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fcrawl beta has been released: https://bpaste.net/raw/fdaa75a90151 See >>126941854 for a guide on getting it running.
IVAN has updated to version 5.4: https://github.com/Attnam/ivan/releases
Christmas *band competition: http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php?showcompo=183

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to play: http://pastebin.com/dyPKMEBv
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm Online and more: http://roguenex.us

ADoM pastas: http://pastebin.com/VaH5UVN8
AliensRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/20ZTFzwZ
Angband pasta: http://pastebin.com/j8SSFvCT
Brogue pasta: http://pastebin.com/nkUaca3N
Cataclysm DDA pasta: http://pastebin.com/UAqhKZfc
Caves of Qud pasta: http://pastebin.com/0ExECmUn
DCSS pasta: http://pastebin.com/6Nz5cuww
DF Adventure Mode pasta: http://pastebin.com/7HB7Tc1y
DoomRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/2vZsvsfD
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
InCaveAd pasta: http://pastebin.com/HeDX5yNK
Incursion pasta: http://pastebin.com/Q87xYnBq
Infra Arcana pasta: http://pastebin.com/jMb7fZfN
IVAN pasta: http://pastebin.com/GnJeGWTT
MaiDenSnow Eve pasta: http://pastebin.com/BJFyCUnS
NetHack pasta: http://pastebin.com/XRp5mBhz
Omega pasta: http://pastebin.com/0vkDNuyX
One Way Heroics pasta: http://pastebin.com/jFh3nrxy
PosChengband: http://pastebin.com/ZLZZz45j
Prospector pasta: http://pastebin.com/DjPrRQu8
Sil pasta: http://pastebin.com/NRyD5jtt
ToME 4 pasta: http://pastebin.com/GVDJksuM
UnReal World pasta: http://pastebin.com/QfgkYkNA

Other roguelikes without a pasta (go make one!):

Forays to Norrendin: http://forays.github.io/
Quest for the Unicorn: http://www.elf-emulation.com/rcs/unicorn5/index.html
Demon: http://demon.ferretdev.org/
The Ground Gives Way: http://www.thegroundgivesway.com/

Old thread: >>126854261
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Daily reminder that Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is the only roguelike worth a damn
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>>127003318
Worth a damned nothing*
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>>127003318
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames...
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>>127003318
>Not Elona+
Opinion discarded
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INB4 AWOO~
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gib head pats
also do best or whatever but more importantly gib head pats
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>>127003765
YAHOO~ GOOD LUCK ON YOUR RUNS /RLG/
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>>127003886
why is this left to right
why do i feel vaguely uncomfortable
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>>127003885
I'd give her pats

If you know what I mean
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>>127003024
an anon made a pasta for dungeons of dredmor: http://pastebin.com/t3eteBsE

, I'm not a player of it so I'm not fit to assess it's strength but the comments in the last thread suggested it's mostly good, with some suggested tweaks. It should perhaps make it into the next OP, possibly with some edits from the suggestions
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>>127004010
>an anon made a pasta for a shit game
Sorry, we have standards. That shit doesn't belong in the OP.
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>>127003885
I absolutely gib head pats to good awoos

>>127004009
NO. NO ANON NO!
Awoos are not for lewds! NO!

>>127004114
anon, it's a roguelike. It's not one that I'm enamored with, but it's still actually one.
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>>127003995
You got the heebie-weebies, anon.
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>>127004010
Oh sorry, totally whiffed my mind when I was making the thread. I'll get it if I make the next thread.
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>>127004165
We apparently decided it is, but it's still just a meme roguelike. It's shit and dumb and I hate everything it represents because it's not only choked full of memes and sofunny wacky eppin references but that is actually what the game revolves around.
It's reddit, the roguelike and I will oppose it's addition to the op with every single fiber of my being even if I have to make the OP myself for the next twenty years. Fuck that game. It's just like those pillows with memes on them. IT IS SICK AND WRONG
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>>127004542
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>>127004542
Anon
It's just a game
Take a potion of chill
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>>127004542
>t's just like those pillows with memes on them.
I'm interested in this
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>>127004542

And I hate anime, but here we are anonymous. Here we are.

RIPed to ghouls. Ghouls were more dangerous than previous packs I faced, should've used dynamite or a molotov. My only regret is not immediately opening fire as soon as I saw them.
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>>127004542
Where do I buy meme pillows?
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>>127003318
DCSS is one of the worst games ever made, not even baiting.
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DCSS noob here, if people still use the word noob.

How are my skills going?
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>>127005063
Kek.
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>>127004713
I guess I got a little carried away. I'm sorry.

>>127004796
You know the poker face /me gusta/rage etc stuff that became popular some years ago on reddit and 9gag and stuff
They printed them on clothes and sold them. I saw some pillows with those in a shop window. I closed my eyes and walked away. I felt so angry and depressed for some reason.

Anyway yes DoD is a roguelike, still. Technically speaking. So it's allowed.
It's still pretty bad in my opinion but I guess it could be some kind of middle ground between actual games and roguelikes for any outsider.
>>127004810
Ghouls will fuck you up man
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>>127005063
The term is "n00bl3rd", and your skills are perfect.
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>>127004958
>>127004796
I've seen emoji pillows at mall kiosks and in stores. There were "as seen on TV" stickers on the boxes for the emoji pillows in stores, so there must be infomercials for them as well.

>>127005063
What armor are you using? Also make sure to train your weapon skill enough to reach mindelay. Always prioritize offense before defense, as well.
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>>127005063
>auto
Bad anon
Manual
Manual skilling
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>>127005261

Plate armour, no shield.
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>>127005063
get some fucking dodging you scrub
seriously what the fuck
also: get more long blades and some fighting skill
that's enough armor skill for the rest of the game basically
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>>127005063
>>127005292
this
The very first thing you should do on a new character is turn off the auto-skiller, because it is not smart about what skills to prioritize when, and it spreads out experience. It's better to focus on one or two things at a time, and swap what those things are occasionally, than to just slooowly level up 8 things at once.

Check in on it every floor or two as you decide what to change in your skilling.
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>>127004796
>>127004958

http://i3.cpcache.com/product/568345104/poker_face_throw_pillow.jpg?height=460&width=460&qv=90

They actually sell. It's weird.
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>>127005579
nigga did you just link an image on an imageboard
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>>127005539
>>127005292


It's on manual.
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>>127005712
this made me laugh
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>>127005712
I'm on my phone and I can't just post the link in the image field like zi do with 4chan x
Sue me
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>>127005190
>Ghouls will fuck you up man

That was lesson #1. Lesson #2 is leave closed tombs lie.

Second floor of the church and I start opening tombs, mummy pops out of one. I inspect the mummy and it says they hang out around floor 16. I start running and the mummy knocks me across the room in one punch, nearly kills me, curses me, and gives me the mummy-itch. Mummy is between me and the exit to, so I desperately light a molotov and huck it at the beast.

On the bright side, technically the mummy didn't kill me.
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>>127006484
ah yes, tombs can be bad
they can have helpful items in them, they can have horribad monsters in them, and mostly they're empty

just wait until you can't resist a GOLDEN tomb

also according to the pasta if you search/inspect whatever it is the tomb a bunch, you can get a message that MIGHT help hint you as to its contents/danger/safety. The pasta might be outdated.
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>>127006773
The pasta's outdated on that.
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Friendly reminder to not update any current saves on webtiles to latest trunk as there is a bug that breaks shops and it can't be fixed once you update.
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Looks like Pikel likes scaly draconian ass.
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Has anyone ever made a To Love Ru meme?
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While people are talking about infra arcana, can anyone tell me how deep the dungeon is?

