Why is Undertale so Why didn't Toriel and Asgore realize

>>324417562
Asirel

>>324417562
>Who was phone in the True Laboratory elevator?
Did you not hear the voice?

>>324417562
They didn't realise because Chara was being a sneaky bastard about it. 'Accidentally' poisoning Asgore in an attempt for his boss-monster soul and later poisoning himself so he could possess Asriel and go on a rampage.

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>>324418768
Fuck, it doesn't work.

>>324418768
Gasterfallsintothecore.png

Why did Asgore betray Undyne's sacrifice in the genocide route by not absorbing the human souls and shitstompping Chara?

>>324417562
>Who was phone in the True Laboratory elevator?
Flowey can alter his voice, so it was him calling you in his original Asriel voice.

>>324418890
That's the first thing I tried, all I get is shitty or unrelated fan art.

>>324418961
Because Alphys was supposed to call him and tell him to do it. She didn't.
He didn't know you were coming.

https://youtu.be/PASGPcnV7lU

Leaving this here.

>>324418961
Alphys was to busy killing herself to tell him about the plan.

>>324419105
I really wish Alphys had more presence in the genocide run, since she's the one hiding the surviving monsters and the turtle and Mettaton rubbed it in your face that you'd never find them.

What would have been great is if she was finding with them in the True Lab and the only way for your character to 'know' it's there is to have done the full pacifist run before then.

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Psychopaths are usually very good at mimicking human emotions and he didn't do anything like try to murder them.

>>324419926
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwRs_elUfI&t=4m20s
What about this ending then, where you abandon genocide AFTER killing Undyne?

why couldn't you have the option to give your soul to asriel at the end of the true pacifist run. that would be the last peace to a having a happy ending
he doesn't deserve to be alone in the underground as a soulless flower

>>324421210
Because it's a tragedy story, if you could save him it would cease to be one. The moral of the story is that you can't always save everyone.

The game wouldn't have the impact it does if it had a 100% perfect happy ending.

>>324421210
I like to imagine they put him in a pot

>>324421325
I guess your right at the end of the credits I was upset that asriel was the only person in the whole game who didn't get a happy ending.
one of the reasons why I love the dreemurr reborn comic.

>>324421037
How unfortunate, smug Lizard is the wrost.

>>324421210
He had six human souls at one point and didn't feel shit. He needed a monster soul to get his feelings back maybe?

>>324421846
There are some endings where she kills herself. I don't know what triggers it though. Seems to be inconsistent.

>>324421949
killing the robot

>>324421210
I forget, why does Asriel have to stay underground?

>>324421860
well you were able to turn him good while he had the 6 souls. so I was possible

>>324422606
he didn't have a souls so he would turn back into an emotionless flower and he didn't want everyone to see him like that. if you back track all the way back to the beginning of the ruins after you defeat asriel you can find him tending to the flowers there and he tells you why he's staying and he also talks about chara (player name).

>>324422606
He returned all the souls he had stolen, so he would soon revert to an unfeeling flower. It was better for everybody if he stayed trapped in the ruins.

>>324422606
After losing all the souls he has no soul left and as such he's unable to maintain his normal form. That goves him only a little time to be a goat before he goes back to being a flower again. As for Flowey I guess they just didn't want that asshole on the surface with them.

>>324423005
>>324423096
>>324423180


Oh.

Maybe Frisk should've killed him after all

>>324423452
Still has the determination though. But actually since the barrier was shattered isn't it kinda ueless to try to trap him in there anyways?

>>324423623
he's not trapped he just doesn't want to go on the surface

>>324423623
He probably doesn't want Flowey on the surface.

>>324423858
What so he's just gonna sit there alone forever? Kinda lonely if you ask me

This is still my favorite song

>>324424194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPCMJC1Ig6s

>>324419991
This is honestly the first fan idea I've read that isn't completely retarded.

But is there even a point to finding all the hiding villagers in the true lab besides being edgy and killing helpless people?

>>324424295
I agree

Genocide had the best music.

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>>324419161

http://youtu.be/Z5jZr64gPoM
Skip to like 10:45
AAAAAAAAARRROOOOOOOONNNNN!!!

>>324421210
fuck that

Even the nicest person wouldn't give away their eternal soul.

>>324424072
that's whats so sad about it

>>324424505
Free EXP.

>>324419991
I wish all bosses on the genocide rout were like undyne the undying
I mean what's the point in getting all those extra attack and hit points if your just gonna waste them on 2 bosses.

>>324425054
I was never so hyped, followed by so disappointed than when I fought Mettaton

Because Chara wasn't a psycho murderous freak until after she died.

>>324425054
this

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>>324419161
Please no

>>324425376
>she
You know what you're doing. Stop.

>>324425054
>>324425217

I think that's the point. Genocide is the wrong path.

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>Implying they didn't view and treat her like a family dog, completely oblivious the idea that their pet could have some pent-up problems

Goat Family was Worst Family.

