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bdubs edition

>Whats New:
Greymane on the 12th maybe

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130

Previously on /hotsg/: >>127041923
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I now abandon every game that I see a Murky in, my team or otherwise.
What a dumb fucking retarded concept for a hero. It's impossible to put in words how much of a chore it is to fight against it, and how much of a deadweight it is when it's in our team.

There is zero satisfaction in killing it, and is the only hero that feels this way. Even if you have one Nova/Zeratul hunt an Abathur, killing it will temporarily remove it from the game guaranteed. Even if you find the Murky's egg, you still have to kill the Murky afterwards. And even then, if you can't do it fast enough it can just replace his egg and the cycle starts all over.

To top it all off, its default design is the epitome of LOLRANDUM humor that so far is only present in some skins.
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Second for
>THE HUNT IS ON
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johanna is best girl, prove me wrong
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>>127150803
stupid haircut
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>>127150284
If Murky makes you upset you should get gud

useless fucking hero provided one of you picked a support, hardcountered by a level 7 talent
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Can someone explain to me how we won this game?
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On day closer to our chieftain
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When's Rock n Roll Racing get its rep?
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>>127150405
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>>127150970
incorrect
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>>127151218
one***** fugggg
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>>127151121
For fucks sake, how did you manage to die 13 times as a Nova?
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>>127151383
My fetish as a nova is to pretend im a decoy nova
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>>127151383
You fucking made me have to check if that was his assists and his assists turned out to actually be LOWER

how the fuck
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>>127151121

>13 deaths
>when you instakill any one of their team at any time
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Reminder Murky counters Tyrande
>>127151115
>hardcountered by a level 7 talent
a talent Tyrande doesn't have access to is the only way to stop the murkster
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>>127151121
viking aba carry, also uninstall for being bad nova.
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>>127151764

>picking Murky anytime before Uther is ruled out as a potential pick by the opponent
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>>127151764
You pick Tyrande as a solo support?
refer to previous statement
>get gud
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lunara buffs when
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>>127119559
Pandass research.
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>>127151115
>useless hero
>just grab the support
Murky isn't useless. Only shitters think this. He's good in some comps
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>>127152823

>tyrande isn't a good solo support

Bronzie detected.
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>>127155446
not against what he mentioned no
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>>127152823
Tyrande is perfectly viable as a solo support (assuming enemy team also only has one) nowadays.
For shrists say people are crying daily for a Tyrande nerf.
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>Half of the pics poster are from undertale
For a moment I thought I was in the wrong general.
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>>127156531

Make that over half.

I wonder just how many people are AFK training with their free stimpack right now.
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>>127156912
not me

so 0%
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>>127151121
Abathur and TLV carried your useless ass hard

Holy shit how the fuck can you be this bad

You're level 40 in a game designed for actual children

I hope you never drive a car or something that's actually important, you'll get someone fucking killed you worthless fucking retard holy shit how do you even get double-digit deaths without actually TRYING to feed
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go to play na HL after a while

get 180ms
get d/cing diablo
get this

ebin
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>>127156531
All of them are commanderITF
not even kidding
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>>127159538
>i can't help it morons think tass is a nova counter
>0-3-7
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>>127155446
>picking tyrande solo vs murky
2150 MMR detected
how close am I, shitter?
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>>127159614

who the fuck is commanderITF lmao
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>>127159114

>says the guy with rage so intense he'll run someone off the road and then shoot them in the face
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>>127159729
Nova is the biggest shitter magnet in the game

I dread having Nova on my team, and as we level up, I audibly groan and visibly shudder as I see Nova continue to take awful talents like Envenom and AA Shells, 50/50 on whether or not he takes the good ult.

Meanwhile he will fail to kill anyone 1v1 because the enemy team ISN'T fucking retarded, and never even touch an objective because "Nova's job is to be 1337 snip3r XD"

He will invariably have the lowest XP contribution by far and maybe 1-2k more hero damage than your team's Uther
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>>127160130
Some guy who is legitimately silver who blogposts here about game strategies and thinks he's a pro when he can't even break 2200 MMR.
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>>127160254
Road rage and MOBA rage are actually very similar

They're both caused by frustration at people who are obviously not paying the fuck attention

The solution to both is to pay fucking attention
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>>127160552

Oh okay.

t. CommanderITF, mining some anon's opinion.
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>The feel when you are really high mmr and care about winning.
>you understand the game and how it flows yet people around you struggle.
>you yell, scream 'bronze', 'shitter' at others and look down on them for being sub 3.2k mmr
>after a bit you regret it and rationalize your behaviour despite it being knowingly wrong
Sorry..
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>Be in low teens for HL
>Play with LoL friend in placement because qm is trash
>Get matched with rank 35+'s
>The bronze is real
>Pointless teamfighting, nova, 0 communication, no discussion pre match of team comps
>Lose a game -150 points
>Win a game +50 points
>End up with a net loss of 2 ranks
>Still better than playing QM
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>>127161567
>Play 20 placement matches
>Lose 3
>Win 4 more games
>Rank 1
>Go back to QM
>Win 12 straight
>All solo queue
git gud my man
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Just had a game where then enemy team had

Chogall
Murky
Aba
Valla

They gave up pretty much on the 5th minute and just danced around us.

When will we be able to filter these no fun allowed heroes like shitathur and memegal?
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>>127151121
>pizza chops with 13 deaths as nova
J U S T
U
S
T
Afk meme slug and lost memes carried desu qt 3.14
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>>127163063
>T-this o-one time I h-had a w-winstreak
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I play this game cause:

1. Less autism management with last-hitting/meta-gaiming/etc.

2. Loads better models/skins (including color varations, a lot of them are skins in themselves)/waifus.

I actually never bought anything with real life cash though. Some of you fuckers have no such self-control, though.
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Holy shit, I've just stomped so hard a team is even cruel
They were
>Cho'Gall
>Stiches
>Tassadar
>Abathur
We were
>Artanis (me)
>Tyrande
>Hammer
>Ilidan
>Lili
I don't blame them for getting destroyed
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>>127166293
How does Artanis handle nowadays?
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>>127166429
Still has a weak early game, but it got upgraded from nonexistent to decent.
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>>127166429
Eh. His ball bearings and flux capacitors needs some work. My disappointment is palpable when it comes to discussing his missed potential.
Although I must admit that he's not going anywhere near useless town he was a great way to go full tank now I'm just like a little more impressed than one of those things are not in my gameplay style.
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>>127166429
He got some buffs, right now is kinda good
They improved the range on his E and some more things
Though he still lacks stuns, and is dependant on his autoattacks, but for me is one the funniest heroes to play
Both ults are pretty good too
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>play quick meme, alt tab after game is over
>10 minutes later, come back and press ready
>game instantly starts
>that was fa-- it's fucking VS AI
>falstad: hi guys, finish quick or farm play time???
>diablo: play long pls
>falstad and diablo try to collect all coins and never turn in
>whenever we kill the bots they also go and feed
did i bonk my head and reach bizzaro universe?
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>>127159538
how can you see draft chat after the game? it's always gone for me
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>>127167606
Maybe, just maybe, they were buying time for getting more exp when finishing the match
But they're fucking idots anyways
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>>127167930
But that's retarded.
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>>127168157
It is
That's why they're fucking supid lol
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>start playing tyrande
>MMR starts going up
ok then
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>127168478
I might drop Li Li for a while to get my fill of night elf ass.
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>>127168157
That's a donkey.
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>>127168580
she'll be here when you stop touching yourself at night.
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>>127168616
Better do it soon. She's probably getting nerfed next patch.
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Why is Tyrande now suddenly OP?
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>>127169435
stun + burst (with vuln) + heals + decent damage
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>>127169435
The scaling changes and vaulnerability. she was always good though.
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>>127169435
Best ranged stun in the game.
Can solo heal.
Vulnerability right out of the gate.
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>>127168640
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>>127169863
>>127169927
>>127169928
So the e-sports teams started playing it and now suddenly everyone is playing it, right?
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>>127169928
Her mediocre healing isn't what makes her strong, the gank meta is what makes her strong with vaulnerability. she is a weak solo healer
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>>127170205
yup
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>>127170205
Yeah
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>>127170205
She's been in every game for 2 months straight pretty much. This is here to stay until she is nerfed.
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>>127170312
No shit.

Her kit allows her to solo heal.
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>>127170312
>>127170313
>>127170509
>>127170574
>>127170205
She just broke Hotsdogs lol
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>>127170732
lol fucking what?
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>>127170732
Just realised half of the things are in spanish and the other half in english
ok
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>>127168478
>play whoever I want
>MMR almost at 4k
tyrande isnt even that good you dumb bronzie
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>>127170312
Dying because you have zero map awareness isn't anything new, kid.
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>>127159729
037, eh?
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>>127171097
ITS 2015+1 TYRANDE IS GREAT
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>>127171097
>Tyrande isnt even that good you dumb bronzie

WEW LADS
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>>127171097
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>>127172091

galaxy quest really is a great movie
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>tfw blizzard will never make zagaras creep tumors not decay
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>>127172535

>mfw blizzard actually makes me play my character

wtf blizz
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>some random faggot picks diablo
>i pick tyrande
>the fucking retard is incapable of using E after he charges
>i tell him to get his shit together
>he finally does it just before a teamfight
>on muradin
>he never does it again during the whole game
>all he does is walk around and try to push their raynor into our team, of course that never happens
>so he just walks back into our team and uses his E on muradin
wow, slowclap
i can't believe we won that game, their jaina was so fucking retarded it made up for everything
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>Finally got Diablo 2 working.

Cinematics won't play because of windowed mode but I'll just watch them on youtube or something.
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i need dem sweet azmodan's builds, no matter how meme they are i'm a fag that only plays QM, thanks
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>>127173271
full lazer build dont look back
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>tfw my pic in in the OP
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>/vg/ member has his friends in the party
>he drops, they stay
>they are fucking awful
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>>127173271
>taste for blood, no exceptions, learn to last hit with it you shitter
>gluttony is not relevant anymore unless both teams have no healer and the enemy team has thrall / illidan, army of hell is always good
>infernal globe, the rest aren't worth it
>black pool
>march of sin, relentless if they have so much cc you feel that you will never be able to channel your E
>battleborn vs ranged comps, imposing presence vs AA heavy champs, blood for blood vs scary double tank comps
>fifth circle vs melee comps if you're on a ranged team, forced recruitment if the enemy team sucks at dealing with your push (do not pick this if you are losing so badly that your lanes are pushed all the time), bolt otherwise
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>>127173271
>That Azmodan that will stay in one lane the entire game bottom
>That Azmodan that will die over and over again ignoring danger pings
>That Azmodan that will go back to exactly where he was before after ressing
>That Azmodan that won't help in teamfights
>That Azmodan that does his job
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>>127173271
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=166970
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>play qm to try a new hero after playing nothing but HL for weeks

how do you people handle all these meme comps? both sides consistently have the dumbest heroes possible and games are just a clusterfuck
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>>127174293
>Enemy Azmodan tries this
>Have one person kill him every time while rest of the team wins 4v4 or force a 4v5 after he's dead
>That guy who thinks split pushing works in the year 2016
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>>127174506
Better than HL
>Enemy team firstpicks Tyrande
>You now are on the fast track for a loss
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>>127174650
>Enemy first picks Tyrande
>You pick Kael Uther
>Win
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>>127174746
>Uther goes hammer build
>Kael can't D+W correctly
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>>127174746
>Uther has a win rate of like 40%.
>Tyrande has a win rate approaching 60%.

Yeah that happens a lot.
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>>127174650
Just get kael, raynor or muradin and you will be fine
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>>127174948
>Tyrande goes starfall build
>Tyrande can't land stun + forget her trait exists

>>127175036
/hotsg/ has become so bronze they honestly think Uther is bad
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>still no new starcraft heroes
Why does blizzard hate that franchise so much?
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>>127175130
Uther isn't bad, but Tyrande is fucking amazing. An Uther on the other team doesn't mean shit especially because you picked him so early letting them get Muradin.
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>>127175159
Salty over their fuck up with losing the Korean audience.

