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2016 a shit Edition

>Can the game be considered a full release?
No, for all intents and purposes, KSP should be considered still in early access state. The game is nowhere near being able to stand on its own legs both from a gameplay perspective (career mode is definitely not ready and balanced) and a stability perspective. There are still major bugs and memory leaks that shouldn't exist on a finished game.

> Are there big issues with the game?
Bugs and instability are still real and frequent problems, as with every product still in beta. Ask in thread for details.

> What are the devs doing?
Modified versions of popular mods are being included in the stock game while the game engine is being upgraded to its latest version. The next major update (1.1) is supposedly going to bring a complete overhaul of the GUI, be 64bit friendly, have a refined physics/heating/aero model and generally perform better. An external team with heavily questionable experience (Flying Tiger Entertainment) is being tasked with porting the game to PS4, XboxOne and Wii U. They seem to be rushing for an imminent deadline and they are also working on a version of the game that will be obsolete in a few weeks/months.

> Should I buy the game?
KSP is very enjoyable at first, then it usually needs to be modded to retain some sort of longevity, but doing so may dramatically increase the instability of the game. You will be very familiar with the word "Oops!".The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics. The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you should not purchase the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.

>What can I do to turn the tables ?
Write your critique and feedbacks into the /KSPG/ official collaborative document. See: ow.ly (slash) WrnTt
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Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Dev Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HlLACH4LUQ

/kspg/'s (outdated) modlist and FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/vrFCBFYk

NEW MODLIST. Old FAQ is still retained above.
http://pastebin.com/vM6CE7YJ

>Game site
http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/download.html

>KSP mods
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/34-add-on-releases/
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/36-add-on-development/
http://kerbalstuff.com/

>Flags
http://imgur.com/a/lIHNS#0

>Party-approved rendezvous and docking tutorials
http://imgur.com/a/S3Qxf
http://i.imgur.com/PBuWyVx.jpg

>Some useful calculators
http://alterbaron.github.io/ksp_aerocalc/
http://ksp.olex.biz/

>Official forum
http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/

>Hotkeys for operating your craft that are never mentioned anywhere else.
http://pastebin.com/vLmE1QbY

>Official /kspg/ fan fiction
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10607988/1/Structural-Failure
http://pastebin.com/HK7Qd6if

>List of IRL launches.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/tracking/index.html

>View from the ISS:
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/

>Race Into Space
http://www.raceintospace.org

>Original BARIS for DOSBox scaling and filters and shit
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/183/Buzz+Aldrins+Race+into+Space.html

BARIS, Orbiter, Space Engine, OpenTTD, Bonnie Tyler, Kek, Take On Mars, ULA posting, TRUMP 2016, and planes are also welcome ITT.
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I need a pen
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I am so fucking hungover
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2016
>ULA declares bankrupcy
>America builds wall
>1.1 maybe

Not a shit year tbqh
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can't wait for more thread wars when MAN wakes up

maybe we'll breach the hyperautism boundary
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>>127141840
Can't wait for the first string of deleted threads of the year
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Good thread, too bad most of us are too hungover to dick with it.

I had a great new years, but didn't get any... how about you /kspg/?
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>>127142089
i sealclubbed in tribes and improved my self confidence by browsing reddit
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>>127141840
I'm right here faggot.

Do you not underst a nd that you're the only one who feels this way?

Stop bringing it up and creating fake drama. We are thoroughly inoculated against your bullshit.

Let's talk about false paradigms.
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fresh new years memes
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Sage this thread, wait until the old one hits bump, and then use the OP text we all voted on and agreed upon.
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>>127142803
oh god damnit

saging. he'll bump it though. It'll be fun to watch him try to fake conversation
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>>127143027
pls sage snek

do you know how to sage

and >2016 a shit
edition

I knew none of us really felt that way

let's just make new bred now
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>>127143173
Just hold up. I have a new thread ready, and will make it as soon as the old one hits bump limit.
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>>127143245
ok

need stewards
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Oh God this bullshit again
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>>127143832
>>127143832
>>127143832
Real thread. Remember to sage fake threads if you must post.
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>>127142924
>if i say someone samefags then it will look like I'm not samefagging
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So what is the right thread?
What's the difference?
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>>127144770
the thread you posted in has literally a single word difference, between "purchase" and "pirate". the reason we moved is because that thread was made by a cuck that threw a temper tantrum when we voted to change the wording, and we don't want to enable him.

good job bumping it though cunt
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Whatever the real thread is, remember to contribute here
http://www.writeurl.com/text/bnvciyy22cn73zyqi0xw/bh5rn098dcndoqnddwv3/m3wr237l9wqh06oeuqd2

I'll be saging both threads just in case
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THIS IS SHILL THREAD

REAL THREAD HERE
>>126937494
>>126937494
>>126937494

SAGE THIS THREAD
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>>127145138
Oh..didn't realize the other was gone already
Nevermind
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s a ge
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>>127145497
>saging with a picture

It's not like I care what thread we are going to use, but pics always bump a thread.
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>>127145609
good to know, but you didn't sage.

new thread when
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>>127145497
Downvoted and reported
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>>127145737
>and
>an
>a
a
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>>127145691
Like I said I don't care about the thread, the other thread is over the limit and this one is the only one currently up so I'm going to use this until everyone goes into another one.

If there was a way to stay neutral, i'do it
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>>127145905
Reported & -1 to your rep
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>>127145997
>Reported
>or
>a
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>>127145923
Scruffy is back trying to police us and our narrative - I was just hit for a Global 3 ban request for making the new thread.

Sage this thing into the ground.
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>>127146402
Again, I don't care, do what you have to do.

I don't really understand what the problem is with this thread but whatever, you guys will handle whatever mess is happening
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>>127146402
>announcing ban evasion

Way to keep janny out of this, genious
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>>127146953
Luckily, a mod decided that posting a thread isn't on the same level of posting CP, and I didn't actually get hit with one.
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NEW PROPOSAL

Put "TORRENT ONLY" in all caps closer to the top of the OP text.
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>>127147351
That will sure keep angry janny out
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Guys

Guys

What if we..
Like..

Stop being autistic about one word?
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>>127147691
a
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>>127147662
>>127147662
>>127147662

Stop forcing us to use your thread janny that's against the rules
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>>127140783

Delete this
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Bitcoin anon, thank you sooo much and happy new year.

-scatterer
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>>127151745

>>127151745

>>127151745

>>127151745

>>127151745
SAGE CURRENT
BUILD WALL
/KSPG/ 2016
A
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So, playing with TAC life support and USI Modular Kolonization mods, is there any way to obtain water from the Mun? It's the only missing fragment to have a self-sustaining colony on the planet.
Is there any way to mine water there?
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>>127152192
Doesn't TAC have converters for water?
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>>127152448
This is finite. You will eventually run out of water, im trying to have a colony that doesnt require me to send shit to it 24/7, for instance if it could mine more water from the Mun.

When using converters only some of waste water is turned to water. And only some of water is turned to waste water by Kerbals.
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>>127151815
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>>127152720
I haven't played the mod in a long time, but I remember there was a way to convert from external source like hydrogen+oxy that can be mined somehow.

Check the parts and check if the mun has those resources
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>>127150050
desu I'm really glad you like it, and I know it's in bad taste to grandstand, but I wanted to say that I did that because 2016 represents a chance for /kspg/ to be different.

Not radically different. Not tone policed (ahem), but instead a kinder, more reactive, more participatory /kspg/, both in the community-at-large and at home.

Not everyone will want this. Some will lose their shit when I post this, and some might agree but not say anything. I don't care about people agreeing with me, but I hope that as we kick off this new year we can both have the compassion to understand and allow many viewpoints while at the same time standing strong when a consensus begins to emerge.

Balancing that is hard, maybe impossible. But it's a noble goal to strive for. And I think it's something /kspg/ is capable of.