My first real character died of insanity on d:27 and I want to know how close I was to winning.
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>>127008303
No
Get on it anon
>>127008585
Number of levels is randomized I think
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>>127008585
32 iirc.
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>>127008719
Seriously? That's annoying. Well I guess I'll just keep at it.
Trying to decide if I should go with shock resistance as an early rogue perk. Dieing of insanity was pretty shitty but if I had been smart enough to 360 from every single ghoul I saw I probably would have only had around 75% at that time.
I'm just trying to figure out how close I was to the end of the game.
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>>127003024
>blue demon is lost
Lold
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>>127003024
>filename
Hahaha oh god
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>>127003024
>mummy with wand of heal wounds and 23 scrolls of recharging

living the dream
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Has anyone in here attempted to add things to crawl? Like, say I wanted to add death knights to the game again. How would I go about doing that?
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>>127010260
Find their old stats, then look at the code for how the other classes are implemented. Copy that, but for death knights. Then compile and fix and compile and fix until it works.
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>>127010157
That guy posting in the last thread just cracked me up.
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>>127007298
It's been reverted for now. Such is life for trunk players.
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Aww yiss!
This is probably the earliest I've ever found it, though Doom Quest has often been good to me.
Was just lying on the floor too.
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FFFFFFuck nymphs
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I think I can take out that ice fiend with a classic cannon fodder immolation technique
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>>127012034
There's no way it can fail, do it bitch
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>>127011867
I agree.

Related to the pic, it has always bothered me that unihorns go on the tool section. Their description hints at them being tools but it doesn't say shit about their weapon potential. They should go on the weapons section to make it fair.
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>>127012151
was too easy
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What's better for a newbie ADoM or ToME? I need to get some buddies into roguelikes and it'll be easiest to convince them by gifting them something on Steam that looks pretty as well.
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>>127012205
I never knew how devastating a horn could be before playing a tourist. These things are basically 30 stones mattocks that you need to carry through all the game. Plus tourists can get it up to skilled, come on.
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>>127012332
One Way Heroics.
>ToME
>ADoM
>looks pretty
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>>127012395
Well prettier than ASCII anyway. I'll consider One Way Heroics, I think the encroaching darkness constantly would turn newbies away though.
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>>127012332
You should ditch those assholes if they can't appreciate ascii.
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On Forrays are you suppose to rely on stealth on the first few floors? Because chainmail and plate seems to get you killed a lot quicker than just dagger and stealth.
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>>127012867
I have no problem regularly using bow or staff+leather to handle threats on the first couple floors.
You have access to all equipment from the very start, so you should use what suits the situation.
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>>127012867
>are you suppose to rely on stealth on the first few floors
stealth is the best way to actually clear the game. It's basically either stealthymage or stealthywarrior.
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Why do I still play this bullshit that is DCSS

You die, you live, you die again.
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>>127013342
PERHAPS ONE DAY YOU'LL ASCEND, ALL SHINY AND CHROME!
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>>127013342
Because you're too much of a numpty to try something else.
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>>127013342
>You die, you live, you die again.

That's kind of the point of the genre, Nux.

For example, Dynahack explains it perfectly.
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Need something to play on the train. Any good mobile roguelikes or are they all rubbish?
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>>127013447

I play Dankest Dungeon and weird indie games too but for some reason DCSS is addicting even though I've never gotten past the lair
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>>127013513
The latter. I like Hoplite.
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>>127013513
>mobile roguelikes
I think somebody has ported Nethack, but that's trash, POWDER exists if you like pain and tedium, Hoplite exists I guess
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LADY
FUCKING STOP

IS THIS YOUR IDEA OF A JOKE

>>127014018
Powder is really good.
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>>127014271
yeah I know, but it's also composed of pain and tedium and not being able to do the thing you want to do
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>>126998828
>>127000394
Disallowing player Draconian colors is actually a simple one line change, there's no need to remove the cruft if you just want something functional to apply for your own local patch:

Changing the bit highlighted in this pic will change what draconian colors the game will select from at XL7.

Doing it this way will leave a bunch of unused code hanging around for the player draconian subraces that you disallow from being chosen, but this anon doesn't care about that because he just wanted to play black Dr and he's not maintaining a fork for public consumption, right?
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>always create unusual levels

Maybe this wasn't such a hot idea after all.

>Detected possible malicious code in image file.

Guess I won't be posting that image then.
Anyway there's a fucking Troll King next to me on Stronghold: L1
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>>127015118
>A terrible three-pronged weapon
Lold
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>>127015118
>+12
>Dex+10
>rN+
Jesus christ. Vamp is pretty decent for 3 runes, but that is beyond a 10/10. Even for 15 runes.
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>>127015314
>vamp is pretty decent
>pretty decent
>decent
What have you been smoking?
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>>127015383
Pretty Decent means Great.
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>>127015383
Its great when it works, but it falls off very fast. Don't get me wrong, I really love the brand. But it runs out of targets pretty quickly and you're left with something that'll suck some juice out of demonspawn and giants every now and again.
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Happy new year from Adelaide /rlg/!

Sorry for not roguelikes
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>>127016034
But its in 20 mins anon..
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>>127016148
You mean 8 hours and 20 mins, right?
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>>127016194
Ment for adelaide, anon..
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>>127016314
Shitty banter.
I expected better from shitpostians.
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>>127016398
Im not an aussie lmao, its 15 mins to 3pm here
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>>126936380
Looks cool, I'll give it a go. I need something shorter to take a bit of a rest from the possessor for a couple of days, because the tedium is starting to grind my brain into a halt.
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rng pls
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>>127016921
>Free GSCs
>complaining
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I have doubts on how to proceed.
I have cleared Dungeon up to 15th floor, the Lair and the Orcish mines, plus the first floor of Elven Halls.

Should i attempt the Spider Nest or the Shoals next? I have a ring of Poison Resistance in my lair and various fire wands + Fireball spell (not very skilled in Fire magic though) and i can punch most monster's shit in, is it enough or do i need more precautions?
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>>127017382
Spider should be simple enough. Watch out for ghost moths though, they can potentially push your shit in.
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Well I guess darts are good for something.
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I did this some hours ago but anyway

The quest level was great, there's actually about six incubi that gave me three free levelups and four shopkeepers, one of which has a magic lamp (to wish for scales, I guess) but I eh

I accidentally put in a wand I didn't know about in my bag of holding

and apparently it was cancellation
so now I don't have a bag of holding!

But it's okay because I have the best possible artefact in the game. Still bummed out though. I'm gonna enchant some rings of intelligence/Adorment to +5 so I can consort with those succubi without failing. Also there's some magic traps in the mines I can use to maximize my pre-existing CHA.
Also I have something like
80 K/C rations and a ring of slow digesting, so I don't think food is ever going to be a problem anymore.
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>>127014870
Hey, do you by any chance know why I would get:
ERROR in 'player-act.cc' at line 325: ASSERT failed: eq of 101 out of range EQ_WEAPON (0) .. NUM_EQUIP (19)
When trying to add a ring to crawl? I double checked enums and the relevant item properties, but for some reason whenever I go into % with that ring on, I crash and get this error.
Pic related is the assert in question.
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Well I'm having fun, boiz
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So the weirdest thing happened while playing DCSS webtiles yesterday.
I was on Lair:5, with my DEWi that had even OoD online.
Then I pressed Ctrl+g to go to Lair:7 and alt+tab to change my music.
When I alt+tab back to the game I was dead, killed by a griffon.
I watched the ttyrec and saw my character spamming Magic Darts at the griffon, and the speed of the messages was too high, even at 1/10 playing speed. I have a macro to use Magic Darts.
What is the possibility that it is a bug? A macro bug?
Is my computer possessed?
Morgue btw:
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/nogardnew/morgue-nogardnew-20151231-024755.txt
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>>127018849
Maybe upload a pastebin of the stuff you're trying to change, it's hard to say without seeing what exactly you're doing.

