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>The best combat for an open world game with the possible exception of Dragon's Dogma
>Gets shit on for not having better combat than completely different and or linear games

They did their best /v/ can't you see that?
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>The best combat for an open world game
Open world confirmed for shit, then.
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>>324380871
>best combat for an open world

even fucking skyrim is better than this trash, not to mention fallouts

fuck off with your offline mmo
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>>324380871
/v/ is shit

news at five
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it's better than DD's combat tbqh
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>Witcher
>good combat
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>>324380871
>Dragon Dogma
>best combat
Is this the birth of an epic new meme?
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LOL say that to the GOTY
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>>324380871
While I agree Witcher 3 has pretty good combat I don't think open world games necessary have lower standard in combat compared to linear games.
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>>324381472

Found the butthurt Bethesdadrone

How can Skyrim have a better combat system?
Close combat is just fucking clicking the eft mouse button over and over again

>>324381736

>Posting debunked WEBMS

Still mad
Webm related
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>>324380871
The game is STORYFAGGOT garbage worth shit.

>B-B-B-BUT MUH WAIFUS
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>>324382002
>game has one good hitbox
>it means the other bad hitboxes are acceptable

Debunked, my ass.
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>>324382002
Holy shit. That's literally the single worst hitbox I've seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of bad hitbox.
How can witcher plebs even enjoy this game?
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>>324382495

>Single worst hitbox of my life
>Hitbox on Geralt is not hit by Mourntart
>Because Geralt bends down

Okay

>>324382136

>One good hitbox

You mean the game is fine and you are shitposting the same old and debunked WEBM in every Witcher thread for months now?
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>>324381736

SHOCKWAVES
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>>324380871
>The best combat for an open world game

Oh come the fuck on. It's my runner up for GOTY 2015, and even I know it's fucking bullshit.

W3's combat is serviceable at best. It's not bad enough to dampen the experience, but it's nowhere near good enough to be enjoyable by itself, much less be a highlight.

>>324381472
>Skyrim

Yeah no, skyrim's combat was way worse than W3's. As for Fallout, the combat is more fun, yes, but that's a shooter.
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Every fucking time. Every fucking Witcher thread that faggot spams the same fucking webms. I wonder if he gets paid for it
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>>324382861
So what open world game has better combat?
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>>324383562
Every single fucking one.
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>>324383562
Fallout 4
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>>324383562
Witcher 3.
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>>324380871
I like the Witcher but the combat is the worst part and that's huge fucking problem
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>>324381736
>dark souls.webm
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>>324383562
>playing open world games


Lellll
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>>324380871
I hate the Witcher but I'd have to admit the combat is the best fucking thing ever.
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i dont know about you guys but i fucking love the combat system in witcher 3, but my approach is doing contracts and quests completly underleved, this is where the fun begins
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>>324380871
witcher combat is not bad, its simply low priority
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The animations are beautiful and in theory I like the combat design a lot. It's just that the hitboxes are fucking awful, made me mad a couple of times.
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>>324380871
are you actually trying to defend the combat in witcher 3?
No way man
its terrible
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>>324384910
>my approach is doing contracts and quests completly underleved, this is where the fun begins

yes, having damage-sponges as enemies completely changes the combat
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>>324381736

Jesus christ how the FUCK do you make this game so butt-fucking ugly?
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>>324381736
god awfull sometimes this piece of shit game forgets to calculate damage
broken ass magnet based ''combat''
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>>324383562
Any Souls game, Dragon's Dogma
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>>324380871
let's be real, its not a bad game by any means, there's actual effort put into it, unlike bethesda.

still, it got downgraded very hard (and that's coming from a previously pc-focused developer) and the combat is pretty shitty. if it wasnt, we wouldnt be complaining about it
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>>324385075
never said it changes but it's more fun for me, and I dont think a fucking monster should be down in 5 hits, i just like video games anon
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I agree, it literally stoped me from playing. Mash x to win and cheese on high difficulties just isn't fun for anyone. I just downloaded the latest dlc and patch so I'll give it another wack but thqh this is the only game that's ever turned me off so much just from one aspect.
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>>324385339
>I dont think a fucking monster should be down in 5 hits

even at normal difficulty with quest recommended level they dont go down in 5 hits.
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The combat is very good cause it's actually hard but not impossibly difficult or make the boss have 10000000 hp.
I have more fun fighting the first Griffin boss in it than fighting any boss in Bloodborne.
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>>324385318
>dragons dogma
the memes come real in this place
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>>324382002
This webm proves that this game has onen of the best hitbox in any 3rd person action game.
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>>324385590
>>324385645

b8
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>>324385590
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>>324385147
they took notes from your mum
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>>324385732

ohh snap, it hurts
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>>324385590
This.
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>>324385828
same + faggot= samefag
don't post proof cause i know its edited
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Sleeping Dogs combat is better
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>>324385590
>4-5 attacks whole game with one weapon type
>good combat
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>>324385510
then i was doing something wrong
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>>324385897
You need to be over 18 to browse this web.
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>>324386080
nice meme kid
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>>324385318
Souls isn't really open world though, at least not in the same way, Souls has cramped level design, The Witcher is open ended, could anyone really argue that Souls handles multiple enemy combat better than TW3?
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>>324385590
I like the game but that Griffin was shit, it's hitboxes were god awful.
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I never really got why people on /v/ had such a problem with Witcher 3's combat. I can understand 1, the larger rpg focus combined with the rhythm game stuff is pretty out there and not to most people's tastes, and 2 was a broken mess of an action game, but 3 was totally fine even if you're just sticking with swords. There's nothing obviously wrong with it, and if you use all the tools at your disposal instead of just your sword it's actually fairly interesting, too. People don't really have any actually coherent critiques, too, they just say that it 'feels' bad if you ask. No one brings up the actual big problem with it (which is how op quen is), which makes me think people on /v/ are coming off of dark souls and just trying to use their swords for everything when that's not what this game is, at all. It would be like if you played Dragon's Dogma and only used your core skills.
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>>324386804
why do you have to exist?
you have poor stadards and you infect other idiots opinions
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>>324387090
For an open world sword combat game though there are no obvious better examples beyond DD.
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>>324387326
for an open word
whay is this an excuse?
if its open world it means that if the combat is broken its ok because of the size of the map?
also open world has 0/10 level design
keep that in mind
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>>324380871
GOTY
O
T
Y
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>>324386804
its dodge around to an open point,go in for an attack,dodge the enemies attack when they aren't getting hit stunned,rinse and repeat. It's especially obvious when going up against bosses or big bulky enemies.
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>>324387614

Not him, but because the game is gigantic in scope.
You may be a fucking child who has no understanding of how games are made.

You think "they can just make everything good" if they want to, theres no budget or time limit in your calculations, just whining, bitching and shitposting.

There are priorities when making video games and when you make a gigantic RPG with this level and quality of content, you can't make everything perfect.
Combat was low priority for TW3, that is obvious - just like it was for all the other Witcher games.
For that - its still fucking stellar.

>buh its nto as good as this other game
That game, whatever you want to mention, will be missing on many many aspects TW3 excels at.
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>>324381472
>even Skyrim has better combat
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>Be mad at a game
>Post the same webms for half a year.
>This valiant work doesn't stop the game from getting an enormous amount of GOTY awards
>Get angrier
>Post objective flaws about why Open world and everything about TW3 is shit
>Get laughed at harder
>Get even more mad
>Shitpost in every single thread because of the eternal butt anger.
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>>324381736
And people say Dark Souls hitboxes are bad? Jesus, look at that shit. He's getting hit from a fucking kilometer away in the first hit.
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>>324387614
Because there really is no level design so the combat has to vaguely work in almost all instances given the devs can't really predict how a fight will play out, devs could tweak a castle design till their hearts content in Souls to make the fight interesting however in a world design that aims to reflect "realism" and is open ended filled with fields, woods and mountains you have to implement mechanics that can work well in an uncalculable amount of circumstances, which is why open world games all too often have shit combat or are simply fuck around sandboxes.
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>>324380871
I've been playing recently and I think it suffers greatly by how tedious the combat is until you're at least like levels 8-10 and how you can't really explore too much or do contracts until then.

I was pretty angry and unhappy yesterday when I was playing because of this but now that I'm level 10 and have gotten better gear, the game isn't nearly as tedious and can actually really of fun. It's just a stark change between the earlier levels its kind of shocking. I can see why it would turn a lot of people off
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>>324385318
Dragon's Dogma combat turned out to be total shit
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>>324387878
You could say the same thing about monster hunter. Being reductive like that is bullshit
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>>324388493
As much as I liked dragon's dogma this is true.
Warriors feel like complete shit, fighters, despite having a shield, get a move with i-frames.
I didn't even bother with the other classes because I like pure melee fighters and they're kind of shit.
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>>324388238
>>This valiant work doesn't stop the game from getting an enormous amount of GOTY awards

neither did for skyrim or tlou, released during years with much stronger contenders.
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>>324388727
So why are you angry about it?
If it's so shit you should be able to let it go.
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>>324388727
But at least it didn't have autists spamming the same webms over and over again.
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>>324388727
Trigger warning.
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>>324388824
>So why are you angry about it?
did i says i was?

my comment is this
>>324385325

im actually pretty chill about it, all im saying is that the combat is shit. the fact that it was a low priority doesnt change it.

>If it's so shit you should be able to let it go
sure, that's why we had countless shitposting threads about cinematic games. if they're so shit, and they are,why dont people let it go?
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>>324389079
>they show that my favorite game have bad combat
>they are autists!

Son, grow up
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>>324380871
>the best combat for an open world game
Well I guess that confirms that all open world games have absolutely horrible combat.

