Actually, yes. I would. That way, there's no paywalled content, and autists can keep collecting their stupid toys.
This is a photoshop right?
>That will be sold out
Yeah, no way this is real, nice ruse OP
I hope they "lock" more content behind amiibo just to see people like the ones replying to you continue to be mad.
It probably isn't. Some translated foreign Amazon page had it as a thing on the bundle page, which anyone that's not retarded can tell instantly how credible that actually is.
Though, as you probably know how shitty journo sites are, they rushed to make articles for them clicks, and people of course bought into it.
then dont, i dont. i have quite a number of games that have amiibo functionalities and i dont own any amiibo and i dont feel worse off for it because ultimately what they give dont matter.
Again, the "autists" as you call them would collect the toys whether or not they did something, its unrelated. they get some extra shit with it, good for them, its their choice what they spend their money on, nobody is forcing them.
I want to cum all over that figure.
Literally my fetish.
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This. The content that are on amiibo really aren't that big.
People only make a big deal about it because they're literally just looking for reasons to whine and bitch, and to direct it at Nintendo since that's such a popular bandwagon to jump into.
They call people collecting amiibo autistic, then turn around to act like complete autists.
Remember when horse armor was almost universally despised?
Okay, I'll give you that's been true for the most part, but surely you can see the worry people have when are locking more and more content behind amiibo. It's fine when it's pissy little shit that doesn't really matter, but a whole dungeon? That's starting to cross into locking away chunks of real content.
>5 years from now
>amiibos no longer produced or distributed
>have to pay $500 for an amiibo to get all of the content on a game
I would prefer if it actually looked good.
>You mean content they wouldn't have even bother adding if it weren't for the amiibo?
I remember when Nintendo added tons of content to their remakes without locking it behind McDonald's toys.
>5 years from now
>Sony, Microsoft or even Nintendo doesn't care if I softmod a legacy system
>Get every DLC I want, even on-disc DLC
>Except content locked behind the amiibos
I other hand, what is Aunoma/Nintendo thinking? They changed a lot of MM for the 3DS remake, a game that only needed a graphical update and some minor fixes but they don't change anything of TP, a game that screams for some major fixes and content and then, they only add a dungeon locked behind an amiibo.
>For other systems have to pay for online if you want to play with friends from around the globe.
>Nintendo tries to convince you to buy amiibos for unlockable content while having free Internet.
Why isn't there more threads about paying for online gaming on the other systems?
That kind of thinking is literally how we went from thinking horse armor was ok to thinking literally locked content that is already in the game out is ok.
So you telling me if I were to make a game with gameplay you personally like you wouldn't mind me purposefully disallowing you from touching some of the areas already built into the disk until you pay me extra for what you already pay for?
Let me put it this way, lets say you order some pizza but right before the guy hand it to you he take out two slices and ask you to pay him $5 extra to get those two slices back that you already pay for. People aren't being entitled, they just not being retarded like you are. Learn to fucking think for yourself, if you are on this site then you should be legally an adult and should start thinking like one. If you aren't 18 then opinion doesn't mean shit as legally speaking you shouldn't even be here and most likely get your parents to buy the shit for you.
>enhanced ports are remakes
>I needed a rosalina amiibo to play as her in MK, 3D World and Smash
Stay mad shitposter.
Even the Shadow Mewtwo card in Pokken only serves as an instant unlock while the character can be unlocked through conventional means.
Let's make this more amiibo related now
>lets say you order some pizza but right before the guy says he has a box with two more slices in his car but asks you to pay an extra $5 for it.
Even if it's true, it quite clearly isn't part of the main game, yeah, sure, it's DLC, but seriously, who the fuck cares? You probably already OWN this game, and are willing to pay for owning it again, but extra stuff costs extra? BLASPHEMOUS!
because its fun? i just preordered and cant wait. alot of games have stuff like this, how is it any different than a DLC or season pass? at least u get an amiibo out of it! you STUPID FUCK
Shadow Mewtwo is an exception. Most of the content unlocked with amiibos can't be unlocked any other way.
I imagine a lot of people would be more cool with it if Nintendo also sold that content as cheap DLC.
Don't want an amiibo? Buy the DLC for that specific game.
Like amiibo? Buy an amiibo and get the figure, plus a savings by getting on the DLC free across all games.
>I'm NOW bitching about things that have been a thing since forever
Nor was Smash, what's your point?
They're still compatible with Amiibo and have multiple characters not bound to an Amiibo jackass.
I think one of the problems is that people are putting too much worth behind the "content" locked behind the Amiibo anyway.
Isn't it ironic that Wind Waker, the "kiddy" Zelda, got a legitimate figure while Twilight Princess, the supposedly mature Zelda, gets a glorified happy meal toy?
Yeah, they were really doing us a charity act with the $50 / $60 upres of a game that's finished. Without the amiibo there certainly wouldn't have been enough extra change to add a dungeon.
Exactly, added content from nintendo is almost always passable and mediocre. I really cant think of any dlc by them that begs for your attention, I guess save the smash characters.
Amiibo are selling like crazy and I doubt the little shitty extras games give you are any part of it. Nintendo doesn't even need to link content to it, people were already buying them up just to collect them.
I just don't get it.
You can't access new content or DLC with your original TP versions, it's something logical, the Wii and the GC are legacy systems, if you want the new content you have to buy the new version, that again is something logical, but in the past, Nintendo offered that new content with your purchase, you didn't need to pay extra. A few examples:
Link´s Awekening DX had a new dungeon + the photo album gimmick.
Metroid Zero Mission has a huge graphical update, new mechanics, new physics, new areas, new bosses, revamped music and also, included the original Metroid.
Super Mario 64 DS has three new characters, new areas, 30 new stars, some extra bosses, minigames, a drawing gimmick and a little multiplayer mode.
This was included with your purchase and doesn't needed extra stuff.