Might as well go with their tried and true money makers, wow drones...

and wasn't no-eye brows and shit AA released recently?
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>>127175394
how did they lose the korean audience? I thought starcraft was like an official sport over there
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>playing cho'gall with a friend
>become a god

How can people say he's bad? Godlike hero for sure
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>enemy diablo charges squishy
>enemy tyrande stuns behind him
joke's on her, i used divine shield
i am enjoying this so much, gets me everytime
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I might be retarded but I can't think of a use of march of the black king.

When is it good? I've found that being able to trap people in a wall is invuable even if they can dive out of it because you can wait out their dives and then use it.

To me it seems like black king march is just an "oh shit" button you use when your positioning is so shit you find yourself in the middle of the enemy team
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>>127176390
>Divine Shield cooldown like 90 seconds.
>There cooldowns like 10 seconds.

I would take that trade every day.
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>>127176150
Try playing him in something other than training
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>>127176434
>zagara maw
>march into it
otherwise, it generally helps you survive when teamfighting in close quarters, it can be really good on infernal shrines or towers of shit, especially if the enemy team is rather melee heavy

but honestly, it's not that great until you get the level 20 upgrade, at which point you become a god
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>>127176434
its decent damage for wombos and it effectively acts like hardened shield; unless you're getting creamed by literally everything they have, you wont die

entomb is almost always better though, i'd only take march if there isnt a single escapeless squishy to trap

or if they have kael. never take entomb into a kael.
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>>127176562
1v1 me noob::^)
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>>127175650
This is me talking out of my ass more then anything, but could've sworn with the advent of SC2, they were trying ton control freak and micromanage everything, including tournaments and business ventures. Korea's response was FUCK YOU.

Also may have been SC2's gameplay. I don't know really.
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>>127176557
who cares? the point is winning the teamfight
>being retarded enough to be caught by diablo before a fight
you might want to stop being bronze
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>>127176434
If enemy has Kael you never take Entomb. Fucking never because everyone clumps up trying to kill them an Chain Bomb destroys your entire team.

Also if your team needs more damage or the majority of their team has ways of escaping out of Entomb.
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>Two weeks of radio silence from Blizzard

make it end
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Best hero combo in the game?

Tyrande+Butcher gets my vote
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>>127176791
Yeap no one gets caught ever. Not a single person. That's why Tyrande isn't in every single fucking game.
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>>127177072
Tyrande and Diablo is really good.
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>>127177072
Tyrande+Anyone not Butcher that has a stun gets my vote.
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>>127177072
illidan + abathur

:3
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>>127176884
Happy Feast of Winter Veil
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>it's a seasoned marksman illidan episode
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>>127177072
Abathur Kharazim is always fun.
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>>127177378
Any build with Illidan is bad right now cause Illidan is a bad hero.
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>Play TLV
>Tell them to roam as four
>Everytime, someone is too slow to mount, sync up, and roam properly and they go in one by one and get rekt
>Everytime they lose a 4v4 even with tyrande/CC warrior
fuck
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>>127176150
I just went with cho'gall with a pal for shit n giggles, i got probably one of the three (counting myself) anub'arak players in EU and got webbed everytime, outfucking played no chance whatsoever
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>>127177765
>Winning with Vikings on Tomb of the Spider.

Witchcraft.
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>>127177765
best master skin in the game tbqh
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>>127178215
I like how it's just the outfits from the second game. It's a nice touch.
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Why do Tass/Malf/Uther have such low win rates? Those characters are pretty damn good.
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>>127178513
They're force multipliers, and can't really "carry" on their own. It's the supports conundrum.
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>>127178513
Because Tyrande. Picked in almost every game. Has a win rate of like 60%. Guess who's on the losing side in most games?
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How does the "AFK in training" thing work?
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>>127178695
afk in training mode

thats literally it
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>>127178695
You go into training. Start it up. Alt tab out and leave. Come back when you think the game is over and start another one.
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>>127178513
Not alot of people know how to DS. Also, not alot of people know what to do when they're DS'd. People end up running away instead of going ham.
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>>127178765
It doesn't kick you out for inactivity?
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>>127178852
nope

not in training

in vs ai it will
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>>127178852
yup it sure does thats why eveyrone does it just to piss away time
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>>127178852
Not in training. You don't get gold and you don't complete quests you just get XP.
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>>127178908
>>127178963
Thanks. Good to know.

>>127178954
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fun heroes? i already have strong heroes like KT and Tyrande lvl15+
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>>127178513
a handful of characters have a winrate far above almost everyone else
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>>127179220
Artanis, Sonya, Chen and Lunara.
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Soon my waifu and I will be united once more...
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>>127179220
rexxar
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>>127179220
Gazlowe, Tass, Brightwing
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>>127179340
Wonder what her skin will be. Here's hoping Flash.
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>>127179340
she is so wacky!
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>>127179340
ur waifu a shit
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>>127179340
I hope she has a Widowmaker color variant.
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>>127179530
Probably the protoTracer skin like Overwatch is getting.
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>>127179220
chen, memeslug, tyrael, illidan, rexxar
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>>127179854
That's boring. Go with Flash.
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>>127176884
they'll probably be back in office by Monday. Who doesn't deserve 3 weeks off for Christmas and new years
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>>127179340
I wonder what her secondary Ult will be.
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>>127180083
>expecting Blizzard to put in any cool effort
Tracer is going to be Zeratul2: Ranged Edtion.
She'll probably suck on release too.
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>>127180239
>She'll probably suck on release too.
Another super squishy shit character that dies to raynor
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>>127180239
shes gonna be lucian from league
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>>127180239
>suck on release
Blizzard wants that cash.
They'll make her seem powerful at first, rack in some more Overwatch preorders, and then tweak some numbers so people quit bitchin.
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>playing falstad when there's an abathur on the enemy team
>he tries this shit where he goes to our base in order to spawn ticks then fuck off
I wonder if these people think at all before they do something. It cost them the game because I killed abathur when he tried it, so we got the DK and won the game with it.
They were winning up to that point and their abathur singlehandedly threw the game by making one of those cooool plays he no doubt found in "top 10 abathur tricks"
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>>127181316
>Artanis
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>try out nazeebo since he's f2p
>pick up death ritual
>just lane normally
>4k hp 1k mana by level 20
holy shit how is that balanced?
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>>127181393
The hero that had a gamebreaking exploit while he was pre-order only? What about him, friend?
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>>127181604
He was still largely considered garbage because he was god awful until 16. Everyone thought that.
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>>127181601
because Nazeebo does fuck all damage and has basically been a worse Stitches with better ults since Cho'gall
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>>127181601
he has no escapes, and even if he traps someone in his only CC, every character in the game get out by just attacking it

he's good in quick match though because everyone's retarded
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>>127181657
>he was still largely considered garbage
Did you play while that exploit was in? He could singlehandedly instafrag any low HP hero because his zealot charge alone did close to 3k damage.
Yes, it only happened after 16, but every fucking game with an artanis in it was immediately lost the second you let them get 16. And that's like, most games.
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>>127181601
Because outside of his ults he's largely nonexistent now.
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>>127181601
he used to be pretty OP but scaling patch fucked him, all he does is scattered poke damage
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>>127181863
Yes I did. I saw him lose game after game in HL because he was fucking garbage. At lvl 16 most games were already decided then because this is before the scaling changes hit and if you had Artanis the game was 4v5 until then.

There's a reason why no one used him after the first day.
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>>127181863
What was the exploit?
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>>127181316
lili, pls, they have proven that they just suck at making this game
hero strength is random at best
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>>127181907
>>127181601
Outside of his ults he's terrible now. He used to be able to 1v1 anyone because his corpse spiders did so much fucking damage, together with a zombie wall and a broadside of frogs there was absolutely nothing that could survive his damage focused on them.

Now he's just kinda annoying because rather high HP and leaping spiders dont let you mount
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ORD1 is fucking dogshit- cost me 2 games already due to high ping and I live on the fucking east coast
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>>127182181
you could make 3 attacks go off at once
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>>127182138
His Charge would reset if you hit it at the right time.

So you'd AA, Charge and it would reset so you'd hit them 8 times instead of the normal 4. It really only worked on buildings with any type of accuracy because his aa range was so shit it you had to be standing on there toes to make use of it.
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>>127182392
mean for >>127182138
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>>127181367
Thats what helps make fastlad so good
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>>127182118
This honestly sounds like you're bronze. At 3.6k MMR, every game I played with Artanis they kept their shit together and played it safe until they hit 16 at which point it was a free win. Same thing if Artanis was on our team. It was fucking ridiculous.

>>127182412
You joking? it was a simple timing thing. Aslong as you got into melee range of a target you were guaranteed to hit it. Everyone did it at all times.
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>pick tyrande
>faggot picks stitches because "we are the best combo in the game"
>he misses his hooks
>i waste my stun every time he attempts a short range hook
>i stop trying with the faggot and land stuns by myself
>he complains about it
wow, eat shit
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>>127182181
>they have proven that they just suck at making this game

Blizzard just low balls heroes for some reason, they've yet to release a hero that wasn't two or three damage/health tweaks away from being good.

Medic is good now. Artanis is decent bordering on good. Rexxar is ok. Cho'gall would be good if he wasn't completely hard fucked by the meta right now.
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>>127182764
>unironically picking stitches
eugh
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>>127183012
You ever try playing stitches on the map with the punishers?
You need to get cooldown reduction on devour and the little slimefriend spawn on it. When there's a shrine you eat all the little guys and make an army of stitchlings. It's pretty hilarious and they're actually really good if the enemy team can't deal with them quickly i.e. if they don't have kael
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>>127182803
Lunara needs more than a health tweak to be good. Her poison needs to do either more damage or last longer as well.
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>>127183297
sounds fun, but infernal shrines is my only excuse to play leoric these days.
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>>127182803
>they've yet to release a hero that wasn't two or three damage/health tweaks away from being good.

Leoric, Johanna, thrall, kael'thas, sylvanas

maybe jaina and monk released in an ok state
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>>127183624
"i'm here to feed" exists for a reason

to be fair, both monk and jaina suffered from idiot player syndrome on launch, not necessarily the hero's problem
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Wonder if we'll be able to preorder overwatch on amazon and cancel for tracer

or will the badgoy loophole be closed
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It would be funny if blizz attempted to buff lunara by making damage-over-time more powerful, but instead just make everyone pick the other assassins and use envenom
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>>127183462
People seem to not understand that Lunara doesn't do Nazeebo damage, she can shit out serious burst with Wild Vigor + Invigorating Spores.

Right now Lunara just needs to have her melee attack animation bug, a buff to her health so she doesn't spend the first 10 minutes of the match getting reamed by Raynor and Nova, and at most a revision of her level 4 talents.
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>>127183624
Every single one of those heroes was good at launch though?

Monk has also always been good though it took people a while to figure him out.
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>>127184109
What? How would buffing Lunaras dot affect envenom in any way?
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>>127184415
he thinks all dot effects are the same thing
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>>127184215
>revision
>re-vision
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>>127184215
She does need a fix there, but she can at the very least use an attack range buff. A medium between Raynor and Valla would be fine for her.