>they did their best
Their best is still shit.
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>>324388607
>didn't bother with other classes
>didn't even use the sub classes

so you didn't play the game...meaning your opinion doesn't matter
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>>324389241
More like
>Want discussion
>Same guy keeps repeating himself for half a year
>"HURR WHY WON'T YOU DISCUSS THE SAME THING FOR 6 MONTHS? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DEBUNK IT AFTER THE FIRST 200 TIMES? AS I THOUGHT!"
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>>324389169
gtaV alone was a stronger contender than the combined buggy f4, the unfinished mgsv and the not so normie friendly sony exclusive
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Hey the angry anon complaining about hitboxes, watch this
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>>324389324
>Enjoy a certain playstyle
>Only play that way
>Don't play the way some faggot on the internet wants me too
>I'm wrong and not playing the game correctly.
Warrior class is fucking garbage
Fighter class was done pretty terribly.
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Game needs to fix retarded hitboxes (specially on fucking cyclops holyshit) and add iframes to the sidesteps and it would be perfect
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>>324389523
>add iframes
I frames are cancer for metagaming faggots that rely on a panic button instead of preparation.
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>>324389449
Stop being butthurt, you sad sjw, that you couldn't roleplay as fairy pansexual bushmen.
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>>324389449
That is some excellent AI right there, god damn.
Truly the best RPG ever made.
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Having played Dragons Dogma for 10 hours now, using mage/sorcerer. I can honestly say that the gameplay is more fun in Witcher 3 for the first 10 hours in comparison.
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>>324389449
>He's the angry one
>Still at this for 7 months.
I...see...
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>>324389169
yeah, it triggers me seeing geralt with those monster trophies?
you know why? you never feel like an actual monster hunter in the game, even the meditation phase and potions have been streamlined in tw3 compared to the 2nd installment.

literally a waste of potential, especially seeing how spamming quen is more effective.

but if all you want to hear is how perfect tw3 is, here it is: it's perfect.
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CDPR shills go home. Nobody worth a shit cares about this trash anymore.
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>get really hype for DD because aparently it has a very deep and tight combat system TW3 cannot even hope to compete with
>just fucking spam Blink Strike and and keep hitting them while they're down

I've been tricked the last time.
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>>324380871

I love TW3 with a passion, and I'd gladly take it in the butt for CDR.

But holy shit, the combat in TW3 is definately not the best. The rules and AI are all over the place, and there are a fuckton of hidden shit you won't find out about unless you do some actual research, like when you get i-frames or not because apparently the i-frames differ depending if you attacked or not and other factors.

No, fuck the combat in TW3. Even the first game using the Aurora engine had more fun combat.
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>>324389951
Meditation phase was unfortunately dumbed down.
However TW2 wasn't the right answer.
Needing to meditate to drink potions was fucking stupid and required prior knowledge to utilize it effeciently.
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>>324390017
Never trust a consolefags
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>>324389367
People also repeat 200 times how they like Witcher. Every part of discussion is allowed including criticizing combat.
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>>324390017
SHUT UP
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
TW3 IS BAD BECAUSE I SAY SO!
I LIKE GUNS MORE THAN SWORDS AND THESE WEBMS WILL PROVE ME RIGHT
EVERYONE HAS SHIT TASTE BUT ME
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>324390072
>and required prior knowledge to utilize it effeciently.
which you got from researching the monster you were going to fight. in witcher 1 you would find out what's up with the monster, generally know where and when you're gonna fight, then you would meditate to prep oils and potions. nothing wrong with that
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>>324385590

>"aww yeah, griffin boss"
>get hit no matter what I do
>roll? get hit by a wing swipe
>dodge? get hit by a wing swipe
>every attack in the game is also homing, so pic related

Great game, shit combat because it's frustrating as fuck.
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>>324389693
>you sad sjw
wat

>you couldn't roleplay as...
I couldn't roleplay at all in this garbage game. Watching a fucking movie would have provided me more fun for the same fucking effect.
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>CDPR shitposted MGSV threads to death
>then Bloodborne
>then FO4 (although the game is trash
I guess Dragon's Dogma is next up for the shitposting Polack parade.
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>>324383562
Kingdoms of Amallamalur
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>>324383562
Msg tpp
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>>324390204
>all that salt
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>>324389506
You should probably try out the other classes or at least get some skills for the classes you like before you drop it

I played warrior for a while because I love huge swords and big armor but found out that I really loved the assassin playstyle so much more
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>>324390253
I mean having to sit down and drink in TW2.
You couldn't chug potions at will and the buff time was so low it was fucking useless anyway.
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>>324390017
this is 100% correct
>but you can climb the enemies dude it's fucking epic!!!
what this actually means is you sit on the enemy's head and wail on him for 10 minutes (those giant health pools really add to the fun) and occasionally pop a mushroom
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>>324382002
You know the fact that you use trips on a image board makes you a fag and everything you post can't be taken seriously.
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>>324389523
>>324389652

I-frames are in the game already, but it all depends on wether you have recently attacked or used a sign lately.

Watch this video;

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPqKqTdkh4E
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>>324389449
Jesus Christ this is awful. I don't understand how anyone can defend it.
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>>324390503
It's easier when you're getting paid by CDPR.
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>>324390410
I'm not gonna drop it.
It's servicable and that's good enough for me.
Besides I gotta do all the quests so my pawns can help my other buddies that play.
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>>324390349
But i guess their real problem will be finding something to shitpost about because dogma is witcher 3 done right by japs
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>>324390314
thats why u take the immunity when dodging talent


fukkin shitter
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>>324390625
DD is inferior to TW3 in literally every way
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The combat is worse than batman's and worse of all the character progression is nonexistent lvl 1 Gerald is the same shit as when you beat the game
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>>324389169
Is time for "reviews and awards matter only when I like the game"?
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>>324390334

>I couldn't roleplay at all

Because you play as Geralt, not your character.

>>324390349

Nah, DD is fine. Only annoyance with it is the shitty NG+.

Oh, and instakills in hard-mode. Man, fuck Grigori in hard mode. I don't want to switch to normal because the XP and gold rewards are so shitty, but at the same time I hate getting instakilled like that when there's no proper dodge mechanic.
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>>324380871
Their best wasn't good enough
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>>324390349
Were you not here at all?
MGSV was shitposted by Underniggers that got BTFO because metacritic named MGSV it's GOTY.
Bloodborne was shitposted by Nintoddlers
And FO4 was just generally fucking shit.
And you're talking to someone who actually gives AAA titles a chance, unlike 90% of the faggot hipsters here.
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>>324390458
Oh, how could I forget.
You can do .gif related while the world is spinning with you so fast you're lucky if you can actually find your character.
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>>324390072
so instead of improving it they just dumbed it down

>was fucking stupid and required prior knowledge to utilize it effeciently

instead of using banham vision the way they did, why dont use it to analyze monster traces or footprints? that way you'll know which monster you'll have to face and which potions and decoctions to use.

or simply most of the times the contracts, or the commoners hiring you, will give you a vague description of the monster and the player can figure it out reading the bestiary.

there's a lot of potential, and a lot of improvements that dont cost too much to implement. the problem is you just want to hear how perfect tw3 is.
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>>324390314

Dank Souls 2 still makes me disgusted. I played it at release, and would get infuriated at enemies doing 180 degree turns mid swing. Literally mid swing, as the weapon was coming down, they would do about turns with their feet planted in the ground.

Yeah, I know that patches fixed it, and that the DLC made the world better, but the damage was done. I'm not getting Dank Souls 3 at release cause of it. Sides, nothing wrong with waiting 4 months then getting it at 75% discount on a steam sale.
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Hey, I hear some nigger said that TW3 combat was only about spamming light attack until oblivion. Here's a proof that it's wrong. You can also spam heavy attacks!
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>>324390681

That skill doesn't even work properly. Also, the griffins attacks are entirely unblockable and undodgeable.

fukkin shitter.
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>>324389449
Nice particle effects.
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>>324390334
Geralt of Rivia is a predefined character and the protagonist of a fucking book series, not an amnesiac blank slate like The Nameless One. What the fuck were you expecting?
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>>324390724
Except the actual gameplay.
>>324390776
>no proper dodge mechanic
The classes that dont have the dodge roll have moves that have I-frames within them, and a lot of the classes do have a proper dodge roll mechanic.
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>>324390857

To be honest it's my only gripe. I love everything about DS2, the better PC support, the more bonfires, fucking everything.

And then they made every enemy swivel around like that.
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>>324390763
You're literally doing that.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, 166>8.
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>>324390837
>artifical difficulty
>complain about Bloodborne graphics while prasing WiiU games

I swear it's someone from /v/
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>>324390976

I can't even get it to work. I press Shift but it does nothing, even with the core skill and all.
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>>324391050
Can't call it a false flag when he's been doing it for 2 years.
So he may be from /v/ but this is the genuine article.
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>DD has 9 vocations in comparison to TW3's one class
>somehow, each and every vocation in DD manages to be more fun than that one style of gameplay in TW3
And yet one game will sell 10 million and the other barely scratched two. Ain't nothing fair in this world.
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>>324380871
I pirated the game recently, I don't get how people would say the combat system is bad.
I guess most people who complain about it are the ones who got frustrated because they couldn't even get past the Royal Griffin.
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>>324390952
>>324390776
So we can agree that TW3 is a shit RPG, if not one at all, right?
Because at this level, even fucking Far Cry 3 is a RPG.
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>>324390079
Truth.