That assert looks like it's just checking if the equipment_type enum for the item in question actually exists between EQ_WEAPON and EQ_RING_AMULET in enum.h, so if you've added everything properly it shouldn't be having problems.

Have you added a new equipment_type enum and placed it after the NUM_EQUIP enum? NUM_EQUIP acts as a range bound there, so if you're adding a new type you would want it to be placed at the bottom of the existing entries but above NUM_EQUIP.

Note that these are slot type enums though, so if you're just adding a new item without adding, for example, a second amulet slot or something, you (probably?) shouldn't be needing to mess with these particular enums.
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kek
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>>127015118
This is probably the best Crawl weapon I've ever seen.
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One day someone will steal my protein too.
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>>127023552
I'll steal your protein, bro.
It's new years so it's just us here.
There's no need to be afraid.
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DIDN'T EVEN BREAK A SWEAT BRO
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>>127025038
THAT'S A PRETTY HUGE "SWORD" YOU'VE GOT YOURSELF THERE BRAH.
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>>127025310
FOR YOU
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>>127025310
ITS NO LONGER A SWORD
WHEN IT'S THIS FAR ALONG IT BECOMES A 'POLEARM' IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
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>>127025441
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>>127025441
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>>127015210
yes always unusual is "fun"...basically every room is some sort of vault. If you don't die, you level up really fast and get lots of items.
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>>127025441

Show us your AC...
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>>127027272
sure thing boss
Note the 0% disenchant resist. I had 30%, got hit by some random disenchant and literally only lost that one resist. AGAIN.
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>>127027653
whoops cropped that wrong
well whatevs, you get it
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Which roguelike has the best:

>Feeling like an omnipotent mage.

>Feeling like a mighty fighter.

>Feeling like a furtive rogue.

>Feeling like an hotshot archer.
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>>127027653
>that play time
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So, I count five different types of durrgins. I already ID'd the gold durrgin that gives light with its scales (only when you wear them though, so it's pretty shit) I hope for disint resistance.

>>127027653
>play time 43817:15
w-what
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>>127027810
Dredmor.
But really *bands, mostly
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>>127027948
u funneh goy
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>>127027895
>>127027914
Oh, I had a power outage mid-game that somehow reset the mobo battery, which fucked up my date and time. Probably related to that.
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>>127027810

Poschengband can do the fighter well. See the Mauler class.>>127027895
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Speaking of play time
>check playtime on possessor
>58 hours
>still not even gone beyond angband 12
This character is gonna drive me nuts, it's like a quest to kill ALL UNIQUES and I don't even care about the serpent.
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>>127027653

Noice AC
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>>127028208
OR, or you've played 4.0.0 for over 5 years grinding this fucking death-sword.
I conclude that you're a time-traveler.
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>>127027810
>mage
Furyband
>rogue
Sil
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>>127028463

I know very little about Furyband. How does it make you feel like an archmage?
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>>127027810
>>Feeling like an omnipotent mage.
Tome 2.3.x
>>Feeling like a mighty fighter.
one of the bands
>>Feeling like a furtive rogue.
Brogue (or Sil)
>>Feeling like an hotshot archer.
Sil
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>>127005063
you seem poplar in here

are you shilling jew
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>>127012332
>>127012669
OWH is probably the easiest roguelike i've ever played, and it's pretty fun to boot.

Kinda short for my tastes but it's good other than that. I have a weakness for games like Elona+ that take forever to beat.
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>>127028983
Anon that game lets you sling fun spells like fist of the north star.
And if you're a runecrafter you can even set the strength of the spell yourself, you can use all your mana for one megablast etc.
Not to mention that after leveling the spells, for example fire turns into hellfire or holy fire, shit like that.
Truth be told though Furyband is also the go-to for insane melee.
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Disint resistance!
Ready for annihilators.
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>>127028983
>>127029614
To illustrate the point, here's my current Dwarf priest of Aule. Aule lets you enchant your shit with piety. I don't think this is even halfway enchanted, I don't have the skill levels for that yet.
Anyway yeah. That priest is waiting 'till I'm done with the PCB possessor. Then time to grind for piety like a madman
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>>127029614
>>127030368
Hurr, didn't mean to quote that.
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>>127030368
that's pretty furious
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you feel it too, don't you?

I'm gonna make them give them back our past.
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>>127031289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFOeJOtq_xc
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>>127029789
>Ready for annihilators.

and disintegrators?

and disenchanters?
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>>127029682
It would be neat if some roguelike had stuff that used raw strength, for example:
>massive blows would explode enemy corpses
>after a certain amount of strength you could knockback enemies with melee at will
>rip off cursed gear with your brute strength
>cleaving attack being exclusive to two-handed weapons. Bonus points if we could cleave and knock them back.
>picking enemies and throw them
>you could run through mobs of monsters, knocking them back sideways
>you could make big leaps that would work like a poorman's controlled blink
>grappling spellcaster would hinder their ability to cast spells greatly
>your blows could destroy walls
>your blows could destroy the floor and escape downstairs
>throwing giant boulders upwards could create an escape hole and then jump to the previous floor.
>grab giant boulders and place them on corridors to block the path
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>>127031538
>rip off cursed gear
Berserkers do that
>picking up and throwing enemies
Titans do that
>blows destroy walls
muh possessor does that
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>>127031450
Actually I said annihilators, but I meant disintegrators because thankfully annihilators don't exist in dyna, they're from slash'em extended.

Also disenchanters fucking suck and I hate their guts because you fucking CAN'T GET THAT RESISTANCE
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>identify dagger I found in D:1
>+2 elec dagger
>MuMo
I mean technically I'm already not following the challenge since I joined Ru but training a weapon would be a bit too much
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>>127031701

Disenchanters are usually the targets of my many wands of cold/strike/magic missile.
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>>127028983
You can make magical unbreakable glass execution chamber, spells to change the terrain and lots of different shit, I like it
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>>127032178
I thing I might just genocide them.
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>>127032241
oh yes, the gas chambers were really fun. Fury is a really fun game, if completely broken.
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Trying to figure out how to do a 15 rune run. Is it easier to throw ruks and use clubs, or do some magic?
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nearly got rekt when the titan summoned minotaurs in a last ditch. espaed with a wand of digging, my tail between my legs and a 5 foot poleaxe across by torso

Being in this depth at level 13 is gonna be fun.
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>>127031538
>massive blows would explode enemy corpses
DDA
>rip off cursed gear with your brute strength
pcb berserkers
>cleaving attack being exclusive to two-handed weapons. Bonus points if we could cleave and knock them back.
DDA, I think. You could mod a weapon that does this, if nothing else.
>picking enemies and throw them
pcb giant race
>you could run through mobs of monsters, knocking them back sideways
This sounds familiar, I want to say either ToME4 or pcb has something that does this
>you could make big leaps that would work like a poorman's controlled blink
DCSS's Ru. Lots of "leap to monster and attack" abilities in other games.
>grappling spellcaster would hinder their ability to cast spells greatly
ToME4 brawler
>your blows could destroy walls
There's hit to shatter in pcb, as well as more literal "use ability to remove adjacent wall" on things like maulers and golems.
>your blows could destroy the floor and escape downstairs
I think pcb diggermasters get an ability that does effectively this
>grab giant boulders and place them on corridors to block the path
Nethack, if you polymorph into a giant

tl;dr: play roguelikes
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>>127031538

Maulers get a Splatter stance in PCB that kills one dude and damages or kills other dudes around him.

