XCOM General - /xcg/

Retaliation Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryOfZv0JjIg [Embed]
Don't forget to check firaxisgames latest vod at Twitch.

Beagle's First Two Missions Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9vG-N0ILB0 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT_0gsOmsQE [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X1Tfx_TM38 [Embed]

60 Minute Gameplay Video:
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Misc Videos:
https://youtu.be/HVw-QOU06WU [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-cSh3aPDPw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tqHWR_J7VU [Embed]
Other Articles:
>https://xcom.com/news/en-the-aesthetic-of-domination-the-look-of-advent-and-the-archon-in-xcom-2
>http://www.pcgamesn.com/xcom-2/xcom-2-declassified-firaxis-on-the-risky-shot-theyre-taking-with-a-new-strategy-layer
>https://xcom.com/news/en-dont-get-in-the-andromedons-way-in-xcom-2
>https://xcom.com/news/en-the-environments-of-xcom-2-wilderness

Got xcom EU from the winter sale the other day, played a bit and got my team wiped. Deleted the save since I was playing on iron man.

Vee has told me to focus on researching laser weapons and the armor. Any other pro tips and tricks?

>>126527481
Fucking please man, reign in your autistic furry fetish

break los

post screenshots of what youre doing

>>126527856
>snek
>furry
pls

>>126527946
this was for >>126527837

1. break los
2. git gud

/thread

>>126528092
3. If 1 and 2 fail then blame RNG.

>>126527481
>shit op
>shit edition

yeah go fuck yourself

>>126528142
>blame RNG
DONT SUMMON PONE POSTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSciFwv0SIU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAy4WX4KwUE

>>126527481
Dumb snekposter

bought EW on steam sale

should I just play vanilla for starters?

I think I pirated EU when it came out, and got nowhere

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>>126527948
You can change the name for it but not the fact you are a degenerate. I bet your ancestors were sheepfuckers.

I'm out of this gayshit general

>>126528853
Play EW on classic, then play the long war mod.

How do I stop losing countries from the program?

I've lost 4 in my first 2 months.

>>126528853
tbqh for any game ever you should run it on pure 100% vanilla (incl. "included" mods or special modes, in this case being Second Wave options), and on second hardest difficulty available

this applies to all games

>>126528963
b r e a k l o s

>>126529001
>tbqh
Opinion discarded

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Downloaded the ayy lmao ingame text thing, where do you put it to make it work?
what does break los mean?

>>126529196

line of sight

>>126528963
get good

>>126529196
>he downloaded Reddit: the mod

>>126529573
this thread feels like reddit with all the memes and shitposting

shit op

>>126529968
>memes are exclusively reddit
okay, reddit

Supports don't seem very supporty. Why are they so lame while everyone else is so effective?

>>126530717
break los

>>126530717
>he doesn't have bullet swarm, bombard, and mayhem on his suports

>>126530732
Ebin post, famiglia.

>>126530921
Exactly. Supports don't have any of those things.

So are rocketmen supposed to be fucking worthless, or am I too early into Long War is see how useful they are?

>>126531139
maybe YOURS don't m8

>>126531276
They're as worthless as their commander.

>>126531276
>taking rockets in LW where they have actual inaccuracy/scatter

>taking shots that aren't 100%

Duuude....

>>126531276
git gud

>>126531337
Sorry, I don't cheat.

>half of the squad dies trying to capture alien
>vahlen haves an orgasm as soon as specimen comes home

i'm actually glad that psycho bitch won't be in xcom 2 nowhere around my soldiers

>>126531873
>half of the squad dies trying to capture alien
You are really bad at video games, my man.

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>>126532046

There's a lot of disrespect for snek in here

>>126532393
Fuck sneks

>>126532412
Damn right I want to fuck the sneks

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>>126531873
>soldier is pinned down by two aliums
>nowhere to escape
>grenade the fuck out of them
>while I know our solider's survival is top priority, each time you use explosives we lose valuable fragments and artifacts"
>that soldier's face when

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>>126532271
lemme guess, you gave the arc thrower to yr fukken Assaults because you got owned by the memes yet again lmao

half the time I just beat the shit out of ayys with the arc thrower because I have a support in range to run up and smoke it through a wall instead of taking dumbass 12% shots through cover

the Arc Thrower fukken owns, you are just dogshit my man

>>126532464
Break LOS

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>>126532393

>>126532526
But they're grills

>>126532464
>it took long enough for you to use explosives that you only got the Vahlen "no explosiv pls ;_;" bark once you started facing ayys with Suppression

what's it like playing on Easy

>>126532725
It was the second mission...

>>126531873
I actually don't like the direction they are taking Vahlen in xcom2. Making her into some generic psychotic scientist doesn't actually mesh with her original character at all. She never does her praise lines for successful missions unless all of your soldiers make it home and specifically has lines about being surprised how callous the aliens are and being genuinely shocked by the first terror attack. I don't know, just seems weird for her to to go loony instantly after the aliens take over.

>>126532824
>responding to shitpost

D O N ' T
O
N
'
T

>>126532464
Should have broken los, tard

>>126532825
There's a difference between "I'm gonna cut up this dead guy for science and aftermarket parts for my BMW-- I mean my troops' armor" and "I'm gonna explicitly murder noncombatants for literally no strategic reason other than showing my might"

>>126532604
furry faggot

>>126533124
But they're reptiles

>>126533201
furry isn't about fur or scales specifically

it's a way of life

Is there any advantage to a rookie getting a buttload of kills on the mission that ends up promoting them to squaddie, or is there some kind of cap?

