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>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
>Perk Deck Guide:
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
>Latest Updates Here:
>Mods and Lua:
I'm using Mindfug build with akimbo and sneaky bastard/low blow rogue perk deck and dodge because I haven't played in forever and it's what I used to use; does this still work or is other shit just way better now?
Best Crimefest II song.
>Still no new's year update,
Ded game, ded devs, ded UAR, ded Crook perk deck.
Happy New Year's heisters! What are your New Year's heisting resolutions?
Mine's to never miss another day. Only Russian bots are allowed to malfunction.
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Wasn't Even There! (i_wasnt_even_there)
- Sniperino (any_25_sniper_kills)
Let's keep those helmets flying well into the new year! ;)
>Side jobs Bot,
You're just fucking weird Overkill_Jules.
>What are your New Year's heisting resolutions?
To give a chance to Rogue+hostage taker builds.
On an unrelated note, does stability boosts make a difference on the Whatever .357 or not ?
Thanks for the free crash Ovk.
>mfw seeing an infamous II sales hitter getting in custody twice on FF day 3 DW loud.
Where's your ecm god now ?
not sure what i expected but i got something in the end.
Link to his Bandcamp because the Steam group's official event only links to the youtube preview: https://simonviklund.bandcamp.com/album/orbot
Spent like 10 minutes trying to navigate the steam community group before I realised he probably posted a link on his Twitter.
>17 concealment piglet on a masterfug build,
Would you ?
>implying that the Valve system is in any way better,
>new Dance of the Turbo Tribe
>new Hold on Tight
I wasn't prepared for this.
Le balanced macaroni of free DW heists.
Daily reminder there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Moscovici and only salty ARfags are complaining about it.
Is there any mods to be able to use the retarded laser of the legendary santa skin on a single Crosskill ?
I want to pretend to be Terminator on my Techforcer build.
SO U BE SAYIN
*shoots a hostage*
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
*puts up two turrets*
AAAYYYOOO SO U BE SAYIN
*closes a door on Hoxout*
U BE SAYIN
*upgrades drills to silent*
HOL UP HOL UP
*ignores the beeping computer*
AYYYOO U BE SAYIN
*spams chat with PocoHud*
SO U BE SAYIN
*presses the wrong tile*
HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN
*runs over downed teammates*
WE GON BE
*drives a car into a wall*
FINNA WE GON BE
AYYYOO HOL UP WE GON BE
*pulls up flak jacket*
SO WE GON BE
*complains about dodgefags*
SO U SAYIN WE GON BE
*steals all the ammo*
*places a mine on a safe*
SO WE GON BE
*wears the Death Wish skull*
AYYYOO SOM FINA
*asks if you're playing stealth*
*jokers your last hostage*
WE GON BE
*ziplines on loud H&T*
*bags all the engines*
WE GON BE
*aces The Professional*
ON THE GOD DAMN GROUND
>mfw the only vanilla way to get Led Combo during the Hypetrain event was to complete the side jobs.
Shit was basically one weapon mod per week and you had to be lucky to get a "First line" challenge and not a Guessing game or FF day 3 stealth job. And fuck you if you desired to get more polymer light for your pistols, you would have to pray for rngesus to not laugh at you and give you another useless ported compensator.
afaik there's a wick glasses mask in the game, it's just hidden in the options and undroppable
any character can use it though, you just gotta put it in your inventory
>tfw you know you're not gonna have a fun game
I believe the PC community for this is supposed to be the best of all the communities.
I played this a lot on
PS4and have just got a PC built to be able to play games better than my usual crappy laptops.
Problem is having to level my character all over again so any advice on how to level quickly or are there people out there willing to let me join in on Houston's Breakout on a high difficulty to get a high amount of exp quickly?
>any advice on how to level quickly,
Stealth a Jewelry store DW job. It's really easy and you get like 20-30 levels in the process, not counting the pocket money to help you in the process,
Hoxton's breakout is only good in terms of money, it sucks on PC for the xp. Aftershock or Rats (if you're cooking 7 bags) are much more quick and rewarding.