Reminder that chara is non canon on a pacifist playthrough

>>324425542
"You're gonna have a bad time" refers to the route in general, not just that last fight.

>>324417562
Somewhat unrelated, but why does Snowdin and the forest around it look like it is on the surface? I thought all the monsters lived underground. Is it some sort of underground forest?

>>324425614
they mention here a bunch of times tho

>>324425614
What happened to Asriel before the game then?

>>324425530
Chara is a girl's name

>>324425542
>it's intentionally shit
>xDdD-_-;pPdDxD^_^:pxdPxP

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>>324425530
You're the one getting triggered by a three letter word, jackass, you stop.

>>324425542
>>324425645
I was pretty disappointed when I played the genocide rout before the others
its pretty much a virus that fucks with the ending of all the other routs

>>324417562
>Why didn't Toriel and Asgore realize Chara was a psycho murderous freak?
He was a manipulative little bastard.

>Who was phone in the True Laboratory elevator?
Asriel.

>>324425614

Who was it in the recordings in the True Lab then?

>>324425664
It's pretty clear that the whole top of the mountain was "sunk" through unspecified means.
It's not like humans found a cave and told all the monsters "get in."

>>324425664
They live a mountain/cave with a giant hole at the top, meaning sun and snow comes right through it. I mean that's literally at the fucking start of the game.

The only thing keeping them there is the barrier, the cave itself could have been altered.

>>324425837
im not the other guy but the right way to say it hasn't been release so it can be
chara like chart
or chara like character

>People honestly believe a bunch of freakish monsters ascending from the depths of the Earth will live peacefully with humans
I can only suspend my disbelief so much.

>>324425054
Humans are OP as fuck because they have more physical mass than monsters. You're purposely leveling yourself to the max, so it's going to blow other monsters out of the water. The only exceptions are Undyne because she's a rare case of a strong monster with 'determination' and Sans because he simply won't let you hit him.

I do wish Mettaton was better though.

>>324425607
Chara apologists are the god damn worst

>>324425918
Why did you do genocide before neutral/pacifist?

>>324426073
Why did they complain about lack of sunlight then?

>>324426129
edgy

>>324426164
Humans already knew of the monsters existence though. It's not like all of a sudden they're appearing out of nowhere.

>>324426123
I was just joking, Chara is short for character, and it sounds like a girls name. There's nothing to actually specify their gender though.

>>324426218
Lemme guess.
The king off all monsters did nothing wrong 5 more times, right?

>>324426220
I wasn't a faggot and I didn't look up the ending before I finnished

>>324426250
Because the sun doesn't stay in one place for 24 hours? Also where is this complaining, I don't remember them saying anything about not having sunlight.

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>>324419161
Call me when they use pic related instead.

>>324426508
I've never heard of anyone doing genocide first, you really have to go out of your way to do it. The game really discourages you from doing it all.

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>>324426218

>>324425970
>>324425759
>>324425737
Shit, lemme explain that bit

The current play through is what decides the context behind Chara. No matter what, (s)he is a messed up child. The point is that they went to the mountain for a bad reason but fell in the hole by chance. The type of play through the player aka "chara" decides to do is what the fallen child's intentions were.

In genocide, chara is the psycho we all know and love. In a pacifist play through, chara was a sad and lonely child who wanted to die. The player being a pacifist is chara doing what they wish they could have done if they had another chance

>>324426690
is it a gril

>>324426480
I like to believe frisk was a girl because it would make more since for you to date undyne and alphas seeing as they are lesbians and I wouldn't feel gay for dating papyrus.

>>324426713
I'm sure somebody approached the game like a typical RPG and grinded up levels, found the "but nobody came" and just ran with it. It might seem like you have to go out of your way but if you encounter those save points and get the counters telling you to kill X monsters it's easy to follow that route.

>>324426954
Alphys is bi.
And you don't have to "date" Papyrus. Just don't flirt with him. Then it becomes a hangout.

>>324426882
Frisk and Chara are two separate people. I think you're forgetting that.

>>324426713
well I figured being a worrior would be coll so played that way. when I found out about leveling up I just grinded until the "buy no one came" started to happen and I connected the dots when the save points started showing red numbers.

>>324427137
No I'm not
I'm saying that chara and the player are the same

>>324426879
I need ALL of those Chara pics

>>324426882
That doesn't hold up when you consider the true lab recordings and what Asriel tells you at the end of the game when you walk back to the beginning. Chara's a murderous asshole even if you're a pacifist.

>>324427385
Even that is wrong.

>>324427104
yeah I forgot she had a crash o the king

>>324427385

Except that is also established as being wrong.

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I understand Alphys being into Undyne, but why does Undyne find Alphys of all people attractive?

Maybe she just likes big asses.

>>324427696
She says it. She likes her passion.

>>324427434
>>324427590
>my "human soul." My "determination." They were not mine, but YOURS
Chara is at the very least a direct representation to a part of the player

>>324427696
She admires Alphys's enthusiasm and they're both really into anime.

