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bdubs edition

>Whats New:
Greymane on the 12th maybe

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130

Previously on /hotsg/: >>127041923
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I now abandon every game that I see a Murky in, my team or otherwise.
What a dumb fucking retarded concept for a hero. It's impossible to put in words how much of a chore it is to fight against it, and how much of a deadweight it is when it's in our team.

There is zero satisfaction in killing it, and is the only hero that feels this way. Even if you have one Nova/Zeratul hunt an Abathur, killing it will temporarily remove it from the game guaranteed. Even if you find the Murky's egg, you still have to kill the Murky afterwards. And even then, if you can't do it fast enough it can just replace his egg and the cycle starts all over.

To top it all off, its default design is the epitome of LOLRANDUM humor that so far is only present in some skins.
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Second for
>THE HUNT IS ON
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johanna is best girl, prove me wrong
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>>127150803
stupid haircut
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>>127150284
If Murky makes you upset you should get gud

useless fucking hero provided one of you picked a support, hardcountered by a level 7 talent
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Can someone explain to me how we won this game?
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On day closer to our chieftain
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When's Rock n Roll Racing get its rep?
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>>127150405
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>>127150970
incorrect
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>>127151218
one***** fugggg
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>>127151121
For fucks sake, how did you manage to die 13 times as a Nova?
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>>127151383
My fetish as a nova is to pretend im a decoy nova
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>>127151383
You fucking made me have to check if that was his assists and his assists turned out to actually be LOWER

how the fuck
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>>127151121

>13 deaths
>when you instakill any one of their team at any time
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Reminder Murky counters Tyrande
>>127151115
>hardcountered by a level 7 talent
a talent Tyrande doesn't have access to is the only way to stop the murkster
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>>127151121
viking aba carry, also uninstall for being bad nova.
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>>127151764

>picking Murky anytime before Uther is ruled out as a potential pick by the opponent
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>>127151764
You pick Tyrande as a solo support?
refer to previous statement
>get gud
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lunara buffs when
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>>127119559
Pandass research.
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>>127151115
>useless hero
>just grab the support
Murky isn't useless. Only shitters think this. He's good in some comps
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>>127152823

>tyrande isn't a good solo support

Bronzie detected.
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>>127155446
not against what he mentioned no
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>>127152823
Tyrande is perfectly viable as a solo support (assuming enemy team also only has one) nowadays.
For shrists say people are crying daily for a Tyrande nerf.
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>Half of the pics poster are from undertale
For a moment I thought I was in the wrong general.
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>>127156531

Make that over half.

I wonder just how many people are AFK training with their free stimpack right now.
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>>127156912
not me

so 0%
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>>127151121
Abathur and TLV carried your useless ass hard

Holy shit how the fuck can you be this bad

You're level 40 in a game designed for actual children

I hope you never drive a car or something that's actually important, you'll get someone fucking killed you worthless fucking retard holy shit how do you even get double-digit deaths without actually TRYING to feed
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go to play na HL after a while

get 180ms
get d/cing diablo
get this

ebin
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>>127156531
All of them are commanderITF
not even kidding
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>>127159538
>i can't help it morons think tass is a nova counter
>0-3-7
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>>127155446
>picking tyrande solo vs murky
2150 MMR detected
how close am I, shitter?
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>>127159614

who the fuck is commanderITF lmao
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>>127159114

>says the guy with rage so intense he'll run someone off the road and then shoot them in the face
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>>127159729
Nova is the biggest shitter magnet in the game

I dread having Nova on my team, and as we level up, I audibly groan and visibly shudder as I see Nova continue to take awful talents like Envenom and AA Shells, 50/50 on whether or not he takes the good ult.

Meanwhile he will fail to kill anyone 1v1 because the enemy team ISN'T fucking retarded, and never even touch an objective because "Nova's job is to be 1337 snip3r XD"

He will invariably have the lowest XP contribution by far and maybe 1-2k more hero damage than your team's Uther
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>>127160130
Some guy who is legitimately silver who blogposts here about game strategies and thinks he's a pro when he can't even break 2200 MMR.
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>>127160254
Road rage and MOBA rage are actually very similar

They're both caused by frustration at people who are obviously not paying the fuck attention

The solution to both is to pay fucking attention
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>>127160552

Oh okay.

t. CommanderITF, mining some anon's opinion.
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>The feel when you are really high mmr and care about winning.
>you understand the game and how it flows yet people around you struggle.
>you yell, scream 'bronze', 'shitter' at others and look down on them for being sub 3.2k mmr
>after a bit you regret it and rationalize your behaviour despite it being knowingly wrong
Sorry..
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>Be in low teens for HL
>Play with LoL friend in placement because qm is trash
>Get matched with rank 35+'s
>The bronze is real
>Pointless teamfighting, nova, 0 communication, no discussion pre match of team comps
>Lose a game -150 points
>Win a game +50 points
>End up with a net loss of 2 ranks
>Still better than playing QM
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>>127161567
>Play 20 placement matches
>Lose 3
>Win 4 more games
>Rank 1
>Go back to QM
>Win 12 straight
>All solo queue
git gud my man
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Just had a game where then enemy team had

Chogall
Murky
Aba
Valla

They gave up pretty much on the 5th minute and just danced around us.

When will we be able to filter these no fun allowed heroes like shitathur and memegal?
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>>127151121
>pizza chops with 13 deaths as nova
J U S T
U
S
T
Afk meme slug and lost memes carried desu qt 3.14
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>>127163063
>T-this o-one time I h-had a w-winstreak
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I play this game cause:

1. Less autism management with last-hitting/meta-gaiming/etc.

2. Loads better models/skins (including color varations, a lot of them are skins in themselves)/waifus.

I actually never bought anything with real life cash though. Some of you fuckers have no such self-control, though.
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Holy shit, I've just stomped so hard a team is even cruel
They were
>Cho'Gall
>Stiches
>Tassadar
>Abathur
We were
>Artanis (me)
>Tyrande
>Hammer
>Ilidan
>Lili
I don't blame them for getting destroyed
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>>127166293
How does Artanis handle nowadays?
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>>127166429
Still has a weak early game, but it got upgraded from nonexistent to decent.
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>>127166429
Eh. His ball bearings and flux capacitors needs some work. My disappointment is palpable when it comes to discussing his missed potential.
Although I must admit that he's not going anywhere near useless town he was a great way to go full tank now I'm just like a little more impressed than one of those things are not in my gameplay style.
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>>127166429
He got some buffs, right now is kinda good
They improved the range on his E and some more things
Though he still lacks stuns, and is dependant on his autoattacks, but for me is one the funniest heroes to play
Both ults are pretty good too
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>play quick meme, alt tab after game is over
>10 minutes later, come back and press ready
>game instantly starts
>that was fa-- it's fucking VS AI
>falstad: hi guys, finish quick or farm play time???
>diablo: play long pls
>falstad and diablo try to collect all coins and never turn in
>whenever we kill the bots they also go and feed
did i bonk my head and reach bizzaro universe?
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>>127159538
how can you see draft chat after the game? it's always gone for me
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>>127167606
Maybe, just maybe, they were buying time for getting more exp when finishing the match
But they're fucking idots anyways
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>>127167930
But that's retarded.
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>>127168157
It is
That's why they're fucking supid lol
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>start playing tyrande
>MMR starts going up
ok then
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>127168478
I might drop Li Li for a while to get my fill of night elf ass.
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>>127168157
That's a donkey.
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>>127168580
she'll be here when you stop touching yourself at night.
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>>127168616
Better do it soon. She's probably getting nerfed next patch.
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Why is Tyrande now suddenly OP?
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>>127169435
stun + burst (with vuln) + heals + decent damage
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>>127169435
The scaling changes and vaulnerability. she was always good though.
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>>127169435
Best ranged stun in the game.
Can solo heal.
Vulnerability right out of the gate.
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>>127168640
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>>127169863
>>127169927
>>127169928
So the e-sports teams started playing it and now suddenly everyone is playing it, right?
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>>127169928
Her mediocre healing isn't what makes her strong, the gank meta is what makes her strong with vaulnerability. she is a weak solo healer
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>>127170205
yup
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>>127170205
Yeah
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>>127170205
She's been in every game for 2 months straight pretty much. This is here to stay until she is nerfed.
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>>127170312
No shit.