Come into the chat of the steam group if you need an hand for your games,
>tfw you'll never experiment the 42 damage / 18 accuracy / 25 stability Car-4 from 2014 ever again,
AR can be fine, you just need to go for the best weapon mods so they can get good accuracy and stability at the same time.
RIP for the Valkyria though, it's fucked beyond any help.
Does the UAR finally have a good hipfire spread now with the rebalance update ?
Daily reminder the Car-4 is still on top of the Assault Rifle competition.
Something related since the interview with Almir and the 10k dollars offered to the Lastbullet site that's for sure..
>mfw seeing people using the predator 12G without enforcer's skills.
>mfw seeing people using the predator 12G
Hello heisters! The first set of side jobs of 2016 are in!
Today's Side Jobs are:
- Build A Raft Of Shields (any_25_shield_kills)
- Doctor Fantastic (doctor_fantastic)
Once again, Happy New Years and keep those helmets flying! ;)
Carrying newbies is kind of fun if they are at least a little bit capable. Use the lobby player info mod if you are interested in what your crew is using in terms of perks and skills. I can see why people don't want to install stuff like pocohud, but some mods are just straight upgrades for the experience without introducing anything that can be considered unfair.
>went infamous yet again so I'm only level 47 on a dodge build
>play a little riskier because I'm not horseshit and try to get the decoy container going before we even move all the gold
>literally 3 bulldozers and 2 cloakers dedicated just to me after I activate the decoy container
>"wtf why'd you rush"
>"should have put on armor retard"
Is there a way to turn off the Christmas lighting effect? It's hard to customize masks properly if you can't see what color they are.
It's starting to piss me off, too. I play any other heist and I get plenty of infamous teammates, but as soon as I touch slaughterhouse it's this weird clusterfuck of retarded lv. 20-50 players that do nothing but get downed and ask why you're wearing a suit.
I want to play dw loud but currently I'm not good enough, and I don't want to join dw games because they'll rightly kick me for being a shitter who can't play on dw. How do I git gud? ovk isn't hard enough to improve me a and soling isn't much fun.
Start with short and easy loud DWs. Ones with low bag counts to deal with to lessen the attention you have to pay to objectives.
H&Ts (aka. Bank Heists, probably Deposit first)
are my suggestions.
Then once you are comfortable with jumping into random DW pubs of those heists to do them loud, you move onto harder heists.
Rats / Cook Off
First World Bank
The only way to get better is to practice practice practice. If you don't want to listen to people yell at you for fucking up, you gotta practice by yourself.
Back in my day, when people were still DS FS Rats grinding, it really, really sucked to get successful lobbies going because everybody's a stealthshitter who keeps fucking up Diamond Stores, wants to stealth the airport hangars, always fucks up H&Ts on FS Day 3, and makes cooking 7 bags a tedious multi-try chore.
So I got gud.
I learned to solo that shit on PrOVK.
I spent many hours failing and failing and learning all the possible things that make me fail, make the bots fail, where every single fucking Cloaker and sniper spawn is.
Then I got bored and upgraded to DW to repeat the process.
I fucked up lots of lobbies.
I succeeded in lots of lobbies.
Then I started carrying lots of lobbies.
When everybody's shitposting with "git gud" responses, it is basically a condensed half-serious response of "put in the effort to getting better because there isn't a magical trick that lets you do well". We just get sick of repeating ourselves over and over again with the same response nobody reads and/or takes seriously because they want an easy way out, not the truth.
We have autists on YouTube doing solo loud DWs with no skills, and stock AMCARs and Chimano 88s. You think they can do that because they're born super pro? They probably put in dozens of hours if not hundreds to master that shit.
tl;dr - git gud
>has one of the biggest ammo pool and best reload time available,
>can get 40 damage easily,
>doesn't need any paid dlc mod, making it good for your games and your wallet,
Daily reminder that the CMP is one of the meta smg that Overkill secretly hates,
>laughing at the 40 damage breakpoint,
Post black-market baby spotted, if only you knew how much people had to pray to get a 40 damage smg in the old days,
Rip car shop
Daily reminder that anyone being under 500 hours, using ecm or suit deserved to be kicked from high level jobs,
Not really, especially since they made the stat boost free. People are just pissed that Overkill wanted to release even more paid content on an event celebrating free stuff and shit.