>>324427850
But Undyne likes GOOD anime, while Alphys prefers moeshit.

>>324427696
Remember that undyne likes papyrus for the same reason she likes alphys, determination. The only difference is that papyrus is like a little brother to her, while alphys is someone to protect and be with.

>>324428007

[citation needed]

>>324427803
Chara goes on to say that it was the player's choice to kill that gave them the power to revive and that they were the best partner they could have asked for.

Even that statement is saying that they're different.

Now it COULD be argued that Frisk is the player, but I really doubt that.

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>>324419161

Who would win in a fight, True Pacifist Frisk or Chara?

Who is more determined?

>>324426887
_No.

So, anyone here read what is currently released of Under(her)tail?

>>324417562
The phone was flowey doing an asriel voice. I mean you can see that flowey has a lot of different voices and even sounds like asrield at the end of genocide so it makes sense.

>>324420291
>he didn't do anything like try to murder them.

Of course. It's not like he poisoned Asgore or anything.

>>324427850
>>324427798
I mean physically. Alphys is a dumpy little trashbag.

>>324428051
No, because Flowey asks YOU personally to not reset at the end of Pacifist, not Frisk.

>>324428118
chara would win in a fight but frisk is definitely more determined
(also tp frisk wouldn't kill her)

>>324428258
Well monsters don't really have much of a physical form, since its tied to their soul. So I'm guessing physical matters less.

>>324428051
>Chara goes on to say that it was the player's choice to kill that gave them the power to revive and that they were the best partner they could have asked for.
I don't see how that gives you permission to ignore the line I quoted. He/she even refers to the whole backstory that led to Asriel's death as "our plan."
If anything, it's contrasting information and means some kind of compromise or entirely different conclusion needs to be made.

>>324428139
How the fuck are they going to do skeleton tits? female Sans is pretty damn stacked judging from the preview image.

>>324428226
I really think that was an accident. Chara just didn't give a shit when Asgore got sick from it. And it's what gives Chara the suicide idea, so he couldn't have known the flowers were poison before then.

>>324428359
Flipside though, if you sell your soul, its Frisk who pays the price.

Palate cleanser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dg80cqYACw

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>>324428258
Monsters are weird and they all look different. I assume they're okay with that.

After all, Mettaton, a rectangular robot, was considered extremely attactive

>>324428478
Read the next line then. I said even that line states they're different.

>>324428437
>her
stop this meme.

>>324428647
>I said even that line states they're different.
And the line before it states that they're the same.

>>324428734
Are you having issues reading?

>
Chara goes on to say that it was the player's choice to kill that gave them the power to revive and that they were the best partner they could have asked for.

Does not imply they're the same.

>>324428546
That is true.

I sort of got the feeling that Frisk/Chara/You sort of share the same soul (the red soul, determination).

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>>324428629
>a regular robot
Those legs beg to differ.

so anyone hear about overtale? thoughts?
http://gamejolt.com/games/overtale/108207

>>324428863
>Are you having issues reading?
Are you?

>my "human soul." My "determination." They were not mine, but YOURS
DOES imply they're the same.
My point is that these two lines contradict each other so something else needs to be figured out for interpreting it all together.

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>>324425607
>>324426336
>>324426879
Why is Chara so cute?

>>324429042
I'm not expecting much from a fan project, story wise. Mechanics might be cool.

And Overtale is dumb. I got a much better name.
Overture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGE97EYF08k

>>324428051
>Chara goes on to say that it was the player's choice to kill that gave them the power to revive and that they were the best partner they could have asked for.
Chara is a part of the player. You know when you do terrible shit in games because it's just a game? That's Chara. Chara is talking to that part of you, referring to itself in third person.

The Chara you talk to in the end of the game is just an embodiment of the part of you that wants to kill stuff in games because it's not real.

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>>324428664
Make us.

Does undertale have the deepest lore in a game???

Any hope for mod support or something? Someone could actually make the fights HARD.

>>324429090
How does someone specifically say " This thing is yours " imply that they're the same? Thats not a contradiction. Hes saying the things that you'd think was his, weren't.

>>324429042

> Voice Acting ; Breathing life into characters new and old with hand-picked actors.
> that soundtrack
> New Story ; An entirely new, non-canon narrative inspired by the Dreemurr-Reborn webcomic

no
fucking no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTnRR0xrNY

>>324423180
Why is he still a goat when you talk to him in the ruins at the end of TP?

>>324429332
This. Sounds like garbage.

>>324429332
im ok with all of this except the voice acting

>>324429031
i know where this is from.

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>>324426879
christ /utg/ has really gone downhill hasn't it

>>324428664
They're obviously girls
Toby just said they were ambiguous to please Tumblr

>>324429446
I guess he still had some time left before being turned back into a flower

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>>324425614
s/he's life is talked about directly if you back and talk to asriel.

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>>324429241
>Little to no trap rule 34 of these two
Truly a sin that furries are great artists but choose to draw the worse shit.

