Why is this allowed?

I wont get the amiibo and dont care about the dungeon.
The colours dungeon in Links Awakening for Gameboy Colour might as well not exist.

>>324312835
Actual source?

And dont say Amazon because they have no credibility as a leak source. Especially foreign ones.

Because Nintendo did it.

because neotendo KNOW people will buy into this amiibo bullshit, so why not start locking content behind them.

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>>324312835

would you prefer if the amiino did nothing?

>>324313504
You mean content they wouldn't have even bother adding if it weren't for the amiibo?

>>324313639
Yes you fucking autist. I don't want to buy shitty toys for the occasional Nintendo game I buy.

Because it's fun

>>324313639
No, but it'd be better if it wasn't actual content locked behind it. Make it unlock a neat skin or something superficial.

DELETE THIS

>>324313639
Yes because then I won't miss out on content that is locked behind an overpriced McDonald's toy.

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>>324313639
Actually, yes. I would. That way, there's no paywalled content, and autists can keep collecting their stupid toys.

>>324313639
ye

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>>324312835
This is a photoshop right?
>Physical DLC
>That will be sold out

Yeah, no way this is real, nice ruse OP

This is why I've hacked my 3DS and buy all my games used.

This is why Nintendo is dying

>>324314135
>That will be sold out
It won't be, comes with all copies of the game

>>324313639
I hope they "lock" more content behind amiibo just to see people like the ones replying to you continue to be mad.

>>324314135
It probably isn't. Some translated foreign Amazon page had it as a thing on the bundle page, which anyone that's not retarded can tell instantly how credible that actually is.


Though, as you probably know how shitty journo sites are, they rushed to make articles for them clicks, and people of course bought into it.

>>324313883
then dont, i dont. i have quite a number of games that have amiibo functionalities and i dont own any amiibo and i dont feel worse off for it because ultimately what they give dont matter.

>>324313952
Again, the "autists" as you call them would collect the toys whether or not they did something, its unrelated. they get some extra shit with it, good for them, its their choice what they spend their money on, nobody is forcing them.

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>>324312835

I want to cum all over that figure.

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>>324314602
>implied lewds
Literally my fetish.

Post more midna x wolf link

>>324314553
This. The content that are on amiibo really aren't that big.

People only make a big deal about it because they're literally just looking for reasons to whine and bitch, and to direct it at Nintendo since that's such a popular bandwagon to jump into.

They call people collecting amiibo autistic, then turn around to act like complete autists.

>>324314830
>it's ok to lock content behind physical merchandise because the content isn't important!

Do you just have no principles or something?

>>324312835
because people will buy it
really really really simple not hard at all question

>>324315071
It is okay though. You just can't tell because you're an entitled little babby who still lives with mommy.

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Remember when horse armor was almost universally despised?

What happened?

>>324314830
Okay, I'll give you that's been true for the most part, but surely you can see the worry people have when are locking more and more content behind amiibo. It's fine when it's pissy little shit that doesn't really matter, but a whole dungeon? That's starting to cross into locking away chunks of real content.

>>324314602
Can I join

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>>324312835
>>324313639
>5 years from now
>amiibos no longer produced or distributed
>have to pay $500 for an amiibo to get all of the content on a game

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>>324313639
I would prefer if it actually looked good.

>>324315276
It wasn't "despised", it was treated like a laughingstock, like a joke.

>>324315276
muh slippery slope ended up becoming a reality.

>>324314502
*While supplies last

>>324314602
More

>>324315235
>entitled

There's that word again!

>>324315405
>5 years from now
>old console store servers down, can't buy or download DLC for any old games
>literally permalocked out of actually significant content

>>324315405
Lets hope emulation will fix this problem.

>>324313883
>Yes because then I won't miss out on content that is locked behind an overpriced McDonald's toy.
You wouldn't have that content at all.

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>>324313686
>You mean content they wouldn't have even bother adding if it weren't for the amiibo?

I remember when Nintendo added tons of content to their remakes without locking it behind McDonald's toys.

>>324315456
Either way, people weren't defending it.

>>324312835
>comes with standard edition

its free with the fucking copy you faggots

>>324315747
yeah, don't you fuckers pretend for one moment you wouldn't need a wario, luigi, and/or yoshi amiibo to play the other characters if this came out today.