Most of the skins are ugly although the bodhi skins can be stylish at times.
>tfw Overkill introduce QTE elements into the game
>people think their shitty SMGs are "secret OP" or even "relevant"
L E L
Good afternoon /pdg/
I posted yesterday regarding that I played a lot of PD2 on
PS4and have finally invested in a PC built to play games and wondered if anyone is free to help me level up a few times and get some cash together?
I know normally the best mission for cash is the breakout on high difficulty but wondered if anyone is free?
Host offline meltdown and check the containers, there is always one that has a dozer in it. Skull on DW, Saiga on ovk and very hard and green on hard. There may not be one on normal, but I'm not entirely sure.
Breakout is fun, but takes too long to say it's good for farming. Aftershock is really short an easy and gives a very good amount of XP and money. Rats and cookoff are still great and I personally like White Christmas since pubs are less likely to fuck up, its fun and the payoff is good as well.
What's the best build that uses the LBV? I'm experimenting with a Crook build that includes aced Berserker, so you're pretty vulnerable, but you also dish out a lot of damage. Maybe something with Grinder? I've seen people using ExPres with Bulletproof and the LBV but I don't know if it's any good.
>b-but muh weapon l-legit and v-viable!1
>can't even 1shot anything worth shooting at on any difficulty at all
nice ammo efficiency
>ask for help,
>doesn't post ID,
i hate this. Also breakout a shit for farming.
Inspire is useless. If they go down, they don't deserve to be helped. If you insist on helping them, just kill everything around them.
Hell, if you can't res a pubby with grinder, nerves of steel, sneaky bastard, duck and cover, swan song aced, etc, you must be really fucking bad.
Why would you waste 50 points in the Mastercuck tree anyway?
On White Christmas, do the presents keep spawning if I don't pick them up? Should I ever find some sort of invincible camping point, can I just leave the game afk for a few hours and get all the presents at once?
>going afk in a police assault,
sure, i mean what could go wrong ?
>there are people who still don't realise the beauty of a CQC Clarion Rifle with maxed concealment.
Know what I miss? Being level 100 for even one heist.
25 levels of infamy is a fucking joke. Can't wait for 3.0 to force me to take it all the way to 100.
>no one's forcing you to do it, anon
Autism and achievements are, faggots.
Is it still possible for new players to get FWB and Slaughter safes or their timers are over already ?
k nevermind, i must have imagined it.
Daily reminder that BLT users are cheaters and deserves all to get kicked on sight.
>mw that the barrel of the Gimp legendary minigun doesn't even spin correctly when fired,
>On White Christmas, do the presents keep spawning if I don't pick them up?
What do you think happens to the boxes? Do you think they'll just sit around and stack up?
>Should I ever find some sort of invincible camping point
No such thing.
>can I just leave the game afk for a few hours and get all the presents at once?
I doubt you'll make it to the chopper with all the bags even if it were possible. We all know you just want to turn on PP and go afk. Might as well just bagdump into the chopper if you're going to cheat.
Well the RPG skin doesn't have a unique projectile model, and the Flamethrower one doesn't even have a third person model.
Overkill really put a lot of love and care into these skins.
Seriously how is deagle brand deagle meta preferable to the meta4? At least it made sense that an assault rifle was pretty good at killing.
I'm getting ready to infamy
Can someone tell me the best build to be optimal as a techie?
>can get a sight on top of it for comfier ADS,
Let's face it, it's as much broken as the macaroni.
The post said Bullseye is "good with Grinder" and put it in the same sentence as "Shotgun CQB is almost mandatory" which means the poster clearly thought it was worth bringing up so they think it's also "almost" mandatory or close, while also saying that it's worth more than running a Mosconi for a shotgun masterfug build.
I know how to read. The poster needs to learn to play without useless placebos like Bullseye.
