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ded game 2016 edition #2

old thread:>>126921570
>>127066892

>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>/poeg/ HC guild (No sporkers allowed), drop your IGN if you want an invite
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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first for anime
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What's a good memebuild to ring in the new year?
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Why did the last thread get pruned
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>>127096472
i don't know senpai
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Act 3 Piety Merciless

I have 3600 HP, 10k armor and max resists, should be good?
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Why are the Dual Wielding nodes so OP?
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>>127097020
but thats untrue.

theyre all really bad.
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>>127097213
Am I doing something wrong?

poeurl.com/vgq

Build's Reave with Binos and Death's Hand.
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how does EA deal with ele reflect without vaal pact?
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>>127097213
twin terror cluster is bonkers m8

>>127097428
Flask up and pray.
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Taking guesses
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poeurl.com/vgr


Rate my HC melee Hegemoney crit staff build.

Either sweep or something else.
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>>127097560
except they're positioned really bad? that life cluster next to it isn't even good and the pathing is abysmal.

if you're going crit, you're already using daggers which means you might as well be in the shadow area along with the witch area possibly getting PCs. Twin terrors is gutter trash when you realize you have to path allllll the way to the Ranger area. Basically, it's a noobtrap, I bet you take acrobatics as well.

>>127097383
For what purpose? if you're doing Reave just get a rare dagger... im quite honestly shaking my noggin at the notion of deaths hand reave.
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>>127097930
>shaking my noggin at the notion of deaths hand reave
Okay.
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>>127097428

don't get hit
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>>127097892
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAxthYYz38xFj2SF8_wQQUIH_jeWjvDjH7qW4__FBHd-PoZuRRAdwIsWebhNmuPkd-qZTGrr02h2p4egthxPZlTaknr2xyqb6nhO9r2Wjy9zKsqtrBouo0jvAfPO-SfeoYWfN07S5TEuGGO6IAGF3cI3as7USfPho4cg8FLdNvBLOYb89-vJot0pBVZp5678Bm5c9Bcicv-tI8BclnHRQWb5_f73yPRuNqE3FepUWOWK77izQxVbWezacwn8sB5xRN_Eu8nxiR8pxul_e-jM-tjfjru-2RzvPdaGUkqjbp
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>>127097930
Binos is flat damage man, the %damage nodes scale incredibly well with the dagger compare to just ones you craft yourself even if the dagger on paper has higher dps.

I don't think you know what you're talking about at all.
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>>127098251
maybe lose the 0.8 reg by the maru start
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>>127098529
Reave clears faster with a rare dagger mate...you know vaal reave snap shots right? Do you know how big the AoE is relative to your screen? Compared to binos poison its much better at clearing packs and faster overall.

Also

>using deaths hand
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>>127098837
Mate, just stop. Find me a dagger in temp league that can clear faster than a Bino for 1-2ex.

Also, you're bringing all these extra info in here about reave that everyone already know and nobody even brought up just to make yourself seem like you know what you're talking about.

This is pretty stupid. Put on a trip so I can filter you.
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>>127098071
>reflect
>don't get hit
u wot m7
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>>127099158
There are literally daggers with upwards of 287 pdps being sold on TSC for 2ex.

With at least 8.2% crit..

There's actually a 320 pdps dagger with possible crit being sold for 2.5 ex but he's offline.

Checkmate atheist.
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why did the old thread 404
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>>127099502

normies
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>>127099437
It's so frustrating talking to people like you because you are like a recording on repeat. You never once addressed that Binos is flat damage that scales better with the tree.

I once again politely request you put on a trip so I can filter you.
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>>127099781
Bino's isn't flat damage, bino's only works if you poison an enemy i.e. poison gem or adder's touch, the only reason you believe it's flat damage is because it runs off a % of your hits, and Binos has a set base damage so that damage almost never changes (except from passives that affect daggers..like every other thing in the game!) . Reave with poison is literally redundant, anything hit by your reave is already poisoned with a poison gem and your fast attacks already proc adders touch, the only thing Binos does is spread it (lol, meanwhile Reave's huge AoE already touches everything)

You're actually fucking retarded. Go learn how shit works next time idiot. It doesn't do a flat damage and of course it scales from the tree just like ANY poison application in the game.

Oh, poison linked to EK! well that scales from the tree of course( spell damage and physical damage!) Newsflask nigga, everything does that. Get good faggot.
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>>127100236
Nobody mentioned about poison you massive faggot. Holy shit you're so mad over being your own stupidity.

Hint: all your retarded rare daggers have a flat damage and % weapon damage which brings it to your dps. Do you know wtf I'm talking about now? No, then fuck off because you don't deserve to have another year.

Post your address so I can go over there and gut you like a fish.
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>>127100495
if binocs flat damage that scales well with the tree then so are the daggers with 80 more pops for the same price, nice logic idiot.
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Why are people in this sub so coarse and brutish?
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>>127100495
See my post here >>127099173
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i just spent a week playing flame totem

game is fucking boring.

most fun build and class?
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>>127100736
Because people enjoy being inefficient and unprogressive, otherwise everyone here would be playing the best builds. Mine
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>>127100772
ranger ele wander
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>>127100657
Bro do even understand why base and flat damage is so much stronger than dps from a percentage? Do you know why abyssus is such a ridiculous damage upgrade even on RT builds?
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>>127100935
Oh my fucking god, he doesn't know how local modifiers work


Are you THIS retarded, do you know how items work?
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>>127100736
maybe you're just gay and bad
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>>127100935
% physical increased modifiers on weapons are local and only affect the weapon... You're one dumb cunt nigger
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I wasn't even going to use binos anyways losers. I already knew it was a noobtrap and you guys feel for my memes the moment you mentioned poison. Pfft amateurs.
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>>127100935
>>
D
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tried making a crit ice nova build
but man
it's just really shit
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>>127100935
People like you are why this general is so shit nowadays.
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>>127102003
false. retarded shitcrows and ethnic redditors are why it's shit
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>>127102232
Why not both idiot poster, shut rows, hcautists and redditors in general

Why aren't you defending binos anymore btw you dumb cunt
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>>127102232
>ethnic

go back to /pol/ stormfrontfag
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they deleted the old thread cause they realized that pillars of eternity is the superior game so we gotta give up poeg to them
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>>127102426
Lets be honest here, webbit has both more information and quality posts in regards to PoE.
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>Matando malaquias con 230 ping

no me gusta
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>>127102542
Pretty sure op banned shitpostin
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>>127100935
I refuse to believe you're being serious.

There's just no fucking way you're this retarded.
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1st for looking at a dead thread for 2 hours without realising.
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something something my whole life
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Should I play this or D3?