>>324315276
>horse armour
>overpriced digital product
>one game
>purely aesthetic

>amiibo
>physical product
>multiple games
>multiple uses

>>324312835
That's a really ugly figure.

wolf link is really hot

>>324315649
>5 years from now
>Sony, Microsoft or even Nintendo doesn't care if I softmod a legacy system
>Get every DLC I want, even on-disc DLC
>Except content locked behind the amiibos

I other hand, what is Aunoma/Nintendo thinking? They changed a lot of MM for the 3DS remake, a game that only needed a graphical update and some minor fixes but they don't change anything of TP, a game that screams for some major fixes and content and then, they only add a dungeon locked behind an amiibo.

>For other systems have to pay for online if you want to play with friends from around the globe.
>Nintendo tries to convince you to buy amiibos for unlockable content while having free Internet.
Why isn't there more threads about paying for online gaming on the other systems?

>>324314830
That kind of thinking is literally how we went from thinking horse armor was ok to thinking literally locked content that is already in the game out is ok.

So you telling me if I were to make a game with gameplay you personally like you wouldn't mind me purposefully disallowing you from touching some of the areas already built into the disk until you pay me extra for what you already pay for?

Let me put it this way, lets say you order some pizza but right before the guy hand it to you he take out two slices and ask you to pay him $5 extra to get those two slices back that you already pay for. People aren't being entitled, they just not being retarded like you are. Learn to fucking think for yourself, if you are on this site then you should be legally an adult and should start thinking like one. If you aren't 18 then opinion doesn't mean shit as legally speaking you shouldn't even be here and most likely get your parents to buy the shit for you.

>>324312835
What sucks is the dungeon will just be like a boss rush or some bullshit.
Nintendo has been really shit at adding new content to remakes when they do it.

>>324315747
>enhanced ports are remakes

>>324315963
>I needed a rosalina amiibo to play as her in MK, 3D World and Smash
Stay mad shitposter.
Even the Shadow Mewtwo card in Pokken only serves as an instant unlock while the character can be unlocked through conventional means.

It's just DLC with a physical toy. I don't understand why people are surprised, this was bound to happen eventually.

>>324316314
>MK, 3D World
Amiibo wasn't even out yet when those were released, dumb fuck.

>>324316206
>Food analogies
Let's make this more amiibo related now
>lets say you order some pizza but right before the guy says he has a box with two more slices in his car but asks you to pay an extra $5 for it.

>>324315276
I think a better example would be Metal Gear Solid's save data for Mantis

>I need to buy and play other games for this extra content
>50 per line physical DLC?!

>People are literally complaining about a toy company that started to make games are mixing their toys with their games.

>>324314602
I love midna porn but that was just gross.

Even if it's true, it quite clearly isn't part of the main game, yeah, sure, it's DLC, but seriously, who the fuck cares? You probably already OWN this game, and are willing to pay for owning it again, but extra stuff costs extra? BLASPHEMOUS!

>>324312835
because its fun? i just preordered and cant wait. alot of games have stuff like this, how is it any different than a DLC or season pass? at least u get an amiibo out of it! you STUPID FUCK

>>324316314
Shadow Mewtwo is an exception. Most of the content unlocked with amiibos can't be unlocked any other way.
I imagine a lot of people would be more cool with it if Nintendo also sold that content as cheap DLC.
Don't want an amiibo? Buy the DLC for that specific game.
Like amiibo? Buy an amiibo and get the figure, plus a savings by getting on the DLC free across all games.

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>>324312835
>I'm NOW bitching about things that have been a thing since forever

>>324316206

>pizza analogy
>every fucking time

I think we know who here actually needs to grow up.

>Skylanders finally dying due to how the newest game turned out
I wonder if they'll jump on this and make their own amiibo specific game.

>>324316206
>take out two slices and ask you to pay him $5 extra
This isn't what is happening. And your analogy is stupid amiibo are not locked to one game and you can sell it.

>>324312835
unacceptable.

>>324316691
Were you bitching before it was cool?

>>324316314
Mario 64 DS was pretty much a remake. None of the original assets are in there. Every 3D model is redone. It's a reimagining of Mario 64 in every sense.

post THICK midna

>>324316691
What do you mean by that?

>>324316373
Nor was Smash, what's your point?
They're still compatible with Amiibo and have multiple characters not bound to an Amiibo jackass.