Maulers also get a knockout blow as well as a stunning or critical strike.
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>level 13, 11 AC on the pre-castle mazes

FUN
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Anyone know the optimal race for Monk in PCB?
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>>127033289
>11 AC
you mean -11 surely
10 AC is the naked default and that would mean you you're only wearing a single cursed -2 piece of armor.
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>>127033398
Tonberry and Demigod of Poseidon are fun.
Don't know about optimal though.
You really should try Tonberry because that damage is absolutely fucked up.
You'll be 2-shotting Meng Huo at level 10.
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>>127033434
yeah -11

have absolutely no idea how I'm gnonna fight these minos.
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>>127033545
Aren't Tonberries hella slow though?>>127033545
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>>127033664
-11 is actually really good, man. My tourist had -11 AC when he killed his quest leader. Hell, I had -11 AC until now.
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>>127033732
Monk inherent speed cancels it out.
Blows too.
Just try it, it's really fucking fun.
The only bad part is getting confused easily.
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>>127032787
Not to mention that in Fury, if you have the "throw rocks" skill or something like that, and you level it up, you can actually tear down walls to create rocks.
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>>127033398
Yeek.

Then when you find the stone of chaos, spam that shit until you become a half titan.
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mommy

>>127033803
it is, problem is I'm way out of depth. Was supposed to know where medusa was but I tried to kill the titan and summoned nasties on me, I escaped by going downwards.

Most enemies takes a considerable chunk of damage and a mino can feasibly 2hit me
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>>127034027
that's... your screenshot?

that's awful
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>>127034197
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>>127034347
how can you stand it
it's so tiny and monochrome and ugly
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>>127034512
That's what she said.
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>>127019978
There's a command that repeats some action you input for some number of times that you input. It's 0/insert on my numpad and I always accidentally press it. You might've pressed that command on accident. Or maybe it's a ghost
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Since there was a fan-made patch for Dungeons of Dredmor that balanced a lot of shit and fixed bugs, I was thinking of making a mod. It'd increase the difficulty of the game by buffing monsters and giving them more flavor with extra abilities. Maybe even allowing a diagonal movement system and some extra equipment geared towards rogues and wizards?

Would anyone here be interested, or is it a lost cause?
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Finally my dumping hundreds of thousands of gold into the gamble shop pays off with something usable. I don't even know which is the best kind of device to gamble for with all the 4.0 changes
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The AC game ridiculous and I still have to grab a good cloak!
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>>127038535
Remove memes.
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>>127038535
I think I speak for the thread when I say there's no point in polishing that turd, anon.
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>>127038895
That's bretty good.
Staff of manastorms and wand of rockets are still probably the best.
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>>127031450
what am i looking at here
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>>127031450
oh hey that's pretty cute

happy good year to you too, anon
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>>127039192
/rlg takes on a cute sentient turd and loses.
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>>127039192
I *think* it's supposed to be a cute rust monster ruining a character's gear
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>>127032787

I would rather have most of this in one neat package. I won't get satisfied by playing a little bit here and a little bit there to play what I want.
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>>126991885
They made a super pokemon mystery dungeon? I still haven't beat red rescue team, been playing too much DCSS to put in the time. My fiancee loves it tho

Fuck I need a 3DS
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>>127039070
I could make enemies say the things ones in DC:SS do.
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>>127039503
ToME4 has 4 or 5 of the things you listed ingame.
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What genre can I transition easily from roguelikes? I'm kinda burnt out on the genre for now and normal RPG don't get my attention, besides that my toaster can't run the newest releases.
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>>127040106
Hentai games.
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>>127040106
Diablo clones are an offshoot of early roguelikes, so you could try Diablo 3 or Torchlight or Path of Exile or whatever's current in that genre.

Alternately, learn to love the Souls games and get hype for April.
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>>127040281
Forgot image.
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>>127040106
roguelites
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>>127040106
uh, maybe a bit of a jump, but there are some good free multiplayer boardgames available online at, for example, boardgamearena.com

I personally really like Race for the Galaxy and Seasons there.
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>>127039743
Do it, mang. I guarantee someone will play it with the promise of diagonal movement alone.
And remove memes.
Basically rewrite the entire game. Go.
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>>127018637
>I accidentally put in a wand I didn't know about in my bag of holding
>
>and apparently it was cancellation
>so now I don't have a bag of holding!
Goddamnit man
How many people have blown up their bags this week
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>>127040325
>ARPGs
Anything that isn't Diablo 1 isn't even anywhere close to roguelikes though.
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>>127038535
You'd be better off bringing skills over to DC:SS

There would probably be a lot more interest too
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>>127034512
ugly?
wut?

the only problem is when I'm tired that it gets hard to distinguish shapes of the same colour.
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>>127041169
anon....

ANONNNNNNNNNNNNN GOD DAMNIT THIS IS NETHACK

you're supposed to play around these things

ADJFAKEJGKEJ anon why
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>>127041169
It's like nobody knows how to engrave-ID.
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>>127041360
Do you really think so? It'd be nice to see them get in, but they like to make spellcasting so linear in that game for some reason.
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>>127041668
Yeah I was gonna mention that
If "The engraving on the floor vanishes!" you call that shit vanish1 or something and you keep that out of bags until you're really sure

On a semirelated note, does anyone have "The engraving on the floor vanishes!.jpg"?
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>>127031450
Cute.
>>127039192
Pic related
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>>127042014
>If "The engraving on the floor vanishes!" you call that shit vanish1 or something and you keep that out of bags until you're really sure
You can just zap a monster. Teleport and invisibility are easy to check, and the only other one is cancellation.
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>>127041231
Hence the suggestion, the first anon specifically asked for a different genre.

Reading comprehension friend.
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>>127040106
Doom wads.
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>>127040106

You could try some of the 4X around there. Space Empires IV, Masters of Orion 2, Alpha Centauri, for starters.
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>You wiggle your hips.
>The titanic slime creature hits you.
>You die.
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>>127043620
That's what her message log said.
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>>127042327
I don't understand, does putting a wand into a bag cause that wand to activate on the bag? So if you put in tele it would teleport the bag?
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>>127043620
>>You wiggle your hips.
wat
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>>127043950
Can you also teleport your dick away and become the little girl?
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>>127043950
Putting a wand of cancellation (or a few other select items) in a bag of holding causes it to explode, destroying the contents. Probably a D&D thing, I don't know. Otherwise you can put anything in a bag.
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>>127044252
I don't think that's enough to make you a little girl
source: oglaf runaway penis story arc

also, captcha 3x3 included a close up image of a joint inscribed with cursive "get high" wtf captcha. and goddamn, stirring my desire when I'm on a long self-imposed break from the stuff
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>>127044252
Don't fuck with translocation spells.
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>>127044859
Fuck you!
I'll get my wand of teleport after I slay that huge squirrel patrolling my backyard and finally become the little girl I've always felt I am.
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swordfam here, should I do rlyeh and olympus? Or grind somewhere for *healing* or what?
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>>127044859
>tfw DDA is the closest we'll ever get to a drug/addiction roguelike
>tfw it's also the closest we'll ever get to a STALKER roguelike
feels like shit man
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>>127045140
isn't there an amulet of genderswapping tho
tele would probably hurt like fuck and you still wouldn't have a vagina
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>>127045245
don't forget that when you're getting close to serpent-time you can also gamble all your cash for potions to find a few more healing
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>>127045457
this nigga knows
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>>127045457
>you still wouldn't have a vagina

Gross.
Little girls don't have anything that vulgar.
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Not sure if I should start learning some spells now. And what spells school.

I guess I'll go shoot fireworks in the cold, alone, instead.
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>>127020063
Here's the diff.
http://pastebin.com/GjeJExV0
I haven't even touched enum.h
If you were to take a look, I would be very glad.
I figure it's happening 'cus I was sloppy about moving amulet properties to a ring somewhere.
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>>127045457

There is in Nethack.
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Am I a bad enough dudette to fight off the Yendorian army?
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Aw man, faulted extremely retardedly to nothing threatening. RIP hitachi-blade.