Her kit allows her to solo heal.
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>>127170312
>>127170313
>>127170509
>>127170574
>>127170205
She just broke Hotsdogs lol
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>>127170732
lol fucking what?
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>>127170732
Just realised half of the things are in spanish and the other half in english
ok
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>>127168478
>play whoever I want
>MMR almost at 4k
tyrande isnt even that good you dumb bronzie
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>>127170312
Dying because you have zero map awareness isn't anything new, kid.
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>>127159729
037, eh?
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>>127171097
ITS 2015+1 TYRANDE IS GREAT
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>>127171097
>Tyrande isnt even that good you dumb bronzie

WEW LADS
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>>127171097
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>>127172091

galaxy quest really is a great movie
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>tfw blizzard will never make zagaras creep tumors not decay
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>>127172535

>mfw blizzard actually makes me play my character

wtf blizz
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>some random faggot picks diablo
>i pick tyrande
>the fucking retard is incapable of using E after he charges
>i tell him to get his shit together
>he finally does it just before a teamfight
>on muradin
>he never does it again during the whole game
>all he does is walk around and try to push their raynor into our team, of course that never happens
>so he just walks back into our team and uses his E on muradin
wow, slowclap
i can't believe we won that game, their jaina was so fucking retarded it made up for everything
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>Finally got Diablo 2 working.

Cinematics won't play because of windowed mode but I'll just watch them on youtube or something.
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i need dem sweet azmodan's builds, no matter how meme they are i'm a fag that only plays QM, thanks
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>>127173271
full lazer build dont look back
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>tfw my pic in in the OP
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>/vg/ member has his friends in the party
>he drops, they stay
>they are fucking awful
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>>127173271
>taste for blood, no exceptions, learn to last hit with it you shitter
>gluttony is not relevant anymore unless both teams have no healer and the enemy team has thrall / illidan, army of hell is always good
>infernal globe, the rest aren't worth it
>black pool
>march of sin, relentless if they have so much cc you feel that you will never be able to channel your E
>battleborn vs ranged comps, imposing presence vs AA heavy champs, blood for blood vs scary double tank comps
>fifth circle vs melee comps if you're on a ranged team, forced recruitment if the enemy team sucks at dealing with your push (do not pick this if you are losing so badly that your lanes are pushed all the time), bolt otherwise
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>>127173271
>That Azmodan that will stay in one lane the entire game bottom
>That Azmodan that will die over and over again ignoring danger pings
>That Azmodan that will go back to exactly where he was before after ressing
>That Azmodan that won't help in teamfights
>That Azmodan that does his job
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>>127173271
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=166970
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>play qm to try a new hero after playing nothing but HL for weeks

how do you people handle all these meme comps? both sides consistently have the dumbest heroes possible and games are just a clusterfuck
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>>127174293
>Enemy Azmodan tries this
>Have one person kill him every time while rest of the team wins 4v4 or force a 4v5 after he's dead
>That guy who thinks split pushing works in the year 2016
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>>127174506
Better than HL
>Enemy team firstpicks Tyrande
>You now are on the fast track for a loss
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>>127174650
>Enemy first picks Tyrande
>You pick Kael Uther
>Win
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>>127174746
>Uther goes hammer build
>Kael can't D+W correctly
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>>127174746
>Uther has a win rate of like 40%.
>Tyrande has a win rate approaching 60%.

Yeah that happens a lot.
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>>127174650
Just get kael, raynor or muradin and you will be fine
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>>127174948
>Tyrande goes starfall build
>Tyrande can't land stun + forget her trait exists

>>127175036
/hotsg/ has become so bronze they honestly think Uther is bad
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>still no new starcraft heroes
Why does blizzard hate that franchise so much?
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>>127175130
Uther isn't bad, but Tyrande is fucking amazing. An Uther on the other team doesn't mean shit especially because you picked him so early letting them get Muradin.
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>>127175159
Salty over their fuck up with losing the Korean audience.

Might as well go with their tried and true money makers, wow drones...

and wasn't no-eye brows and shit AA released recently?
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>>127175394
how did they lose the korean audience? I thought starcraft was like an official sport over there
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>playing cho'gall with a friend
>become a god

How can people say he's bad? Godlike hero for sure
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>enemy diablo charges squishy
>enemy tyrande stuns behind him
joke's on her, i used divine shield
i am enjoying this so much, gets me everytime
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I might be retarded but I can't think of a use of march of the black king.

When is it good? I've found that being able to trap people in a wall is invuable even if they can dive out of it because you can wait out their dives and then use it.

To me it seems like black king march is just an "oh shit" button you use when your positioning is so shit you find yourself in the middle of the enemy team
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>>127176390
>Divine Shield cooldown like 90 seconds.
>There cooldowns like 10 seconds.

I would take that trade every day.
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>>127176150
Try playing him in something other than training
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>>127176434
>zagara maw
>march into it
otherwise, it generally helps you survive when teamfighting in close quarters, it can be really good on infernal shrines or towers of shit, especially if the enemy team is rather melee heavy

but honestly, it's not that great until you get the level 20 upgrade, at which point you become a god
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>>127176434
its decent damage for wombos and it effectively acts like hardened shield; unless you're getting creamed by literally everything they have, you wont die

entomb is almost always better though, i'd only take march if there isnt a single escapeless squishy to trap

or if they have kael. never take entomb into a kael.
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>>127176562
1v1 me noob::^)
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>>127175650
This is me talking out of my ass more then anything, but could've sworn with the advent of SC2, they were trying ton control freak and micromanage everything, including tournaments and business ventures. Korea's response was FUCK YOU.

Also may have been SC2's gameplay. I don't know really.
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>>127176557
who cares? the point is winning the teamfight
>being retarded enough to be caught by diablo before a fight
you might want to stop being bronze
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>>127176434
If enemy has Kael you never take Entomb. Fucking never because everyone clumps up trying to kill them an Chain Bomb destroys your entire team.

Also if your team needs more damage or the majority of their team has ways of escaping out of Entomb.
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>Two weeks of radio silence from Blizzard

make it end
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Best hero combo in the game?

Tyrande+Butcher gets my vote
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>>127176791
Yeap no one gets caught ever. Not a single person. That's why Tyrande isn't in every single fucking game.
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>>127177072
Tyrande and Diablo is really good.
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>>127177072
Tyrande+Anyone not Butcher that has a stun gets my vote.
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>>127177072
illidan + abathur

:3
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>>127176884
Happy Feast of Winter Veil
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>it's a seasoned marksman illidan episode
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>>127177072
Abathur Kharazim is always fun.
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>>127177378
Any build with Illidan is bad right now cause Illidan is a bad hero.
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>Play TLV
>Tell them to roam as four
>Everytime, someone is too slow to mount, sync up, and roam properly and they go in one by one and get rekt
>Everytime they lose a 4v4 even with tyrande/CC warrior
fuck
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>>127176150
I just went with cho'gall with a pal for shit n giggles, i got probably one of the three (counting myself) anub'arak players in EU and got webbed everytime, outfucking played no chance whatsoever
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>>127177765
>Winning with Vikings on Tomb of the Spider.

