Happy new year edition
>I want to platoon with someone
join the /vg/ channel
>I want to join a /vg/ clan for increased memeing
NOFUN (EU): http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/500011239/
BENIS (NA): http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000022908/
>is [tank] good?
reminder if you are under 2k wn8 you are literally subhuman
small clans and hotheads please stand aside
big guys coming through
dont have sirsalt, le fat dutchman or briskembryo pics on phone
Why don't wargaming sell xvm stat blockers?
imagine how much money they'd be making
Coming from /wowsg/ to check in.
Is NA /vg/ still alive?
Is NTR still ded?
Any chance for NTR to come back to life? Where did everybody go?
What happened to AW? Don't see a general for it, so do you guys share the thread with AW, or is it just dead?
>Is NA /vg/ still alive?
>Is NTR still ded?
still more alive than plsgo
>Any chance for NTR to come back to life?
>Where did everybody go?
>What happened to AW? Don't see a general for it, so do you guys share the thread with AW, or is it just dead?
Welcome to World of Tank Games General
Perks of being in [BENIS] as of now.
>Daily win angst
>We have fun most of the time
>People are active
>Time of their lives
Getting drunk and counting down from 10 is nothing special, you can do that every midnight if you want to.
If you get more enjoyment from playing tonks and drinking then good for you desu senpai.
>not necessarily OP
It is the weakest class in the game, both in terms of average player performance and what unicums can do with it. If they ever manage to rebalance it and make it properly skill based the amount of butthurt will be insane, which is probably why they're dragging their feet on the changes.
I wonder what cunt changed the gud old emblem
I was looking up NTR and I was wondering what happened to Zazie and these two clans in the description?
and don't get me started on plsgo's description
KV-13 is more of a low-tier bully tank, if you ask me, but it's okay.
If you want fun Tier 7 mediums then your best bets are T20 for mobility and alpha and T-34-1 if you like high alpha.
If you prefer overpowered gun depression the British comet is lovely, many consider it to be the best Tier 7 medium (Although the T20 will always remain the best to me).
It's a great tank, it really is.
However I've never actually been in a game within my own tier and maybe one above and one below.
Every time I use the T20 I get into matches where there's only a couple Tier 7's and everyone else is an 8 or a 9.
Really puts me off playing it because I know it's great, but it can't compete at that level.
The KV-13 is decent and leads to the T-43 towards the T-62/Object 140 for the meds and leads to the IS line for the heavies.
Give it a try and if you dont like it then, you can allways use it as a good start point towards the med/heavy lines.
I actually made the T20 work in Tier 8s, really good tank and it's funny when tier 8 mediums underestimate you, but yes, tier 9 is incredibly difficult for the thing. Then again, is there a tier 7 medium that has it easy in tier 9 matches? I have encountered tier 7 matches in my T20 though, and god fucking damn does it murder everything in it's way.
>mfw getting tier 7 match in my T20
Once you get top gun, it's a blast. Shreds other mediums of its tier, can bounce shots others wouldn't, it's basically a mini IS-2. Against Teir 6 tanks, it's a monster. Against higher teirs though, don't expect to be doing too much - armor is kind of pathetic against even T7 heavies.
Read my post again. Never said it's bad.
Oh I know, I just want a game where I can compete and see it's true power.
Bouncing everything off of 8 and 9 heavies and dying a slow death every match isn't fun.
It seems to be the only tank in my arsenal that always gets the shit end of the stick.
Being better doesn't make bad tanks less bad, it just makes you better in them. That being said the number of tanks I'd call outright bad is pretty short. There are a lot that are obviously worse than other tanks though.
A-44, Sturer Emil, Challenger, Type 5 heavy (arguably the Type 4 as well), FV 4005.
There are also tons of shit tanks below t5 but no one really cares too much.
Slow, no camo, a low enough ammo capacity to be an actual problem, decent AP pen but no HEAT/APCR when you want it, enemies can shoot you for several seconds before you can shoot them when you crest hills, tiny gun arc.
The alpha on the gun is nice but you give up so much for it, I'd rather play my SU-152 with HEAT instead. The only thing I lose is gun depression, which the Emil isn't great at using anyway.
That's as issue with the MM and HP scaling at those tiers, not many of actual tanks. I mean the S35 premium is OP in-tier, but throw it against KVs and OI Exps and it suddenly doesn't look so great.
>Why would a good player want the option of a higher pen shell?
Did you think at all before you posted?
No it doesn't, the camo is a huge problem. In every other t7 TD I can load a high pen APCR/HEAT shell when I want it for a t9 heavy. I can't do that in the Sturer Emil.