Time to not play deathsword for a month.
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>>127046728
Do you have reflection? If so, yes.
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>>127046728
I BELIEVE IN YOU


>>127046884
fuuuuck that's like 90% of my characters...playing too long in a sitting and faulting
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Don't feel too bad about missing out on your new year's kiss because valentines is coming up and you won't get one there either so you need to save up on those bad feels
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>>127047206
But I'm getting a new year's kiss anon. I'm getting married
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>>127047206
I'm at my parents for the holidays so it's be pretty fucking weird to kiss my mom.
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Apparently staves don't play nice with allies. Too bad I'm out of corpses to summon a demon.
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>>127045140
>somebody actually saved my silly optimism edit
And a happy new year to you, friend!
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>>127046884
You'll start another one tomorrow, you know it.
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>>127047387
not really
just not on the lips
you really should be giving your mom a good child smooch on the cheek to let her know you are still her baby
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>>127038535
I think this is a very good idea if you want to try it. The main issues with DoD, humor aside, were all related to shitty 4directional movement and tons of inventory spam with 20 items that all do nothing.
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>>127047206
I don't think we're all that hopeless
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>>127047778
not him, but...that's an edit? What's the original like?
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>>127048850
The qt gets progressively sadder.
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>>127049058
aww this makes me disproportionately sad
I like your version better
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>>127048850
;_;
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>>127049405
N O N C A N O N
O
N
C
A
N
O
N
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note for castle:

wish order

charging
cloak of proection
boots of speed
genocide

if I'm lucky and discover genocide and charging before hand then magic markers / ring of free action
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>>127031902
Unarmed Combat is better than that dagger
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Is ADoM worth purchasing on Steam or is it just the free version with a few extra options?
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>>127053105
steam versions are usually just the free version but with tiles
the only exception to this is ToME, which has a huge chunk of content behind a paywall
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>>127052418
It really isn't for the chunk of the game that actually matters.
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Let's hope this gets added.
http://sprunge.us/AOgF
>acid crab

>Sickly yellow and mutated by proximity to slimes and sewers, these crabs are known to spray caustic fog when threatened, attacking, mating, or whenever they please.
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>>127055104
What next? Chaos crabs? Undead crabs? Fucking bloat
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>>127055104
>mating
L-lewd
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>>127055104
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>>127055264
Anon, I will have you know that both of those crabs are already available in your latest edition of DCSS Trunk (c)
The bloat will never end!
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>>127055104
>acid fog

IDS HADDBEDIMNG
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>>127055104
>Let's hope this gets added.
>added
Thats not how dcss works, anon
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>>127058057
You're one unfunny cunt
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>>127058345
i laughed tho
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>>127057074
why was this deleted
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>>127058907
The developers removed it before it was put in for real.
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>>127059071
lmao
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>>127058907
He could have deleted it himself
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Apollo demigods probably have the easiest fight since his entire offense is light-based except for those awful fenghuang summons but he never used it. Though his artifact isn't that amazing so I guess it balances out.
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>>127059248
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>>127058907
Because I deleted it.
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>>127059336
it's a pretty reasonable statstick though, with +5 speed. I wonder how good it is for bards that can actually use the fact that it's a harp.
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>>127020063
>>127046220
I think the issue may be in bool ring_handled in player.cc, but I'm not really sure what to do to fix this.
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i just woke up because I stayed up late trying to fucking play DCSS and now i'm going to play it again because my life is shit
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>>127060017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDYtMt5IJpg
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>>127060017
>now i'm going to play it again because my life is shit
you may be reversing cause and effect there
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>>127060017
stop being a blogging bitch
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Happy new year /rlg/! I wish you all the best!
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>>127059336
are you sure he actually has that spell? I mean, he probably should, but I don't think he does right now.
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>Got fcrawl working
>Now I have to learn hjkl movement
Guess its time to stop being a dirty casual.
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>>127061208
Yurope pls. Some of us are still living in the past.
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>>127061406
Yeah, it's his "do something" ability. He can summon Artemis or fenghuangs. I guess it might be buggy and not work, but he supposed to have it, at least.

Interestingly, several olympians try to summon zeus, which I'm pretty sure always fails because he's the dungeon boss.
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>>127061857
anon it will change your life for the better, it's super nice to play from the home row in roguelikes.

Here's a handy guide for learning it faster.
The y/u and /b/n keys are your up-left, up-right, down-left, and down-right diagonals. Fairly easy to remember because they are positioned above or below the home row appropriately. And obviously the one of the left is your left diagonal, the one on the right is your right diagonal.

The home row ones are your cardinal directions. Then H and L are the leftmost and rightmost of your home row keys, and make you go left and right respectively.

The main pair that takes some practice to remember is the j/k pair for down and up respectively.

So most of them are pretty easy to remember abstractly, and after a little practice (like an hour or two at most) it will feel natural.

>>127062137
you're probably right. I was just looking at monster memory.
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>>127062559
I feel like I'm clumsily moving at the speed of light. Once I get diagonals down, I'll be the fastest alrightplayerâ„¢ there ever was. Thanks for the tips though, that will definitely help me keep them straight in my head.
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>>127010260
LAVA ORCS
A
V
A

O
R
C
S
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>>127062559
>The main pair that takes some practice to remember is the j/k pair for down and up respectively.
lower case k reaches up

lower case j reaches down
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You guys seem like you'd like Darkest Dungeon. Anyone here play it?
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>>127010260
>add things to crawl
I don't understand what you mean

like turning off the food clock or reducing the amount of equip slots?
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>>127063314
sounds pretty dank, never tried it tho
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>>127063173
Lava Orcs are actually really annoying to re-add because they were added into trunk and then changed, and then patched out over many commits.

And then a bunch of stuff to do with races and racial muts was shifted around since they were taken out.

It would probably be easier to rebuild them from scratch now that I think about it. Maybe use a few of the old temperature code.
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>>127063314
Not a roguelike and it seems grindy as fuck. Love the visual design in the game, though.
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>>127063314

I did until the most recent update made it unplayably difficult.
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>>127063314
YOU REMEMBER OUR VENERABLE HOUSE.
OPULENT AND IMPERIAL.
IT IS A FESTERING ABOMINATION!
Its pretty fun. I want that narrator to narrate my life so I can descend into madness properly. Also not roguelike. Try /v/.
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>>127063314
It's not a roguelike. The indie games general covers that.
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happy new year!
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>>127063925
Is this the year we get a roguelike for a VR headset?
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>>127055104
>lemuel_acid_trip gets even worse
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>127055104
>>127064347
Just 1 merge away now!
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/205
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>>127063381
I saw the other anon add cloaks of rCorr and boots of rElec back in and figured it wouldn't be so hard to do that. A lot of it seems like changing a few things here and there. I'm just curious about adding certain backrounds back in because they're still in the jobs file. They're just blank and commented out. I guess I'll figure out if adding them back is as simple as removing the comment and giving them their old stats back. I doubt it though. If all goes well, I'll have a few zealot backrounds back and a few spaces for more stuff like Jesters and some personal stuff I'd want like mummy clarity. I have to learn how to compile crawl via cygwin, but that should be fairly simple now that I've actually slept. I just find stuff like this amusing, I did it a lot with cata too.
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>>127065114
>I did it a lot with cata too
Were you Captain Removalpants who so excitedly spent two threads excising the heresy of rivtech and other cheaty luxury in the harsh flame of notepad++'s cleansing fire?
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>>127064615
How often do pull requests get merged?
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>>127065114
If you want to check it out, adding grounding as a boots ego was incredibly easy:
https://github.com/nikheizen/crawl/commit/2ffe5536d6447636ebfd106e178c8133680ff008
Preservation was a little more annoying because armour egos function differently than amulet egos. Also had to add a new function.
https://github.com/nikheizen/crawl/commit/8fd2ae8d5010ceaff0c16fb6375eff102b98c54e

Be careful around major version tags though. It's often not as easy as just removing them, you have to make sure that the information shouldn't be in a different place since multiple versions have passed since then.

