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haha
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>nintendo
>in charge of not censoring things and treating their audience like adults
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>>324780387
Thankfully I'll never pay for that game.
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>Ninten[redacted]
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>>324780678
It's okay, it's not censorship when everyone is okay with it.
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>>324780387
>Nintendo butchers another game I'm now not going to buy
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>make a thinly veiled waifu simulator with tits out the ass and incest
>censor it anyway
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Well, glad I won't be bothering with Nintendo any more. If they just want kids to play their games, then there is no point in me buying their systems.
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>>324780387
wew
Not going to buy it.
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Let me guess, it's the "make the 'lesbian' see men as women so she falls in love with a man" thing?
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>>324781050
Yep, has been completely removed
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>>324780387
Wait, wasn't that the thing that one "tranny" on tumblr/twitter mistranslated in some way, then spammed it everywhere blowing it out of proportions? Then it later got debunked with them being btfo?

I was honestly gonna buy this game originally, but now it's a no go.
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tbqh soleil's support story is fucking dumb as shit, even for japanese standards.

it's good that they are changing it.
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>"In the version of the game that ships in the US and Europe, there is no expression which might be considered as gay conversion or drugging that occurs between characters," Nintendo said in a statement to Nintendo World Report. The company did not say exactly how it intends to alter the scene or whether it has just been removed completely.
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>>324780678
>nintendo audience
>adults
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>You literally drug someone into being of a different sexual orientation
>People are defending this

Holy fuck.

This is the very definition of male entitlement. Characters shouldn't be designed specifically with your fantasies accounted for. If the character doesn't like men then she should not be a romancable option. It's fucking disgusting that they would include a "date rape" drug to get her to like you. Anita was right.
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>>324781050
Yes.


Between them going full bore on disc locked content and amiibos, alongside censorship out the ass, I'm glad I'm not buying their products. I'd hate to validate this sort of management.
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>>324781050
Yep. It's just another case of "it's creepy so it's okay it's gone". Don't you have to go out of your way for these scenes anyway?
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>>324780387
>it's not censorship it's just localization!
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>>324781232
Here's your (You).
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>Moderates will continue to claim SJW's have no influence
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>>324781228
Does that really mean it's changed or is Nintendo just saying that scene was misinterpreted to begin with?
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>>324781219
Here comes the damage control
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Thank god I stopped supporting this piece of shit company over ten years ago.
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>>324781228
>no expression which might be considered as gay conversion

So they'll rewrite her to be completely straight? That'll go over well.
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>>324781187
Yes, here's our friend Andrea Ritsu that made sure to reach out to NoA about this disgusting scene.
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>>324781230
There's a lot of people over 18 who buy nintendo products.

nintendo doesn't seem to care about them unless they are 35-45 year old women buying wii fit, but they are there.
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Nintendo continues to be dead to me.

To think I almost bought a 3DS for Dragon Quest VII. I'm not taking the risk with the way they're treating everything that passes under their nose.
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>>324781298
>Here's your (You).
pic

When is this little beta bitch trend going to end?
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>>324781232
>>You literally drug someone into being of a different sexual orientation
This never happens though.
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>>324781341
They specifically denoted that it would be a change in the us and eu version of the game.
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What we need to do is take the Japaneses propaganda and send it back to where it came from.
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>>324781369
I honestly hopes this happens. The salt will be incredible.
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>>324781391
"hey girls I'm a transexual lesbian, but I don't plan on getting any surgery done. Please fellow lesbians, date me and my penis!"

Is what I hear any time this autist is brought up anywhere.
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>>324781219
Go back to tumblr, Andrea. Thanks.
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>>324781496
Yes and it's not gay to like traps either. It's 2016 people.
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>>324781163
yeah this one is more reasonable, though. you can't "cure" gay people

i get that it's "just a game" and that they "can do whatever they want," but you all have to realize that some people will be uncomfortable with a message like this, and it could accidentally hurt adolescent children's minds regarding topics like what being gay is

nintendo is still a bunch of fags though
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>>324780678
>>324780840
>>324781339


Nintendo in the 80s censored vaguely satanic games because they didn't wanted to offend the hysterical religious moms.

Nintendo in the 90s censored violent games because they didn't wanted to offend the hysterical soccer moms.

Nintendo in the 00s censored sexy games because they didn't wanted to offend the hysterical single moms.

Nintendo in the 2010s censors "problematic" games because they didn't want to offend the hysterical SJW childless cunts.


tl;dr hysterical cunts ruin vidya.
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Can Nintendo please just fucking sell off their 2nd party IP's and die off already. This shit is getting old now.
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>everyone has a modded 3ds now
>can just play the fan translation of the japanese game
>fe will sell like shit and end as a series

Top raugh
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>>324780387
there goes a sale
seriously, the pandering fanservice shit is all this game has going for it and they're taking that out too? Fuck that and fuck nintendo
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>>324781654
she wasn't gay you fag
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>>324781656
you should add examples.

Also,

>Defending censorship
>ever
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>>324781695
>I want pandering fanservice in my video games

Very brave of you to admit that you like being such a huge faggot. I salute you.
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>>324781654
No, it isn't reasonable.
Take off the mask, tumblr.
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>>324781695
Honestly, I'm not surprised seeing as it's treehouse doing the localization.

Any game they work on tends to have an extremely shitty localization.
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>>324781693
It's already going to sell weird because of the multiple versions high cost crap to get the complete story.
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>>324780838
It's more like sticking a bandaid on the originally shitty writing of this game.
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>>324781808
>Censorship in and of itself is inherently bad

When will this meme stop? It's too stupid to be a legitimate argument.
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>>324781656
>no outcry
>no outcry
>no outcry
>someone invents the word SJW
>holy fuck the world has gone to shit, we'll be slaves in chains in a few years time

All of these things are no reason to get hyped up about, neither is it censorship.

A company making a decision to market their product to a wider audience is not censorship
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>>324781838
Says the tumblrina.
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>>324781654
>you all have to realize that some people will be uncomfortable with a message like this, and it could accidentally hurt adolescent children's minds regarding topics like what being gay is

And I say to those people, they can take their real life shitty problems that they total control over somewhere else and not bring their shitty nonexistence problem into a Fantasy video game that can do whatever and be whatever the fuck it wants.
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>>324781992
Explain your ideas of beneficial censorship with supporting evidence and examples, please.
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>>324781654
>implying anyone would be uncomfortable if they made a scene of making a straight character gay

lmao I wouldn't care and neither should gays, it's just a fucking game, stop being so insecure
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>>324781656
This, it'll pass, we'll move on.
As much as I am against censorship, the support was stupid anyways and something I don't like won't necessarily make me whine and complain and refuse to buy a game, unlike SJWs and you idiots. Censorship is bad, but small time stuff like this isn't gonna keep me from what I enjoy.
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>there are fags who updated to 10.4
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>>324782032
>A company making a decision to market their product to a wider audience is not censorship
But altering a product in order to remove scenes you don't approve of is.
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>>324781695
You weren't going to buy the game anyway since you clearly can't read.
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>>324780387
>Numerous direct translations show that she was never a lesbian in the first place
>Game only pairs her with guys
>They make up random details just to make it sound worse then it is.

How does this keep happening? Do gaming journalist just browse outdated tumblr posts or something?

Laughing at anyone who actually thinks censorship is happening.
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>>324781992

Censorship in and of itself IS INHERENTLY BAD.
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>>324780387
Not like anyone in their right mind would marry her in the first place.
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>>324781656
I remember Nintendo censoring the original mortal kombat on the SNES, from blood to fatalities, I believe the Genesis/Megadrive version had it all.
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>>324781654
>but you all have to realize that some people will be uncomfortable with a message like this

The line needs to be drawn before some people's feelings to see where things needs to be changed.

Does it risk extreme backlash? Okay, change it a little because that could seriously harm your reputation and sales. Does it only make some sensitive fuckers uncomfortable? Don't change that shit.
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>>324781428

Here's your (You)
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its called localization faggots. get used to it.
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>>324781695
>there goes a sale
>posts Xenoblade
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>>324781819
Here's the thing: They got power and influence because you bitched about them and gave them attention. This remember when a SJW complained about this scene and you raised a stink and brought attention to it. So now it's getting changed.

And then you have the stupidity to point to this and say "This is why we shouldn't ignore SJWs!". You are playing right into their hands.
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>>324781656
this
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>>324780387
the ultimate proof "journalist" write their articles on 4chan before sending them to their boss. it's word for word the daily dose of the week.
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>>324782349
>people will claim Fates situation is localization but then in the same breath say this is censorship.
Why is everyone stupid but me?
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Let's face it; most people here wanted it to be censored anyway.
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>>324781992
Kim Jong Un is that you?
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What is censorship
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>>324782118
I updated my emunand to 10.4, because I didn't want to look for Firmware spoof'd versions of newer CIAs.
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>>324782032
>no outcry

Fucking millenial cunt. Just because you were still shitting in your pants and crying for a juice box doesn't mean shit didn't happen.
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I seriously don't know why I haven't sold my Wii-U and 3DS by now. Haven't bought a game for either of them in while, and come to think of it, I don't think I've even turned either on in months.

Guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow.
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>Y-you'll see gaiz! Based treehouse will deliver!
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>>324782418
They were literally already ingrained in game journalism sites before this.
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NOA does it again!
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>>324782032
>neither is it censorship

It is by every definition of the word. Please don't tell me you're one of those "if it's not by the government then it's not censorship". Even tumblrinas should be able to get that through their fucking head, what with the bitch fit they threw over the lesbians being removed from that cartoon.
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>>324782349
Why can't people just translate shit anymore? It seems like it would take less effort
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>>324782320
Just like people who vape, all you are doing is announcing how much cock you like to suck

You aren't 'winning' anything by littering /v/ with your pointless passive aggressive posts
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>>324782418
>They got power and influence because you bitched
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>>324782418
Your dumbass does realize that every fucking journo was going to push SJW retards whether or not they are being attacked right?
Wu is literally a popular face because she sockpuppeted her own trolls
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>>324780387
I don't understand why people are getting all hot and bothered by this, the support is straight up fucking stupid and I'm incredibly glad its being changed. It's so weird and nonsensical that I really want someone to explain to me why they don't like this being changed. So if I understand right, you drug Soliel into liking you, because she now sees you as a girl, and now is willing to marry you for your looks because she's a lesbo, correct me if I'm wrong. So why is this something that shouldn't be changed? This incredibly awkward weebish support is being changed into something that actually makes sense, and doesn't involve something retarded and shallow like tricking and drugging her into liking you.

Please just explain to me why people want this to not be changed, I don't get why anyone thinks this support isn't retarded. Please don't just say censoring is bad, even when it comes to something that's fucking stupid like this, and no I'm not censor damage controlling either, I haven't bought any of Nintendo's new games since the new Kirby and I'm skeptical of getting this one. I just legitimately think anything would be better then how this support currently is.
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>>324782576
By you bitching at them. I was just giving you the latest example.
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>>324781819
>muh evil tumblr
>but facebook is a church of well balanced people because I use it!
literally every fucking time.
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>>324782565
>Based treehouse
literally no one actually ever says this

Treehouse is factually shit. It's a shame they'll never scrap the whole group and hire some actually professional people
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>>324782269
people feeling uncomfortable generally leads to said backlash
>>324782090
you're awesome, some people just suck though, and you have to work around it to save face
>>324781793
i thought it said she was a lesbian? hm.
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>>324782032
Actually censorship bit them before. There's a reason they stopped censoring MK on the snes after the first time.
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>>324782532
Changing material from the source in a way that clashes with the original material.
Localization may change a few things, but the material and makers vision is kept mostly intact
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>>324782032

>A company making a decision to market their product to a wider audience is not censorship

That's the reason they released for the censorship, dumbass. It's still censorship.
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>>324782418
>...they got power and influence because you bitched...
Wait, there are actually people retarded enough to believe this? Didn't the ties in the industry that were proven again and again by gamergaters not enough of a wakeup call?
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Get mad nerds
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Can't unsee.
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>>324782418
>he fell for it
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>>324782674
/v/ thinks market forces & logic are equivalent to censorship, don't think too hard about it
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>>324782824
>paying 80 dollars and most likely another 40 for what should be one game

I'm just disappointed, son.
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Gonna buy it anyway, since they didnt remove the feature to pet my waifu.
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>>324782689
These people were working at these sites before gamergate and before fucking anita's stupid kickstarter. You are literally blaming /v/ for people getting hired several years ago.

>>324782705
They didn't say anything about facebook, how did you make this mental leap?
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>>324780387
Good thing I don't care since Fates looks like hot garbage. Just like Awakening, zero effort has been put into the actual gameplay, and 100% is put into shitty my first waifu simulator.

I miss old FE. It used to be a strategy game that happened to have an anime artstyle. Now it's an anime game with strategy elements carelessly tacked on.
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>>324782824
>I'm pissing away an extra 20 dollars for nothing
Ok?
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>>324780387
Welp, there goes any serious discussion to be had about the game for a month after release. At least on /v/. What else can be expected from a board that at this point prides itself on shitposting and making everything seem like the world is ending?

That being said, Fire Emblem Fates will indeed sell less copies now because more people have access to the ability to pirate 3DS games than before, and with news like this, more people will do it and use said event to justify what they do. Now for the inevitable return to being a Japanese exclusive franchise, or better yet, the death of it.
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>>324781695
you were never going to buy anything you beta faggot
you just bitch
bitch about the waifus
bitch about the censorship of said waifus
bitch about tumblr
bitch about 4chan
you're just a bitch, and you'll still be one until the day you die, fucking useless piece of shit
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>>324781654
>You can't "cure" gay people
Seeing how its a mental disease I disagree. In fact, I would barely call it a disease, its just a fetish that they take too seriously. Thats why they act hyper sexual all the time, they are just acting on a fetish. Everyone is straight, they just don't know it.
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>>324782824
Enjoy your memes and cut/changed content, anon. You sure showed us!
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>>324782630
>>324782660
>>324782576
>>324782801
>>324782936
This is really happening.
You really are all this fucking retarded.
I'm fucking done. Go ahead and feed them forever, and keep acting surprised when they get more influence and status.

You've already lost if this is what you truly believe.
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Serious question, has there been any confirmed censorship on Fates yet?

OP's shit doesn't count because it's factually wrong on literally every front.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVFPheRegw

Everybody should watch this video before posting.
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>>324782418
>They got power and influence because you bitched about them and gave them attention.

This is exactly what SJW's say when we criticize terrorist groups and radical Muslims.

Awful argument by the way. Acknowledging wrongdoings is a prerequisite for stopping them shithead.
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IT'S JUST ONE FUCKING SCENE
HOLY SHIT
WHAT'S-HER-FACE (INIGA?) IS A SHIT CHARACTER ANYWAYS
IF YOU CARE FOR HER SUPPORTS YOU ARE LITERALLY A SUBHUMAN
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>>324781391

>this ugly piece of shit will hang himself in the next four years
>the game he ruined will stay ruined until the end of time

le if you ignore them they'll go away XD
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What got removed, a gay romance?
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Learn the difference between censorship and localization you idiots
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>>324782728
>people feeling uncomfortable generally leads to said backlash

Like stubbing your toe would lead to you punching someone in the face. I'm talking a huge backlash, not some fucking twitter spam organized by tumblr.
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>>324780387

Damned if they do damned if they don't, seemingly
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>>324782824
>get mad
>got the entire game plus all DLC (about 120$) for free and months ahead of time
Buykeks, when will they learn.
I could spoil you the entire game right now, but the story is so fucking shit you'd suffer more going through it yourself.
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>>324782032
>no outcry

Underaged libcuck Social Justice Weenie detected.I remember there was a shitstorm during the whole Mortal Kombat is too violent shit, even top tier liberal politicians like Tipper Gore and Bill Clinton joined in. Maybe slick Willie was buttmad his game got shitcanned.
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Do you think NOA will remove gay marriages?
It's the one thing they can't really escape from.
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>BAWW WHY WON'T IT LET ME FUCK LESBIANS
>WHAT ABOUT MY DOMINANT LESBIAN WAIFU WHO WILL PEG ME? ;_;

Faggots, the lot of you.
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>>324783080

>It's our fault

Literally a radical Muslim argument, I cannot believe this shit.

Good riddance fuckface, all you did was sit and make shitty points anyway.
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>>324783010
kill yourself my man
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>>324782418
Gr8 b8.

check my 8
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>Amiibos are going to push nintendo to do lots of disc locked content and will have negative repurcussions
FUCK OFF IT'LL ONLY BE COSMETICS!
>Nintendo isn't going to stop censoring games in localization
FUCK OFF THEY NEVER CENSORED ANYTHING IT IS JUST LOCALIZATION

You people wouldn't tolerate this from most other companies.
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>>324780678
>fantasy about drugging a lesbian
>adult
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>>324780387
Honestly, I don't really care. I just want to play a Fire Emblem game.
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>>324782674
So you like companies telling you that you cannot handle certain material so it needs to be removed? Nintendo is basically saying that the West cannot handle this type of shit so they are changing it, deciding for everyone who was interested in the game that they are not allowed to see it.

Do you like when companies treat you like a moron? Changing for the sake of change is and has always will be retarded. This is why everyone thinks the west are a bunch of fucking morons.