>>126533228
Jerking it to anthro doesn't make you a furfaggot, as a fetish it's pretty low tier/average

Dressing up in anthro suits, having a fursona and going to furry conventions makes you a furfaggot

>>126530717

Supports are the worst class in EW, which is hilarious because Specialists look to be the clear best.

The opposite happened with Assaults/Rangers.

>>126533357
>furfaggotry is defined by monetary investment into materiel and events
you may as well start going on about how only REAL MEN will take women out and pay their whole way and JUST BOYS ask to split bills

baka

>>126533469
It's defined by monetary investment AND how delusional you are. The same defining line between a full blown weeb and that guy who occasionally watches anime/reads manga.

>>126533389
>Supports are the worst class in EW,
Sprinter and Deep Pockets, tho

also, they have pretty good Aim and smoke grenades are op as fug. I use them more to do assault things than my actual Assaults. They're very middle-of-the-road but allow for actual tactical flexibility, so they work out to doing more useful overall than anyone else who can only do one thing ever, usually only once or twice per mission

>>126533636
>delusional
that's the line between furry and otherkin, not furry and non-furry

most furfags use their characters for no more than roleplay and identify with animals in passing only (ex. "I roleplay a bird because I am a friggin klepto irl and we all know about magpies", or "my character is a snek because I really liked the snek from [shitty disney flick]"), if even that

t. a furfag

>tfw everything online says Snipers are godly but maps never seem to have enough visibility/verticality for them to ever be useful for me
>usually just roll two rifle Assaults, two rocket Heavies, and two medic Supports

Help?

What kind of squad composition are you thinking for XCOM 2?

>>126534278
Same i'm running right now, two squad sight snipers and a bunch of bait.

>>126534278
All rangers so I can break los all the time

>>126534278

Two Specialists (one hacking, one medic), two Grenadiers, one Sharpshooter, one Ranger named "Overwatch bait."

>>126534278
One of every class with 2 sharpshooters, one sniper the other gun-fu

>>126534197
This is another one of those cases where the typical XCOM MAY MAYS ("break los", "assaults w/ arc thrower") will just hurt your play.

Give your snipers Ghost Armor when you get it, not Archangel, and keep them low on the map. LOS bugs and generally poor design means that usually, it'll be easier to get LOS on enemies from the same level than one above.

Don't be afraid to move your snipers around; the Overwatch Bug can be abused to let them move and go on overwatch, and enemies will freely move if they don't know they're being overwatched from outside their own sight range, scoring hits from your sniper between turns, pretty much every turn.

Don't try to set up ITZ chain shots by flanking, it'll take too long. Just rocket/grenade things to soften them and remove cover, and then take the shots with your sniper. Double Tap sucks and is useless and gay compared to ITZ. It doesn't even work half the time.

>>126534278
full ranger for nuffin personnel

>>126534278
whatever the melee one is because the Arc Thrower is already fun as fuck to use in EU

Also I'm canadian so my combat doctrine is aggressive as fuck and all about closing distances as fast as safely possible to overwhelm the enemy instead of bothering with this "flanking" nonsense

>>126535329
Worked great at Dieppe.

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rip in peace ;_;

>>126535257
>>126535329

I don't like the look of the Ranger, idk why. My rifle Assaults were fun as fuck but the sword thing is just stupid.

>>126532940
but almost every post in the last two of these threads I've seen is a shitpost.

I don't come to /vg/ often but xcom general is one of the most unsavory communities I've seen here.

>>126531276
>Use stabilize
>proceed to land every rocket
>??????

>>126535775
How is stabilizing a critically wounded soldier going to help with rocket accuracy?

>>126535865
That's your first mistake, getting him wounded.

Good rocketeers are as valuable as gold in LW.
Never bring them to the front unless you're 100% sure to wipe pods you popped or got a way to save them ex. Command from squad leader.

>>126535998
How are you going to use stabilize if they're not wounded?

>>126536075
Steady Aim you pedant

If you actually played long war you'd know what he meant

>>126536146
But there is no steady aim.

>>126535390
amphibious operations are notorious bloodbaths

>>126528963
make lots of satellites and deploy them over problem countries.

>>126529114
>>126528092
>>126527946
>>126530732
>>126529535

when did /xcg/ start being so unhelpful?

>>126536510
No idea, I was gone for a few months and in between when I left and now this whole "break los" meme has popped up and replaced all useful advice.

>>126535329
>I'm from x country so x
dipshit

>>126536146
>use wrong term
>get angry

alright, these threads are officially useless, cancerous shitholes.
it's been fun 3 hours with you, /xcg/.

>>126536302
You're right, it's steady weapon. Are you happy now, autist?

>>126534278
Shooty Grenadier, Tech Specialist, Gunslinger Sharpshooter and Scout Ranger for my main squad, Med Specialist as my 5th man and whatever one of the new classes is as my sixth

>>126536729
No need to be so mad, bro.

>>126536847
No need to be so autistic, either. Keep your rocketeers somewhere fairly safe and steady weapon. Then use them as a panic button if things get unexpectedly bad. They can really save your bacon.

>>126536916
But there is. Advice given should be accurate.

>>126527481
>No Edition
>Snekfucker pic

Reported.

>>126536510
>when did /xcg/ start being so unhelpful?
when you failed to break los

>>126530717
>3 times 40 defense smoke grenades
>Useless

You piece of crap.

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>New Xcg thread

>94 posts

>19 of them are about breaking LOS after ctrl+f

Goddamnit you freeking goons, can't you do anything more constructive than that?

Seriously, last time I posted I at least contributed new screens and shit. (pic related)

>>126537714
"Break LOS" isn't a meme, it's the only way to play the fucking game, you shitter.

>>126529196
Put it in XComGame > Localization > INT

I'll try making one again for XCOM 2 after the game comes out and I finish my first playthrough.