So thanks boys, and I hope the future holds much in store for this little general.

KSPG 2016

and career is a false paradigm
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>>127153145
How do i check if mun has those resources? And im playing science so i cant see all parts.
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>>127153345
>bragging about a donation
>writing the post in a way that makes you easily recognisable

You had a chance to say everything you said without also saying you did the donation.

You are really the worst kind of attention seeker
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>>127153829
he's a mentally ill attention whore, and if you're the one that spends all day baiting him you're literally the same thing he is
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>>127153523
You should check TAC's wiki to see the parts, you probably haven't unlocked them yet so you might not be able to use them anyway.

As for the mun's resources you use the stock scanner or a scanner that comes with one of the two mods, which might be locked too.

Sorry, I'm not updated on those mods so I can't really be precise
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>>127154224
a

>>127153829
a
>>127153894
a
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>>127153894
I don't give a shit about him but fuck me if my blood doesn't boil when someone makes a donation and waits for the thank you to go on with a fucking novel of a post where the first thing he says is that he did the donation.
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>>127154386
he has confirmed schizophrenia and probably aspergers too, don't let him get to you. he's not a fully functioning human so he can't help it.
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>>127154386
I did it after the third active general was deleted. Wanted to remind the janny he has no power over the actual community. It seems like you're mad. Are you mad?

So I spent some cash to shill the idea that career is a false paradigm. Try not to burst any blood vessels.
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>>127154503
and you had sex with my mom and I ate cotton candy out of hillary clintons asshole and I'm the creator of mechjeb and I once shot a pregnant woman to prove a point about career being a false paradigm, right?

Are you interested in becoming my official biographer?
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>>127154135
Didnt see anything of the sort.
I remember there being a part to extract water from the seas but thats it
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>>127154503
see what i mean? >>127154728
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>>127154813
Lad, I think he just proved his point.
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Later this year, the Weldenstein meme stellator will begin with hydrogen plasma testing. Truly a time to be alive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOInua-c18
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> NOTICE: A lot of yellowed stuff has been removed recently because it has been ignored for days, as per rules. It was not vandalism. If you feel your stuff has been unfairly deleted, don't just put it back here, say it on /kspg/ and find out why it was yellow in the first place.

Just came upon this in our doc. I suggest we put the wipe on schedule. Once a week sounds pretty obvious to me but since we like to argue for important shit, we shall vote :

http://strawpoll.me/6423893
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>>127154578
>I did it after the third active general was deleted. Wanted to remind the janny he has no power over the actual community.
Is this shit supposed to justify your attention seeking? What does it have to do with anything?

>Are you mad?
>So I spent some cash to shill the idea that career is a false paradigm. Try not to burst any blood vessels.
Yes I'm mad, you post in a way that makes it obvious who you are and you brag about a donation, you can go on all you want about your little career war but it doesn't change the fact that you could literally say every nice thing you said without talking about the donation and nothing of that post would have lost any value.

You are trying to fucking justify your attention seeking how fucking deluded can you be
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>>127155176
I paid good money to attention seek anon. Maybe you should get a job instead of making philanthropic donations in the form of clicking "delete"

>>127155150
My section has a note saying it will be tended to on Monday. Will my note be ignored?
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>>127154765
Maybe I'm confusing it with some other mod (could be universal storage, maybe?), but I remember there were two sets of converters for TAC: one converts stuff from waste products and the other converts it from other resources.

Check the mod thread on the forum to see if there is any info or a wiki
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>>127155386
Nice implications and paranoia you got there
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>>127155569
way to miss quints by 14 posts there

>>127155150
strawpolls are on hiatus anon it must be discussed here
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>>127155150
Once a week seems good to me, maybe we should do it on a Monday so everyone has a last chance to look at it in the weekend?
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>>127155970
Works for me. Then when devnotes come out we'll have a clean doc

as if that even mattered
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>>127155386
Well that's good one... I don't know anon. I guess we could start scheduling the wipe starting from monday 4th, that would let you the leisure to write your essay.


>>127155721

Ok. Anyway, my suggestion is just a suggestion. I was just wondering since until now the "wipe" thing has been applied from arbitrary, because I quote the rules : "If whoever wrote a yellow section ignores the discussion for too long (in days, not minutes), then go ahead and delete it unless someone says otherwise."

What is "days" ? Who decides how long "days" are ? There's a potential procedural flaw here.
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>>127155721
>strawpolls are on hiatus

Says who?
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>>127156129
There have been some anons that seem to think that spoofing dozens of votes is something that should be done. We've agreed for the time being that perhaps we just shouldn't use them.
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Which /kspg/ discussion topic is the most cancerous?

http://strawpoll.me/6424053
http://strawpoll.me/6424053
http://strawpoll.me/6424053
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>>127156047
any mention of the doc on the last squadcast ?
as if Turkey gives a shit
;_;
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>>127156092
I was the one who wiped stuff, I'm sorry if that looked arbitrary, it's just that that stuff has been clearly ignored for days and I thought a cleanup was necessary, I am all for a weekly deletion session anyway.

There is still the second most recent pastebin with all the deleted stuff if you want to retrieve it.
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>>127156319
he cancelled it

>>127154224
What rule is this post announcing the new permanent edition breaking?
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>>127156312
>http://strawpoll.me/6424053
hey anon I can spoof votes too.
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>>127156327
its ok anon. yellow stuff wasn't debated anymore, so in garbage it goes.
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>>127156541
what would even be the purpose of spoofing that poll? it has 7 votes
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>>127156312
I voted for Squad/doc/squadcast, but specifically I mean anything that gets MAN riled up
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>>127156616
a
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>>127156386
really ? no fire then ? ;_;
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>>127156312
snek pls.

>>127156616
MAN is ded.
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>>127156729
there's always next week anon
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>>127156910
Whoever the current resident sperg is, then
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>>127156910
but if MAN is dead who will janny lose his paranoid fragmenting mind over next?
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any russian here ? why did you kill your national space agency ?
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>>127156910
then why is he still forcing himself into the middle of everything that happens in this thread?

>"ksp proper" category ticking up in consistent increments
wew lad not even meme polls are safe of thread politics
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>>127156312
>snek / cat / trump recurring memes
Only one of these bothers me.
>squad / doc / squadcast
Same shit
You're shit, anon
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>>127157124
maybe that's people voting, anon. Stop being a paranoid schizo.

It was better when we were all just fragments of catfucker's morality coming to terms with itself.
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>>127157096
>fragmenting mind
>fragmenting
MAN is us anon.
We unite under MAN's MAN.
We are all MAN.
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>>127157221
would you rather i have 300 options to satisfy every user's unique autism? then we'd have 1 vote in each category. just stop crying and pick the best fit.
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>>127157252
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>>127157435
black lives matter anon
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>>127157334
Honestly, you sound so tired of life, you should probably just go ahead and do it. Don't leave a note, no one would read it anyway.
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>>127157828
>no one would read it anyway
are you talking about my suicide note or the doc?
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http://strawpoll.me/6424241
http://strawpoll.me/6424241
http://strawpoll.me/6424241

NOW WITH MORE AUTISM
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>>127157985
>MAN vs the world gets spoofed
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>>127158078
you sure that's not just the schizophrenia, buddy?
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>>127157985
And you keep fucking up.
>Cats/sneks/pets in general
Only one of these.
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>>127158190
>implying I'm him
It's obvious what's going on here. Say hi to the IRC for us.

t. /kspg/

>trying to discredit a dead guy
a
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>>127158442
MAN is ded long live to MAN
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MAN died for our sins
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http://strawpoll.me/6424301
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>>127158442
if there's an irc of shills that just want to stop discussing ksp and squad entirely then please please give me the info. ksp and squad discussion are the things killing this general, i just want to have an offtopic shitposters' secret club without people like MAN trying to rally me as his personal army.
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>>127158395


NOW WITH MORE AUTISTIC AUTISM

http://strawpoll.me/6424299
http://strawpoll.me/6424299
http://strawpoll.me/6424299
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Anons do you reminder when the shitposting started ? I-I don't remember. My memories are filled with blanks. Something happened and I'm pretty sure the mighty Shit Posting is not a coincidence. Hulp me
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>>127158604
I don't know who the other one is so I voted MAN
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>>127158830
a
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>>127158604
>leaving duplication checking on in a poll like this

Duuude
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>>127158861
https://www.google.com/search?q=gregroxmun&oq=gregroxmun&aqs=chrome..69i57.3913j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8
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CAREER IS A FALSE PARADIGM
GRIND IS A FALSE PARADIGM
MAN IS A FALSE PARADIGM
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http://strawpoll.me/6424364
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>>127159302
>http://strawpoll.me/6424364
Are you seriously making a strawpoll just to spoof votes for how much you hate MAN?