Also I forgot to mention the horrible armour that makes autocannons and HE an actual threat.
>good WN8 in a tank means the tank is good
I've got 2750 in it and I played it back when I was light blue overall, which was about the same as the rest of my recent stats. A good player doing well, or even better than their average, in the tank they've played most recently isn't surprising or notable.
The tank is incapable of carrying games, and falls apart whenever it has to do anything proactive.
>Making shit up.
One of the things wrong with the tank is the lack of a higher pen shell. 231 pen is good for AP but falls short of what you want to deal with an E-75, 4502B frontally, even unangled. Every other tech tree t7 TD, except the Challenger, which is worse, and the 100m1, which is fast and has good camo, can load a shell that will deal with an unangled E-75 reliably.
The low speed, low armour, non-existent camo, and lack of gun arc are bigger problems, especially combined. You're focusing on pen because it's easier to pretend like it's not a problem.
>60% solo without trying particularly hard
>can't carry meme
it doesn't mean the tank is amazing but it sure as fuck means it's not "shit", but keep grasping at straws and moving goalposts
yes solid. Just because shitter like you cannot play tanks that cannot go "fite me 1v1 irl" doesn't make them non-"solid"
gr8 crew skillz m8... i've been playing senpai tanks wrong whole time
on fking heavy tank.. of size of three-storey building... And loader "useless" skill? Get ready for perma ammo racks in Type 4.
This is why WoT is in such shit
Carrying is different from just winning though? I have a 66% WR in mine, mostly solo but not completely, and that doesn't make it not shit. I have some of my highest stats for the for t9 mediums in the Type 61 and that's probably the second worst one.
Trying to deal with, say, three enemy tanks when you're the only tank left is much harder in a huge, unarmoured, slow, shitbox with no camo, and below average accuracy and gun handling than it is in any of its peers.
In a higher camo or faster tank you can sit in a bush and run way after dealing with one.
Also the thing is utterly worthless on any city map. The Sturer Emil is the worst possible platform for a decent gun, and the good points of the gun don't make up for the bad points of the platform. Not as bad as the challenger though, which isn't much better but has extremely low alpha.
if you can win 60+% than the tank is obviously not shit, I don't know how that can be hard to comprehend for anyone, unless you're talking about 20 battles.
and my best game in the Emil was on Ensk, the alpha makes it better at city maps than most other tier 7 TDs
Tought of that 1st loader and (i think) adrenaline rush.
Enjoy camo on the biggest tank in game (or one of the biggest) because full camo on tank with almost 0% camo will make it better...
1st perk adrenaline rush
2nd at 80% repairs OR
>reset whole crew for BiA + Repairs
snapshot + soft ride = useless as you are terribly slow and you are not snapshotting at more than 150meters
Clutch braking doesn't help as long as 5% from that terrible traverse is unnoticeable
View range on fking huge HT is... pointless at the best.. and 6th sense? you are perma-spotted anyway
Over 140 games every individual battle is worth 0.71% of your total. I wouldn't read too much into your exact win percentage.
Also you're doing it wrong. A 60% player getting 60% in a tank means the tank is probably average, but a 64-65% player getting 60% in a tank (let's assume over enough battles to get the standard deviation down) means the tank is utter trash. Likewise a 55% player getting 60% would mean the tank is laughably OP.
Yeah there's the implicit assumption that you aren't deliberately padding.
The Sturer Emil only has two good points, and those are alpha and gun depression. Gun depression is one of the best things to have, but it's not great at making use of it and it is situational. In exchange the Emil gives up everything else, and it comes out very far behind in the trade.
WOOOoooOOOW YOU FUKHHIN RETAHRDS HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT FLANK WAS BROHHKEN
I've played mediums for too long and just want the biggest fattest shit available to fuck around in, preferably with a strong gun as well. But not something that feels broken like Jap heavies. I've heard British tanks fall off in later tiers, should I just go for the Russian heavies everyone and their mother has played?
Happy new year, NOFUN.
T20 if you like well rounded vehicles
T-34-1 if you want a bigger gun and socialist troll turrets (and don't mind randomly exploding or bursting into flame)
Comet if you like high rof and good gun handling.
Niche but workable tanks:
KV-13 is good for bullying lower tiers but struggles against t8 heavies and anything in t9 due to low pen.
