New Year New Fuccboi Edition
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Beato: SHoT, Blue Receiving pass, Dark Crit damage, Green Crit
Nera: TW, Yellow Reflex, Green Pass, Red Pass
I'm lazy with nera so I use her for both CM and main passer with that stone setup.
Thanks. I'm actually using an almost identical setup, just I have neither of those uniques so some things are shuffled around.
Bea has been feeling a bit weaker for me recently but I'm not sure what I can do about it outside of getting SHoT/my last Nera superb and beelze.
D-did I win?
I use an EBM Yuri in FW to help with my damage. Meiran's passive stacking+active help too.
Assuming you're talking about PvE of course. In PvP, my beato's damage is pretty subpar, but still managed to get me into champion somehow.
I don't know if anyone noticed, but until a few hours ago and BB did a hotfix (http://cafe.naver.com/soccerspirits/747662) you absolutely couldn't lose points in PvP and you would get very high points on average if you did win your games, so there were people going the 2500->2600 stretch with 11 extras and such
This is what my team looks like currently. With Ere Ere in place of Silk for PvE. I do have an EBM but it's currently on VB.
My biggest issue with WW so far has been the lack of decent frontline totems outside of Kiki who I want to put in the back anyway, and their lackluster midline. I really need Meiran/Magnus though, and Quiyou could really do with rolling around again, I was taking a break from the game the last time she was available.
I've got a Silla knocking around so I could abandon mono altogether and go rainbow but I don't want to give up the dream.
Sucks that WW really wants to put nera mid, but that means if you are mono you have to find evylin. Wish i had realized how important she is when she was on rotation.
I'm in a similar place as you except I also have BT/Meiran/Magnus/rudiel but no silk. The other big problem im starting to run into besides the midline is that VB is useless because he has no access to CAR. Without being able to equip fontus he is useless even if he can go infinite since he just loses the ball and can't get it back instantly like khirel can.
I've already abandoned the mono dream. My PVP team is a dirty silla rainbow, so I can't really help you there.
I have a full superb Qiyou, but I don't use her at all. Hopefully Silk's EE will be nice.
>Silla ace is currently a necessity
You shouldn't be forced to use a player just to survive, strikers need nerfs and Silla/Luka since they allow players to get 100% pen so easily
>The reason strikers can OHKO is because SIlla and Luka givw 70% Pen, 20% crit, 30% attack, 20% pass effect
>Nerf both totems to be their element only
>Nerf Silla ace so its weaker than mono aces
>Nerf IC action bar start
>giving thunder more buffs
Give your ideas on "balance" more thought senpaitachi
He means that those nerfs would hurt everyone except monothunder, making thunder even stronger. He's still an idiot because you can pretty much always argue "but X balance change makes Y stronger or weaker and shouldn't". Thats why you do multiple rounds of balance patches or package thunder nerfs with silla/luka nerfs, it doesn't mean silla/luka nerfs are a bad idea
Yo /ssg/ what are your hopes regarding the game for next/current year?
So, the Beezle and BHS descriptions say something along the lines of "this effect doesnt stack"
What does that even mean? Do you only get to use one each of those, and then you have to level the rest with normal swirleys? Or what?
I have been playing around with meiran up front and she is a no go, but I am working on using her as a midline penetration as Nera's wingman.
Meiran will always active pass to the highest dribble player on her line. If I designate this to be Meiran that means meiran will penetrate and then pass. Pic related is my 3 superb Meiran after nera gives her the ball.
Those two actions trigger the 30% speed and 30% attack buff for the whole team for the entire match, right in the first few seconds of the match.
Sadly I have to kick duke off my midline for it to work. I would have to downgrade Luke to Victoria or Lia, someone else weak enough to make sure Nera's pass goes the right way. Duke has been pissing me off anyway so maybe this isn't so bad.
Meiran got a nice power boost with her EE at full superb. I actually planned to do what you said too.
I'm at work right now and don't have SS installed but I use 2x reflex and TW right now but I think I will switch TW for PoL and then my last slot has blooming.
Max superb =
Power - 241
Tech - 274
Vit - 310
Speed - 184
Put Lia just so you can also stack her action speed buff/debuff whenever she gets the ball.
Meiran's EE was actually pretty nice. Not blatantly OP, but managable as long as you invest in her
I really like the change. Just place her in the backline behind your attacker, stack a shit ton of totems like Miho and Magnus, and watch when it's finally her turn and she bashes her way from the backline to the frontline, giving the entire team 45% more damage and action speed in one go.
For those curious
Robin gained 128 stats spread out and fully superb + special trained has 1009 stats spread out no managers or beelzebubs
Meiran gained 107 stats spread out and has 1042 total fully superb + special trained no managers or beelzebubs
Since I know people were saying how EEs don't get more than a few stats yesterday.