She doesn't have a getaway tool like Valla or the second health bar Raynor does so just being able to attack from a little further away would help a lot.
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>>127184349
that was the point. I was replying to the person who said all heroes sucked on release.
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>>127184637
Every hero since Monk have sucked at release. So it's pretty safe to say that they are just scared of releasing another Leoric and are crippling the heroes they release in the process.
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Is seasoned marksman useless now?
it feels like it doesn't do anything helpful regardless of the character
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>>127184215
>melee attack animation bug
Not that I don't think it shouldn't be fixed for obvious reasons, but it's hilarious to see how people think being able to cancel your attack before it happens is a terrible bug. It's standard in every single other game of the genre
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>be tyrande
>roaming with diablo
>he jumps in on their morales, we kill it
>suddenly their whole team is upon us
>holy shit we fucked up bro, we're dead
>they all focus diablo
>i heal him up while running away
>he dies, i escape
>5s respawn time
wew lads, thanks for the free win
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>>127184775
It's terrible on illidan, and it always was

other than that it's pretty gud. Most heroes that can get it get really good value out of it. Falstad attacks really fast already and together with secret weapon you can shit out LOTS of burst, thrall gets maxed attack speed with windfury, artanis attacks pretty fast and triple strike gets triple value out of it, and raynor should be obvious.
For tyrande it's alright if you build for it, but not great.
I don't think there's any other heroes that can get it.
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>enemy team has tyrande, kael and muradin
>oh shit we are fucked
>enemy team picks lunara
>we win
nice
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>>127185000
>Trips
I just remembered that in a previous thread some anon was told that it's not useful now even with thrall.
And I was wondering since it's the one I used to pick

InB4 you should make a CL build
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>>127184757
I think it's safe to say they aren't good at making this game
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>>127185739
These are the people that made Starcraft. Of course they aren't.
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>>127185701
CL build is alright in some situation. It has pretty good poke, but I feel like thrall is much much stronger if you go full windfury with windfury CD reduction. The staying power you have in teamfights is insane with this. Every 8 seconds you get a full heal and also do hilariously huge damage.

seasoned marksman really amplifies that damage so I usually get it.
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>>127184956
>Play Diablo
>Fight goes sour
>I stay behind so team can escape since I'll just rez in 5 seconds
>Team commits suicide trying to save me

I appreciate the effort but please stop.
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>slap zagara's ass
>it explodes
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>>127182305
east coast, I've been getting absurd shit like this
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>>127185701
With the WF build you're trading a weaker early game for a stronger late game. Less burst damage for more sustained damage.
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>>127186692
>slap li li's ass
>i explode
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>>127186692
>you will never be unbirthed by zagara
>you will never sleep comfortably amongst inactive banelings
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>>127182305
It's so fucking garbage dude. I hate queueing up with my east coast friends because of it.
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What kind of kinky bondage do you think you could get into with abathur?
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>>127182305
Yep, ORD1 fucks me over because I'm on the east coast as well. I just selected US8, even though I get like 100+ ping, it's still better than the 2k ping on ord1
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>2 people on my team were shit and have been carried hard
>they're a premade ofc
>check hotslogs, they have the lowest MMR
this keeps happening. i don't see why people that hotslogs is shit for MMR calculations and "so very off from blizzard's MMR". You can always see the top people on hotslogs also in blizzshit's leaderboards.

I think niggers are afraid there's a way to prove that they are bronze and they try to discredit the source.
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>>127182305
Blizzard had to shut down the east coast servers because they were spending millions on this
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>>127187503
hotdogs has plenty of problems, but most of the people who bitch about it, dont like seeing actual data that shows that they, or their builds, arent good
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>>127187812
Hotslogs is fine for what it does, pretty much all high level games are uploaded anyway. Bronze games not getting uploaded don't mean much.
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>>127176434
>Good finisher in the middle of a teamfight.
>Good anti-cluster
>Good answer to a successful bait
>Good way to reach the backlines
>Good way to disorient or relieve pressure
>Godly heal at lv20
>Generally a game swinging move if it lands correctly
>Good smorcing tool

>>127176714
I don't think there's a single time I'd pick entomb over march when I'm try-harding.
Yeah entomb CAN be useful in some match-ups, but it's WAY less versatile.
I'm almost tempted to call it trash w/o voice comms.
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>be first pick
>lock in tyrande
>next picks: nova, chogall, tyrael
>enemy team has kael, raynor, anub, morales and diablo
>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>someone on the enemy team queuedodged
I AM THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE
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>>127186692
I think zagara works like this
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>>127188297
>tfw you will never be attached to Zagara while her buttclaws hold you in place, draining you of semen and essence while you're helplessly locked in and joined with her while she goes about doing her daily routine and tending to her baneling babies
why even live?
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>>127188297
how zagara have 2 vagina
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>>127186306
Just press v, THEN blame them for fucking up.

I'd definitely back if a tank pressed retreat, I've been in those shoes many a time so I wouldn't even look twice before gtfo.
Too often though, when I play as anything NOT a tank, I get one who either over-extends, doesn't peal and/or doesn't communicate.

Really fucking sucks.
Makes me want to just take their keyboard and play for them.
Same reason why I can't play support.

But I don't have that issue with abathur.
Why is that?
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>>127189002
Oh my god. Re-reading what I typed.
The disgusting errors ruin the flow, but whatever.
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>>127188984
thanks abathur
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>>127188984
Zagara have entrance and exit seperate for efficient entry and departure
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Playing Kael I noticed lunara dies in one of my stuns. Her hit box seems pretty large too for such a fragile character, so it's almost impossible to miss the stun. What is the point of that character?
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So, Chen isn't actually BAD any more right?

Or is he still trash because against a competent group, he'd be stunned out of drinking all the fucking time?
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>mfw even blizzard youtubers are calling attention to state of matchmaking
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>>127189769
He's not great in the current meta but the scaling changes did help him.
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>>127189769
theres going to be a tye randy in every match
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>be tyrande
>diablo on my team refuses to use his E after the charge
what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
>Qs target
>W
>it walks away
great fucking job bro
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tfw no woolly bully abathur skin that makes him look like a fuzzy caterpillar
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>>127189886
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>playing johanna
>find enemy team taking the boss on the sand map with the 3 laser towers
>watching them in a bush with sonya
>other teammates dead/somewhere else
>just as they kill the boss, run in with sonya
>end up killing all 5 of them, including murky twice
>win the game

I have no idea how it worked out so well but it did
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>>127190398
kek
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>>127190398
the match making can be fucked, but they have repeatedly said they dont want to force a meta

2 dps 2 healers and specialist vs
1 dps 2 healers 2 tanks
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>>127190398
5man premade vs 5 randoms should never happen
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>>127190398
To be fair I don't blame him. I just played a Hero Leauge game where the enemy all picked squishy ranged assassins with no initiate whilst our team was balanced and had a fuck load of initiates and disables.

To say it was a stomping is an understatement.
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>>127190747
>Forcing a meta of balanced teams in a game revolving around teamfighting over objectives
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>>127189886
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>>127190906
players just wouldn't understand matchmaking without forced losses
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>constantly fighting 5 stacks
>every single one has Diablo/Jo/Tyrael, Stitches, Raynor, Tyrande and Uther/Tassadar/Kael
>my team is always 3-5 randoms

I guess it's only HL for an attempt a a decent team. QM is disgusting 90% of the time.
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>>127190747
>>127190861
>>127190398
>Blizzard reveal Arena
>It's a crazy new mode where anything can happen
>1 nova? 5 novas? completely unbalanced teams? nothing but assassins? nothing but supports?

Oh wait it's quick match.

arena cancelled
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>>127190906
and if he picked tye randy instead of brightwing, the match making would have been fine?
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>>127191013
Yeah I only play HL now, at least there's some discussion about team comps and counterpicks most of the time.

Even if I lose I'm having more fun trying to win than wasting my time with qm shitters.
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>>127191096
>arena costs 100 gold to enter
>works like hearthstone, 3 losses and you are out
>get 100 gold back after 5 wins
>get 200 gold for 10 wins
>small chance of getting a random skin at 12 wins
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A qt from work who plays WoW who has a bf of 6 years she met as her old raid leader from Vanilla just gave me $20 for my 25th and told me to buy some skins and slut up my party...

I let her choose the skins and she picked:
>Cyb'Anub'Arak
>Tempest Regalia Jaina
>Ranger General Sylvannus
>Desert Queen Zagara
She wanted Sgt. Doomhammer and Succubus Kerrigan but I already owned those.
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>>127191339
>>127190398
>>127189886
>yfw he started and paid for a heroes team back in alpha/beta
>yfw he's posted videos about losing 10's of thousands of $ on it
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>>127191339
>Bronze shitter, who owns a bronze shitter team
>its match makers fault that I keep losing
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>>127160425
>people are bad at low mmr
The things you described don't occur very often in masters.

Git gud.
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>>127191881
>Bronze
>Not #1 ranked

https://twitter.com/stellarlotusftw?lang=en
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>>127189886
In fairness he is picking brightwing, that's almost as bad as picking lunara.
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>>127191881
I like Jesse, he normally comes off as a decent guy, but watching him play this game is infuriating. Like all shitters, he thinks he is good and talks shit about the rest of team nonstop, except the rare occasions where he is winning.

Its the worst when plays with the chat room, or people like sinvicta.

>>127192068
Jesse pls
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>>127192319
yeah, jesse is actually cool, but i refuse to watch anything he does with heroes. it never ends well.
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>>127179340
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>>127192490
see you in three days, senpai
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>>127181367
>bragging about beating abathur on dragon shire
Like taking candy from a candy hating baby
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>>127192312
>implying teleporting on top of an ally fleeing hero at the last second shielding them from death and giving a speed buff to both get away safely isn't one of the most fun things you can do in this game
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>>127179340
>not waifuing best girl

Must be horrible being you, you must also like Hawaiian Pizzas.
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>>127192490
>tfw you recognize Incase on sight from the faces
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>>127192619
Why three days?
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>>127191745
I see your tech girls and I raise you more.
https://mega.nz/#!j1kgHQTR!-Z_bmHloegGuYw1x-UQ4XxLFOSuQJK66xJxywwWU-x4
>>127192490
l-lewd
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>>127192439
>>127192319
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>>127192668
Yeah I love playing brightwing. It's so satisfying to Emerald Wind a melee comp and watch them get killed as they get pushed back.
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>>127189886
Nothing's wrong with that by QM standards.
Besides the part where THEY TAKE A PICTURE WITH THEIR FUCKING PHONE.

>>127191745
What?
I bet you're a girl or a faggot (not the good type).
Only they would say something as lackluster and fruitless as that.

I read it looking to learn something or experience someone learning a concept for the first time. No.
Re-read it several times, for a punchline, nothing.

WHY
H
Y

It's like an uber-shitpost.
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>>127192818
they should have listened to the 1700mmr shot caller
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>>127192987
>Besides the part where THEY TAKE A PICTURE WITH THEIR FUCKING PHONE.
Probably only uses twitter on his phone or something
>>
mmr reset when?
>>
No other MOBA feels as reliant on your team mates not being shit as this game does
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>>127193484
I've become convinced that the entire MOBA genre is just a way to screen for mental disabilities
>>
>>127193484
No other MOBA feels as salty that your team mates are shit as this game does
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>>127194007
You just figured this out?
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>>127193484
That's what I think is holding back this game the most.
I bet it's what makes MM suck as well.

>>127194036
Yeah, I bet losses would feel less significant if you could play to your maximum capacity in every game.
>>
The best part about HotS is that you have to hope that you don't have 1 retard on your team when in reality, every moba has 3 decent people and 7 retards in every game unless you stack.
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>>127193484
It's like that on purpose so everyone can blame everyone else for losing
>>
>another 5 stack
>same fucking team

I'm done, cya. Fix this shit and I'll come back.
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>>127194471
The ol' 80-20 rule strikes again
>>
Has anyone good ever tried climbing the MMR ladder on QM after intentionally dropping it to three digits?
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>>127194007
I don't get it.

The people with mental disabilities are the bronze,
the ones who deny being shit
or the ones who have a complete meltdown for no reason.

>implying they aren't all the same
Oh I get it.
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>>127194471
the biggest problem is that most of the worst players not only don't know they are bad, but think they are great
see also Jesse Cox >>127191881
>>
>divine storm
>ever
uhhh
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>>127195176
Maybe a year ago, that's ever.
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>>127194824
MOBAs are "Dunning-Kruger: the Genre"
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>>127195176
>taking Divine Bronze
>>
anyone order a one man mmr tanking crew?
>>
Even in games like hearthstone, there are lots of shit players who think they are good, and blame losses on the ladder, on aggro decks, on p2w, etc. But I think most of that games' shitters, know that they are average, at best.