>slaughter of millions of people and extreme violence in general? Sign me up!

>Anything at all pertaining to anything sexual or romantic that maybe considered "weird" or "creepy"? Nah, change it I don't want to see it, think of the children.
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>>324782576
Yup. The only thing the whole GG thing taught me is how much of them are actually crazy left wing lunatics who argue against anything even remotely sexy/sexual under the guise of games need to grow up etc. It's part of the reason why I can't stomach most of these fuckers now because they need to remind everyone about how much of a adult they are.
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>>324783038
>>324783160
Someone kill this meme, please.
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>>324783160
I think NoA needs to learn the difference.
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>>324783080
>It's your fault!
>Actually they were already in these positions before any of this st-
>YOU RETARD!

Swell, someone who can't handle being wrong.
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>>324783273
seems you were FIVE off
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>>324783249
It wasn't about fucking lesbians, it was about "curing" a lesbian of her homosexuality
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>>324783123

Who cares if it's just one scene, dickhead? This shouldn't be allowed at all
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Neo-Nintendo is real
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>>324783091
Nobody will watch it because the censorship meme is funnier to neo-/v/
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>>324781654
>game where you literally murder people

>"uhh yeah we need to not teach children magic potions can't make you horny! thats the real problem!"

Holy fucking shit you realize you're a sexual puritan right?
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You can bet Tharja's ass that this game will get censored, Treehouse cannot handle lewd of any kind
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>>324783160

Not before you, my mentally challenged nignog,
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>>324783080
People like you justify eugenics.
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Screw this whole "localization" pc bullshit culture we're stuck with. Time to go learn moon.
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>>324782983
>>324782925
>>324783063
>>324783212

>implying I'm not selling them for $120 each 8 years from now
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What happened to this game being about strategy and war?
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>>324780387
It's not censorship, it's localization.

In this case it's the same thing as censorship, but I like it, so it's not censorship.
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>>324783425
They were in those positions, but you gave them influence
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>>324783504
>I have no idea what actually happens in the game and am just spewing the latest misinformed bullshit

Lol
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>>324780387
>people are still mad over this
This is Tharja's re-covered ass all over again.
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>>324783172
The actual solution is don't let garbage LN authors write and fill games with their diarrhoea in the first place.
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>>324781656
>no outcry
nigger censoring MK on snes while genesis allowed everything is when Nintendo got labeled as the kiddie company
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>>324780387
Can't really blame them, honestly. The SJW crowd is bigger, more vocal, and has more sympathy than their detractors, particularly in gaming press. Not censoring the game would have lead to headlines of "Nintendo supports homophobia and date rape", while censoring it just leads to "Nintendo censors a thing, but it was a really bad thing!" and they save face.

I find it funny that people are honestly shocked that a gigantic public company cares more about sales than the integrity of it's IP's.
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>>324783451
DO YOU HONESTLY GIVE A SHIT OR ARE YOU GOING TO USE A SLIPPERY SLOPE
WHAT ABOUT THE G A M E
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Can I get some (You)s?
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>>324782728
>i thought it said she was a lesbian? hm.
you should probably look into things a bit more before engaging in conversation about them. That said your general point stands regardless.

I'll give you a brief run-down anyways - the chick always got nervous/faint around "cute girls". Half the cast being female and cute meant this was a bit of a problem on the battlefield so the mc drugs her to make her see him as a woman so they can work on her fear and she gets over said fear and falls in love with the mc in the process because animeme love interests. She's not gay and can't even get with any other girls, all her S rank supports being with guys - all of them.
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>>324783128
You could drug people into changing sexuality. So, lesbians would see men as women and would be cool having sex and kids. Same with making straight dudes seeing dudes as women and having sex with them.

FANTAAAAAAAAAAASY!
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>>324780387
its a good thing the fan translation patch won't have any censorship
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>>324781654
>you can't "cure" gay people
I don't think you realize how delicate the human mind is. You can completely change someone with very little effort, so "curing" a gay person isn't out of the question at all.
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>>324783516
>go to beach
>suddenly every girl in a bikini has a curtain in front of them
Must suck being an amerifat
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>>324783483

But that video confirms it was censored for no reason.

it helps the censorship "meme".
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>>324781656
You mean like all the hysterics in this thread?
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>>324783602

>It's fine because censorship happened before

Go jump in the lake.
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>>324783123
>It's just one chapter in this book, who cares?
>it's just a few words in this song, who cares?
>it's just a few posts in this thread, who cares?
>it's just a few strokes on this painting, who cares?
>it's just a few pixels on this image, who cares?
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>>324783659
and (You)
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>>324783516
I swear to god the curtain makes it look more lewd because you don't actually see what kind of bikini it could be. I could be a fucking string for all you know unless you looked it up online prior.
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>>324783659
Where you from buddy?
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>>324783593
They literally already had the influence. Being in those positions, having control of media platforms, that's the influence. Jesus, it's like you think /v/ expressly gave them permission to do the jobs they had already been doing for years.
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>>324781230
this guy gets it. you manchildren need to let go.
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>>324782206
If they don't approve of scenes in their product its their choice to remove it
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>>324780387
Already downgraded and played it. It's pretty shit regardless of what gets censored. At this point I'd rather the series just die.
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>>324781656
>tl;dr hysterical cunts ruin everything

FTFY. This has been a problem since before vidya.
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>>324783598
Are you describing yourself? Because the only fucking lesbian in the entire game is NotTharja. Soleil is Inigo's daughter, and shares his traits. If you actually fucking played the game or the one before it, you'd know what his defining trait is.
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>>324783645

There's a difference between a slippery slope and being completely prohibitive of bullshit, period
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>>324783249

She wasn't a lesbian though.
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>still being hyped after learning Fates is nothing but a otome game pandering to women.
Of course they will censor it, but I'll not buy it.
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>>324783787
>>it's just a few posts in this thread, who cares?
this is not helping your case
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>>324783593
>They were in a position where they had influence
>But YOU gave them that influence
You should get a prize for these gymnastics.
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Remember guys, it's only censorship if SJWs like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm2403n3R7Q
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>>324783714
That's why "gay conversion therapy" has such a good history. It's so easy.
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>>324783602
Are you seriously supporting covering Tharja's ass?
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>>324783326
No I just think the support is stupid and it shouldn't have been like the way it was in the first place. If I ever end up buying this game and doing the support I'll thank NoA for changing it into something that's not retarded to me, maybe they're doing a good job if I as a general american planning on buying this game finds a localization change to be make more sense and be better then the original.
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>>324782257
Read what you just said. And it was blood to sweat
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>>324783123
>He thinks it'll just be one scene
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>>324783932
why does that even matter? you can find the image online
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>>324780387

>the idiot was proven numerous times to be wrong in their translation and misread the scene
>nintendo removes it anyway to avoid backlash

sounds about right.
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Reminder that Nintendo actually views "offensive" content as bugs, Check an old Nintendo Power issue that talks about localization.

Censorship is "fixing bugs" to these fucking people.
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>girl is shy around men
>lets give her a potion that make her see men as women so she's more comfortable around men
>this mean she's a dyke
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>it's another GamerGate thread

Fucking die.

>changing something = censorship

If anything, it's only being made out to be censorship with phrasing like "removed" to appeal to the "SJW" onlookers when really it's just making entirely new content.

Censorship is FemCorrin's new armor in Smash 4.

This isn't censorship. It's quality control. Be happy they're trying to fix this game's shitty writing.
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>>324783913
This. Call me when they stop letting you create a self-insert Mary Sue so you can marry your non-existent waifu and start making games like FE7 or FE9 again.
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>>324780387
It doesn't matter, the people offended by it AND the "le censorship is the devil" idiots will buy it anyway

This is why I avoid weeb games
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>>324783249
That's the complete opposite. The woman is a lesbian and you can CURE HER of her lesbianism by making her see biological men as women. In short, an illusion. With drugs.

So Treehouse has done something with the scene, we don't know if it's been removed or altered. All we know is, it's likely people had a fucking fit at the idea that you can "cure" homosexuality. As in Japan, if you're 18+ and a lesbian, you're scum. If you're under 18, you're good.
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>>324783714
Oh, I guess we can cure homophobia then.
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>>324783260
exactly how is he wrong my fellow liberal arts student?

In some cases it is a trauma, given that is like a mental wound, it can be treated.

Liberals however think it is better to push this lifestyle (same with people with gender disorder) than to lend them a hand. It is like telling a cripple that he is super cool and it is people who should check their biped privilege rather than helping him walk again.

