Let's discuss Dragon Ball video games in celebration of DBS having Gohan get off his ass and become badass again.
What are your favorite Dragon Ball video games?
Xenoverse is my current favorite. Legacy of Goku series is a close second.
MY DICK IS MOVING ON ITS OWN
>Gohan and Piccolo used to be badass
>Both gotten really weak in the new Dragonball, nothing more then background characters
>Piccolo gets one shot, and dies quickly
>Gohan gets the shit beat out of him, like a pussy
>Gohan can't even stay in Super Syain form too long, since he hasn't done it in a while.
On the plus side, Master Roshi was still a badass, and Krillen is starting to man up again.
>Piccolo gets one shot, and dies quickly
Not just Piccolo.
>We need the Namekian Dragon Balls
SPACE ROAD TRIP FOR GOHAN AND KRILLIAN AND SOMEONE ELSE TO FIND NAMEK!
GOTEN AND TRUNKS HAVING TO PROTECT THE EARTH AS SAIYABOY AND THE PRINCE!!
GOKU AND VEGETA STUCK IN THE OTHER WORLD FIGHTING AGAINST GOD LEVEL FIGHTERS TO STOP ETC ETC!!
Nope, piccolo brought back with the earth dragon balls, goku and vegeta still around doing fuck all,
know that god of destruction? the less fun version of kid buu? still around, now we have a fat version to add to the mix.
>So Gohan finally figured it out.
He had to get the shit beat out of him, and watch everyone die to figure it out.
Did he really think Goku would protect everyone all the time?
Goku is getting old, and even stupider when it comes to fighting now. Gohan needs to take Goku's place as world saver.
Vegeta is already surpassing Goku in power level, and he's the last guy you want to ask for help with saving the world.
>Vegeta was able to go super saiyan god super saiyan with out any help, like Goku did.
Gohan has alot of catching up to do.
I don't see the problem.
>Namek saga had almost 100 episodes.
>+40 days in the Dragon Ball Z universe.
>We reached a level where we can use Namek Dragon Balls offscreen to resurrect people
What the fucking hell.
The old DBZ worked on cel animation, which is very different from today's digital animation.
>tfw we will never get Pan, Bra and Marron adventures
Being drawn on cel or drawn digitally doesn't change that someone manually draws them, it is still the same process of drawing just using a different medium
Good artist can make cel or digital look good, bad artist will make cel or digital look bad
They have bad animators working on it which is why it looks like shit
Whats wrong with your faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace?
Actually, yoda's species is all evil.
They are what people refer to when they talk abut the sith. They are the original sith and the guys who were tearing apart worlds and enslaving entire races.
He's litterally one of the few good one's.
Jesus fucking Christ, I know animators are basically slaves but come on
>Is that fucking Winnie the Pooh?
After all those homeruns. His power level must be off the charts
Super is more disappointing than the Star Wars prequels.
Not a single fight has even been better animated than this.
I never did understand this process. Is anime production that cheap that it's more cost effective to have the animators shoot out an essential "rough draft" for television premieres and then turn around and have them rework the QUALITY for the BR release or is it just the production companies being greedy shits?
Toei just doesn't care.
Even Pokemon has better animation than DB now.
>Gohan and Piccolo used to be badass
>Piccolo gets one shot, and dies quickly
Speaking of this how the fuck are they going to make Piccolo strong enough to be of any use in the Universe 6 tournament? I mean like you said Piccolo is weak as fuck now and they are supposed to go against foes way stronger than Frieza was?
Pretty Shit (usually) has nicely animated fights, if nothing else.
It's pure greed.
They cheap out on the actual series, even going so far as to cheap out on writing and think they can shit out some slightly upgraded blu-ray shit to sell to fans.
No one in the vast majority of the planet is in on that shitty business tactic and no one is willing to spend the kind of money they are asking for with the blu-ray for something that is inferior to multiple recently released anime.
They fucked up huge with this and they've actually cost themselves untold billions of fucking dollars across the planet with this cheap bitchery.