>you can now put a milspec scope on your long-barrel Mosconi,
Yes or no ?
When a shotgun can get very high damage and concealment while still keeping a good ammo pool and even benefitting from critical hits if modded in the right way , it's understandable people are asking question about the balance in this game.
Only if I have lots of crowds to control and small areas to defend.
>he doesn't lock his krinkov in single-fire mode.
Sorry guys had to go out until now so couldn't respond. Steam name is Anfraxx_ With Hulk as a display picture, managed to get to 50 in pub games but that was your usual shoot first and get all the cops every time.
>tfw hearing genmcfatass saying the krinkov is OP
>crew getting on to do deathwish hoxton breakout in like 30 minutes
>join a normal jewlery store fo r a quick stealth bonus
>game starts with the host throwing a frag into the store
Anyone gud EU here?
I've approached my first Infamy and I wanna jump into Death Wish, but my current crew are bloody casuls and playing with random pubbies is hell.
I want some jolly cooperation with voice comms and solid advice and whatnot.
I play Inspire/Joker/medicbagbitch Mastermind
pls no bully i'm knowledgeable about the game i swear
I'm just bored and i failed to help pubbies for the last three jobs,
I mean I can totes respec out of Joker for something else I just like having a mobile tan hostage that also shoots cops and soaks up bullets and gives me bonuses
Is it really that bad?
>got more than twenty friends playing payday 2,
>more than half of them just stealth Bank Heist DW and don't want to play fun Overkill loud jobs,
pretty sure it was a /pdg/-tan drawing by a drawfag, but my memory is a little hazy
>Anyone gud EU here?
>I've approached my first Infamy
Well that's nice. That's like 10 hours of gameplay. Go out and play random easy games to learn the game and heists.
>and I wanna jump into Death Wish
Yeah, no. Stick to OVKs until you can actually solo carry them and are past V-100.
>but my current crew are bloody casuls
Usually salesbabbies can get 2 or 3 infamies within a week. You're just as casual.
>and playing with random pubbies is hell.
Spoiler: You are the random pubbie.
Don't act dumb,
those are the fucking casings you cockmongling retard
it's the mateba with the abortion of a short barrel on it
what I'd be more worried about is the fact that /pdg/-tan just managed to empty her cylinder of rounds one handed and is about to breach with fuckall ammo loaded
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Am The One Who Knocks (halloween_1)
- Target Practice: Assault Rifle (assault_rifle_100_kills)
Reminder that today is the last day to do the weekly Tabula Rasa side job for your Dillinger Death infamous mask! New Weekly Side Job comes out tomorrow!
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>achieve for killing a stupid amount of enemies with the Gruber Kurz
>It sucks so much ass
>It also is my only weapon with a skin that chav's the shit out it.
Fuuuuuuckkkk thhhhiiisss gaaaammmeee
I got it for free thanks to living in Cuckstralia and HM2 being unavailable.
He's easily one of the best characters, and not many people play him.
His SMG is fucking trash due to poor concealment and having to mod it so hard it looks like garbage. Completely unusable for deathwish, fine for memeing on overkill.
Perk deck, again, not for deathwish but fun as hell on overkill.
Of course not, that's for the baby deagle.
Finally, I can meme without having to use Overkill's plethora of dogshit primary weapons.
lobbyplayerinfo and you can see if people are skillless. They can still fuck it up by using a forbidden weapon or armor though. Most people online aren't good but most aren't malicious either
>Go gambler for some of that sexy team healing
>Dead presidents is better if every fucking away
Always look for the Captain near the start of the map.
Entrance lobby on Big Bank
Entrance lobby on Hoxton Breakout Day 2
Street on Rats Day 1
Street on Hotline Miami Day 1
Street right by van on Firestarter Day 1
Street by entrance lobby on Firestarter Day 2
With grinder? The most difficulty you'll face is when a bot goes down to a wall melding Cloaker. Without grinder it can be a bit of a scrape. Day 3 is the roughest because you can't get concealment low enough to feasibly stealth it and you can't really soften to blow by stealthing it up to a certain point. If you're having trouble, just restart until both of the power boxes are on the roof. It's easiest to defend them up there. The sniper can pop shields, cloakers, and tasers easily. The judge will mop up all the fodder. Dozers and cloakers nabbing bots were the roughest part for me.