They have much lower standards and are easily impressed.
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>>324390976
see
>>324390017
>>324390458
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>>324391013
>>324390857

>I know that patches fixed it

Oh, and by the way, they haven't "fixed" that. They still home onto you like fucking tomahawks.
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>>324390837
>calls tlou "grim dark"
thats just some retard from here
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>>324390458
the climbing was kinda shit unless you were facing golems
>climb drake to hit its heart
>it flies up and you fall to your death

you can just sit there at their feet and mash buttons and its more effective than actually climbing them
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>>324391148
Because everyone has shit taste but you my special little snowflake.
Or, you can take this into account when you shit talk advertisement budgets.
Either way you either play ball or sell like shit.
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>>324391195
>So we can all agree that FF7 is a shit RPG, if not one at all right? There isn't even any dialogue options in it
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>>324391246
Who's been doing that shit for 2 years.
If he's false flagging he deserves to taken seriously if he's doing it for literal YEARS.
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>>324391167
>I guess most people who complain about it are the ones who got frustrated because they couldn't even get past the Royal Griffin.

that's why the game literally has a story only difficulty mode
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>>324391116
I don't know the controls for M/KB, but on a controller it always was R1 (stance/skills button) and A

Assassin, Ranger and Strider have them, some of the magic classes might have it too.
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>>324391309
FF7 is actually a shit RPG.
I don't even know why it's considered as one.
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>>324390892
you can avoid his charge and when he swoops in you can easily aard him and throw him to the ground for free hits and crit damage.

pathetic fool
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I tried liking this series but its too dialogue heavy. Having to spend 20 minutes talking to some dude about his marriage problems just so he'll admit he had a dead baby. Not hating on dialogue but this is just too much, and at times i really don't give a shit about a characters background, gime the shit I need to know so I can go kill monsters. but no, the game makes you have the conversations and if you try skipping through them too fast you'll fuck it up and then have to do some fetch bullshit for the character just so they aren't pissed at you anymore and are then willing to help so you can advance the story.

I mean if you really want to get invested in a game it might be nice but I just didn't care enough for any of it to try to get that invested.
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>>324391013
>To be honest it's my only gripe.

It had more but I'll be honest and admit that it is just my shit opinions on the matter. Only that other games do similar things better like; music, story, open world etc. so for a "Souls" game to falter in the bosses and combat departments leaves little for the game to shine on since "souls" game are pretty simple in nature.
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>>324390349
In reality:
>MGSV posters shitposted in Witcher 3 threads for months
>Fallout 4 fans shitposted in Witcher 3 threads for a few days pre release
>out of a suddenly Bloodborne shills start shitting in every single Witcher, probably because it just released a DLC.
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>>324391212
>opinions
okay anon, okay.
Come back when you actually come across something challenging.

Half of you faggots probably dont even know what BBI is.
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>>324391393
just let autists be autists dude. if all it takes to invalidate his 2 years of dedication is clicking on the "review history" button, then that just makes it funnier, whether hes a sony fanboy falseflagging or a genuine nintendo fanboy.
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>>324391195
Yes
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>>324389449
>>324390882
I remember threads yesterday where people said that Witcher has better combat than Bloodborne. Holy fuck
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>>324391546
>muh victim complex
Ever wonder why there's never shitposting between the games you mentioned? You never see say an MGS fanboy shitpost in Bloodborne threads. It all always comes back to the Witcher drones. Every fucking time. I guess part of it being since the games are so dry and shit that there's literally nothing to talk about but a circlejerk of blog GOTY awards.
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>>324391546
>Fallout 4 fans shitposted in Witcher 3 threads
That's not true. They flooded the front page, but they stayed in their own threads/

>Bloodborne shills
Bloodborne threads have been incessant ever since it released. There's more false-flag threads comparing it and W3 since the GOTY awards. You would have to be insanely dense to take them seriously.

>MGSV posters shitposted in W3 threads for months
This is correct.
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>>324391502
Fucking THIS

Jesus, if I wanted to read so much irrelevant and boring bullshit I'd just read books. Nobody fucking cares about some random NPCs problems.

The quest design doesnt help either when its mostly stuff like
>talk to dude for 5 minutes
>go find a clue (its highlighted in red lol)
>follow a literal breadcrumb trail to where you need to go (again highlighted lol)
>kill thing
>come back
>get money

Like wew lads, amazing quests.
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>>324391660
they're just bugs that got quickly fixed.
not my fault you pirated tw3 and never updated it, fucking scum
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>>324380871
I wouldn't go as far as to call it the best ever.
But compared to some modern games like Bloodborne it's a god's gift.

https://youtu.be/71TxHzx3NNc?t=52s
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>>324391660
Witcher shills are hilarious. I love just reading Witcher threads and seeing the amount off asspulls they use to justify their mediocre RPG games.

>TW1 is on par with MGS3

kek
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>same set of webms
>same set of arguments

Same autist at work.
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>>324391731
Dont forget waifufagging
The only threads I ever see about the witcher nowadays is
>trissfags lol
>yencucks, lol
or GOTY shitposting.
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>>324391195

Your choices have a great impact, it's a adult story and game treats you as one. Geralts choices all are in his character and what he would have done.

No, TW3 is a great RPG.

But the combat is shit.

>>324391502

Feel sorry for you, it's a great game. The Bloody Baron and his questlines are some of the best in the game, next to Witches of the Crookback Bog. Some of my friends could never get into Planescape for the same reason.

Of course, that, and the Infinity Engine.

>>324391731

>every shitpost is made by another fanbase!

Nigger, please. Everyone shitposts every now and then. Don't think too much about it, and don't "pick sides".
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>>324391776
>they're just bugs that got quickly fixed.

Source?
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>>324391731
>Ever wonder why there's never shitposting between the games you mentioned?
Are you joking? There's shitposting in every single thread on /v/.
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>>324390837
No, all of those games' threads were shitposted in by people who just use /v/ to shitpost. Mods are too scared to do anything significant on /v/ after the 'nazimod' era so dedicated retards can do whatever they like. (you can tell if you're an autistic neet like I am because they often use the same filenames ad infinitum, too)
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>Witcherfags' only line of defense is a pic with goty awards
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>>324391660
There was also a revelation that the most barebones weapon in Bloodborne (Ludwigs memeblade) has more moves than the entirety of Witcher 3s combat system

Just think about that.
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>>324391570
>it gets good 40 hours in
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>>324391502
at least im not alone.
last time i said that witcherdrones diagnosed me with add.

>>324391881
>Source?
dont have one, im just shitposting
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The combat is perfectly serviceable and fun at its best, but clunky at its worst. Basically, it's alright.
But naturally as it is with /v/ it's always one of two polar extremes; cue the immense butt hurt of both sides.
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>>324392032
>40 hours
Lol, okay.
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>>324381472
>Skyrim
>Good combat
Funny meme
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>>324391660
THIS IS GERALT, ARRIVING SHORTLY AT LZ
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>>324392032
It gets good by the time you unlock enough skills to go wild with each and every class. It's just that it takes a while for it to peak. That's not a bad thing. Not every game needs to be ADD bait.
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>>324391768
>>324391502
STOP PLAYING RPGS
for fucks sake are you retarded to play games that are not meant for you?
Dialogue IS rpg genre.

>so much irrelevant and boring bullshit I'd just read books
>irrelevant and boring bullshit
>books

and these people argue that tw is bad
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>>324392105
idk anon, we had witchershills saying their combat is better than DMC series
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>>324391951

It's a great game. If you would take a few seconds to take that cock out of your ass, you'd see it too. Past /v/ saw it in Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 but neo /v/ hates great open world games with fantastic stories it seems.

It sucks having been here for so long, and physically witnessing the change of /v/ with shitters like you.
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>>324392208
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Now this is what I called a moral choice in a video game.
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>>324392208
is there a lightsaber mod?
i need it
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>>324392105
>having "alright" combat for 50+ hours of game time is okay

See, the repetition makes it not "alright"
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anti TW3 shills have literally been at it for over a year
every single TW3 thread they do this, especially when a reasonably hyped game releases
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>>324392219
>"meme" actually in game, in addition to all the other actual memes in game

dropped
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>>324392208
STANDING
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>>324392327
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mad max has better combat then TW3
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>>324392327
EDGY MATURE POLACK WRITING FOR EDGY GAMERS SUCH AS MYSELF
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I haven't played the Witcher so I can't comment on how good the combat is but why the fuck does he twirl like that
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>>324392439
isn't it two years by now? and tw2 was shorter but no better

>comparing combat to demon souls
>boring dialogue
>memes in the game

I can't remember everything.
Reminds me when Bioshock and cod4 came out, people actually were saying cod4 was better game.
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>>324392610
>Bamham combat
You KNOW someone is desperate to shitpost when they're defending bamham combat.
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>>324392610
Is this Bloodborne 2?
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>>324392327
>mfw "IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRO"
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>>324392219
Someone modded Arya Stark into the game?
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>>324392731
I found BamHam combat to be more fun than TW3. Bamham knew it was a casual shit so instead it just made it fun with some stupid casual moves. TW3 thinks it's hot shit so you have gameplay made by devs with their heads so far up their own asses you can only smell the shit.
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>fighting in skellige
>some guy yells "you only live once" as his battle charge
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>>324392327
IN THE OVEN! THROW HIIM IN THE OVEN!
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>>324392691
casual filter skill, like quen
want to break the game - use it
like alchemy in TES games
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>>324392783
>One of the most interesting enemies in the game is getting shit on.
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>>324392610
>better animations
>better flow
>hitboxes are non fucked up
Yep, it wins.
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>>324392409

Plenty of other things to do beside combat. Story for example, and immersion.

Sure, *you* might not count them as gameplay mechanics, but Planescape is argued to be the best RPG of all time in many online polls, and it had atrocious combat yet a fantastic world, characters and story. Same thing with Morrowind.