For TP you need to pay 60 dollars again for the base game + extra for an amiibo if you want an extra dungeon.
You need to buy an extra GBA, a link cable and a extra copy of the game to access all the content.
>but just ask a friend!
Well big guy, just ask a friend to lend you their amiibo, then.
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Uhm...yes? It's Physical DLC. Even worse...ON DISC DAY ONE PHYSICAL DLC.
>But the toy...
An useless extra for people who don't want those shits. I only see a pay-wall behind a dungeon.
They need to stop making new, useless amiibo and starting giving the previously released amiibo some actual usage. If the regular Link amiibo unlocked the dungeon it wouldn't be half as bad as this
>I just don't get it.
They're cheap, they have functionality in a ton of games, they're either iconic characters everyone loves (Mario, DK, Link, Kirby etc) or niche characters with a rabid fanbase (Ness, Samus, Captain Falcon etc) or real crazy inclusions (Pacman, G&W, Bayonetta etc)
It would be crazy if it didn't sell.
Because if figures are your thing, they aren't half bad ones.
I know the whole happy meal toy meme is a thing, but they're honestly just fine for something you can walk in a western store and buy for 13 bucks. Go into Wal-Mart and compare them with toys you can find there for the same price instead of far more expensive Japanese statues and you'll see they aren't actually bad quality figures.
You people are seriously dumb.
When you buy the game it comes with the amiibo, its not an extra $15 purchase like you make it out to be.
There are no standalone copies, every copy you buy will come with the amiibo bundled, same as Chibi robo and Animal crossing party.
You pay a flat $60 like any other wii-U game.
Stop spreading rumors.
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>IT'S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
nintendrones defend this!
Metroid Prime locked the original Metroid and Fusion Suit behind Fusion connectivity so you would have to buy the connector, game and GBA to access the content.
SMB3 remake had the E-Reader content.
Up until HG/SS the only way to get Ho-oh and Lugia outside of an event were Colosseum and Gale of Darkness.
On the topic of Pokemon Ranger and Manaphy and Ranch and Mew.
It goes back much farther than Amiibo and it gets much "worse". Especially with SMB3 where they locked several levels as opposed to TPHD's single dungeon.
I did, thanks
I'm rebuilding all my folders now
that's what I'm here for.
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>How's a dungeon in a Zelda game significant content?
Official shops have it at 45€ and the Amiivo version at 60€. Just did the stupid 1$-1€ conversion Nintendo usually does.
We have no idea what the scale of this dungeon is anon.
At the most it'll be something along the lines of the shitty Mario Party boards.
The Splatoon content was literally the main game + a lenient time attack and the roller.
Not him, but No. Thats not true at all.
You needed two copies of Alttp to even play Four swords, and good luck finding a friend at the age who had it too. I always wanted to play FS as a kid and never could because all my friends were sonic fans.
a Link cable
2 alttp Carts
And then for the Four sword dungeon temple in the actual game, you had to complete fourswords. Yeah, good luck with that.
And lets go even further, FSA for the gamecube, The multiplayer is literally locked to GBA control.
If you wanted to play multiplayer, you needed FOUR GBAs, and FOUR link cables.
Couldnt use a GC controller, had to be a GBA.
Shit was so fucking stupid.
You can feign ignorance on /v/'s behalf all you want but you and I both know this is Nintendogaf and people here scalped the shit out of these shitty plastic toys.
Also attempted to make custom amiibos by not thinning their goddamn paints.
>more content locked behind it
>new reason to introduce a whole new line
>even more sales
What is there not to get.
Its pretty obvious that they dont care about the usability of ammibos, in which case they would have added the unlock function to one of the dozen zelda series amiibos that are already on the market, but the additional amiibo sales they can make.
Digital is ALWAYS $10 cheaper. see every game on the market. Thats the point of digital in the first place.
Physical has always been 59.99 and not a cent less.
Increasingly is the key word here.
Surely you can see that
nothing < skins < remixed stages (splatoon) < new dungeon (twilight princess)
Nintendo is slowly but surely locking more and more stuff behind amiibo and you are fucking defending it.
I actually like amiibo in concept, too, I just don't want to see them become something you have to have to get a complete game experience.
but i do get free games since my PS+ was free with my bundle
>port 4swords to wiiu
>make it online
nintendo is just retarded
Don't forget the age group for paying N64 zelda was 4-13 years old and to many both OoT and MM was very hard. I had a friend in grade school at the time who could not pass MM without the full strategy guide. Years later he bought me the collectors edition TP guide as gift. Honestly I never used it.
>this is Nintendogaf and people here scalped the shit out of these shitty plastic toys.
>Doing business taking advantage of retarded fanboys for extra cash makes people Nintendo fans.
Not all the games come with the Amiibo.
Honestly? I don't see the issue. If you're a Nintendo fan you obviously still enjoy toys and collectability. You wouldn't be a nintendo fan otherwise, you'd just emulate their games via PC.
You like their games and merchandise, so why are you so against the idea that Nintendo, a toy company, would market toys?
Quite frankly I wish sony and capcom would do the same, I'd love to have more individualized little collectable figures of all my favorite Vidya, could have Phoenix wright, Amaterasu, The whole street fighter line, Dante, RE Characters, the list is endless and marketable.
Honestly this game, my dead hopes for a star fox game and a Wii-U animal crossing where the only games I was looking forward too in the Wii-U and my only reason to buy the console.
>as you call them would collect the toys whether or not they did something
that's his point dumbass. they will buy their plastic shit even if they did nothing. So making them not hide content would hurt nothing, this is completely anti-consumer
And you realize they're probably doing that of their own choice, right? Seems the amiibo is still available there too. So, people can't complain about it being impossible to get when it's available right now.
>tfw everything is more and more expensive as a canadian gamer.