>>324429301
no, that's still super mario 64

>>324429535
Is that abnormal? I know Anasheya's work too.

>>324429549
It's the very nature of a general. /vg/ needs to be nuked. Then people can talk about games when they want to instead of breeding cancer in a thread they have to keep going at all times.

>>324429561
Didn't it say somewhere that Asriel and the child were like brothers?

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>>324426123
it was actually intentional that the pronunciation wasn't ever given. Toby wanted it to be as ambiguous as possible.

>>324428007
Undyne just likes actiony shonen garbage and mecha.

They could both watch some magical girl stuff together and it'd be a win-win.

I'm running an experiment. I need Undertale fans' thoughts on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9uy3KdeEU

>>324429739
What so they can flock back here? No thank you sire

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I've always loved a cheap gag.

>>324428051
Chara is the text box. It refers to Frisk as "you" and Chara as "I," and shows a sadistic side of humor even in the Pacifist end against Snowdrake's mom. Chara was always a little shit, but your actions make him downright genocidal due the increase in LOVE, which allows him to distance himself from others and turn more serious.

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What is with cute murderous lolis and knives

Reminds me a lot of Madotsuki. Chara would be the kind of YN player who uses the knife effect 99% of the time.

>>324429042
Remixes are cool

>>324430004
No, you idiot. The cancer was made by creating that place. They're not allowed to let go.

Destroy generals and people will just make threads when they want to, instead of having to ALL THE TIME. Much less faggotry.

https://youtu.be/mAx9kQkCKTs
Have you guys seen these Chara fanmade boss fights?

Do we even know if chara was evil?
what if it was just an accident when he poisoned asgore.

>>324429739
>It's the very nature of a general. /vg/ needs to be nuked. Then people can talk about games when they want to instead of breeding cancer in a thread they have to keep going at all times.
There is nothing inherently wrong with generals.
The problem is when a general is created for something is not actively producing content, like undertale, as opposed to cartoon or even a game like an MMO

>>324430237
It's like this guy forgot Chara is the embodiment of pure evil.

>>324430147
i've seen another gif that was similar to this one

you know the source?

>>324430195
Except before /vg/ existed we literally had generals on /v/ all the time.

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>Game itself tells you to move on
>No one ever does

>>324428891
I'm kinda toying with the idea that Frisk may be the player in general. When Flowery talks about his ability to save and reset, hes talking about the game mechanics too. Determination is essentially the ability to 'play the game'. And before you arrived, he basically did just that. He played, he did the nice things and helped everyone out for a while. But eventually he got tired of everyone and how predictable they were, and eventually started doing 'evil' things.

I think he or Chara comment on it as well, that you do some evil stuff simply cause you -can- or that you're curious what will happen.

If you think of it another way, the game is heavily about time travel with the save/load and reset mechanics all being ways to travel back in time. You retain knowledge of events, and to some degree certain characters do as well which changes depending on how you played the game prior and who you're talking to.

It'd also make sense that the player is Frisk simply because of the consequences that happen at the end of the genocide - Pacifist run.

That said, its also a kinda meta commentary on gamers and such as well but thats not really what I'm talkin bout right now.

>>324430467
That lasted for about a week, and not as bad. Now we have generals that last for months or even years and get worse and worse and worse.

>>324429042
>>324429332
>>324429450
>>324429475

I've always wanted to get into voice acting. I'll probably try out for this just to get a foothold. Does this make me a faggot?

>>324430548
I don't like that little faggot flower. I did genocide solely to just kill him.

>>324430272
It's heavily implied in the same recording where you hear about the poisoning. Asriel and Toriel were worried for Asgore but Chara just laughed it off.

Not to mention that at the end of the game, Asriel outright tells you that when they went to the surface together, Asriel had to stop Chara from murdering everyone in the village.

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>>324430195
Easier said then done I'm afraid.

The reason why there is a general in the first place is because people got sick of talking about it after a week and the catalog spam.

the false-flaggers are almost worse though. almost.

>>324430237
Yeah... the only reason Chara comes back is because you're a dick. There's no scenario where you can save her.

>>324430272
Asriel says she hated humanity

>>324430112
To be fair, its unclear if Chara wasn't always a sociopath. He very clearly wanted to kill humans, but he seemed very keen on using Monsters as a means to an end.

Its possible he always was a genocidal little shit, but by killing you showed him a more efficient means of doing it rather than manipulating everyone into a full scale ware.

>>324430698
No. Getting your name out there is good no matter what. Don't ever scoff at opportunity.

>>324430237
>human having magic attacks
I would have make her attacks flying knives
I also would have read the lore

>>324430393
She's not
Just malicious like asriel

>>324430237
Pfft. Screw her redemption, she's always been a little shit.

this one looks much more promising, only problem being the music being too intrusive

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dmIDkiFO4vg

>>324430683
No. League of Legends was literally constant for example.

>>324430698
Letting /v/ dictate anything about you makes you a faggot.