Simply having meiran reach the front line resulted in:
Beatrice with 124 action speed
Baltheon with 121 action speed
Kiki at 99 action speed
That lasts the whole match.
Midway through the match if meiran or lia touch the ball again the teams action speed would go even higher than the numbers above. That could be fun.
i have kiki and lia in my backline but have been at a loss as to who put in the third position (I run 4man mid), would Meiran do well there with those 2 as totems? I also have a yuri that could be moved back there as well.
Also can someone check if Zibroi got a stealth reflex buff because mine in CM spot has 300 more reflex and I don't run any totems, new stones, rival chain and my ace has always been the same.
Played a few SSS teams to see what the meiran speed buff was like.
-Meiran penetrated to the front and passed to baltheon
-baltheon got his active off before their anal could move.
-beatrice failed to OHKO but badly wounded their isillia.
-GK passed ball to anal
>kiki was ready and meowed at her (now 30% stronger thanks to meiran)
>failed to steal but hurt her bad
>wounded anal tried to break out but died
Kiki was always the slow point on that fronline, but with 30% speed buff she seems to pounce on whoever the enemy GK hands the ball off to.
Another match Kiki smashed their Bell and hit her hard enough to turn her passive. My kiki has never, ever won a speed race against Bell before. Bell is still faster than her but at least RNG gives kiki a chance now a interdicting her.
Need to recover more PvP balls to test this new line some more. I may have just been playing shit teams.
More Meiran EE testing.
Another weak SSS team with an unprotected isillia (under 3k hp), so it was a OHKO at exactly 3:00. They enemy team never got an action in.
Once meiran is superbed this team should be a lot safer. For now it is pretty high risk and relies on an explosive start and overwhelming speed. Real 13k+ teams loaded with ICs would rip it apart.
Ive just started climbing ladder, and Im super confused. Why the hell is my team never using their actives? I basically sit on 3 bars of spirit the whole game, because the only people will to use their actives are my passers. Its not like they are all at one point either- Beth has 3, Sammy has 5, a couple others have at least two. But they just wont use them. Am I doing something wrong?
Found the Guy who didn't OHKO due to Robin
That's the most 4*s I've seen
I dont even know what im doing with this team anymore. Sammy over lia correct? Assuming max superbs and st
alright fuck it, recalling zibroi for lucian
After the Kevin recall, I'll be able to get a five superb Sharr. Then everything will finally be okay.
>Can you get a six star penguin from non-crystal penguin match?
Potentially yeah from the daily special card achievement
Should I scout. Already got Kei and I have Metatron as my legend.
Will post team in a minute.
William wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't almost impossible to stop him from shooting.
The return damage he deals to anyone attempting to steal from him us fucking retarded. It makes him easily the most frustrating legendary to play against.
My team. I would also like some advice as to how I should build my team, although I probably should just expect trolling.
In any case, I rolled Lucid and Uriel, should I replace cancer? Also, how do I know which players go where. I feel like my shit is a mess right now.
TL;DR I'm a huge fucking bronzie faggot and would like advice, trolling, or a combination of the two.
>tfw used William Luka Silla
>for some reason Silla always get the ball first
>Silla pass to Luka then Ative pass shoot
>always have enough spirit for combo with Silla pass
>switch to William Silla Renee with Ripboi Recall
>jew for ghost stats to net 100% pen with just Silla
>turn out both set up have roughly the same stats
>Renee get the ball real quick with IC
>not enough spirit and pass the ball to Silla
>Silla pass it to William
>William active shoot
Time to find Prey sentences
at the moment she is meh
her most useful skills are those debuff on action, but Serestia herself is very lackluster in stats.
The block skill are even useless than before since Leader AI now are more aggressive.
I woulnt argue if someone were to say that she is the worst Legendary atm.
grant she doesnt have EE yet, but neither do Choi and Vonchi.
Still an EE or a skill change can change her from useless to OP. I mean look at William
I just started playing this game a week ago, what members should I be looking for for my team? I was thinking Luka, Guinevere, and Bell.
lost to Sasukey, IC luka, kevin+Milky in fucking Plat. Fucking whales and their power of money. I was almost able to get Sammy to pass but that action bar advantage still fucked me over.
>2 5* boxes
>both give Jheet
Active: Heal Shield.
Penetrating Fear II: -25% ATK debuff in position
Physical Training: +20% MAX HP and +10% DR
Anti-Crisis: -30% Crit Rate and -40% Crit damage to opponent when they shoot.
I dunno about his GK capabilities in pvp but assuming that Anti-Crisis works regardless of whether you're in the GK slot or not, he's possibly a top-tier totem now. Just move him in front of the enemy striker each game and laugh.