But here, you have 9 other people in every game that you get to blame, and if thats not enough, then just blame the match making. It is always someone elses fault when they lose and every win, they carried. Besides that, to even know you are shitter you have to visit a 3rd party website, and since you never uploaded any games, that site doesnt know what it is talking about.
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>>127177072

Medic + Butcher is just unfair to go against, especially if the team also has a second healer or heavy peels for Morales.
>>
remove undertalefags
>>
>tfw on a loss streak because every game, 1 person leaves or refuses to communicate

Such a great morning and afternoon, now it's the most painful night of my life.
>>
>ahead the whole game
>someone makes one mistake
>lose

love this game
>>
I'm convinced Sylvanus is one of the most overpowered heroes in the game right now .
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>go medic
>team has no damage
>go damage
>team has no medic

Why do I still try?
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>>127198926
More like one team is better at capitalizing on an advantage.

>Playing scrub league
>+20mins
>Behind all game because we have a bot jaina
>Still managed to 3/4 angels
>Gather up for a push bot, lili whining about some panda shit
>Get a penta kill thanks to hinterland blast
>Push through keep to core.
>Only Zigzag up for enemy rest got 30s
>Suddenly half the team starts hearthing to "defend against mercs on one of our keeps:"
>Just tell them to right click the core
>We win
>Say you're welcome

Why are people scared to win?
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>>127197995
It'll pass. I had a game recently where we wiped their team, 3 people went to do boss then realized they could do core. We lost with their core at 4%.
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>>127199160

>medic, lili, uther, azmodan, murky
>vs.
>raynor, kaelthas, malfurian, illidan, sonya

working as intended familia
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>>127199308
>Abathur, Malf, Medic, Nova, Sylvanas.

You don't know pain.
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>>127199250

Because the WoWfags who inhabit this shit game think they have to clear trash before winning the game. Don't know how many games have been thrown from simply not clicking the core when we outnumbered them, they dance around the enemy base until they respawn, and then get picked off and we lose.

Bronze lyf.
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>>127150803
All defense no damage.
Just play Sonya and stop being a pleb.
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Oh boy, I sure am glad it takes blizzard half a fucking month to post the top 200, otherwise I might get to know in a timely manner whether I made it or not!
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>Wasting money on costumes instead of buying something other than rice and noodles
>The Elwynn Forest music made me resub to WoW and buy the last 3 expansions for the first time in 5 years but I haven't even logged in all week
Something's wrong with me.
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I never thought I'd actually get a kill with the SEF split.
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>>127204324
but anon, i like cup noodles

they also take about 3 minutes to full cook, which is about the same amount of time it takes for a queue to pop
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>>127204449
From the same game, this was kinda funny, too. Remeber to always use split before triple attack when chasing, kiddos.
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I have a great idea for a new hero. He is 3 times stronger than normal hero, but can be only summoned as an ult by some other hero and can't play otherwise and has maximum of 2 minutes lifespan
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>>127204713
sounds bad
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>>127204920
you sound bronze
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>>127191881
at least i will never play with him in qm because my MMR is sky high
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>>127204713
>>127204920
>>127204990
It does sound bad, unless maaybe the hero can do stuff from the side lines while he's not able to be in play. But that overlaps with Aba kinda.
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>>127204553
This Makes me want to fuck right off to /ck/ and never come back.
I just slap a half slice of kraft cheese on that chicken or beef flavor, or maybe 2 slices with like 2 packs of ramen if I haven't eaten all day.
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holy shit gazzlow is awesome, i speecd him into siege busting and took down all enemy bells by myself, they had nothing to fire from basically
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>>127204449
>>127204561
doing gods work
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>tfw can't play as tyrande any more because I'm doing the nofap
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>>127206163
ahh, what a rank to be in when the enemy team ignores you split pushing as a hero with no escape on the smallest map in the game
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>>127206314
this basically
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>>127166202
>Some of you fuckers have no such self-control, though.
neet detected
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>>127206283
Maybe the message was too mixed

Give me the elf butt
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>>127206283
>can't pick a character because you might jerk off
you have some serious self control issues as well as some poor taste in what you're jerking off to. It's just just videogames negro
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>be me
>be hammer
>have rehgar on team
>rehgar does half the healing of enemy morales for the entire game
>literally not one single ancestral healing
>multiple fights without even 1 chain heal
>rehgar starts criticizing me
>point out that he sucks and isnt healing
>stops in the middle of fights to talk shit
>one time blocked and killed an ally to talk shit
>stops playing 5 min before game ends and blames it on me

God I fucking hate when children have vacation from school
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>>127208210
>be hammer
stopped reading there, everything was your fault
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>>127208479
my winrate with hammer is like 80%
get rekt
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got an idea. i will create smurf account and go play as gall to my normal account co, then dc in the game as gall and enjoy having 100% accurate computer aimed skillshots from gall bot
feels good
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I herd you guys liked seeing streamers bitch about match making
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>>127179220
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>>127209089
If your team has more then one of: bw, nova, abathur, gazlowe, zeratul, chogall, lunara, murky, rexxar, tychus, sylvanas
then bitch about it on twitter
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>>127208754
because rest of the team carries your pathetic shit
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>>127209329
Just got out of this game, I got carried so hard
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>>127209543
>so embarrassed and scared he has to censor names
lol, haven't even bothered looking and your shit scores
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>>127209612
Why don't you post your name, anon?
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>>127209568
Link the guide.

I feel like a laff.
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>>127210038
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/guide/support-tyrande-101-healing-guide-8362
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>>127210430
>heroesfire
not once
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>>127210430
> Can solo if done right
thx for this advice which applies to ever hero vs every hero
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>>127210430
>heroesfire
>seasoned marksman
>tyrande not good on bhb
>tyrande not good against cho'gall
>he's not even rank 1
>suggesting huntress fury
>suggesting trueshot in every matchup
>suggesting mending mark
>not suggesting shooting star if you have no solid ranged aa and aren't going owl build
>suggesting celestial wrath (>>>implying you'd take starfall in the first place)
>suggesting nexus frenzy

Thanks anon.
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>>127209089
>>127209296
I dunno what he's whining about, these are perfectly fine team comps
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How do i build abathur as meele or range assassins? I want to do the hat things but i also want to engage directly in a fight
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>>127211167
Start to lift. His arms are scrawny as fuck
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>Nova is the most popular hero in QM, being in 50% of games

Honestly I'm not surprised.
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>>127211167
make sure you take the talent where you deal 150% bonus damage on every 3rd hit
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>>127211595
I think she went up when lunara came out, won't be suprised if we get a deerhunter skin for her
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>>127211595
woa..............
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is Tassadar viable alongside Tyrande or a different support?
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>>127211846
Yes, very.
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>>127211660
I really don't see lunara in like any games anymore
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>>127212024
I did yesterday, her name was CaptainDisaster
She died like 15 times, we had no healer and nova was on the enemy team, she went for the damage ult instead of the jump so she killed her only "escape"
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how long would it take to smurf the vulture?
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>>127198956
>sylvanus
freudian slip?
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>>127212808
~20 afk training matches x4 accounts
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oops I bought kerrigan
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After a very long time i have 10k smekels again and i am picking a hero to buy. I want some fun hero, i see that bitch which can turn buildings black in literally every game, is she really so good?
Anyway my biggest interest right now is in abathur because you with his xerox ult you get to play as many different heroes during the match
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is it true you can't place higher than rank 5?
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>Someone instalocks Lunara in hero league
Fuck, Should i dodge?
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>>127214408
yes, use the abathur exploit
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She can chase like no other and also has a mechanic that allows her to peel off guilt free if she doesn't want to chase.

Keyword peel, not escape. That's whole nother issue.
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>>127213879
If you like Valla you will like her, she plays similarly but better at kiting, in team fights silence and make vulnerable everyone.

Abathur is more fun, if you just want to win more go Sylv.
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>>127215385
If you go abathur you can be sylvanas at any time after level 10
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what should i use to record something for a webm?
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>>127215508
google
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>>127215508
- camstudio
- shadow play if you have a suitable geforce video card
- the built in solution from microsoft if you have win 10
etc.
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This is going to suck, isn't it?
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>Losing to 5 man premades
I seriously hope you never do this
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>trap lunara in zombie wall
>release the plague of egipt.jpg
>murky octo grabs her + fish bomb
>kael tornado her anyways and double bomb her shit
>lunara just 360 walks away
>use ravenous spirit out of desperation can't even catch her
>murky dies poisoned I barely survive
shieeeet
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>>127215853
there's always hope, perhaps someone on the other team has stroke or something
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>>127215918
if blizzard keeps releasing such blatantly overpowered heroes this game will die by 2017
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>>127215918
>implying one kael double bomb wouldnt melt her face
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>>127214279
Yes.
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can you get kicked for afk in player ai matches?
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>>127216340
yes
not in training mode though
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>>127215918
i see not even the bbckekman can stop the force of nature
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>>127216405
But if you play with ai temmates and tab out, doesn¨t the game pause?
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>>127216457
no. It pauses in training mode if you are on talent selection, maybe that's what you are experiencing? I levelled 4 smurfs for the mount afking in training mode and it doesn't pause as long as you don't click on the talent selection. Also leveled several heroes to 5 on my main account using the same method.
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>lose game
>-30 mmr
>win game
>+10 mmr
hotslogs is a joke
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>>127216575
how long does one afk match takes? which difficulty do you use?
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>>127217182
Stop playing with people with lower MMR
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>>127217182
>lose a game with shitty enemies (ie you should have won)
>lose a lot of mmr
>win a game with shitty enemies (ie should have been piss easy)
>don't gain a lot of mmr

It's just math, anon.
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>>127217357
You can't choose difficulty in training mode. Difficulty is only for vs AI mode and as I said you'll be kicked for afk there even if you play with bots against bots.
A training match takes about 15-25 minutes and your 4 ai teammates always win.
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Arise nydus
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>>127215918
>>127216126
Ok that was different from what I remember I mixed something that happened later, discount snipe and orbital cannon though :^)
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>>127217368
>>127217382
I can't help who Blizzards shitty matchmaking system puts me with/against
At this point I have to maintain a 75% win ratio to not tank my MMR
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>>127217657
Join /vg/ and play with people of similar MMR then
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>>127217579
How... how can a team of 4 people be so incompetent? You seriously couldn't handle a character with 2k hp with 4 people?
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>>127217657
Just look at this. Ridiculous
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>>127217579
Spell shield in action against bronzies
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>>127217579
greater spell shield is just so broken guys we have to fix it and stop abathur from putting a shield on her
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>>127217579
NERF NERF NERRRRRFFFFFFF SHES SO BROKEN AND POWERFUL FUCK FUCKING GOD DAMN IT
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>>127217789
the subtle part is how missed the zombies because of her speedhack lel
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>>127217860
>3.3k upset that he cant inflate his MMR anymore in a game mode he isnt forced to play
For a second I almost sided with you
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>>127217579
Things would have been different if kael had thrown out one of his 2 very fucking low cd ults

Never be confident in your kills always be wasteful so that you avoid embarrassing moments like this
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>>127217657
>>127217860
If you lose a game you should have won, hotslogs thinks maybe you shouldn't be at that mmr anymore.