>>324316681
I think one of the problems is that people are putting too much worth behind the "content" locked behind the Amiibo anyway.

>>324316863
ALttP had exclusive dungeons locked behind paywalls as well.

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Isn't it ironic that Wind Waker, the "kiddy" Zelda, got a legitimate figure while Twilight Princess, the supposedly mature Zelda, gets a glorified happy meal toy?

>>324316959

Care to explain your likely shitty post?

>>324313686
Yeah, they were really doing us a charity act with the $50 / $60 upres of a game that's finished. Without the amiibo there certainly wouldn't have been enough extra change to add a dungeon.

>>324316951
The point is that why would they lock characters behind something that isn't even out yet? Not even Nintendo is that retarded.

I refunded Shovel Knight on Steam because of this amiibo bullshit

>>324317208
>The point is that why would they lock characters behind something that isn't even out yet?
Ask yourself that, you're the one saying that they would.

>>324316227
Exactly, added content from nintendo is almost always passable and mediocre. I really cant think of any dlc by them that begs for your attention, I guess save the smash characters.

>>324312835
Amiibo are selling like crazy and I doubt the little shitty extras games give you are any part of it. Nintendo doesn't even need to link content to it, people were already buying them up just to collect them.

I just don't get it.

>>324317151
GBA Link cables

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>>324316862

>>324316354
You can't access new content or DLC with your original TP versions, it's something logical, the Wii and the GC are legacy systems, if you want the new content you have to buy the new version, that again is something logical, but in the past, Nintendo offered that new content with your purchase, you didn't need to pay extra. A few examples:
Link´s Awekening DX had a new dungeon + the photo album gimmick.
Metroid Zero Mission has a huge graphical update, new mechanics, new physics, new areas, new bosses, revamped music and also, included the original Metroid.
Super Mario 64 DS has three new characters, new areas, 30 new stars, some extra bosses, minigames, a drawing gimmick and a little multiplayer mode.
This was included with your purchase and doesn't needed extra stuff.
For TP you need to pay 60 dollars again for the base game + extra for an amiibo if you want an extra dungeon.

>>324317325
>I just don't get it.
What's not to get?

A lot of the Amiibo are cheap merch of Characters that don't get any like Ness and G&W.

>>324317151
You need to buy an extra GBA, a link cable and a extra copy of the game to access all the content.

>but just ask a friend!

Well big guy, just ask a friend to lend you their amiibo, then.

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Stop complaining and post more Midna

>>324313639

Uhm...yes? It's Physical DLC. Even worse...ON DISC DAY ONE PHYSICAL DLC.

>But the toy...

An useless extra for people who don't want those shits. I only see a pay-wall behind a dungeon.

>>324317414
That's your argument? Because everyone had GBA Link cables to trade pokémon and fight against your friends.

>>324317486
You're forgetting that E-cards existed.

>>324312835
They need to stop making new, useless amiibo and starting giving the previously released amiibo some actual usage. If the regular Link amiibo unlocked the dungeon it wouldn't be half as bad as this

>>324317505
I don't get why they are locking increasingly significant content behind it when the extra content was not really the reason everyone was buying them up anyway.

>>324317325
>I just don't get it.
They're cheap, they have functionality in a ton of games, they're either iconic characters everyone loves (Mario, DK, Link, Kirby etc) or niche characters with a rabid fanbase (Ness, Samus, Captain Falcon etc) or real crazy inclusions (Pacman, G&W, Bayonetta etc)

It would be crazy if it didn't sell.

>>324317417
>>324317554
more
booty

>>324313639

Are you talking about amiibos or amino acids?

>>324317638
They also bombed because people back then apparantly weren't retarded.

>>324317325
Because if figures are your thing, they aren't half bad ones.
I know the whole happy meal toy meme is a thing, but they're honestly just fine for something you can walk in a western store and buy for 13 bucks. Go into Wal-Mart and compare them with toys you can find there for the same price instead of far more expensive Japanese statues and you'll see they aren't actually bad quality figures.

>>324313686
>you mean content they added to a game that came out years ago that you have to buy again

>>324317697
>increasingly significant content
[Citation Needed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHu7hvxjdww

Remember when people thought Twilight Princess was going to be good?

>>324317771
Well, they are now. People on /v/ pushed these Amiibo things.

>>324317283
>Not getting a refund after they locked an entire boss fight behind a console
>Not just pirating it

>>324317612

literally free and comes with it

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You people are seriously dumb.