Panther is good at long range DPM but you have to play like a total bitch due to bad camo, big profile and weak armor
VK 30.02D is another good bully tank but you have to choose between low pen with the 88 or low alpha with the 75
Czech T-34 is similar to the Chinese, but you trade higher gold pen for lower rof, higher top speed for worse handling
A-44 has a good gun but the platform is miserable to drive
Chi-Ri has the same issue, I like the gun but it's attached to a sluggish tank that gets penned by arty
T-43 pretty much a slightly faster but overall way shittier KV-13 that catches on fire from frontal pens like a chink tank
>shit that was never used for anything important, fat pershings, an actual tank and then another "prototype"
I'm being autistic but I have a hard time grinding lines with too much non historical shit in them. Which is exactly why I like US arty, nearly everything in there saw combat.
You are the only person I've ever seen who has a good opinion of the Emil. All the other advice I'd ever seen, especially when the line was new, was that if you were going to skip one tank in the line to skip the Emil.
because people play 5 games with the stock gun, see the xp req for the top gun, and form their opinion on the tank based on just that
I actually played a fair amount of games with it, with the top gun, equipment and a camo crew, and frankly I thought it was excellent
No, because it's garbage. I thought it was going to be great because I love the Dicker Max, but the Sturer Emil shares nothing with the Dicker Max except the good depression.
Even quickybaby, who is a milquetoast who refuses to ever call a tank bad and will bend over backwards so he can shill every shitty premium because it "might work for you," had nothing good to say about the Emil. I think he even skipped through it.
I'm not exaggerating when I say you're the only person I've ever seen have a good opinion of it, and I mostly talk to other unicorns and tryhards. You did well, congratulations, you could probably do a lot better in a better TD.
is this cipher?
I think u forgot one of the most important vg clans for eu
How are you doing? How's your new year friend?
playing fallout 4 while appearing offline?
T20 pretty much has everything the T-34-1 has but with more hp, gun depression, better Power/weight ratio except less armour (then again, armour isn't really a viable thing for tier 7 mediums)
>connect to WoT
>kinda want to kill myself for being here playing instead of celebrating outside
>54k players connected
I feel somewhat better
But I already got mine... For Free :^)
>having retarded armor allowing you to sidescrape all day
A-44 is unbearably shit and its armour is only rarely able to stop undergunned t5 mediums.
Also any penetrating shot will hit all of your modules and crew members at the same time, and your modules have like half the health they should.
>T55A turns blue from three shots to allies
>T50 tries to push me to enemy fire
>like I give fuck
>spends whole game trying to "punish" me
>still manage to do 5,5k
>could do more if he didn't finish me
I wonder how it must be to have full server of these subhumans
>stupid blogposter hides his name on the scoreboard
>still shows up on the exact same scoreboard
I'll be fair, he was my trusted Lieutenant. Nathaniel was a chill guy and he did do quite a bit for PLSGO. I put him in the position he's in, but he definitely deserves to be there.
GuP was more realistic than Fury
all the time in the worldto prove me wrong
protip: you can't
>still traumatized from all the Fury threads on /k/ for months after the movie came out
oh boy :DDDD
I killed the last one with 2 secs to spare
I think your team should just automatically lose if you only have artillery left. having to go through that shit where they all hide behind a corner and instakill anyone who comes close is suffering.
it was actually pretty fun to hunt them down with ISU invisicamo though
Playing really decent then this happens for 3 matches in a row....
Except that any tank with a gun >=105mm can't autopen a Maus frontally just by shooting at the upper third of the tracks. Both the VK 45.02s have this same annoying as shit weakpoint and as a bonus there's ammo racks behind the auto pen area.
Is it just me or is the Jpanther absurdly broken?
>57% WR and I'm not really very good. Getting 3rd class mastery and fire for effect just about every match.
>Hulldown and bounce errything
>wanting the 62 when the 140 is better in every way
terrible autoloader players will do retarded shit like backing away with their turret facing backwards when reloading, good autoloaders will just turn around and fuck off asap
the only real way to tell is to count shots
Why the fuck do I never get to be the asshole in the bush?
Pubbie mcfucko parks in the bush and racks up kills.
I park in the same bush, and the entire enemy team focuses me down immediately.
no camo skills
no camo net
no binos or optics
you're too dumb to realize that you can't be spotted if you back away from the bush until you can only see the leaves instead of sitting right behind it and shooting at tanks 100 metres away
>in city, doing all of the advanced angling tactics with my noarmor med
>trying to get hits on people
>TOG II* comes around the fucking corner
>realize there is literally NOTHING I can do, I can't retreat and he's going to outDPS me with his massive HP pool
Fucking meme tank.
the a-44 is not a garbage tank. that huge frontal armor lets you do an awful lot of stuff that most other tanks can't.
i hated it when i tried being a sniper, but just running head first into anything that's not a heavy or very fast light works well.