DB has better potential as a way to sell shwag and merch rather then shitting out blu-ray and sub par cheaply produced eps.
if it was at least half as good as fucking one punch man it would actually be decent.
Christ, did you fucking see that horrible fucking beerus vs red haired twink goku?
That shit is unacceptable for even low tier anime producers how in the fuck does toei think they can get away with shitting something like that out with a property as valuable as fucking DBZ?
>Gohan can't even stay in Super Syain form too long, since he hasn't done it in a while
Which I don't understand. At the start of Maijin saga, it was 7 years after cell. 7 years of him play training with his brother, and he was still fine and dandy to become supersaiyan
At the end of buu, he got his mystic powers which made him strongest without fusing..But 1 or 2 years later for Super he was a pussy again. Sure he had a kid, but I don't think having sex would drain him that much.
Couldn't help but notice the lack of your friendly neighborhood killer in this thread.
Thought I'd pop in and fix that.
>But 1 or 2 years later for Super he was a pussy again.
They kinda fucked up with this and made the time skip shorter than its supposed to be. If it was really 1-2 years, then Videl would still be in high school. And yet she got pregnant.
Does anyone else play Dokkan Battle?
I'm fucking addicted to it.
I couldn't help myself, that face is just too perfect.
OLM actually tries, Toei is just a joke now. Precure is like the only thing that turns out decent from them probably because Bandai dumps tons of money into it or something, Digimon Tri wasn't Super or Crystal bad but that was still weak and almost entirely outsourced to other jap studios.
finally starting with the new stuff
>he really thinks Gohan is going to become a badass again
Blah blah, the Korean scans of the new chapter are already out, get with the program.
Goku fights Pooh Bear
Pooh is very strong, but it seems his speed and endurance are lacking. Goku eventually figures out how to outsmart him and win, but it seems Pooh has another trick up his sleeve.
At least they cleaned up the animation in the BD release, like most anime these days. Long story short, skip the TV run and just watch the DVD/BD version.
t b h I wish dragon ball got some legit fighting games.
The closest thing we got to an original dragon ball fighting game was BT3 with it's characters and Dragon Ball story saga.
At this point the motherfucking farmer could kill characters like Goku, Piccolo and Gohan.
Maybe they went with cheapo animations fro these first two arcs, since they're just the movies again and everyone's seen them already
And the new stuff will have a bigger animation budget behind it
Honestly even the movies didn't really impress me much visually.
You're forgetting the difference in animating between things that follow our laws of physics and behave in predictable ways we can then do in our drawings, and lelflightkillsanysenseofmomentumorweight.
>can't even save his wife and daughter from Frieza
>Depending on what you believe, a being either just weaker than Semi Perfect Cell or nearly as strong as Perfect Cell
>Defeated by a member of Freezas space goons
>There were random people loyal to Freeza in space who were orders of magnitude stronger than the entirety of Freezas family put together
This was fucking stupid. Given that Gohan is so weak as a Super Saiyan he shouldnt even be stronger than Piccolo any more.
Jesus christ, what the fuck is that on the left? Tell me that's not an official version of anything.
Is this a cutscene from Battleblock Theatre or something?
That's because many of the episodes featuring Cell got handed off to fucking Uchiyama's crew. Some of those episodes were noticeable episodes as well like Gohan shitting on Cell after going SSJ2, Vegeta fighting Perfect Cell and Trunks fighting Perfect Cell, and 16 fighting Imperfect Cell to name a few. If the episode was done by anyone else it was still serviceable at worst.
>Piccolo says Frost's presence doesn't feel violent.
>Cabba's clothes are what Saiyans wore before the annexation by Freeza.
>Cabba doesn't seem to recognize the name Freeza.
>Cabba is from Planet Salad.
>In Universe 7, Salad was the Saiyan homeworld as well, before it was destroyed by "internal discord". Once destroyed, the U7 Saiyans stole another planet and named it "Planet Vegeta".