>not collecting cuties
Fucking nerua suicides on a two man mid costing me the game. She suicides way too often. They really did screw up defender ai and leader ai. Fuck they should have been more passive not all suicidal
And since he's debuffing attack instead of giving damage reduction, there's no counter to it. The only saving grace is that most people probably didn't keep more than one copy of Robin.
They can always implement multiple AI settings, rather than full blown customization, just add more than 1 configuration.
"Defensive", "offensive", and "balanced" or something similar for each unit type. That way player have a choice to see which AI setting fits their team best.
NiceBoat wishes you all a Happy New Year.
Been a fun year.
Hope you have a better year next year anon!
Just keep working at it one step at a time!
Huh. Maybe I should have taken that last screenshot of Serestia.
I was getting 7-8 points per win when I was near the 20-30th position in the ranking. Point gain have been slowed to a crawl since I got near the top. People around me seems to gain point at the same pace too, so I think it is intentional.
I have a lvl 60 EE'd Zibroi. No superbs. I already have Robin, and Lucian just popped up in scout.
Should I recall Zibroi and get Lucian? Or just use Robin and EE him.
Using a WW/Dark team with Baltheon and Serestia. Beatrice striker.
as long as you don't get above a guaranteed 100% critical hit, +10% crit rate is a +15% damage increase before stones, which is likely far more than the amount given by +6% penetration.
Don't be like me, kids.
Thought I'd decide between Santa Fontus or ST packs after I got back from New Year celebrations. Get home just after 2am, and all 1200 event points wasted due to event ending.
God fucking damn it.
Someone wanna donate a Choi/Vonchi account
I'm getting tired of this after 33 rerolls
RiP Queen Death, 810 crystals to get this...
Vanhiteis she worth investing into?
Kevin is still going to be good, right? I mean, 30% to 20% is not insignificant, but it isnt really enough to make a really strong character into a really bad one, and he still has a two other pretty good totems.
Jewnose on the other hand seems pretty much bad now. Dark bullying at its finest once again.
Here we go again, darkfags and their victim complex
>hurr kevin nerf isn't a nerf at all, but jeunese is just absolute shit now even though he was nerfed the same way kevin was
Just fucking kill yourselves already.
His active is still good and his crit chance passive is more relevant than ever for utility strikers after these gk buffs.
Just because a unit isn't used on every team doesn't mean it's shit.
Jeunese's passive which reduces enemy DR is useful in manual play, mainly CoT.
People underestimate a lot of dark units which have debuff skillsets simply because they're not seen in PvP a lot, meanwhile, a lot of them are invaluable for clearing CoT floors. But hey, not like you know about doing that because you probably just try your standard cookie cutter PvP team on them and then complain about CoT being too tedious.
Stop being retarded.
The nerf barely matters since PvP games rarely last long enough for him to be able to use 2 in the first place thanks to all the action bar fuckery. On Ravian teams it's surely a nerf but that's it.
Makes absolutely 0 difference outside of home games, if they're using him just have your striker swap sides, who cares?
No the point of him is instead of being a totem he has rebuff to lower the crit of the person who are attacking him
So he can be use as totem who will be shot together with GK.
So you have to move him in front of Striker to be effective
I'm just a regular player like the rest of you who posted here once or twice and now people are namedropping me after my attempts of posting funny screenshots to lighten up the threads.
Well this is disappointing ;_;
New year new flatty. Will bigballs ever release another perflat character in 2016?
>isillia is a male meme
Step it up senpai make an original meme like
Should I scout this guy? Not sure if he's worth my GP
Yeah actually. At least one person posts their legend find every week. This guy found Lev, some other anon found William last week on a reroll account unfortunately for him, a6012 skipped Metatron, don't remember about Beth, but an anon found Bell before her, etc.
Just you fuckers wait. The day of Celus is coming.
W-why did it have to evolve? ;_;
I have mixed feelings about this.
My main passer is nera though. Should I switch to my luka or something?
They're both mspu.
I want to make use of it for PvE, but I'm not sure if Luka would be better than Nera with it.
I could just use it on Lynia for PVP as well.
Fug. I do have Evylin, though.
>a6012 skipped Metatron
That is because he already drew metatron a week earlier and she was probably already hypermaxed at that point anyway.
a6012 is kind of a special case. He spends millions of gold per day and is currently #2 ranked PvP player in the world.
Here is a sample of his activity over the past 10 days for those who are curious:
>drew 6* Serestia
>drew 6* metatron
>bought 6* william in dimension shop
>bought ancient stormer through dimension shop
>leveled it to +15 exactly 6 minutes later
>combined for a glab
>took over half an hour to level the glab to +15
>combined for battalion
>combined for encompassing soul
>evo'd a BE
>leveled them up to +15 the next morning
You can't really compare that kind of activity to a normal player.