Maybe you should take your meds.
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>90% of discussion in the past 3 threads has centered around MAN
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>>127159086
Just give me a tl;dr
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I'm beginning to see the flaw in using polls that check vote duplication via IP in a general where being able to change your IP at will is absolutely necessary in order to post
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>>127158697
>disliking cat
Satch, please fuck off.
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>>127159460
>spoof votes
>absolutely no evidence supporting his claim
>THE WORLD IS OUT TO GET ME
Okay MAN.
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>>127159567
Well..at least he can say there is some actual general consensus about something.
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>>127159637
Satch doesn't like cat?
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>>127159567
Hi MAN.
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>>127159572
You know the hypetrain bullshit on the forums? He's the starter of it and obsessively claims that he's the "hype train driver". He's also a massive autist and gets triggered over the slightest things, including at mod developer's actions.
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>>127159640
How did that poll get 60 votes in 3 minutes, anon?

Guys, this is my only post today, have a happy new years. I think someone is trying to discredit me. Whatever, I'm off to hang out with my buddy.
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poal supposedly has better anti-duplication measures than strawshit. let's test them.

https://poal.me/b7ygx2
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>>127159936
>this is my only post today

Heh..
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>>127160038
unless of course there were an IRC that could, say, fill a strawpoll with 60 votes in a few minutes. Then you could break poal too.
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>>127159763
Get this: She doesn't like bestiality, and to make her even worse she doesn't like cats
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>>127160253
I just don't understand how a person can survive like that
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can someone please link the alleged shill irc i want to join it
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>>127160454
Sociopathy.
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>>127160234
PARANOIA
A
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A
N
O
I
A
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>>127160631
Even sociopaths have to enjoy something in life
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>>127160714
They tend to do their murdering to satisfy their need to do shit.
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WHO VOTE FOR?
https://poal.me/pa9g42
https://poal.me/pa9g42
https://poal.me/pa9g42
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>>127160038
Nope, can still be rigged.
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>>127161069
STOP CHANGING YOUR VOTES
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https://poal.me/ck63pu
https://poal.me/ck63pu
https://poal.me/ck63pu
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>>127161687
Why does it allow to change votes?
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http://poal.me/9fzag7
Important poll
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>>127161873
>MAN is cancer is added
>immediately on top
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http://poal.me/s4sdhs
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>>127162476
MAN is cancer seems a good new meme
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>>127162623
The best memes are rooted in truth
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>>127162687
If that were the case, then cat dick is clearly the best meme
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>>127162793
A good meme sure but it's not nearly as factual as TRUMP 2016
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DAWN's latest shots of Ceres.
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>>127162623
>>127162687
Feeling je a lous?

Reminder that in 2016, /kspg/ can be strong.
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>>127162943
A

weird artifiacting in the bottom left
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>>127163047
Feeling butthurt?
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>>127163227
Thorough inoculation against your bullshit is a perquisite for posting here.

What a bout /kspg/ being strong is butthurt precisely?
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>>127158830
I'd like to know. Was it 1-4 hypercontrolling entities that tone-police and destabilize meaningful discussion?
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>>127163354
Claiming jealousy on other people for mentioning someone is pretty butthurt
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>>127163642
they're je a lous of the new meme
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>spending any amount of time trying to discredit a 4chan personality
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>>127164219
>personality

What a big word
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>>127164647
For you.
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>>127164219
>being this butthurt that everyone shits on MAN and nobody takes his your side
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So did we agree on the weekly cleanup of the doc? Is it on Monday?
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>>127165415
2016 represents a chance for /kspg/ to be different.

Not radically different. Not tone policed (ahem), but instead a kinder, more reactive, more participatory /kspg/, both in the community-at-large and at home.

Not everyone will want this. Some will lose their shit when I post this, and some might agree but not say anything. I don't care about people agreeing with me, but I hope that as we kick off this new year we can both have the compassion to understand and allow many viewpoints while at the same time standing strong when a consensus begins to emerge.

Balancing that is hard, maybe impossible. But it's a noble goal to strive for. And I think it's something /kspg/ is capable of.

So thanks boys, and I hope the future holds much in store for this little general.

KSPG 2016

and career is a false paradigm
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>>127165865
Your mom's asshole is a false paradigm
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>2016
>no
gf
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>>127166108
>2016
>engaged
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>>127166185
congrats anon

prenup.
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>>127166108
>>127166185
>2016
>qt cat bf
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>>127166534
>tfw no qt catfucker bf to jack off a cat with
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have you guys ever lost everyone, every close friend that gave you any sort of care or love in this world? how do you cope? i have no one
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>>127167293
Why not just jack off a cat yourself?
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>>127167404
Yeah, I started moderating 4chan.
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>>127167404
A cat would probably help
Or maybe a dog, you might prefer something you can actually have sex with

Of course, having sex with your pet is optional, but it would certainly be better than not having sex with your pet
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>>127168101
Can it love you back though?
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>>127168814
As much as an animal can, yes
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Fix the DMP server
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>>127169765
sigh, I'd be down
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>>126937494
Good thread.

>>127140783
Bad thread.
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a
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y
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>>127170945
y
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a
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o
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We did it reddit!
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I'd probably fuck a pony if it was really asking for it.
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>>127171412
I saw it.
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>>127167404
Yes, only option is suicide.
Trust me, I did it
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>>127171859
and I fucked up by replying with a quote, but
>incognito window
so I can't delete
;-;
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>>127171963
But wouldn't that mean ur dead????????
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>>127171813
If you spend a lot of time around a pony, she'll probably start asking for it at some point
Horses do often come onto humans
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>>127169223
>tfw the mobile version of that site doesn't have a chat

>>127170458
>being such an autistic child that you absolutely need the word "torrent" instead of "not purchase"
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>>127172129
Yes, it's cool to be ded
Commit suicide, everything is fun when u ded
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>>127172213
I was referring to the quality of discussion and general sentiment of the imagery and labelling of the thread

Your machine produced cookie cutter no soul no personality no reason to post here thread is a piece of shit though.
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>drop donut in coffee
fuggggg
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>>127172602
Ok
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>>127172863
Fish it out?
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>>127172906
a
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>>127172997
it was boston cream, the custard got all gloopy and ran out. It'll be good when I finish the coffee though I guess.
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>>127165631
Pls respond
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>>127173204
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>>127173449
So can I use this unrelated picture to claim general consensus and write the weekly cleanup as a rule on the doc?
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>>127173592
a
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I'm watching an episode of cops and they pulled this mexican guy over and he looked so nervous and was trying to bead up his eyes and be a normal guy with the cops but they were having none of his shit so they brought in a canine unit and it indicated on the car.

For a second, I thought they were just faking it to get a look, but they mention it to the mexican and he starts welling up hardcore and says "--some weed--" and they say, "how much?" and he says "I don't know" with the same affect as our former producer had when he signed off for the last time.