Not every game was made for you, and not every game was made for me.

And this is fine.
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>>324392610

>Mash button
>Press other button to counter

I'm not seeing a difference. Witcher 3 had more ways to make combat tolerable, like magic, potions, ranged weapons and two different sword styles. Witcher 3 is a long game, and people inevitably get bored with mash X to win.

Taking other amazing mash X to win games like Beyonetta 2 or God Hand and anyone would be bored to death after 80hrs.
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>>324392610
>Batman combat
>Fun
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I just don't enjoy the game because of all the ridiculously tiny text. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>324392863
Yeah, someone that's shit at videogames is more able to enjoy a game where he can turn on a dime and get free iframes from hitting the dodge button.
Totally because TW3 had awful combat, which only autists here can rally behind.
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>>324392863
Care to explain why it's so shit, then?
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>>324393035
they want you to see all the glorious hair physics
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>>324392992
See, this fucking anon gets it
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>>324393035
They made them bigger in a patch a long time ago.
Did you try to update the game?
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Glad I never fell for the marketing jews and bought these shit games tbH
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can someone tell me what makes DD's combat better because I'm really failing to see it
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>"TW3 had shit combat! Everyone agrees"
>Point out GOTY awards
>"AD POPULUM THAT'S A FALLACY YOU LOSE"
The delusion is unrivaled.
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Great another comfy Witcher thread.

What members did you pick in the heist in the HoS?
I picked elve girl and the top cuck dwarf guy.
Does it have different outcome if you pick different guys?
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>>324390763
It was GOTY, it literally didn't have any serious competition
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>>324393172
This
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>>324393230
>game "journalists" shilling games
>their awards mean anything
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>>324380871
>The best combat for an open world game
>what is undertale
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>>324381736
I honestly think this is an early version of the game, because I did not have any issue with the hitdetection during this fight
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>>324393192
>smooth
>better hitboxes
>even warrior class doesn't feel as heavy as geralt
That's simply enough to tell why it is better than TW3.
Now I'm too lazy to explain why it stomps on TW3 in every way.
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>>324382002
This alone makes it better than the shitbox in Bloodborne.
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>>324393441
Then explain the userscore on metacritic?
It was able to survive all the faggots that tried to bomb it because of "muh downgrade"
Let me guess though, the user scores are shilled too because they don't agree with you?
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>>324393164
I downloaded the game when it was have price for that award show, so I think it should be updated.
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>>324393542
Did you post the wrong video?
Cause I only see 15 fps and clunky animations.
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>>324393542
lmao dude this looks like dmc 2

breddy bad
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>>324393565
At least play the games before you shitpost anon.
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Let's see
-Skyrim had better magic
-Skyrim had better combat
-Skyrim had better armor,weapon crafting
-Skyrim had better weapons craft
-Skyrim bows weren't shit
-Skyrim's horse combat was less awkward

Now
-Witcher 3 had a better story line
-Witcher 3 had better alchemy
-Witcher 3 had the toxic system that prevented potion whoring
-Witcher 3 Had better characters
-Witcher 3 had better monsters

Now both of them

-Skyrim and W3 both were cumfy as fuck
-Skyrim and W3 both had great music
Skyrim and W3 both had dumb terrible side games
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>>324393565
yep >>324381736
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>>324393542
yeah spamming blink strike is real smooth
if you can't actually explain then don't bother replying
it's amazing that you think that webm makes the combat look good
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>>324393689
>>324393772
(you)
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>>324393542
So basically most of the games people praised here for their combat are button smashing without much challenge?
Well I'm glad that I never take the opinions on /v/ serious.
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>>324393356

Halfing dude is sleeping with the fishes, so you can only get the elf.

The dorf blows up the door, and causes combat in the negotiations no matter what you do.

The other thief lockpicks the vault, and there is no combat with the guards, but instead you have to fight a whole bunch of spiders in the vault instead.

>>324393192

I enjoy DD's combat more because it's simpler and allows me to have fun without stunlocking me at every turn. Climbing monsters is also fun as hell, and the controls are tight as fuck and skill system really solid, even with a M&KB.

Combat doesn't have to be super advanced in order to have fun anyway.
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>>324393816
THIS
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>>324380871
>praising AssCreed: BamHam-Spam2Wham EZ gameplay
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>>324391817
How are u still this mad about MGSV? I mean u can play the old ones if u want, unless only thing quenching your but hurt is shitpostin then I understand
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>>324392208

>Playing on lowest difficulty
>Enemies dont counter you

Trolling meant some thing back in the days
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>>324393542
>>324393884
No, seriously, why are you posting these boring fights with the brainless postgame guards instead of a griffin or ogre fight?
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>>324393870
>it's amazing that you think that webm makes the combat look good
Yeah, but you absolute fucktard, the point wasn't to prove that the combat was good but better than TW3.
Just look at the original post.
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>>324393542
the only saving grace of DD is its magicks
other than that its fucking boring and the climbing mechanic isn't even that useful
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>>324391849
It's not shitpostin when it's true anon it did win GOTY
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>>324393542
This looks like one of those Dynasty Warriors games.
Do people really enjoy them that much? I find them quite boring.
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>>324394053
>griffin
Like that one?
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>>324393884
woah spamming knockdown skills on enemies that don't even attack you!
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>>324380871
When Geralt and the elf go on the trip, how many PUs do they move?
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>>324393884

>Sword from enemy hits you through your fucking body
>LOL DOESNT MATTER BECAUSE I'M CHARGING MAH SUPER ATTACK

Mustard race must be starving for games because DD was medicore at best and this is just another proof how painful medicore the game is
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>>324394142

Kind of, it's a mix. Enemies are more dangerous in DD though, especially lategame, and even more so in Hard Mode, so there aren't as many enemies on screen.
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>>324393002
>get bored with mash X to win
good thing it's not like that then, right?

i guess there is no way to kill this meme at this point, it's like nobody played the game
nobody talks about positioning, about two types of dodges that work better than bloodborne btw if you do not try to use it like in bloodborne
nobody talks about how fighting styles progress with new recipes, bombs, enemy types
being crowded by bandits is different to being crowded by sirens or drowners
posting webms in story mod difficulty, sure, nobody knows that on anything above normal whirl gets countered by anything except dogs
nobody posts noonwraith webms because they are decently hard to beat
everyone complaining about combat trying to play it like darksouls - it is not the same game stop comparing it to MGR,Bayo,BB,DMC = games with the same combat - it is different, it takes time to learn
i'm not saying its better or worse - it is different
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>>324394221
>on enemies that don't even attack you!

Are we talking about DD or Witcher now?
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>>324394186

I fought 6 griffiths until i decided that the game is boring as fuck.
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>>324393978
>he other thief lockpicks the vault, and there is no combat with the guards, but instead you have to fight a whole bunch of spiders in the vault instead.
Not sure if that's a good thing.
The acrobatic elf chickened away half way through.
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>>324393542
Looks like DMC,enemy attack fly through you ,you teleport all over the place with blink strike and hit them when they fall over u til they run out of hp. Such combat
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>Witcher 3 is a fun game
>Best open world in a decade
>Best story, that completes what 2 prior games and 10 years of work lead up to
>Beautiful women lusting after your cock and multiple whores in game
>Doesn't shy away from liberals trying to shit on it, defends PC gaming
>Does the best it can with action based combat
>Sold at multiple discounts, with Expansions that are bigger and have more content than other AAA releases
>Still gets shit posted

GRASPING AT STRAWS.
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>>324394314

>nobody posts noonwraith webms because they are decently hard to beat

Regular wraiths are far worse.

Like, what the fuck were the devs snorting when they designed them.
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>>324394325
You are literally posting webms of the castle guards that will throw one attack an hour at you if they're lucky.
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>>324394325
it's in your fucking webm's dude
they're just running around and not attacking
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>>324394186
>that UI
What the fuck? It's literally covering 3/4 of the screen.
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>>324393884
Witchershills probably dont even know whats going on in those webms anon, its a waste of time.
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>>324394432
>defends PC gaming
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>>324393572
>>324393572
>>324393572
>>324393572
>>324393572
Answer me senpai.
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>>324394346
i wish there was a giant monster that you had to go into to hit its weak spot or something like that, the game is great when you first encounter them but gets boring after the 30th time you kill a cyclops or ogre while trekking through the land getting mobbed by low level bandits, wolves and goblins
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>>324394556

As someone who likes both games, I'm insulted.
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>>324385707
>people actually think dragon's dogma has good combat
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>>324394461
dodge
train on humans, if you can dodge humans 8 of 10 normal wraith are easy
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>>324394186
It's better but the one shots from arc of deliverance or grand bolide or whatever are way less interesting than actual combat with the beasts where you have to actively participate.
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>>324394556
>bawwww witchershills stop bullying me!! This is a hate free neogaf board stop making fun of me!
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>>324394548
It's not my webm and I'm not this guy, but clearly enemies attack character unlike here >>324392208
>>324389449

Are you blind?
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>>324392304
>fantastic story
>mediocre combat
>you spend 85% of the game in combat

hmmm I wonder why people are saying its not as great as you claim it is
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>>324392304
The first time I went on /v/ was about Jan of '12.
I remember there actually being videogame discussions that were actually fun to join in on, because people had actual debates.

Now, it's just shitflining, namecalling and fanboys filling up the pages with rhetoric that would make any english teacher scream in agony.
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>>324394556
what do you suppose to know? how to spam burst strike?
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>>324394432
It got popular, what did you expected?
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>>324392327
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>>324394704
But human enemies don't teleport behind you.
Also they oven come in a pack, if you try to isolate them they would just run away.
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>>324394704

>getting gangbanged by wraiths
>dodge
>as soon as one faggot ghost is finished his spin stunlocking you, another one literally teleports behind, unzips dick, and does the same

No.