Just had a dank as fuck match I need to make a webm out of. Saw a T-71 flanking my team, went full fucking throttle around the corner in my SU-122-44
Blasted him in the face for 400, rammed him for quite a bit (and took no ramming damage because >T-71), he bounced like 4 shots off my frontal before I hit him again down to 8hp and tapped him to finish him off.
It was a genuine "Fuck out of here nigger" moment, it was so beautiful. Also flanked the Czech T7 and he literally just fucked off. Just drove away. I ignored him and went for a T26E4 expecting him to shoot me in the ass but he didn't, just fucking kept going in the opposite direction until my team brazzered him.
It was a good tank a long time ago, now it's completely mediocre
ground resistances were nerfed to shit when it got the HD remodel and now it's as sluggish as a heavy tank, and its 100mm armor was finally outclassed when the 54mod1 was introduced
gun is pretty shit with long aim time, bad accuracy, and low pen, plus the reload time is on the low side for tier eight meds
literally the only good thing about the type is the -7 gun depression and the pref matchmaking
>yuropoors think they can reply to their masters without a letter of permission from the president
>amerifats think they can talk when EU ded hours have more players than NA primetime
Only the IS-3A seems good but even so £36.84 it is expesnive and does not get pref MM.
Kanon is like a worse E-25 but yet will see T10 games and its pen is the same as the FCM 50t gun but fires even slower.
>7k dmg is only class II
What went wrong? Besides not spotting my own dmg. Did the M48 get magically popular while I was away?
>Besides not spotting my own dmg.
You know that cuts your exp for that damage in half, right? You didn't even get 1200 base exp that game, and ace tankers often sit around 1300 or so, more for good tanks.
If you're not spotting your own damage you get half the exp and the spotters share the other half (two spotters will each get a quarter, three get a sixth, etc).
This is also why exp for spotting damage can vary wildly.
I feel like the T-10 is now the E5 of tier 9.
>as mobile as most mediums
>barely less armored than an e75 if you manage to hide your lower plate
>retardedly good gun
Ah, i see . I thought the depression was worse on the chinese heavies, my bad.
Although I agree with you, I don't see it as a problem. The most powerful tanks in the game are the most flexible ; look at the E5 or Batchat for example .
Fair enough, I just think the statement 'as mobile as most t9 meds is a bit of a stretch'.
I dont think there are any bad t9 heavies though. Maybe the type 4, I havent seen much of them though.
Memes aside it is ok.
>Slow, huge and tall
>No spaced armor other than the tracks + skirts
>Being as tall as it is makes it difficult if something is hugging your side
>Gun that packs a punch but takes forever to reload
>Armor doesnt really matter that much because >gold
the fact is that people still inexplicably fire a lot of standard rounds at heavily armored targets just because they feel better about themselves when they finally hit a weakspot
>shielding very low health friendly Tiger I from enemy fire for a couple seconds
>shoots me in the ass
>3 hours of non stop shit games
>one good game with SU-122-44 at the end of the session
>45 second clip
>170 pen in tier 9
i stopped helping anyone like 5 months ago
i was covering an obj416 who had like 70 cap points, we were down several tanks
and this niggers shoots me and starts asking for reports in chat because i block him (i.e. i was going back and forth so enemies couldnt shoot him)
i died and this retard drove out of cover and died losing the game
he was 1700 ish wn8
never again will i help another person in wot unless platooning
Earn 10,000 XP over any amount of battles.
All modes except Rampage
Must be in a light tank or SPG of tier IV or higher
Once per account
>100% Commander for the M46 Patton KR Ripper
What the fuck
WZ-120's stock gun is basically the T-34-1's top gun with like 5 or 10 more pen if I remember right.
The T-34-2 also has the worst stock grind in t8, you're actually using the Type 58's gun until you've spent 35k xp on turret/tracks just to mount the same fucking gun you had on the T-34-1.
This guy is your only top tier heavy. What are you going to do?
if you don't load full gold you're intentionally gimping your team
It is, but it's a little late to the party to be bitching about it at this point. It's obviously never going to be balanced or reverted to gold only, so you deal with it or you fuck yourself over by being the one staring uselessly at the IS-3 in your tier 6 medium.
We need active people who have at least a T37/Cromwell and an IS-3 to play strongholds and team battles (tons of credits and even gold to be made from these) with us.
Every time a new player joins NOFUN, an inactive jew gets gassed. Do your part, apply now: http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/500011239/
That's a bald-faced lie.
Although I think Zazie let him in anyways so just another way I got shafted.
>me with 8hp left and half health kv4 vs 2/3 health centurion 7/1
>die to 7/1
>7/1 vs kv4 final showdown
>kv4 shows 7/1 his ass and rotates turret
what he >>127142673 said
get a church 3 and use it as a crew trainer for your is7 line
it makes good credits and will level up your soviet heavy crew really fast
once your know the basics you can think about getting a t8 prem
People willingly bought the M4 Revalorise when the FCM and CDC are still available.