Then again at the end of the day gays are like 1% or less of the world population at BEST. Liberals are hypocrites hiding using DIVERSITY as their shield to gain power.
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>>324783593
Why are you trying to go so far to justify being a lazy pushover?
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Based Treehouse fixing Fate's shit tier writing. Hopefully they remove Pieri and fix Nohr's atrocious storyline. The writing in this is the WORST in the entire series. How bad is that? Think about it, this Fire Emblem game is the worst written Fire Emblem game. I want you to just imagine how awful that is.
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>>324782032
>no outcry
Yeah man, everybody listen to children. Videogames are the latest culture these vile faggots have tried to shoehorn themselves.

You know what are they aiming for now? tabletop games. Now that bruva alfabusa guy has made 40k blip on the youtube radar they decided that it's what they need to shit up next.
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>>324784138
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
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>>324784138
dumb iphone poster
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>>324780387
>/v/ has been discussing this all day
>Already a slow thread somewhere else
>Now this thread is moving lightning fast
What sort of shit posting is this? Most people wanted that support removed and changed anyway.
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>>324783924

Looks like they censored it for being too lewd, not the gay stuff.

But SJWs need to feel oppressed.
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Think about it this way lads. Nintendo never intended to offend or make anyone feel uncomfortable while playing this game. This probably wasn't a big deal in Japan, but apparently not here in the west. By removing it they are using their artistic freedom to fit cultural sensitivities and bring the product they intended to make in the first place. Let's say culture A sees the color red as the color of happiness, but culture B relates it to sadness. You want both cultures to feel happy, so you give color red to culture A and change color for culture B.

Call it self-censorship if you want, but they're within their right to do so.
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>>324783821
They approved of them in japan, but removing that for the US audience. that's censorship. Sorry, but selective alteration of previously produced content is censorship.
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>>324783795
You talkin' to (me)?
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>>324782032
you need to be 18 or more to post here kiddo.

"Nintendo is for kids" statement started because of nintendo constant fear to have non-kid oriented games on their consoles since the fucking SNES.
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>>324784116

Americans are retarded, Anon.
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>>324784138
Kill yourself you worthless piece of garbage.
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>>324780678

I can't say I can blame NoA considering how shitty the censorship of everything else is in America.

Like, I can't even hear the word pussy on tv when its used in a sexual context.

Thanks for treating us like kids America.
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>>324781369

I think in the original scene she's gay but she gets turned straight by the almighty power of D. So they'll rewrite it so she remains gay and everyone is okay with it.
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>>324781654
>NO VIOLENT GAMES ALLOWED, THINK OF THE CONFUSED CHILDREN
>NO SEXUAL CONTENT ALLOWED, THINK OF THE CONFUSED CHILDREN
>NO RACIST GAMES ALLOWED, THINK OF THE CONFUSED CHILDREN

Congratulations, you have the thought process of a bitter soccer mom. Good news: it's not too late to kill yourself.
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They're gonna remove every bit of fanservice and all of the incesty romances.

I'm glad we're living in an age where sin isn't tolerated.
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>>324784431
I guess game patches and HD updates are censorship then.
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>>324784431
>movie has deleted scene in china
>removed in USA
>"CENSORSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!"
(u)
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>>324783010
lol
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https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/690264632066355200
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>>324784431
>Sorry, but selective alteration of previously produced content is censorship.
also content that hasn't been produced yet
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>In Japan, homosexuality in women is seen as something scummy, disgusting and abhorrent, bringing shame on your family and their ancestors if you're 18 or older and still like smashing clams together.
>So they put in an ability to cure a woman of her lesbianism, but instead of outright fixing it, making it so she sees men as women instead.

>In the West, homosexuality is more normal than normal. Having the idea that homosexuality is something you'd want to change is scummy, disgusting and abhorrent.
>So this scene needs to be changed. There can be no hint that homosexuality can be cured, but also no hint that homosexuality is a mental illness.


Why are we surprised at this point? It seems to be, literally, location changes. It's the same shit, same bollocks, but we can't change it.
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>>324784324
It doesn't matter what the game in question is, nor what the change is. If there is any form of change during localization for any game, /v/ will sperg the fuck out and have about 500 shitpost-filled threads about it. Guaranteed.
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>>324784594
SHE STRIKES AGAIN
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>>324784583
So triggered you can't even argue.
Why do you tumblrites still come here?
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At least this series will die now so IS can go back to making Advance Wars
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Do we actually know what exactly was changed?

I remember hearing that the "gay conversion therapy" stuff was a lie, so it's possible they din't have to change much.

Though knowing Nintendo ...
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>>324781656
It was not as large scale as this and you know it

Nintendo censored more things this decade around than all others
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>>324783010
sounds like someone is trying to rationalize his gay "fetish"
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>>324784594

Why is she telling us that and not taking it up with the actual fucking writers of the game in Japan?
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>>324781232

Holy fuck, there's literally nothing wrong with this. Because its a video game. That someone wanted to make this way.

This isn't real life. Stop being weird.

P.S. Tell you and your friends to calm down, this world is shitty enough already.
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>ISIS censors Good Gameplay in order to appeal to Otaku losers and get more sales
>This is fine
>Nintendo of America improves the low quality writing in the game to improve the over all experience for actual Fire Emblem fans
>"Fucking shitlords"
Never change neo-/v/
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>>324783260
No fuck you. Fags ruin fucking everything.
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>>324784574
If they removed scenes from a game, then yes. They would be.

Neither patches nor hd remakes tend to do either of those things.
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>>324780387
>Nintendo: We are not a kiddy company, we have hardcore games like bayononetta and xenoblade
>better censorship everything to demonstrate this point

I kinda feel bad for Ninty they got the same reputation as Disney, and people think they are evil for some reason.

I think it is funny how liberal cunts have turned ultra conservative.
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>>324781992

I don't know whats scarier, that you're joking and this is funny to you, or that you actually believe what you're saying.
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>Game has homos, lesbians, shota traps
>Oh fuck, what do I complain about now?
>Girl who sees girls other as cute marries a man
>Perfect
>The Quiet Homophobia in Fire Emblem Fates Triggered Me by Translizard2015
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>>324784268
Okay, glad you agree that it,s not censorship then, you dumbfuck

>suppression

If Bob Ross decides he want to add another tree in the foreground in his paintings, you better fuckign believe he can do it. You being a crybaby won,t change a thing
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>>324784594
Does Nintendo still pay this bitch? I'm losing respect for them by the day.
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>>324782998
t. triggered hamplanet
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>>324782378

You don't get that that was the point, do you?
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>People thought it was coming over here uncensored

The treehouse censored XBX, why would they bring this over censored-free?
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You do realise these changes are made, not about out of fear of upsetting people, but out of the fear that children will ask questions.

In the West, the idea of talking to your kids, educating them, explaining shit and downright being a good parent is gone. You bung them in front of the TV/PC/Console and tell them to get on with it. If there is content which might make little Timmy go "mommy, why are those two girls kissing?", it'll cause a hassle for the parents, meaning they don't want it in the first place.

It's why Steven Universe was censored in UK.

But that ALSO applies to content in games, except it's changed now. It's no longer about "awkward questions", but about making sure they're not asked in the first place. How? By making the idea homosexuality a thing to question a thing of the past.
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>>324784423

It actually was a pretty big deal in Japan among FE fans. Her supports are panned by most Japanese fans, at least from what I've seen on 2ch. She's basically the single worst-written character in the franchise.

Offensive or not, they're fucking terrible supports.
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>>324784324
People against this change in the past two threads haven't given a legitimate reason as to why it shouldn't be changed outside of 'it's censorship' without explaining why they think that this change in particular is bad. Faggots on /v/ just like using anything as an excuse to talk about 'censoring' and how much they hate SJWs for changing content that is just made to appeal to an audience that it's being localized for. Just typical modern /v/ at its finest, anything and everything related to a localization change will be used as cannon fodder for some peoples SJW hateboner.
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well I guess the SJWs won this one.

SJWs - 4 or 5
Everyone Else: One billion
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Anyone who didn't see this coming a mile away is stupid.

Stay mad faggots
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>>324784423
Meanwhile the manager of the localization company is unironically telling people to educate themselves on intersectionality.
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>>324784687
>Do we actually know what exactly was changed?
There's literally no proof that anything was even changed. The reply from Nintendo that everyone is having a conniption over can just as well mean that nothing is changed because there is no problem.
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>>324781232
Oh she likes men regardless. She has literally zero female supports, so technically straight.
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time to pirate this shit fampai
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>>324783172

How are you still here? I thought you were dead.

Unless this is some sort of legacy account.
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>>324784926
But it is. Read the next bit.