No, anon.

No, fuck wraiths. You need super reflexes or some shit.
>>
Is it possible to play as the woman with white hair in this game?
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>>324394767
I think NeoFag is the only place that likes Witcher 3 considering that it's a non-game intended for fucktards who don't enjoy games and just want to "experience a story".
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>>324394586

Problem?
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>>324394787
the enemies are clearly not attacking (at least anywhere near as much as they should)
you are literally just lying at this point
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>>324394645
Just look at these 2 faggots
>>324394548
>>324394495
the webms show the guy doing one of the moves with built in i-frames that only last for like 2 or 3 frames.
So no, you faggots dont know about the game enough to shitpost about it.
>>324394767
What are you, fucking 12 years old or something?
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>Webm guy posts a game he likes
>Combat is literally just hitting a bunch of walking punching bags.
I will remember that.
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>>324394461
>>324394919
>>324394953
Yrden! Trap it with Yrden!
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>>324394852

HAHA

OH MAN

That's what /v/ said about /v/ in 2007.

AND THE CYCLE OF SHITPOSTING CONTINUES.
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There is no hope of contrarians shitposting about anything popular ever stopping, is there.
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>>324394957
You play as her in some parts, but most of them is pretty bad.
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>>324394978
fun fact, when DAI was announced they promised action combat
i am still dissapointed
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>>324392674
It was just a prank bro
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>>324394984
Yes they do, he even parry one of their attacks, are you baiting or serious?
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>>324392327
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YIpKJGhAFM
>threw baby in oven
>pushed the guy down
>locked it tight with quen
Holy shit my sides, what an asshole Geralt.
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>>324395104
Success breeds jealousy anon.
Same reason people shitposted MGSV.
Wasn't a bad game, but since it didn't make Jesus weep everyone dogpiled it.
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>>324394978
after the console parity and dropping redkit2?
what does your pic has to do with pc gaming?
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>>324391468
so, if a RPG has a MC with a defined personality it's not a RPG?
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>>324395104
Nope. 4chan was built by and will be destroyed by shitposting.
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>>324395223
>that scream
His reaction is fucking gold.
They must have some great animators.
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>>324395197
they attack nowhere near as often as they should
there are plenty of times when they're behind him and they do nothing or they just sprint around like brainless chickens
literally all the low level enemies are like this too
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>>324393542
I love DD but holy shit if you think this webm makes it look good you're delusional. I'm new to the game and even I could make something way more flattering.
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>>324395379
>they attack nowhere near as often as they should

They should just stay still like in Witcher?
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>>324384910
I feel the same way, I spent several hours on a gang of ghoul that would regenerate faster than I could kill them, so I would use some decoction that made me make more damages the more I hit them without getting hit. It was pretty fun but it's pointless to try to discuss these games on /v/. I just talked about it on /vg/ after I finished the game and then moved on
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>>324395379
bandits try to swarm sometimes
group combat is shit in DD, it's only worth is big monsters but then it gets down to finding weak spot-climbing-hitting until dead
>console exclusives never again
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>>324395023

>Just look at these 2 faggots

Well, who cares? Let them shitpost. I fucking love TW3, and I find DD to be really fun. Combat doesn't need to be super deep or require superhuman reflexes or skill in order to be good. Sometimes, it just needs to be fun. Some people find that fun in combat that requires a bit more of players, and some find it in less.

Why are you letting random strangers on the Internet ruin your day?

>>324395104

Then they wouldn't be a contrarian, now would they? I'm not going to lie, I am one myself, but I've been noticing it lately and trying to stop because it's propblably annoying as hell to people I meet.
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>>324395448
why are you bringing up other games?
but yes staying till makes far more sense than running around aimlessly
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>>324395223
oh sweet jesus it's fucking real holy fuck
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>>324395023
I've played it to near completion and I'm not even criticizing the game, just your retarded webm choice. The postgame guards are some of the easiest enemies in the game besides fucking goblins and bunny rabbits. It doesn't matter if he's broad slashing out of occasional slow as fuck telegraphed attacks, it's never going to be as impressive as taking down a chimping out elder ogre or the like.
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>Bloodborne
26 weapons with 2 forms, totalling 52 weapons
16 off hand weapons, guns, flamethrowers, fists, miniguns, cannons
8 arcane spells
Every weapon has over 15 unique attack animations
blood gems affect how weapons act a lot, and can change elements entirely
Weapons behave differently if you're locked on or locked off

Bosses have dynamic phases
Bosses have dynamic combos they can cancel or continue, depending on your positioning
Bosses have dynamic music.

>witcher 3
2 swords, with around 30 variants with varying stats.
5 magic spells
Crossbows

Wew lads.
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>>324395223
I'M NUCLEAR
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>>324381472
Objectively wrong Sen pai. Skyrims combat arguably isn't even gameplay.
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>best combat in an open world except Dragon's Dogma
>implying Dragon's Dogma has good combat

Dogma is fun as fuck but the combat is pretty basic and mashy.

xenoblade x has the best combat in an open world game that's come out recently but everyone on /v/ is too casual to play a non-action rpg
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Just started hearts of stone, this game is goty despite the combat
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>>324395686
STOP IT
STOP
ITTTTTTTTTT
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>324395670
If you got a ps4 you can play both, whats the problem?
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>>324395670
I think BB has better combat but this post is ridiculous
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>>324395314
No. Your character is defined in Mass Effect, and it's still more a RPG than TW3.
Your character is defined on Planescape: Torment and it's still one of the games who push roleplaying to another level.
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>>324395646
I didn't make those webms, I just pointed out how ignorant people were.
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>>324395270

Yeah, that was a shame, but the game was great regardless. CD Projekt Red promised too much and wasn't able to deliver.

I'm not mad they had to cut corners, only disappointed. Witcher 3 was a hell of a ride, and I enjoyed it, a fucking lot. However, that doesn't mean I'll ignore correct points, like the ones you made. I just can't seem to work up the fucks to care.

>B-b-b-b-ut muh entitlement

Red Engine 1 for Witcher 2 came out a full two years and a game overhaul later. Keep bitching about mods though, I want them too and believe you're justified. I'm just too mature to keep bitching about something I have no control over. Tell you what anon, you can be my asshole for me, that talks shit on my behalf.
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>>324395686
The combat isn't even bad
Turning off most of the hud helps
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>>324386175
bb does, but that isn't open world
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>>324392165
What's wrong with Skyrim combat?
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>>324395670
Too bad in Bloodborne the combat all boils down to "prss R1 3 times" or "Hold R2 than R1 for awesome takedown".
What a wasted potential. I didn't use anything other than the Ludwig's Holy Blade.
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>>324395448
except they don't do that in witcher
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>>324395670
You're comparing a game with a lot of simpler movesets to a game with a single more complex moveset. I love both, but they're really not competing.
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>>324395863

>and it's still more a RPG than TW3.

Eh, they're both RPGs. ME and DA lets you make *your* character, whereas TW lets you make Geralts choices.

They're both roleplaying games, but different.

This is fine.
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>>324395857
How so?
>>324395828
Because why would I play a game with inferior combat to something I already have?
A game that to this day still runs like absolute dogshit on PS4, even with the numerous patches the "based" CDPR pumped out.
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The funny thing about the Witcher 3 is that it makes me miss the Witcher 2 combat. The soft locking and pace of fighting was much better
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>>324396035

>Because why would I play a game with inferior combat to something I already have?

Because there's more to a game than fucking combat?
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>>324392327

I never doubted my waifu Cerys
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>>324396035
>A game that to this day still runs like absolute dogshit on PS4
Oh my fucking god.
You get a silky smooth 15 fps in both games, what's the problem?
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>>324395223
Goddamn, geralt looks beautiful with that hair

Which style is that one?
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>>324395952
Ludwigs holy blade in itself has more moves than the entirety of the Witcher 3s combat system anon.
The fact that you played like a boring fuck doesnt make the combat bad.
>>324395990
>simpler movesets
>when one weapon has more moves than the entire other game in its combat mechanics
2 swords
2 fucking swords

no axes, no halberds, no spears, no nothing.
2 swords, with the same exact movesets.

Really anon, really?
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>>324391546
>MGSV posters shitposted in Witcher 3 threads for months
yep, I very much remember this. and then MGSV came out and the same people shitposted MGSV even though it turned out a decent game even without meeting the expectations. /v/irgins are the most retarded demographic I can think of
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>>324396275
>no axes, no halberds, no spears, no nothing.
>2 swords, with the same exact movesets.