Witchcraft.
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>>127177765
best master skin in the game tbqh
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>>127178215
I like how it's just the outfits from the second game. It's a nice touch.
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Why do Tass/Malf/Uther have such low win rates? Those characters are pretty damn good.
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>>127178513
They're force multipliers, and can't really "carry" on their own. It's the supports conundrum.
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>>127178513
Because Tyrande. Picked in almost every game. Has a win rate of like 60%. Guess who's on the losing side in most games?
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How does the "AFK in training" thing work?
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>>127178695
afk in training mode

thats literally it
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>>127178695
You go into training. Start it up. Alt tab out and leave. Come back when you think the game is over and start another one.
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>>127178513
Not alot of people know how to DS. Also, not alot of people know what to do when they're DS'd. People end up running away instead of going ham.
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>>127178765
It doesn't kick you out for inactivity?
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>>127178852
nope

not in training

in vs ai it will
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>>127178852
yup it sure does thats why eveyrone does it just to piss away time
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>>127178852
Not in training. You don't get gold and you don't complete quests you just get XP.
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>>127178908
>>127178963
Thanks. Good to know.

>>127178954
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fun heroes? i already have strong heroes like KT and Tyrande lvl15+
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>>127178513
a handful of characters have a winrate far above almost everyone else
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>>127179220
Artanis, Sonya, Chen and Lunara.
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Soon my waifu and I will be united once more...
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>>127179220
rexxar
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>>127179220
Gazlowe, Tass, Brightwing
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>>127179340
Wonder what her skin will be. Here's hoping Flash.
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>>127179340
she is so wacky!
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>>127179340
ur waifu a shit
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>>127179340
I hope she has a Widowmaker color variant.
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>>127179530
Probably the protoTracer skin like Overwatch is getting.
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>>127179220
chen, memeslug, tyrael, illidan, rexxar
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>>127179854
That's boring. Go with Flash.
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>>127176884
they'll probably be back in office by Monday. Who doesn't deserve 3 weeks off for Christmas and new years
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>>127179340
I wonder what her secondary Ult will be.
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>>127180083
>expecting Blizzard to put in any cool effort
Tracer is going to be Zeratul2: Ranged Edtion.
She'll probably suck on release too.
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>>127180239
>She'll probably suck on release too.
Another super squishy shit character that dies to raynor
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>>127180239
shes gonna be lucian from league
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>>127180239
>suck on release
Blizzard wants that cash.
They'll make her seem powerful at first, rack in some more Overwatch preorders, and then tweak some numbers so people quit bitchin.
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>playing falstad when there's an abathur on the enemy team
>he tries this shit where he goes to our base in order to spawn ticks then fuck off
I wonder if these people think at all before they do something. It cost them the game because I killed abathur when he tried it, so we got the DK and won the game with it.
They were winning up to that point and their abathur singlehandedly threw the game by making one of those cooool plays he no doubt found in "top 10 abathur tricks"
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>>127181316
>Artanis
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>try out nazeebo since he's f2p
>pick up death ritual
>just lane normally
>4k hp 1k mana by level 20
holy shit how is that balanced?
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>>127181393
The hero that had a gamebreaking exploit while he was pre-order only? What about him, friend?
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>>127181604
He was still largely considered garbage because he was god awful until 16. Everyone thought that.
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>>127181601
because Nazeebo does fuck all damage and has basically been a worse Stitches with better ults since Cho'gall
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>>127181601
he has no escapes, and even if he traps someone in his only CC, every character in the game get out by just attacking it

he's good in quick match though because everyone's retarded
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>>127181657
>he was still largely considered garbage
Did you play while that exploit was in? He could singlehandedly instafrag any low HP hero because his zealot charge alone did close to 3k damage.
Yes, it only happened after 16, but every fucking game with an artanis in it was immediately lost the second you let them get 16. And that's like, most games.
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>>127181601
Because outside of his ults he's largely nonexistent now.
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>>127181601
he used to be pretty OP but scaling patch fucked him, all he does is scattered poke damage
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>>127181863
Yes I did. I saw him lose game after game in HL because he was fucking garbage. At lvl 16 most games were already decided then because this is before the scaling changes hit and if you had Artanis the game was 4v5 until then.

There's a reason why no one used him after the first day.
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>>127181863
What was the exploit?
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>>127181316
lili, pls, they have proven that they just suck at making this game
hero strength is random at best
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>>127181907
>>127181601
Outside of his ults he's terrible now. He used to be able to 1v1 anyone because his corpse spiders did so much fucking damage, together with a zombie wall and a broadside of frogs there was absolutely nothing that could survive his damage focused on them.

Now he's just kinda annoying because rather high HP and leaping spiders dont let you mount
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ORD1 is fucking dogshit- cost me 2 games already due to high ping and I live on the fucking east coast
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>>127182181
you could make 3 attacks go off at once
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>>127182138
His Charge would reset if you hit it at the right time.

So you'd AA, Charge and it would reset so you'd hit them 8 times instead of the normal 4. It really only worked on buildings with any type of accuracy because his aa range was so shit it you had to be standing on there toes to make use of it.
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>>127182392
mean for >>127182138
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>>127181367
Thats what helps make fastlad so good
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>>127182118
This honestly sounds like you're bronze. At 3.6k MMR, every game I played with Artanis they kept their shit together and played it safe until they hit 16 at which point it was a free win. Same thing if Artanis was on our team. It was fucking ridiculous.

>>127182412
You joking? it was a simple timing thing. Aslong as you got into melee range of a target you were guaranteed to hit it. Everyone did it at all times.
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>pick tyrande
>faggot picks stitches because "we are the best combo in the game"
>he misses his hooks
>i waste my stun every time he attempts a short range hook
>i stop trying with the faggot and land stuns by myself
>he complains about it
wow, eat shit
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>>127182181
>they have proven that they just suck at making this game

Blizzard just low balls heroes for some reason, they've yet to release a hero that wasn't two or three damage/health tweaks away from being good.

Medic is good now. Artanis is decent bordering on good. Rexxar is ok. Cho'gall would be good if he wasn't completely hard fucked by the meta right now.
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>>127182764
>unironically picking stitches
eugh
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>>127183012
You ever try playing stitches on the map with the punishers?
You need to get cooldown reduction on devour and the little slimefriend spawn on it. When there's a shrine you eat all the little guys and make an army of stitchlings. It's pretty hilarious and they're actually really good if the enemy team can't deal with them quickly i.e. if they don't have kael
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>>127182803
Lunara needs more than a health tweak to be good. Her poison needs to do either more damage or last longer as well.
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>>127183297
sounds fun, but infernal shrines is my only excuse to play leoric these days.
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>>127182803
>they've yet to release a hero that wasn't two or three damage/health tweaks away from being good.

Leoric, Johanna, thrall, kael'thas, sylvanas

maybe jaina and monk released in an ok state
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>>127183624
"i'm here to feed" exists for a reason

to be fair, both monk and jaina suffered from idiot player syndrome on launch, not necessarily the hero's problem
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Wonder if we'll be able to preorder overwatch on amazon and cancel for tracer

or will the badgoy loophole be closed
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It would be funny if blizz attempted to buff lunara by making damage-over-time more powerful, but instead just make everyone pick the other assassins and use envenom
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>>127183462
People seem to not understand that Lunara doesn't do Nazeebo damage, she can shit out serious burst with Wild Vigor + Invigorating Spores.