>objectionable
>harmful
>sensitive
>POLITICALLY INCORRECT

>determined by
>governments
>MEDIA OUTLETS
>authorities
>OR OTHER GROUPS OR INSTITUTIONS

It's censorship because, if it IS published/content, then it'll upset people. So you change it before the majority know about it.
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>>324784138
BINGO!
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>>324784687
>Do we actually know what exactly was changed?
The implication is that the Avatar probably won't help Soleil with her issue with women through the use of a drug without her knowing anymore at the very least. What exactly the support will entail is unknown, let alone if it will actually be any different.
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>>324785167
The 5 is mine faggot
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>>324782032
>no outcry

You kidding right? please go search before saying something that stupid.

>A company making a decision to market their product to a wider audience is not censorship.

A niche game should never be forced to become mainstream though.History shows that everytime a developer brute forced a franchise to appeal to more people than it was originally designed to do, the franchise went shit.

>Resident Evil after code veronica
>Devil May Cry after 4
>Halo after 3
>Zelda during the WII era

I can go on but all the franchises i listed suffered from severe dumb down design because companies were trying to appeal to an audience the franchise was not designed to appeal.
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>>324784926
>using commas as apostrophes

Kek. Good bait.
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Goes to show that people will literally defend anything if nintendo does is.

NISA censors games in localization, universal outrage.

Nintendo censors games for the states and people start claiming that censorship is good.

Outrageous.
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>>324780387

should've just had Kamui drinking the potion to turn himself into big sister, but still keeping the D so Soliel can have everything she wants desu
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>>324785305
alright fine take a (You)
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>>324785239

So, any art, or anything, cannot ever be changed at the discretion of the author for any reason whatsoever.

Basically, you are an incredibly stupid person and I am extremely fearfull you might have the right to vote in a few years.
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>>324784594
>Tries talking about being intelligent
>Types and behaves and even thinks like she's 12

I really think these treehouse fucks work for dirt cheap and that's the only reason Nintendo hasn't gotten anyone better.
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>>324780387
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>>324783373
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>>324785305
Nice
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>>324780387
Well everyone saw this coming for months.

It's a lost cause, wait for the fan translation.
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>>324785051
What did he mean by this?
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This is funny, censorship kiddies hate steaks. Good thing I win again.
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Hello, I'm retarded. Which version of Fire Emblem: Fates is the better version? Please explain so that an idiot like me can understand.
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>>324783587

>not censorship
>same thing as censorship

You are so many kinds of retarded that I find it hard to express adequately with words. Perhaps I shall write a sonnet.
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>>324785387
>I am extremely fearful
No you aren't, you're just a whiny bitch that's mad not everyone will put up with censorship. Go crawl back to whatever shithole you came from.
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isnt this the one where kamui makes a gay person not gay through an anti gay potion but then the potion wears off and the gay person says that they fell in love with his gay version but now love him even though hes a guy?

if so, who cares? shit support anyways. though ninten should remove the fucking touch game too while we're at it
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>>324785305
Nice.
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>>324785305
neat
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>>324784268

and what is it when a creator decides themselves that something is objectionable and tastelesss?

Is a writer censoring himself when he decides he's gone too far with something?
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>>324780387
I glad I didn't buy this game and now I feel better about hacking my 3ds
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>>324785546
Fuck off, tumblr.
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>>324781230
They only thing adult is their diet.
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>>324785501
Nohr is classic FE. Hoshido is like Awakening but easier.
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>Leon's son will still be a tranny degenerate
>Zero and Shitja will still be faggots
>But you can't cure a girl's shyness around men
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>>324785585
Remember when Lucas censored the original trilogy in the 90's? Sacrilege!
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>>324785501
Nohr. It has more objectives (instead of being "kill everyone" to complete a stage, you have objectives like seize a point or defend a certain spot on the map, etc.) , and the map diversity is better,
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Westerners are fucking fags.
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>>324785501
Neither. Do what I'm doing and buying Microsoft products from now on.
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>>324784594
This is a tranny, right?
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>>324785536
No anon, i am guenuinely afraid that people as stupid as you breed and might eventually have a voice somehwere else than 4chan. Retards so stupid they think that someone is not entitled to do whatever he pleases with his work. Hilariously, the blatant stupidity you exhibit is closer to censorship. I know you won't catch the irony.
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>>324785585
If they make changes before release it's gray. An argument can be made that they are being pressured to self censor, which is a very negative situation in itself. If they release it, then go and start cutting pieces out it is solidly censorship.
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>tfw you make a typo in a post and you can't go back and fix it because that would be censorship
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Who was right in this situation censorbros?
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>>324785501
Nohr (Conquest) has better gameplay.
Still waifushit though
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>>324785343
I wonder if these retards will be saying the same thing when they find out something they actually like is censored. The fucking waifufags will throw a fit if they remove fanservice or the incesty romances.
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>>324785762
No, but she's got like 3 boyfriends. They're all okay with it too. She's also mentally a child still.

So, if you talk to her, make sure you're super nice and agree with every single thing she says, or else you'll be blocked in an instant.
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>>324785387
They have the right to change it, but changing it out of fear of public outcry is censorship.

Why do you think companies go

>b-b-but it was for story reasons!
>location reasons!
>it didn't make sense!

It's called a lie. It's to make it seem like it wasn't censorship by making it something the artist took. It's censorship purely because it's been happening for 40 years in video games, but now with social media, it's easier to see when it's bullshit media terms.

>I'm afraid

So, more logical fallacies. Cool. Didn't think you had an argument to begin with. Here is your (You), shitposter-kun =3
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>>324785585
Then it's self censorship you fucking dumbass.

It's pretty black and white.

>>324785691
>using this as an example
>lucas turning han solo from an outlaw shoot first ask questions later guy into a cuck
>when it was the most clear cut case of self censorship you could possibly find
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>>324782032
Spot the butthurt SJW
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>>324785689
>most Nintendo games are bought/directed towards children
>full of this kind of shit

Good Goyim, gotta train them to be fags since childhood :^)
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>>324783839
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen
Way, WAY before vidya.
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>>324785838
You can edit your posts on reddit, why not try there instead?
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>>324785501
Do you like being able to grind and play the game at your own pace, and had no issues with Awakening? Then Hoshido.

Do you want a very challenging SRPG experience which you can't play as comfortably at your own pace, let alone grind? Then Nohr.
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>>324785691

That was over a decade later. Hundreds of movies have had changes between their initial and final releases, including a number of Disney classics. And I'm not talking about the digitally destructed versions on blu-ray currently.
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>>324782623
Here's your (You).
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>>324785858
lol, it's different when it's something I like!
That is an extreme lack of self awareness.
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>>324785689
>Yfw they remove Foleo and give Leon a daughter instead
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>>324785858
>protected group
What does that mean?
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>>324785683
>>324785741
Nohr it is then. Thank you.
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Why do they not just up the esrb rating based on the content instead of outright removing it?
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>>324785894
Nice, a cuckold hoarder. Either way I doubt I'll ever attempt to engage in contact with it so whatever.
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So it's always OK when Nintendo does it?
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>>324785585
You keep saying "creator". What makes you so sure IS was involved with the treehouse's localization?
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>>324785915
>Then it's self censorship you fucking dumbass.
>It's pretty black and white.

so a creator should only publish the raw, immediate work that comes from their mind. Editing, revision, all that, that's fucking censorship.
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>>324786025
The problem isn't the rating, treehouse is removing it because they dont like it
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>>324785868
>The fucking waifufags will throw a fit if they remove fanservice or the incesty romances.

They could make waifufags mad? Sign me up.
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>>324786052
Nintendo gets a free pass for everything.
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>>324785868
See
>>324785858
When the lesbian spacerocks got censored out of steven universe for the UK broadcast they went up in arms over calling it censorship. These same people who disregarded all NOA censorship as just localization. They wrote angry articles about this vile censorship on the same sites they posted defending this "localization"
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>>324781050
To be fair this was a goddamn retarded part of the game anyway.
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>>324786052
No, you ass clown. How the fuck do you ignore the giant amount of bitching?
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>>324786091

what makes you so sure they weren't?
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>>324785903
>They have the right to change it

Ding dign dign, bravo ! Your 2 brain cells somehow collided into the void. I'll save myself the retarded dribble that probably follow. I'm glad you agree that an artist or whatever has the absolute control of his work, and that implying antyhing else is the domain of a mentally challenged troglodyte.
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>>324785501

If you want the best gameplay in the series that's actually challenging without being straight up unfair and don't mind it simultaneously having the worst plot in the series with an anti-climatic boss, pick Nohr.

If you want a somewhat better story and want gameplay similar to Awakening, go with Hoshido.

Neutral route is meh all around except in gameplay, where it's pretty good. The story is campy as shit, so whether or not that's a good thing is up to you.

The OST is a must-listen.