>>126537817

I'd like to see proof that any of you assgoblins who post "Break LOS" shit has ever actually played the fucking game, because all I'm seeing is shit wrapped in memes wrapped in more shit.

Seriously, when one fifth of our content is one fucking meme, we've gotta start thinking about what the fuck our player base is like, because god-damn we are shitgoats,

>>126537996
>Full shield
Nice. Did you start in France?

Why are terror missions so dumb? Either you charge forward and activate all pods, who then proceed to fuck off somewhere and shoot civilians or you steadily lose people to "fog"

>battlescanners
Yeah, I threw three of those and the next turn 3 civvies died for no reason - can't they at least limit it to one per turn?

>>126538094
>because god-damn we are shitgoats,
Well, maybe you are, shitter. Sorry you can't understand a concept as simple as "Break LOS".

>>126538172
no i'm in july 2017

>>126538241
>wah wah fog death RNG
You're just mad and bad; you could stop blaming the game for your own failures, but we all know you won't. Break LOS, Git Gud. have a backup plan instead of crying when the game doesn't hand you wins on a silver platter like Call of Duty.

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>>126538241
Is this Long War? I agree its frustrating but its the aliens only way of raising panic.

>>126538341
oh ok

>>126538365
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>>126538365
Don't pop a vein you memer wiener

No one normal can defend fog death

>>126538253

Imma just sit here then and watch the thread crawl up in posts.

>15 hours layyter
>511 posts
>119 "Break LOS Lemao Lemao leeeeemaaaaaaaaooooooo

ep, I'm just gonna filter that shit out because when an average of one fifth of content per thread is the same meme, it's gotta be the same asstard posting utter shit and fucking his pet snek because the internet told him too . . . I see no damn reason to pay attention any more.

In unrelated shit, anyone know if Beags/Aturo is going to be posting any more XC2 content before release or not?

>>126538818
>one person is up 24/7 posting "Break LOS" just to make you upset
Or maybe you're bad at the game and are being told what's wrong with your play. But whatever, anything to deflect criticism and refuse to git gud. :)

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That is one very panic prone rookie.

>>126538818
I feel like if he was going to post his details video, it would have actually happened before. If there is more content posted, it will be from another event in the future.

>>126538818
just ignore it

>>126538965

Upset?

I prefer new content to having one person shit up an entire thread with the same memes.

Come up with something new, until then I'll fucking filter out everything with "break LOS" in it. So I can break LOS with your assgoblin behavior

>>126538818
it's just /v/tard meming non stop with le los maymay because he got blown the fuck out with it on the first place.

>>126538039
Cheers, looking forward to some ayy.

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>>126539098
>being this upset that you were told how to play the game instead of crying about fog death and RNG

fraps is free

>>126538818
beags is burnt out on magnificent design and is just going to play UFO Defense and post other game videos until X2.

>>126529573
funny because that mod was made here

>>126539307

And I made an Xcom series years ago - I was shit at playing it, shit at recording it - far too fucking drunk, and set up the perfect start for a canon Xcom 2 start game.

Don't believe me? I'm ready and able to embarrass the shit out of myself on youtube and 4chan. Why? I don't fucking care.

Here's a fucking link --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abvch0kubTE&index=1&list=PLqNKaMDNliTe17pcwEXhgetz7xJYtuK-1

The video is three years old, before Enemy Within and Long War, full of shit and beyond being "cringeworthy viewing" . . . In fact I can't even remember what I said or did in it - but the fact still stands that I created more "content" in that one video than you have in days/weeks/years of shitting up threads on 4chan while "breaking LOS"

Your move, snekfucker.

>81%
deals min damage
>91%
miss
>98%
miss
>71%
miss
>69%
miss
>49%
miss
>71%
miss
>72%
miss


RNJESUS ALL I WANT TO DO IS KILL THIS FLOATER

>>126539642
Should make for some good viewing while I do my AssaultCOM run. Thanks, anon.

>>126539642
>so upset that he has doxxed himself

and the /v/poster's identity is revealed. kekaroni

>>126538993
Shit man are you trying to turn the game into Trine?

>>126533389

About Supports i agree a bit, In EW they had only Smoke and Healthpacks, but if you get not wounded during a mission this was a useless ability.
The biggest advantage of the specialist is, that his drone-actions only use one action point, so he can hack/heal/buff and than shoot in the same turn, this is awesome.

I don't think Assaults are so awesome in EW.
The problem is, that they can only kill one opponent at a time, and "run and gun" is too important for them. The Ranger can always run and gun with his sword and one talent give him the ability to move again, a other one to get another turn after a swordkill. So you chain up kills after kills and destroy whole groups.

But ok, the Ranger stealth tree don't look very impressive yet, i hope we will see more soon.

>>126539857
No, I didn't try; I succeeded.

>open one door
>3 pods inside

literally unwinnable

>>126539809

Ha! Jokes on you! I've never even been to /v/!

Also, doxxing myself? Try harder scrub.

Why not try looking away from the screen while you are at it? seeing as you like breaking LOS so much?

>>126540162
>someone's mind has literally been broken this hard by just uttering "Break LOS"

Have you considered not being terrible at the game and following the advice?

>>126540159
was the door opened by a steadying rocketeer? why not?

>>126540159
>open one door
There's your problem.