At this point they pop the trunk and pull a few ounces of weed out that were sitting in a plastic bag in the back of the trunk. Then a gym bag with a few pounds in it. About two pounds worth was in an airtight glass jar. There's gotta be like 5 pounds there. I paused at this point and will keep watching now but I just had to write that out.

>>127173592
you can do whatever you want anon
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>>127173698
i saw someone already added a poll to decide on the schedule, so I just commented on how against the general consensus that is, since..you know, "we" decided strawpolls are not good anymore.
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>>127174060
Oh man there's a bunch of baggies in the console and two or three scales. F E L O N I E S

lol he only had like $200 though fuckin retard. he's been selling for two weeks apparently
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>>127174357
final note the episode ends on:

>and you know your car is in 1000 feet of a church, so that incurs an additional charge, and we'll be impounding your vehicle for county sheriff use permanently
>mexican nods
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I am curious as to how many people have fapped or considered fapping to that one cat dick video I found
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>>127174796
I don't know about the cat dick video, but I certainly considered it for the horse one
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>>127174886
Why didn't you?
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>>127174929
Idk lol
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>>127175032
Don't tell me you've never even fapped to bestiality before
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Catfucker, what do you think of my friend's cat?
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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saging
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>>127176215
Probably doesn't like the hat
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When is next spacex launch?
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>>127176782
Never
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>>127178232
Just like 1.1
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>>127179454
I wish I had webms to properly demonstrate my cat's cuteness
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Guys, redpill me on Banished
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>>127179823
What aspect ratio do your videos have?
Maybe webm just has a problem with converting 16:9 videos or something
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>>127181001
I have two different videos I've tried to convert
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>>127181046
Maybe it's a hardware thing
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>>127181168
I've tried using an online converter and it did the exact same thing
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>>127181260
Perhaps your video a shit
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>>127181545
That's what I'm thinking, maybe it's just a problem with videos my phone takes
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>>127174796
which video? link?
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>>127182283
http://8ch net/zoo/res/3897.html
Bottom of the thread
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>>127180253
Comfy as fuck.
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I fucking hate this game
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>>127182375
those hairless cat pics are something else man
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>>127183441
>
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>>127183441
that's a wild new year party
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paradigm.
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>>127185029
penis
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https://www.reddit.com/user/Weinersheemerfillabe
which one of you is this
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>>127186137
i think him
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>>127187097
no, it's him.
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>>127186137
why, need some more tone to police?
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Hullo
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>>127188295
It's me.
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>>127188325
scawt mahnlee
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>>127189169
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>>127188295
>>127188325
>>127189169

>Not "Hullo" "Scawt" "Manhlee" "Heer"
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>>127191370
Where the fuck did he get the materials for a campfire, tent, and log cabin on that tiny little area?
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>>127181764
Wait, no, that's wrong
Because the same thing happened with the video I found on beastforum, and I didn't make that video

And snekfag's probably asleep by now
Great
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Why did the chicken cross the road?

To get to the other side!
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>>127191370

What I got from that comic was that if I give up, I'll find a wife, and have a child that can do everything better than me.
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>>127195645
And the child will eclipse all your achievements, then put you out of sight and forget you existed.
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>>127196343
Hey, at least he won't cuck you

Usually
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>>127197393
That won't be an issue.

:^)
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>>127197393

We are all cucks on this blessed day :)
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__________a_________a_____a_a___________a_a_
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dont forget to sage
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great job reddit!
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/3z35lz/update_my_sister_is_being_held_in_her_home_by_her/
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>>127198973
Why are you on that garbage board and garbage website?
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Is there a mod that makes the altimeter display different units? I just can't stand having to deal with europoor "metreres" all the time.
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>tfw Elite will never be as pretty as Spess Engine
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Fminunc appears to be converging on about .3. Is this because my input data is bad, or is my cost function wrong? My cost function is:

(-y'*log(yHat)- (1-y)'*log(1-yHat))/m + (lambda/(2*m))*(p'*p)

Where m is the length of my input data and p are the parameters, or weights of the neural network. The whole + (lambda/(2*m))*(p'*p) business is my regularization if I need it, right now lambda is set at 0 so that part of the equation doesn't affect my cost function. yHat is the output of the network, y is the target.
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>>127200052

forgot muh screenshot
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>>127200275
delete this
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i see piratefags got BTFO yet again.
how can MAN copycats even compete?
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>>127200185

Oh I also have an unbalanced dataset. I can make it so it is more balanced since I am using the maxima and minima of a fourier series for the neural network (I want the network to be able to predict where there is no maximum or minimum, so of course I can increase the number of maxima and minimias by adding more terms), but the less terms in the series I use, the better. Considering I have yet to program a gradient (I calculated on paper but I am being lazy and not transferring my calculations to code), finding a minimum of my cost function is rather slow so I would like to find out a solution through ingenuity rather than brute force with the computer.
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>>127200987
Have you accounted for the prescence of __________as?
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penis
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PENIS
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>>127200758
a
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51И3q
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Ooops! Time to have more drink and go to bed I guess.
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>>127201782
want to take a shot together?
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memes
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>>127199737
Those are the units everyone in the scientific community uses, even Americans
Better get used to it, because no one that takes the subject seriously uses imperial units
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>>127201872

If by a shot, you mean 4, then shure!
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But did you make waifus?
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Is there a buoy mod?
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>>127200052
>>127200185

My bad, .3 has been passed. I just want an overfit to know that a solution can be found with my inputs. This may end up with a good generalization but I want to get an overfit just to make sure that my software can find an global solution.

>>127203070

I have to get more money before I can pursue that goal.
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a
a a
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>>127202237
so help me figure out last night -- im exceedingly drunk at this girls new years party with two other friends, i know no one else there, I'm talking with the two friends about leaving and she comes over and puts her foot on her bed while wearing a skirt, I can clearly see her pink panties, and she says "aww, I don't want you to goooo...." and her tits looked nice and she did that thing with her eyes so I decided to stay.

Mind fucking you this is in deep Harlem and I did NOT want to go home alone, but I tell my friends I'm gonna stay and they leave.

Twenty minutes later, the party is thinning out and I mention needing to find my coat, she walks with me back to her room, we get inside and she gives me a look where she raised an eyebrow so I went for it and she just goes "I'd rather not" -- so I backed off and left, but still, I'm confused because I feel like I read all those signs correctly but maybe I was just shitfaced
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>>127203447

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aaa
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aaaaaaaa
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>>127203643
She's obviously a feminist
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it wont get to the moon and back

why wont it get to the moon and back?
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>>127203643

There are a million different reasons, you always gotta feel out the situation. Girls tend to get turned off on the smallest of things, but don't let that get to you. Women can be fickle as fuck, but there are literally more of them out there than us so you just gotta play the field. There is always pussy out there that you can crush.

Are you PC, bro? No matter how assertive you get, you need to get that consent form signed before you crush that puss.
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Is there any grapgic mods?
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>>127203963

Stop using boosters you faget.
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>>127204047
ok. what do i use in their place?
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>>127203963
because you havent installed KER yet
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>>127204210
Liquid rockets, of course.
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>>127203963
Are you gonna go to a polar orbit since you carry the scanner?
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>>127203971
>consent form
You joke, but a local feminist organisation has actually sent in a law proposal to the government to require notarized consent forms.
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>>127203971
I think it was a shit test I begrudgingly passed, but now that plate is gonna have to spin itself for awhile.
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>>127204329
yes.
>>127204258
thanks
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Guys
I think I have a crush on scatterer anon
I just can't stop thinking about him
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>>127204410
Are you gonna leave the scanner there?

Because when i use them they don't save i have to keep them there and activate them manually.
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>>127204525
yes i will leave it there and attempt to grab the polar orbit scan as well as a landing.

i dont understand your second sentence
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>>127204342
>america
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>>127204687
Whenever i go back to the KSC then reload the ship, the map i had it's gone and can only activate the overlay by reactivating it manually, so i have to keep the scanner ship in polar orbit to actually see the overlay.