>People thinking Nintendo was above this
>Nintendrones in full damage control
>YOU had to buy the game
>Friends are irrelevant
Then how do you play multiplayer genius?
I'd gladly have paid $12 bucks for an amiibo back then to unlock the content rather then going out of my way to find someone who bought the same game, or spending a fortune just to buy another copy, AND another GBA.
Face it, this is far cheaper then most alternatives, Hell Pokemon should start doing this so we don't have to buy both versions every gen, would save a few bucks. just release a version mascot amiibo that unlocks all of that versions exclusive pokemon.
How about this instead:
The amiibo unlocks the bonus dungeon right away for you to go to, but if you don't have the amiibo, you have to go through a series of quests and obtain in-game items that unlock the bonus dungeon without the use of an amiibo.
Just outright locking the content behind an amiibo and not providing a challenging but fair alternative to unlocking said content without an amiibo is a dick move that should not be supported.
thats funny. I dont think you ever owned one. it was way easier to play the games without the robot. And thats what most kids ended up doing. Still was cool as shit and I would buy again.
Why don't you learn some history kid, ROB was a trojan horse to get toy stores to stock video games again after the 80's crash. No one gave a fuck about ROB, they never locked SMB levels or LoZ dungeons behind a ROB DLC.
Any game that requires you to pay for DLC is instantly bad in my eyes. It should come free with he game, or should release for free after the fact.
Terraria did it, Shovel Knight did it, FTL did it, even TF2 does it by allowing you to get the content ingame without paying a penny. What's Nintendo's excuse?
Or how about just selling us the DLC digital for the same price, so we have the OPTION of buying it and not have it forced on us with the purchase.
I want the Dungeon, I DON'T want the shitty happy meal toy.
Because you retards bought Nintendo's ridiculous artificially limited low quality physical DLC because "It just unlocks a new AI character, it's totally not DLC".
This told Nintendo that you unironically enjoy eating shit, and so Nintendo served you more shit. Congrats.
Except you morons would then complain about it anyway.
Why else would you be posting in this thread if not for something to bitch about?
Any and all possible arguments on this subject have already happened on multiple occasions. Only point now is to piss others off.
WAIT! Guys... wait..
Not only we hide new content for old games behind a pay wall.
What if we made these physical DLCs....
In limited supply? Scalpers gotta eat, too.
>Do a bunch of shitty half-assed sidequests to unlock something or pay for it outright.
Yeah no, I'd pay. I had my fair of shitty update quests with runescape. I'd rather just get the content instead of do meaniningless dribble for it.
Cmon, do you expect nintendo to put effort into something like that? I'tll be backtrack hell through popular areas and collect the chickens or some crap like that.
Valvedrones and DRM
Xbots and paid online
And the big one Sonyggers with all of the above with the addition of going into Nintendo, Steam and Microsoft threads and shitposting incessantly to no end.
And if you have anything to say about those terrible practices?
You literally can't criticize Sony without a horde of them jumping on your ass.
What about us PC owners who don't rely on steam as if it was their only way of playing games? The true PC gamers who use GOG, or uplay, or just bypass them all entirely?
Are we not allowed to complain about terrible practices like this?
>Did you NEED him to play the game? No.
You do if you want to play the games without switching between two controllers when playing solo.
God forbid you didn't have a second controller and wanted to play those games because you were fucked if you didn't have ROB.
I just buy them for the figures, I don't even own a wii-U or a 3DS.
>glorified remake above 20 dollars
That's where I stop reading. Your game isn't worth over 20 dollars Nintendo.
>the content the Amiibo unlocks is free, it's a gift for buying the collectible item!
Right, and PS+ games are free, they're just gifts for buying a subscription to the service, right?
Get fucking real. You're being had and you don't even realize it. And now it's too fucking late to do anything. They've gotten the message. Amiibo are more popular than the fucking Wii U. You really think that will steer them in the right direction?
Who's scrambling, exactly?
You sperglords still haven't provided an actual counterargument to the fact that this comes with every retail copy of the game, ultimately rendering any and all shitposts like this as nothing more than blowing hot air. You're angry at something you're 100% getting in the package.
And nice tin foil hat theory about the NX; let's assume they'll continue on with amiibos as they print money - there's still nothing indicative that amiibos will be required to play a game in full. All of these inclusions have either been additional or supplementary content or cosmetics. How you managed to leap to an extreme negative outcome is beyond me, but hey, I'm dealing with neo-/v/ after all..
>Valvedrones and DRM
Digital purchases are tied to the system on Nintendo, and they defend that all the time.
>You literally can't criticize Sony without a horde of them jumping on your ass
That is fucking rich coming from a Nintendo fan.
Because Nintendo is going back to what they did in the 50s and 60s and mixing it with what made them popular in the first place.
But I still don't see why Nintendo could take the time to do digital DLC instead of of figurines with exclusive shit inside.
Shit, I'm not going to be laughing about it. I like a lot of the games Nintendo puts out. I don't want to be getting my games in pieces, and while in the past Nintendo has been reasonably good about avoiding the DLC trap that most major consoles have been pushing, Amiibo has made me worried that they're surging past them with their own turbo-jew ways. I'm actually starting to hope that somebody can figure out a way to hack Amiibos, so to speak, where you could trick the game into thinking you own whichever one you want, because while I don't advocate piracy or theft what they're doing is just downright ridiculous.
I'd rather Nintendo fuck off with the day 1 DLC altogether. Nobody buys Amiibo for the in-game content, they're bought because they're official toys from Nintendo. I'm never going to buy an Amiibo when they're used for cancerous shit like this, in fact it's putting me off from buying the game from all.
>twilight princess hd 79.99
>xenoblade chroniclies 74.99 (special edition 129.99)
And where did I ever say that was wrong? Its completely right. Every system has these rules, but keep in mind that the average person has a Pc or Mac, and both are capable of running simple online games.
A GBA at that time was a birthday gift. not an expectancy.