Right now Lunara just needs to have her melee attack animation bug, a buff to her health so she doesn't spend the first 10 minutes of the match getting reamed by Raynor and Nova, and at most a revision of her level 4 talents.
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>>127183624
Every single one of those heroes was good at launch though?

Monk has also always been good though it took people a while to figure him out.
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>>127184109
What? How would buffing Lunaras dot affect envenom in any way?
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>>127184415
he thinks all dot effects are the same thing
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>>127184215
>revision
>re-vision
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>>127184215
She does need a fix there, but she can at the very least use an attack range buff. A medium between Raynor and Valla would be fine for her.

She doesn't have a getaway tool like Valla or the second health bar Raynor does so just being able to attack from a little further away would help a lot.
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>>127184349
that was the point. I was replying to the person who said all heroes sucked on release.
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>>127184637
Every hero since Monk have sucked at release. So it's pretty safe to say that they are just scared of releasing another Leoric and are crippling the heroes they release in the process.
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Is seasoned marksman useless now?
it feels like it doesn't do anything helpful regardless of the character
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>>127184215
>melee attack animation bug
Not that I don't think it shouldn't be fixed for obvious reasons, but it's hilarious to see how people think being able to cancel your attack before it happens is a terrible bug. It's standard in every single other game of the genre
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>be tyrande
>roaming with diablo
>he jumps in on their morales, we kill it
>suddenly their whole team is upon us
>holy shit we fucked up bro, we're dead
>they all focus diablo
>i heal him up while running away
>he dies, i escape
>5s respawn time
wew lads, thanks for the free win
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>>127184775
It's terrible on illidan, and it always was

other than that it's pretty gud. Most heroes that can get it get really good value out of it. Falstad attacks really fast already and together with secret weapon you can shit out LOTS of burst, thrall gets maxed attack speed with windfury, artanis attacks pretty fast and triple strike gets triple value out of it, and raynor should be obvious.
For tyrande it's alright if you build for it, but not great.
I don't think there's any other heroes that can get it.
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>enemy team has tyrande, kael and muradin
>oh shit we are fucked
>enemy team picks lunara
>we win
nice
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>>127185000
>Trips
I just remembered that in a previous thread some anon was told that it's not useful now even with thrall.
And I was wondering since it's the one I used to pick

InB4 you should make a CL build
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>>127184757
I think it's safe to say they aren't good at making this game
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>>127185739
These are the people that made Starcraft. Of course they aren't.
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>>127185701
CL build is alright in some situation. It has pretty good poke, but I feel like thrall is much much stronger if you go full windfury with windfury CD reduction. The staying power you have in teamfights is insane with this. Every 8 seconds you get a full heal and also do hilariously huge damage.

seasoned marksman really amplifies that damage so I usually get it.
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>>127184956
>Play Diablo
>Fight goes sour
>I stay behind so team can escape since I'll just rez in 5 seconds
>Team commits suicide trying to save me

I appreciate the effort but please stop.
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>slap zagara's ass
>it explodes
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>>127182305
east coast, I've been getting absurd shit like this
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>>127185701
With the WF build you're trading a weaker early game for a stronger late game. Less burst damage for more sustained damage.
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>>127186692
>slap li li's ass
>i explode
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>>127186692
>you will never be unbirthed by zagara
>you will never sleep comfortably amongst inactive banelings
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>>127182305
It's so fucking garbage dude. I hate queueing up with my east coast friends because of it.
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What kind of kinky bondage do you think you could get into with abathur?
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>>127182305
Yep, ORD1 fucks me over because I'm on the east coast as well. I just selected US8, even though I get like 100+ ping, it's still better than the 2k ping on ord1
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>2 people on my team were shit and have been carried hard
>they're a premade ofc
>check hotslogs, they have the lowest MMR
this keeps happening. i don't see why people that hotslogs is shit for MMR calculations and "so very off from blizzard's MMR". You can always see the top people on hotslogs also in blizzshit's leaderboards.

I think niggers are afraid there's a way to prove that they are bronze and they try to discredit the source.
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>>127182305
Blizzard had to shut down the east coast servers because they were spending millions on this
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>>127187503
hotdogs has plenty of problems, but most of the people who bitch about it, dont like seeing actual data that shows that they, or their builds, arent good
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>>127187812
Hotslogs is fine for what it does, pretty much all high level games are uploaded anyway. Bronze games not getting uploaded don't mean much.
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>>127176434
>Good finisher in the middle of a teamfight.
>Good anti-cluster
>Good answer to a successful bait
>Good way to reach the backlines
>Good way to disorient or relieve pressure
>Godly heal at lv20
>Generally a game swinging move if it lands correctly
>Good smorcing tool

>>127176714
I don't think there's a single time I'd pick entomb over march when I'm try-harding.
Yeah entomb CAN be useful in some match-ups, but it's WAY less versatile.
I'm almost tempted to call it trash w/o voice comms.
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>be first pick
>lock in tyrande
>next picks: nova, chogall, tyrael
>enemy team has kael, raynor, anub, morales and diablo
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>someone on the enemy team queuedodged
I AM THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE
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>>127186692
I think zagara works like this
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>>127188297
>tfw you will never be attached to Zagara while her buttclaws hold you in place, draining you of semen and essence while you're helplessly locked in and joined with her while she goes about doing her daily routine and tending to her baneling babies
why even live?
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>>127188297
how zagara have 2 vagina
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>>127186306
Just press v, THEN blame them for fucking up.

I'd definitely back if a tank pressed retreat, I've been in those shoes many a time so I wouldn't even look twice before gtfo.
Too often though, when I play as anything NOT a tank, I get one who either over-extends, doesn't peal and/or doesn't communicate.

Really fucking sucks.
Makes me want to just take their keyboard and play for them.
Same reason why I can't play support.

But I don't have that issue with abathur.
Why is that?
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>>127189002
Oh my god. Re-reading what I typed.
The disgusting errors ruin the flow, but whatever.
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>>127188984
thanks abathur
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>>127188984
Zagara have entrance and exit seperate for efficient entry and departure
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Playing Kael I noticed lunara dies in one of my stuns. Her hit box seems pretty large too for such a fragile character, so it's almost impossible to miss the stun. What is the point of that character?
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So, Chen isn't actually BAD any more right?

Or is he still trash because against a competent group, he'd be stunned out of drinking all the fucking time?
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>mfw even blizzard youtubers are calling attention to state of matchmaking
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>>127189769
He's not great in the current meta but the scaling changes did help him.
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>>127189769
theres going to be a tye randy in every match
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>be tyrande
>diablo on my team refuses to use his E after the charge
what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
>Qs target
>W
>it walks away
great fucking job bro
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tfw no woolly bully abathur skin that makes him look like a fuzzy caterpillar
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>>127189886
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>playing johanna
>find enemy team taking the boss on the sand map with the 3 laser towers
>watching them in a bush with sonya
>other teammates dead/somewhere else
>just as they kill the boss, run in with sonya
>end up killing all 5 of them, including murky twice
>win the game

I have no idea how it worked out so well but it did
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>>127190398
kek
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>>127190398
the match making can be fucked, but they have repeatedly said they dont want to force a meta

2 dps 2 healers and specialist vs
1 dps 2 healers 2 tanks
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>>127190398
5man premade vs 5 randoms should never happen
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>>127190398
To be fair I don't blame him. I just played a Hero Leauge game where the enemy all picked squishy ranged assassins with no initiate whilst our team was balanced and had a fuck load of initiates and disables.