Because Witchers are trained as masters of sword. They don't use other weapons, because they don't really need them.
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>>324380871
Let me just speak in this raspy voice and insert sex everywhere BECAUSE THIS GAME IS SO ADULT and shit and jump and roll and spin all over the place like a retard on blow oh and more edgy grey GRITTY themes and sex, cause we're soo adult, stuffed pony raspy voice grimdark teenage power fantasy GOTY
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>>324380871
>dodge attacks
>still get hit

Combat is bullshit and is only fun against huge bosses.
When you are outnumbered you get easily fucked at early levels.
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>>324396225
Dante style
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>>324396530
Sounding dangerously progressive here anon.
In real life adult shit happens, sorry your parents took the game from you.
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>>324395889
>Keep bitching about mods though

im not bitching though. pre-release they were promising to deliver with the redkit2, but they dropped it to work on the dlcs.
that's known fact, you can google it, its on their forum as well.

btw, that passive-agressive attitude of yours is not helping you. you're taking everything as a personal criticism, that pic shows it.
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>>324396169
>playing video games for a story
What are you, a faggot?
>>324396224
Not in Bloodborne you don't.
No matter how much you meme around it, the game runs fine on 30 FPS

Meanwhile the witcher 3 drops to the low 20s everytime you go through areas with a horse, and the swamps drop to the 10s
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>>324396118
Witcher 3's combat is objectively better but I like than there are more human enemies and mages in Witcher 2.
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>>324395957
Except they do
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>>324396035
>26 weapons with 2 forms, totalling 52 weapons
yeah no, there are 26 weapons, having different forms does not make it a new weapon
>16 off hand weapons, guns, flamethrowers, fists, miniguns, cannons
many of which are exactly the same moveset wise, if TW3 has only 2 swords then all pistols should be counted as the same
>blood gems affect how weapons act a lot, and can change elements entirely
that's ridiculous and you know it
they don't change how weapons act at all and TW3 also has weapon runes which function almost exactly the same
TW3 also has
>diverse and upgradable bombs that can be turned into cluster bombs
>all spells have a secondary function and are also upgradable
>enchantments can dramatically alter how you perform in combat
>new sword moves can be learned
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>>324396752
>Not in Bloodborne you don't.
Don't make me hop on youtube just for one video anon.
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>>324396520
>having repetitive, shallow combat with the same weapons for 50+ hours is okay because muh lore and muh story
Why do you even play video games.
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>>324395889
>you can be my asshole for me

n-no thanks
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>>324394953
>wraiths
>you need superhuman reflexes

i didn't know dead cats posted on 4chan
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>>324396851
>>324396520
you guys know gerald can equip axes right
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>>324395670

>Doesnt mention that the spells can actually improve with every level you skill
>Mentiones off hand weapons as something special but doesnt mention that all of them are nearly the same except for the damage

>Weapons behave differently if you're locked on or locked off

Now making shit up

>Bosses have dynamic phases

Witcher too in some fights

>Bosses have dynamic combos they can cancel or continue, depending on your positioning

Same for Witcher

>Bosses have dynamic music.

Same for Witcher who had better music overall

>26 weapons with 2 forms, totalling 52 weapons

Most of them have the same attack pattern

I swear BB faggots are so retarded holy shit
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>>324396547
Get gud. Group management has always been the tactic that Witcher combat is centered around. All 3 games feature this.
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>>324396530
The funny thing is Witcher 3 is one of the most light heart and funny game I've played.
https://youtu.be/pQYlKTvK8wA?t=1m53s
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>>324396951
No
I haven't played it
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>>324396996
30-40fps with 1 guy on screen
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>>324396996
Is this your video? I think I remember that voice from somewhere on 4chan
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>>324396721
>btw, that passive-agressive attitude of yours is not helping you. you're taking everything as a personal criticism, that pic shows it.

That's how oldfags taught me to type when I was new here. Typing in a passive aggressive manner is the only way I know how to type. I'm too old to change my ways. You're better than me, don't commit the same mistakes I have. Learn from me, little brown.
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>>324395863
>Planescape: Torment and it's still one of the games who push roleplaying to another level.
>start with wis 18 (all other stats don't matter)
>read text
>win game
truly the next step in role playing games

if you want to praise pst writing it's ok (even if mostly amounts to "the d&d monster manual says normally this race is like X, but this character is the opposite. wow!" ) but please don't pretend it's any more of an rpg than a random japanese vn
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>>324396843
Yeah, dont make me do that either.
The videos DigitalFoundry made of Bloodborne were in the first area of the game, and they also did it while in a co-op session. The framerate istable and runs fine

The videos they made of Witcher 3 were solo play on the newest patches, and it was substantially worse.
>>324396838
The 2 forms of a weapon all act completely differently, but I guess I agree with your point.
>all pistols should be counted as the same
Theres more to it than that, but its still more than anything in Witcher 3
>they dont change how weapons act
They do in terms of damage and resistances.

>diverse and upgradable bombs
BB has molotovs, poison knives, throwing knives, luring items, shaman bone blades
>all spells have a secondary function and are also upgradable
Spells are upgradable in BB as well from ARC scaling, but they dont have secondary functions, no.
>enchantments can dramatically alter how you perform in combat
And so can Runes or blood gems
>new sword moves can be learned
And BB still has more moves without having to learn moves.
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>>324396851

Sounds like BB actually because 95% of the weapons in the game are actually useless-
Shallow combat is the argument against Bloodborne by the way:

>See enemy
>Approach
>Attack
>Step back
>Wait for him to make one of his 2 attacks he has
>He attacks
>Attack him
>Repeat ad infinitum

Fight with Geralt
>Approach Enemy
>Read up upon his in the Bestiarium
>Know he is weak against fire
>Equip Igni and some gasbombs
>He attacks me i roll aside
>throw gasbomb
>Bomb explodes
>Cast Igni
>Explosion
>Monster is thrown back
>Time to attack
>Attack him
>Monster gets up attack me
>Jump out of range
>Throw bomb
>Monster evades
>Attack him monster actually blocks my attack and throws me 4 meters back where i'm staggered
>nearly die
>Take potion to get back my health up
>Equip Yrden to cast a spell where i can trap the monster to attack it longer
>cast YRDEN
>Lure monster inside the circle

I see what the better game is Anon
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>>324396680
Exactly, in real life.
Who needs that shit forced into a videogame all the time because who gives a fuck about pixel sex honestly unless you're a sex starved pimpley fuck it gets boring and cringey, just like the combat. Does that bother you ?
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>>324396996
>NOT FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT

READ THE GOD DAMN LINES THEY GIVE YOU SHITTER
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>>324392219
I didn't say the game was bad. I just said it wasn't my cup of tea. I don't mind dialogue I said that also in that post. its just the witcher pushes a shit ton of it and a lot of it feels completely irrelevant to what I came to that person to talk about.
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>>324397296
You're actually a fucking idiot, and it's painful to watch.
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>>324396996
ron perlman is in witcher 3?
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>>324396953
>now making shit up
If you're locked on and do a sidestep or a backstep, your weapon gets new moves coming out of the step.
>most of them have the same attack pattern
Now youre making shit up.
>>324397324
>doesnt take into account multiple enemies
>doesnt take into account highly aggressive enemies
>doesnt take into account bosses

>implying you cant do all this shit in Witcher 3 as well
Bullshit.
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>>324396275
This isn't true at all, for any given 'equip' in Bloodborne you will have less distinct combat actions to take than you will in the Witcher 3. I don't even know why it's an issue, TW3 is focusing on recreating how an exact character would fight as well as it can, and Bloodborne (like all souls games) is trying to have a variety of distinct and interesting movesets to play with. You can't have both, but you don't need to have both.
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>>324397323
>The 2 forms of a weapon all act completely differently
no they don't
Tonitrus literally just applies a buff, same goes for Boom Hammer and Stakedriver
>They do in terms of damage and resistances.
they change damage values and type, they have no impact on the how the weapon actually acts
>BB has molotovs, poison knives, throwing knives, luring items, shaman bone blades
doesn't come close to TW3's bombs
>And so can Runes or blood gems
not to the level of TW3's enchantments (make you immune to arrows, increase your sword range etc) with exceptions for the runes that transform you

you know you can like BB without trying to sell me it and making TW3 look like a pile of shit via lying through your teeth, I already said BB has better combat
I've played and loved both, TW3 is the better game though
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>>324397701
>doesnt take into account multiple enemies

Actually you can confront every single enemy in BB alone by luring them away

>doesnt take into account highly aggressive enemies

Not existing

>doesnt take into account bosses

Work the same fuckig way

>implying you cant do all this shit in Witcher 3 as well

Actually yes
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yen or triss?
>>
The bread and butter gameplay of the witcher 3 is utter crap. Every quest is the same fucking shit. Listen to dialogue and wait to see how that conversation can be boiled down into walking a straight line down what is essentially a black corridor until you find a glowing yellow pile of shit that geralt talks to. The story is interesting, i dont even find the combat to be particularly terrible. The core gameplay however is 0/10. What you literally spend your time dojng in that game isnt the slightest bit fun. It is a chore to play and as a fan of the previous game I hate that. What I dont understand is that /v/ the kings of shitting on devs for wanting a bigger audience gives cd projekt a pass for passing up their core audience at part fucking 3 of a series to make an assassins creed clone.
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>>324398091
Doll! Doll is best waifu!!!!!
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>>324397882
Tonitrus and Boom Hammer get bonus elementals, but I can agree
Stakedriver does act differently though.
>damage values and type
Fair enough, its still a difference.
>doesnt come close
More items with more variety doesnt come close to bombs?

>TW3 is a better game though
>the game with worse gameplay is the better game
Oh okay, I think we're done here then.
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Summary of every Witcher thread

>witcher is posted
>soulsfags shit post
>awards are posted
>soulsfags rage
>hurr same weapons over and over in a game where witchers use swords only by lore
>hurr my hit boxes despite thousands of people playing the game just fine
>hurr glitches (100% accurate, plenty of bugs in the game)
>this continues forever
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>>324380871
But Witcher isnt open world its linear as fuck.