>>126540419
the rocketeer was breaking LOS in vanilla

>>126536510
I blame Beagle

>>126540958
so why not shrek it with the easymode vanilla rocket
dont even need to steady

>>126537659
didn't say useless, anon

stop inventing opinions and yelling at them

>>126541182
he was breaking LOS

http://strawpoll.me/6358061

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>>126540421
>Snakefaggot furry homo general
>goes to absolute shit with shitposting and dankest memes

Goes to show

>>126537659
"useless" is a very high bar; even a rookie with a pistol is not "useless"
How about we use something more reasonable, for example "not competitive"? A rifle that can shoot once, plus some medkits and smokes, are not sufficient to compete with ITZ opportunist snipers or bulletswarm rocket heavies.

>>126539949

I think the sword is fucking dumb.

Fingers crossed for stealth rifle Rangers with Lightning Reflexes.

>7 consecutive raiders raid my airgame
god damn

>>126541586
>even a rookie with a pistol is not "useless"

pistols are useful?

>>126541196
>>126541586
Dang sorry, I was upset about those snek memers.

Supports are the last resort if everything goes wrong.

>>126536510
it's too close to release and most of the people who were actually contributing to this thread left

no tears, only shitpost now

>>126542425
No

>>126541976

The Ranger have something like Lightning Reflexes. He get a new ability where his movement don't trigger any amount of overwatches.
I hope he get an ability to go back in concealment-mode, without it, the stealth tree would be only good for scouting.

>>126542638
even LW, where medkits are a lot more valuable because of higher attrition, struggled to make medics useful

>>126541586
maybe in LW but LW is a meme game

in vanilla, supports have very good aim, can suppress stuff, and smoke grenades help a lot. they also get two overwatches a turn, which helps a ton if you play defensively

>tfw no XCOM game where there's no squad combat and you just manage things on a global level

kill me

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yay for first assault carrier shootdown

>>126543942
I miss REDS.

>>126544241
he;s breaking LOS in the sky now.

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This is the number one map for Covert Extractions. Prove me wrong.

>>126544631
t. bagel

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>>126544631
Excavation site is better.

>forget your favorite qt mec maifu isn't invincible
>get her killed
;~;

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>Still the first month
>Bodies stacking up like cordwood
I should feel bad about this, but I don't.

>>126545498
>tfw literally never made a MEC last playthrough

>>126545641
>there's a knife stabbed into the table

>you never get any melee weapons

also lol drone beams killing people

>>126545827
Its long war but still...

>>126545732
>meld is $4 each
>can get 1000 eurobux in the second month alone
sry Shen, your fetishes are too expensive..

>>126545827
Rookies lives are cheap. My solution is just to throw bodies at the aliens until they get smothered by corpses.

>>126545641
give everyone plate and tac armor unless theyre 5 hp 11 mobility, and dont train the pieces of shit that start with 3hp

>>126545919
I mean, if you were playing ufo:defense that might work, but your gonna get rekt in Long War m8. Your losing out on all that precious xp and you need a big roster to deal with fatigue spiral.

>>126546080
I mean that I've literally made rookies' lives cheap. I have 19 more coming in before the next paycheck.

>>126546296
Unless you changed xp values to level up your still gonna get swamped. Rookies only take you so far.

>>126546445
The ones that survived have been leveling up, so I'm not short on specialists or anything right now either.

>>126546615
>specialists
still not good enough, my man

>>126546615
If it works out that's great, but I'm still pretty dubious about it.

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>>126546860

>>126546937
>>126546967
Maybe not, but it will be a fun ride into the ground.
They're also all assaults.

Can someone explain the break los meme?

I've played a bunch, but I'm new to xcg

>>126547269
>Sound advice
>meme
Pick one.

>>126547308
>sound meme
>advice

fixed

>>126547269
It just refers to hiding behind high cover objects so aliens can't see you or move and see you. When aliens can't see any of your troops, their AI acts a bit wonky. If you are in a situation where you know (or without gettting extremely lucky) that you can't kill all the enemys and people will go down, you can hid everyone and then peak out to see if aliens move into grenade range or flank themselves.

However, lately people have been spamming los in answer to anything. People telling you to break los with no context are just shitposting.

>>126543467
so you just want an xcom 4x or grand strategy game?

you do know about beyond earth or the endless games, right?

>>126547913
No, he wants a game where you plan and execute the defense of earth without micromanaging the ground combat.

So if the missions were all like the air missions, and the nuance of the game were in the base management and setting up defended around earth.

>>126547630
Oh so it's just an exploit of the AI along the lines of you can't see me

>>126548617
Pretty much. It only works if the aliens can't see everybody. When aliens see on person, they can see everyone.

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uh oh

>>126548858
>When aliens see on person, they can see everyone.
thats not true

ayys won't respond or react to the actions of soldiers outside their sight range

>>126549330
I'm pretty sure it is true. I don't think they react to overwatch out of sight range because they don't think it can hit them. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. Also, aliens will usually refuse to move into positions that would flank themselves if someone could immediately shoot at that position. They can't do this unless they know at least somewhat where troops are out of los. They usually know where all of your troops could shoot in the immediate moment without moving.

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>>126549914
>I'm pretty sure it is true

>>126550140
I can offer you my own experience with the game, Watching all of beagle's lnI and alot of his xcom streams. He might he even explicitly say it in there, but I would have to go find it.

>ALIEN ACTIVITY
>15 minutes later
>ALIEN ACTIVITY
How active are these aliens?

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So with eggsalt out of the picture, its all about getting my 4 rifts and temple ship is good to go.

Did we ever find out the 5th class in xcom 2?

>>126553310
Recruits that totally aren't Faceless.

One of the winter sale fags here again, i got to a mission in newfoundland and all of my best soldiers perished there, even the guy who had survived from the tutorial got killed, when i got to the ship i rushed with my 3 remaining heavily injured troops to start the airstrike but i could not make it out in time, one of the girls tried to run but got chased down by the chryssalids, the last remaining was a girl i put in one of those big mechs, she fought in the ship commandcabin in a last stand, powerfisting her fallen comrades as they rose as zombies to kill her, it was really sad, and i dont know i can continue playing now that i have lost all my veterans, do you?