To say it was a stomping is an understatement.
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>>127190747
>Forcing a meta of balanced teams in a game revolving around teamfighting over objectives
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>>127189886
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>>127190906
players just wouldn't understand matchmaking without forced losses
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>constantly fighting 5 stacks
>every single one has Diablo/Jo/Tyrael, Stitches, Raynor, Tyrande and Uther/Tassadar/Kael
>my team is always 3-5 randoms

I guess it's only HL for an attempt a a decent team. QM is disgusting 90% of the time.
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>>127190747
>>127190861
>>127190398
>Blizzard reveal Arena
>It's a crazy new mode where anything can happen
>1 nova? 5 novas? completely unbalanced teams? nothing but assassins? nothing but supports?

Oh wait it's quick match.

arena cancelled
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>>127190906
and if he picked tye randy instead of brightwing, the match making would have been fine?
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>>127191013
Yeah I only play HL now, at least there's some discussion about team comps and counterpicks most of the time.

Even if I lose I'm having more fun trying to win than wasting my time with qm shitters.
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>>127191096
>arena costs 100 gold to enter
>works like hearthstone, 3 losses and you are out
>get 100 gold back after 5 wins
>get 200 gold for 10 wins
>small chance of getting a random skin at 12 wins
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A qt from work who plays WoW who has a bf of 6 years she met as her old raid leader from Vanilla just gave me $20 for my 25th and told me to buy some skins and slut up my party...

I let her choose the skins and she picked:
>Cyb'Anub'Arak
>Tempest Regalia Jaina
>Ranger General Sylvannus
>Desert Queen Zagara
She wanted Sgt. Doomhammer and Succubus Kerrigan but I already owned those.
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>>127191339
>>127190398
>>127189886
>yfw he started and paid for a heroes team back in alpha/beta
>yfw he's posted videos about losing 10's of thousands of $ on it
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>>127191339
>Bronze shitter, who owns a bronze shitter team
>its match makers fault that I keep losing
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>>127160425
>people are bad at low mmr
The things you described don't occur very often in masters.

Git gud.
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>>127191881
>Bronze
>Not #1 ranked

https://twitter.com/stellarlotusftw?lang=en
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>>127189886
In fairness he is picking brightwing, that's almost as bad as picking lunara.
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>>127191881
I like Jesse, he normally comes off as a decent guy, but watching him play this game is infuriating. Like all shitters, he thinks he is good and talks shit about the rest of team nonstop, except the rare occasions where he is winning.

Its the worst when plays with the chat room, or people like sinvicta.

>>127192068
Jesse pls
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>>127192319
yeah, jesse is actually cool, but i refuse to watch anything he does with heroes. it never ends well.
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>>127179340
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>>127192490
see you in three days, senpai
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>>127181367
>bragging about beating abathur on dragon shire
Like taking candy from a candy hating baby
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>>127192312
>implying teleporting on top of an ally fleeing hero at the last second shielding them from death and giving a speed buff to both get away safely isn't one of the most fun things you can do in this game
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>>127179340
>not waifuing best girl

Must be horrible being you, you must also like Hawaiian Pizzas.
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>>127192490
>tfw you recognize Incase on sight from the faces
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>>127192619
Why three days?
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>>127191745
I see your tech girls and I raise you more.
https://mega.nz/#!j1kgHQTR!-Z_bmHloegGuYw1x-UQ4XxLFOSuQJK66xJxywwWU-x4
>>127192490
l-lewd
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>>127192439
>>127192319
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>>127192668
Yeah I love playing brightwing. It's so satisfying to Emerald Wind a melee comp and watch them get killed as they get pushed back.
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>>127189886
Nothing's wrong with that by QM standards.
Besides the part where THEY TAKE A PICTURE WITH THEIR FUCKING PHONE.

>>127191745
What?
I bet you're a girl or a faggot (not the good type).
Only they would say something as lackluster and fruitless as that.

I read it looking to learn something or experience someone learning a concept for the first time. No.
Re-read it several times, for a punchline, nothing.

WHY
H
Y

It's like an uber-shitpost.
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>>127192818
they should have listened to the 1700mmr shot caller
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>>127192987
>Besides the part where THEY TAKE A PICTURE WITH THEIR FUCKING PHONE.
Probably only uses twitter on his phone or something
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mmr reset when?
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No other MOBA feels as reliant on your team mates not being shit as this game does
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>>127193484
I've become convinced that the entire MOBA genre is just a way to screen for mental disabilities
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>>127193484
No other MOBA feels as salty that your team mates are shit as this game does
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>>127194007
You just figured this out?
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>>127193484
That's what I think is holding back this game the most.
I bet it's what makes MM suck as well.

>>127194036
Yeah, I bet losses would feel less significant if you could play to your maximum capacity in every game.
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The best part about HotS is that you have to hope that you don't have 1 retard on your team when in reality, every moba has 3 decent people and 7 retards in every game unless you stack.
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>>127193484
It's like that on purpose so everyone can blame everyone else for losing
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>another 5 stack
>same fucking team

I'm done, cya. Fix this shit and I'll come back.
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>>127194471
The ol' 80-20 rule strikes again
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Has anyone good ever tried climbing the MMR ladder on QM after intentionally dropping it to three digits?
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>>127194007
I don't get it.

The people with mental disabilities are the bronze,
the ones who deny being shit
or the ones who have a complete meltdown for no reason.

>implying they aren't all the same
Oh I get it.
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>>127194471
the biggest problem is that most of the worst players not only don't know they are bad, but think they are great
see also Jesse Cox >>127191881
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>divine storm
>ever
uhhh
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>>127195176
Maybe a year ago, that's ever.
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>>127194824
MOBAs are "Dunning-Kruger: the Genre"
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>>127195176
>taking Divine Bronze
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anyone order a one man mmr tanking crew?
>>
Even in games like hearthstone, there are lots of shit players who think they are good, and blame losses on the ladder, on aggro decks, on p2w, etc. But I think most of that games' shitters, know that they are average, at best.

But here, you have 9 other people in every game that you get to blame, and if thats not enough, then just blame the match making. It is always someone elses fault when they lose and every win, they carried. Besides that, to even know you are shitter you have to visit a 3rd party website, and since you never uploaded any games, that site doesnt know what it is talking about.
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>>127177072

Medic + Butcher is just unfair to go against, especially if the team also has a second healer or heavy peels for Morales.
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remove undertalefags
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>tfw on a loss streak because every game, 1 person leaves or refuses to communicate

Such a great morning and afternoon, now it's the most painful night of my life.
>>
>ahead the whole game
>someone makes one mistake
>lose

love this game
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I'm convinced Sylvanus is one of the most overpowered heroes in the game right now .
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>go medic
>team has no damage
>go damage
>team has no medic

Why do I still try?
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>>127198926
More like one team is better at capitalizing on an advantage.

>Playing scrub league
>+20mins
>Behind all game because we have a bot jaina
>Still managed to 3/4 angels
>Gather up for a push bot, lili whining about some panda shit
>Get a penta kill thanks to hinterland blast
>Push through keep to core.
>Only Zigzag up for enemy rest got 30s
>Suddenly half the team starts hearthing to "defend against mercs on one of our keeps:"
>Just tell them to right click the core
>We win
>Say you're welcome

Why are people scared to win?
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>>127197995
It'll pass. I had a game recently where we wiped their team, 3 people went to do boss then realized they could do core. We lost with their core at 4%.
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>>127199160

>medic, lili, uther, azmodan, murky
>vs.
>raynor, kaelthas, malfurian, illidan, sonya

working as intended familia
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>>127199308
>Abathur, Malf, Medic, Nova, Sylvanas.