It's an EXTRA dungeon. It's not anything substantial most likely.
It's probably a crappy new weapon that's only used a few places in game for extra rupees.
I don't see the big fuss. If you're upset by this, don't pay 12 bucks for the amiibo. It's that fucking simple.
>Digital purchases are tied to the system on Nintendo, and they defend that all the time.
No one defends that, usually though it's telling people how it's tied to both the account and system so you can just phone them up and download it to another system.
>That is fucking rich coming from a Nintendo fan.
>implying I'm a Nintendofan for having a perspective on this shit
Everyone jumps on the shit of others but no other fanbase gets all up in arms as the Sony fanbase. It's getting to the point where they justify PS+ with that shitty digital rental system and mediocre security.
There have been threads where they say that Sony being hacked and revealing user information was "blown out of proportion".
They, by far, are the worst group in the video game community.
Don't forget you need
>don't have any friends so I gues I have to pay some homeless people
>they don't have any place to stay so I guess I have to get food for them
>Oh, I also need to buy a fucking apartment to play it in
Gee thanks nintendo. How is the average consumer going to pay for all this?
60 dollars is a standard wii-U game
>BUT MUH BAYONETTA DEAL
>BUT MUH WINDWAKER DEAL
Not happening this time. So suck it up and pay the price if you want the game. $5 doesnt kill you unless you live in some shithole.
Or, and please for a second don't act like a retard after reading this, you wouldn't get this dungeon at all. Nintendo puts the money for development of this dungeon, because the game+amiibo money will be good enough to pay it all back.
I'm actually all in for more amiibo content, bigger content. Nintendo said they'll probably release cheap amiibo cards too, so what's the problem? Or, and I'd be okay with it, let them put the dungeon (aside from amiibo) behind a paywall - nothing much, just enough for some people who don't want to get an amiibo whatever stuff is there to see.
I know this might come as a shock to a lot of you, but you idiots have no idea how game devlopment works. You have no idea what we have to deal with. And before someone calls me out on working for Nintendo - never developed a single thing for any of their consoles. But I at least know why all this DLC shit exists and how all your crying will never change anything. Why? Because development costs get higher all the time, years ago it was dirt cheap, and now we need to get more than 60$ from people - and DLC is one of the best ways, aside from all the Limited Edition shit. That figure and artbook you paid two times more for? Yeah, it costs little to nothing to make it, and it's easy money.
It's still ridiculous that Nintendo did so little with the whole amiibo thing. There's whole NES titles to give for figures, free to play amiibo games, apps, so much potential that they still didn't touch on.
I don't get it.
Doesnt everyone already have the game for the Wii and or GC?
Whats the point in updating? As far as we know it has no new content, and i'm pretty sure all of /v/ kept their gamecubes.
I loved OoT, Majoras Mask and Windwaker, but I've never played TP. I have a Wii U. Should I get this game?
>60 dollars is a standard wii-U game
Then that's the root of th eproblem. These games don't deserve that much for such low quality. The most they should be is about 30 dollars, 20 if it's a remake.
After all, I've already played. What can you possibly claim justifies the price? Keep in mind that sony tried claiming that "graphics" was the reason why TLOU got an expensive Ps4 port. And it was garbage.
>Autists will actually spend $20+ dollars on a cheaply made Nintendo branded McDonalds toy
>Autists will actually stand in front of stores for them, without a child in sight
>Autists will actually defend on-disk DLC
>Autists will actually defend McDonalds toys with "hurr im havin fun", "hurr i get a cheaply made toy and some free cotent aswell"
If you're actually retarded enough to buy an Amiibo, please kill yourself. You're buying factory made physical DLC/ Childrens toys. You're not on the same level as people who buy figmas, you're on the level of horsefuckers going to McDonalds and buying MLP toys.
>3ds has outsold Xbox one and ps4 combined
>new IP won shooter of the year
>amiibo flying off shelves
Do you always spew random garbage from your mouth, or is it only when you're feeling especially autistic?
>defending on-disc DLC
Holy fuck. The physical aspect I can ignore, but this shit is obscene. You people are nauseating.
It was touted as a second player for these games. Set aside the fact that it was just a toy to play with the games could be played with two players or even just yourself using two controllers.
>The most they should be is about 30 dollars, 20 if it's a remake.
That sounds more like you pushing your views onto the market then what it should actually be.
Gamecube games were 39.99 new MSRP in 2002. Wii-U games which pushed the technology even further, + the current inflation between now and a decade ago, $60 isnt far fetched for a video game.
Just ebcause you believe there is less work, doesn't make it so. Infact, if you pay attention to credit rolls, you'd realize the teams of Wii-U games far exceed the size of the Gamecube ones, so more labor and cost production time = bigger sales and budget price.
If you're not willing to pay for that, thats fine, but don't go spouting what things are worth when you have no idea of economics. Even NES games were $80 back in the day, and that was standard fare.
>I know this might come as a shock to a lot of you, but you idiots have no idea how game devlopment works
Here's how it works for a good company.
>release free DLC because you love video games and don't like greedy people
>release MORE DLC for free because the thought of a paywall disgusts you
>continue supporting the game years after release
>laugh at AAA companies charging 60 dollars for 40 year old games
what the fuck is this guy talking about?
>Gamecube games were 39.99 new MSRP in 2002. Wii-U games which pushed the technology even further, + the current inflation between now and a decade ago, $60 isnt far fetched for a video game.
It's far too much when the PC market has games at mere pennies that will have higher quality and more content.
>Infact, if you pay attention to credit rolls, you'd realize the teams of Wii-U games far exceed the size of the Gamecube ones, so more labor and cost production time = bigger sales and budget price.
All it tells me is that Nintendo wastes money on excess garbage that the game doesn't need. Some of the best games this gen were made by one guy in his basement with the budget of an adidas jacket and a turkey sandwich.