>need ardor reflex stones
>need ardor pass stones
>now even need ardor crit stones
That's it. I'm combining my shitty spare 6* into ardor rares now. Too much stuff I need. 128k isn't that big to pay for a usable stone anyway.
It may not be every week, but anons definitely scout legends every couple of weeks or so.
The Bell thing was more of a meme though, people kept reposting the same pictures and saying it was theirs. A few people did get her though.
Definitely on the chopping block but they have a nerf backlog at the moment:
>Finish nerfing ATB fuckery. They were only testing the waters with Quick start
>Luka & silla totems are hopefully right after that
>maybe some more random shit just to stall for time so the player base who rely on flavor of the month builds don't riot
>then finally sharr
Yes they did. There was also that anon who found Jin, but didn't have enough gp to get him. I'm not gonna search the archives for you. I'm here 24/7 as well and when I'm not I read everything I missed.
>Fucked over the mechanic that made her good
You forgot your :^)
The AI change also hurt Ravian.
Ravian would gravity the backline and any leaders or assists would be wounded and go passive-mode. On some teams they would be pretty much out for the entire fight. Ravian players would exploit this weakness in the AI. This was one of her biggest strengths in PvP.
To further fuck her over, they took away the free ride to colo 50. many PvE Gks were changed to heal when attacked, so no matter what dirty gravity tricks were used they would be undone when they actually took the shot on net.
>no S2 WW legend
>no S2 thunder legend
>literately Sasuki ball
>Mfw it's just me, the op, the 2 shills, and several meme posters
I want off on Bigballs wild ride.
Big balls just want to ride the One Punch Man band wagon.
Colo changes and AI hurt, yeah, but it's still nowhere as major as %damage nerf. People cleared 42+ floors with Ravian in colo, and in pvp she'd still be at least decent even with new AI.
The %damage nerf was pretty much just to nerf Ravian without recall if you think about it.
stop being a fucking buttblasted nerd just because your free-win player got nerfed without recall. you already got the benefits of using an overpowered cancerous shit for over half a year to let you climb higher than you should have been able to and now you want a free pass to hop on the next bandwagon?
Any team running Ravian that got out of plat had several legendaries and unique stones and all. Or did you really believe local meme "put Ravian into any team and make into champs easily"?
Maybe people reach champs and then change to random shit PvP teams and let themselves be farmed then?
I cannot explain how some of these teams reached as high as they did with the team composition they have. They maybe have 12k TA ranking but they drop like a sack of shit.
Most teams I've ran into at 2200-2300 are OHKO teams with William or Sharr. Their backlines are also easily OHKOable.
My shit sub 12k TA team is the same but I just don't use Sharr or Will.
There are a lot of strategies not reachable if you want to use pure waifu team, much less random assortment of players, which are so effective it can neglect TA in most circumstances. or yes they can just climb then switch to waifu team for the keks.
I do not see a reason to play soccer spirits if I do not play Noa. So no.
Arena always shows their current league, yeah. No idea then, maybe they really do switch to some other team for reasons. Or just keep spamming league hoping to get lucky, win, get enough points to be promoted into higher league.
Significant diminishing returns on % damage abilities and each time any player on your team used a % damage skill it contributes to the counter. So if you used Jeunese active first and then ravian shoots, her first GD shot is already lowered to like 16 or 14%. Then her next shot would be like 8% or something like that.
The change made it so that stacking players who have % damage skills essentially renders GD useless after like 4 diminishing return stacks from any source.
>Skill effects that deal damage to HP will now have diminishing results according to the number of times that the target has received damage of the same kind.
Ravian's gravity goes 20->14->8->5->3 by itself. Gets even worse if some other player with %damage also hit the target as >127140951 says.
At least in final fantasy or puzzle and dragon the % damage "gravity" mechanic worked as intended.
25% gravity on a 4k hp opponent did 1000 damage.
The second gravity did 25% of the remaining hp so it would only be 750 damage or whatever else he was at, and the more hurt the opponent the less effective it became.
In SS gravity always dd full damage based on max hp. it never had diminishing returns.
So, arena is still the most consistent option to farm GP, right?
Might try farming 5-1 trial as well. I don't want to Jenny farm because 2ST a match is hellish.
>When will /ssg/ decide on the best cat?
I was going to run a bestcat 2015 poll across all of /vg/ but I got busy. there were over 25 different generals that had catgirls.
Bastet from /padg/ or Alatana form from /fgog/ would have probably won it anyway.
>/xivg/ would have rigged that poll in favor of their Miqo'te
Most fap to their own avatar in /xivg/. The only named NPC that is memorable is Y'shtola.
I don't think they would rally for her.
The idolmaster crowd coudl also rally behind their cat. That would be more dangerous I think.