You don't know pain.
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>>127199250

Because the WoWfags who inhabit this shit game think they have to clear trash before winning the game. Don't know how many games have been thrown from simply not clicking the core when we outnumbered them, they dance around the enemy base until they respawn, and then get picked off and we lose.

Bronze lyf.
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>>127150803
All defense no damage.
Just play Sonya and stop being a pleb.
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Oh boy, I sure am glad it takes blizzard half a fucking month to post the top 200, otherwise I might get to know in a timely manner whether I made it or not!
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>Wasting money on costumes instead of buying something other than rice and noodles
>The Elwynn Forest music made me resub to WoW and buy the last 3 expansions for the first time in 5 years but I haven't even logged in all week
Something's wrong with me.
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I never thought I'd actually get a kill with the SEF split.
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>>127204324
but anon, i like cup noodles

they also take about 3 minutes to full cook, which is about the same amount of time it takes for a queue to pop
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>>127204449
From the same game, this was kinda funny, too. Remeber to always use split before triple attack when chasing, kiddos.
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I have a great idea for a new hero. He is 3 times stronger than normal hero, but can be only summoned as an ult by some other hero and can't play otherwise and has maximum of 2 minutes lifespan
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>>127204713
sounds bad
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>>127204920
you sound bronze
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>>127191881
at least i will never play with him in qm because my MMR is sky high
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>>127204713
>>127204920
>>127204990
It does sound bad, unless maaybe the hero can do stuff from the side lines while he's not able to be in play. But that overlaps with Aba kinda.
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>>127204553
This Makes me want to fuck right off to /ck/ and never come back.
I just slap a half slice of kraft cheese on that chicken or beef flavor, or maybe 2 slices with like 2 packs of ramen if I haven't eaten all day.
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holy shit gazzlow is awesome, i speecd him into siege busting and took down all enemy bells by myself, they had nothing to fire from basically
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>>127204449
>>127204561
doing gods work
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>tfw can't play as tyrande any more because I'm doing the nofap
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>>127206163
ahh, what a rank to be in when the enemy team ignores you split pushing as a hero with no escape on the smallest map in the game
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>>127206314
this basically
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>>127166202
>Some of you fuckers have no such self-control, though.
neet detected
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>>127206283
Maybe the message was too mixed

Give me the elf butt
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>>127206283
>can't pick a character because you might jerk off
you have some serious self control issues as well as some poor taste in what you're jerking off to. It's just just videogames negro
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>be me
>be hammer
>have rehgar on team
>rehgar does half the healing of enemy morales for the entire game
>literally not one single ancestral healing
>multiple fights without even 1 chain heal
>rehgar starts criticizing me
>point out that he sucks and isnt healing
>stops in the middle of fights to talk shit
>one time blocked and killed an ally to talk shit
>stops playing 5 min before game ends and blames it on me

God I fucking hate when children have vacation from school
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>>127208210
>be hammer
stopped reading there, everything was your fault
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>>127208479
my winrate with hammer is like 80%
get rekt
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got an idea. i will create smurf account and go play as gall to my normal account co, then dc in the game as gall and enjoy having 100% accurate computer aimed skillshots from gall bot
feels good
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I herd you guys liked seeing streamers bitch about match making
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>>127179220
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>>127209089
If your team has more then one of: bw, nova, abathur, gazlowe, zeratul, chogall, lunara, murky, rexxar, tychus, sylvanas
then bitch about it on twitter
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>>127208754
because rest of the team carries your pathetic shit
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>>127209329
Just got out of this game, I got carried so hard
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>>127209543
>so embarrassed and scared he has to censor names
lol, haven't even bothered looking and your shit scores
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>>127209612
Why don't you post your name, anon?
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>>127209568
Link the guide.

I feel like a laff.
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>>127210038
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/guide/support-tyrande-101-healing-guide-8362
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>>127210430
>heroesfire
not once
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>>127210430
> Can solo if done right
thx for this advice which applies to ever hero vs every hero
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>>127210430
>heroesfire
>seasoned marksman
>tyrande not good on bhb
>tyrande not good against cho'gall
>he's not even rank 1
>suggesting huntress fury
>suggesting trueshot in every matchup
>suggesting mending mark
>not suggesting shooting star if you have no solid ranged aa and aren't going owl build
>suggesting celestial wrath (>>>implying you'd take starfall in the first place)
>suggesting nexus frenzy

Thanks anon.
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>>127209089
>>127209296
I dunno what he's whining about, these are perfectly fine team comps
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How do i build abathur as meele or range assassins? I want to do the hat things but i also want to engage directly in a fight
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>>127211167
Start to lift. His arms are scrawny as fuck
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>Nova is the most popular hero in QM, being in 50% of games

Honestly I'm not surprised.
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>>127211167
make sure you take the talent where you deal 150% bonus damage on every 3rd hit
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>>127211595
I think she went up when lunara came out, won't be suprised if we get a deerhunter skin for her
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>>127211595
woa..............
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is Tassadar viable alongside Tyrande or a different support?
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>>127211846
Yes, very.
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>>127211660
I really don't see lunara in like any games anymore
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>>127212024
I did yesterday, her name was CaptainDisaster
She died like 15 times, we had no healer and nova was on the enemy team, she went for the damage ult instead of the jump so she killed her only "escape"
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how long would it take to smurf the vulture?
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>>127198956
>sylvanus
freudian slip?
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>>127212808
~20 afk training matches x4 accounts
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oops I bought kerrigan
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After a very long time i have 10k smekels again and i am picking a hero to buy. I want some fun hero, i see that bitch which can turn buildings black in literally every game, is she really so good?
Anyway my biggest interest right now is in abathur because you with his xerox ult you get to play as many different heroes during the match
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is it true you can't place higher than rank 5?
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>Someone instalocks Lunara in hero league
Fuck, Should i dodge?
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>>127214408
yes, use the abathur exploit
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She can chase like no other and also has a mechanic that allows her to peel off guilt free if she doesn't want to chase.

Keyword peel, not escape. That's whole nother issue.
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>>127213879
If you like Valla you will like her, she plays similarly but better at kiting, in team fights silence and make vulnerable everyone.