Play FE4 if none of these appeal to you. It's peak Fire Emblem.
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>>324785046

That's not at all what is being discussed. But you knew that.

Here's your You.
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I hate how censorship has become such a meme on this board that there seems to people on this board that are genuinely against private company being able to make private decisions on changing their products to adapt to consumer trends.

inb4 the obvious "I know better than a multi billion dollar company on what its consumer base wants because I'm one of the consumers and because I want X that would mean the millions of other consumers they have would want X"
inb4 the other obvious "but these people complaining don't even play the games" with literally zero proof of the statement being true.
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>http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
>http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
>http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa
>http://pastebin.com/bgQC0yEa

This is the controversial conversation in question that is getting changed in the western release.

Give it a read.
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>>324786132

There are plenty of games like fire emblem with better gameplay too. I'm glad you don't know them.
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>>324785305
I want to fuck your mouth nonsexually.
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>>324781654
>it could accidentally hurt adolescent children's minds regarding topics like what being gay is

No it can't. Nothing could. The whole thing about sexuality when you're an adolescent is that you can't understand anything about what's going on with yourself. This entire thing is for people who have already discovered their own sexuality censoring shit, whether they use children as an excuse or not.
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>>324786025
E & T means a broader audience, more money, and so on.
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>>324786094
You are arguing something very different here.

You are comparing unfinished drafts with post release alteration.

You are literally trying to redefine censorship as "any change whatsoever at any point" and in doing so invalidate it by making it too vague and all encompassing

This is grossly dishonest of you.
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>needing a potion to cure lesbianism
>not doing by the sheer power of your cock

Shaking my head to be honest, fampais.
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>>324780387
>they're not going to censor it!
>anyone worried about censorship is either delusional or le gooblyglobbergate!
We tried to warn you
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>>324786296
Wow, I'm glad Nintendo is censoring this bigoted garbage
Fuck Japan, seriously
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>>324785689
You've got it backwards. Soliel faints around cute girls so Kamui uses a potion to make her perceive men as women to help her get over that.
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>>324780387
>mfw pirated a translated version
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>you were stupid enough to update your 3shitty
Emulator when
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>>324786212
Not him, but when NISA censored games no one was defending him.

When nintendo does it you get people crusading against free speech and claiming censorship is a good thing.
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>>324785317

Are we still doing that thing where we pretend 4 was bad?
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>>324781398
>There's a lot of people over 18 who buy nintendo products.
Manchildren, we know this.
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>>324786350
>The whole thing about sexuality when you're an adolescent is that you can't understand anything about what's going on with yourself.

factually incorrect. children question their sexuality because of socialization and because of social pressures telling them that everything outside of the norm is "wrong". We shouldn't make that worse for them with shit like this.
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>>324781654
yeah this one is more reasonable, though. you can't "cure" dead people

i get that it's "just a game" and that they "can do whatever they want," but you all have to realize that some people will be uncomfortable with a message like this, and it could accidentally hurt adolescent children's minds regarding topics like what death is

nintendo is still a bunch of fags though
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>>324786541
have a pity (You) for such a weak bait
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>>324786541
>this whole post
Newest form of shitposting, trolling, or just pure cancer?
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>>324786580
You're considered a manchild if you play any video games at all, Nintendo or not.

It's time to get a different hobby if you actually think using manchild unironically is a good idea.
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>a consumer base has changing tastes
>consumer base uses their freedom of expression to express their changing tastes to the company
>company listens to consumer base and changes product according to new consumer base tastes
>this is censorship
Do you people unironically hate democracy and the free market or something? You all sound like communists.
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>>324786296
I don't get it, it's a prototypical example VN hackery, which is what IS wants FE to become. How is it supposed to make the transition to Waifu VN Simulator if stuff that's on the mild end of the spectrum like this gets censored? Treehouse is shooting IS/Nintendo in the foot by censoring this, when the next game comes out and the writing is even more VN-like, they're going to have to completely rewrite, redraw, and reprogram the entire game. Well at least it will keep them employed.
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Japanese here.
Want to get over censorship in most games? Learn Japanese. Of course, you will still have to wait for uncensor-patches for Eroges.

Get a text-hooker and something you want to read, it's the quickest way to learn a language, It was how I've learned english.
Even trough this garbage language only made it easier for me to shitpost.
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>>324781654
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>>324786213
Why the fuck would they? They're just a small group of Japanese developers, I doubt many of them even know English well. NOA is likely handling it without much oversight from Japan, and if they consulted anyone it would be Nintendo, not IS. Not the developers at Nintendo, either

Look, just be honest here, you thought Nintendo developed the game and that Nintendo and NOA were one united entity.
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Will this really have an impact on sales? While Nintendo of NA is shit, I feel there is no way they can pull a retarded enough move that would actually heavily impact sales of FE fates. you know besides not marketing the god dam thing.
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>>324786381

>unfinished drafts

so, you'd all agree then that the changes to Street Fighter V and #FE regarding the sexualized outfits are fine, then?

creators have the right to modify their work at any point, for any reason. That's my stance. The only thing we should judge are the status of the final product, and whether the original is erased for any reason

You can still buy the original version of Fire Emblem if and play it in its original media. You can't purchase the original Star Wars versions (in a quality that's close to decent).
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>>324786712
Nintendo is legit made for children, and the elderly. If you're a young "adult" buying nintendo products, you're a manchild.
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Hey /v/ i really don't give a Fuck about this I'm still gonna buy the game.
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>>324786748
>Thinking SJWs constitute the gaming consumer base majority now

They don't, they never have. There aren't even enough of them that buy games to support the games made directly to pander to them.
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>>324786462
The fan translation? If it was finished, I might actually play it, but as it is now, I'm not really sure I want to. I can't even find the translation-patched cia file if I wanted to play it.

>>324786776
>Shitposter here.

Fixed that for you, buddy.
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>>324786595
No, kids "question their sexuality' because they have no fucking clue what sexuality even is

>social pressures telling them that everything outside of the norm is "wrong"

You mean like translators completely changing or removing a scene about someone's sexuality because they happen to disagree with it? Yes I agree, forcing your on sexuality and beliefs on someone else is detrimental; you just need to realize that censorship is still a form of forcing your opinions on other people. Is this really so hard to understand?
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Why does this sub hate censorship so much?
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Games aren't art. They're products first and foremost.
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>tfw my husbando is Niles/Zero

>tfw the only fanart of them is yaoi

O-okay.
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>>324784632
This is the single most weeb thing I have ever read on this site. And I've been to /jp/.
>bringing shame on your family and their ancestors
Prouderu Rand of Za Rising Sunu, amIright??? Nobody, and I mean NO BODY in an urban area in modern day Japan, especially not someone playing an anime-styled RPG vidya, NOT LEAST someone DESIGNING an anime-styled RPG vidya, holds those kind of pre-Heisei values. Sure, gay parades aren't anywhere near as big or popular as they are in the West, and you don't get obnoxious fucks walking around in rainbow colors, but gay pride does exist, it does maifest in events held across Tokyo, amd the message from the mass media, whether that be through popular news, game shows, the opinions of celebrities, and most prominently, ANIME and VIDYA is that being homo is okay and should be accepted into society. Japan hasn't been grorious puru empurira for many decades now, and although more subdued, it's just as liberal and pro LGB as any of the big Western countries.
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Some of you just aren't getting this censorship thing so let me postulate a hypothetical for you.

Imagine if you would that your are commissioned to draw a picture. In that picture you include many pictures of penises because that is what your creative mind wanted. Now imagine you are told the picture would be in an art gallery specifically for men without penises. It seems pretty insensitive to not censor it, does it not?
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>>324786921
>He keeps trying to say he's not a manchild
>Posts on /v/ a weeknight
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>>324786748
You are cancer, we get it. You like censorship. You like stifling creativity.
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>>324786991
What you aren't gay or something?
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>>324786864
It's going to have a mild impact in sales, nothing more. The SJWs that are hailing the censorship as progressive won't buy the game, and the few people pissed off at NoA won't buy the game either, but the majority of lost sales will be from splitting the game up into 2 versions AND making a 3rd, definitive version that costs 1.5x more. And that's not even including special editions and shit. That's where the majority of lost sales will be from.
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>>324780387
Welp its all over. No more Fire Emblem after this.
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>>324786921
This applies to all video games. So, you're a manchild if you play any video games.
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>>324786984
It's just a meme. No one cared to this magnitude until Nintendo did it last year.
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>>324786243
He does. For a reason such as "I thought this would be better instead". However, this is literally "I've removed it because if I did not, there would be problems from vocal minorities".

Don't you get the difference, friend? Otherwise, by your very definition, nothing is censorship. Because you could justify it by going "Well, the artist changed it! I mean, the government broke his legs and said his family would be next, but he was TOTALLY HIS CHOICE SO IT ISN'T CENSORSHIP LOL!"