When you buy the game it comes with the amiibo, its not an extra $15 purchase like you make it out to be.

There are no standalone copies, every copy you buy will come with the amiibo bundled, same as Chibi robo and Animal crossing party.

You pay a flat $60 like any other wii-U game.

Stop spreading rumors.

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>>324317754
I deleted all my Midna lewds because my boyfriend didn't like me looking at big booty waifus

>>324317414

You just had to buy the game.

Hell, there was even cases in which you could play multiplayer with only one cartridge like F-Zero.

>>324313639
I would rather they didn't disc lock content behind a physical key

>>324316005
>horse armour
>not Nintendo

>amiibo
>Nintendo

ftfy family

>>324317725
>>324317786

See

>>324317697

>>324317865
(you)

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>IT'S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
nintendrones defend this!

>>324317486
Metroid Prime locked the original Metroid and Fusion Suit behind Fusion connectivity so you would have to buy the connector, game and GBA to access the content.
SMB3 remake had the E-Reader content.
Up until HG/SS the only way to get Ho-oh and Lugia outside of an event were Colosseum and Gale of Darkness.
On the topic of Pokemon Ranger and Manaphy and Ranch and Mew.
This >>324317542

It goes back much farther than Amiibo and it gets much "worse". Especially with SMB3 where they locked several levels as opposed to TPHD's single dungeon.

>>324317852
Smash Bros.: glorified CPUs
Mario Party: shitty small game boards
Yoshi Yarn: A yoshi skin
MK8: A mii costume
Zelda: A dungeon

>>324317956
>being gay
Who does that?

>>324318030
>increasingly significant content
[Citation Needed]

>>324317925
>Game costs 45 bucks
>Game with the toy included costs 60.

Is this your definition of "free"?

>>324318165
How does that prove your point?

>>324317956
sounds like a shit relationship, enjoy your break up

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>>324318172
>implying

>>324317953
The game is $50 without it. See the digital version.

>>324318165
>save file
>shitty boards
>skin
>skin
>a dungeon of unknown worth
How is this 'increasingly significant content'?

>>324318280
>>324318227

amazon prime members get it for $48 with the figure. not my fault you faggots arent prime members

>>324318247

From almost no use to skins to a whole fucking dungeon in a dungeon based game.

>>324318227
And where have they said it's $45? Or are you just making random shit up in order to shitpost?

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>>324318252
I did, thanks

I'm rebuilding all my folders now
that's what I'm here for.

Post more best girl

>>324318196
The splatoon stuff and this dungeon don't count because you say so then?

>>324318024
You didn't fix anything.

>>324318092
Please take your console warring elsewhere.

>>324316314
>not a remake
This is the worst goalpost moving ever

>>324318261
Post proof you're not gay then. :^)

Or are you one of those guys that day other guys in some weird attempt to feel some form of love?

it will be a shitty dungeon just to justify the amiibo and get retards to buy it

mark my words

>>324317881
Collectors pushed Amiibo things and some of them browse /v/, a tiny vidya community. The rest of them are browsing reddit, 9gag, Facebook and other sites.

>>324318419
>stages already in the game with remix conditions
>'significant content'
What.

>>324316623
They were a playing card factory first

>>324318359
>How's a dungeon in a Zelda game significant content?
>>324318381

Official shops have it at 45€ and the Amiivo version at 60€. Just did the stupid 1$-1€ conversion Nintendo usually does.

>>324318280
The digital version is $50 because it's digital. The physical version would be $60 even without the amiibo.

>>324318364
It's still $60. Okay so you get the Amazon discount, it's still a $60 game. You get all preorders for $48 that doesn't mean those aren't $60 games.

>>324318375
We have no idea what the scale of this dungeon is anon.
At the most it'll be something along the lines of the shitty Mario Party boards.

>>324318419
The Splatoon content was literally the main game + a lenient time attack and the roller.

>>324318652
>>How's a dungeon in a Zelda game significant content?
>'dungeon'
>no details
>could be hole in the ground with boss rush mode
Ok, anon.

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>>324317995
Not him, but No. Thats not true at all.

You needed two copies of Alttp to even play Four swords, and good luck finding a friend at the age who had it too. I always wanted to play FS as a kid and never could because all my friends were sonic fans.