>Universe 6 Saiyans have lost their tails via the evolution process.
>Universe 6 Saiyans are still a warrior race, but they don’t steal planets. Theyare actually employed to take down evil beings.
>Vegeta wants to visit planet Salad and Cabba says okay since they don't steal planets anymore.
>Test has 10 questions, anything above 50% is passing.
>Buu fails everything and didn't even write his name right.
>Goku barely passed with a 50%.
>Order is determined by Janken: Goku, Piccolo, Vegeta. Beerus demanded Monaka was last.
>There's a "Space-tional Anthem"..."SPACE IS VAAAAASTTTT!"
>Botamo is Champa's first fighter, so Goku vs. Botamo.
>Goku runs around like a fool because he ate too much and needs to work it off before he can fight properly.
>Champa admits he underestimated Beerus' Saiyans, but suggests Botamo has his own surprises.
>actually defending the trash that is Dragon Ball Super
Go away, son.
Using loose kind of logic, lets say for arguments sake Buu's power level is 34,000,000,000. Goku's effective power level should be about 10 to 20 times that now. Shit is ridiculous. Why are Buu and Piccolo there?
Because digital animation is easier to do so executives give them even less time to do anything than ever. If they had the same time to make something back when they used cel animation, they could make some really good looking things without having to use CG or look like someone sneezed while they were drawing a frame.
I was being facetious. Vegeta's face looks like a head from that game, though.
>>Buu fails everything and didn't even write his name right.
>>Goku barely passed with a 50%.
Darn it Goku. Expected though.
and Vegeta suggested the test.
He screwed things up again
>Actually liking fan fiction
>Pink monkey fan fiction
you a furry, son?
This isn't Absalon. Not everyone in U6 has god tier power. Champa underestimated Goku and Vegeta because they were wearing weighted clothes when he visited.
Speaking of, semen demon became even more of a semen demon in Heroes.
It's more along the lines of 2,200,000,000.
They meant nothing to begin with. Only idiots took those arbitrary numbers seriously. I just do it for the fun of number crunching.
>actually liking chinese knockoff tier art
You a chink, son?
Here's the main problem with Dragonball Super:
The music doesn't create any tension unlike the original series. It's all too bright or full of string tracks. If it had trumpet tracks like the original I'd feel a lot more pumped.
This is better than the Super version.
With these tracks even DBZ worst animated parts held tension because the music and timing of music was perfect. It wasn't there often but when they did use it, it was used well!
When Frieza was training for four months he ordered all of his soldiers to do similar training. Any time anyone got hurt they were put into a healing chamber for a day and then sent out for even more training.
That's the actual explanation for why his army is so strong now.
I play it here and there now, I'm starting to get discouraged at how exceptionally bullshit the harder fights are getting to be. Oh yeah, you've got something in the range of 300k heath and do 15k damage with a regular attack? FUCK YOU.
I didn't spend a goddamn cent and I've got TEAM GODDAMN FRIEZA.
First form, second form, third form, final form, mecha, and golden frieza.
All on one goddamn team.
It's broken as fuck.
>Even when he wasnt a bad-ass warrior, he was busy being a better father than Goku EVER was.
>implying Saiyens do not develop differently
Would you actually raise a cat like a dog?
>The real underage ones here are the children defending Shitper.
Are you retarded?
I liked falconer's music too but they never stopped playing the music. I never noticed this as a kid but looking back on it I see that it was a terrible idea because you lose tension if music is playing ALL THE TIME. Plus the brass was used perfectly m8.
>Super is better than GT
>le smug reddit comic avatarfag
No but you are
>So let's make it so one of the strongest warriors in the universe can be taken down by a fucking laser beam from a stupid ring.
Oh for fuck sake.
The anime always takes priority over the movies.
In the anime (which is the current canon) Goku powers down to normal form, and is caught completely unaware when he is struck.
Try actually knowing what you're talking about before complaining, you absolute retard.
Oh look somebody who has hardly seen any anime.