I don't want to bother reading all the fucking nodes to make my own build or w/e
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>>127104874
d3
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how much chaos/poison should i take off the tree for self-cast bladefall/poison? With the Shadow start.
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>>127105172
as much as you can
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>>127102427
this is an anglo/aryan general
get out shitskin
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>>127106586
>white pride
>wears all black

that envy is real
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>>127096171

i died at level 26 not long after making this video 2 days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs1iqmKvlIA

i died to a spike infinite spike floor i now know i could of portal'd out of as ive done it twice with my new hardcore talisman witch character

did i fucken jinx myself by making this video and showing off all my orange in hardcore mode?

standard mode my entire inventory is full of orange! (my little brother beat the game on both modes and made it to cruel on hardcore tali mode, i havent even beat the game yet, please no bully!)

also have diablo 3 reaper of souls version in alt tab mode, its on the hardest difficulty but after playing poe in hardcore tali mode....... the hardest difficulty in diablo 3 feels like very easy mode, diablo 3 feels like im playing a game for babies now after hardcore poe... ffs diablo 3 blown the fuck out by poe hardcore mode!
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How's investing into a 2ex Belly of the Beast right now? I'd basically use it until I get a Lightning Coil, if ever, but I'd rather not lose 1ex if BotB prices drop in a week.
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>>127107110

this is a reddit repost right?
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>>127107110
bait
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>GGG realizes people are farming Dried Lake
"O MY GOD O MY GOD O MY GOD QUICK LETS LOWER THE SPAWN RATE OF MASTERS IN DRIED LAKE QUICK QUICK QUICK LEST PEOPLE ARE HAVING FUN OR WORSE IT MAKES RELEVING MASTERS FOR THE 100TH TIMES A BIT LESS TEDIOUS O MY GOD QUICK I SAID"
-GGG
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are you retarded?
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>>127107998
are you?
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>>127102548
voter systems without your personally identifiable information and qualifications attached to it are not only worthless but they're absolutely destructive.
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>can't leap slam over this rock
>chaos snakes can shoot through it

explain this ggg
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>>127108281
git gud sport
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>>127108281

>he thinks chaos obeys the same laws and rocks and men jumping over rocks
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>>127100935
Sorry kid, you may need to have your brain checked.
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>pm rate
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>open a normal chest
>unique drops
lol wut
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>>127109172
>kill mob
>drops loot
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>people meming Exalts everywhere with Consuming Dark, poison and chaos damage
>meanwhile Volley Fire Barrage CoC with physical spells destroy everything with a 1c wand
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>>127109396
but it was in one of those shitty chests nobody opens and if you do open them you usually just find wisdoms.
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>>127109396
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>>127109172
the chest's loot table rolled a unique. it isn't unheard of.
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how good is the blasphemy-punishment combo?
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What build actually uses all the flat elemental damage on weapon? Literally all elemental builds are just scaled through physical damage, which feels retarded to begin with.
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>>127111393
softcore friendly
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>>127111448
Ele bow
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>>127111448
elemental reave
elemental cleave
elemental molten strike
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>>127111393
If you can fit it in after Temp Chains and Enfeeble its okay.
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>>127112626
>elemental molten strike

How does that work? It's also an physical conversion.
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i love this game.
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>>127113774
I don't think you do.
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Remove derpy ground.
Remove demand loading of assets.
Remove Chinese bot spam.
Remove exclusive items from softcore leagues.
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>>127112786
Them projectiles mayne.
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>tfw people are literally paying 10c each for shadow of the vaal kill
>tfw people are literally paying 35c each for ambrius kill
>tfw people are paying 35c for twinned tier 15
>tfw people are paying 10c for twinned tier 14

Easiest fucking money ever and they're fuckin happy for the service.


>50,000 poison damage per second not displayed in tooltip

too bad I can't leech through dots, I'd just VP for 2500 hps single target and tank anything that doesn't hit for 6k+
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>Alkaizerx about to get #3 on the ladder 100% solo
>people still claim grouping is a must to race the ladder
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>>127114998
Running ming's? Also why not bladefall? Casting animation or something?
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>>127114789
Make standard a legacy, "hidden", league
Release a new standard league with ascendancy
Do this every 5 years or so
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>>127115341

If I went bladefall I'd be doing 140k dps and leech 3.5k+ single target with atziri flask on regular targets (2 hits, bigass bosses take like 3 or 4 I think?)

sadly I'd need a new chestpiece(4 blue sockets).

I'll go bladefall once I feel I've earned enough dosh, which I have plenty of.

got a bunch of tier 13-14-15 maps I can sell carries too.

I find the clear speed of bladefall kinda worse than EK though, my EK just splashes the screen till the edge, bladefall is smaller.
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>>127114998
>tfw people are literally paying 10c each for shadow of the vaal kill
what? why? what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>127115436
>my EK just splashes the screen till the edge
with only 20% faster projectile? Hum, I remember EK having shit range. Did they change something?
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>>127115436
>find the clear speed of bladefall kinda worse than EK
Like it has worse spread or something? I suppose that might be a thing. Bladefall seems to have better clearance for a path though.
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>>127115627

45% from duelist+ranger+shadow tree
29% from rare wand
20% from gem level

well I can't hit the VERY edge, but for the most part if I see it I can hit it where I stand.
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>>127112626
>elemental molten strike
Shits on fire yo
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how many of you would fuck alkaizer
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I need some new meme build - my bladefall trapper is getting boring desu senpai
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>>127117306
she's a girl so... yeah

I'd stick it in her pooper
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>>127117920
chaos ice spear
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>>127117920
any spell + chaos conversion = meme of the month
bino + ???? = meme of the month
poison + ???? meme of the month


http://poerng.com for inspiration
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>>127118118

>http://poerng.com for inspiration

Cold Snap Scion with Blood Magic - idk wtf but mfw.

>reroll

Cold Snap Ranger with Zealot's Oath - what the flying fuck?!
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>1- Aegis Crit Reave
>2- Aegis Crit Spectral Throw
>3- Hybrid CoC Discharge/bvortex Cyclone
>4- life based Crit chain EK
>5- Low life Chaos Fireball
>6- mana Windripper Tornado Shot
>7- Vaccum Cyclone / Vaal Ground Slam
>8- DW reave
>9- life based Phys Wander
>0- Phys Tornado Shot / Vaal Burning Arrow

roll
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>>127118118
> Split Arrow Shadow with Avatar of Fire

no
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>>127118321
>Your build is: Cyclone Duelist with Ancestral Bond

Here we go boys
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>>127109521
lol, those chests drop chaos all the time
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>>127118409

Rerolled again

Fire Trap Marauder with Unwavering Stance.

Well, Shit's on fire yo!
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>2016
>still playing poe
lmao
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>>127118409
ancestral bond cyclone was a thing in the days of ghost busting
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>>127118582
what totems would you use?
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>>127118607
searing bond
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>what level are your highest masters
>how much time do you have in poe
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>>127117920
>http://poerng.com
>Your build is: Shockwave Totem Ranger with Minion Instability
that sounds ass
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:)
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>>127118952
7
~4000 hours
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>>127119547
>global chat
>no life/mana numbers
>big gulp
>portal gem
>lightning arrow
>ice golem
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>>127119642
>hurr durr stop playing the way you like
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Guys, is "You can take a storm cloud to maps while leveling an ele crit bow build" only a meme?
would a death's harp/that new bow with +1 chain/infractem do better?
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>>127119725
death's harp is better but you can absolutely reach maps with just a storm cloud
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>>127119676
>playing the way you like
i.e as a shiter
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are surgeon's flasks garbage now?
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Why do some people's Belly of the Beast say Level 70 and Intelligence 155 on poe.trade?
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>>127119946
And? If Im having fun thats fine you stupid faggot
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>>127120123
there is no good or bad anon, only rng.
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>>127120156
sure it is, don't forget your roots proud to be shit 4 life xD
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>>127114998
probably a noob question but where does the chaos damage of EK comes from (since you don't have Added Chaos)?
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Would like to join the guild

Battler_HCTI
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>>127120502
check the reddit sidebar
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>>127120304
anyone?
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I cant decide between:

bladefall trapper with poison and crit nodes
or
chaos firestorm trapper (I guess crit is not good for this one)
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>>127119642
what's wrong with the ice golem?
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1147951
Can someone tell me why does he keep the CwDT gem at lvl 10?
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>>127120895
not taking chaos golem
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>BLADEFALL
>BALANCE

PICK FUCKING ONE.