>>126553310
psi op

>>126553310
psidog

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>All the pods on the map were in the same spot and triggered at once
>Kill most of the ayys, three squadmembers left
>Ayys get bullshit crits and kill all but the chilong
>3 death timers go off at once
>chilong panics
>Squadwipe

W H Y

>>126553770
magnificent

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Daily reminder to use mimic beacons

>>126553879
I remember playing EW the 1st time, tough those would be OP as shit on my assault with 1-2 squad sight snipers in the team.

They're fucking worthless. Are they seriously that good in LW? Might do another playtrough soon.

>>126553989
>chopping zhang
where?

>>126553879
fugg

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>>126554007
just have a good psi engineer with 80+ will, and it can nullify muton elites and heavy floaters.
(they can still shoot though, they roll for the will check every move)

Meme beacons only work on activated aliens, right?

>>126554502
ye
they roll for a % every action (2 actions per turn)
they will either fail to resist and automatically move towards the beacon, or resist and take a normal action.

the will check depends on the memebeacon's user's will and the ayy's will
melites and hfloaters are famous for very low will.

it works for 2 ayy turns.

>>126549914
>Also, aliens will usually refuse to move into positions that would flank themselves if someone could immediately shoot at that position.
no they'll do it and then rethink the maneuver if they see a guy

it's that aliens can't dash, they'll blue move, go "wuh oh there's a nigga there" and pick different cover

you're gay and wrong and also kill you're selve

>>126553601
>losing people in newfoundland
git
gud

>>126553601
flashbang and shotguns are actually useful

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ayyfirmative

>>126558158
>hey remember the old games? those were so much better than this one, right? Yeah, just lay back and think of cydonia, girl.

also new laser rifle a shit, why does it have that giant "magazine"

>>126558269
Lasers need batteries and capacitors.

>>126558269
so you can be pissed with it, just like with most of the shit in eu/ew

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>>126558158
5million hours

>>126558446
why not put them in the stock like how the old Evans Repeater (and many other repeaters) had their magazines extend into the stock. or a configuration like the Girandoni -- "reservoir (batteries) form the stock, and a tubular magazine runs under the rifle (where capacitors could go)

also why doesn't the laser rifle have a sight?

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You do you, Major

So, did /v/ conquered this general because of the "le xcom is hard" meme?

>>126562064
with posts coming in 10 minute intervals, I don't think ANYONE has conquered this general in quite some time.

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post carnage

>>126562064
>"le xcom is hard"
No it's not. Just break los

>>126553601
You're supposed to rush in your soldier with biggest mobility to start the transponder, and keep your other units at the other side of the ship. As soon as you activate the transponder, rush all your troops back to the skyranger.

The first time the mission is hard, but you'll get it right eventually

>>126553601
>>126563364
Oh and if it's vanilla, you could probably still win it, just keep training your A team and try to sat rush

>>126553601
don't activate aliens on your turn

this will win you that mission

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>>126562890

Anyone got that image where that enemy had almost every single perk in the game?

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>>126565730

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuO1m1B4O2I

when does this play

>>126566136
name of the song makes me think of the tutorial

>>126566136
>The description even says where it plays

Jesus christ

>tfw you commit to a mission you really shouldn't have and come out on top anyway

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>>126567246

>>126527481
>>126527558

you are so fucking retarded.

>>126541586

In LW they have the best psi progression in the game and free medkits + support grenades are a great load out. You should never use their gun when they get to a decent level.

You can make great LW medics with high will, decent mobility troops that are useless for anything else because they don't take fire or shoot their gun. They psi buff and debuff or do the same with support grenades. When your guys get hurt they can heal even with a full loadout of support grenades.

>Friends in low places council mission
>The one where you get run over by thin mints in 2 turns

Jesus, what should I have even brought with me to this level?

>>126569237
lots of overwatch and very very slow movement ahead

>>126569237

You should come into it with an optimized strategy. Basically turtle in the left corner until you kill a couple of pods and the random drops stop. Kill the final pod before you pass the halfway point of the map and new thinmints start dropping.

>>126569237
infantry and smoke

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Beat my first Insane campaign today.

Xenonauts last mission is way too easy though.

>>126569237

medikits on everybody

>>126569624
I hear Xenonauts is bad and I'm not willing to pay for it even if it's good, but damn if the screens from this game don't make me tingle inside.

It just seems like it has so much love put into it.

Where can I get a general knowledge for this game?

>Haven't played for ages, and failed at the base assault first time
>Pick it up again as I bought EW.
>Think I am doing really well, breeze through Base Assault
>1 Major MEC assault geared for support, 1 high level Sniper with Genetics for healing and elevation bonuses, 1 assault, 2 support and a final decent sniper.
>Assault, Support dies.
>Get the infiltrate enemy mission, so I think to send my genetic sniper off
>Lol, base attacked
> So out gunned, only managed to get armor upgrades really

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>Feel like I should name all of these people to feel closer to them and more compelled to work at it
>Don't want to because I suck at naming
That aside, Leah there missed a damn 75% shot and didn't get promoted and my assault promote is injured because no one could hit 50%+ shots.

>>126570357
Its not bad at all. Bro tier developers as well who made the modded community version (improves a lot of stuff and adds more of those awesome art screens) into the game's launcher for anyone to use.

>>126569556
>you need literal clairvoyance and tons of metagaming to complete the mission

wow that sounds like a fun game

>>126570454
Yikes!!! sounds legit

but still, I am a poverty-stricken nigger who hates fun so I won't buy it.