See >>324399153 then kill yourself underage faggot fuckboy
Even Raditz could survive getting shot, fucking Goku got shot by Bulma in the very first episode and only got a bump on his head, stupid fucking retard child
Are you being retarded on purpose?
That is from the movie. In the anime, Goku is in base form when he is hit.
For example, SSJ Goku can be hurt by a rock thrown by Krillen, remember?
>This faggot trying to make a point
>Uses non-canon material
If he hadnt seen hardly any anime he wouldn't be aware of the fact that manime has mostly vanished. And the violent OVAs of the 90s are basicallly 100% gone.
>If he hadnt seen hardly any anime he wouldn't be aware of the fact that manime has mostly vanished.
That's not true at all though.
>And the violent OVAs of the 90s are basicallly 100% gone.
That was a special place in time though.
Digital over traditional colouring.
The line art being scanned and turned into flat pixel-wide lines doesn't help either.
Not only is it more cost efficient to remove all details, but otaku prefer detailess because girls look cuter with no features.
Oh look somebody who has hardly seen any anime.
There was absolutely nothing different between his ring-beam and a standard-issue laser rifle that the Z-fighters were shrugging off in the Frieza saga.
He was literally killed by a goddamn flashlight.
I dont remember, but I do remember hearing that whatever its from mostly sucked.
>people still don't understand the simple meaning behind Goku being shot even when it was directly stated to them multiple times by multiple characters including Goku himself
When I die, tell my family that memes killed me.
And in episode fucking 1 Raditz was in his base form. Base form Goku in Super is literally millions of times stronger than his brother. You are seizing on one picture because you know you can't refute anything else. Keep making fallacious garbage arguments like the child you are, fuckboy.
A bullet from a high powered rifle bounced off his forehead when he was a child. IN THE FIRST EP OF DB!
The fight between kamiccollo and 17 was the last decent and interesting fight. The fight between goku and kid buu was entertaining but that's about it. Seriously, those were probably the best actual fights in dbz.
and Frieza's army spent the years he was gone getting their asses handed to them continuously.
There are also all of the other shitters with standard-issue shitter weapons in the same encounter who can't significantly damage even Master Roshi.
>You are seizing on one picture because you know you can't refute anything else
No, I've already refuted and won the conversation. You're just too stupid to understand it.
I'll say it again.
In the movie, he is hit in God mode. This is of course stupid, I agree.
In the anime (and anime has always taken canon priority over movies). He is in base form, and completely unaware when he is hit.
Now, I know you're going to start spazzing out about
>but he got shot with a bullet in DB!!!11!!!!!
If I need to sit here and explain why a fucking laser from advanced aliens is worse than a tiny bit of metal, then I'll honestly lose the will to live.
They replace him in the later episdoes. North Kaio's VA was fine in the original series before Kai back when he was healthier. I'm surprised they even brought him back for Super but it's a tradition to use the same VAs til they die usually. He himself asked to be removed from the cast because he knew he couldn't do the role anymore.
>show all these terrible abortion art pictures to my friend
>"dude i dont understand why the fuck you're whining about this show so much i saw the first three episodes and they looked fine. like anyone can take a screenshot of some inbetween shot frame with a derp face."
>show him videos of the god awful art, animation, fight choreography, music, etc.
>"dude theres nothing wrong with this it looks exactly like dragonball z did stop being a little bitch"
>bring up the fact that even the most hardcore of fanboys and fanboy sites are touting it as garbage
>"so what dude? people are just overreacting"
>bring up the fact that this shit has been going for like 7 fucking months and has just been a re-telling of the movies except with worse art, dialogue, voice acting, music, art, animation, choreography, etc.
>"man who gives a fuck if its a re-telling and it's taking forever to get to a new arc, there's still tiny bits of new things put in here and there, right?"
I don't get it. I'm a bigger DBZ nerd than he is but he's far passed me in delusion levels. Is this a new level of denial? Super Denial?