I was mentioning it because you said "to the moon and back".
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>>127204459
send him money
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>>127204781
Belgium.
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>>127204976
im doing science mode so its mainly for that
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>>127204047
why are boosters in the game if they are objectively inferior?
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>>127205730
They're supposed to give you a little extra thrust at launch, not really meant to be carried into orbit
Also they're cheap, but >career mode
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>>127204034
Graphic
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>>127205730

Boosters only exist to increase TWR at sea level, in order to allow your rocket to take off. That is why the shuttle had SRBs, just to help carry the rocket up until the weight was low enough for the main engines to take over.
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>>127204459
>>127205204

Yeah send me money why not
I'll send you dev builds
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>>127204342

[citation needed]
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>>127206313
>>/wikipedia/
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rate my eve rover.

its going to have a rocket on its ass
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>>127208602
there's no point in using rovers

they're slow and boring and they don't do shit
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>>127208672
>There's no point in sucking the smallest ounce of fun that the game can offer

Nigga you gay.
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>>127208717
The only fun you can have in KSP is making jets with FAR.

There, I said it.
>>
Max has officially abandoned thread on his former life.

https://twitter.com/Maxmaps
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>>127208808
You're not wrong, but standards forces me to call you an ultra gay autist.
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>>127165865
I agree anon. Happy new feel
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Excuse me
is this the kerbal thread
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>>127173449
Better resolution. Thomas Cole btw.
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>>127209732
cheers, I guess. Didn't that thread get nuked?

>>127209856
Thanks

>>127209785
No.
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So I think we're looking at a shill trifecta of R4pt0r, Sal-vayger and a third... possibly Duodex. What do you guys think?

>>127201648
the three here
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>>127210712
PARANOIA
A
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A
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>>127210776
so it's 6am, no one is posting, surely a little characterization can be ignored, who are you anon? Tell me about yourself, what do you in KSP, how you interact with the community normally, I'm very, very interested.
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>>127210834
Nope

it's almost lunch time
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>>127211120
>accuse anon of paranoia
>incapable of typing 30 words instead of 12 words

I'll try not to assume I'm correct. Have fun eating lunch in the 2nd world.
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>>127211295
I suggest you read this to the end

http://pretendracecars.net/2015/12/14/spork-juct-invades-sim-racing/

Because you are clearly going the way of this guy
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>>127211469
So, just to be clear, you see parity between this
>>127165865
with pic attached? I just want to make sure I understand. To you, is this like that?
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>>127191370
That image gave me the feels.
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>>127211959
No, I see parity with a paranoid idiot who went waaaaay overbroad with his paranoia (your screenshot) and you claiming to be the victim of a conspiracy made by a bunch of nobodies from the forums. It's not even parity because you didn't reach those levels yet, but you are definitely on your way there.

I don't know where you got the idea that I was talking about the post you quoted, but nice try at putting words in my posts that have never been said.
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>>127212254
Alright, last question. How do you feel about "torrent it" being in the OP?
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>>127212361
I couldn't give the least amount of fucks about that, for me both "torrent" and "not purchase" are the same.

But the "this game should be torrented" or whatever it was on top of the OP is not necessary and is clearly janny bait.
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>>127212543
>baiting janny
>the same
>give few fucks
alright, I have all the info I need. Thanks.
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Since retarded anons and schizo supporters have forbidden everyone from using strawpolls, here we go again with Poalme, what to decide about the WIPE SCHEDULE on the doc ??

https://poal.me/mo5d3f

>inb4 y u mad faggit
>i'm bored
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>>127212706
That site is retarded, it is as riggable as straw poll and it allows you to change your vote.

Anyway, I'm for the weekly wipe
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>>127212821
>that site is retarded
I know anon but what's your alternative ?
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>>127212891
Straw poll is ok for me, it's only Mr. Paranoia that is against it.
There is no way to prevent multivotes so we should at least stick to the less confusing solution which is strawpoll
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>>127212891
not him but polls these days seem to exist to simplify topics. In your case the question is more fundamental than "seven days versus thirty days" -- it's about who gets permission to delete stuff and when.

Not that I'm going to add anything of value, but that's why polls aren't good. That and some anons here are willing to rig them to prove a point.
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>>127213030
No it's not about anything you said, it is literally about when the scheduled wipe will happen, nobody talked about deciding who does it
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>>127213016
care to explain this 3 minute old post champ?
I knew you were one of them.
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>>127213115
Uh, except anyone who votes in your poll is codifying your authority to delete it...

I'm not arguing, just pointing out that is part of the question... unless you just decided you have the right to delete other anons' writing?
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BUILD
WALL
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SHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH
BUILD PARADIGM
KSPG 2016
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>>127213121
>poll made without duplication check
>clearly made to spite you
>hurrr strawpolls are bad everyone rigs them

give me a better solution then, polls are as riggable as discussion are samefaggable here but at least polls let you keep track of the decisions.
You are the only one against them so I'll just wait here until you will claim there has been a general consensus about them so I can have a laugh
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>>127213193
>your
Nice implication

And nobody claims that right, everybody has it.
Whoever happens to read the doc during the scheduled wipe day is allowed to delete everything that has been ignored during the previous week.
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>>127213353
>you're the only one against them
I knew I take a lot of heat but if you honestly think I can post that many a's on my own you give me too much credit.

My solution is good old fashioned continual discussion and debate. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. We need to actually engage the document in order to accomplish the goal it was designed to attack, and if we go for the lowest friction method of discussion nothing will get done.
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>>127213115
This.
I'm the one who launched the poll.
We don't vote about the authority, we vote about a schedule. Whoever has the authority to push the button is one of us taking time to do read and apply the rules.
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>>127213531
>bringing up the a meme out of nowhere
Grasping for arguments?

Anyway, I'm not against discussion here, that is what the document is about, but we also need a way to keep track of what has been said without having to dig out every single discussion-related post in a sea of unrelated posts.
Discussion is fine and I am all for it, but we also need a sort of "final check" to sum up the decision.

You have yet to propose a valid alternative to strawpolls.
If one can rig polls, one can samefag arguments so there is no point in getting rid of one without getting rid of the other.
They should both stay because those are the only things we have short of time stamping every decision with our ID card
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MAN pls get out of my board.
>>
Who is MAN and why do we hate him?
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>>127214046
Hint: he Added Nothing.
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>>127214046
It's better if you don't know
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Hello kspergians. I want to download porn KSP on my intel atom cpu + 2gb ram laptop toaster.

What lightweight client do you recommand ?
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>>127214291
T-torrent.
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>>127214291
>>127214329
I, of course, meant torrent client*.
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>>127214291
Deluge
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Is Deluge a good client ?
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>>127213980
I believe tone policing has already been mentioned a few dozen times.
And none of it was aimed at MAN...

>>127214046
Some of us don't.
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>>127214582
I use it on my absolute toaster of a tablet/laptop and it works fine. No ads, no bloats, pretty minimal interface
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>>127214638
Ok I'll go for it
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you're drivin' me to the drink /kspg/
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>>127214589
>Some of us don't.

Read: I don't, and I am MAN
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>>127214863
Your hateboner is beginning to outclass MAN in terms of subject topics, friend.