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Reminder that memes are dreams

>>126570426
Base assault is a dick move that you just have to know about from experience to not bleed from it, another is newfoundland.

A plain playthrough on normal is what I'd do to learn the ropes, it's a difficulty you can't lose on so you can roll with the losses and experience the game and maybe remember them for harder playthroughs with LW or whatever.

>>126570786
>it's a difficulty you can't lose on
ok there's no reason to meme out THAT hard, it is literally possible to lose on Normal and lots of people do it. just look at the SomethingAwful XCOM thread for examples

25% off XCOM 2 at GMG, use 25PERC-2016GM-WTHGMG

You are going to buy the deluxe edition, aren't you? Don't you want to support Firaxis?

>2 panic, 200 cred reward
>1 panic, 4 engi reward
I feel like this is a tough choice.
It's really early so the extra credits could get my second sat uplink available, but I lack the engis to build it anyways.

>>126570673
Either you play it on normal, where you can take the losses and keep going, or you play it on the higher difficulties where knowing what will happen ('clairvoyance') is assumed.

>>126570871
>it is literally possible to lose on Normal
ok, play on normal and spam sats. Grats, now you know enough to not lose on normal.

Is there a way to draw your own soldiers path in xcom? Have an acid cloud blocking me, and regular pathing is sending me through it even if its avoidable by going around the other side of the pillar and the movement spent is the same

>>126570673

It's a bullshit mission, I agree. The random drop in mechanic in general is bullshit.

>>126571027
>ok, play on normal and spam sats.
some people still manage to fuck it up, and if you're only gonna consider "losing" in the completely literal game over sense of "council disbanded", then Impossible is piss easy and you can't ever do anything wrong there either because the game loves you so much and even sucks your dick for you.

>>126570786
So I should just give up then. I was on normal, but as soon as my Major drops. My whole squad just wipes

>>126571012
>tough choice
>you answer your choice in the post
doesn't sound that tough to me

>>126571335
git gud
break los

what more do you want us to tell you?

>>126570673
then pirate it you double nigger
god damn

>>126571562
Sorry, I was just wondering if there was a basic New player guide a few other generals make.

Just stupid things that you need to know

>>126571851
>being a thief
pls no

>>126571038
Nope. Wait for it to clear or manually move your guys around it

>One guy dies immediately
>Other 3 injured
Christ I'm bad.

>>126571335
Start with a new squad. Buy hover shivs if rookies are too outclassed by now, even with upgraded gear.

>>126571310
yeah good fucking luck coming back on impossible with a subpar strategic game and only rookies surviving in month 3
the whole point of normal is that rookies remain trainable even if that's all you have left, and the council doesn't leave enmasse on one failed mission

>>126571990
>a basic New player guide

B R E A K

L
O
S

>>126571990
You could have a read through the Ufopaedia, there should be some tips
http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Enemy_Unknown_%28EU2012%29

But you came to this general at literally the worst time possible, so don't expect much help here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XXSFPcr7ZA

L O N G W A R

>>126571990

1. Never yellow move
2. Always use cover
3. When you blue move into a pod, retreat backward to break los
4. overwatch trap

>>126571990
You can lose a mission or three, don't sweat it. You just need to keep panic down, which is easily done with satellites, and you need to be able to eventually start winning missions again, which in the worst case can be bootstrapped with shivs.

>>126572510
>13.3 rocket scatter

your point?

>>126572510

thats xcom baby

>>126572558
>1. Never yellow move
>2. Always use cover
wrong

yellow moving into a space where the soldier can't be seen is ok I refuse to use the meme phrase and it's metter to rush a guy into an ayy's face for a 100% shot than it is to pink from a potentially long way away, since full cover can be pretty fucking sparse on most maps

>>126572625
>You can lose a mission or three,
no you can't because they raise panic to do so. it's also the main focus of the game so desu if you're losing tactical missions, you're losing the game in general. the strategy layer is just a vessel for getting more tactical segments

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>Faggot drops onto the roof
>Blow his ass right off
Fuck thinmints.

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>>126570879
thanks for this desu senpai £26 is pretty nice

>>126572510
>13.3 tile scatter
lucky he didn't kill any of his squadmates

>>126572852

99% of the time you want to stick to my advice.

>>126571990
On the strategic side, everything should be geared towards getting satellites. That means always going for rewards that give engineers. Always. At all times. You need to be pumping out satellites and the sat control buildings as fast as possible. If you have to sell loot on the gray market to do it, then go for it. Satelites are the only consistent way to manage panic, so pump out as many as you can for your sat limit and then launch them at the end of the month on countries that are maxed on panic. For research go for lasers then carapace.

As far as the tactical game goes, make sure to move one person and then have everyone follow directly behind them (congo line). This is too make sure that you only activate pods with your first soldier and have everyone else ready to react. Overwatch when no aliens are activate. Abuse explosives as much as you need to to keep people alive. Half cover is only for hunkering or getting flank shots on the only remaining active alien. Even then its risky. Stick to high cover at all times. Train up a sniper as soon as possible. They suck in the beginning but ramp up to insane 100% accurate death machines. Meld is nice, but never blindly rush towards it. You can replace troops, but you really can't afford to drop missions.

>>126572625
So definitely start again because I can't even use Shivs, if they are the robots?

>>126572558
Thank you for the help. Will try again tomorrow as I have a week before work again

>>126572852
>no you can't because they raise panic to do so
me: you can take a hit or two
you: no you can't because it lowers your soldier's HP!!!

I'm telling him that he can lose a mission and win the game. He can lose a couple missions even. If the tactical layer isn't working, there's plenty of time to learn from mistakes, retry, build the shivs, whatever.