Abathur is more fun, if you just want to win more go Sylv.
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>>127215385
If you go abathur you can be sylvanas at any time after level 10
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what should i use to record something for a webm?
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>>127215508
google
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>>127215508
- camstudio
- shadow play if you have a suitable geforce video card
- the built in solution from microsoft if you have win 10
etc.
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This is going to suck, isn't it?
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>Losing to 5 man premades
I seriously hope you never do this
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>trap lunara in zombie wall
>release the plague of egipt.jpg
>murky octo grabs her + fish bomb
>kael tornado her anyways and double bomb her shit
>lunara just 360 walks away
>use ravenous spirit out of desperation can't even catch her
>murky dies poisoned I barely survive
shieeeet
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>>127215853
there's always hope, perhaps someone on the other team has stroke or something
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>>127215918
if blizzard keeps releasing such blatantly overpowered heroes this game will die by 2017
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>>127215918
>implying one kael double bomb wouldnt melt her face
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>>127214279
Yes.
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can you get kicked for afk in player ai matches?
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>>127216340
yes
not in training mode though
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>>127215918
i see not even the bbckekman can stop the force of nature
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>>127216405
But if you play with ai temmates and tab out, doesn┬Ęt the game pause?
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>>127216457
no. It pauses in training mode if you are on talent selection, maybe that's what you are experiencing? I levelled 4 smurfs for the mount afking in training mode and it doesn't pause as long as you don't click on the talent selection. Also leveled several heroes to 5 on my main account using the same method.
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>lose game
>-30 mmr
>win game
>+10 mmr
hotslogs is a joke
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>>127216575
how long does one afk match takes? which difficulty do you use?
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>>127217182
Stop playing with people with lower MMR
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>>127217182
>lose a game with shitty enemies (ie you should have won)
>lose a lot of mmr
>win a game with shitty enemies (ie should have been piss easy)
>don't gain a lot of mmr

It's just math, anon.
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>>127217357
You can't choose difficulty in training mode. Difficulty is only for vs AI mode and as I said you'll be kicked for afk there even if you play with bots against bots.
A training match takes about 15-25 minutes and your 4 ai teammates always win.
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Arise nydus
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>>127215918
>>127216126
Ok that was different from what I remember I mixed something that happened later, discount snipe and orbital cannon though :^)
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>>127217368
>>127217382
I can't help who Blizzards shitty matchmaking system puts me with/against
At this point I have to maintain a 75% win ratio to not tank my MMR
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>>127217657
Join /vg/ and play with people of similar MMR then
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>>127217579
How... how can a team of 4 people be so incompetent? You seriously couldn't handle a character with 2k hp with 4 people?
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>>127217657
Just look at this. Ridiculous
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>>127217579
Spell shield in action against bronzies
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>>127217579
greater spell shield is just so broken guys we have to fix it and stop abathur from putting a shield on her
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>>127217579
NERF NERF NERRRRRFFFFFFF SHES SO BROKEN AND POWERFUL FUCK FUCKING GOD DAMN IT
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>>127217789
the subtle part is how missed the zombies because of her speedhack lel
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>>127217860
>3.3k upset that he cant inflate his MMR anymore in a game mode he isnt forced to play
For a second I almost sided with you
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>>127217579
Things would have been different if kael had thrown out one of his 2 very fucking low cd ults

Never be confident in your kills always be wasteful so that you avoid embarrassing moments like this
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>>127217657
>>127217860
If you lose a game you should have won, hotslogs thinks maybe you shouldn't be at that mmr anymore.

If you had been bitching about qm comp or something, MAYBE you'd have had a point, but if you belong at your mmr, the mmr of the players you get matched with is irrelevant in the long run. If you get drooling retards on your team every time, then you won't be losing many points. The only reason you lose a lot of points is if the enemy team is on average more retarded than your team. Judging by the swing of your mmr, you don't have very many games uploaded to slogs yet. This gives me the feeling that your mmr is inflated due to a large winning streak at the beginning of your uploads, and you may be coming down off that now. If you belong at that mmr you'll stay there over time. As I said, it's just math.
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On a list which supports from best to worst do you think puts out the most heals?
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>>127218128
>Tyrande
>power gap
>Uther
>mega power gap
>Everyone else
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>>127218128
Overall best support: tyrande
Best support for just healing: probably monk
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>>127217579
nova didn't use pinning shot, which was the best thing to do here even if she was about to die

kael wasted his stun on an already stunned hero

you fucking bodyblocked murky from mounting and sliming her

kael used his D on Q instead of W

basically everyone fucked up except murky
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>>127218128
i know tyrande and uther are gods but the man that punches people so hard so others get healed by it it's pretty fun desu
i myself belive in the rehgar god
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>>127218315
Don't forget nazeebo could have dropped his wall on lunara right after the grab, instead of blocking his teammates with it.
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"I'm an Aba pro and he's good with Illidan"
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>>127218371
I really wish rehgar could be a good hero

Maybe some day
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>>127218535
>72 xp with aba

how even
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>>127218128
way too vague of a question to have an exact answer

uther has the best single target BURST healing, bar rehgar's ult

morales has the best single target SUSTAINED healing

lili, kharazim, malfurion and brightwing all have good sustained team healing

tyrande got a good single target burst heal with her Q at 13 and an average global team heal every 50s at 10

so it really depends on what your team needs. a sonya or illidan will shine with morales, a butcher or kerrigan will shine with uther, a melee heavy comp will shine with kharazim or brightwing. tyrande fits all comp and so does lili but her ult is easily interrupted. in terms of sustained healing per second, lili is probably the best post 20 even without ult.
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>>127218668
The question seems pretty direct. When it comes to having the highest heal count on the leaderboard, who can do it the best
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>>127218740
depends on your team comp, just because brightwing and kharazim might output crazy heal numbers doesn't mean they're the best supports for any given team, sometimes you only need single burst healing and other characters have self sustain and can take care of themselves
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>>127218535
the other team was so shitty that they managed to lose
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>4 minute queue for QM
Is this game dead?
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>>127217579
>tfw lunara jumps over you with her ult
>tfw perfect close up view of her hot deer pussy
mmmm lucky fuck
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>>127218740
>being this bronze
you can play the healer who on paper do the most healing ever, if you're stomping the enemy team and your team mates already have sustain, your leaderboard healing will be shit because...

Your team barely needs any fucking healing.

So the correct answer to your question is: stop being such a fucking retard and listen to what >>127218668
has to say.
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>>127219170
Ppl are playing either HL or AI games to avoid matchmaking bullshit.
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>>127219170
yes
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>>127219170
Up to 6 minutes. Can we go for 10?
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>pretend to make a game that is easy to learn, hard to master where heroes with high skill ceiling are the best
>the most OP assassin is raynor who only has 2 abilities and no mana issues
good job blizzard, even a monkey could reach r1 with raynor as main
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>>127219216
Except the topic is on paper who'd be the best.
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>>127219536
On paper that would be brightwing. In reality it is one of the worst supports because he has trouble dealing with burst damage. Uther is one of the best supports for burst healing and it's no surprise he's one of the most contested heroes at high level.
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>>127219216
>responding this agressively

>>127218171
>>127218195
>>127218371
Did it right, why can't you?
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>>127219536
hard to say between kharazim, brightwing or malfurion

they all have potential, it just depends on how the teams play

which is why this is such a retarded question

if their playstyle conditions are not met, i'd say kharazim can probably top healing anyway, unlike bw or malf, can't deal with idiots getting bursted to death in 1 second
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>>127218171
You are flat out mentally retarded if you think Tyrande puts out the most heals.
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>>127219170
quality matchmaking takes time
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>>127219820
We're all fucking jaded here m8 don't get like dat
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>>127219626
uther is shit his ccs are so big he can heal you like twice in the entire match
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>250s quick meme queue
>finally get in
>loading screen takes 3 minutes, everyone seems stuck
what the fuck
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>>127220305
Someone has a shitty computer or was dc'ing.
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>>127220217
>What is Benediction
>What is having 2 healing abilities
>What is Divine Shield
>What is healing you even after dying
>What is having a 5s death timer at level 20 (making enemies even less likely to target you)
You sure m8?
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>>127220339
I hate that trash he should be kicked right away and branded a lever
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do you need a verified email for smurf accounts or can you use 10minute mail?
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What is my favorite bronze general playing today?
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What is the best meme slug build based on keeping the selected hero alive?
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>>127220780
A different game
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>>127220780
Bloodborne
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>>127220780
azmo qm
so far 3-4, the games i won were stompings, same for the loses, no even matches so far really
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>>127220976
depends if you want to do only that (and keep 1 dude alive) or if you want to be useful?
It also depends, what character that other hero is?