>facetanking double vulnerability dominus 2nd form without any defense pots and no vaal grace
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>>127120931
the higher the level the more HP you need to lose before the gem is triggered.
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>>127121212
Why level 10 though?
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>>127121053
>tfw I can facetank double malformation piety with my vaal pact voltaxic
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>>127121286
Because that is the amount of damage he felt comfortable with triggering his CWDT setup. If it's too high you're already half dead before it triggers, if it's too low it's going to be on cooldown when you really need it.
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>>127121414
Thanks
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>>127120931
he wants the CwDT trigger at 1.3k damage and have the enfeeble/inmortal call at lvl 13/12

if he have a ~6k hp pool its all standard shit, you usually want your CwDT to trigger at 25-35% of your total hp because of this:
>>127121414
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which bot is the best
i don't want to re level shit
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>>127121053
WHERE DOES YOU CHAOS DAMAGE COMES FROM GODDAMIT NOT FROM FORCE SHAPER THATS FOR SURE SO WHERE??
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>>127121709
look at the flasks you fucking retard
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>tfw you are a no-damage culler and cant find any party to map

onegai
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>>127121751
look at the buffs, Rumi is not active and certainly wouldn't explain those numbers. Fucking retard.
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>>127121976
where do you see rumi's on that screenshot you massive dumbfuck
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>>127121976
force shaper
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>>127122046
Atziri whatever. You're still a retard, though to think a buff from a flask is active when it's not active. Shut your goddam mouth.
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>>127121709

it's ming's heart.

Without both of those I have probably 7400 life.

Unnecessary, I enjoy the 40% chaos added damage and being passively chaos capped, no more 8000 damage boulders from otherwordly golems, or 5000 spits from otherwordly devourers.
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>>127122168
It's 5% ... It's more like 50% in the screenshot.
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>>127122236
Thank the gods, an answer.
I can rest easy now, and die a well deserved peaceful death.
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Can I make any cool builds with these Uniques?
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>>127122641
max block cybil's blade vortex
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>>127121053
>sc
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>>127122949

>implying it matters since I didn't die
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>>127122994
post /deaths
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>>127122994
what's the matter, too much of a pussy to man up and join hc?
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>>127122994
>using tainted gear
it matters even with 0 deaths
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just had 4 servings of tomato soup and now my belly is all bloated
btw is this game still worth playing
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>>127122994
TAINTED.
BY.
DEATH.

>implying you're not tainted
disgusting
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>>127122641
i felt so free to mark the instant vendor trash for you
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>>127123251
>>127123337
>unironically using GGG-invented buzzwords
KEKS
U
C
K
S
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>>127123430
>Zahndethus' Cassock
>not instant vendor trash
lmao
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>>127123481
nice skin, bro
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>>127123430
>ashrend is worth the space

jesus fuck why did you even try
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Whoever bought the helm I was liquidating shit to buy can die of AIDS.
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10q
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>>127123430
>>127123879
Maul, zerandthus, ashrend, oro's, maligaro's lens, geofri's, that staff at bottom should all be included as well.
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>>127124000
>caring this much about 3gcp
>>
>decide to make new character
>click create
>click hctalisman
>click scion
>enter name
>A character with this name already exists.
>A character with this name already exists.
>A character with this name already exists.
>A character with this name already exists.

this is hard guys
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>>127125413
slam the keyboard twice
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>>127125413
>click hctalisman

found the shitcrow
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>>127125594
i think you misread

hc = hardcore

as in the superior core
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>>127125714
keep trying shitcrow

altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4 altF4
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>>127125413
When racing I once started pressing random combinations. I had two off wfyugraewg type of names that were taken.
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>>127125413
>having 0 creativity


name yourself fatmasterflameblaster
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>>127120304
Ming's Heart and Atziri's Promise probably.
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>>127118342
pls 3
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>>127126274
i used fat_blast
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>oro's three dragons southbound lightning strike
>it works
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>>127125776
Jesus Christ, its been 3 years and you people still havent adjusted your memes. No one uses alt f4.
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>>127127129
worse, shitcrows use the auto disconnect, auto glup, etc.

>lesoHC-85%scripts
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3z0xuu/schc_thankyou_ggg_for_something_i_never_thought/

>even reddit plays hc

whats your excuse 4chains
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>lowballing people
>they don't even respond
fuck this trade system
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>>127125413
Just pick a name and add the name of the league at the end
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>>127123430
Thanks, should I just vendor at NPC those ones?
I keep them because I have the hope that maybe one day one build will need that Item.
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hey guys
I used to play this game a lot but I left a bit before that major patch that brought act 4 rolled
What's the actual status of the game? Memes aside, is it ded? Do I need to re-learn the game back from the very start or are things still pretty similar?
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>>127127993
well if you like collecting stuff you can keep them.

As a build i would suggest pillar of the caged good sweep/cyclone with daressos defiance.

But you will need a lot of strength
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reminder that shitcrows will NEVER win the battle for poeg. not while i'm around
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>>127127347
>>127125776
die
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>whisper people regarding item
>same item is being sold for way less, see indexer
>no I want 3 times the amount, they are worth that much to me
People really dont get how an economy functions or pricing works. The amount of mentally challenged retards who are scared of 'being ripped off' is staggering.
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>>127129148
this is just a cheap excuse for lazy design by retarded developers

>let's give this boss a one-hit-kill attack
>it's fine because players can just log out))))))))))
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>>127129574
>buy a few of high value item
>list for a fraction of the price without actually selling them
>buy more referencing this price
>sell for original price

Think a little before you proclaim yourself smart and everyone else dumb.
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>>127129148
keep trying
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what do i do with this?
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>>127130973

Transmute, Augment, Alt untill get food cast speed, regal, if its good - ex, if not, chaos reroll.
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>>127129574
>people are now retards for not getting ripped off using one of the most well-known and practiced scamming technique.
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>>127130097
>unique items piles up on the indexer
>I swear its worth that much its super super rare
Well, if it was super super rare and worth that much then there wouldnt be 15 of them on the indexer right now.

Stop to apply your shitty scrubcore market controlling strategies to a hardcore temp league without even knowing what its about. The item at question is Skyforth, a pair of boots that isnt even remotely worth what its being sold for right now.
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>>127130973
It's a melee weapon like any other.
Finish the game with it and you'll get an achievement upon killing Merciless Malachai with it.
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>>127130973
>fish
>make reddit post for upvotes
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>>127131518
skyforth is a meme right now

sure it will drop but I can assure you people buy them for those prices too, there is more to economics than simple supply and demand.
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>>127131518
There's only 10 of them and two currently online sellers are selling it at the lowest price listed, and one of them is me.
You may be mentally challenged.
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What can I jew this for in hc talisman?
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>>127131736
>sure it will drop but I can assure you people buy them for those prices too
Yeah, YOU CAN ASSURE ME. Thats why the amount of people who sell them doesnt decline. Thats why you can literally observe people on trade go from 20ex b/o to 15ex b/o in a mere 2 hours. Because people will definitely buy them.

>there is more to economics than simple supply and demand
Yeah, like retarded spastics who let items rot in their stash until the league gets dumped into HC. Seen that often enough. POEs economy isnt complicated, and the trading process sure as hell isnt either. The best part is that the guy I talked to couldnt even explain how an item that is piling up on the indexer is supposed to be extremely rare. He kept saying that it was, but wouldnt explain why there are so many then.

And before you go there: 10 items on the indexer is a lot. An extremely rare items has people fight bid wars over it in the thread, like Void Battery in Onslaught or Voltaxic when it was still good.