At least 2 is.
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>>324398162
this 2bh
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>>324398041
>luring them away
No you can't, some places simply have more than 1 or 2 enemies that you have to deal with at the same time, like the church in Old Yharnam or the Shadows fight for example.
>not existing
Oh, so you dont know shit about the game then?
>work the same fucking way
What fucking way?
Do you have any idea what the fuck youre saying?
You cant just go
>lol, let me just hit you and back off
you have to time your attacks, think of the range, think of the timing for your dodge because bosses have multiple-hit attacks, and so on.
>actually yes
So why did you bullshit me with that shit list of a billion different, unnecessary steps you take in fighting one fucking monster with predictable stupid AI that loops itself endlessly?
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>>324398210
yes there is more to a game than combat
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>>324398137
>assassins creed clone
I hate the game too but thats too far.
It still handholds you a lot and the quest design is horrible, but its not AC-tier bad.
Yet anyway.
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>>324398320
2 is very linear. OP is talking about 3, which is very open world
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>>324398137
I enjoy this meme too.
>>
I want to love Ciri
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>>324398306
more like
>witchershill starts thread with shitposting (like here)
>other people list their pics and opinions for a better alternative
>witchershills think everyone whos shitting on the game are simply wrong and that the combat is great, flawless and without anything to criticize
>start posting about GOTY awards, because now they matter for some reason.
>>324398551
If a game has bad gameplay, its a bad game.
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>>324380871
Agreed. Only casuals don't like the combat in Witcher 3.
Good thing is that they can turn on "Tell me a story" mode and still enjoy the RPG elements outside of the combat.
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>>324398615
I would go as far as saying that ubi does eagle vision better than cd projekt does WITCHER VISION
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>>324398306
This is actually getting hilarious honestly
The same threads happened every day and you can almost tell which guy is which by their writing style. After a while it's always the same 5 familiar guys in the threads
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The game has amazing characters, if you dont play w3 because of some /v/ contrarians memes you'll miss out.
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>>324399058
Oh, you mean the Batman Detective Mod- oh riiiight, the "witcher senses"..... riiiiight...
>>
How could anyone actually have fun playing the wither 3?
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>>324398848
>If a game has bad gameplay, its a bad game.
Totally agree. I guess that's why we love Witcher 3 so much, because it's actually focused on fun and entertaining gameplay instead of a grimdark walking simulator.
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>>324399165
>mfw I liked the Bloody Baron questline more than the main quest
Maybe it's because I just now finished doing the Novigrad stuff, but damn it really hasn't been up to par with that.
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>>324399165
What is stopping me from just watching a no-commentary lets play on youtube and experiencing the characters like that?
Why should I cough up 60 yuros just to experience a story?

Not a single story in video games is worth 60 yuros.
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>>324399410
bloody baron was a good quest. I also liked the dandelion quest chain as well.
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>>324399335
>grimdark walking simulator
At least play the games before you shitpost anon.
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>>324399424
Just get it on sale you dingus, it's been down to $30 or less multiple times this year. If you're looking for excuses to pirate things, nothing is gonna stop you from doing that anyway. You're just trying to stirr up shit and talk about the justifications of pirating X game.
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>>324399335
>Witcher 3
>Not a walking simulator
Pick one
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>>324399410
The Bloody Baron is over rated.
I enjoy the questlines in Skellige better, probably because I love the nordic setting.
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>>324399553
I've barely set foot into Skellige, in fact that's what I'm doing next.
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>>324399424
its a game, it has lots of things in it. the characters and writing is where the game peaks simply.
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>>324399242
I wonder if the game would still be a steaming pile of shit if they took that out. Like maybe the devs would have realized every quest is the exact same shit
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>>324399694
From what I've seen in this thread alone, the gameplay doesnt seem to be worth my time, and buying a game just because of a story is as pointless as buying movies nowadays.
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>>324399424
I guess it'd be alright to watch those linear cinematic games like dark souls on youtube because it'd be more or less the same experience. You can even smash your PS4 controller while watching it to pretend you're playing the game.
For games like Witcher with a bunch a choices and optional quest lines every playthrough would be vastly different. By just watching some guy playing you'd miss a lot of shit, or even an entire area in Witcher 2 case.
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>>324399820
I dont think they had the imagination to make quests that worked without that retarded ability.
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>>324399635
>played for 50 hours, doing a bunch of shit in Novigrad
>got to Skellige
>an entire fuck huge map of islands with completely differer setting and characters.
This shit blown my mind.
What other games do the same thing?
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>>324399919
It's not. Don't even pirate it. The game is a complete waste of time
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>>324399919
IF the gameplay is actually bad would it get all the gotys and 95% positive user rating on steam.
The gameplay is good and combat animations are fantastic, fluid and seamless. Its fun to watch.
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>that guy who comes into Witcher threads every single day to talk to himself while everyone else is discussing the game
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>>324399932
>trying this hard
wew lad
>bunch of choices
what interesting gameplay anon! choosing text options and pressing a button to hear it be said out loud!
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>>324400365
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>>324400297
Com' on. Don't disturb his samefag routine. That guy just needs some alone time.
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It's funny watching anti Witcher shitters get btfo by the gotld tier combat and writing . Seriously it's like Ninja Gaiden Black fucked Planescape and Alpha Protocol yet it manages to sufpass all of them.
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>>324400297
>positive reviews
>popularity=good game

Okay anon, okay.
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Dragons dogma combat is great

Witcher 3 is trash, its just better than the other trash
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>>324400297
You know /v/ is grasping for straws when it starts citing good reviews and mountain dew awards
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>>324400297
>bad games don't get good scores
Wow this is neo /v/
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>>324400807
>>324400647
when people have discussions with you irl do they slap you in the face often?
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>>324400365
Everyone who says bad things about Witcher is just lying
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Honestly I feel like TW3 garnered so much praise that /v/ decided it needed to be shit on to prove the normies wrong. There's not much wrong with the game but its combat is standard. Not great not bad.

But seeing a weakness in an acclaimed game, they used it to invalidate everything else. It's easy too, you don't need to make a proper critique, just say the combat is awful
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>>324400297
It's funny to watch the samefager grasping the straw everytime he got BTFO by an argument.

>gameplay is great
>that's not gameplay!
>gameplay is shit
>it's just too hard for you!!
>game has good reviews
>review don't matter!! it's paid review!!
>game has shit reviews
>haha confirmed for flop blunder of the century
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>>324382002
>tripfag

opinion = discarded
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>>324401112
Yeah it's all contrarian haters. Witcher is objectively great
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>>324380871
when will this meme dragons dogma has good combat end?
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>>324385318
Both of them have shit combat though
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>>324383562
metal gear solid 5
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>>324396953
>Now making shit up

No, it's true

>Witcher too in some fights

which ones?

>Same for Witcher

False

>who had better music overall

My opinion is fact

>Most of them have the same attack pattern

Every single weapon in Bloodborne have different moveset with different speed, range and power.

Literally I'm making things out of my ass the post.
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>>324401112
>/v/ decided it needed to be shit on to
It's just the same one or 2 guys. After like the 6 months shitposting everyone can tell them by just looking at their lazy reposting.
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>>324401275
I don't know about objectively great but it was a strong game in most regards
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>>324401325
As soon as the meme that Witcher is good ends :^)
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>>324401384
It's objectively strong
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>>324401106
I like to see people shitting on the game with legit arguments because it just generates more discussion of the game, but when every post is like in this thread it's just shitposting.
At least write some more original posts if you don't want it to be that obvious.
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>>324401112
>admits the combat is standard, not great not bad
>yet it's still acclaimed

it's acclaimed for being standard and not being special whatsoever, there were much better games released in 2015 yet its being pushed as the best one solely because it was marketed so well and everyone bought into it
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>>324401651
We have .webms of shit combat and you deny them. There is no convincing delusional people
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>>324401093
No, do they slap you for being a fucking retard who thinks popularity = quality?
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>>324380871
>The best combat for an open world
>The best combat
>The best combat
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>>324401847
>the same 5 webms where the player glitched the game with weird speed and shit
Yeah very convincing, I now start to puke when ever someone mention the game and my finger involuntarily start to type how witcher is shss-s-
WITCHER IS SHIT!
WITCHER IS SHIT!
WITCHER IS SHIT!
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>>324401792
It had a good open world with lots of content, voice acting and strong writing. The combat pales in comparison to dragons dogma or souls but excels over other open world rpgs.

People were praising skyrim when it came out and look at this game compared to TES5. It helps put into perspective why tw3 was such a big deal.

Combat may have been standard but nothing else about it was, ever other aspect was great. And even at the end of the day the combat is still enjoyable
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>>324401112
I think some posters just picked up their memes from TW2 and keep trying to force them. I mean, the two things I see the most in shitpost threads is that 3 has shit combat and that it's grimdark and edgy. It's obvious neither apply if you've played it but they definitely do to 2.
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>>324401792
Only big name games released in 2015 that is better is bloodborne and mh4.

Just because better games come out doesn't invalidate this one. What do you care about goty for anyway?
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>>324401112
This, even if you don't like the game you can at least acknowledge the amount of work they put into the game. If you looked at the first Witcher in 2007 no one would have believed you if you said that a no name studio would be able to make one of the biggest games of 2015.
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>>324397557
>memegame gets btfo
>anon triggered
pottery
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>>324401957
Close to 28k people wrote a positive review about w3 on steam, 28k individuals whose opinion has more weight as they provenly own the game vs you. Popularity is popularity and you're part of the very, very, very small minority.
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>>324402730
Then I guess CoD is amazing since well over 2 million normies praise it every year
Or maybe TLOU, a game that won even more GOTY awards than the W3?
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>>324401957
Do you even know what percentage is?
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>>324402250
>WITCHER IS SHIT!
>WITCHER IS SHIT!
>WITCHER IS SHIT!
Wow I never triggered somebody online before
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>>324402316
Witcher 3 does have shit combat. It's trying to be Dark Souls and Asscreed but fails to surpass either
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I like witcher and bb and dd and don't think they should really be compared. the systems work well within their own envirronments.
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>>324402730
By that logic I hope you gave undertale a chance before immediately shitting on because your /v/ told you to.
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>>324403350
Sorry anon I don't play meme games made by Tumblr that aren't even games
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>>324403339
I agree, they're really dissimilar, people are really apt to compare any 3d action game that comes out nowadays to souls for whatever reason.
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>>324402989
CoD is amazing game for the people who are its target audience. TLOUS is an exclusive so I dont see how its relevant.
>>324403350
Undertale is a good game. I played it because its ost was so good.
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>resorting to false flagging because you got btfo
Worse than ruggarell honestly.
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Dragon's Dogma has much better combat, though. Witcher 3's combat is horrible.
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I hate Witcher but I honestly don't think the combat is bad.
I like the combat system in BB more because it's more arcadey fun where you can smash through your way mindlessly.
Witcher 3 combat is more strategic based that requires more precise timing to dodge and attack.
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>>324403443
Yeah no red lines telling you where to walk, no tactical eagle vision either. Those 30,000 positive reviews too.