I haven't watched the show in a long time but these are fake, right? I know the fight with Beerus was bad but this is parody level.
Please tell me its fake.
because the show has a few extra bits inbetween the stuff from the movie
like Ginyu taking over the top lieutenant's body and gotenks dropping in to help against frieza
they also changed some things around like Bulma's birthday taking place on a cruise ship instead of at capsule corp
and they digitally replaced gohan with a giant vagina since he's no longer the strongest person in the dbz universe
Everyone ITT over the age of 18 already blew your shitty "arguments" the fuck out. Laser beams did fuck all to anyone on Namek. Not even Master Roshi got hurt by them when they fought Freeza's men. You're a pathetic child circlejerking over Shitper because it's all you've got. I actually pity you.
>people actually using the term "manime"
It pretty much stands for "I've only seen 20 anime".
The last episode of Super I've seen had Goku running from Chi Chi and grabbing onto Whis' shoulder right before he zoomed off. Which episode is that please? I need a number, not a title.
>technology grows faster than the Z Fighters training constantly over that time
I guess Dragon Ball should just be about gun fights now then huh? Let's turn it into Cawadooty for your underage fuckboy ass.
Nigga, it's been explained many times before that the only reason they're so durable is their use of ki as a defensive tool. If they're relaxed and their ki is down, they can still be injured by shit that would normally injure their bodies. If you had any cognitive ability you'd find that it isn't as retarded as you find it currently. And there is not a bit of canon that contradicts it.
>living with horizons this limited
You probably haven't seen much of the "manly" shows that you acclaim so badly.
>underage fuckboy ass.
Look, this conversation is clearly upsetting you far more than it should. We're just talking about a chinese cartoon, and you're all upset.
I'll let you have last reply so you can "win". You need it way more than I do.
Free shot champ, make it good.
You are literally the equivalent of a faggot who only plays CoD and Halo
>he says as he literally posts nothing but little girls
yeah i should broaden my horizons and watch garbage generic moe bullshit just so I can say I watched X number of anime instead of actually watching shit I can enjoy.
Fuck man this stings so bad. It's fucking DRAGON BALL. How is anyone okay with putting this little effort into something that iconic? I guess I'll just torrent the blu ray versions when those finish coming out but fuck this is a bummer. At least it isn't written as poorly as GT I guess.
I can forgive bad animation since I don't watch it that closely, but the way he became a Super Saiyan God was fucking retarded
>we need 5 saiyans but there's only 4 of us
>wait my unborn child is half saiyan!
>thankfully this fetus can turn super saiyan and transfer its soul from within my belly to goku
>Fighting about fucking anime
>Hurr i'm more hardcore weboo den u i watch all teh animaymays
Why can't we just watch what we watch?
Why does it matter?
I think this thread needs to smoke some weed or something holy shit.
Just calm down.
You watch what you watch I watch what I watch, jesus.
>having such a narrow scope of anime that you think all that you've seen is as good as it will get
Not even talking about those 'moe' shows you constantly throw down.
This is full on Dunning–Kruger effect stuff here. You retards have only scraped the surface and probably haven't even seen the core "manly" shows with real men.
That would be rad as fuck if it resulted in him getting one of those reverb fusion voices. Except with a million voices instead of two.
Of course, he'd still just look like regular Piccolo.
>Why can't we just watch what we watch?
Cause these retards DON'T watch. It's like watching a bunch of idiots try and talk about a game that's at least 30 hours long when they've only played 1 hour and think they've seen it all.
I'd need to see the page again before I make a bold statement but one occasion of a gag in a gag manga does not make the numerous times that show my statement to be true invalid.
then here's a screenshot from DBZ which still manages to look better than that crap
No you fucking retard, this is how you sound
>Wow look at those guys liking those shows over there
>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T THEY LIKING MY MOEBLOB? DON'T THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S AMAZING MOEBLOB OUT THERE?!?!
>FUCKING INSUFFERABLE CHILDREN HOW DARE YOU ENJOY WATCHING A FEW SHOWS AND NOT THOUSANDS OF GENERIC SHIT ONES!