>>127131936
>There's only 10
ONLY 10

Almost fell off my chair.
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>buy storm cloud for 2c at level 15
>still doing fine mid-merciless

so its the lifesprig of bows?
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>>127132042
>all that mad
>still no skyforth boots though :(
I'm selling them 15ex, but will make a special 4chan price of 17ex for you. hit me up.
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>>127132042
Your example is exactly the reason why it's more complicated than supply and demand. People are holding them because they (falsely) believe they are worth more than people are willing to pay for them. This causes the prices to rise above the natural supply/demand price. This does not mean the price is inherently wrong, if someone wants it bad enough they'll pay up. Of course the price will drop since a large amount wont sell and these people will get impatient. Are you willing to wait for that though?
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>>127132562
Give it a week until you will price them at 10-12 because no one pays you :^)

Alternative is to let them rot, of course.
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I really hope they get rid of cruel at some point. Getting a character map ready feels like such a boring drag since they've introduced act 4. I just don't have the willpower to do it anymore, after two high level rips in talisman.
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>>127132686
If you say so. My technique for selling is to always sell cheaper than the market price. Made around 50 ex for now like this. I'm not in a hurry, why would I be? I'll sell them at 10ex. next week, yes, maybe, what's the harm for me? None. The only one getting angry is you because you can't get want you want at the price that you want in the instant. Just do without them.
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>>127132684
>Are you willing to wait for that though?
If the item was build enabling? Maybe not. However, that exactly what Skyforth and a lot of overpriced items arent. They are like weaker version of Headhunter: nice cherry on top but not necessary to make anything work.

I get what youre saying and agree. Point still stands that if items are piling up like that then people might wanna reconsider their pricing strategy.

>>127133036
>The only one getting angry
I am not getting angry. I am simply confused by the thought process and chain of arguments. Hell, I dont even 'want them' right now. If I could get them for the amount I am willing to pay then I would probably get them. But otherwise the above applies: they arent build enabling which removes the incentive to overpay by a lot.

Shavronnes for example enabled LL so the incentive to overpay was big because you couldnt run LL without it. Skyforth dont enable shit, they are an addition to a build.
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Should I use it or sell it for 20c?
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WANDER MOVEMENT SKILL WHEN
WANDER FORTIFY WHEN
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>>127133904
spoiler that shit
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Go through hell with trading making a perfectly viable hardcore build level it to 94 just to die to invisible frost bearers because you play ice crash and are one / two shotting everything.

I really don't know why GGG haven't removed this shit from the game yet it wasn't even a blood lines map just random bearers and boom death couldn't even use flasks.

Cancer mod, quitting this game like in bloodlines when I died to some overpowered legacy of zeal bullshit. The game has too much bullshit like this in it, it isn't fun or interesting or creates dynamic play it's fucking stupid. I don't want to play with injectable either that disables the spikes from ice crash (but you still see AoE so bearers are visible) or just pick up reave due to this shit.

There's something wrong with game design if you randomly die by something almost invisible. Fuck bearers most broken shit mod in game quit in tempest because of this shit as well.
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>>127133632
>20c

??
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>>127134257
>brightly coloured mobs indicating that they have special mods
>brightly coloured mod clearly indicating the highly specific danger these mobs posses

ITS TOTALLY INVISIBLE AND COMPLETELY NOT MY FAULT FUCKING NERF THIS SHIT GEEGEEGEE HOLY FUCK THIS GAME IS SO BAD
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Havent been able to play because of the holidays, are there any good uniques that came from talisman?
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>>127134617
a flask that gives you 30% instant leech from lightning damage
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>>127134603
They are not coloured. It were those birds that fly at you, they just instantly die and with ice crash it covers everything.

I can see reflect clearly I can't see beaerers because I have to hover over them which you can't really and its stupid to hover over every blue enemy and I don't really want to turn effects off even though I can just to see bearers therefore I just lay away this game for a while.

It's a stupid design choice where did I say this game is bad?

Torment / bloodlines was worst league I played though. Ghosts - terrible idea. Bloodlines even more boring regular hardcore was better to play then bloodlines sadly because you didn't get oneshot randomly by some overpowered legacy of zeal single skeleton.
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>>127134773
wasn't it instant leech from all damage?
just 30% lightning vamp
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>>127134603
Since when are the mobs colored? You would have a point if the targeting system wasnt so fucking as but everybody knows very well that reading the mob affixes cuts your clearing speed in half so no one does it.

The old reflect packs has a bright indicator and there was no reason to die to them. But mobs with Bloodlines mods? They have nothing that indicates that they have shit. I lost track of how often Whirling Blades has saved me in this league because I simply evaded bearers, totems etc.
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>>127136278
yeah, the instant leech and the 30% lightning leech are separate effects
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>>127136315
only blue packs can have bloodline mods, It's pretty easy to quickly hover over them. Sometimes the situation doesn't allow a quick read, but in those cases you watch the fucking floor.
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>>127135505
PoeHuD can alert you about those mobs with a message or sound. It's kinda retarded how GGG refuses to add QoL features it's better to spend time creating skills nobody will ever use.
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>>127134773
>>127136278
Yes it is instant leech from all damage. Basically Vaal Pact in a bottle. There seems to be something bugged without it though because my health still moved when I tested it in a reflect map. With 30% instant life leech your health shouldnt do that.

>>127136506
I didnt say that its hard to see. I simply debunked your claim that they were 'brightly colored mobs'. They are normal magic mobs, nothing else.
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>>127136672
it's pretty fucking obvious when you're fighting magic mobs, yeah they're not neon fucking pink but come on there is a clear color distinction that is very hard to miss.
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Any decent SC guilds? ain't nobody got time for that hc shit.
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nice game poetards
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>>127137045
I mean, considering all the shit on the screen, talismans, totem auras, rare packs, mob density etc I would say that anything is strictly speaking easy to see in this game. Throw curses on top of it and you cant see shit unless you pay a lot of attention. Might just be my opinion though.
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>block cybils blade vortex
>reckoning curse on hit warlords mark
>stable 5fps

nice game poeturds
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>>127120131
because they have their gems inside of it
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>>127136645
What's the status on PoeHud after the ban wave a few weeks ago? I see a lot of people still using it: Did they rework their anti-anticheat system? Did GGG stopped giving a fuck?
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>>127138171
it's safe now
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>>127138171
>anticheat
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There should be Paid Leagues where GGG allows you to use any 3rd party tool you see fit
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Leveling master and completing challenges without the HUD is akin a to slowly drives rusty nails under your nails.
I prefer to be ban than to ply without this. It's a win/win situation.
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>>127139190
did people banned recently appeal it / got unbanned?
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>cheating at poe

people actually do this lol?????
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>>127139613
its not unlike grabbing more life nodes than you should according to your starting point or using defense gimmicks that arent meant for your class
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>>127139756
those are nothing alike, silly poopybuttshitcrow
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>>127139613
Since all the major functions of the Hud are now integrated in the game, it looks like you're cheating too, dumb catposter.
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>>127139613
>cheating
>things the slow as fuck GGG team is slowly adding to the game
It's been 4-5 years and still no in game trade system, if we wait for GGG to add QoL like seeing item mods tier and weapons dps in game or knowing what the fuck was loaded into your map we will be old farts with alzheimer.
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>>127139613
>game client is reading information sent to my computer by the servers
>somehow if I read it too I'm cheating
>I'm not allowed to read the information sent to my own fucking computer that I own and which is mine and, information written in my own RAM which I paid with my money by working on my own hours, information that transited through means of communication I pay for, information that is freely there for the taking in a clear unencrypted way "HEY LOOK THIS MASTER IS IN THIS MAP"
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I've been playing since 15 december. Am I doing ok? I just spent 30chaos on something.
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>>127141512
dont be ridiculous anon