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I should really stop run&gunning in uncharted territories - at least I got 5 dead ayys out of her
Fortunately the disk was a shitter and couldn't hit a flanked soldier in smoke

>>126572852
>and it's metter to rush a guy into an ayy's face for a 100% shot than it is to pink from a potentially long way away, since full cover can be pretty fucking sparse on most maps
I meant "it's better" and I feel I should explain further -- it's better to rush a guy and leave him in the open if he's guaranteed a kill shot (especially flanking shots) rather than taking a lower chance shot from a safe spot that will be hampered by long range or enemy cover. moving into spots shielded from view of other enemies to make said shots is as good as if not better than using the conventional cover mechanics

>>126573069
in vanilla you don't need more than the first couple missions to be engineer rewards. in fact, I'd say go for the first engineer set, then for money. taking the europe bonus and building workshops is more consistent than hoping you get lots of abductions to get more engineers, and the money seems to generally outpace the cost of satellites more than getting engineers to reduce the price

>>126573203
literally you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRd20xaoChM&t=7m12s

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>>126572887
>This
I am off to a fucking amazing start.

>>126574139
>Having the VIP by the door
That's not how you break LOS.

>>126574214
has anyone ever seen a shot on a VIP miss?
it doesn't matter how far or what cover bonuses they have if they get shot at they're done
but yes keep them out of fire is the best and as far as I know the only strat

>>126574359
I think I have, but to be fair they usually only shoot at the VIP if they have really good shots on him.

>>126574214
I kind of wasn't expecting the thinmint to suddenly appear in the door flanking my newbie, kill him, have my heavy panic, who then shoots the vip

>>126574456

which is always

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>>126573796
>literally you:
wow posting that pretend-retard sure rekt me, friend
I will make sure not to argue with you in the future

>>126574508
I would shoot him too if I had to listen to his Proper... Legal... Representation!, and then blame it on "panic"

>>126569624

LONDON
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O
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>>126574359
>has anyone ever seen a shot on a VIP miss?
I think once ever but he had Dense Smoke on him

I think it's just that, like, when have you ever seen a thin mint miss, VIPs don't appear around any enemies BUT thin mints, so how will a VIP ever not get hit?

I'm sure if they were around floaters or whatever it would be a much better time with a lot more harrowing close calls for the VIP, but they decided to make it crit mints only

that said, LW makes VIPs and other civilians have -1000 defense so there is literally no recourse against an alien having them in sight at any time.

>>126572887
>Thorne mission
>ever being on the low ground

those thimints will have 100% to hit you know

>>126575058
>LW makes VIPs and other civilians have -1000 defense so there is literally no recourse against an alien having them in sight at any time.

it's like for vanilla as well

>>126575513
nope they just have 0.
you might be thinking of the "bug" where their version of Hunker Down doesn't behave the same and instead just adds 10 defense (which is nothing, why would you even bother, it's just b8)

>>126575103
trufax
>95 Aim
>LPR
>High ground

well over 100% to hit anyone out of cover, and pretty obscene chances on anything else

>Outrider literally charges out of the downed UFO to shoot someone to death
What in the actual fuck is going on here?

>>126574814
That's why I'm not too annoyed about the lost.

>>126575103
I should have gone up, I just expected thinmints to be all fucking over the roofs and that hiding inside would be safer hiding for the asshole.

>>126576841
>I should have gone up,
be careful with this, guys like to miss overwatch shots on the thin mints that drop in, and you still have to clean up the dudes around the map so it can be annoying (or even dangerous) doubling back to find the one fucking alien left

Why are people tolerating this General being such shit lately?

>>126577108
Everybody good left.

>>126577167
YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DON'T HAVE "OPERATION" IN YOUR LIST OF OPERATION NAME GENERATOR WORDS

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I need help friends, I need to start offloading stored up materials. I have 90$ to my name, and I just unlocked laser weapons. I also need to build a sat uplink+2 sats in 6 days because generator is finishing.

>>126578390
for the lasers sell corpses

> I also need to build a sat uplink+2 sats in 6 days because generator is finishing.

you don't need to do that

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Just started playing with commander's choice, can anyone give me some tips? What do I do with soldiers that have like -3 defense?
In my opinion they are trash no matter what their others stats are, but if I dismiss them I'll get half my soldiers on the street.

>>126578390
>LW even changes some htings from "corpse" to "carcass"
jesus christ what is with those people
it's like they have some compulsion to rename fucking EVERYTHING for literally no reason. "Carcass" looks like shit in that font.

>Standing on high ground in an area I've got no target on an enemy
>They literally shoot through a bunch of thick cover and crit kill my soldier
Break LoS they said.
Christ vanilla is boring. I feel really limited in strategy.

>>126578868
I feel you, the other day I had a sectopod instant kill someone it wasn't even targeting

it missed, hit a car, and it exploded immediately, taking someone with it who wasn't even on the engine block (it was one of those small delivery trucks, apparently the ENTIRE THING explodes and not just the engine block/fuel tank like on the semi trucks)

>>126578660

Should I not venture out from my little NA bubble or something? The uplink would be to take over south america, getting power to the people, 20% bonus cash on abductions, an 10% faster research credit, and 70$ extra per month along with more chances to bring down UFOs. (Researching thin mints corpses, gonna grab a thin mint to interrogate and then head down to advanced beam).

Is it really not worth it?

>>126578868
>running a scout along the side of those huge trucks where the blue cargo walls provide half cover
>thinmint still triggers overwatch through the fucking 2 inch gap connecting the truck to the load
Nobody got hurt but I'm fucking mad that part is see through.