If you had been bitching about qm comp or something, MAYBE you'd have had a point, but if you belong at your mmr, the mmr of the players you get matched with is irrelevant in the long run. If you get drooling retards on your team every time, then you won't be losing many points. The only reason you lose a lot of points is if the enemy team is on average more retarded than your team. Judging by the swing of your mmr, you don't have very many games uploaded to slogs yet. This gives me the feeling that your mmr is inflated due to a large winning streak at the beginning of your uploads, and you may be coming down off that now. If you belong at that mmr you'll stay there over time. As I said, it's just math.
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On a list which supports from best to worst do you think puts out the most heals?
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>>127218128
>Tyrande
>power gap
>Uther
>mega power gap
>Everyone else
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>>127218128
Overall best support: tyrande
Best support for just healing: probably monk
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>>127217579
nova didn't use pinning shot, which was the best thing to do here even if she was about to die

kael wasted his stun on an already stunned hero

you fucking bodyblocked murky from mounting and sliming her

kael used his D on Q instead of W

basically everyone fucked up except murky
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>>127218128
i know tyrande and uther are gods but the man that punches people so hard so others get healed by it it's pretty fun desu
i myself belive in the rehgar god
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>>127218315
Don't forget nazeebo could have dropped his wall on lunara right after the grab, instead of blocking his teammates with it.
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"I'm an Aba pro and he's good with Illidan"
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>>127218371
I really wish rehgar could be a good hero

Maybe some day
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>>127218535
>72 xp with aba

how even
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>>127218128
way too vague of a question to have an exact answer

uther has the best single target BURST healing, bar rehgar's ult

morales has the best single target SUSTAINED healing

lili, kharazim, malfurion and brightwing all have good sustained team healing

tyrande got a good single target burst heal with her Q at 13 and an average global team heal every 50s at 10

so it really depends on what your team needs. a sonya or illidan will shine with morales, a butcher or kerrigan will shine with uther, a melee heavy comp will shine with kharazim or brightwing. tyrande fits all comp and so does lili but her ult is easily interrupted. in terms of sustained healing per second, lili is probably the best post 20 even without ult.
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>>127218668
The question seems pretty direct. When it comes to having the highest heal count on the leaderboard, who can do it the best
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>>127218740
depends on your team comp, just because brightwing and kharazim might output crazy heal numbers doesn't mean they're the best supports for any given team, sometimes you only need single burst healing and other characters have self sustain and can take care of themselves
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>>127218535
the other team was so shitty that they managed to lose
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>4 minute queue for QM
Is this game dead?
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>>127217579
>tfw lunara jumps over you with her ult
>tfw perfect close up view of her hot deer pussy
mmmm lucky fuck
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>>127218740
>being this bronze
you can play the healer who on paper do the most healing ever, if you're stomping the enemy team and your team mates already have sustain, your leaderboard healing will be shit because...

Your team barely needs any fucking healing.

So the correct answer to your question is: stop being such a fucking retard and listen to what >>127218668
has to say.
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>>127219170
Ppl are playing either HL or AI games to avoid matchmaking bullshit.
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>>127219170
yes
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>>127219170
Up to 6 minutes. Can we go for 10?
>>
>pretend to make a game that is easy to learn, hard to master where heroes with high skill ceiling are the best
>the most OP assassin is raynor who only has 2 abilities and no mana issues
good job blizzard, even a monkey could reach r1 with raynor as main
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>>127219216
Except the topic is on paper who'd be the best.
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>>127219536
On paper that would be brightwing. In reality it is one of the worst supports because he has trouble dealing with burst damage. Uther is one of the best supports for burst healing and it's no surprise he's one of the most contested heroes at high level.
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>>127219216
>responding this agressively

>>127218171
>>127218195
>>127218371
Did it right, why can't you?
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>>127219536
hard to say between kharazim, brightwing or malfurion

they all have potential, it just depends on how the teams play

which is why this is such a retarded question

if their playstyle conditions are not met, i'd say kharazim can probably top healing anyway, unlike bw or malf, can't deal with idiots getting bursted to death in 1 second
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>>127218171
You are flat out mentally retarded if you think Tyrande puts out the most heals.
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>>127219170
quality matchmaking takes time
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>>127219820
We're all fucking jaded here m8 don't get like dat
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>>127219626
uther is shit his ccs are so big he can heal you like twice in the entire match
>>
>250s quick meme queue
>finally get in
>loading screen takes 3 minutes, everyone seems stuck
what the fuck
>>
>>127220305
Someone has a shitty computer or was dc'ing.
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>>127220217
>What is Benediction
>What is having 2 healing abilities
>What is Divine Shield
>What is healing you even after dying
>What is having a 5s death timer at level 20 (making enemies even less likely to target you)
You sure m8?
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>>127220339
I hate that trash he should be kicked right away and branded a lever
>>
do you need a verified email for smurf accounts or can you use 10minute mail?
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What is my favorite bronze general playing today?
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What is the best meme slug build based on keeping the selected hero alive?
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>>127220780
A different game
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>>127220780
Bloodborne
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>>127220780
azmo qm
so far 3-4, the games i won were stompings, same for the loses, no even matches so far really
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>>127220976
depends if you want to do only that (and keep 1 dude alive) or if you want to be useful?
It also depends, what character that other hero is?

If you only got the goal to keep 1 hero alive at all cost, than its probably something like that
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/2-abathur#JOLA5OFArEEOSACAA
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>>127220780
Waiting in queue simulator
>>
Which female hero in hots is a canonical slut? don't tell me none because it's obvious not all of them are pure virgins
>>
>>127221315
Jaina

>Fucked Arthas
>Fucked Thrall
>Fucked a dragon
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>>127221237
Basically i want to take some qt assassin and turn her into a tank with my tentacly hat
>>
any illidan build memepic?
>>
>>127221068
The Castle Doctrine

tried opening HotS for the first time in about half a month and battlenet launcher won't open, so fuck restarting my computer. Plus I get to dick around with pseudo-engineering in the same way minecraft uses redstone for bit storage, but that's actually much more interesting and you could do more.
I just liked the premise of TCD better.

Also thanks to the faggot earlier I'm stuck in /ck/
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>>127221196
this basically means that you need a team to carry your bronze ass

you're under a lot of pressure playing azmodan, you need to contribute to teamfights while also keeping all lanes (or at least 2) comfortably pushed

you can never get truly stomped if you play a good azmodan, you were probably just not in teamfights at all and generally worthless
>>
>>127221315
Lunara > Jaina > Nova > the others
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>>127191402
>free skins
maybenextyear.jpg
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>>127221367
>Fucked Thrall
That never happened
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>>127221707
idk on the last match i was on all the teamfights, dropped my generals asap. i did got the hero yesterday, i'm going for laser build unless is tomb since i can q pretty much anywhere, thought i would prefer to be with a pal so i can coordinate and get stacks effectivley instead of randoms
my general build was pic related, changing 16 and 20 according to the situation, i'm not really sure about the 7 one
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>>127222262
Bronze: the build. Either stop playing Azmodan entirely or stick to VS AI.
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>>127222262
>ever not taking Bound Minion and Forced Recruitment
literally free wins as long as you get a keep down
>>
>>127222392
>ever not taking Bound Minion and Forced Recruitment
>>127222262
>changing 16 and 20 according to the situation
>>
Post your best meme build
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/14-nova#jP6MDCFCpNcJCPOAA
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>>127222615
best quick qm memes
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/14-nova#jPeJDCFCECIPTGOAA
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>>127222615
I like going lazer gazlowe or AA tyrande for fun
>>
>>127222451
>>changing 16 and 20 according to the situation
if you're doing that then you aren't always taking Forced Recruitment, which you should unless your life is somehow more valuable than having two lanes pushed to core at all times, in which case you take bolt (note: Azmodan's life is never valuable enough to sacrifice two Lieutenants for)
>>127222615
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/azmodan#gpY4
splitpushing is the best meme desu
>>
>>127223186
Good point, thought someone told me that i shouldn't bother if we're losing hard and our lanes are getting pushed all the time, should i still dew it?
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>>127223319
if you're losing that hard, Azmodan using any build is useless, so there's still no point in not memeing
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>>127223473
Gotcha, also demonic smite wording says that it only hits minions, do they also hit structures with it?
>>
>>127222615
http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/32-zagara#oP9KCL4K8K2KALgAA

Not really a meme build but retards think it is
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>tfw stomping a duo pair who went the ebin Tyrande + Diablo combo

Is there any better feeling in this game than stomping meta pickers?
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>>127223546
they only hit minions, but it's usually still worth it over the other talents at that level

instakilling a random minion every ~15 seconds > survivability you shouldn't need in the first place
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>25 minutes
>our valla was AFK and feeding because "why play with a nova"
>we were constantly the same level or above the enemy team
>we got both their keeps down before they got ours
>their core at 40%
>we lost the lategame immortal and the game
i honestly hope that bitch dies a slow and painful death

people like this... FUCK them.
>>
So why doesn't this game have jiggle physics? Is it a pain in the ass to do? I mean even fake novas happen to fall over differently all the time
>>
>>127224041
because people would be fapping instead of playing
>>
>tfw all this Azmodan talk makes you realize that the icon for his D is a WC3 Felguard's face
jesus christ Blizzard, you and your fucking icons
>>
>Switch from ORD1 to US8, thinking that ORD1 is just having a bitchfit
>Ping is now 50-100ms higher
Welp looks like I just won't be playing outside of training today

>>127224186
I like that they still use WC3 icons
>>
>>127224041
jiggle tits are very easy to do, it is just a bone with a skinned mesh on in and the bone is attached to a gravity pulled joint. you can literally add bouncy tits to a character in 10 minutes, they just don't want to
>>
>>127224297
>playing US while being EU
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3z1ok5/hero_tricks/

plenty of cool stuff I didn't know
>dat sylvanas tip tho
you'd have a garbage build for a meme
>>
>>127224509
I live in northeastern US
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>>127224186
first thing i noticed when i got him yesterday too
>q is orb of fire
>w is dk aura
>e is firelord ignite
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>>127224186
>implying removing the old WC3 icons wasn't the worst idea Blizzard had until the new matchmaking came along
>>
They need a matchmaking rule for QM where cho'gall and abathur cannot be put on the same team. Im not saying either of them are bad but together they make one of the worst team comps imaginable reguardless of the rest of the heroes on their team. Every game i see that i instantly know that team will lose and about 95% of the time im right.
>>
>>127224297
>>127224186
>>127224838
I think stitches' christmas skin's melee or hook sound was the WC3 woodcutting sound. I cant remember which, I tried it in the store because I had to see how disappointing it was and thought it sounded familiar
>>
>>127224297
>>127224838
I love the old icons, it's just funny to still see and recognize them. I actually had to look up WC2 icons to see if the ones for Bloodlust and Polymorph had changed. Death and Decay is still nearly the same since 1995 though
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>>127209543
Carried by Raynor
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>>127217579
Absolutely embarassing
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>>127224965
chogall with abathur hat is immortal
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How can I get this gross green facepaint off my waifu?
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All Azmodan players stop listening to bronze advice

http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/azmodan#gO-O
Level 4 7 13 16 and 20 are somewhat situational
You should always take Taste for Blood and Black Pool NO exceptions
You still push very well without being useless against heroes
Please listen do not be a useless fat fuck
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>>127226781
>Gluttony and March of Sin in the age of stuns
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so is this game dead or what? why does it take 5 minutes to find a game?
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>Muh tyrande
>Muh age of stuns
>Muh gank meta
just pick murky
just cleanse it
just dont push without vision
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So bored and lagging out im back to dota 2 for the day
Anyone want in? US East
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>>127226884
I agree with Gluttony, it's only useful in QM if both teams have no healer and the enemies have Thrall or Illidan.

March of Sin is still mandatory though. It is a huge boost to your utility in teamfights. You can still secure kills with it. And if they blow a stun on you rather than a squishy, it's a win anyway.

What else are you going to get? Relentless? Please.