GGG isnt suing you and you wont be extradited to face trail in new zeland over using cheats

no one is claiming youve got no right to do it, if you want

HOWEVER, by playing the game you are implicitly agreeing to a ToS document, which terms you are breaking by using such cheats, hence they deny service to you if they find out
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:^)
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CA-CAW CA-CAW
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>>127141592
You either dont play a lot or suck ridiculously hard at the game.
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>visit alkaizer's stream
>he's been offline for hours
>there's still thousands of people in it spamming chat
You guys ever been to one of those old Counter-Strike servers lately? It's scary as shit when bots post pre-made messages or have never ending conversations that are still going on to this day if the server is up.
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>>127141592
you have the stash of someone who doesn't have a shop. I know because some leagues I just don't bother, and then my stash is similar to yours. And some leagues I set up a shop, and then my stash is full of exalts.
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>>127142370
The fuck are you talking about. He was just streaming and was almost at level 100 but then he disconnected or was DDOS'd and died. He hasn't been 'offline for hours'
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>>127142370
nice kot
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>>127142542
you sure told him lil buddy xD
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WTF I have a feeling Alkaizer staged that death. Theres just no way
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>>127142180
>4 bars to 100
I would be mad as well
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>>127142272
i do
>>127142404
I get shitty uniques to be selling see: >>127122641 At most I'd be making a few chaos out of these
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>>127142829
I ripped a character with 6link and everything like 3 days ago. My current char is 88, has 2 days play time and probably made the money you have in your stash. And thats almost all just from Chaos recipes and some drops. Youre definitely doing something wrong. I am even excluding my drops that I sold because thats RNG.

If you play efficiently is takes you like a day to make 20-30c via Chaos recipe alone.
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Does the import item data button on POE trade even work anymore?

It used to work but now it fills the damn boxes with billions of mods (including implict shit) and never finds any results.
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>>127142736
IT WAS 1 BAR
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>>127142829
Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Last league I sold a Goldrim 30 chaos, so maybe there's that (hat in the top right). The way you're making money is good rare or a lucky unique drop worth a few ex. 1-chaos unique are not gonna get you that far. That Cybil claw and Draresso chest could net you a few chaos though. Good luck.
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alkaizerx...
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I hate catposters.
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Any one else think he ripped himself deliberately?
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>guy who I argued over Skyforth with earlier went from 20ex to 13ex b/o in ~5 hours
So, how long will this keep going? When will his price settle down?
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>>127143615
t-that's fine
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>>127143987
what site is this?
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how did alkaizer die?
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>>127146052
DC
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>>127146052
he was looking at a picture of a cat and died
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>>127146098
>>127146174
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>>127138171
>>127138312

Say i dont stream... is it safe to use for me?
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Have you ever seen the TRUE face of autism, exile?
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>>127145708
currency.poe.trade
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>>127146793
The Hud is an overlay. It doesn't show on stream if you don't want it to.
GGG has the mean to detect it now.
The only questions left are:
1. Will GGG do another ban wave or are they content with scaring shitless a lot of people into not using it.
2. Are you Okay with losing your account and every $$ you put into it. Remember that if you get banned and start another account, you'll start with the 4 default stash tab.
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>>127147210
ty
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>>127147445

Heh. I would rather not risk it, since i am doing fine, for a scrub of 4 years...

Still, im tempted to do it on another one that i have.

Cheers for ifo though.
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>>127147768
It's shit don't bother every ratio is completely wrong besides like Ex:Chaos
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>make flicker strike build
>turns out poachers has 25% chance for frenzies
>build trashed
wtf was everyone hyping this shit for
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>>127148019
>What is blood rage
>What are blood dances
>What is the Oro flicker build
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>keep dying at element reflect mobs that are outside of the screen
fun game
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>>127149279
>tutorialcore
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>try to make something outside the meta
>it's never as good as the meta
what a shit game. why don't I just roll tornado shit or firestorm every league? It's literally the easiest and best way unless you have the dosh for vaal spark

see you in ascension
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>>127149508
>GGG apologists excusing horrible game design when they could easily make the aura activate only within a screen distance
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>>127100935
this is next level bait, I'm saving this for a future copy pasta
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>>127149829
every single d2-like arpg ive player has the same issue with reflect so

maybe its a thing within the genre, and not really a personal affront to by ggg?
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>>127150141
>the same issue with reflect so
Why is it an issue again? Because youre not checking what youre attacking?
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>>127149829
>aura
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I am really lacking in dex for my gems. Should I just grab a +30 dex node and be done with it or should I try to constantly get a little bit of dex in my gear? Which one is more worth it?
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>>127151178
ideally get it on gear

30 stat nodes are only when absolutely necessary, usually
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is voltaxic la any good?

looking for a bow build with good clear speed for solo maps
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>>127150817

in poe things outside of your viewing range can reflect, or in games like tl2, some mobs can "fracture" and their spawns have a random chance to have champion/hero modifiers, which means a chance for reflect.
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>>127151290
I see, thanks.
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>>127151434
So what? Pay attention to what youre hitting and stop mindlessly throwing out shit. The game has actual problems and you people waste your time complaining about shit as inane as this. Something that can easily be avoided by paying attention.
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>>127151717
If you're right next to a 30 node you should just grab it.

You can respec out of it later at higher levels when your gear isn't changing all the time.
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Hi how long has it been since the new league has launched?

A-am I too late to start?
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>>127152185
ill repeat:

things outside your viewing range can reflect.

you cant pay attention to things you cant see.

youd be aware of this if you ever play shit like EA or fb
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How strong is the bino regen? Do I not need to use pots ever?
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>>127152490
started on 11th of december, gonna last till like march, you're not too late
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>>127153031
you need to use pots when you get bursted or when your regen isnt up
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poe trade down fuck me m8
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>>127152714
>things outside your viewing range can reflect.
>you cant pay attention to things you cant see.
You literally said that there is shit that fractures into reflect. There you go, dont mindlessly attack shit that fractures. Apart from that: just dont attack shit at the edge of your screen. Boom, you cant hit stuff outside your view range anymore.

>youd be aware of this if you ever play shit like EA or fb
I dont play meme burn builds so no, I wouldnt know. But if I was playing them I would run around with 3 Ruby Flasks thats for sure and just spam them.
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So when will we finally get a wand exclusive lightning themed movement skill? How am I supposed to ever not use daggers with the only alternative being Lightning Warp.
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when does the new stuff come out

like the extra dungeons, class based skills and shit
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>>127153351
I just got it on a CI because value stats, so I'm not benefiting from it at all

I dont know if i should travel to Zealots Oath or not

playing CI Flicker on a temp league was a horrible idea
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>>127153481
>There you go, dont mindlessly attack shit that fractures

in that game, many spells and attacks have a duration after you cast them. hence the problem with fracturers.

>I dont play

so you replying while having zero clue about the mechanics of skills that have problem with unintentional reflect in poe?

fuck of shitman
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>>127153793
>zero clue about the mechanics of skills that have problem with unintentional reflect in poe?
This isnt exclusive to the two skills youre using. Especially since FB can easily be played in a way to never leave your vision range. You have a point regarding EA, but thats it. I would go as far as claim that Arc is probably worse than both because you have literally no control over it. And you can easily resolve these issues with leech, over capped resistances etc.
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>tfw memes are dead
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>>127154189
EA builds dont really suffer from reflect unless you maybe unload a 5 stack on a giant pack, and even then you'll probably survive
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>>127154329
the problem with ea is you can do big damage so early on that your defenses arent fully set up

better to go RT for a while, because having 2 arrows pop near a reflect rare can kill you unless you have 79+ resists

>>127154189
ea and fb can also overlap damage from multiple projectiles on a single reflect rare, and have less dmg variance than arc
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>alch a super epic arcanists
>only to be met with disappointment
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>>127155237
should've alched the map instead desu
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>>127155237
>being on that shitty gay guild
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>>127154760
>and have less dmg variance than arc
Which makes them easier to predict.