I'm also not great at this, there is another anon here who probably knows how to do this better than I.
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>>127065347
I edited zombies in my own game to be much more dangerous so that I couldn't tab them to death with a knife spear. I also messed with their LoS so that stealth would be more viable but I ended up getting frustrated. Messing around in the .jsons is kind of rough though. The formatting is odd and a lot of the tags are monster specific for some reason. Its much easier to just add or remove items and edit monster stats rather than give them new attacks. I rather like content, as long as it adds to the game.
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>>127065974
How can one man be so based? Thanks a ton! This is so helpful.
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Is there an easier quest than this?
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>>127068295
gnope
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>>127068295

It's easy to beat, King Crimson can beat Killer Queen any day.
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>>127032413
only reason to not use magic would be following trog and needlestab
(which actually is just fine, at least with spriggan)
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happy new years ladm8s, going to try and get my infra aracana win now that I've ascended 3 runes in dcss
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>>127068295
nani what game is this ?
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>>127070614
good luck anon, it's a super fun game

>>127071663
most likely poschengband, though I think that monster is also in furyband, hengband, chengband, and maybe zangband
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>>127071663
There was a jojo roguelike but I don't think this is it.
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First time I got this far.
I know, Im a scrub.

Entered the spider caves because i trusted the wiki, immediately had 6 spiders around me, tried to leave but was trapped by spiders. tried to fear them, got fucked.

What could I have done better/different?

http://pastebin.com/H3eEeVrX
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I wasn't too impressed with cult of personality, but I think getting his cyberdemon summon is the only way I could have killed him, so maybe all you advocates for it had a point.

A lot of the really awful serpent summons are demonic too, so I'm not sure what the plan will be for that.
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>>127072568
master stair-fighting
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>>127073062
I took all 6 spiders/scorpions with me when I changed level.

How do I fight them on the stairs when all of them follow me?
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>>127073195
Go up when only one or two are next to you r funnel them into a corridor.
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>>127072568
you shouldn't be in Spider at XL 13

read the pasta
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Sokoban would be fun if it wasn't paired with a roguelike game.
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>>127072094
7th something, right?
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>>127075702
well...the inspiration it's just from a game called Sokoban, a japanese pure puzzler. Maybe you'd enjoy looking that up.
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>>127075818
I thought everyone knew Sokoban. There's a million games about it.
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>>127075762
7th Stand User is a jrpg.
Diavolo no Daibouken (sp) is the jojo rl.
The game in anon's screenshot is Poschengband.
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>>127075818
Traditional puzzles don't let me kill things.
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Is the moving darkness mechanic of One Way Heroics as annoying as it sounds? I feel like it would just end up annoying me mostly.
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>>127077089
It's the only thing in this game stopping you from becoming literally immortal.
It's not annoying, it's kinda necessary.
The game's easy anyway.
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>>127076450
>Diavolo no Daibouken
too bad it never got a translation
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page 10 bump
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>>127076798
then you like it's roguelike pairing?
>>127077089
i think it's pretty neat
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>>127077194
>It's the only thing in this game stopping you from becoming literally immortal.
What does this even mean? Other roguelikes allow some level of grinding regardless of efficiency/safety, but you'll never become invincible.
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>>127077194
Is Plus worth it or is the base game just fine?
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I just want to win a roguelike

Anything is fine
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A little out of his depth.

Found a wand of disintegration, so I have one non-guaranteed endgame device now! This is going to be slower than healing potions, I know it.
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>>127080431
Not him but yah it's really worth it
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>>127081527
You can win Madness before 2016.
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>>127081584
I found a solution: get hit by two mana storms before your next action and die.

Demon warlocks seem strong enough (though I never had to fight the high end lovecraft or balrog uniques). Might even be a better devicemaster than devicemasters.
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>>127082779
Double move manastorm is my favorite *band feature.
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Anyone played Sword of the Stars: The Pit? Got gifted it over Steam and never heard of it before, but it seems to be a roguelike from what I'm seeing. That I never hear about it in these threads makes me a bit wary though.
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>>127077194
please respond
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So, what IS the best roguelike game that /rlg/ generally agrees upon?
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>>127083346
ZHP
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>>127082779
>fast (+29)
>(+29)
>29
>30-1

YOU HAD ONE JOB
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>>127081527
Just play a pcb meme knight
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>>127068295
It has no weakness.
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>>127083346
dcss, since /rlg/ nearly is a dcss general.
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>>127083346
/rlg/ doesn't universally agree on anything.
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>>127082779
fuuuuck
I lost a super promising level 50 character in vanilla to that once, specifically to the Mouth of Sauron in fact. I think it was a 0.003% chance of happening :)
The odds are different in poscheng of course, and the semi-randomized-speed means you can't fully avoid the possibility of a double move as one can in vanilla.

>>127083528
yeah, rip...though as I just said above in this post, poschengband speed advantage is not a 100% guarantee of doublemove prevention. But still it's an order of magnitude rarer when you force the RNG to jump an extra hurdle.

The dead anon maybe could have dropped some weight or something to get one speed.
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>>127083956
>The dead anon maybe could have dropped some weight or something to get one speed.
Nah. Haste (+10), ring of speed (+12), spear of hagen (+3), crimson (+4).

Maybe I could have shuffled some things around to get more speed, though I'm not sure I had anything higher for the weapon slot. Guess I should have tried to work the +7 speed boots into my gear and found a way to get rNether and 5 chr elsewhere.
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>>127083346
We can't agree on anything and scare away newbies because they ask what they should start with, someone suggests something, then arguments break out whether it's shit or not.
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>>127084421
too true :<
I feel like those types of situations involve 5-7 anons giving good serious answers, and about 3 anons samefagging up a huge shitposting argument
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>>127084421
>>127085436
>newbie comes asking for recommends
>everyone argues and shitposts
>newbie ends up buying and playing Dungeons of Dredmor and that's the only exposure to a roguelike they have

We're terrible people.
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>>127085663
Though to be fair I've always liked reading posts by highly experienced/knowledgeable dredmor players, even though I don't like to play it myself. But that's very different from a newbie first-timer situation.
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>>127083557
Is pcb, the memeband ?
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>>127086047
I didn't realize there were any really experienced Dredmor players. I tried playing it a few times but it just bored the hell out of me, and most of the people I see, even those who really like it, never seem to actually have much time logged into the game.
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>>127086454
eh, sometimes? Really Animeband is the full-on memeband.
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>>127084421
They get told to play IA or brogue or DoomRL or crawl which is fine.
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How's CoQ nowadays?

I haven't played it since it was vaporware
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>>127088234
deader than dead
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HELP
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>>127088917
>youarealreadydead.jpg
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>>127089023
MAINTAIN
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>>127088917
Is that real?

Why does everyone hate Dredmor so much?
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>>127089276
>everyone
Most people here don't care about it
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>>127089276
Was real. Turns out Blood magic and Pyromancey makes Monster Zoo's a playground
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Can an orb of destruction block a malmute beam?
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>>127089618
I think so. Try it out.
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>>127089606
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>>127089803
At least it looks better than ToME 4
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>>127090397
Those fucking eyebrows though. They look like some sort of parasitic caterpillars or something.
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What's the ideal god for a Troll Monk in DCSS?

Okawaru could give me nice equipment, but then again Fedhas is really dank. I want to try Jivya at some point because mutation is my thing in games.
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>>127091681
Jivya is great on trolls because you need little equipment and jellies can't eat ruks. Makhleb is just good for any character.
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>>127091784

Surprisingly, I've never tried Makhleb. Do you think he's better than Fedhas and Okawaru?