>>324430795
Humans must have some magic ability. Because of, you know, the barrier.

>>324430737
is this suppose to be toby?

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What is Chara's motive?
Why does it hate humanity?

>>324417996
>>324418043

Asriel does not exist yet at this fucking point

>>324429326
http://reddit.com/r/unitale

>>324430991
To be honest, it's better left unexplained. There's probably no reason that wouldn't sound dumb. Same with why Frisk climbed the mountain.

>>324430991
there's no reason given in the game

>>324430862
That actually looked pretty cool. Dialogue was not so great though.

>>324431062
See >>324419001

>>324430963
I thought in waterfall one of the signs said so thing about humans never knowing the joys of magic (maybe only through training, but its not natural to them as it is to monsters)

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>>324430984
just an anon with a voice of reason drowned out by the storm.

>>324430861
If he wasn't pure evil, then there would have been an actual battle where you hug Chara down. That, and Chara was always evil. You forget that Asriel was actually a meek, yet extremely kind little boy.

>>324430237
>literally using the default unitale attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdmAeVw5HCY

>>324430698

I was the guy who made that post.
Go ahead and do it. Voice acting is hard as fuck to get into and you need to try your hardest to find any role you can.
Still won't change all the shit people will give the game for voice acting anyway, but don't let that stop you. Take the steps necessary.

>>324431062
Asriel DREEMUR IS Flowey and Flowey is using Toriels Cell Phone. Which is why you cannot connect to her. Flowey knows it all.

Under her tail.

>>324430963
It's in the library, it says they're not made of magic like monsters and sort of implies that can't use magic. I think that's an actual mistake.

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>>324430991
She found out furries were real.
She understood the entire world had to be destroyed.

>>324431329
https://reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/3rqzd8/i_dont_believe_chara_is_evil_and_neither_should/
Reddit doesn't think so

>>324430991
That's for you to decide. There's no explanation that wouldn't either sound stupid or be a wild tonal shift, so the game wisely leaves it unsaid.

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>>324419161
we're fucking done here.

>>324429330
>How does someone specifically say " This thing is yours " imply that they're the same?
"The soul I had is not mine, it was yours"
Are you stupid?

>>324431601
Who cares what reddit thinks about anything?

>>324431512
It says human magicians made the barrier in Waterfall.

>>324431305
If you care what people who have a shared interest as you are like that's your own problem.

Also if you go on Tumblr and look at cringey humantale garbage that's your own choice, and if that ruins the game for you that was also your own decision.

>>324431821
The waterfall plaque says that human magicians created the barrier.

But the library says:

>While monsters are mostly made of magic, human beings are mostly made of water.
>Humans, with their physical forms, are far stronger than us.
>But they will never know the joy of expressing themselves through magic.
>They’ll never get a bullet-pattern birthday card…"

>>324430862
This one is pretty well done too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zHAPJBuTVA

>>324431748
>I think the number one argument is just to restate the point of Undertale. None of the monsters, no matter how scary, are really that bad. Going in with the mentality that you have to beat them down might not be the best thing to do.

>Chara is fucked up, yeah. But if you're going to believe you can save Asriel, you had better believe you'll need to learn to save Chara.

Patch when.

>>324431601
>Chara isn't evil
>sociopath who kills everyone because lol why not
yeah no.

What is the door in that cave near Snowdin that you can't open, with the glowing mushrooms?

Sans is near there too

Is it Edgelord mode content?

>>324432362
If you're not on genocide Chara is dead. If you're on genocide you're not saving nobody.

>>324432362
Chara is a manifestation of your gamer id. "Every time a number increases... That feeling... That's me." You "save" him by not doing genocide.

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I need an opinion
Is this cute?

>>324432554
Can't remember, but I think you unlock it by dodging every name in the credits minigame.

>>324432554
http://undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Mysterious_Door

>>324432554
If you manage to perfect the true pacifist credits minigame, it unlocks in all future playthroughs

It's a silly little developer room, no bearing on the story or anything

>>324431690
No, but I'm beginning to think you are. " This thing that you thought was mine, is not. It is in fact yours. " Does that spell it out for you? This in no way says they are the same. In fact its saying, VERY clearly they're different.

>>324432554
>>324432654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5s3Fh9yURI

>>324432654
Yes, but you're going to be called an SJW for it.

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>>324432654
personally, i love alphyne

>>324432654
its an Easter egg inside there is the white dog (toby) a computer with text to speech (saying he made the whole game by barking) and a pile of dog residue in the shape of a dog.

>>324432362
There is one itty bitty problem with this. Chara isn't a monster.

>>324432868
>i love alphyne
Well it's canon, so congratulations

>>324432797
It's literally saying they're the fucking same. "the thing I thought I had was actually yours." Chara doesn't have a soul, it's your soul.
I don't understand how it can be this hard for you to comprehend a simple sentence. How the fuck would that mean they're different?

>>324419089
Fuck, I want it too.