You're making assumptions.
Also if you want them to listen you might want to drop the anime girl image dump.
I should know, it really makes people not give a single shit about what you say.
It's an automatic trigger for alot of people.
>You're making assumptions.
Nah, you can tell from a glance who actually watches and who doesn't.
>incredibly smug air of superiority for sitting next to the anus of the anime industry and inhaling deeply.
you are so much better than us, master moeblob. how ever do we compete with such an anime leader? how many anime must we watch in order to become a student of master moeblob?
>Nah, you can tell from a glance who actually watches and who doesn't.
Whatever you say.
But it really kind of makes you look like your just baiting.
Specially since you're quite attached to those girls.
Whatever I guess.
also >>324405629 is kind of right. You do seem a little whiney. Do you need to take a big shit or something?
Because Gohan is weaker now than he's ever been as fighter. And I'm not just talking strength and speed, his technique and skill sucks ass from being dormant so long. Goten and Trunks probably due to being children but Heroes will probably have SSG Gotenks at one point.
>I watch hundreds of shitty contrivances of Azumanga Daioh because I have autism
Maybe they're trying to infinitely skirt around "Super Saiyan 4 vs Super Saiyan God" and since Super Saiyan 4 had been featured in promotional material for Heroes since the start, that's the one that gets to show up in all the promotional stuff?
Plus seeing things like Super Saiyan 4 of characters who didn't normally get it is always fun. Get ready for them to eventually make shit like Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Gotenks or whatever, too.
I thought they reached the next level while brawling with each other?
their fists met and there was a strange aura then Whis said something along the lines of "I didn't think they'd get there this soon"
>grown men who have pictures of smug anime girls saved to their computer
but if you've actually seen and enjoyed any of the series that these girls come from: please kill yourself. The world is better off if you don't pass down your genes
>Specially since you're quite attached to those girls.
The images just serve as the 'retard' magnets.
It means I don't have to put any serious thought into what
says. See how that works?
Anyway most people who tout anime no longer being 'manly' are just idiots who've only seen a few shows on Toonami or something and are talking smack about something they don't understand.
For arguments sake, I said.
The point is, Buu, Piccolo and Gohan are both nowhere near the strength level needed to even get a reaction out of Beerus like Vegeta did. All Vegeta did at that point was surpass Goku, which isnt saying much because Gotenks should still wipe the floor with both in SSJ3.
Gohan would have got the same "fight" out of Beerus if he was at his Buu Saga prime, but the overall point is Goku with god ki let alone Super Saiyan Blue blows even Vegetto out of the water, so how the fuck are Piccolo and Buu with their poor strength levels going to matter?
>Link to the up to date manga?
More assumptions, but okay.
But they are kind of right, maybe you should give it some thought?
Just saying maybe your head is just a little up your own ass friend.
>all these people who have literally only seen 20 series trying to talk about anime thinking what they say has merit
It's almost funny but in a tragic way.
It's as close to the name actually being Super Cyan as it'll ever be and I'm fine with it, but the point is that they both had to be powered up to become SSG and both obtained SSB afterwards by themselves.
>More assumptions, but okay.
The two main assertions put forward:
>anime is mostly moe nowadays
>""""""""manime""""""""" is dead
Dead giveaways of somebody being a babby to anime.
>I'll refute them by posting more moeshit
What makes you think you deserve my recs, you filth
The quality isn't as good now as it was in the original season because digital animation but it's still godlike, man. They'd better eventually get to Takamura's latest fight. That shit was raw adrenaline.
I see what's going on here. You're projecting so hard because you yourself have watched less than 20 anime and you're trying desperately to get other people to recommend YOU anime.
Nice try you moeshit.
Tech evolves and it's been over a decade since then in series. Space probably has a much higher rate tech advancement than Earth does. They were able to go from having to give Freiza cybernetics to being able to completely restore him from bits and pieces.