>fb can also overlap damage from multiple projectiles
Since when is FB a projectile? And since when is there more than one ring? And since when do you not play burn FB but actual 'channel me up Scotty' FB?
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>>127155348
>alch a 68

m8
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>>127155581
fb built for the explosion, specially when at the edge of your screen or farther, can easily overlap 2 explosions, with echo that means 4 explosions
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>>127155814
why not? at this point you should have enough alchs anyway, and an alched map usually nets you an alch or equivalent worth back anyway, with the chance of actually dropping something better. and since it's a low level map you don't even have to worry about any mods.
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>>127156097
alching t1s is pointless
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>just got one shot by a big vaal guy with powerful crits having 4500 hp and 5000 es
Pretty cool.
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>>127156097
>at this point you should have enough alchs anyway

youll use all of them soon enough m8. no need to waste
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>>127156253
I still alch crypt maps from time to time because >muh celestial justicar
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Whats the best build for Void Battery? Wanted to use it with my Storm Caller but just ripped that/
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>>127157205
shattershooter probably.
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LC+avian twins = shock that goes away instantly??
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>>127157872
Huh?
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I'm doing double strike 2h axe marauder all the way to rank 1 and none of you bitches can stop me.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1535744/page/1

How the shit does this nigger get 88k tooltip on fp?
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Alright, so I guess its time for another attempt to make self cast Discharge work.

Should I go for Volls or get proper defense? Proper defense would probably be better. Are there some meme items I should run with it? I mean, apart from the Void Battery I have, the obvious Voll's Devotion and the Meme Crit gloves. Some jewels that are useful for it that I am overlooking right now?

If someone of you has a high quality Discharge in THC to sell, let me know.
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>>127158532
>GMP

it shit senpai

also

>elemental damage tooltips
>freezing pulse
lmao.
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>>127158841
tell me how fuckboy
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>>127158532
Izaros Turmoil basically gives him 40% increased damage and all the conversion ramps up the dps. Its still FP, though. FP without freeze is fucking retarded. The entire point of the skill is to have a defensive layer. Turning all the damage into Chaos makes you so fucking vulnerable its not even funny.
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>>127159061
i looked at his tree and it has no turmoil
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>>127159001
>maligaros
>powercharges
>crit

its not even that high tbqh family
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1-5 poison bladefall
6-0 non-poison bladefall
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>buy 17% Discharge for 1 Chaos
I am fine with that
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What's the point of divination cards when the map level penalty applies to their drop rate?
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>>127159515
>20c for a 20q
>1-5c for anything under
Nice game poetards
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>>127159678
>What's the point of divination cards
money sink hole for funders
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>>127159678
Whats the point of Divination cards if the entire system doesnt even promote farming them because farming currency will ALWAYS be more efficient than farming Divination cards?
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>>127159678
iirc the drop penalty only apllies for are level sub 68, afterwards there is no drop penalty, only exp penalty. So any div card dropping in maps has the regular drop rate. Non map div cards are retarded to farm, especially rare shit like pride before fall, you'll outlevel the area easily before even seeing one card
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>>127153343
>gonna last till like march
youvegottabefuckingwithme
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>>127160009
Temp league are always 3 months (used to be 4). We are 3 weeks in. What are you surprised about.
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I don't come here often, what's the opinion of ZiggyD?
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>>127160397
He's a cutie, i would like to ravage his boipucci.
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>be me
>be poor arc crit mage
>identify random unique ring
>call of the brotherhood
>mfw
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>>127160397
Some people enjoy his videos, others find him annoying. Personally, I find some parts of his fanbase to be cancer, but the guy himself I have no problem with. Its not like he personally does anything that affects any of us.
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>>127160397
streamers in general are cancer to this game
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>>127160937
>>be me

stop doing this
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>>127160397
there is literally nothing wrong with
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>>127161357
s-sorry I just needed to share this moment with someone. ;_;
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>>127160397
gay retard cunt
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>do Chaos recipe for 45 Chaos
>roll back
>sets me back to 20 done
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>127161483
that's ok animeposter you're among friends here
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>>127161708
no xhes not
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>>127154760
>better to go RT for a while, because having 2 arrows pop near a reflect rare can kill you unless you have 79+ resists

you have never played EA right? You can easily tank a full 5 fuse reflect into a group and walk away without noticing. Reflect packs are a big difference but the rares are hardly noticeable even without a ruby flask.
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>>127161637
>bought stash tabs
>>>/plebbit/
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>>127152714
>>127149829
>>127149279
shut up moron reflect isn't an issue anymore, they casualized the mechanic beyond believe, because the shitters complaint for years.

Reflect is there so that you care about your defense, So you can't go full glasscannon. Only people wit 3.5k health and 100k dps die to reflect. No go
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>>127159678
Sup ziggy, I remember you from back in early starcraft 2 days. It's nice you want to bring the community together and share knowledge of the game, and it's a shame that the general relations of people as a whole cause a community's vocal majorities to diminish the repertoire of topics and discourse. Nobody can contain their fans, but if there's anything I'd say to almost any of the "top names" in the PoE community, it's that you should always remind people to continually think for themselves; ask what they want from builds and what they can do to change outlines to fit what they need. Build guides and such are nice, but leading a herd of sheep is hollow.`
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>>127161881
>you have never played EA right?

ive ripped EA builds twice to reflect, on different stages of progress

i can confidently say your build either did very little damage or you are talking out of your ass
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got a goddess bound. what the fuck is this gay shit and why does anyone care
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1-5 play grim downs
6-9 play warframe
0 - play poe
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tfw when your build is going nowhere and you cant afford anything you need to fix it
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>>127164864
goddamn i just came to post that


fucking christ i suck at poe
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>Doing Act 4 boost runs
>Someone joins in
>Create a tp to Piety
>Bring him to Malachai phase 1
>trade the player
>Cancels trade twice then goes below Malchai
>His build seemed tanky enough, he didn't need a boost
>He was never planning to pay just wanted to skip for free
>Spam Frost walls in his way to increase the difficulty, almost rips but enters portal
>Comes back and keeps killing Malachai, untill he hicks up and gets stuck in a Frost Wall and RIPs
>Cusses me out and tells me fuck you

Good show.
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>>127165154
me too

but at least i can still go back to ele bow if my wander doesnt pan out how i want
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>>127165293
fuck you nigger
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>>127100935
>>127100495
>>127099781
>>127099158
>>127098529
fucking rekt you shit cunt scrub
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>>127166408
that was just one guy samefagging trying to keep the thread alive in new years eve tbhonest
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>>127165293
>not going into the malachai fight with him and dropping a stash tab full of bonespire talismans
>>
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>>127168046
ultimate lel
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>>127168046
>>
>watch mathil's stream for a few minutes
>i enjoy alcohol for the taste


who the fuck
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>>127168046
should submit your hideout to ggg for HOTW consideration
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>>127168608
>who the fuck
alcoholics. some other grown ups.
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>>127168608
are you 15?

have you never had a decent scotch/beer/red wine in your life?
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>>127168608
mathil's a total chadbro that all the beta reddit keks look up to. it's actually quite sad
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>>127169562
>chadbro
>beta
>kek
>all in the same sentence
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>>127169892
it hurt me too, but so does people posting with anime reaction pictures
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>>127169892
get out mathil
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>>127170112
literally nothing wrong with anime