Another (You), my, you are a greedy boy, aren't you shitposter-kun =3
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What are some changes that can be done to improve Fire Emblem as a series?

I always thought having more magic that inflicts status conditions (sleep, paralysis, poison, mute, etc.) might help with the strategy aspect but they've always been ridiculously rare items you might find 1 of per play through, 2 if you're lucky.
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>>324786864
It will have zero effect because anyone who is actually complaining about this either was never going to buy it in the first place or is enough of a drone to buy it anyway.
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>>324781654
She is not a Lesbian, she is Bisexual
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>>324787018
Nice bait. Only an idiot, or troll would reply to this seriously.
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>>324786748
>tumblr degenerates are the new western fanbase
Sad, but true, Awakening killed FE forever.
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>>324786864
>Will this really have an impact on sales?
It'll prevent bad word of mouth from a much larger group that wanted this scene to be changed when compared to your typical /v/ censor fag who likely won't buy the game anyway because you can't tell if they're even FE fans or not.

SE and that 3DS bundle have already sold out anyway, so it's not like people don't want the game.
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>>324786984
I'll let you in on a secret : it's easy to shitpost by saying censorship. They can simply say soemthing is censorship, and when proven wrong they'll just say whoever proved they were retards are censorship lovers.
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Do you guys just view everything as a zero-sum game between yourselves and "SJWs?" Is that why you're defending terrible writing like it's anuddah shoah?
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>>324786905
>text-hooker
SFV was admittedly changed to avoid backlash (Atmosphere the promotes self censorship via fear) and FE is a finished product. It's already out in japan, they are actually removing scenes from a finished product, also to avoid backlash promoted by the same atmosphere that pushed capcom to do so.

Your comparisons are either uninformed or dishonest, continually.
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>>324787018

This is next level bait.
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>>324787118
Nothing. Hopefully this will be the last one, and honestly the series should have been done with awakening.
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>>324781232

>You literally drug someone into being of a different sexual orientation

Now you know how the rest of us feel when you transition.
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>>324787065
I'm not in denial of what Nin10yearolds actually are.
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>>324786580
Well yeah, why would children buy a waifu game?
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>>324787047
Good, Fire Emblem needs to be killed off.
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>>324783117
>This is exactly what SJW's say when we criticize terrorist groups and radical Muslims.

I dare you to show me one instance of this
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>>324787118
Improve unit balance. That's pretty much the main flaw of every FE game.
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>>324787130

She's not bisexual. She is straight.

The only bisexuals are Corrin, Niles, and NotTharja.
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Friendly reminder that pretty much all of the censorship in Nintendo stems from Allison Rapp and she's not likely to leave any time soon.
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>>324787018

Terrible analogy. The product is being censored to appease a small minority. like 1-2% of the population. Not the ''whole art gallery."

So you can fuck right off with your censorship apologies.
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>>324781232
You're the reason why we need GamerGate.
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>>324784594

>Educate yourself

Stopped reading there.
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>>324787018
Actually, that analogy does not work.

You are an artist working for a company. They want you to create a picture and within the picture you include lots of dicks. The home company of this nation likes dicks, so there is no problem. Now the company wants to expand and sell its market overseas. People in this market generally dislike dicks, so the dicks are removed from the image, and replaced with something the general population of that nation does like.
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>>324787012
That's my point. Urban. The same shit happens here. Outside of major cities, homosexuality is still looked down upon.
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>>324782623
>le vaping is obnoxious meme

Clouders are bad, vaping is neutral. Nothing wrong with someone wanting to stop smoking by switching to a vape, but vape 'hobbiest' who blow literal clouds of bullshit need to be purged.
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>>324787240
>In denial
When did I deny anything? You. Are. A. Manchild. That's all there is to it. You play video games, right? Then there you go. Get a different hobby if being considered a manchild by others hurts your feelings. :^)
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>>324787363

Nice source, or are you just appealing to the whole "women in video games are the devil" meme to get (You)s?
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>>324787130
http://pastebin.com/wjSVMt8w

She is definitely a lesbian, or written to be lesbian-bait. The problem being that Japan tends to view homosexuals as being a fad, one that you grow out of once you marry that nice office worker / secretary. So from that perspective her character makes sense.

But from any other perspective it's completely retarded. She's clearly attracted to women, the MC especially if you play as one, but she can only marry men.
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>>324780387
I'm just gonna pirate. They can censor all they want lol.
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The majority of people who care about this are not Fire Emblem fans to begin with. Her entire character was SHIT she has the worst gimmick in the game. It's not even offensive or anything it's just hilariously one dimensional. I hope they rewrite the entire character t-b-h
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>>324786516
He's talking about the reboot man.
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>>324787340
>Niles
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>>324787105
But anon, i LOVE whyen a baddie like you pretend to know better than the artist. As you say, i'm sure Reggie showed up to Japan with a half-brick in a sock and screamed loudly till they changed the text.

Or, maybe, just maybe in the marvelous world of real life, some dude heard people disliked these supports and they decided to make them better for NA.


I know your little, feverish brain has trouble grasping that people might want to change, or improve stuff, but i can confirm it happens in real life. When i'm writing a lab report, my boss doesn't call me a censorship apologist and other retarded monikers when i change a drawing or switch lines around.

Again, i know the chance that you read this and understand it is minimal, but it,s part of my job to try and the mentally disadvantaged.
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>>324787165
Terrible writing does not justify censorship.
Or else shit like Twilight wound't even be published.
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>>324787018
Everyone that's replied to this, and you, are completely wrong.

Of course I'd wanna see penises if I didn't have one. I have one and they fascinate me, it would be 100x times worse if I didn't have one. This is objectively, unequivocally. terrible bait.
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>>324787478
Fuck off back to tumblr, Allison.
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>>324787512
The 'majority' of FE fans were outnumbered 10:1 by people that wanted a waifu simulator with mild gameplay elements. The majority of FE fans nowadays want the option to romance any character they damn well choose. So, her dialogue needs to reflect this. Why are you so mad about IS catering to fans' wants?
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>>324784594
Time to send rape threats, and blame GamerGate I guess.
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>>324781050
that is my fetish Tbh. are there any vids of that scene?
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>>324787548
Retarded fucking name changes for absolutely everyone and everything, including Zero to Niles. But that's another topic.
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>>324787380
So only 1-2% of the population would be offended if this date rape scene was included? That's hilariously naive.
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>FE Started as a serious strategy-RPG with impressive 2D spritework in which main elements were permadeath and the construction of strong units and empires, with relationships taking part for the sake of immersion
>does not sell well
>rebooted into waifushit and shit story/relations with painfuly one-dimensional characters, with horrible 3D artwork and generic anime CGs, with permadeath being optional and highly casualized gameplay systems
>now panders to homossexuals and censorship idealists

What's next? Place your bets, I will screencap this shit and keep it for posteriority.
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>>324787567
>editing I don't like is censorship
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>>324786941
>I know better than the multi billion dollar, largest video game company in the world because I do
Nice anon.
>>324787040
>comparing a product produced solely to make profit to anything made for creativity.
Any sensible company is going to look for the largest potential market they can anon, this is basic common sense. I'm sure your hyperbolic bullshit can make you feel good fighting for the cause though because you can pretend it's equivalent to government mandated book burning!
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>>324787567

It's not censorship. Even conservative-as-fuck Japanese fans hated it. They're fixing mistakes.

Games are not works of art.
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>>324787512
>Censorship is okay if I don't like the thing being censored.
lol don't complain when they censor something you like
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>>324785051

Have you ever been around kids lately?

They know about most things in life by age 8 or so.

I blame the internet.
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>>324787446
>That's my point. Urban.

Not the guy you're talking to, but no. You never said or even implied urban in your post.
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>>324787494
Gayness is a fad.
>She's a lesbian hurhdur
So were Severa, Noire and Kjelle before they learned of the dick.
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The nintendo treehouse manager is an SJW that believes that people should be held accountable for the actions of people who died centuries before them.

She's a total loon.

If you are a man, you can be held personally accountable for what other men have done at any point in history. If you are white, you are personally accountable for slavery.