Do false paradigms frighten you?
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>>127214948
Stay mad kid
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>>127215217
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>>127215314
While you two are busy with dick lenght contests, and since I assume you are the guy against strawpolls, I'd like you to answer this >>127213735
You are so vocal about your ideas but you always disappear when someone asks you to do something, like finding an alternative in this case.
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Do you believe he's the next Darwin ?

http://www.ozy.com/rising-stars/the-man-who-may-one-up-darwin/39217
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>>127215575
the reason i havent replied is because i dont have a good answer. godspeed.
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>>127215314
Nice projector for your projections you have there
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>>127215778
So will you still come back later, imposing a hiatus on strawpolls for everybody or do you at least a acknowledge the fact that both actual discussion and strawpolls are the best thing we have as long as we want to stay anonymous?
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>>127215705
>Unfortunately, England’s work hasn’t yet provided any answers, leaving the professor in a kind of speculative state as he doggedly tries to put numbers to it all. “He hasn’t put enough cards on the table yet,” Franck says. “He’ll need to make more testable predictions.”
It's philosophy, not science. He's just a religious man with a bit of an academic background who writes essays about "why life is".
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>>127215892
Who killed the world, anon?
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>>127215936
>That’s where, he says, the religious teachings come in. Indeed, the man who’s one-upping Darwin has spent the past 10 years painstakingly combing through the Torah, interpreting it word by word much the way he ponders the meaning of life.
>Non-popperian thinker with religious background tries to interpret life.
Yes, absolutely. Problem is the media shouting out he could be the next Darwin to get ads-clicks. What the hell is wrong with people.
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>>127216216
So you will...good to know, I'll remember to discard your opinion instead of trying to discuss with you next time
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>>127216286
My university had a homeopath giving a presentation to medicine students. Apparently that England guy is going around universities giving lectures on his "work" too. Meanwhile, women's studies is an accepted and fairly widespread field of "studies", and universities rate SJW issues like men "sitting with their legs apart on buses" as more important issues than, say, terrorism.
Academia is fucked. Academia has been fucked for quite a while now. Most people are smart enough to realise this. Let your country elect a green, red or feminist government once, let that government be the worst government you've ever had, and you'll be back to being conservative right-wingers in no time.
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>>127183434
I see, what about longevity? Is it enjoyable through multiple runs or is it one of those games that is amazing at first but that gets boring fast?
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>>127216380
i did not hallucinate vote manipulation. I've suffered a dozen strawpolls and poals aimed at discrediting me over the past 24 hours, I do not think they are being used correctly by someone in the general. for doc stuff it should be fine, until someone decides they want to force /kspg/ to do something.

the original manipulated poll was posted minutes after the "council" idea was proposed to have my section whitewashed from the doc.
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>>127216216
The patriarchy
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>>127216286
>>127216380
>expects anything to do with a majority of people to be anything other than complete dogshit
> complains when it turns out to be copmlete dogshit

humans dont do well in large groups. its 2015 and you are on planet earth. why are you expecting anything different?
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trump 2016 build wall
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>>127216778
a
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>>127216551
I don't give a shit about you taking baits from someone else or people being stupid with strawpolls to make you angry, I care about the doc and I don't want to constantly hear you with your self-proclaimed authority deciding that polls are invalid for everyone because you have your stupid war going on with other people.

So, if it is not too much for you, please stop taking decisions for everyone, you are not more important than anyone else.
If you have a better solution, then speak your mind now, otherwise we keep what we have because that's the best we can come up with.
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>>127216760
>2015
Get up to date bruv.
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>>127216831
fine, have your strawpolls, but leave my sections out of them and leave all mention of me out of them. Deal?
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>>127216551
i'm one of the doc contributors what section do you talk about
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>>127216859
oh yeah, oops

track me down and kill me please.
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>>127216909
Why are your sections supposed to be different than everyone else's?
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>>127216986
Because of all the stuff you just said you didn't give a shit about shitass.

If you want to talk about my section, do it here. And its under heavy revision so just leave it the fuck alone instead of turning into a sperg

Please for the love of god just get off my dick
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>>127217583
>posts something in a shared document
>demands special privileges for it because MUH PERSECUTION COMPLEX
Nope.
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>>127217667
Uh... anon you're doing what you freaked out at him for doing... becoming egomaniacal and thinking you have power over other people.
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>>127217827
I'm actually not >>127216986 or >>127216831, I just want MAN to stop making everything about him and demanding special treatment.
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>>127217583
I said I don't care about your war here, but I said a care about the doc.
I already discussed with you about your section and that is the reason you are revising it right now, so don't worry, I won't persecute your stuff.

I was just pointing out that everyone is equal in that doc and if we agree on using strawpolls, then everybody is subject to strawpolls, including you and everything you write.

That doesn't mean I will start spamming polls on your stuff, I will keep discussing it here, just don't demand a special treatment.
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>>127217878
>>127217953
okay here
http://strawpoll.me/6428560
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ITT: MAN fails to realise that if he just stopped being this autistic then nobody would make fun of him, criticise his stuff and fill threads with arguments about what he does and how autistic he is.

Also paranoia is a false paradigm
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>>127218129
a monument to your autism
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>>127218129
That's fine as long as you don't quarantine forever, I think we should put a limit on this with a single quarantine for every section.
If you can't revise your stuff within that timespan, then you switch to a private text document and put it back on when it's finished.
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>>127218292
im literally just doing this so I don't have to babysit the thread looking for surprise "lets delete this section" polls
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>>127218418
Yeah, but we should put a limit on that.
If you can't revise your stuff for two weeks (or however long the time between wipes will be), the your section is cleared and you will post it in its final form when it's ready.
No surpsire polls as long as we decide on a wiping schedule
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>want five guys™
>doesn't open until 11
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>>127218129
>replace "torrent" with "purchase" in the OP

nice way to fabricate arguments that never happened
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>>127218648
I was able to get my fast food 2 hrs ago

>>127218640
That's fine. Thanks for the no surprises. Cheers.
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we should delete man's section while he's asleep to fuck with him
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>>127218757
paging /u/mirkury for an objective opinion on that one
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>>127218838
The doc is saved on multiple places, as fun as that sounds, it just takes 2 clicks to put everything back where it was

please don't feed his autism
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>>127218885
>calling out a specific person who i know will state certain specific views
>objective opinion
good one.
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>>127218129
mfw this poll is /kspg/ in a nutshell
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>>127218885
I'll tell you what happened.

You unleashed your autism because you didn't like "NOT purchase" and wanted to put "torrent" in its place. Which is fine, it's your opinion.

The problem is that you keep telling everyone that you want to change just "purchase" instead of "NOT purchase" to make it look like you are fighting an holy war against pro squad shills, as if the current OP invited everyone to spend their money on the game.

The reality is that the OP literally advises to not buy the game and, if we want to be technical, your solution to switch only the word "purchase" with "torrent" would result in the following sentence
>the general consensus at /kspg/ is that you should not torrent the game

So, to put it short, you are a moron and you can call all the friends you want, but nothing changes the fact that you are an angry little kid that likes to subtly twist arguments so you can win.
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>>127218838
which section is MAN's section btw ?
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>>127219402
i don't know i've never even opened the doc. turkey was a genius to pretend to care about it though, he absolutely destroyed the comfy in this thread.
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>>127219241
>you are an angry little kid that likes to subtly twist arguments so you can win
and your spidey-sense sucks

>>127219093
do I give good paradigm, anon?

also
>spoof option slowly creeping up
:a)
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>>127219472
You're right, but it's 2016 anon, the comfy will return soon.

he'll cancel squadcast soon
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>>127219476
And once again, you can't refute a single one of the objective truths about this autistic war.
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>>127218969
> it just takes 2 clicks to put everything back where it was

Errm...2 clicks no. A few days ago the doc was deleted by some retard, so I retrieved the html formatted text from an office document but the paste didn't work correctly. I had to manually format everything again from titles to highlights. It took me 2 hours to rebuild the same doc. WriteURL's a shit.
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>>127220139
ahahaha i did that
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>>127220139
I never tried to paste anything in there, but I saw it let's you save a word document that preserves all the formatting and highlights, is that broken too?
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>>127220253
Not broken but not fully functionnal either.
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>>127220139
That was me. I felt rebellious.

then i felt bad you retards use that shit site so i just posted spardo gifs
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>>127220457
Proud of your tiny self ? Please have a sit over there.
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>>127219476
>if I put an option that says "click here if you rig votes", then all the votes it gets are indisputable and objective proof about people rigging votes
>totally not a click bait option

'Aight
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>>127220578
sounds like you're pretty upset lmao
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>>127220745
MAN please
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>>127219845
...aaaaand he was never seen again

until next thread, when he will pretend the OP is pro squad and this discussion never happened
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>>127221109
You should put MAN in the middle of the exploding part
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>>127221109
What game?
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>>127221915
War thunder
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The fact is, MAN isn't the only one of us who thinks that removing "torrent" from the latter part of the OP is a bad idea.