WIth March of Sin you can do really cool things, like leash a Leoric. Unless you get slowed, that's 100% a kill. You can follow him while he's wraithing away, the range is long enough to not get interrupted.
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>>127227421
>murky
XD
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>tfw I'm the only Azmodan who takes Sin's Grasp

I just like having that extra bit of damage and utility early game, pls no bully
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i've saved a little gold, any advice on what hero to buy next?
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>>127227939
>What else are you going to get? Relentless?
Hellforged Armor
>>127228619
Greymane
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>>127150803
her ult was overnerfed for the current meta
no reason to pick her over muradin or diablo
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>>127228696
>implying greymane won't be fucking dogshit like every new hero
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>>127228619
Li-Ming
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>>127229010
>implying he'll be decent but players will just charge in melee form and die instantly so they think he's fucking dogshit like every new hero
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what's bonus points in ranked?

like bonus pool or how does it work?
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>>127231104
Its to help you get to your correct rank faster. When you run out of bonus points at rank 20 instead of 1 it means you belong in bronze league.
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I hit diamond on hotslogs's arbitrary mineral based ranking system, am I cool now
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>keep getting chogall on the other team
>pick anub

free wins tbqbh
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>>127209089
Surprised he didn't include his bald egghead in the picture.
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>take a break from HotS hoping the game will improve in the meantime
>couple months later
>exactly the same +2 meme heroes
>Blizzard still gives exactly one fifth of a shit about HotS
>/hotsg/ it still the same old blogposting central filled with actual retards bickering at eachother about game mechanics and the "meta" like they have a clue what they're talking about

wew
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>>127231262
does it show somewhere how much there's left?
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>>127232374
Less than masters is = to bronze
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this game is so sexist, there isn't close to a 50-50 male to female ratio, and all the females are either muscle monsters or porn stars. Where is the representation for regular women? I came here from WoW which is a good game but am so disappointed, the pvp here sucks as well unlike in WoW. This game is shit and you losers should all feel bad
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>>127217860
>win 13 lose 4
>gain 8 mmr
Lol
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>>127233321

Is the general so dead, people don't even put an ounce of effort into their bait?
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>>127220349
His winrate is like 40%
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>>127218128
If you are one of those who love bragging about useless numbers.
If before the core is destroyed you use a constant healing ability like medic's beam, or the ults of malf and lilli (Not 100% sure it works with lilli), the numbers of total life healed will continue to go up while the vitory/defeat animation happens, so you can inflate your stats to enlarge your e-penis
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>>127220780
Harvest moon
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>don't even look at what the other team has picked so far
>pick nova
feels good man
usually the match is done under 15 mints with our team victorious
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>>127233894
My nigga, i started to re-play fomt and i just started the second year, mary best girl
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>>127228476
I do too>>127228619
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>>127234072
For me it's a tie between Mary and that girl with pink hair.

Used to love Karen but she is a slut

Also the queue times are so bad that I can do a full day in harvest moon while looking for a match
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>>127233170
No
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>>127233321
>muscle monsters
Wow.

What the fuck is your problem? Women aren't allowed to be strong, is that it? Are you saying women should just shut up and obey everyone else? What the fuck is your problem? It's 2016 already. Wake the fuck up. You disgust me!
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>>127233297
ok senpai I was going to retire but I will keep playing
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>>127234239
Girl with popuri is a big a slut as Karen. Elli is pure waifu

and mine
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>>127224568
what the fuck does Infest the catapult mean?

Am I missing something about infested drop?
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>>127233692
people here will always take the b8 regardless of how bad it is, just look at>>127234602
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>>127234938
One of zagara's talents at 7
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>>127235129
Oh
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>>127235129
Level 4 actually
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>>127234938
shit is INSANE
a single catapult hits with the strength of 5

you can clear the core's shields with like 2 hits from a single infested catapult
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>playing quickmeme
>our tyrande has 4k heals 20 minutes in
>check hotslogs
>634 games
>1100 rating

what? how? don't you get better as you play more?
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>>127235516
scratch that, a single hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5lyCKNfDfM

fucking christ, this is infest on 2 catapults, just look at the core, each hit does like 30% damage
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Blizzard please give us glass cannon for li-ming. Passive increases damage by 15% but lowers resistance and armor by 10%. Also make her a early free release if you get diablo season 5 character to 70.
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>>127235569
634 games with Tyrande or total? Problem with low MMR players they think they can play the OP heroes to the same success
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>>127235721
Greymane - Jan 12th
Li-ming - Feb 2nd
Tracer - Feb 23rd
Samuro (OC Warcraft 3 Blademaster) - Mar 15th
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>>127235864

total. still... you should have at least figured out her healing mechanism by this point.
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I'm disappointed I can't filter heroes by entering <5 or <9 or something. Get on that shit Bnet
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For the record, the MMR you have in normals do carry over to ranked yes?

Guess if you were good enough to begin with you can skip grinding from bronze
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>>127236410
You mean QM?
Because no, there is QM MMR and HL MMR
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>>127235319
Oh shit, i'm sorry.
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>>127236531
QM yes.

Though, your initial HL MMR is judged based on your QM MMR and placements or...purely placements?
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>>127236540
sorry for what?
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>>127235864

further investigation reveals they player has a lvl 20 nova.

it all makes sense now!
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>>127236640
No, your MMR starts somewhere in the middle (around 2k IIRC). You move up and down a lot depending on your first 100 matches or so.
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double mage comp, yay or nay?
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>>127237062
Nay
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>>127237062
1 Mage + 1 AutoAttacker

this way your entire comp can't be countered by a single Sylvanas arrow or even Malf silence
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>>127220780
i want to fuck that dragon
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>towers of shit
>fighting for an altar
>entire enemy team on low HP and clumped up
>falstad uses blast
>zeratul VPs them, blinks to altar and starts capping
>he is immediately interrupted and killed by the enemies zagara hydralisk
>we lost
>i tell him he can't cap with VP because of zagara
>"yes i can"
>he does this twice more
we literally lost the game because of that piece of shit zeratul, if we ASKED him to VP everytime the enemies were dying, he'd fail

>muh tactic is amazing and always works
fucking autism
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>>127150049
Is Brightwing even worth owning?
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>>127238815
not in this meta
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>>127238894
dontwannalrntojohanna.mp4
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>>127238970
bro what?
johanna was 2 months ago


it's all diablo now
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>>127226562
Not when you have a 4 level disadvantage because that team is so easy to push out of 1 lane. And if they send chogall or whoever over to help the lane that got pushed out then they are missing exp in another lane, forcing aba to body soak, which vs any comptotent team makes him a free kill.
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>>127236748
1700 is starting MMR.
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>tfw no naked skins for female heroes
they would literally quadrupled the skin sales.. haha skin sales
>>
>yesterday, win 6 straight HL games
>today, lose 4 straight HL games
have i found my definitive rank (6)?
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>>127238518
Unless they changed something, VP doesnt last long enough to cap altars anyway.
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>>127240492
i was gonna say this, i learned the hard way
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>>127240492
i honestly wish i wouldn't get silenced for whispering and telling him just how much a fucking retard he is
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>>127240815
That Overwatch art doesn't look great.
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>>127240815
this was for blizzcon, man why did they bringed linkin park over was beyond me, i guess they really went edge-in with the legion update
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Do you like even get exps for not being useless cunt and having lots of exps in the game? It seems to me like you get lvl exp based only on how long the match was
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>>127240315
There are not that many females in this game suitable for sexy latex/half-naked outfits. Right now it's Nova, upcomming Tracer and maybe Widow from Overwatch if they are going to add her. And we still have no dragon aspects from WoW, maybe some day we will get Alexstrasza as well. But desu I'm happy that they are not turning females in this game into some sort of sluts like in other moba games.
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the reason why this game is dead is because of the lack of quality waifus. look at what league has.
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>>127241023
whoever drew these two has a real bad grasp of what makes a face attractive
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>>127241197
It's bases on total team exp, which is your team level at the end of the game. This game does not reward players for their personal contribution like top exp, top kills etc.
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>>127242091
>every female has to appeal to my desire to fuck anything with a vagina
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>>127242091
but anon they're trying to appeal to muh grill gamers not to your dick
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>>127242104
And that is why it's dying with tiny playerbase
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>>127242091
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>>127242345
>>127242364
when did the sjws arrive?
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>>127241710
Not turning them into sluts? Hahaha are you serious? Most of the female outfits are skimpy as fuck. I don't think tyrande is even wearing any panties
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>>127242569
>be strong purple wimmin of ancient warrior race
>rides a nightsaber tiger
>calls the fucking stars to fall on my enemies
>puny human wimmins arrive
>WEAR PANTIES OMG

fucking americans
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>>127242345
>>127242364
overwatch is going to sell millions based of this hyper energetic giggly chick alone

if Overwatch showcased an ugly girl as the main hero, it wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the attention

gtfo with your sjw bullshit
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>>127242909
but anon nobody knows or cares about overwatch.

If it was showcased by a Nova clone on the other hand, the hype and fap would be off the charts
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>>127242909
Pretty sure people lost a lot of hype for that from the beta. Most people I saw went crazy on it for like 4 days and then went meh.
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>>127242435
>anyone who prefers to have interesting characters over low quality softcore porn in video games is le sjw boogeyman

>>127242909
>if Overwatch showcased an ugly girl as the main hero, it wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the attention
i agree 100% m80, don't know who you're bringing it up. just because i don't care about lunara's sopping wet doe cunt having a pretty face doesn't mean i'm some SJW #HAES whale who donates to sarkeesian's patreon
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>>127243518
People are retards and think "not wanting to be treated as a horny 13-year-old = obviously an SJW"
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>>127243397
yeah, but that's because the gameplay itself was boring as fuck

the initial hype was generated because of a single cinematic trailer featuring
1 - british mcgiggletits
2 - edgelord dark (with dual shotguns)
3 - sexy evil french sniper chick
4 - a badass gorilla named Winston
i don't recall the cinematic featuring manface missiletits

hell, the Heroes of the Storm animation featured 2 of the sexiest females in the Blizzard universe, Nova (with her skin tight ghost op suit) and Kerrigan (need i say any more?)

sex sells, and it's a good thing. imagine the cringe if you had to load up a game and each time you started it, you saw a picture of this because hurr durr i'm a real gamer gurls
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>>127243518
But Luanara actually has a good face in game. It's just the art that's terrible.
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>>127243787
As much as it seems weird to agree with, this anon has a point.
Until something more enticing than tits and ass is found to rake in the plebs, there's not much more to it.
It should be noted that the cinematic was pretty damn good though - even if it wasn't for the highlighted characters.
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>>127243787
It's actually kind of funny that in each trailer they are hyping up this good vs evil thing and then in game anybody can be on any team.