I'm taking one of those three until I find the slime pits.
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>>127091681
Xom :^)
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wtf didn't trog used to burn corpses?
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>>127092087
Makhleb is very, very good throughout all of the game. He gives you ranged invocations, demon summonings, and health on every kill that scales with enemy HD (I think). I wouldn't recommend abandoning any god tht early in the game (especially Oka and Makhleb).

>>127092206
They removed corpse sacrifice.
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>>127092087
Mahkleb turns alot of melee dudes ezmode to me. Especially if they have any aptitude for invo
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>>127092307

So should I just wait till I find Jivya and not take any god until then?

I really want to try him.
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Best co-op for 3-4 people?

Do co-op roguelikes even exist? Only problem would be that you'd have to wait for everyone to finish their turn
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>>127092612
Yeah. Troll is powerful enough to do that. When you get to the Lair, sprint to Lair-6 and burn magic mapping if you have it. Repeat through Lair-8 to find the entrance to Slime, which usually has an altar. Jivya altars also are very rarely encountered in the main Dungeon as well as one Temple layout. Enjoy your free Slimy Rune when you hit 4 pips of piety.
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>>127092919

Is Slime Pits always in Lair 6-8 or can it be elsewhere in Lair?
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>>127093037
Yes
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HAPPY new year
to /rlg/
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>>127093691
Congrats /rlg/. You manage to be less dead than both /sg/ and /cgg/ somehow
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Why do people make a big deal about Sigmund? I've never died to that cunt and rarely get hit by him.
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In DCSS, what's a good level to get my Fighting at before working on Dodging?
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>>127095103
Get dodging to 20, then fighting to 16, then have a happy new year!
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>>127089276
>why does everyone hate Dredmor so much?
I think most don't *hate* it but the reasons for not liking it in my mind are:
-annoyingly long animations, agonizing as compared with lightning speed classic ascii roguelikes (which I recently learned can be put into superfast mode)
-horrific mouse-only inventory management. The classic roguelikes using keyboard to instantly access inv items is super nice in comprison. Also while we're here, fuck DDA inventory management with a megahuge scrolling list.
-related to above, lugging around tons of crafting shit
-Strictly better to navigate with the mouse as compared with keyboard to avoid accidentally walking into traps etc. For all that traditional roguelikes can be hard for novices to learn the interface, they are fucking fast and powerful for accustomed users that are quick typists, with play often happening from the home row typing position
-Tons of very forced maymays to be totes funnay for novelty entertainment or marketing purposes. This actually doesn't bug me all *that* much but it does bother some others heavily.

So really it's that, despite having pretty graphics, the UI/UX is actually WORSE for me than the classic roguelikes. It's slower, mouse-bound, and less powerful.

I still as I said earlier very much enjoy seeing content posted by others, but I get really annoyed with the inputs necessary to play it myself.

>>127092881
well there are real-time-ish roguelikes such as TomeNet, which is basically like online diablo ii the roguelike. Also, it's free.
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>>127095195

Righto, happy new year!
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>>127093691
happy new years from the US east coast! (1 hour past, just got back from my celebration)
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>>127094462
he can appear very early sometimes, and he's often the first actually potentially deadly monster that a new player meets. They're still in "fight all the things!" mode because they've yet to meet something that can rape their shit in. And then suddenly, dead. "Oh no but I had found a +2 spear on my character no fair! My best character evur!"
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As a TrMo, how do I deal with Hydra if I don't have ruk? I can't run away from all of them.
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Game idea: A scifi/cyberpunk game that starts out with tiles, but then ASCII starts bleeding in as your mind control chip starts failing. Like the intro to Syndicate Wars.
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>>127096289
Evo, summons if Troglodyte, slimification. Evading them is your best option though.
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>>127089606
>>127089803
huh so they call them zoos, eh?
That's a term borrowed from the *bands. A zoo is a subtype of pit, which is a special (and often perfectly square) room 100% every tile packed with a monster along a certain theme. A zoo is an animal pit, in the *bands.
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>vampiric lajatang on D2
I can't wait to splat!
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>>127096414
Roguelike game developers have never been exposed to any culture other than Lord of the Rings and D&D. 'Cyberpunk' is basically a nonsense word to them.
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>>127096981
when will this meme die
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>>127096038

I was playing my Troll Monk earlier and someone sent me a message: "How did you kill Sigmund??"
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>>127097129
ah I think that's more referring to the fact that you most likely had to melee him, which opens up the chance for horrible RNG chaos effects from his staff
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>>127096414
Hm, I was going to ask what gameplay effects that would have, but thinking better of it you could easily make it so that e.g two monsters share the same letter. color and spawn rates once you start seeing them as ASCII, and force the player to tell them apart by other means, like resistances and differences in their movement patterns. In order for it to have any replayability this would need to be partially procedurally generated, though.
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>>127097225
That's Yiuf, you dongoid. Sigmund usually has a vanilla scythe and an assortment of spells.
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First 15 rune win. That sweet sweeeeet MP pool. SpEn WW@? Also happy new year.
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>>127097225
>>127097309


For Sigmund or Yiuf I generally pop out from a corner and smack his shit before he can hit me.
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The last DCSS characater you played as breaks into your house and rapes you.

How fucked are you?
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>>127097309
uhhh uhhh
i totally have a good reason for this mix up
I'm just not sure where I put it.
prease forgive, bring horriburu shame on fambry
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>>127097412
Nice job, mang.
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>>127097573
>MuMo
I'll be alright
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>>127097573
I think we'd be fucked with almost any character outside a d:1 death SpMo or something. Outside of Mo they all have weapons so 99% of us would be ded anyway.

How much damage would a 12 gauge do?
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>>127097412
Whooo, congrats! That's a big barrier to have shattered.
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>>127097754
As much as an iron rod's spell, I guess.

>>127097705
>implying the Pharaoh won't turn your Slime Pits into his Tomb
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>>127097864
l-lewd
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>>127097754
Early on casters can take several tries to kill fucking rats, so I think most d:1-3 casters would get wrecked by anyone even remotely in shape and with a nearby sharp or blunt object.
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>>127095472
You can also speed up the animations in Dredmor.
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>>127097129
have you considered the fact that said person may have been a retard?
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>>127098297
yeah that's what I meant, though I realized after posting that the grammar leaned towards an unintended meaning. For most things in the classic roguelikes, there are no animations, just instantaneous state changes
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>>127097573
TeSu of xom

Send help
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>>127098645
>Te
punch him once and he'll keel over
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>>127097242
Maybe something like the light mechanics in Darkest Dungeon? Seeing more of the real world makes it easier to get crits on enemies and find items/secrets, but causes increased sanity loss. Suppose you could tie it in with stealth too.
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>>127051043
For me it's bag of holding, amulet of life saving and a magic marker. Or two magic markers for extra genocide because that thing is really good and blessed scrolls in dyna only work as uncursed scrolls in vanilla
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>>127061208
Happy new year happyloli
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>>127097412
it was also extra spooky seeing my ghost online less than a day after dying
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>>127065347
No that's me
Hi anon
Happy new year
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>>127076798
>War doesn't solve puzzles, he just wants to kill
As foretold by the ancient scriptures.
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>>127099452
and to you as well
:)
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>>127098952
>Xom resses him
>Xom summons army of rape demons
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>>127097573
>MuMo
Little does he know that stairdancing and mummy cardio do not work in real life!
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>>127099870
>Xom inflicts a miscast effect on him
>Xom summons demons that are hostile to him
>Xom animated his weapon to attack him
>Xom kils him with a miscast
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>>127099870
>but they all gang up on him
Such is life with bestgod.
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>>127100072
>>127100167
>TeSu has died...