Why should Wargaming listen to the smart suggestions when there is a majority of idiots willing to buy every premium that ever comes up for sale?
Quickly senpai, combine to BENIS and prepare for battle
You could combine the remaining active players from PLSGO, NTR, BENIS, and PZMOE into one clan and you still wouldn't have enough players to realistically compete. That's assuming anyone would even consider it after the last failure.
I'm not new, I have several T8's and most of my tanks are T7
I was just looking for something to blow some shekels on and was wondering about the T8 german tank destroyer
Most premium tanks are usually the same or worse than their non-premium counterparts
The tier 8 premiums are mostly for farming credits and training crew
Thus you want a tank that is of the same nation and tank type as the ones you play the most
I see it around often enough, I was just wondering.
WoT forums seem to say fucking everything is amazing, so I wanted to ask the /wotg/ elite council for their opinion.
Cool, I'm into the VK 30.02 (D) line, so I'll consider the 8,8 premium TD
everyone in PLSGO interested in CW left for reddit clans
NTR was already dead
BENIS has one green player who's played for a wotlabs clan and the rest of the shitters don't even have tier 10s
PZMOE's all shitters
Jt is a bad choice
The tank itself it's bad, slow as shit, awful traverse speed...
Also if you want a crew trainer, it has to be from the same nation AND type and the panther 88 is not really worth it
I think you're forgetting our wildcard
I think the AMX 12t is actually the best stat padding tank in the game. Not because it's good, but because it's so god damn hard to drive effectively. It has 4 degrees of gun depression and any stray shell is guaranteed to set the fucker on fire, but despite that it has a glorious 810 damage clip that makes it super fucking easy to get above average damage. The average shitter gets like 400 damage in a game with the 12t, so all you have to do to get unicum stats is get off one entire clip before dying every game. And then the occasional game where you get off two clips and some spotting damage will be worth like 5k+ wn8. It's just too easy.
i acually find the 13 75 way less painfull to play, atleast it doesnt take ages to reload its drum and is more mobil
i mean you have to shoot the sides or back of tanks with amor anyway
>rather sit in que all day just to play with BRs
>it takes hundreds of thousands of active players to quickly find matches
1,1m credits later
going fairly well if we don't run into OI niggers on mountain pass
Grinding must be fun with more people, but this general is way too experienced for me.
But does anyone play on
Xbone I have too much invested and accounts aren't transferable
lmao at all these shitters replying
the lowe is seriously a fun tank
not worth the cash anymore but it tears everything to shreds and nothing pens the stupid-looking turret. naturally the way to play the lowe is hiding or angling armor when necessary, but given that your speed keeps you behind spearheads, you always arrive when the enemy is occupied with your teammates, so they're not even focused on you for a while. dont sweat taking shots because you have tons of health. in t10 matches you're rarely targeted because they're up against IS7's and they prioritize targets accordingly. meanwhile, you're penetrating t10 armor and racking up credits/exp like a fucking king in addition to being a general nuisance/distraction
>rebuy 183 for meme purposes
>having fun in the first game already
What premium tank should I buy? I only have the Bromwell. I was thinking either the Churchill, the Black Prince or the Pz IV. Or should I fork out for a 8.8? (I'm almost at tier 7 but I do well with the Stug)
churchill is really good, you dont even get ace at 1,4k exp
black prince is garbage, pz4 hydro got the wrong gun
panther 88 doesnt seem too bad on paper but i have never played it, seems like a slighly worse panther 2
No, it's probably the worst tank of the game tier for tier.
Church III is gud, if you really want to buy a prem you might get this one until you get better at the game, at which point you could buy stuff like the SU-122-44 or something, I wouldn't recommend a t8 for a newbie.
>faster firing 85
You can use the 2nd best gun on the Russian one and get the same DPM while still having the better depression. But nobody does that because you'd be stupid to give up the higher pen.
Matilda BP one of the least fun tanks in the entire game, but it's not completely shit. The gun is fine and it still has pref. It can and will fuck up other tier 5s, if it ever gets to the fight.
Worst low tier premium is the T2 Light, as there's absolutely no justification for it seeing tier 4; other than WG still thinking doing so reduces tier 2 clubbing.
>Crommie takes one minor hit and retreats
>he goes invisible
>I hit him for the other 605 of his HP with a blindshot
>Snap-shotting Cromwells to death from full health in O-I
BENIS looks fun but my current Canuck clan is really nice but also 2srs wat do