Telling people not to buy KSP does mean the same thing from a cursory glance. But the fact is, our concerns are (generally,) more with Squad than with KSP itself. Telling people not to buy it? That tells them more or less to just avoid the game, or seek out a torrent if you really want it.

Telling people to torrent it, on the other hand, creates a different sort of tone. We're now indicating that KSP is worth getting (which it is, but only for modder content,) but that Squad doesn't deserve a cent for their game. That their dishonesty, incompetence, and laziness has shown time and time again that an active boycott is the only thing they deserve.
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>>127224030
honestly mirk i'm pretty sure people are just opposed to it because MAN supports it. i want the op changed but i sympathize with them. there's always some autist that ruins any online community with their ridiculous drama, MAN is ours.
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>>127224168
At this point, I agree. It's turned into a sort of dueling madmen situation in here, where people are siding against each other (mostly against MAN,) while forgetting the actual thing they're fighting about.

Everybody, myself and MAN included, I think, needs to step back from this and look at things from the beginning. We need to refocus - us turning this place into an autistic shitfest isn't going to help/benefit any of us.
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>>127224030
okay MAN
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>>127224030

>The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics. The general consensus at /kspg/ is that you should not purchase the game, not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.
>not because the game itself is unplayable, but because most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.

Literally everything you said is in the OP already.
Even a rock can understand that this stuff means the game is fun but the devs are shits.


I wouldn't be so against this change if you and that other retard didn't try so aggressively to push this fucking torrent word for so long without doing what everyone did before you when they wanted the OP changed.

First it was that angry kid which was very probably MAN, but what do I know who complained about his old OP being discarded A MONTH AFTER THE DECISION, then he just fucking vanished and this charade of "general consensus", " pushing narratives", "vote manipulation" and general arrogance started to do the exact same thing.

Fuck you two, this is not how things work.
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>>127224736
>Literally everything you said is in the OP already.
Except it isn't. Instead of attacking me with your canned arguments just because I disagree with you, back up, and re-read what I wrote. It's not a matter of just words, Anon.
>without doing what everyone did before you
>I wouldn't be so against this change if you and that other retard didn't try so aggressively to push this fucking torrent word for so long without doing what everyone did before you when they wanted the OP changed.
I'm sorry if you have some sort of horrible persecution complex, or have trouble understanding how this whole "every user is Anonymous" thing works, but that simply wasn't me. I didn't make any posts about this until after the strawpoll about the matter was made and posted.

>Fuck you two, this is not how things work.
This isn't your general, you don't make the rules, and we're not required to follow your autistic interpretation of how an OP text in a Video Game General on a Mongolian Carrot Board should be posted.

>>127224521
>>127225009
>>127225227
This never ceases to be amusing.
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>>127225359
>This isn't your general, you don't make the rules, and we're not required to follow your autistic interpretation of how an OP text in a Video Game General on a Mongolian Carrot Board should be posted.

Neither we have to follow your autism dumbass.
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>>127225462
And, if you'd like to go back and re-read what I've posted, I haven't told anybody to do as such. I've suggested we re-examine this issue without throwing autistic shitfits about MAN, or Shills, or whatever other boogeyman you're afraid of.
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I still can't get over how shit Interstellar was.
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Guys I'm tired of OP wars. This madness has to stop.
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>>127226796
nobody else brings it up except for MAN and MAN2.

So you can blame them.
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>>127226796
Remedialists will burn themselves out eventually, they've barely been around compared to the history of kspg.
The mechpleb shitstorm meme burned a lot hotter and a lot longer than the current drama and it's as dead as they get now.
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http://strawpoll.me/6382506

https://poal.me/r1p4fu
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wew aaa
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>>127221915
powder toy
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Kerbal is fun
Squad is fun
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>>127225359
>Except it isn't. Instead of attacking me with your canned arguments just because I disagree with you, back up, and re-read what I wrote. It's not a matter of just words, Anon.

ok

>We're now indicating that KSP is worth getting (which it is, but only for modder content,)

here
>KSP is very enjoyable at first, then it usually needs to be modded to retain some sort of longevity
and here
> not because the game itself is unplayable


>but that Squad doesn't deserve a cent for their game. That their dishonesty, incompetence, and laziness has shown time and time again that an active boycott is the only thing they deserve.

here
>The Developers, Squad, have shown many times that they can't handle the project and are trying to squeeze all the money they can with the least amount of effort and with controversial PR tactics.
here
>most of us agree that Squad does not deserve your money.
and I could quote the whole OP because that's what it is all about


as you can see, everything is crystal clear and I didn't even need to quote the controversial "not purchase" part. What you propose changes absolutely nothing of the point the OP tries to make, everything is already there.

>I'm sorry if you have some sort of horrible persecution complex...
>hurr i'm going to reply to an assumption that nobody made so i can fill my text wall

>This isn't your general, you don't make the rules
neither you do, but the difference is that i'm trying to push you into a "democratic" solution, while you solution is to force your idea on others by creating thread with a revised OP without asking for the opinion of anybody and screaming shill at anyone who dares to disagree.
you literally did this yesterday and a couple of threads ago by spamming threads upon threads, which resulted in a string of deletions the likes of which we haven't seen since the janny war
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>>83849523
>being this mad about replying to old posts
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>>127234392
>replying
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http://www.writeurl.com/text/bnvciyy22cn73zyqi0xw/bh5rn098dcndoqnddwv3/m3wr237l9wqh06oeuqd2

I added a question in there, but I'm going to copy it here too for the sake of discussing.
So, there are a bunch of yellow sections that have both blue and red comments, but the last comment is blue (pro deletion) and explains its view on the matter and why the yellow section should go; there are no red comments after that so the "defender" is either ignoring the issue or didn't check on it yet.
The question is: how do we handle such a situation?
We can't obviously leave everything there, it's a mess, but what do we delete?

Since the last comment is blue and there are no red comments to refute what blue says, I think we should delete everything, including the yellow section, but I wanted to hear you guys first.

Not that I'm going to delete anything soon, we still have to decide on the scheduled wiping session, so this is a slightly less important issue.
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>>127221915
It looks a lot like Powder Game.
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>>127231561
no soul
no personality
no reason to be here
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>>127234984
game ?
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>>127236605
powder toy
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>>127235019
Read the rules again anon.

>If whoever wrote a yellow section ignores the discussion for too long (in days, not minutes), then go ahead and delete it unless someone says otherwise.

So, yes, your logic is sound. We should delete. We all agree to delete. Today ITT we were wondering when we should do it. Weekly ? Monthly ? Bi-monthly ? No decision has been made.

I'm pro "once a week" wipe, on monday. And i'm tired to wait for a consensus to emerge on that important question.
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>>127236921
I'm for the weekly too, I guess we skip this week, give everyone a chance to know we are deciding when the deletion happens and then we start with Monday 11th if everybody agrees or nobody disagrees.

We already deleted a bunch of ignored stuff, there is no need to rush, we can wait another week.
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>>127237390
I'm ok with that.

And I suggested on the doc that we making it mandatory to have to pastebin the discussion before the weekly wipe.
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>>127207897
>>>/reddit/
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Even I'll admit character assassination is fun, but you guys all need to relax. I've barely posted.

Mirk, agree, I've already stepped way back. I have my one section and my one argument about false paradigms and that's it.

These three angry personalities appeared here the evening before Squadcast and haven't left and haven't stopped shitting on me since.