>>127170137
no
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>>127169892
jelly of my memepoetry?
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Who here /memebuild/?
Leveling a RF totems build with flame totems, I can't wait to switch to them.
Even if they're bad, I can still do an IW flame totem build without having to spend much on respec
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>>127167060
it really wasn't - I was the guy who made mispellings because I was on my ipad, I thought he was pretending to be retarded but he kept posting
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Quick what is the safest build on Talisman HC right now?
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>>127172468
Depends what you mean by safe, standard safe? hardcore safe? If neithe then flicker strike seeing as you don't lose anything on death.
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>>127172468
firestorm pledge of bands kaom
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what's the elemental resistance cap for totems? some time ago I think someone said they were uncapped, but I can't find source, could this be true?
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>>127172782
Google it friend.
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What is it that gets girls to play runescape but none of them play poe?
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>>127175214
who cares?
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>nobody in the top50 has a colosseum map
>lvl100s that never get out of t13s
>ggg in charge of map drops
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is voltaxic la any good?

looking for a bow build with good clear speed for solo maps
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>>127176217
why not RMT them?
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>>127176487
it is retarded. Slap on poison gem and see anything melting. GL
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>>127176217
>map drops have only been buffed since 2.0

how can they still be so bad
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>>127148019
Just do Oro Flicker.
Physicall will shit itself and land you in a pack of magics or "allies cannot die" packs with no charges regularly.

With Oro's and 50% and above ignite chance you can keep hopping forever.
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my hands are ahaking imfg i didd it 4 ex wirth of fusign

yessessssssss
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>>127175214
same thing that made them play ro and aion

mmos are more social so more conductive to attention whoring

arpgs are for auties
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>>127177131
>taskbar
>all that spyware, normie shit
>4:3 monitor

i want reddit to leave
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>>127177131
>4g volls

das it
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>>127168038
Bonespire only works on the boss not adds, no need to drop an entire stash.
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>>127177360
no spyware, normie shit?
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>>127177131
>starkonjas
>tabula

wow its fucking nothing. a literal 10ex value of a 6L chest!
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>>127153661
I actually did the very same thing you did.
Made a physical CI flicker build, got to 65, equip binos and flicker, realize I need to waste 8 points to travel to zealots oath to benefit from bino regen, hop into merc docks, start flicker on the first pack, almost die because physical flicker is fucking retarded if you don't oneshot, and to oneshot you need abyssus, and by wearing abyssus you get oneshot yourself.
Character dropped.

Softcorest of softcore builds.
And even then you get killed if you happen to run out of charges in a big pack.
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>>127177663
ive been running on scraps because i was pouring all the fruits of my farming into the voll's this whole...

at least my wand is decent. 11.04 perf 38% crit roll imbued w/ 90 base light to spells, 80% spell dmg 26% multi...
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>>127177924
gz doooooood
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>>127153661
>>127177823
Use an oro's. Flicker's taken too many hits to be used without mirrored gear.
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>>127177924
what's your build?
barrage CoC bladefall?
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>>127178532
yes and having conc effect has nearly doubled its avg. damage
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>>127178621
doesn't conc effect hurt your clearspeed too much? because of the lost aoe.

asking because Im doing same build, but bladefall + vortex with no damage support like conc effect.
packs get oneshot on proc, vortex kills stragglers when I run between packs.

how do you sustain mana/life/es?
link tree perhaps?
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>>127179063
I run life leech in my voll's red with vaal pact, when bladefall procs it's a crazy amount. also curse on hit double heralds warlords mark. I haven't tried blade vortex as my available socket is blue. Haven't honestly done much clearing yet with conc effect since i just got it but it doesn't seem to be an issue, its compensated by some increased aoe nodes. If i find it doesnt work out as well as i like i can swap it out for added chaos/lightning or crit multi there's a lot of good options for a blue socket even something cheeky like item rarity.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAsNii2SHAyBT1b2qMFr91_SaVhG9h4tRCVUu1SIw2bWyJ0zY953TssHBSnaobyOjWjAsqC2yMz93jhCLqBbW5fF3yYqzxig3RDkjDOo2_Y0MRlpu1KjhRR9Qjf8YHHl-whMU31N7451QwfDBxkyeio5UuykrtP6R4JP2Nfd2o74jB8_DVb57B1f_eI_ZLePk3lSCCHo_6SVHxs4MJnKRNkjpC188tH9sL6_VLV4cTSbFMs2SdwON3ByBurrMEB5eV8h1QMEGWg9tSU9te0PVVxj1fl_Q6WG0ZCPTAVLzqakObJjIBshnPemHrelM=
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>>127179063
Also i run 3 of the unique volley fire jewels so a gigantic amount of bladefalls happen, pretty much more than one for every monster in a pack. That might also be why conc effect isnt hurting my clear.
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>ziggyd has 2.5k viewers
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>>127179872
how can you run 3 volley jewels if only 1 of your sockets has 50 dex allocated in a medium radius? I think you fucked up there.

What's the deal with EB? how do you sustain mana after your ES breaks?
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>>127180534
the mana cost on wand skills is incredibly low

1 es on hit jewel should be more than enough to sustain

maybe 1 elreon too
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>>127180534
actually scratch that. with your pathing, none of your volley jewels work.
>>
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>>127180715
yeah I guess that works for life-based.

I'm hybrid however so EB is suicide.
2x mana on hit jewels would be fine I reckon?
currently using thief's torment
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>>127181107
Of course its gonna say 0 online if you have no friends in the game
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>>127180784
All 3 of them work.
>tfw no life cos lv 77 still
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>>127181478
huh.
actually forgot about those +20 nodes.
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>>127177041
Just imagine that:
>Tier 1 has 0.1 chance of dropping
>Tier 5 has 0.08
>Tier 10 has 0.03
>Tier 15 has 0.005
Even if you buff these fake drop chances by 5, it's still very low, now adding insult to injury, you can drop any map tier at any time.

If the map drop was limited to 3 tiers below or 2 maximum, it would alleviate players frustations by a lot, there's no reason why a tier 10 might give you tier 1-6 maps.

>do a tier 10
>it can only drop tier 8-12 maps
I can only dream about this...
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>>127184006
getting lower maps when you're high up is nice because you can sell them

i wouldn't mind getting some gorges or plateaus out of an abyss

the problem is the maps you want don't drop enough. getting rid of the low shit won't fix that
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>he plays softcore.
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>>127185879
good post

everyone must remember to bully shitcrows on a daily basis
>>
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that POE is for virgins?
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>>127186653
how fucking new are you.
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>>127185879
the novelty of HC wears off fast. i got a lv 81 on it and realized its unfun as fuck to not be able to take crazy risks with stupidly hard vaal'd maps and wipe on them while laughing with your friends who you always have the option of playing with because they aren't dying left and right.

been playing on sc for a few days now because of it. having way more fun with a much riskier build and having more people to play with. I think HC is fun and everyone should play it but not for an entire league.
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>>127187328
Would you like to join the SC guild?
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>>127187328
and to be clear i am a roguelike player, i appreciate permadeath mechanics as much as anyone, but a character in a roguelike does not take long to finish compared to a poe league. And most roguelikes dont just infinitely ramp up the diff until you die either.
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>>127187328
I have never played Standard actively but I agree. Sometimes I wish I could just run around in Scrubcore and take risks instead of locking. I honestly think that I am already a pretty risky HC player who doesnt lock out the second he drops below 50%, but sometimes I would really love to just stay in the instance and try to just dodge instead of accepting that the risk is too big.