>but don't go spouting what things are worth when you have no idea of economics
In the competitive market, you have to prove that your product is worth it. When other products come out and have nearly triple the content at a fraction of the price, then you have a problem.
>Comes with game
Really? If i buy it digitally they're gonna ship me the McDonalds toy so i get the dungeon? You're fucking retarded
How about all those other games with on-disk content locked behind McDonalds toys?
Call it whatever mental disorder you want. Autism, Aspergers, the Downs. People actually buying and supporting this garbage have the mind of a 12 year old and they need to seek help.
Here, have this image then. Doesnt stop you from not being autistic for supporting Nintendo.
>defending on-disc DLC
>defending on-disc DLC being blocked off by official licensed merchandise
>defending the thing killing Nintendo
Can't wait for the NX to just be a phone that's compatible with Amiibo.
Okay. You're right. Let's put it your way, since you want me to:
You make a game yourself. You create all the assets. Spent all that time. It takes you years, because you have a job to pay your bills. Or you don't and have to get the cash from somewhere, so you can work on the game full time.
You still with me?
You release your game. It's not a hit, but it has a small community that likes it. But uh-oh, your sales are slowing down, and it seems like you won't make it even OR barely make it even, and where's the money you thought you'd get to work full time on the next title?
And the community asks for more. They want more, and they say paying a few additional bucks isn't bad for them, since they love the title and if it helps make a sequel - why not.
Now, you have all the assets for the game created. It takes you little to no time to create an additional level or two, even fucking 100 levels if they're simple (MGS VR missions), and you can spend that time, and release these levels as additional DLC that'll give you the cash you needed and additional new customers if you pack it up etc.
Do you understand how this works? There's a whole system, and don't even get me started on how this works in big dev teams, where we have different groups working on different shit. You have some people you can either kick off from company, or make them stay as group B to work on DLC for the game, while group A works on that last part to polish it all up. That way you get group B to stay with you until group A is done and you can develop new shit, AND you get additional money, while people who actually want DLC - get it.
>I don't know much about LA,
>Is it possible to play these dungeons if you're emulating it?
Yes, you can also play them on an original monochrome GB but you couldn't really solve it because it had color based puzzles.
>AI Are already in Smash
Really? Want to show me where i can make my own AI that i can train?
>A literal square
>Still locked behind McDonalds toys
How about the Amiibo exclusive Mario Maker skins?
>comes with game
Yep, it's included with all standard edition copies.
Enjoy anon and have fun.
>Call it whatever mental disorder you want. Autism, Aspergers, the Downs
You have these? That's a lot of disorders.
>And the community asks for more. They want more, and they say paying a few additional bucks isn't bad for them, since they love the title and if it helps make a sequel - why not.
Here's what you do in that situation: you release the content for free anyway and let your customers know that you don't want to nickel and dime them. IF they want to spend money so badly, have them donate it to your patreon, or fund a new game.
You literally have no argument here. You're just saying words and hoping to not sound retarded
>an entire board in Mario party
A board that literally adds nothing to your game but a fun quirk that isn't even that fun
>an entire dungeon
A dungeon that was never in the original game to begin with, so it still doesn't effect the game in any way.
Don't act like the updates are DLC. Online games have had frequent post-release updates ever since Runescape. It's one of the advantages of the PC platform.
Re-logic doesn't have any other games they need to sell/make, so they can continue developing for Terraria and continuing to add new content. Their devs aren't paid $60,000 yearly salaries, where it would be shooting yourself in the foot to have them continue to make free content continuously. Nintendo already offered said free updates for Splatoon, and it helped them continue selling it, but that's because the R&D3 team had nothing better to do. The Zelda team, under Aonuma, would be better off spending their time working on Zelda Wii U, so it's understandable if they want to earn a little extra cash by adding in extra content post release. Same with Sakurai's team.
Gyroid can be played with 2 people you stupid cunt, you cant not play Gyroid if you dont have a ROB.
>Yep, it's included with all standard edition copies.
Really? So how am i going to get the Amiibo when i buy Digitally? Got a source?
>You have these? That's a lot of disorders.
Im not the one defending Nintendo senpai whats it like in the mind of a child? How are those disability checks?
>defending an international corporation with indieshit logic
DLC is cancer. They are effectively removing content to sell for later. If a game isn't complete when it releases, it shouldn't be sold for full price. Nintendo are milking their fans for all they're worth until they can find another stable market to get into and throw you retards off a cliff.
bullshit you could play them with both controllers all rob did was hold down a or b or left or right. Believe me when I say it was to sell the consoles in america.
Sorry, anon, but not every company is CDProjekt.
Good company =/= successful company
And guess which one companies that push DLC want to be. You think the board of directors at EA gives a shit about the games? They look at profits, hyping the game and pretending you like the series is for people below them - they're the investors.
At least Nintendo tries to do shit different, and look how long it took them to get into DLC, and when they did - it's never a Mario cap for a dollar or some shit, they locked that behind amiibo, which gives you more stuff as more games come out that support them, while actual DLC tries to be something cool - characters, whole courses etc.
>literally takes 15 people and a few pennies to program, sprite, and implement new updates
>comparing this to actual game design
Stop being a fucking faggot and read a book once in a while. Learn how the world works
>You literally have no argument here. You're just saying words and hoping to not sound retarded
Pretty sure i do senpai, if i wanted to use a feature on the Disk i paid for i'd have to go out and buy a shitty McDonalds toy
>A board that literally adds nothing to your game but a fun quirk that isn't even that fun
Still a board on the disk that i paid for that i cant get without a shitty McDonalds toy
>A dungeon that was never in the original game to begin with, so it still doesn't effect the game in any way.