I'd really like to shitpost, but watch, they're gonna attack me as soon as I post this, so I'm gonna bait them and leave again for another few hours.
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>>127241606
*tips antipsychotic medication*
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>>127234392
>replying to 1 year and 75 day old posts
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>>127241708
>but watch, they're gonna attack me as soon as I post this
predictable and dumb
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Does anyone want to rape Badie?

What's the clearest screenshot we have of her face?
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>>127232063
Excellent, thanks for the actual response this time.

Again, you don't seem to get the point of what I'm trying to say here, so let me try a different example.

Look at the following sentences:

"Tim was hit by a train and died."
"Tim was hit by a train and killed."

Each one means the same thing, but each conveys a different tone. The word killed generally implies a more serious wrongdoing.

Such is the case with replacing "not purchase" with "pirate."

>hurr i'm going to reply to an assumption that nobody made so i can fill my text wall
Except that you seem to think that I've been, alone, responsible for all the discussion about this. That isn't the case.

>you literally did this yesterday and a couple of threads ago by spamming threads upon threads,

You do it again here. I made one thread, Anon, when we hit bump limit a day ago. Other than that, I haven't bothered to make a thread since the post-Janny war chaos, if I do recall correctly.

Just as you aren't the only /kspg/-anon that holds your opinion, I'm not the only one who holds and posts about mine. Stop assuming it's one or two people out to get you, or troll you, or whatever.

>"democratic" solution
Except there was an attempted "democratic" solution. We voted on if the revised version of the OP, with "Pirate," should be used. Prior to what looked like somebody making butthurt fake votes (because an extra 10 votes in an hour on a /kspg/ poll, is rather suspicious,) it was winning.

If you're going to get so worked up about "how things work," you can't just ignore that the poll was made, and we *did* vote for things to be changed.
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>>127242393
What he said, but also career is a false paradigm
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I've been gone for a month or so, what the FUCK is going on.
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>>127242942
Quality meta-shitposting.
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>>127242942
hello max
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>>127242995
What's this "doc" we are talking about? Why is MAN still here? Has Max come back to shitpost?
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>>127242149
Not rape but thick mexican grills is literally my fetish
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>>127242942
KSPG 2016 is a meme where we all try to become a better /kspg/ by organizing and providing useful feedback to a producer who asked for it

a certain forum brigade has decided they'd prefer to turn our productive optimism into a failed character assassination attempt and make blatant mistruths about the general consensus of the gneral.

Also the janitor is one of them and is forcing us to use his antipiracy threads, leading to the new grand meme:

a
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>>127243216
Is the "doc" the collection of feedback for Dr. Turkey?
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>>127243080
Dr. Turkey, the new Producer of KSP, has agreed to look at a list of /kspg/ grievances about KSP, and take them into consideration. This 'doc' is that list.

>Why is MAN still here?
There's been a bunch of issues with people spoofing votes on strawpolls here lately, and it's gotten people riled up.
>Has Max come back to shitpost?
I wish, dude.
>>127243174
Anon, I just finished fapping. I didn't need this.
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>>127243337
it was but turkey's never going to read it so it's just turned into a vessel for the worst attention whoring this thread has ever seen
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>>127243454
Is it a google doc or something?

Thanks for getting me up to speed lads, I seem to have missed out on some good shitposting.
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>>127243454
I have a personal, solemn promise from turkey he'd read it. Oh anon I have the convo for you on my other comp hold on
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>>127243584
>i have a personal, solemn promise from a squad employee
did you find yourself in windowless vans often as a child?
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>>127243676
Only twice, and I even got real candy the second time.
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>>127242942
schizophrenic turboautists samefaggin and calling each other meme names.
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>>127243558
there are some people in this thread who need to be raped in the mouth right now so your presence is welcome back here.

First we need to get "torrent" back into the OP

then we need to hug badie

>>127243676
I'm not going to be the one responsible for setting a tone of distrust with Turkey, but he can do that to himself, that's fine.
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>>127243216
PARANOIA
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>>127243810
You got a link to the doc? I want to see what you accomplished.
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>>127244024
You really don't, it's embarrassing.
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Interesting. Every time somebody makes an attack on MAN, the number of unique IPs increases.
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>>127243927
>doing this
>>127213121
AUTISM
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I
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>fucked another mun landing
>under 7 units of fuel left

Welp, time for a rescue!
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>>127244203
metadrama is bad enough, fuck off with ksposting
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Dres
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Should I unbold the black part?

I think I should.

also just to catch you up I found this interesting list Max was on (before his sex change)

http://pastebin.com/ReCnMKnT
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>>127244546
Probably got flagged by auto-gg blocker due to being in contact with Totalbiscuit.
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>>127245529
why is max on the whitelist while TB is on the blacklist?

Also did you look any of those names up? They all look like SJW clones toeing party line
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>>127245907
Oh, I thought it was just the general autoblock list, my bad. Does make me ask though, why would he be in it?
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>>127246000
trips point the way
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>>127244546
What does this have to do with ksp?
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>>127247345
Turkey is the game's producer. He want's to hear /kspg/'s issues with the game.
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>>127247418
however it's uncertain if he wants to actually fix it, or if he can get anything done within the constraints he's been handed.
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>>127247418
>>127247731
Ah, gotcha.
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>>127244546
Now that I know this >>127247418
Unblack them. I want to see what he has to say.

Also, it looks like the mod makers are getting tired of the game, or at least it's half assed updates.
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>>127218179
>>127218838
>>127219062
>>127221189
>>127226938
>>127241708
>>127243789
>>127243927
>>127244274

They never reply when somebody quotes them, only show up when we're discussing changing the OP, are almost all from new IPs, and generally make aggressive posts against MAN.

Fascinating. It looks like our narrative is indeed being guided.

Now that I've mentioned the matter, I'm likely to get a response from a new IP.
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>>127248329
>Also, it looks like the mod makers are getting tired of the game, or at least it's half assed updates.
What makes you say that?
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>>127248394
have my new IP schyzo
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>>127248404
I haven't been keeping up that much, but it seems like a lot of mods aren't getting updated to 1.05.

Maybe I'm just going senile.

>>127248394
cat dicks
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>>127248329
I don't think he should, it's probably private/confidential stuff that Turkey himself thanked for not showing, so if we want to keep a hint if hope in what he can do for us and for the game, we better not piss him right at the start and throw away whatever faith he could have in kspg
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>>127248593
1.0.5 is close enough to 1.0.4 that a lot of mods don't need updating to function.
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>>127248592
Thanks for the confirmation f a m
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>>127248394
>if I say that people will quote me, then I will look less like a paranoid moron when they actually quote me to call me a paranoid moron.

You are a paranoid moron and you should stop checking the ip count every time someone quotes you
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>download game again after 6 months
>spend a couple hours getting mods together
>spend 15 minutes playing
>crash
>crash
>crash
>crash
see you again in 6 months
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>>127248678
Oh, good to know.

>>127248628

The faith is all gone. Now it's shitposting and bitching. Begone!
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>>127248779
None of those actually quote me though, friendo. I'm all for keeping the OP as it is, but things seem more reactionary than normal in here.
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>>127248738
Thanks for noticing. I guess catfucker's just having a very bad migraine headache after all his new years partying with his cat

I'm not shook yet

>>127248628
He hasn't shown any seriousness about listening, so why should I care?
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>>127249315
>He hasn't shown any seriousness about listening, so why should I care?
It's almost as if there's been a major holiday or something and people haven't been at work.
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>>127249429
Oh that's right, I forgot, Mexicans.
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I can repeat what's already been said here. A small chunk of the highlight says "his devblog" so think about people who have devblogs and Turkey DID mention the proposed use of a carrot.

That's all I'll say about it for now, but if next week's squadcast is another dud, I'll consider releasing more.
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>>127249824
Bac9 is doing the tier-0 space center.
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>>127249824
Just do it already faggot