How do you make a black character without making him stereotypical

>>360975039
Write them as a normal person but black

not stealing all the time

How do you make a white character without making him stereotypical nor bland?
any examples?

>>360975165
Fpbp

>>360975039
Donkey Kong

>>360975039
TWD's Lee

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>>360975039
perfect example right here
his character is not defined by him being black, this role could be filled by any colored skin.
He is just a cool space cowboy/bounty hunter

>>360975221

He never steals or acts like a nigger. At the very end of the game, you find out he's been stealing from everyone else the whole game in a myriad of ways, from directly pickpocketing to taking things and saying they must have got lost to robbing people that you killed instead of giving you your rightful loot to running a ponzi scheme. He has no regrets. When you kill him, his mom cries on twitter about how he dindu nuffin and he was a good boy trying to get his life back on track.

>>360975039
Keep race foremost in mind and try your hardest to counter every single racial stereotype through characterization. Do method exercises like picking cotton for 8 hours a day to get into the mindset of a black person.

>>360975039
>How do you make a black character without making him stereotypical nor bland?
>any examples?
By making the game in a time period where racial tension and the right wing aren't on the rise. There's literally no problem with the current games who have black protagonists and everyone would agree on that if those game's would have been made 10 years earlier.
But since it is 2016 shitting on any game with a black MC is mandatory.

>>360975039
Blade

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>>360975379

Design the character around a white character.

At the very last minute switch out the model of a black guy.

>>360975283
It's impossible. White skin is just boring and it bleeds into every other part of a person. That's why the expression "white bread" means bland and boring.

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just make it believable
pic related

>b-but muh stereotypes
stereotypes develop for a reason, and usually provide a pretty accurate generalisation of the subject at hand
trying to avoid them means trying to avoid reality itself, which usually results in grotesque or inconsistent characters

redguard

>inb4 not of african ethnicity
>inb4 not human

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>>360975678
GOTTA CHECK YOU WHITE BREAD!

>>360975678
White bread tastes fucking awesome though, obviously not as healthy as alternatives, but that shit is great

>>360976406
rye bread is way tastier

who fucking cares.
>>>/reddit/

>>360976406
>>360976479
G A R L I C B R E A D

>>360975039
>Carlton level
>It's Not Unusual starts playing

Copy any black character created by Valve.
They´re all good guys without flaws though.

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>>360976009
Franklin > C.J.

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>>360975039

>>360975165
But isn't that a little bit unrealistic?

>>360975039
Django

Was gonna say the nigger from XIII but I forgot they made his weapons guns lmao

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Hello

>>360975397
>literally starts in the back of a police car after being arrested for murder
ye

>>360977913
Does he side grip them?

Well start off by getting a good writer who wants to write a black character well and not some trust-fund baby who thinks he's obligated to do it out of their white guilt.
That's a good start.

>>360977039
Franklin the guy with zero flaws, acts as the reasonable member of the trio. Purposefully made the least unlikeable person in the game.
Hes the epitome of modern black character writing in games/movies.

I know it's an unpopular opinion here by people who haven't played it, but Marcus from Watch Dogs 2 is about the closest thing to a realistic, non-obnoxious black person I've seen in a video game.

>>360977696

Not really, no. Not all blacks are walking stereotypes, you know.

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>>360975573
this

>>360979465
I've only seen a few videos of WD2 but the social commentary it tries to pull off is ham-fisted as fuck.

>"I hate being the only black guy working at this company. Everyone looks at me like I'm a criminal."
>"Anyway about those crimes we're gonna commit."

>>360978989
Also, isn't he basically the opposite of CJ? Unless, I blatantly missed the point of his character.

>>360977039
Franklin is a bitch ass nigga.
Also, nigga > dog.

>>360975039
You just posted it, OP.
It's Carlton.

Lee Everett. I guess you could say he's stereotyped because he is a convicted criminal, but he was also a fucking history professor at a university and came from a well off family (I'm guessing here, based on the fact they own a pharmacy). Maybe it's because you play as him, but I think Lee was my favorite character in both seasons of TWD.

>>360980032
>It's Carlton.
No 'E'.

>>360975678
Would you rather eat black bread?

>>360980120
Does he have any character traits a middle class university educated white guy wouldnt have?

>>360979992
They're really similar, but CJ ends up caring more about family and friends. Franklin winds up basically alone because he prioritizes material wealth. CJ changes his attitude because he learns from losing friends and family, whereas Franklin retreats deeper into his new career as a professional criminal as an escape from his friends and family.

>>360979967

After playing the full game, I can tell you that there are examples on both sides of the political spectrum that the game mocks, and I'd say it leans more center-right than SJW left.

As for that example, that's the only time really where a character bitches about "woe is me I'm black and underrepresented", and it's not even the main character, AND in the very next mission he gets murdered by, surprise, other minorities.

>>360980169
Can you make me a sandwich?

>>360980553
What are "black traits"? That's the problem with making black/minority characters. If it has common traits associated with the race, then it's a stereotype or caricature. If the person doesn't have any common traits with the race, then it's just a white person with a different skin tone. You can't have it both ways.

>>360980759
What about the villain who's basically an SJW wet dream?

>>360980797
NOUGH

Even if your black character exist in a world not based on Earth, in a land where no one would have any sort of racial tension, and the character himself is some super rich noble, be sure to include some hamfisted backstory in which he was looked won on for being black.

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>>360980120

PUT THE GUN DOWN, BITCH!

>mfw

>>360975283
The same way you make any other character. Include some details about how their race/culture shaped them. Maybe the white character feels uncomfortable with casual sex because they grew up as a protestant christian. Maybe the white character feels uncomfortable talking about race because they were raised being told to not be racist at all costs. Maybe they like Irish food a lot because they're great-grandfather was supposedly from Ireland and they want to cling to the idea of some kind of heritage. Those traits don't define the character, but they provide opportunities for the character to demonstrate how they think/act. What happens when someone says something offensive to them? How strongly do they cling to their beliefs in the face of argument? How do they act when forced to give up something of sentimental value?

Good characterization comes from the "how" and "why" they do anything, rather than "what" they are. A character that's an alien with magic powers is still going to be super fucking boring if you can't relay why they act a certain way.

>>360981056
Let me tell you boys something about women
something about women

>>360981015

It's... a villain? I'm not sure how to portray something as negative worse than making them the literal bad guy. I'm assuming you're talking about fat dyke, in which case it's also worth adding that she's portrayed as a bumbling idiot who gets disproportionately upset to the point where it's childlike if things don't go her way.

Lando Griffin
Garcian Smith
Shinobu
Cole Train
Motorcity Bangers
Groovy Gregory

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>>360975039
Like this.

>>360980980
>If the person doesn't have any common traits with the race, then it's just a white person with a different skin tone.

There are tons of people like that in real life, who are called stuff like oreos/coconuts/bananas,etc. People don't have to live up to their race's stereotypes to officially be that race.