Still on the disk that i paid for that i cant get without a shitty McDonalds toy
The Amiibo that came with a specific version of the game cant be got through 100 Mario Challenge you stupid cunt, you dont even know the shit you're shilling
So it doesnt come with the game then you stupid cunt? I paid for the game and i didnt get the dungeon because i didnt buy the version with the shitty McDonalds toy? I honestly cant believe you're this autistic.
You can "hurr no ur autistic muh mom sayz therez nothin rong with me :((( mario sayz im cool" all you fucking like but god damn realise how fucking mentally disabled you are for defending this shit.
I don't see how that's an excuse. All it tells me is that Nintendo spends and wastes too much money. If they cut back on the excess garbage in their titles, maybe they wouldn't need to charge so much. Little food for thought.
>Sorry, anon, but not every company is CDProjekt.
>CDprojekt created Terraria
Bait post, instantly discarded.
it didnt block off content like the amiibo faggot. Even if it did it was a blatent marketing ploy to get people to buy consoles in america. And am I glad it was now we have a video game market.
>Terraria isn't an actual video game because it doesn't have enough waifus to jerk off to, or cinematics, or mature gamer graphics
Golly gee, I think I stepped into reddit by mistake.
>The Amiibo that came with a specific version of the game cant be got through 100 Mario Challenge you stupid cunt, you dont even know the shit you're shilling
You can use the CRT mode without the 30th Mario Amiibo.
Every costume is unlockable through 100 mario challenge.
I for one, welcome the amiibos.
In a failing economy, $60 is just too little to cover the costs of a game. To be honest, I would prefer that the price be raised to $90 to account for inflation, but it seems that only I possess financial sense in a world of monkeys.
But that is why Nintendo is so heroic. They willingly give us free figures that have quality on par with professional crafters, along with the game. They give us this for $60, taking a loss for each unit. And they do this for no other reasons than passion for video games, and unending love for their customers.
So yes, I will gladly buy this and all others like this for a mere $60. I would buy it for $90, $120, $150. Not once in all my life have I been led astray by Nintendo, and I know I won't be now. I pity those who cannot keep confidence like I can. They abandon those who have nurtured their hobby and cared for them, like a runaway teenager leaves the house that cared for, loved, and raised them with a functioning moral compass. These poor, pitiful runaways then try to take refuge with seedy lovers who do nothing but hurt, manipulate, and abuse these runaways. They either try to use them for their own perverted desires, sexually terrorizing them (Sony), try to use them as drug runners and mules, pulling them into illegal activities (Microsoft), or violent psychopathic terrorists who slowly brainwash them and force them to commit unspeakable acts, much like Charles Manson and his family (Steam).
And all Nintendo can do when this happens is stand by, with a broken heart and watch as the children they loved more than anything else ruins their lives and can only pay for the consequences of their actions. But like truly loving parents, Nintendo is always there, arms open, ready to take back their children and bring them home, and show them what it means to be loved.
So that is why I will support Nintendo, no matter how much they charge. Even if I must pay over $100 per game, I will not leave my family.
Donations are something you can always make, but they're hard to tax AND you're not giving people anything. And let's be clear - a lot less fans will donate than buy some small cash DLC.
As for Patreon - don't even make me laugh. Kickstarer's the same - you're thinking your game is Undertale level of popularity? Think something a lot smaller, you have no idea how much shit there is on Steam that barely breaks even and lives long enough to see a sequel just because of some small DLC and releasing whole packs of it on shit like Humble Bundle.
Nice try, dipshit. But let's use a site that isn't some fake bingbong merchant that's just stripping Amiibo editions to later sell the amiibos for some absurd amount on Ebay.
>So it doesnt come with the game then you stupid cunt
It comes with the standard edition as standard yes.
I think this may be too hard for kids, maybe you should ask your mother.
I'm sorry, but are you perhaps moving goalposts now? Because the anon I was replying to himself wanted to see the situation takes down to a single person.
Once again - what do you know about game development? You just know what you'd WANT game development to be, and not what it actually is or tries to be. Yeah, there are companies doing DLC in a shitty way, but not every DLC is bad. Get this into your head and better live with that.
Honestly, I've seen games not even sell 10k units, but continue getting free DLC all the time. The hint is to not waste your money on garbage like graphics. Something even Nintendo needs to learn.
This a port of a gamecube game. Stop acting like this isn't free money without them charging you for disc locked content. Nintendo are doing everything they can to continue to profit off past projects and to release fewer, more expensive new projects. They are trying to improve profit, not quality. They don't give a flying fuck about quality anymore.
>hurr if u dun like nintendo jewing u ur retarded and underage
I hope you know theres no real difference between being underage and being underage mentally. You supporting Nintendo and actively buying Nintendo Branded McDonalds Toys so you can get exclusive content in the next Mario Bros is just making it extremely obvious that you've got the mind of an 8 year old.
They've literally locked behind the idea of creating an AI Character you can level up and train to your style and locked it behind a shitty McDonalds toy. I couldnt care if you needed the Amiibo to take it to other Wii U's, but the fact is theres a feature in the game locked behind Physical DLC. If you're defending this, please kill yourself.
>tfw I got an e-reader as a kid, and now I'm against Amiibos
I was part of the problem all along...
You literally didn't read a fucking word.
Don't get me wrong, terraria is great, and it's got a great developer.
But you're comparing macaroni art to an oil painting and saying "Well, the macaroni is cheap and I should get the painting for the same price"
They literally workwith sprites right out of mspaint, and you're comparing it to actual graphic design and saying it should be released cheap too.
Read next time, retard
>Implying American Gamestop, Amazon.com and actual real retailers yield different results
>Implying you aren't riding 100% of your shitposting on a fake site
>They don't give a flying fuck about quality anymore.
They're the only one producing quality products funnily enough, after all their games aren't broken on release or sell cut content as DLC.
It's either held back to be refined or DLC produced long after the full game has been finished.
Or in this case additions made specifically because a peripheral existed.