>>324433026
You need to go back to kindergarten . You have the reading comprehension of a four year old.

>>324433169
Right back at you, dipshit.
Feel free to explain to me how someone saying a thing that they thought was theirs was actually yours means there are two of them.

>>324433006
>Well it's canon, so congratulations
Toby's Lightning

>>324433026
it doesn't make sense though the game clearly separates the two characters go the fuck back to kindergarten.

>>324433494
It amazes me that you can't even seem to understand what you're saying. How do you function in real life?

>>324417562
>Undertale thread with minimal shitposting
A rare sight

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yes/no?

>>324433758
Because he started with actual topics. What a concept!

>>324433758
If you start the thread with actual discussion the thread will usually be okay.

If you start with "why does everyone like this game?" you get shit.

>>324433758
only worked because there were already two dedicated shitposting threads going on to contain the shitposters.

>>324433878
Very fitting. I like it.

are there any good fan made comics about undertale I like dreemurr rebourn.

>>324433878
not black and/or genderfluid, immediate improvement over all other human art

>>324433878
Well they're not niggers so it's all good already
That aside yeah it's pretty fitting

>>324433654
>no argument
So you're admitting you were wrong?

>>324433627
see
>>324429205

In undertale's world, a soul is your being.
The game literally tells you chara's soul is actually yours. Chara is a part of you that can't have control unless you let him/her take over your soul.

You're a retard, but go ahead and keep telling me to go back to kindergarten over and over instead of actually analyzing the dialogue and defending yourself.

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>>324433878
Humantale?

Humantale?!

HUMANTALE?!!

I'd like to see more

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>>324433878
Better than the black versions people shit off because these actually capture the character.
I dig it.

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>>324433878
FRISK YOU FUCKING LITTLE GOOK!

>>324434189
I explained it multiple times already. You are incapable of understanding and seem to have very little grasp on the english language. Either it isn't your first language, you're a moron, or you're trolling.

I can only explain it so many times before I realize you are incapable of understanding one way or another.

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yes/no?

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>>324433878
Papyrus has to figure out how to get the hell off of this ship

Hey guess what autists, this isn't /vg/
which means, fuck off

>>324434332
i dont speak monster

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>>324419161

>>324426882
I just thought of something. What if Chara was the one who threw the other six kids down into the mountain?

>>324434189
oh I thought you wee aying chara was always part of the player
yeah I always thought chara was possessing frisk during the genocide run.

>>324434316
>I explained it multiple times already.
You haven't explained anything I haven't addressed back.
Great job admitting you're wrong.

>>324434332
Japs play this game?

>>324434353
no u

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anyone else's paternal instincts kick in after hugging asriel? the final battle and final goodbye had me tearing up

I'd like to accept this as canon as to why Chara hates humanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xwMGWeIItY

>>324434479
Just westaboos. Especially since it's not in Japanese yet.

There's a couple let's plays on niconico were the translate it for the viewers, if you're an ultraweeb.

>>324434387
nether do I. It's just that japs make good fanart.

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>>324434114
Storyshift is turning out pretty well, so I'd say that. It's not really a comic though, it's like a retelling of the game with different characters in the same spots. Author said they'd be going through all three endings too, so it'll be exciting as hell once the genocide arc rolls around.

Aftertale isn't half bad either, apart from some slight edge here and there.

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>>324434479
Only a few.

>>324434479
Westaboos who speak English do

>>324434527
yup. i seriously gave no shits about him but when the game gave me the option to make him feel better I went "why not"

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>>324430991
My guess is he/she got raped.

>>324417562
There's nothing to indicate that Chara was straight-up evil while they were alive. They were probably more of a dark child with the potential to be good or evil. Frisk's actions determines what path they take.

>>324434114
see
>>324428139

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>>324433878
>humantale
>no one is sweaty and black
sure

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>>324419161

>>324434404
>oh I thought you wee aying chara was always part of the player
That is what I'm saying.
In genocide, you're letting that part of you denote your actions, so it's you that's possessing frisk. Or you could say it's Chara possessing you controlling frisk.

>yeah I always thought chara was possessing frisk during the genocide run.
That doesn't work, because then where does the player fall into it? You need to remember that you as a player are a part of the game's world.

>>324434617
I normally hate AU shit but I've actually enjoyed both of those. I probably wouldn't have been interested in Storyshift at all if it weren't for Chara in the place of sans.

>>324434479
Not japs, koreans, they actually make a lot of good art for the game, cant understand a single word of the text in their art though

>>324428139
>>324434906
>porn comics
>good

>>324434432
You haven't addressed anything. If I said >>324434432 isn't my post, its yours. You'd come to the conclusion that somehow we're the same person.

>>324434703
They laughed off almost poisoning Asgore, came up with a plan to poison themself and trick Asriel into going to the human world, knowing they'd be attacked and tried to take control of Asriel's body to kill the humans.

Theres quite a bit of evidence.