I'm 99% certain they changed it so that you just wear the suit now. So Grinder is optimal, if not that, then Muscle or Rogue. For the Judge, since you can't get the shotty damage boost in Enforcer you want shark teeth and a module of your choice. They don't matter too much. Keep in mind you can use multiple judges and snipers for different stages of the heist, so you could keep two pairs of each, one for concealment on day 1, one for damage on days 2 and 3. Also, if you get the ambush on day 2, don't act dumb and try to sprint to the van. There's atleast 2 Cloakers on the path to it that spawn and you won't make it without movement speed increases.
i see, thanks a lot for the advice, im already over infamy V so i don't know why should i care for extra money bags, ill just rush the first 2 days and call it a day, really wish Overkill made you burn the money everytime on infamy so i could have a reason (besides filling the vault) to get the max amount of money per heist.
I would rather aim for actual uses for money rather than being stripped of it for infamy. Maybe useful situational assets that are expensive. Maybe the safe house customization we were teased with two years ago. Maybe an option when you completely fill up your vault to exchange all the money, for a 3 weapon PD:TH style equip range, so you can have a pistol, secondary, and primary.
Dump the saw skills in it and then remove it.
That's exactly the shit I wanted to do, but where the fuck do I allocate points from to do it? Sneaky bastard and bullseye seem like too big of a trade-off for it, and what's the point in going full -mind if you don't have inspire...
Yo, why the fuck havent they patched out Crime.net?
There is no fucking reason it should take longer than a heist just to fucking get INTO one.
>host has left the game
>host has left the game
>host has left the game
>You have been kicked (before you even left the black loading screen)
>host has left the game
>host is in a lobby but not actually at his computer, so he's wasting everyone's fucking time
>make it into a game, get kicked for no reason 15 seconds later
>game that has a high emphasis on subtly and using as little force as possible
>its best builds are about running around like a faggot blasting people in the face with shotguns
Nice game faggots, didn't know this was cod
You can do it on any fucking heist dude, is just 6 consecutive shots
If you suck, try with Watchdogs Day 2, or Shadow Raid loud at the start, or any heist other where you have access to their spawn point
>Sneaky bastard and bullseye seem like too big of a trade-off for it
They're not. They're optional. Bullseye is a waste of 4 points anyway.
40%base dodge from Rogue is good enough for loud DWs.
>Fuck you ninja cop
>that taser just got destroyeeed,
>hey, i'm giving you a great story for party here, ya's all,
>hey, if we have real problems, i'll give you the safe word "payday",
>hey, it's cops-city guys,
Booty confirmed for being the underage heister of the group.
>it's been months since the release of the side job feature,
>still the same grin masks, Dillinger agehao infamous and le reddit anonymous mask and no payday gang masks or just infamous materials or pattern,
It's alright, just go back to your VH job anon.
>People who set the map to something like Mallcrashers
>after the team is full they change it something else.
Joined a mallcrashers hard for a quick card and the guy changed it to over kill golden grin. All of my hate
>4 stores DW,
I'm not gonna bother an ecm rush tactic and coordinating with pubbies just for 60k of loot at best. Can't believe you get more money on a lower difficulties and Overkill doesn't try to balance things out.
>friend put a Slaughterhouse Ovk game,
>becomes instantly a Firestarter DW game,
I hate this feeling.
>180 dmg pistols
>flamethrowers and molotovs
>people still fail on ovk
>people still debate 'viability' of X
>people still treat the game not as a complete joke
>500 hours players pretending to be veterans
Was this posted already?
>Also the most handsome.
That's not Sokol
>caring about kills scores ever,
Damn, we're professional heisters, not psychopaths. You don't see the payday gang hunting the remaining units in their trailers or tasing them, do you ?