Needless to say your whole idea of "quality" has been warped by the current generation.
>>no one has tried to actually derail the thread or get it deleted
He's tried making this thread like 5-6 times.
He's just calling people autistic and samefagging instead of spamming console war images.
> But let's use a site that isn't some fake bingbong merchant that's just stripping Amiibo editions to later sell the amiibos for some absurd amount on Ebay.
I'm using fucking GAME dude. It doesn't get more official where I live.
>I hope you know theres no real difference between being underage and being underage mentally
So you're saying you're 15, but "mature for age"
I buy the amiibo because my daughter plays with them, and I get a bit of use out of them too. It's a win-win.
Get off Nintendo's dick. If you don't like the amiibo don't fucking buy them.Stop being a faggot.
>Having to patch in content for months like Splatoon is fucking broken
I get so much out of this pic.
So many uses.
>hurr u just gotta buy da retail version at double da cost to get da shitty mcdonalds toy 2 get da on-disk dlc
>u get it with da game u idiot its not on-disk dlc
Do you just not understand how autistic you sound?
I know you cunts are still living with your parents and getting them to buy your videogames for you so of course you can spend the extra $30 on the retail version as long as you do more chores, or the fact that you're living off autism bucks so it really doesnt matter, but how do you really just not understand how fucking stupid you are for defending the fact that if you buy the game you're going to be locked out of shit you paid for thats inside the games files unless you go out and spend even more money on a shitty McDonalds toy?
Does this just not click in your brain? Are you really this retarded?
If it was anything else, anything else at all you'd be up in arms (Not really tho, because the games that do On-Disk DLC dont come to Wii U because the Wii U is a piece of shit) but because you get a $3 McDonalds toy for $20+ you're okay with it?
Because you get a cheaply made plastic toy made for kids so if someone ever comes to your parents house they can see how autistic you REALLY are, you're okay with it?
Wake the fuck up.
Then why can't they make the new dungeon an "update"? Why does it require paying money?
If the price isn't at 0 dollars, then I can hardly call it "fairly priced".
>But you're comparing macaroni art to an oil painting and saying "Well, the macaroni is cheap and I should get the painting for the same price"
>brown and bloom filters now magically make your game the equivalent of an oil painting
>Terraria doesn't have enough story or cutscenes, that means it's macaroni
Again, you have no idea what true game design is if you think a game needs high definition graphics.
>the guy who says Terraria isn't a video game
>posting that image
Oh the ironing.
>to be a physical paywall.
I'm too old for this shit.
>implying they shipped Splatoon with even half the content it has now
It's the same bullshit as FF7's episodic releases except they charge you up front. You're just another shill without a brain.
Amazon.com is 59.99
Best Buy is 59.99
Think before you shitpost with your Amerishit merchants.
>have shit currency with names that may as well be a reference to WB
>"w-why is everything so expensive"
Maybe if you're shithead PM actually gave a fuck about someone other than a refugee you wouldn't be in this mess.
>the amiibo is included free as standard with the standard edition
How hard is that?
>autistic you sound
>you cunts are still living with your parents
>you're living off autism bucks
>how fucking stupid you are
>Does this just not click in your brain? Are you really this retarded?
>how autistic you REALLY are
The projection here is too real.
Considering Nintendo's website doesn't even have this fucking fake posting, yeah, I'm calling bullshit.
They're even offering preorders for the digital premium edition, so digifags have nothing to cry about.
>Again, you have no idea what true game design is if you think a game needs high definition graphics.
Nor do you if you think Terraria is a good example of it.
It's the same thing as Minecraft, just let the player design it themselves, they're just making the canvass and providing the tools.
You're linking to the fucking amiibo bundle you colossal faggot
Here's a fun fact: The canadian dollar is shit.
59.99 in USD is what 79.99 is in Canada. It's actually about 8$ more, but it's scaled back more sensibly.
>not one of the better titles out right now
8 years of free content updates, none of which requires mandatory money transfer. Yet Splatoon toots its own horn for a few months.
>hurr go bak 2 skool
>how dare u call nintendo bad
Do you just really not see how autistic you are?
Do you really not see how you coming onto the internet and defending E for Everyone games makes you look underage or just like a fucking manchild?
You're still defending it, holy shit. How fucking retarded are you?
You're literally saying
>hurr u get da content with da standard edition with is $300 and comes with all da dlc and a cd and all the pretty mcdondalds toys
>nah its standard so u get it 4 free
Thats how retarded you sound.
You're paying for a game and being locked out of shit you paid for until you go out and buy a shitty McDonalds toy
You are THAT fucking autistic.
Its not Projection, your autism is seriously that much of a problem. Please consider killing yourself.
because the new dungeon isn't just an update. To be honest I don't know what this new dungeon will be.
>I want to play this new game content, but don't to play the game to get to it.
Yea, you're right. Fuck actually playing the game. I should be able to just pay to get to the end of it. All that meaningless garbage between the beginning and the end of it is just a waste of time, am I right?
Skylanders literally call of dutied their way to the bottom by making the same game 4 times and Disney infinity is doing the same. Amiibo aren't locked to the same game over and over.
And why does that change anything? It actually reinforces my point. They don't have to charge ludicrous prices up front just for free DLC.
>Nor do you if you think Terraria is a good example of it.
What the hell are you talking about?
>It's the same thing as Minecraft
You're really going there?
>they're just making the canvass and providing the tools.
>he says while defending Mario Maker
>get [x] included for free in standard edition
>You're still defending it
>How fucking retarded are you
>Thats how retarded you sound
>You are THAT fucking autistic.
>your autism is seriously that much of a problem
>Please consider killing yourself
Anon, please take your medication before posting.
This is embarrassing.
Skylanders was actually doing fine, and this game probably would have aswell. The reason it did badly was because instead of focusing on making new characters, they made a shit ton of recolored characters.