Xom calls his buddy Qazlal to cast disaster zone
>Blows me and the house up
>You have died...
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>Troll Monk
>Doing alright, find and join Jivya for the first time
>Get more hair, big muscles, covered in golden eyeballs, good mutations
>Leave lair to clear rest of the Dungeon
>Get to D:14
>Attacked by two tengu conjurers and an Efreet
>Teleport outta there and end up in front of a Hydra
>Use a berserk potion and kill it
>Open a door, tons of skeletal warriors
>Teleport away into the middle of the Vault Guards
>Die

fuck Jivya
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>>127101306
How was any of that Jivya's fault? It seems more like errors on your part.
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>>127101353

It's Jivya's fault somehow.
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>>127101306
How was that Jivya's fault?
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>>127101431
lol
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>>127101306
>I am literally retarded
-you
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>>127101306
you know that comic with the bike and the stick
that's you right now
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>>127102628
fucking elves
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>>127102628
RA HELP ME
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>>127102628

I know I'm not good at DCSS

I'm an FPS player primarily
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>>127103532
unless you play sp shooters or are one of the resident quakefags you should be used to rng and risk management by now
unless you suck at fps too
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>>127103532
eh teleporting on an unexplored floor is always risky in any RL. a good lesson even if it was the best choice left by that point.

a lot less unfair than the angband anon who got his shit pushed in by an enemy double move manastorm though he too opened himself up to risk by staying engaged with a slightly faster and casts-intelligently monster capable of manastorm

probably should get at least a wee bit of stealth on your monks though by that point, it can help a lot.
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Not sure if Rogue-lites are welcome here but I need help. I'm looking for a good splunky-like platformer Rougue-lite, but with more legit RPG elements like leveling, stats, inventory, and gear.

I've found 2 games that seem to fit my preference, but I don't know which one is better. Catacomb Kids or Vagante.

If anything. Vagante seems to have a much more competent update cycle and has offline multiplayer, close to getting online, while Catacomb Kids seems to have literally had all it's updates be l8 and the game isn't really complete at all. Though they're both pretty damn steep in price (13 bucks for an early access Rogue-lite) so I'm still on the fence.
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>>127104061
inb4 mean posts
no they're not really. I recommend asking in the indie games general.
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I love you /rlg/!
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>>127104176
Fair enough senpai.
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>>127104281
happy new year senpai
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>>127004542
>It's shit and dumb and I hate everything it represents
>choked full of memes
So DCSS is also not a rogue-like then?
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>>127105082
requesting pls no necro of resolved argument
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>>127105082
No, it is a roguelike. It's just a shitty meme roguelike, obviously
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>>127103839

I play Quake, Painkiller, Blood, that shit

I rely on my reflexes to get me out of danger
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>>127105675
Remember it's a turn-based game and you have all the time in the world to make a move. If you get into a dangerous situation you should leave and make yourself a cup of tea or something instead of panicking and doing something stupid.
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>>127105805

I know, but old habits die hard. I'm entirely too used to being able to outrun and outmaneuver things.
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>>127104061
>Not sure if Rogue-lites are welcome here
They are not.
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I think Fedhas and Jivya should be combined into one, or give Jivya fungi and take them away from Fedhas.

Because slimes are fungi.
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>>127105675
>>127105805
>>127105887
yes in those games, real-life-time tempo matters...waiting to review the situation just lets it degrade. As you probably realize abstractly, if not yet instinctively, in roguelikes, burning a turn wastefully serves the same function...giving up tempo and letting the situation worsen.

You can always post here with a screenshot and a link to a pastebin of your character dump to get some input and also help you keep your hands from absently making a move.

>>127105969
no need for that anon, it was already resolved to the satisfaction of all involved.
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>>127106110
>no need for that anon, it was already resolved to the satisfaction of all involved.

WE DEMAND BLOOD!
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>>127106884
fah, there is enough blood in our own splats and conquests to sate a thousand Trogs
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>>127106884
>>127107076
and besides, the blood of rogueliters is thin and feeble stuff
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>>127107163
especially considering how many of us play drunk
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>>127107076
>>127107163
Good point.
Guess I'll go with a

WE DEMAND BLOWJOBS!
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>>127107251
>playing drunk
You'll never ascend MuMo like that anon.
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Fucking dank.
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What's a game that's like DCSS but fun?
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>>127109765
>FREE dith aura
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>>127109991
you suffer the negatives of the aura as much as your enemies do
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>>127111442
sure but you suffer it for free
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>>127107251
We need more 100% drunk runs.
Speaking as someone just heading home from his new years festivities.
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>>127112196
have you ever tried drugrobin?
account: drugrobin
password: robin
make sure you play console and strap onto your butthole
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>>127112243
Unless someone else has done something, my progress on drugrobin is current until when I started to get too sober. Should be a DsCK in lair 8 unless someone else got to it.
Iirc, the acidrobin etc's trippy rcs don't work any longer if that's what you were thinking of.
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>>127112397
oh fuck, I was thinking of Acidrobin, yeah
rip acidrobin
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>page 10
We're splatting!
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>>127112397
>the acidrobin etc's trippy rcs don't work any longer
WHEN WILL THE DEVIL'S TEAM STOP?
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Happy new year you fucks. While I was out drinking, all of you gave extremely poor crawl advice. What the hell man? You're supposed to help others git gud, not ruin them.
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>>127114806
Fault!
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how do i play stabby stabby in dcss

i'm not at d:10 yet and things already need 5+ casts to sleep/confuse and i think it only gets worse and god forbid i meet more than one enemy at a time
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>>127114885
Slowly and carefully. Use and abuse poison needles. Save the curare ones for threats such as ogres, giants, and uniques. Also, what race are you playing?
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>>127114820
It was really a compat thing iirc.
>>127114841
Honestly I hope every new crawl player gives up and moves onto a better RL or simply leaves, so this is fine.
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>>127115013
>this kills /rlg/
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>>127115171
60 IPs instead of 80-110 is fine with me.
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So there you are, you sonofabitch.
Glad I've decided to finally dive Angband.
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>>127016034
Woah, another Adelaide roguelike fan.
I wonder if I've ever seen you.
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>>127115665
>Implying I leave the house

But seriously you may have, since it seems like I run into everyone I know fairly often here since it's so small. If you go to Adelaide uni we've probably been nearby at some point.
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>tfw +6 vampiric executioner's axe via scroll on lair 1
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>>127115013
>>127115283
Well aren't you just a sad toxic cunt who the thread would be better off without.
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>>127109878
DCSS is THE most fun-friendly roguelike.

Too bad I hate fun.
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>>127116592
Prepare to die.
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>>127116928
Fun killed my parents too.
Fun is for nerds and weaklings.
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>>127117001
I think I'll do well until Pits 6 or Vaults 5, where I'll splat as I often do. The enemies density's too thick down there
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>get boots of running on d2
>get beginning of hooves mutation on d4
>immediately want to quit this char
Why does demonspawn screw me over when it really matters... Playing the most fun race sure sucks sometimes.

Also wth is fcrawl, an offshoot for salty ppl who don't like the direction it's going?
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>>127117318
>The enemies density's too thick down there
Just like my dick ;)
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I need dcss memes
pls deliver
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pls
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Which roguelike has your favourite magic system? I like the enormous variety that DCSS offers, but is there anything better out there?
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>>127117509
don't tease me sempai
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>>127118157
How did you know what im trying to do? Maybe we could help eachother in this new year ;)
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guys.
pls.
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>>127118197
that'd slow down my roguelike progress, I'm afraid
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>>127117969
10/10
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what meme hell is this...
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>>127118467
No it wouldnt, we would play roguelikes too and learn from eachother
Please anon, lets do it!
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