>being this salty you can't get my recs
For a Premium mobile game, Dokkan Battle isn't that bad. They're quite generous with free Dragon Stones, the currency and I have not needed to spend any actual money on it just yet.
And the music is far better than any mobile game has any right to be:
Nah. Had a story fake-out with his eye, he kept to his role as Ippo's bigger brother by showing him what he was lacking from before, and in the process of doing that take full advantage of his opponent and lays them out completely. Not as good of an ending as Hawk or Eagle but it was still pretty good.
Kek. Maybe in Japan land, but in places the world that actually matter the only people that care about DBZ are old fags that grew up with Toonami, and liking DBZ will die with them.
>Monaka: The greatest war potencial of the 7th Universe!? A hero with a name meaning "The Great Ponta (Nipple)". A powerful person that gives Beers-sama a hard time but will we see what he's worth!?
>Frost: If you thought "Hm!? This looks like...!!", then you're absolutely right. This is the emperor of the 6th Universe, hiding something!! Which means, is this his 1st form!?
>Magetta: He has smoke coming out of his head and has something burning in his body!! He seems like a robot but, actually, he's an alien from a species called "Metalman". What techniques does he use!?
>Botamo: From Botamo, at first glance, we can see he looks like a bear and is very proud of his strength!! What is currently known about him is that all his body is glossy and hairless!!
skipped his training to start a family and became a little bitch
These guys were talking about dragon ball in there podcast this week
>mfw I actually like the designs because they remind me of Dragonball more than DBZ
>Hit: With his cool outfit, which looks like he's wearing a long coat, there's no doubt he's a warrior!! There's a dangerous feel to the name "Hit"...
dragonball super is a disapointment.
at least Gundam Origins is a done right.
>Cabba/Kyabe/Cabe: There are Saiyajin in the 6th Universe as well. Cabba is one of them!! It seems their battle suit/armor is vastly different from the ones Vegeta and the Saiyajin of the 7th Universe have. So, what is "his" true strength?
><- They don't use gender pronouns when talking about Cabba.
No idea, all we can do is see how it plays out, Goku will probably win his first fight, and then tag out if favor of Piccolo, the next in the line, then we will see if he will win, put up a fight or just get destroyed, it is all up to Toriyama.
Gohan doesn't like fighting and doesn't need to fight because Goku and Vegeta will always be there.That's two gods right there. I doubt they'll seriously put focus on Gohan again like they did in the Cell and Buu saga.
The only thing sanic is known for is some tranny online talking about how there was nothing he could do, he's pressing buttons but nothing's happening.
Pokemon is in the same position as dragonball, only oldfags care about it, and it will die with them. Young people have smartphones now.
Exactly, and that's fucking stupid. Each new generation of Saiyans seems to advance faster than the last, until they suddenly hit an arbitrary ceiling so they can never outshine golden boy Goku Cena. Toriyama actually planned for a long time for Gohan to eventually replace Goku as they grew older, but never followed through because fans can't handle changing anything.
So can anyone fill me in on what any of this shit is?
I used to watch and love the shit out of DBZ back in the day.
Avoided GT because I knew beforehand that it wasn't canon and was just a cash-grab.
Learned over the years that Toriyama stopped giving a shit about DB as a whole and forgets about his own characters.
Flash forward to a year or so ago:
a movie comes out?
Then another one???
and there's a manga somewhere???
What's going on?
>was just a cash-grab.
DBZ itself was a cash grab. It's a terrible adaptation whereas DB had reasonable pacing.
>Learned over the years that Toriyama stopped giving a shit
>stopped giving a shit
He never gave a shit from day one.
>He had to get the shit beat out of him, and watch everyone die to figure it out.
But he already went through that arc fighting Cell. That was supposed to be the point where he finally manned the fuck up and began to actively explore his potential.
The Cell saga even ends with Goku passing the mantle of Earth's protector onto Gohan, because he knows he's ready to embrace that role. God damnit Toriyama.
Everything is bad. Video games, anime, movies. It's all shit