I guess having it any other way would have two people that play a lot alike one being good and one being evil and then they would need a lot more Heroes but just seems strange.
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>>127243518
>anyone who prefers to have interesting characters over low quality softcore porn in video games is le sjw boogeyman

>interesting means you have to be buttfuck ugly

wow
so are you saying attractive women can't be interesting too?
this isn't a fucking game where you min max attractiveness and interesting-ness you fucking retard
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>>127243397
Hype died because blizzard fucked up the beta, they promised equal chance to all people subbed to the closed beta and then only selected known streamers to get into the beta and very very few of actual ordinary people and went full jew with invites ever only letting very dew more people in, reportedly thinking their "You can't play LOL!" approach will make people want to play more because they will crave what they can't have.. but instead people watched the live sterams for a week, got burned out on the game from the streams alone and never came back. Blizzard is so incredibly bad gaining consumers for their games it's hilarious. Wow only succeeded because it was good and pretty much only decent choice back at the time. But now the marked has lots of good games and the blizzard is fucked
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>>127244295
>interesting means you have to be buttfuck ugly
Who are you quoting?
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>>127243787
>imagine the cringe if you had to load up a game and each time you started it, you saw a picture of this because hurr durr i'm a real gamer gurls

For fucks sake, when they are going to remove this shit from bnet?
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>>127244327
But anon for only 40 bucks you to can play Team Fortress 2 Incredible's Edition.
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>>127244327
but sad fact is despite fucking up the beta and showing clear favoritism to streamers and "community leaders" (btw, did you guys know that the mods of the leddit overwatch group got in so that they'd be able to "better filter and convey the excitement of overwatch" and ultimately what got onto the subreddit's front page?)

despite all that, people are still going to buy it because Blizzard and the three chick Tracer, Mercy and Widowmaker. then Blizzard also added Zayra for the 'strong tumblr womyns' and Mei for the chubbychasers

but whatever, i don't really give a fuck
as long as there are sexy chicks and good r34, i'll just take my wank and be happy
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>Tomb of Spiders game last over 40mins
>just barely manage to carry the team to victory as Nazeebo with a battletoads build
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>>127244771
It's not nice to lie on the internet.
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>>127244252
Nobody played normal mode in dota where you were forced to pick heroes from only Sentinel or Scourge depending which side you were on.
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>>127244327
Or hype died because ppl were expecting to see some nice F2P fps with purchasable heroes and skins, but instead they are getting fucking enchanced team fortress copy for fucking 39,99$.
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>>127244704
blizzdrones will buy, but the sales will be nothing compared to the numbers they could have if they done the beta properly
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>>127245005
Pretty sure they didn't release trailer after trailer hyping up that battle in a custom game mode.
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>>127243518
>I can't find a character interesting unless she's unattractive
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>>127233321
>and all the females are either muscle monsters or porn stars.
>Johanna and Jaina don't exist
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>>127244934
>implying anything doesn't go in quick meme
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>>127245424
It's not nice to lie on the internet.
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>>127245105
YOu know what the best thing is? There will still be skins and heroes locked behind a paywall even after you buy the game
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>>127245762
They said every hero after release is going to be free. So just skins.
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>another really odd qm match. me as murky with
>nova, thrall, nazeebo and lunara, imo quite
>disfavored vs k't, jaina, gazlowe, nova and
>hammer.
>in the beginning, the game already
>started promising with lunara afk and thrall
>not interested in helping with the shrines
>at all, so the first shrines were lost easily.
>my team was quickly 2 levels behind because
>everyone else didn't bother to soak at all.
>i really didn't see any point in continuing this
>shit, but my leaver penalty is already too high to
>justify quitting one more time.
>on the third shrine, the others manage to wipe to my
>helpless team of retards somehow.
>now this was a good opportunity for my
>crack team to overextend and get themselves
>exterminated, but somehow we won and i wonderd why.
>nova, as it turned out, racked up almost 30 kills on her own!
>and as usual read the first letter of each sentence only
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>>127232374
why can't everyone on vg be masters. i wanna wanna play with good people.
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>>127245130
i think it's an insult to call it a 'beta'
>it's a coincidence that all these popular streamers just happened to get in!
>look at us, we even intentionally chose NOT to invite 3-4 streamers we know are highly critical of us to show that we're not just picking and choosing which streamers to invite!
it was a pr stunt, pure and simple


remember the mini fiasco Redeye (some washed up Starcraft caster back from the Brood War days) started when he publicly revealed on his twitter the Blizzard emails about getting him approved as a streamer for Overwatch?

>>127233321
i don't fucking play a game for realistic representation of 'regular' anybodies, male or female.

>rexxar with chest muscles so large it'd would physically hinder his movement
>Raynor and Tychus, both able bodied men unable to compete on even footing without the need for a 5 ton powered suit
>the literal devil
>thrall , carrying a hammer made of solid granite that would be impossible to wield from its sheer weight, but he swings it around like a tissue

if i wanted to play a game with a more realistic representation of anything, i'd go play the sims

i don't fucking go to watch an action movie and then bitch about how there isn't enough diversity in the cast, it's a fucking action, you go there to see shit explode and guns being shot

fuck off with your sjw bullshit
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>It's an "Abathur stays afk in the fountain the entire game and does a mine build" episode
>985 exp contributed after 20 minutes
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>>127245207
never said that, try a different strawman :^)
>>
>>127245962

Why would you respond seriously to an obvious bait post?
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>>127245361
>implying porn stars don't wear full platemail and robes

some day your balls will drop friend.
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>>127245901
FUCK
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>>127246135
It's really rare especially in QM, but when you play with an Abathur that actually knows how to play Abathur it's pretty nice.

Though that just might be because you are just happy he's not completely useless.
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>>127246143
then why do you have a problem with characters being attractive?

what the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>127246401
they don't have to be interesting to be attractive, but if they're interesting yet unattractive, then it's just SJW pandering obviously
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>>127246401
not every single character has to be attractive. hots already has plenty of pandering heroes. let lunara be an ugly doe cunt instead of crying about her having a witch face
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>>127246401
leave the sjw troll alone, they feed off bullshit like this, it's their entire lifestyle

stir up trouble and pretend about some non-existant issue being a problem in the world, and then eat all the shit that gets flung around by people who take the bait

it's the next step in the evolution of liberal fuckjobs who take womyns studies and teach shit like "herstory" instead of 'history', despite the fact that the 'his' in 'history' isn't actually the root word of it. it's a make believe problem that privilieged upper middle class white fucks create because they don't have anything to bitch about
>>
>>127246627
But she's not ugly. Just in the artwork is she ugly. Her in game model is fine.
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>>127246730
this
sjws can't even get their story right

lunara's model is fine, her art is shit

lunara isn't an interesting character BECAUSE her art is shit. any retard trying to make this claim doesn't know wtf they're talking about
>>
>>127246683
>making fun of some guy for being butthurt about lunara's ugly face is the exact same as womyns studies teaching "herstory" instead of 'history'
calm down anon
>>127246730
>>127246841
her ugly ass witch face art is more entertaining than her boring as fuck in game model face
>>
>AFK training while cleaning.
>Towers of Doom.

I even hate this map even when I'm not playing it. The AI wins so quick you barely get any XP.
>>
>>127245962
overwatch isn't beta, it is a finished game which is getting minor finishing touches.
If blizzard unveiled a true beta overwatch it would looked like a game from /agdg/ which is what a true fucking beta is and everyone would laughed at blizz and dumped the game, because people are retarded as well
>>
>>127247175
>afk training

w-what why?
>>
thoughts on Sylvanas? i have a very high winrate with her, high skill ceiling and fun
>>
>>127247261
she's incredible boring to play

the raynor of specialists
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>>127247260
Leveling up characters for that sweet lvl 9 Gold or to get Master Skins.
>>
>>127247261
anon 40% is not high.
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>>127245941
im in masters friend
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>>127247261
>high skill ceiling
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>>127247261
>High Skill Ceiling.

Anyways she's in the category where in most games she doesn't help all that much but also doesn't hurt the team.
>>
Could we please get a "don't FUCKING do boss" ping please? Because I assume the fucktards who ignored "Don't do boss, we can't risk them stealing it" must've had everyone muted.
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>>127248457
>Get one kill early game.
>Nova runs in front of boss and starts pinging it like crazy. Even starts attacking it.
>>
>Any hero
>Person picks seemingly random talents
>ask them about it
>'I want to be able to buff everything my character does so that I have some strengths here and there all around'
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>>127248614
>shittalking about talents during the game
>ever
>>
im tired of being alive desu
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>>127248819
haha me2 desu
>>
>ANYONE ORDERED A ONE MAN MEMEING CREW?
What are the hero select lines you don't want to hear during your team's turn to pick?
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just bought the C9 mount AMA
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>>127249032
>let's go 5 assasins
>i know how to play gazlowe
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What master skins do you guys own?

And which one is your favorite?
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>>127249461
>buying master skins
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Anyone on eu want to do a quick qm with chogall? I need to get my gall to lvl 5 for them rupees
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>>127249461
Artanis. Next up Lunara or Tyrande.
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>>127249461
only Sylv, i bought skins for a few heroes tho
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>>127249461
Anub (favorite even if it's crappy) rehgar and ETC, i was gonna get gazlowe but i bought azmo instead
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>>127249919
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I like to affectionately refer to this as the 'RTS' build.
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>>127250036
senpai notice me
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>>127250196
xD
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>>127250196
I like to affectionately refer to this as 'BRONZE'.
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>be tyrande
>have diablo on the team
>he always uses charge but not overpower
>tell him to do it
>no answer / retarded rebuttal
>win anyway because we have tyrande and diablo
what is up with these retards? how hard is it to target someone, press Q and then E?
>they hold on to their E
>they try to use it to peel
>it doesn't work because the enemies are slowing / ccing him
gee this is so much better than getting a guaranteed kill on a high priority target
i swear, today's diablo players are the same shitters that used to instalock anub and miss all their stuns
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>>127243787
well I do see that every time I start up hots and thats why I don't anymore
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>>127250494
>get matched with 2.7k mmr shitters
>oh boy here we go
>other team gets tyrande
>they start bitching
>game starts were winning convincingly
>tyrande isnt doing anything correctly took starfall lands 0 stuns heals herself doesnt scout with owl
>suddenly team gets wandering alone
>they keep trying to engage other team alone
>when we get the terror they attack alone and get blown up only dropping 1 pot
>they blame tyrande when she doesnt mark or attack the plant
>eventually lose because we never have more than 3 people alive at one time
>bg tyrande op
I hope Tyrande gets nerfed soon so these retards fuck off
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http://www.chairleague.com/

Anyone else interested in signing up? Do the old /vg/ Extreme Meme Team
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>draft starts
>your team first picks and instalocks Artanis
>enemy team first two picks: Raynor, Kael / Tyrande / Diablo
why?
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>>127250494
Well Diablo is the character for people who can't hit Muradin's skill shot.
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>>127250840
>letting others play the most OP hero in the game by far
try not to
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>>127250840
Blizzard said they are looking into changes for her. So I'd expect next patch to have some nerfs. They should also make cleanse do what it used to do. Anything to stop this stun until they die meta.
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>>127250851
don't wanna play with anyone lower than 3k tbqh
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>>127251321
>Anything to stop this stun until they die meta.
Divine shield
Sanctification
Cleanse (which still works very well)
Relentless
Heroes with unstoppable properties
Void prison

still as they always have shit on stuns/burst teams quit bitching
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>>127250196
Going to try this
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>>127250851
>http://www.chairleague.com/
I would sign up, but i want to win once and never play with you guys again.
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>>127250851
>literally reddit

Actually might be fun to see /vg/ shitters vs reddit shitters
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>>127251879
Cleanse doesn't work nearly as well because you use it and then get stunned right away again. Divine Shield, Sanctification, VP are all ults and aren't going to be up all the time or even all that impactful out side of team fights which is when you mostly get fucked. Or how about if they target that person before they can even get the ult off. Besides if you have Sanc or VP that means you have Tyrael or Zeratul which already puts you behind.