It's my main weapon now, one shots any cop in the head, tazers and cloackers, and you nedd like 5 bullets (or less) to kill green dozers in the face plate. Plus it is very accurate for long shots.
>implying the Mateba is not the worst revolver ever,
On an unrelated subject, does adding a stability boost on the Shitmaker and Whatever .357 help to make a difference or not ?
It's fine for DW, just make sure to avoid to reload it with its magazine empty, it takes like 4 seconds to load it.
In this game, you have to make a choice that will apply for every weapons: Aesthetics or stats ? There are no middle ground in this game.
>using a sight besides default on JP
>tfw pubbies not taking c4, saw or lockpicking skills for Nightclub Overkill,
Is there anyone who doesn't give a damn about the possibility of removing seven minutes of waiting from this job ?
>open the vault on Erection day plan C,
>12 money bags in it,
>mfw it gives almost as much money as the gold promised by the Elephant,
>people who are i10-25 that dont have transporter, fast hands, sprinter or drills
how is it possible to be this bad at such an easy game
>being this much of a steam forum shitter,
Enjoy being the whining vocal minority,
Gage weapon pack 01, Hotline Miami, Butcher BBQ, Sokol character pack and Gage Courier mod are god/meta tier.
Rest is mainly interesting for novelty effect,
>he doesn't like the levels, the commiessar or Evil Eye from the Hotline Miami dlc,
Fun levels with various objectives, decent weapons and Evil Eye being one of the best track of the game,
>mfw seeing high level players with just 4 Faks as deployable,
>24 civilians to handle,
>expecting the pubbies to be able to destroy the cams and answer,
>all for a score that will hardly go up to 1200k.
Just go loud and laugh at the swat turret trying to make its way slowly into the street, that's the best you'll ever gonna get on this map.
>Bane got new lines for Rats
I can only imagine what the first few days/weeks were like when that came out
>still no mod to replace your melee attack by a middlefinger feature you can point in front of your ennemies or fellow heisters.
That would be the greatest interaction you could have with your teammates since the RPG from the Overkill dlc.
Overkill, how hard is it to update PS4 and Xbox One versions every once in a while? They can run it, my $200 Laptop can handle the current build of Payday. I personally don't even care if you charge for it, just please add something? Weapons that are op as fuck on PC are absolute shit on crimewave edition due to no weapon balancing and the lack of updates and only 5 infamies makes the console version boring fast.
I don't know about Sony, but Microsoft charges fees whenever a developer updates their game. Overkill doesn't spend shekels, they hoard them. Microsoft also makes some developers list stuff that was intended to be free as paid DLC instead, but that'd be more of a upside for Overkill.
>playing pd2 on a console
>playing any fps with a controller
>digging through game files
>all the initial achievements used to have their own labels, now they're all [DLC]_nn where nn is some number
You can tell that the devs used to have little bits of fun with the game until they stopped giving a shit so they could shit out DLCs every week without problems.
>the ten Locke achievements are labeled berry and jerry 1 through 5
>ninja pack achievements are labeled turtles_1 through 4
>the two Aftershock achievements are labeled
To be fair, you can take it out pretty quickly if your whole crew starts blasting it straight away. Even regular ammo does the job. You only go down if you start torching the gate while ignoring the turret.
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Keep The Party Going (slakt_4)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)
This week's new Weekly Side Job is:
- Big Deal (big_deal)
Do it and get an Infamous quality The Grin mask!
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
The will to put up with RNG bullshit.
Seriously, patience. You're going to fuck up 10 times over an hour because you keep trying to rush it instead of just sitting there and taking 5-10 minutes per objective and running off to hide the moment something even feels off without reason.
Then you realise that stealth in this game is bullshit and not worth doing outside of achievements ever again.
Knowing the RNG.
Knowing guard patrol routes.
Knowing how, where, and when the AI likes to bug out.
Knowing safe spots to store loot and hide while waiting.
But mostly patience.
by learning to not rush,
>tfw still no footstep noises in this game
Just a random plot twist, kinda like how they suggested it was the Ayyy lmao who shot down Vlad's plane in White Xmas.
Don't expect any answers anytime soon.