You needed:

2 GBAs
a Link cable
2 alttp Carts

And then for the Four sword dungeon temple in the actual game, you had to complete fourswords. Yeah, good luck with that.

And lets go even further, FSA for the gamecube, The multiplayer is literally locked to GBA control.

If you wanted to play multiplayer, you needed FOUR GBAs, and FOUR link cables.

Couldnt use a GC controller, had to be a GBA.

Shit was so fucking stupid.

>>324312835
>n-nintendo is saving the industry guys! no dlc guys! amiibos are different, guys!

>>324318619
You can feign ignorance on /v/'s behalf all you want but you and I both know this is Nintendogaf and people here scalped the shit out of these shitty plastic toys.

Also attempted to make custom amiibos by not thinning their goddamn paints.

>>324318695
>that doesn't mean those aren't $60 games.

arent for me and any nonretard thats smart enough to get prime. what the fuck do i care about casual consumers for

>>324315071
He's a damage controlling Treehouse employee

>>324318767
Who are you quoting?

>>324318419
And what about Splatoon was significant? 3 costumes that have nothing special going on about them?

Wow. That's totally a big deal.

>>324317325
>more content locked behind it
>more sales
>new game
>new reason to introduce a whole new line
>even more sales
What is there not to get.
Its pretty obvious that they dont care about the usability of ammibos, in which case they would have added the unlock function to one of the dozen zelda series amiibos that are already on the market, but the additional amiibo sales they can make.

>>324318227
>Game costs 45 bucks

In what universe?

3DS games are 39.99 new
Wii U games are 59.99 new

No exceptions. no changes, unless pre-owned ot knocked down in price, that is MSRP.

>>324318364


Man, that's like saying you get "free" games from PS+ and XBL.

>>324318568
>2016
>Aunoma making a new dungeon
>It will be shit
No shit sherlock

>>324318728
This.

And there's nothing actually confirming this is even happening. People are just going full retard over some translated amazon page.

So it's ok for companies to sell games where you need Internet to play them but it's not ok for Nintendo to sell amiibos?

>>324318280
>Digital version

Digital is ALWAYS $10 cheaper. see every game on the market. Thats the point of digital in the first place.

Physical has always been 59.99 and not a cent less.

>>324318906
Both games depicted got the remake they deserved

>>324318906
>Neo-Nintendo meme
Everythread.

>I-it's not console wars guys
lol

>>324318821

I got my WiiU for free and I don't say "WiiU cost 0$" just because mine was.

It was the 1st price of a raffle I randomly signed up and won

>>324318621
Increasingly is the key word here.
Surely you can see that
nothing < skins < remixed stages (splatoon) < new dungeon (twilight princess)
Nintendo is slowly but surely locking more and more stuff behind amiibo and you are fucking defending it.
I actually like amiibo in concept, too, I just don't want to see them become something you have to have to get a complete game experience.

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>>324318936

but i do get free games since my PS+ was free with my bundle

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>>324318732
>tfw
>port 4swords to wiiu
>make it online
>profit

nintendo is just retarded

>>324318906
It's only bad when Nintendo does it.

It's literally okay if anyone else does it.

>>324319045
>Increasingly is the key word here.
>save file
>skins
>skins
>skins
>skins
>increasingly
Amazing.

>>324318881

Some games are released at 44.99. I remember Bayo2 and TW101 being 44.99 at launch.

>>324319019
>COMPANIES NEVER CHANGE, EVER.

Fuck off kid. Some of us are actually old enough to remember the NES.

>>324312835
>Game comes with the amiibo

>>324319104
>It's only bad when Nintendo does it.
This.

>>324319000
Because this bad thing exists, you can't complain about any other bad things.

>>324318906

Don't forget the age group for paying N64 zelda was 4-13 years old and to many both OoT and MM was very hard. I had a friend in grade school at the time who could not pass MM without the full strategy guide. Years later he bought me the collectors edition TP guide as gift. Honestly I never used it.

>>324312835

>game comes with free amiibo
>bad

>>324318732

Stupid, yes, but as I said YOU just had to buy the game.
Your shitty friends only playing sonic is irrelevant.

>>324318769
>this is Nintendogaf and people here scalped the shit out of these shitty plastic toys.
>Doing business taking advantage of retarded fanboys for extra cash makes people Nintendo fans.
Sure buddy

>>324318906
>instantly deleted

Wow, pathetic

>>324319204
>COMPANIES NEVER CHANGE, EVER.
Nintendo has changed the least since the Gamecube.