She's crazy, and she's in charge. Enjoy that shit.
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>>324787567
The amount of stretching the it's censorship ! tards use is mind boggling
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>>324786472
you can downgrade the firmware in case you didnt knew
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/v/ literally does not know what censorship is. Which is funny as is, but then you faggots go and claim the correct definition is the wrong one.
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>>324787478
Not like she isn't spouting off on Twitter how your opinion on videogames is invalid unless you're educated in intersectional bullshit or anything. Oh wait, that's exactly what she's doing.
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>FE Fates

>NOA

>Censored

>No dual audio

>Memes

It's over
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>>324787685
>offended
Who the fucking god damn cares if someone is god damn offended.
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>>324787446
But Fire Emblem is currently being developed by a bunch of young otaku losers living in the biggest urban center in the country. Literally everything about the devs says that they wouldn't look down upon homosexuality.
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>>324787494
It's typical generic haremshit writing where the lesbian girl suddenly turns straight for the MC for no reason.
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>>324782674
>So if I understand right, you drug Soliel into liking you, because she now sees you as a girl, and now is willing to marry you for your looks because she's a lesbo

No "drugging". Kamui wants to help Female Inigo get over her problem of fainting when she interacts with a female members of the party. Kamui decides to add magic power in her drink so that she see's men as women and starts to practice talking with Kamui to gain confidence to help her problem with women. The process doesn't work out in the end but Soliel appreciates Kamui's help and Kamui proposes to Soliel, with Soliel saying yes because she fell in love with
him through the process. Soliel never once gets mad at Kamui for using magic powder, because she herself decides to keep using it even when she finds out that her drink was spiked. And Soliel isn't a lesbian, she just wants to be like her father who is a womanizer
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>>324787781
What is the definition, friend?
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mfw when Americans censor something for no rhyme or reason:
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>>324787692
It literally can't get any worse. I'm considering emulating it at this point, and I've purchased everyone north american release of fire emblem.
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>>324787692
There's exactly one gay romance for each sex, and still multiple straight romances in. If that's "pandering" to you, then you're much more of a thin-skinned crybaby than SJWs.
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>>324787804
>No dual audio
Wait what?
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>>324787790

NICE SOURCE.
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>>324787692
>Doesn't sell well

Fuck off. That formula worked fine for literal decades and now since the last 2 shitty games have gimmicky anime waifushit you act like it's been going on forever.
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>>324780387
They're LITERALLY putting out 100% lies as news
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>>324787758
I for one love this SJW Renaissance. I can rape any woman I want, and I'm not accountable in any way, because society never taught me to not rape! It's never my fault and anyone that implies otherwise is a bigot that needs to learn it's CURRENT YEAR and stop being so problematic.
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>>324787863
You just described drugging.
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>>324781654
This is the same shit what happened to Kanji in Persona 4, you all prance that he is gay but in reality he was confused and turns out he wasn't gay. You're the reason why we can't have character development that tangles their way when it touches homosexuality because you all cry that is problematic, imagine if xenogears was released nowadays, what about pokemon? we didn't see kids suddenly going on the streets to start their adventure, maybe is not the adolescent but millenials who always find their way to be offended
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tfw RD was the last good FE.
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>>324786013
You can't say anything bad about them.
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>>324780387
>giving a shit about FE
>giving a shit about Nintendo

TOP

WEW

LAD
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>>324780387
There are people that legimately follow IGN

Let that sink in
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This fix-up makes sense since it's fucking stupid despite Ninty being more blatant with their censoring of sexual stuff recently, but why is shit like this even considered news? I want to see proper FE news, not this crap. Where's a Nintendo Direct? Or some trailers? Until then, I'll be hyped for next week's meeting.
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>>324783564
That's still a loss if you account for inflation. Should've invested those 120 dollars in long term stocks. Like google.
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>>324782674
>you drug Soliel into liking you, because she now sees you as a girl, and now is willing to marry you for your looks because she's a lesbo
Not even. They mention multiple times that the drug had little to do with the descision. She knew he was a guy the whole time, and the drug isn't used anymore once they're married
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>>324787804
Either 2 things might happen

1 - FE finally dies

2 - Due to poor sales of FE Fates, no more FE outside of Japan.
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banning any form of waifu shit is a good idea
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>>324787917
Literally in this thread
>https://twitter.com/alisonrapp/status/690264632066355200
Learn Ctrl-F
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>freedom of thought
>freedom of expression
>freedom of creativity
TOP KEKKLE
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>>324787868
Didn't you read his post?

He's posting on /v/, that makes him /v/. So, not even he knows.
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Can I still /ss/?
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All creative works are never allowed to change. All first drafts are final.
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>>324788092
Fates sold better than Awakening in Japan, so it's not dying off any time soon. However I could see it not being localized in the future due to various circumstances.
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>>324788092
3- People buy it anyway because it's a good game and they are retards like mos tof the people in this thread

4- Shitposting intensifies
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>People ITT would call Krafts changing the chocolate in Cadbury creme eggs from Cadbury to normal chocolate as censorship
>People ITT would call a milk farm changing one of their cheese to use goats milk instead of cow milk as censorship
>People ITT would call a car manufacturer changing one of their models from diesel to electric as censorship
>People ITT would call a person listening to constructive criticism and reflecting on it as censorship

This censorship is a pretty ebin meme guys.
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>>324787863
>No drugging
>Decribes how Corrin drugs her drink
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>>324787804
>No dual audio

The fuck? source on that famaland, its too bullshit to be true
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>>324788165
Are you saying it's okay for me to rewrite Tolstoy to fit with modern American values? Shit I better get on that.
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>>324788129
Titty monster onee-san is unchanged afaik
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>Never pirated a game before
>Always dissuade friends from pirating.

Think I'll finally pirate something for once. Make sure no one I know buys it too, fuck treehouse.
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They wouldn't have a problem with this if it was a gay potion.

Fucking retarded SJW faggots.
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>>324788259
Kill yourself false flagger.
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>>324788015
"I knew that's...how it would be... But still... I.."
>mfw he knew how his series would end

Who could have divined the prophetic import of something as unremarkable as a normal soldier death quote.
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>>324788259
It needs its own general, honestly.
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>>324788129
With your sister? No way in hell they're keeping that.
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>>324781992
Censorship is inherently illegitimate and must be justified, just as free speech is inherently a right and its abridgement must be justified.
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>>324788070

>They say

Like how a doujin says a loli is 36.

It's bullshit they pull out of their ass last minute to make it look better.
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>>324788338
This
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>>324788015
Agreed. I've stopped caring about Fire Emblem ever since My Unit became a thing. It seems I made the right choice.

>>324788214
>However I could see it not being localized in the future due to various circumstances.
That will probably happen. Just look at all the people in this thread alone saying they're going to pirate it.
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>>324782349
shipper universe
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>>324788259
You probably wont get many replies, so here's one. You tried.
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>>324788338
Fucking this.
It would even be praised.
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>>324788259
>food is art
now if Kraft censored the shape of the creme eggs to perfectly spherical balls because it offended some SJW who thought they were metaphorically tits or some other retarded argument, THAT would be self-censorship. If you concentrate real hard, perhaps you can get those two, lonesome neurons in your skull to synapse. Alternatively, learn what a dictionary is.
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>>324788097
>that tweet
Again?
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>>324787996
>>324788271
She wanted it and doesn't even care about Kamui using the powder on her. Kamui never forced her to continue taking it either.
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>>324781654
>but you all have to realize that some people will be uncomfortable with a message like this
That's the stupidest fucking argument you could have used. It's like saying that you shouldn't show rape, murder or anything for that matter because it might make people feel uncomfortable.
The best thing you could do, is to make it look like a bad thing or rewrite the dialogue to make her bi/bi-curious because reasons, not remove it because it's "problematic".
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>>324780387
whatever as long as they don't censor Camilla then I don't really give a fuck
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>>324788338
This is 100% true, and no one can honestly deny it.

Well, unless they're a retard.
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>>324788165
How is it a first draft it was already released in Japan?

You're the only one who keeps making posts along these lines, right? I have a hard time believing anyone else is this much of a dumbass.
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>>324788115
People are exercising their freedom by criticizing the writing, and Nintendo is exercising its freedom to write what it wants.

You're just butthurt that you lost.
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>>324788338
>potion makes a guy see guys as girls
>falls in love with a guy afterward

Sounds exactly like the dumbass yaoi shipping shit you find in droves from tumblrinas.
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>>324781992
You need to off yourself drone. If this site was the same as it was even 8 years ago. You'd be doxxed, and banned with that cancerous attitude.
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>>324788528
>she wanted it
No she didn't. Fuck off, Clinton.
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>>324788064
What kind of fucking news are you expecting? The game is already out in Japan, all the features, characters, and DLC are known.
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>>324787494

ITP: Being attracted to women and men makes you a lesbian.
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>>324788484
>video games are art
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>>324788338
It would get put on a fucking pedestal for years to come
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>>324788514
So she's responible for all the memes in modern nintendo games
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>>324788596
>Treehouse is totally Mr. Nintendo himself, guise!
6/10, mildly annoyed me.
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>you were born just in time to see FE become sjw and homosexual propaganda with a FE7 mod self-insert mary sue protagonist.
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