The lack of variety just pushed people away. The recent game is pretty different from the past ones as it's got racing or some shit, so they atleast attempted to do something different.
They just fucked up with the characters, which is the whole selling point of the series.
>>he says while defending Mario Maker
>gives you 100 free levels to play without going online
Gotta try harder than that friendo.
>gives you 100 free levels to play without going online at 60 dollars
>Terraria gives you the exact same amount of content + free content over 4 years at 10 dollars + moddability unrestricted by copyright law
>That's some pretty unrealistic standards considering the state of the industry
It's also unrealistic to demand a game that's not a hollywood movie, but you don't see me going out and purchasing a playstation, now do you?
>the complexity of the program determines how much a developer's time is worth
How does that make any sense? It doesn't matter if their spritework can be done in paint if they still spent years updating the game for free
I don't even need to read any of the posts in this thread to know that it's full of manchildren autists saying there's nothing wrong with a company locking content in a product you purchased and forcing you to buy a $15 Happy Meal toy to access it
>Unless it can match 8 years of content, there's no reason why it shouldn't be an update.
It shouldn't. It's something new they added to the game. Just because it's not free doesn't mean it's bad.
>no other company has ever added something new into their game
>>Terraria gives you the exact same amount of content
>have to make all of it yourself rather than the developers making it and already having it there to jump into
>free content that took a week at the most to create and requires online to access
>mods PLAYER created content
You're not helping yourself here.
Click on those links, assfaggot. They all redirect to the only fucking bundle available. The amiibo
You were fucking dumb enough to argue that the price meant they were standard editions, when they were the exact same bundle that comes with the wolk link amiibo.
>have to make all of it yourself rather than the developers making it and already having it there to jump into
Stopped reading there. You don't have to make a single thing in Terraria. You can find stuff and buy stuff, but other than that you can basically live in a hovel and advance the game all the way to the moon lord.
>free content that took a week at the most to create
>it doesn't cost 5 million dollars in graphical design, that makes it bad
>defending on disc DLC
The updates didn't come out originally anon, unless you're just purchasing it you have to go online to access the updates. In the case of a purchase unless it's the console versions which are physical as well if I remember right you still have to go online.
don't twist my words. I said they shouldn't have to make it free. If they want to make a profit they can charge it. If not they can give it for free. Just because one company does it doesn't mean that everybody should follow it.
Are people really defending this with "it comes with this version of the game so its free with the game".
Are you also saying that "the season pass comes with this version of the game so its free with the game"? Because that's literally the same thing.
Calling the version that comes with the Amiibo "standard" doesnt make it standard.
What about used?
What about digital?
What about when they end up releasing a version thats just the disk?
You're locking those people behind the dungeon which in inside the games files that they paid for because they didnt buy a factory made kids toy with their game.
Are the manchildren who brought a Wii U really this much of a cancer? Amiibos are bad but defending this shit is beyond worse.
And? It was still free. What's the problem?
>I said they shouldn't have to make it free.
Yes, they do. It's a competitive market, and if they can't keep up, that's too bad.
>b-but Nintendo is in first place! they're making money on it!
So? Sony's made countless millions on their Ps4. Does that make it a good console?
>Are people really
Read the thread.
>the season pass comes with this version of the game so its free with the game
That's not the standard edition, so no.
>Calling the version that comes with the Amiibo "standard" doesnt make it standard
But it being the standard edition DOES make it standard.
>What about used?
>What about digital?
>What about when they end up releasing a version thats just the disk?
I dont think so.
The underages that come here wouldnt be the ones who buy Nintendo games.
I think its just straight up manchildren, and i honestly believe they're the only people buying Amiibos. You take a look of images taken outside of retailers the day of a new Amiibo being released and its all like 20-30 year olds with a neck beard. Its never a parent or something or god forbid a kid.
Standard is the game and nothing but the game, anon.
Saying Standard is Game+Amiibo makes literally no sense, because the game can be brought without the Amiibo, and the people who dont buy the Amiibo bundle are getting locked out of a Dungeon thats on the disk and inside the games files unless they go out and buy the Amiibo? The bundle is $10 more than the standard game, so clearly its not standard.
How are you defending this?
>b-but Nintendo is in first place! they're making money on it!
are you just being stupid because I said nothing of the sort.
>Yes, they do. It's a competitive market, and if they can't keep up, that's too bad.
What market? Nintendo is doing fine. Not every DLC must be free.
>You can find stuff and buy stuff, but other than that you can basically live in a hovel and advance the game all the way to the moon lord.
So what you're saying is that the player has to go out and find the means to access the content as opposed to it being there already?
How is that any better? It's just taking the longer route.
Also you're forgetting that the main appeal of these games are the varying structures you can make. Even the base Mario Maker levels provided more variety in those 100 levels.
>>it doesn't cost 5 million dollars in graphical design, that makes it bad
Tut tut anon, now you're placing words into other people's mouth. No one ever said it was bad, just that you can't compare the two on the same level because one obviously had more input during development and requires more manhours to finish.
HD graphics and a new dungeon unlocked by the included amiibo.
You realize this "New dungeon is probably just going to be another Cave of ordeals right? It won't have any important items, it can't. They'd throw off the story.
It just going to be chockfilled with rupees to make the game easier. Thats it.
>console game from any company
>console game with a collectible figure from nintendo
>WOW NINTENDO IS THE WORST COMPANY OF ALL TIME HURR REEEE
I think a better implementation of Amiibo would be to restrict the base game to 1 hour per month. And then you use an Amibo to add minutes to it. I've been sending NIntendo this suggestion for awhile hopefully they will do it
Just think Amiibo could be used more than it is.
>on disc DLC that requires a happy meal toy to unlock
>people defend this
What is wrong with you people? Why are gamers the dumbest consumers on the planet? Why do they willingly and gladly support non-consumer friendly shit and pay for things that were free yesterday?