Close to 30k people wrote a positive review about undertale on steam, 30k individuals whose opinion has more weight as they provenly own the game vs you. Popularity is popularity and you're part of the very, very, very small minority.
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>>324402284
>The combat pales in comparison to dragons dogma or souls but excels over other open world rpgs.
I'd agree with DD, but souls games are too simplistic, I think.
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>>324403641
I just dont see whats so fucking good about DDs combat. you just blink around
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>combat is worse then Dragon's dogma
true
>combat is worse then souls series
true

so, assuming we accept dark souls as even being in the same genre as witcher 3 (it isn't, but okay), from what I see in this thread this mean witcher 3 has the third best combat from an open world fantasy rpg game.

>fallout 4
first of all, fallout 4 combat is terrible. Second of all, it's an open world fps, not an open world rpg
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>>324403257
>It's trying to be Dark Souls and Asscreed but fails to surpass either
>similarities to dark souls
>you can dodge roll
>you can parry
>similarities to AssCreed
>you can parry
How are they even similar besides being 3rd person action games?
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>>324403793
thing is you can turn that stuff off or rely on other things. you can see footprints without using witcher vision. and your medallion vibrates near traces of magic/monsters. pretty sure you can even turn off the mini map entirely
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>>324404196
Are they not Arpgs now?
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>>324403793
WITCHERFAGS
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>324404196
What's wrong with Fallout 4 combat?
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>>324404328
Even then it's not like you have to think that hard about quests. It's not Morrowind
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>>324404348
It tries so hard to be a generic fps that it ruins the rpg mechanics, and still can't manage to actually have good gunplay. Not to mention that you can just stand still, taking healing items as needed, without even needing to take cover or anything like that. Just like skyrim, where you can just keep spamming m1 until you need health then you pause and eat all the food.
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>>324404342
>Are they not Arpgs now?
not really
open world rpg has a very different design philosophy then any sort of action RPG.

Trying to say they're all the same just makes genre designations completely worthless.
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>>324404196
>combat is worse then Dragon's dogma
>combat is worse then souls series
Nice meme.
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>>324381795
no its common knowledge on /v/
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Quality combat system coming through
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>>324405417
t.b.h. famflam i agree with you but you have to concede some points for the sake of the discussion otherwise it won't go anywhere
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>>324380871
even fallout 4 had better combat
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>>324392208
Christ, this looks like one of the Star Wars prequels with all of the unnecessary spinning.
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>>324380871
Normally I might debate it with you, but you're fucking wrong. That said it's a pretty good game, just don't try to hype your combat up to me like it's awesome. It's okay designed, they just fucked up the execution of it.
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>>324381795
pretty sure most of the thread agrees that souls has best combat
not to mention you're forgetting the qualifier
>OUT OF OPEN WORLD GAMES

so of course we're not counting DMC, DmC, Bayonetta, Godhand, sonic unleashed, street fighter, final fantasy, turn based rpgs, and every other completely unrelated genre you might want to compare because it's your favoritest game of all time or some shit.
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>>324405937
>get slashed right across the face
>lol iframe
How do people even play this shit?
Either go full realistic or go full casual fun like Arkham.
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>>324406183
>pretty sure most of the thread agrees that souls has best combat
And a good meme to you to sir!
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>>324406318
well, what open world game has best combat then?
are you just call every single option a meme?

I bet if I said "witcher 3 has good combat" you'd call it a meme too
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>>324406450
Finally the fixed the shitty iframe issue.
Now you can get iframe by just standing! They're actually improving, holy shit.
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>>324381736
Western games, everyone.

>boss has no build up in his attack animations
>just some shitty 'brush aside' animation that's hard to read and account for with your own movement options
>fucked up hitbox that hits you when you're not even close
>takes off like 35% of your health every time

Good lord.
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>>324406183
open world is such a loose term that can also be used to describe metroidvania worlds
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>>324406673
that should have hit the shield, since he was blocking
but I think the shields hitbox or the sword hitbox was wonky
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>>324382002
Am I suppose to be impressed tripfag
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>>324406673
>>324406450
That looks terrible.
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>>324406767
you know what, fine lets open this can of world
which game has the BEST COMBAT OF ALL TIME, REGARDLESS OF GENRE

I vote for Myth II: Soulblighter
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>>324407035
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>>324406748
>baww why don't the enemies dance off a little before attack to warn me about it
Weeaboo casual gamer, everyone.
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>>324407147
Undertale, Bloodborne, The Last of Us, The Order 1982
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>>324407147
I vote for quake or ut
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>>324407168
I'm pretty sure that you could swing a tree branch at me IRL that many times just like that treant boss and I wouldn't die.
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>>324406450
>fucking circlestrafing while holding shield up fishing for backstabs garbage
this is why dark souls combat is a meme

backstab shouldn't be a fucking canned animation with invincible frames, it should just be "more damage if you attack the back" and that's it
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>>324407168
Too bad I don't have the shortened version of this.
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The combat isn't the only bad thing, movement in general is stiff and clunky, and riding on horseback is awful.
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I'm playing through it at the minute, the combat isn't great for what it wants you to do most of the time, it doesn't seem designed to fight multiple opponents at a time. i saw the best ase of this when able to beat a wyvern 12 levels above me easily enough, but had trouble with a bunch of guys in the next quest that were only 7 above at most. Maybe it's having played Shadow of Mordor before it and being used to the more fluid counter and attack system tgat let you fight literal hoardes of enemies at once but i find The Witchers sub par.
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>>324407641
I almost forgot, that with the horse auto button and the witcher shit vision that I have spent hours in this game watching a horse run down a glowy path on a black screen. This might be the worst game I have ever played.
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>>324381472
I agree with this gentleman's honest opinion
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>>324380871
I played it for a couple hours before dropping it. The movement is very fluid and doging and attacks are all very responsive. It was a pretty good combat system I'd say, but I tried like 15 time before I beat that Griffin boss.
Does the game get easier later on? Else I guess the game isn't for me
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>>324407872
>>324407641
At least watch some video of the game if you try to fool anyone.
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>>324407883
Considering how many people are still playing Skyrim over Witcher 3, everyone agrees with his opinion.
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>>324381736
oh my god you're retarded
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>>324408087
so you're probably dying to the griffin because you're not using the xbow or aard on him. you gotta think tactically. shoot him with the bow if he's just circling the air. or if he swoops at you, dodge OR use aard to knock him on his ass and wail on him some. also use your potions
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I think we can all agree Witcher 3 combat system is better than the Dark Souls's slow and clunky combat.
But what about Dragon Dogma? I haven't played it but would like to try it, is the game fun other than just fighting monsters?
Is there a storyline or just mostly mmo style?
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>>324408243
serious question where do i get a job shilling for CDPR? If you'd just pay me to stop posting I'd accept that as well.
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>>324387878
yes, you just described dark souls.
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>>324408292
Didn't have any potions at that point and only got a few potatoes.
It always used his 180 degree wing swipe to one shot me.
Had to just use Ignis hoping it'd catch on fire.
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>>324408715
if you do igni right on his face it usually catches on fire every time. dodge roll instead of backstep for the wing swipes
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>>324390547
Warrior is widely agreed to be the worst class.

That being said, late game/second playthrough/hardmode will get you maxed in any class you want to play and even warrior becomes awesome when you get all the abilities.

I forget the name of it, but there's one really slow charge to a stab kind of like monster hunter greatswords and if you hit a chimera in the head with it fully charged you can OHKO it. There's a webm of it somewhere and it looks fucking awesome, I just wish I was good enough at predicting enemy AI to do it myself
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>>324408868
Always keep a Quen on. I maxed quen as fast as possible
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>never played any Witcher games
>start playing Witcher 2
>really enjoy it
>the consensus seems to be that it's the weakest entry of the series

I'll probably ignore 1 and enjoy 3 and there's very little anybody can do about it.
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>>324411046
nothing really wrong with w2. just the others have better characters and areas. plus i thought the kayran section just dragged on way too long
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>>324380871
Did they ever fix the fov or how you would constantly go to stop and end up moving past what you wanted to pick up? Those 2 alone made me drop the game real early
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>>324411207
To be fair from what I've seen so far the whole game seems like that. Chapter 1 was mostly (time wise) to do with dealing with the Kayran and Chapter 2 is mostly (again time wise) about gathering bits and pieces for that antidote. Although the battle that happens in Chapter 2 once you get Saskia back in action tapped feels I haven't felt since playing Return of the King so that was a really nice pay off.
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>>324381472
>>324382002
>>324392165

Skyrim is an RPG, so combat is not essential. Witcher is a story-driven action game so gameplay makes 50% of the experience.
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