Hell the NES first US commercial was
>gimmicks!
>gimmicks!
>ROB (physical DLC)!
>gimmicks!

>>324319238
>you can only complain about one company but not any other

What kind of drone logic is this?

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>>324319208

Not all the games come with the Amiibo.

>>324319360
>it is only bad when [Company] does it
What are you? A drone?

>>324319360
I dunno, ask the people that are only ever complaining about one company.

But like you're saying. It's literally okay when it's anyone else.

>>324319360
Ask the people complaining about Nintendo while defending worse practices on top of outright deceit.

>>324319327
You make it sound like that isn't how Nintendo got big in the first place. Taking advantage of retarded fanboys IS the Nintendo way.

Honestly? I don't see the issue. If you're a Nintendo fan you obviously still enjoy toys and collectability. You wouldn't be a nintendo fan otherwise, you'd just emulate their games via PC.

You like their games and merchandise, so why are you so against the idea that Nintendo, a toy company, would market toys?

Quite frankly I wish sony and capcom would do the same, I'd love to have more individualized little collectable figures of all my favorite Vidya, could have Phoenix wright, Amaterasu, The whole street fighter line, Dante, RE Characters, the list is endless and marketable.

>>324312835
Because nintendrones will grab anything Nintendo shits out.

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>>324312835
PHYSICAL DLC

>>324319351
Yeah I totally remember Nintendo locking content behind paywalls back then, that sure did happen. ROB was a peripheral, not physical DLC.

>>324319405
>pii u
>IT'S NOT A CONSOLE WAR THREAD
Ok.

>>324319001
WindWaker HD released for $50 physical and digital.

>>324312835

Honestly this game, my dead hopes for a star fox game and a Wii-U animal crossing where the only games I was looking forward too in the Wii-U and my only reason to buy the console.

>>324319405
>paying for reservations
What the fuck

>>324318881
>wii u games
This is a gamecube game.

>>324319535
>ROB was a peripheral,
Gyromite and Stack-up were nigh unplayable when playing solo without it.
Same goes for Duck Hunt.

>>324319535
ROB was physical DLC.
A paywall.
He literally was.

And he was in the first US commercial.

>>324314553
>as you call them would collect the toys whether or not they did something
that's his point dumbass. they will buy their plastic shit even if they did nothing. So making them not hide content would hurt nothing, this is completely anti-consumer

>>324318385
type ex boyfriend not boyfriend. friend.

>>324319405
And you realize they're probably doing that of their own choice, right? Seems the amiibo is still available there too. So, people can't complain about it being impossible to get when it's available right now.

>>324319564
>YOU HAVE TO LIKE AND BUY EVERY SINGLE THING NINTENDO DOES

It's not a console warrior thread, right?

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>>324318881

>tfw everything is more and more expensive as a canadian gamer.

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>People thinking Nintendo was above this
>Nintendrones in full damage control

>>324319469
>>324319476
And who is doing this exactly?

>>324319294
>YOU had to buy the game
>Friends are irrelevant

Then how do you play multiplayer genius?

I'd gladly have paid $12 bucks for an amiibo back then to unlock the content rather then going out of my way to find someone who bought the same game, or spending a fortune just to buy another copy, AND another GBA.

Face it, this is far cheaper then most alternatives, Hell Pokemon should start doing this so we don't have to buy both versions every gen, would save a few bucks. just release a version mascot amiibo that unlocks all of that versions exclusive pokemon.

>>324319610
It's the same way you would pay a deposit on a pre order anon.

>>324319610

The preorder price gets substracted from the game when you pay.

>>324319741
>this bait
You know the answer you're looking for but you're just looking for an excuse to shitpost again.

>>324313639
How about this instead:

The amiibo unlocks the bonus dungeon right away for you to go to, but if you don't have the amiibo, you have to go through a series of quests and obtain in-game items that unlock the bonus dungeon without the use of an amiibo.

Just outright locking the content behind an amiibo and not providing a challenging but fair alternative to unlocking said content without an amiibo is a dick move that should not be supported.

>>324319661
thats funny. I dont think you ever owned one. it was way easier to play the games without the robot. And thats what most kids ended up doing. Still was cool as shit and I would buy again.