>>324434981
well she is with you but she sometimes takes over like when you one hit bosses and when you lose control in the bullet board

>>324435013
Not to mention the author has a fantastic grip on the writing style of the game itself and all the characters they've shown so far. Chara taking after Toriel's more archaic style fits what we know about them from the genocide ending.

>>324435013
>>324434617
cant seem to find storyshift
and im not usually into text based games

>>324426882
You are wrong. Do you even True Lab?

>>324432868
Its pretty cute, in a weird sort of way.

>>324435120
>You haven't addressed anything.
Show me what I haven't addressed. The fact that you aren't doing that leads me to believe you're full of shit and you're just hoping I don't call you out on it.

>If I said >>324434432 (You) isn't my post, its yours. You'd come to the conclusion that somehow we're the same person.
A post on an imageboard isn't a thing that defines your consciousness that you can only have one of, and it's not something that objectively existed with one of us in prior history. Are you trying to make yourself look like a retard?

If you're trying to save that chara's soul is separate from yours, then that means that only the player did everything before the game leading up to asriel's death and chara had nothing to do with it. Does that make any sense? No, it doesn't.

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>>324434637
same artist i think

>>324435436
http://ut-storyshift.tumblr.com/

Each post has a link to an imgur album. With a fair amount of content

>>324432654
Reminds me of the "date" with Alphys. It was a sweet moment, and very cute.

I wish i was here 5 months before to see all the shitstrom

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>>324419161
kek

what the fuck

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>>324434531
Might sound like a stupid question but Why do people refer Chara as they? Why did Papyrus refer Frisk as they? It's always confused the shit out of me. Is it just a way to refer to non male or female people? I'm not a native english speaker so I might be missing something

>>324434637
I don't think that's how bones work

>>324435958
their gender is supposed to be ambiguous

i think theyre boys but apparently i am in the minority

>>324435958
Yeah, even though "they" is typically plural (meaning it refers to more than one person), it's technically also legal grammar as a singular prounoun for someone you don't know the gender of.

>>324435909
Tumblrtale poster confirming he's from tumblr
You can all go back there too.

>>324435958
Yeah, when you don't know if someone is male or female, you typically say they. It's plural, but it's accepted as proper English.

Since Chara and Frisk are meant to be your role, they're ambiguous in their gender.

>>324435635
>A post on an imageboard isn't a thing that defines your consciousness that you can only have one of, and it's not something that objectively existed with one of us in prior history.

For one, we're talking about a game where its possible for someone to possess multiple souls. Or are you somehow forgetting that the main point of the game was to gather seven souls to break the barrier? Or that a monster can absorb several souls to become godlike?

Did you even play the game?

>If you're trying to save that chara's soul is separate from yours, then that means that only the player did everything before the game leading up to asriel's death and chara had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Chara had his own soul and identity BEFORE the game. He even dies for fuck sake and it specifies that Asriel took it.

Further more, in the genocide ending if you try to replay the game he says he'll take YOUR soul in exchange. Meaning it is NOT his. He never says it is his. In fact, by saying it is not mine, it is yours, he is very VERY clearly stating that your soul and his are two separate things.

So I'll return the question to you:
>Are you trying to make yourself look like a retard?

>>324435958
yeah, it's gender neutral and Chara and Frisk are both meant to be ambiguous in gender. i don't think either of them have a confirmed gender

>>324435958
Their genders are unknown and thus you can't use the words "he" or "she." You could use the word "it" to the same effect, but since the subject in question is human, "they" is the only option remaining.

>>324417562
God, that shit sound so fucking stupid. Get a life, you fucking hipster manchildren. And some taste for once.

>>324435958
Yeah. Usually "they" is used to refer to a group of people, but it can be used as a neutral way to refer to a person.

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>>>/t/umblr

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>>324436045
>>324436082
>>324436132
>>324436136
>>324436172
>>324436198
I was somewhat expecting this but thanks for confirming

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>>>/r/eddit

>>>/f/aggot

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>>>/co/mblr

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>>324436484
>>324436394
>>>/4chin/

>>324436135
>For one, we're talking about a game where its possible for someone to possess multiple souls.
I'm not seeing what that has anything to do with here.

>Yes, Chara had his own soul and identity BEFORE the game. He even dies for fuck sake and it specifies that Asriel took it.
He tells you that the soul he had back then is actually yours, so no, that's not true.

>Further more, in the genocide ending if you try to replay the game he says he'll take YOUR soul in exchange. Meaning it is NOT his.
So now you're just agreeing with me? What? Because that only reinforces my side, that "chara's" soul is just yours and he never had one of his own. I still don't understand how you think this means they're separate. Chara says it was your soul back when he was alive, and then he says it's your soul now. What is there to not understand about that? Is english not your first language?

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>>>non-ironically playing 2deep4u RPG maker freeweekend garbage

>>324436394
>german goo girls torrent

Oh neat

>>324436667
this desu

I wish they could have add the other souls into the game like gold and aqua

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>>324417562
>Furtale

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>>324436467
You got a fine taste in art, my man.
I realized some time ago that her right fin appears to be missing in that picture, though.