If you only got the goal to keep 1 hero alive at all cost, than its probably something like that
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/2-abathur#JOLA5OFArEEOSACAA
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>>127220780
Waiting in queue simulator
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Which female hero in hots is a canonical slut? don't tell me none because it's obvious not all of them are pure virgins
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>>127221315
Jaina

>Fucked Arthas
>Fucked Thrall
>Fucked a dragon
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>>127221237
Basically i want to take some qt assassin and turn her into a tank with my tentacly hat
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any illidan build memepic?
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>>127221068
The Castle Doctrine

tried opening HotS for the first time in about half a month and battlenet launcher won't open, so fuck restarting my computer. Plus I get to dick around with pseudo-engineering in the same way minecraft uses redstone for bit storage, but that's actually much more interesting and you could do more.
I just liked the premise of TCD better.

Also thanks to the faggot earlier I'm stuck in /ck/
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>>127221196
this basically means that you need a team to carry your bronze ass

you're under a lot of pressure playing azmodan, you need to contribute to teamfights while also keeping all lanes (or at least 2) comfortably pushed

you can never get truly stomped if you play a good azmodan, you were probably just not in teamfights at all and generally worthless
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>>127221315
Lunara > Jaina > Nova > the others
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>>127191402
>free skins
maybenextyear.jpg
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>>127221367
>Fucked Thrall
That never happened
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>>127221707
idk on the last match i was on all the teamfights, dropped my generals asap. i did got the hero yesterday, i'm going for laser build unless is tomb since i can q pretty much anywhere, thought i would prefer to be with a pal so i can coordinate and get stacks effectivley instead of randoms
my general build was pic related, changing 16 and 20 according to the situation, i'm not really sure about the 7 one
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>>127222262
Bronze: the build. Either stop playing Azmodan entirely or stick to VS AI.
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>>127222262
>ever not taking Bound Minion and Forced Recruitment
literally free wins as long as you get a keep down
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>>127222392
>ever not taking Bound Minion and Forced Recruitment
>>127222262
>changing 16 and 20 according to the situation
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Post your best meme build
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/14-nova#jP6MDCFCpNcJCPOAA
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>>127222615
best quick qm memes
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/14-nova#jPeJDCFCECIPTGOAA
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>>127222615
I like going lazer gazlowe or AA tyrande for fun
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>>127222451
>>changing 16 and 20 according to the situation
if you're doing that then you aren't always taking Forced Recruitment, which you should unless your life is somehow more valuable than having two lanes pushed to core at all times, in which case you take bolt (note: Azmodan's life is never valuable enough to sacrifice two Lieutenants for)
>>127222615
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/azmodan#gpY4
splitpushing is the best meme desu
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>>127223186
Good point, thought someone told me that i shouldn't bother if we're losing hard and our lanes are getting pushed all the time, should i still dew it?
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>>127223319
if you're losing that hard, Azmodan using any build is useless, so there's still no point in not memeing
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>>127223473
Gotcha, also demonic smite wording says that it only hits minions, do they also hit structures with it?
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>>127222615
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/32-zagara#oP9KCL4K8K2KALgAA

Not really a meme build but retards think it is
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>tfw stomping a duo pair who went the ebin Tyrande + Diablo combo

Is there any better feeling in this game than stomping meta pickers?
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>>127223546
they only hit minions, but it's usually still worth it over the other talents at that level

instakilling a random minion every ~15 seconds > survivability you shouldn't need in the first place
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>25 minutes
>our valla was AFK and feeding because "why play with a nova"
>we were constantly the same level or above the enemy team
>we got both their keeps down before they got ours
>their core at 40%
>we lost the lategame immortal and the game
i honestly hope that bitch dies a slow and painful death

people like this... FUCK them.
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So why doesn't this game have jiggle physics? Is it a pain in the ass to do? I mean even fake novas happen to fall over differently all the time
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>>127224041
because people would be fapping instead of playing
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>tfw all this Azmodan talk makes you realize that the icon for his D is a WC3 Felguard's face
jesus christ Blizzard, you and your fucking icons
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>Switch from ORD1 to US8, thinking that ORD1 is just having a bitchfit
>Ping is now 50-100ms higher
Welp looks like I just won't be playing outside of training today

>>127224186
I like that they still use WC3 icons
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>>127224041
jiggle tits are very easy to do, it is just a bone with a skinned mesh on in and the bone is attached to a gravity pulled joint. you can literally add bouncy tits to a character in 10 minutes, they just don't want to
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>>127224297
>playing US while being EU
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3z1ok5/hero_tricks/

plenty of cool stuff I didn't know
>dat sylvanas tip tho
you'd have a garbage build for a meme
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>>127224509
I live in northeastern US
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>>127224186
first thing i noticed when i got him yesterday too
>q is orb of fire
>w is dk aura
>e is firelord ignite
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>>127224186
>implying removing the old WC3 icons wasn't the worst idea Blizzard had until the new matchmaking came along
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They need a matchmaking rule for QM where cho'gall and abathur cannot be put on the same team. Im not saying either of them are bad but together they make one of the worst team comps imaginable reguardless of the rest of the heroes on their team. Every game i see that i instantly know that team will lose and about 95% of the time im right.
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>>127224297
>>127224186
>>127224838
I think stitches' christmas skin's melee or hook sound was the WC3 woodcutting sound. I cant remember which, I tried it in the store because I had to see how disappointing it was and thought it sounded familiar
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>>127224297
>>127224838
I love the old icons, it's just funny to still see and recognize them. I actually had to look up WC2 icons to see if the ones for Bloodlust and Polymorph had changed. Death and Decay is still nearly the same since 1995 though
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>>127209543
Carried by Raynor
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>>127217579
Absolutely embarassing
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>>127224965
chogall with abathur hat is immortal
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All Azmodan players stop listening to bronze advice

http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/azmodan#gO-O
Level 4 7 13 16 and 20 are somewhat situational
You should always take Taste for Blood and Black Pool NO exceptions
You still push very well without being useless against heroes
Please listen do not be a useless fat fuck
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>>127226781
>Gluttony and March of Sin in the age of stuns
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so is this game dead or what? why does it take 5 minutes to find a game?
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>Muh tyrande
>Muh age of stuns
>Muh gank meta
just pick murky
just cleanse it
just dont push without vision
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So bored and lagging out im back to dota 2 for the day
Anyone want in? US East
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>>127226884
I agree with Gluttony, it's only useful in QM if both teams have no healer and the enemies have Thrall or Illidan.

March of Sin is still mandatory though. It is a huge boost to your utility in teamfights. You can still secure kills with it. And if they blow a stun on you rather than a squishy, it's a win anyway.

What else are you going to get? Relentless? Please.

WIth March of Sin you can do really cool things, like leash a Leoric. Unless you get slowed, that's 100% a kill. You can follow him while he's wraithing away, the range is long enough to not get interrupted.
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>>127227421
>murky
XD
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>tfw I'm the only Azmodan who takes Sin's Grasp

I just like having that extra bit of damage and utility early game, pls no bully
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i've saved a little gold, any advice on what hero to buy next?
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>>127227939
>What else are you going to get? Relentless?
Hellforged Armor
>>127228619
Greymane
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>>127150803
her ult was overnerfed for the current meta
no reason to pick her over muradin or diablo
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>>127228696
>implying greymane won't be fucking dogshit like every new hero
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>>127228619
Li-Ming
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