Thats the only part about softcore I like, though. Also because I hate grouping in ARPG so 'losing' my friends to deaths isnt a big deal to me since I dont map with them anyway.
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>>127186653
im technically not a virgin, but then i've not had sex in like 10 years (i wasnt always a no life gamer)
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>>127188547

yeah last time i was in a vagina was about 28 years ago
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if ANYONE has any chains that bind and/or prosperity cards in the hc talisman league i will LITERALLY buy them from you for a jewish amount because i am broke right now but the favor would be appreciated ty
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>>127188547
>>127189671
rough stuff lads, rough stuff
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>>127177131
I'm more impressed with the 4G Voll to be honest.
How many Chrom? Vorici or manual?
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Running Glacial Hammer on SC talisman
just lvling now (a1c), got a meh 1h mace + ungils for the crits

I shatter packs like crazy but single target dps for bosses is shit. Just swap melee splash for some sxtra damage when fighting bosses?
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>>127190360
DAS EEIT MANE

nice scbuild btw
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>>127190495
eh with MoM, Phase Acro, enfeeble and life leech on blade vortex I'm tanky as fuck.
>>
Grim Dawn WW@
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>>127190948
>MoM
>phase acro
>life leech linked to BV

lnaio

>>127191084
im in the /v/ thread too, I think we should change /poeg/ to /aRPGg/ - would make for more quality discussion.
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I'm lv 73, Consuming Dark + Infernal Mantle for jack-crap DPS

halp
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>>127191750
link skill tree
i hope you critting like a mad man
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>>127191436
Oh shut up. Arpg nowadays are too different to be thrown in the same thread together just because your "not flavour of the month" game does not have enough people to keep a thread alive.

Also we would cannibalize eachother.
>this game is better
>no, my game is better
>hey guys look at this new indie arpg
>shut up retard, everybody is playing x game
>nobody is playing x game
>i'm playing x game
>you're a retard for not playing y-game
>y-game is p2w and you should feel bad for playing it
>rmt something something
>arpgs >not rmting

>do you guys think a build with x item would work
>which game?
>X-arpg
>who the fuck plays x-arpg

Oh the infinite shitposting circle.
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>>127191436

v and vg threads are too different m8

v threads are about liking games

vg threads are about disliking them
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>>127191892
nah. like 20% crit, may as well use controlled destruction.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEBwSzBg4HpQn2C2EOPBBYEMwRLRQgFHEZLho4Gj4fAiW8Jy8n7SkuKhMrtiycLKcyNDLROlg62EVHRZ1G10mySsRTUlXGVw1Y5VnzWiteXV8_Y_1mnmjycYVyD3aseuZ8g3y4ffWCB4IQgpuD24dljEaQVZo7muCiAKPyp5SsmK2Nr2yvt7FCwGbE9sauz37R_dIh1HzVptlh2XzaudtP37Dfv-DD4XPr7uw47TzvDvAf8WzxrPIv8kH2rviT

need the +30 dex node for some gear.

how do i git gud ;_;
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>>127191750
Spell totem+bladefall+poison, go.
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>>127192616
is that lmp socketed in your ft?
change to the jewel as soon as you can if it is
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>>127192616
MY EYES
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>>127150141
>every single d2-like arpg ive player has the same issue with reflect so
The only one I've played where it's as pervasive is PoE

Diablo 2 had Iron Maiden but you could completely negate it by being ranged or by not dealing any physical damage.

>>127150823
Right. It used to be an aura it's a carry over. Affix or whatever durrr
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>>127192616

also the jewel for free spell damage when no mana is reserved
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>>127192889
d3 reflect is hilarious

then again nobody plays hc on d3
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>>127193180

i did at one point

but then it feels a bit pointless. since youd just build the exact same as in sc
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>>127192616
save respec points and just go hybrid chaos crit ft and just run discipline until your mana is ready for more
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>>127192620
no LMP, FT gives extra projectiles at higher levels

>>127192898
trying to look for one but i dont have exalts ;_;

>>127193564
got a sample tree?

>>127192620
what do i respec? all fire damage nodes?
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>>127193180
isn't it just basically thorns that turns on and off? i don't really recall doing anything special to deal with it other than maybe attacking when the reflect was off.
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>>127194092

http://poeurl.com/vjG
something like that
you just go jewels when you need them or with the rest of your points. cast speed and crit multi is good for the jewels

controlled destruction works well on crit builds. if you manage a 20q added chaos and herald of fire it could be worth

run self cast assassins mark for the free crit and crit multi and ice spear-lmp-pcoc to keep powercharges up. you can go back to cruel and merci later to fix your bandit rewards if you missed the castspeed and powercharge
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>>127118342
yep
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Someday... they'll come back, right?
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>>127197731
ew reroll
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>>127197759
It prints money
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>/poeg/ so poor AND salty at the same time

its like pottery
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C|>:-D~
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>>127199573
90% of mtx are eyesores though
it's like ggg outsourced the art to a chinese studio who hadn't even taken half a glance at the game
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>>127200080
oh most most are terrible looking, but i guess seeing kids get mad at them may be worth it for people who buy that shit
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>>127200537
>kids
>>
just wondering

is flicker strike viable in high tier maps?
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How organised is your currency tab, poeg?
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>>127200928
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>mutated maw tora mission
>spam it in 820
>3 bebbitards join
>two of them die
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rate my cybils paw cast on damage taken build. Solaris lorica, fevered minds x6, 1x clear mind, those gloves that give 50% spell damage, daressos courage for spell block, the anvil for block, immortal flesh for es regen, those chaos res rings

discipline,hatred,wrath,herald of ice/thunder.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAB2E2UoNpiaHQYVvnoQYe3PoPMPC2DX8auxPavpz0PBjn7qvMGUWAn7Rku2WFXDfObaGXSIZ7N6dV5OX7iGj5fP_JBggfZfBRxDjzfv9tP4MMlvDpShmBhUu9OhtEnC4O2XhNAoMC_qZUM96yvG5dGt9NvLlPawYTvYuxNRsGCvryzP09WHt-31ttZLaixkL6AgwlGceGIHar-SbQMytO-iqEvkyd71--I-TfXz0mxbAsi9G0ZEVA1uR1PpystH0yzQkuFxd--0B_v69lbGyVLrukC34rqug18V8k3g6brLKaQ1ij6uJMc3I8a6-6nCJ2uGmz3wTdm
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>>127203608
shit i forgot the most important unique that basically makes the build
veil of the night
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what's a good tanky caster build these a-days?
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>>127165390
dude, just get double twyzels and go break faces
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>>127199573
this guy is such a faggot
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fucking great 10/10 secret GGG, tip my hat to you, the place had shit loot though
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>>127203608
soo it turns out it's shit
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So this is pretty much, "Get as OP as you can mathematically get yourself:The Game" ?
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>>127142180
Holy shit. And I was there watching his stream earlier.
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>>127206069
every d2-like arpg can be described like that
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>>127206243
it's like you were in dallas for the kennedy assassination kinda
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>>127205429
Yep, it's fucking garbage but was fun while it lasted..

Dominus totems ate my ES so fast
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Anyone selling Skyforth on TSC (inb4 shitcrow).
I'm done with this league so far and just want to experiment a little with the boots.
Have 11Ex pure and could get maybe 3-4 more today via trading my other currency.
I dont think they are worth 30Ex....
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>>127207513
POOPCROW
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>>127207513
>not worth 30ex
>lets you drop volls and/or pcoc
>mana reservation
>huge mana
>top ms
>more rare than shavs
yeah nah
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>>127207659
found the guy who lets his items rot in hope he gets his BS priced items sold.
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what are you guys having for lunch?
ham baguette with cheese and lettuce and a glass of pinot noir here
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>>127208265
fried tamales with oatmeal atole
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>>127208384
don't even know what that is, but it sounds disgusting
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>>127208419
its amazing
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