There is a reason why Tyrande is seen in like 87% of games in masters and almost every game even outside of masters. It's like you are fucking ignoring what every game has become.
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>>127252638
My bad I said 87% when I meant 97% of games.
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Its a good fucking thing this game doesn't have dota 2's stun lengthes because god help us and our ever so rigorously fast paced combat
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Ugh. we just go our boss stolen by a Zag's Maw and Murky. Fuck, they were down 3 dudes and still fucking got the boss. Christ.
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what was blizzard thinking with adding that massive heal to shadowstalk
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>>127252984
How do I unsubscribe from bronze league?
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>>127253178
"i want to see that purple ass in every game
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>>127253178
One of the big complaints before it was Tyrande couldn't solo heal. So they did that so she could. Which is fine actually, the problem is the cooldown is 50secs and with Battle Mom she has it up at all times.
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>>127252638
whatever man you can ignore me and keep losing to bronze tyrandes while i continue to beat 4k mmr tryhard tyrande mains
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>>127252638
cleanse is fucking worthless vs the diablo tyrande combo. even if you cleanse the moment Q his, diablo's E will still get you
if the target got behind diablo, it's already too late

if it's a squishy and the enemies have anything that can be called a brain, it's dead even with uther's entire healing on it AND protective shield

divine shield is the only response to someone getting targeted, and what luck, they just increased the CD with the last balance patch *slowclap*

both tyrande and diablo do so much fucking damage, early game they kill anyone with their combo by themselves.

they need to nerf diablo's damage a little and force tyrande to choose between healing and dealing damage. she should have 2 choices at level one, either she keeps her current damage on lunar blaze and access to focused attack but her healing is 50% less effective OR she keeps her current healing, gets access to an (improved?) protective shield but her lunar blaze damage is cut by 75%

ideally there should be a 3rd trait that focuses on increasing owl damage and adds CD reduction to all owl hits, but also nerfs her healing and lunar blaze damage (just not as much)
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>>127251879
>The light has not abandoned you, man.
>Pubs can't into teamwork and awareness
>Fair enough, their team has 5 stuns and you only broke one though.
> >focusing the tank
> >focusing the tank
>"Z-Zeratul is still good, r-right guys?
Only Uther can save your Valla from a Tyronede gank squad. Cleanse is okay but most of the time stopping the hero for 1/3 of a second or however much you need to cleanse is enough to follow up with more cc and stomp them flat
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>>127253403
not all heroes are meant to be able to solo heal
if she wants to be a whole team solo healer, destroy rest of her kit then too
look at malf if you wanna see how shit you need to make her then
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>>127253482
>gank squad
STOP
OVER
EXTENDING

STOP FACE CHECKING BUSHES
DO NOT MOVE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE VISION
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>>127253413
She has a 62% win rate in Masters. Her win rate actually goes down with how much MMR you lose and even then it only goes down to 50%.
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>>127253678
>DO NOT MOVE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE VISION
dude this is hots not dota or league
there is literally no wards to buy
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>>127253554
Malf sucks because the current meta is all about stunning and bursting and his heals can't deal with it.

It's the same reason why LiLi fell off huge.
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>>127253678
get a load of this faggot

like you've never seen a diablo charge people right in front of their gate and kill them anyway
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>>127253845
its only about stunning and bursting because scaling changes ruined everything
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>>127253678
You die in front of your towers. Muradin jumps at you and then throws a hammer and you are dead because the towers do shit for damage now.
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>>127253997
It wouldn't be nearly as bad without Tyrande. The big reason it's a thing is because of how far she can hit her stun from. If it was Uther it wouldn't be nearly as good because he has to be right next to them.

Kael would still be a big thing, but he's been a big thing since he released.
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>>127253554
That was one of the biggest complaints was getting Tassa or Tyrande as your support while QMing. They addressed it.
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>>127254003
>Muradin
stop right there faggot, you can easily dodge that stun if you're not bronze
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>>127254230
And then get hit with Tyrande or Kael because you jumped to the side instead of getting behind the gate and die anyways because of Mark.
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>>127254194
Tassa is still at that role
You cannot balance for making QM "be more fair", QM is already decided by the shitty comps the matchmaking might give you

You will still get stuck with Brightwings and Illidians
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This is going to be fun
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>>127254332
Bronze, the post, volume 2
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>>127254736
Bronze is actually where Tyrande has the lowest win rate. So your more likely not to see her down there.
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>>127254882
Bronzie here, can confirm.
Most of the Tyrandes you find here can't even land the stun and they put hunter's mark on you when nothing is going to hit you
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>>127253852
>>127254003
lets say you are against a tyrande muradin diablo kael kerrigan rape squad on cursed hallow
you go to mid lane while the rest of your team fucks off
now instead of running to the red side of the map you wait behind your gate
now you wait to see what the enemy does
if you only see 3 enemies on your map a gank is coming
if you see 4 you should be safe
if your dumbass teammate died to a gank that means the ganksquad is coming for you now
if you dont see all 5 enemies on the map at any time it means back off
if you want to check a bush dont just assume the enemy is there
only check bushes with long range spells like baneling barrage or else you will put yourself in muradin, kerrigan, or diablo's stun range

this concept is known as map awareness once you figure it out maybe you will escape bronze league
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>>127255501
Jokes on you. Kerrigan stuns you behind gate and kills you anyway.Also if the entire team just sits behind a gate that means they get free push and have the advantage. Which means less XP for you and less Map Presence as well.

You get fucked even if no one dies, just because you were worried about Tyrande.

What a great meta this is.
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>>127255813
kerrigan should never land a stun on you behind a wall/gate

they dont get a push unless they reveal themselves

if 5 faggots are in your lane then you win the other two lanes

if 2 red team faggots hide the entire time use long range spells to find them
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>>127256381
>winning lanes
go back to LoL you shitlord, you can tell all your friends how you reached platinum in hots
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>>127256381
>Sidenote make sure you are always using a hero with a long range spell
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>>127256381
They need to roam with the whole team. Just Tyrande and the Tank. So that means one person in each lane pushing it. God help you if they have Zagara or Sylvanas.
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I'm on the loading screen and the level 8 jaina on our team is @ 20% for like 5 minutes, what do other than cry
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>>127256649
Don't need to roam.
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>be zagara
>towers of shit
>all I do is throw my pod at the altar
>enemies ignore my minions and they keep trying to cap
>they get killed
wouldn't have thought this shit would work in diamond league lmao
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guys gazlowe is viable now
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>>127256381
this is not lol
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>>127250347
Azmodan is always bronze, at least that build is fun
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>>127256817
my build btw
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>play like complete and utter shit
>win
>play flawlessly
>lose

wew lad
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>>127257382
i never realized it was possible to fuck up zagara talents
but there we have
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>>127256547
>getting tower exp isnt winning a lane
>>127256587
>sidenote if you draft poorly you may lose
>>127256649
if just tyrande and a warrior are roaming then when you see them gank top push bottom vice versa
if they gank mid watch which way they go after mounting
you can also countergank tyrande

if this is too hard to grasp try using scouting drones, zagara's trait, or clairvoyance
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>>127257684
>Taking Scouting Drone or Clairvoyance.
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>>127257382
lad...
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>>127257382
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>>127257881
>bronze players think its impossible to not get ganked
>bronze players refuse to use anything other than popular master league talents even if its good in bronze league
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>>127258168
getting good is a lot more effective than one or two wrong talents
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>>127256817
everything below masters is bronze
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>>127258168
No you just took two completely useless talents on levels where there is a much better talent just to try, try and counter Tyrande.

Think about that.

Heroes with Scouting Drone:
>Raynor
>Medic
>Malf
>Tychus

The only one that might be feasible there is Medic.

Heroes with Clairvoyance:
>Kael
>Uther
>Murky
>Khazarim

You aren't going to take on any of them either.


So tell me which hero you taking them on?
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>>127257382
>fury of the bronze.
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Bets?
being last pick in like 5 games in a row sure is fun
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>>127258883
Is there a brozie name for every single talent?
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>>127258751
>you just took two completely useless talents
if you are incapable of surviving without those talents they are not useless
>counter Tyrande.
having zero map awareness has nothing to do with Tyrande

btw gall has a unique scouting drone variant and rehgar has a unique clairvoyance variant
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>>127259323
You just picked Cho'Gall into Tyrande. Enjoy your lost.
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>>127259150
You let them get 4 of 5 Important Heroes. You are fucked.
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>johanna picks falling sword
>she uses it to escape
>she says we have enough stuns
>i double stun enemy jaina as uther
>muradin stuns her too
>johanna still didn't user her ult to finish her off
>she complains that i should use double heal on kael
>kael wasn't even in that fight
fuck me, some games you just can't win
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>>127253482
Zeratul is still good. Just a new play style is needed. Glaurung is 85%+ winrate with zeratul.
>>
>Falling Sword now has increased ranged
>You land after 0.5 and can no longer move it
>Damage increased by 25%
>When knockup ends, targets are slowed by 20% for 2 seconds
Falling Sword fixed?
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>>127260026
That's terrible too
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>>127260004
>Win percent: 80%
>Games played in the last 30 days: 10
L E G I T
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>>127260026
>Suppression Beam with better CC and damage but shit radius instead of a better Storm Bolt
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>>127260026
Isn't that just stage dive?
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>>127260195
I'm talking about his zeratul only account. That's his main. Ungoliant I think is his zeratul account.
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>>127260513
You mean turning a bad ult into a good ult? It sure as fuck is.
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>>127260659
>>127260195
http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/MatchHistory?PlayerID=1396031
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>>127260026
As long as blessed shield has any stun attached to it and under 70s cd it will always be better.
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>>127260026
You can't fix it. They are trying to emulate Diablo 3 where Falling Sword is garbage.
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Anyone here dont have chogalll? I need 2 win to get rid of this special event quest
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>>127260779
>Winning on a smuf account
....Woah...the power of...of zeratul....
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>>127261115
He's 4k on his smurf.

At 4k, won last 12/15 games as zera, 7 in a row.
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>>127261115
I have yet to see one vg player smurf and win 70-90% of their games. All I see are smurfs that can't even break 3k.
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>>127261115
Like what else is there to go off. If I refer to his main account 70% you'll just say "hurr durr it includes when zera was op" so I show new account after nerfs and "hurr durr smurf that's higher mmr than main"
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>>127261540
he's only played 10 games at 4k mmr with zeratul
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>>127261540
>>127261792

I also think Zeratul is still very strong, but that guy's MMR is not impressive since he's cheating.
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>>127260779
not bad desu senpai
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people say you can cast on self using ALT + ability, but holding alt does nothing for me. i can't find it in options or hotkey settings anywhere. how do i enable this?
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>>127261859
How is he cheating look at his friends. All high mmr
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>>127262074
Your keyboard is broke bruv lmao
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>>127262074
>playing with ghosting issues
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>>127261812
>3900 isn't exactly the same
>he thinks there is enough 4k players to have 4k games that don't include him every time he queues

Potato
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>>127262356
yeah

and your <2k mmr isn't 3k mmr either bronze shitter
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>>127262290
my keyboard has full key rollover so it's not being blocked by anything. i can witness both keys being pressed simultaneously in programs that monitor keypresses, it's just that it doesn't activate the self-cast function in hots
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>>127262454
>get btfo
>resort to ad hominem
Like clockwork
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>>127262182
He created a new account in order to abuse the mmr bonus you get for winning your first games. How is not that not cheating? He's an autistic loser who cares too much about 3rd party mmr.
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help me anons, I can't help being sexually attracted to luna
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>>127262518
yeah and your feeding is because of lag bro :^)
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>>127262547
Actually he is a pro player looking for a team because he just left cognitive. He constantly complains about HL being a waste of time and wanting to get back to scrims
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>>127262580
Fucking normie
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>>127262580
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>>127249461
Tassadar and Li Li. Working on Chen right now. Almost rank 10. I want the purple/gold one because funky.

I do like ETC's Black/Gold Master and Tassadar's Master skin as well.
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does this casual game even have a pro scene?
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>>127262547
Are you retarded
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>>127259598
We won that game.
We were losing hard all game and they were about to destroy our core but they stacked up but then based Valla vaulted in, landed a 4 man Rain of Vengeance, I followed up with Apocalypse, Jaina dropped her cock ring and we killed them all. Except Kharazim. He palmed himself even though he had time and was in range to palm any of the useful heroes.
Sonya and I went top because they lost the top keep earlier, BW and Valla were dead and Jaina continued to be retarded and pushed bot.
We found monk trying to do mercs, killed him and then broke their core.

I'm pretty sure Jaina mains Gaz. She hasn't been in a single teamfight. Even at the end, after Valla and I stunned their entire team, she had to wobble over from the other side of our base to drop Ring.
/blog
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>>127262613
no idea why you mention that, but i found the issue anyways. the selfcast mechanic is hardcoded to only function with the original ability keybindings. you have to go into the ini and change the selfcast functionality to make it work with different bindings
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>>127262904
why draw eyes when you can just make them GLOW
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>>127262674
>inb4 >hots pro
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>>127250196
I've done that. It's bretty good on maps like Blackheart.
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>>127263172
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>>127263132
You're really lucky she was too stupid to save one of her abilities for the beam
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