>>126578681

turn them into assault biotanks

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>>126579009
I hope in XCOM 2 we will have options to just shot at place X to break cover or destroy cars to blow up Ayys.

That would be awesome.

>>126580213
that would allow actual tactical flexibility and decent AI, so it will never, ever happen. Not even with mods.

>>126579136
not that early, you should have at least 8 laser cannon armed interceptors before thinking you are capable of expansion.

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>>126527521
>>Couldn't copy and past all the info in OP for some reason, more words than allowed.

You must erase the [Embed] from the pasted OP. Also..

>>126527481

Snakes for the OP?

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>>126580213
It isn't going to happens, though it looks like the grenadier gets an ability to destory cover early.

>>126580562
>not even with mods
X-COM UFO Defense HD Remake I want it

>>126580773
Its not even XCOM snek

I feel like I've made a mistake watching beagle's LW gameplay.
Vanilla feels so static and optionless early on. Even if I suck at the game, I'm tempted to play LW anyways.

>>126580623

Why? I dont have them now and I am doing just fine. If I have satelite coverage over the area, and a full rack of avengers there protecting them what difference would it make? I'd just be doubling the amount of missions I would have available to train up recruits, chances for arc throw to land etc.

>>126581030
I watched a different LW guide/LP and can't help but actually get upset at it

it looks so easy and flexible and like nothing ever goes wrong, in Vanilla, it's a fucking puzzle with one solution ever because you never have any fucking recourse against ANYTHING being left alive and active

even inactive, they can just roll up from the mist and there's nothing you can do about it since you only have Fire (topping out at 65%) and Frag Grenade and that's it

>muton elite pod activates

>all 7 overwatch shots miss

innate defense is the worst mechanic

>>126574139
AHUEHUE

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>point blank with a shotgun
>thing is larger than the camera frame

>still can't fucking hit it

this isnt even fun

whats the point of a tactics game where tactics dont matter

>>126582157
What if there was a perk that removed the innate defense penalty on aliens for overwatch shots? Would it fit better if it was built into another perk instead?

It might make overwatch builds viable into late game, except for flying enemies.

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who else plans to put eggsalt bandannas on their entire alpha squad?

>>126583884
are you being passive aggressive, or are you just an asshole? two of the misses were snipers. I only don't have Opportunist because I only got one to start with and am training up two more I got as rookies well after I was chucking plasma and making power armor.

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>grapple to something
>soldier just teleports back

>>126584134
Neither? I was just pointing out how overwatch isn't reliable even with the right perks, leading to situations like this. I don't like this happening as much as you do.

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>>126584387
At least they're not grappling out of existence.
It was funny to see, but pretty annoying for the rest of the mission.

So I started Enemy Within a few days ago, got my ass handled by the classic, started over now on normal and god it's easy as shit... What do? Should I switch to classic or start a new game on classic or something else? What are the biggest differences anyway? I only played the original (very first) xcom game. Did more or less fine there. Well, struggled to reach the end for sure, but finished it.

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>>126584620
You think that's bad?

>terror mission
>it's the L shaped 2 collapsed bridge map
>kill ayys easily with my sniper in arch armor
>decide to fly up and toss a scaner near 2 trucks
>my sniper decides to take a shortcut trough the "red zone" with over half fuel
>instantly dies

And that's how i lost my Colonel sniper on ironman.

>>126584495
I think its a cool perk idea, maybe not the whole defense bonus as that sounds insane.
But does it really matter?
In the end we would still have people posting 'X perk took away their defense and I still missed!!'

>>126574359
they have -1000 defense

>>126583780
>whats the point of a tactics game where tactics dont matter

that's why you're so bad at it, probably.

>>126583884
Maybe add it onto the MEC's Automated Thread Assessment, I would probably try it on a guardian then.

>>126580213
They've demonstrated that you have options to shoot at explosive items, like the gas station pumps, outdoor gas containers, and explosive barrels that do destruction like a grenade around the object and the floor above.

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>>126584892
>What are the biggest differences anyway?
The biggest things I can think of are that enemies get a bonus to aim, hit points, and critical chance.

Check this page for all the quirks.

http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/Game_difficulty_%28XCOM:_Enemy_Unknown%29

>>126585417
>shoot something point blank
>miss


no amount of LE GIT GUD can overcome the RNG

>>126581054

Anyone got any reasons against expanding to take over south america by the third month in long war?

>>126586373
Was the shot 100% No? Then you shouldn't have expected it to be a guaranteed hit.

>>126583780
XCOM:EW adds 'armor' by making them harder to hit rather than actual damage reduction, just think of it as 10% chance for the attack to glance off rather than 10% chance for him to point his gun at the sky before shooting like the game depicts.

>>126586623
>XCOM:EW adds 'armor' by making them harder to hit rather than actual damage reduction

what the fuck are you on about?

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>>126586748
Sectopods automatically get 30 defense despite not being capable of taking cover, which I would like to imagine represents it having tough armor rather than the game suggesting such a mech would have any capability to dodge a shot aimed at it.

>>126586992

the 30 defense isn't a change, that's in base EU. EW grants sectopods the Reinforced Armour perk which gives 50% actual damage reduction

>>126586605
That's the problem. There's no way to get 100% shots without tons of RNG through NCE and/or random stat growth.

It's literally just all down to dice rolls.

>>126586992
>>126586623
>I-It's armor! and totally not at all that they're just magically hard to hit and your soldiers point their guns to the sky for no reason despite being at point blank with a shotgun
Then why doesn't it just reduce damage? They even get a damage reduction perk in EW compared to EU where it's just -30 to all incoming fire to even hit. There's also already a perk to negate critical hits, which is basically the same concept (you can't crit it and get lethal blows off the bat because there's armor to fuck up first)