>>324436760
>>324436667
>>324436576
>>324436574
>>324436484
>>324436394
where did this shitposting come from

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>Sitting through Donut Steel; The Video gaymen experience.

>>324433878
>The laziest fuck on the planet actually looks like one

I'm okay with this.

>>324436582
>I'm not seeing what that has anything to do with here.

This is the problem. You are literally incapable of understanding simple concepts. In this game, people can have multiple souls. Souls which aren't their own. And you are unable to understand this VERY simple concept nor understand why it is relevant to the discussion. It is why you will never understand why you are wrong.

>He tells you that the soul he had back then is actually yours, so no, that's not true.

No he doesn't. Hes saying that the determination and soul you play as during the game is yours, not his.

Your fundamental error is in assuming Chara never had a soul. He did, its stated in the game, and I already specified where it was.

Again, this is a game where having multiple souls which aren't even the hosts is not only possible, it is a plot point.

If you can't understand that after all this, you're an idiot. Maybe someone with flash cards can explain it to you, but I'm done.

>>324436760
yeah anyway, who's the artist

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>>324436720

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We need to build a wall between 4chan and tumblr and get these degenerates out of here

>>324436970
this

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>>324436970
>tfw went in completely blind back in september knowing literally nothing about the game

I legitimately enjoyed

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>>324436970
Oh i did too, but this is just how much I hate the fanbase

>I-it's cool because it's deeper than my mom's hole.

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ignore the shitposters

post best girl

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>>324437334
>>>/fur/

This is literally banned here, >>>/trash/

>>324436914
>go into catalog
>no other Undertale threads to draw shitposters to
>TWELVE HOURS PARALLELE UNIVERSES AND QPUS are noticeable missing

Shitposters lost their favorite threads

>>324436998
>In this game, people can have multiple souls. Souls which aren't their own.
And chara doesn't have multiple souls, because he says "my 'human soul.' My 'determination.' They were not mine, but YOURS"

>No he doesn't. Hes saying that the determination and soul you play as during the game is yours, not his.
>during the game
No, that is never specified. And the line after the one I just quoted refers to poisoning himself and going to the surface as "our plan," which means he's referring to the entire timeline and not just the game.

Sorry, you're wrong. I know it's hard to admit, but if you keep posting all it does is humiliate you further.

>>324437334
You posted the worst girl.

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>>324437402
The results are in - you're retarded!

>>324437308
>>324437103
>>324436960
>>324436760
>>324436667
>>324436576
>>324436574
>>324436484
>animefaging
if your gonna shitpost at least shitpost and follow the rules

>>324437103
>>324437308
>weebs

every time

>>324437436
It must be amazing to be so stupid. I wish I could be as dumb as you are. The world must be a simplier place.

>>324437334
So this girl is just gender swapped /v/ yes?

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>>324436970
>played the demo years ago
>couldn't go into it now without knowing about it
Shit

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>>324437334
Ok. I will.

>>324437546
I think you meant to reply to your own post there, friendo! Don't worry, us friendly 4gaggers can help you :P

Simple ebin furfriendly post: <<324437334

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>>324437642
no, she's not a chronically cynical contrarian bitch

she's a sweet-hearted, nerdy airhead

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>>324419161

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>>324426319
>canon ending
>edgy

>>324437402
sonic is objectively just as furry as every single "furry" undertale character

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>>324426879
Does anyone have the "local kid ruins everything" pic without all the garbage around it?

>>324437402

>posting a furry himself

lul

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>>324437334

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Am I the only one who finds this game very boring/tedious to play?
I've tried to get into it but I've only gotten about as far as the Sans fight while doing a pacifist run.
I can only play it for about 15 minutes at a time before getting tired of it.
I don't have anything against it either its just been my personal experience so far.
Maybe its the graphics, maybe its the fighting system.

So does it pick up or what? Should I have done a genocide run for my first playthru?

Btw I've played Earthbound and had no similar problems with it

>>324437546
>2016
>still worshiping moot

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>>324437814
One of us isn't posting shit like that of animal characters, and one of these doesn't outright have someone's furfag OCs in it (officially~ senpai)

>>324431514
>she

also why do people keep going on about furries? there were absolutely no furries even in undertale

>>324437985
>Sans fight
>pacifist
you wot

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>>324437985
>sans fight
>pacifist run

wut

>>324437640
>get a post fully explaining why you are wrong
>can't come up with any rebuttal other than "hurr ur retarded"
So you're admitting you were wrong?
Thanks for finally accepting it.

Next time just back out as soon as you realize you were wrong, it saves you a lot of embarrassment.

>>324437985
It depends highly on how you're playing I suppose. Genocide is a bit worse however. Its the 'grinding' route. You just wander around an area till you kill every random monster, then one shot the boss. Outside of two fights, everything is a literal pushover.