>>324319705

It's an official selling point. Doubt they can do that "at they own"

>>324319668
Why don't you learn some history kid, ROB was a trojan horse to get toy stores to stock video games again after the 80's crash. No one gave a fuck about ROB, they never locked SMB levels or LoZ dungeons behind a ROB DLC.

>>324319761

...you're really alone, aren't you?

>>324319946
>Physical paywall
>Still was cool as shit and I would buy again.
IT'S OK WHEN _

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Any game that requires you to pay for DLC is instantly bad in my eyes. It should come free with he game, or should release for free after the fact.

Terraria did it, Shovel Knight did it, FTL did it, even TF2 does it by allowing you to get the content ingame without paying a penny. What's Nintendo's excuse?

>muh money

>>324319668
never owned a rob the post.

>>324319927
Or how about just selling us the DLC digital for the same price, so we have the OPTION of buying it and not have it forced on us with the purchase.

I want the Dungeon, I DON'T want the shitty happy meal toy.

>>324312835
Because you retards bought Nintendo's ridiculous artificially limited low quality physical DLC because "It just unlocks a new AI character, it's totally not DLC".
This told Nintendo that you unironically enjoy eating shit, and so Nintendo served you more shit. Congrats.

>>324319831
>no comeback so I'll just shitpost

Thanks for admitting you lost.

>>324316150
Well we do know that they made the wallet hold twice as many rupies, and the Tear segements have been shortened to have only 12 tears instead of 16

>>324319915
Yeah, that's what I thought. Drone harder.

>>324319927
Except you morons would then complain about it anyway.

Why else would you be posting in this thread if not for something to bitch about?

Any and all possible arguments on this subject have already happened on multiple occasions. Only point now is to piss others off.

>>324319968
>Why don't you learn some history kid
>Physical paywall for Gyromite and Stack-up
>B-b-but it was ok back then
lol

>>324320070
>anon gives a scenario where you get it for free
>NO I WANT TO PAY!
Are you really that retarded?

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WAIT! Guys... wait..
What if...
Not only we hide new content for old games behind a pay wall.
But...
but...

What if we made these physical DLCs....

In limited supply?
Scalpers gotta eat, too.

Nintendo is quite aware its fanbase will buy it

>>324320096
>just shitpost
That's what you're doing yes.

>Thanks for admitting you lost.
(you)

>>324320151
Did you NEED him to play the game? No.

>>324320034
it wasnt a physical pay wall no one ever used it. Shit was a gimmick. still one of the coolest gimmicks I ever had.

>>324312835
Because it comes with every copy of the game, who cares?

>>324320229
It's included as standard.

>>324320305
Just like amiibo.

>>324320324
>it wasnt a physical pay wall
(you)

>>324320208
>Do a bunch of shitty half-assed sidequests to unlock something or pay for it outright.

Yeah no, I'd pay. I had my fair of shitty update quests with runescape. I'd rather just get the content instead of do meaniningless dribble for it.

Cmon, do you expect nintendo to put effort into something like that? I'tll be backtrack hell through popular areas and collect the chickens or some crap like that.

>People are honestly defending amiibos this hard
Why? For what purpose? I don't understand

>>324319741
Valvedrones and DRM
Xbots and paid online

And the big one Sonyggers with all of the above with the addition of going into Nintendo, Steam and Microsoft threads and shitposting incessantly to no end.
And if you have anything to say about those terrible practices?

>b-but Sony
Every
Single
Time
You literally can't criticize Sony without a horde of them jumping on your ass.

>>324312835
>people still defend Amiibo

I can't wait for the NX to outright require Amiibo to do certain shit. It'll be funny to see people scrambling to defend that as well.

>>324320389
what? it wasnt no one used it. And the games they made for it sucked anyway. It was a blatent gimmick.

>>324320537

What about us PC owners who don't rely on steam as if it was their only way of playing games? The true PC gamers who use GOG, or uplay, or just bypass them all entirely?

Are we not allowed to complain about terrible practices like this?

>>324320217
[SPIC SQUEAKING NOISES INTENSIFY]

>>324320549
>what? It was a blatent gimmick.
It was physical DLC.

>>324312835

Keep killing yourself Nintendo.

>>324320305
>Did you NEED him to play the game? No.
You do if you want to play the games without switching between two controllers when playing solo.
God forbid you didn't have a second controller and wanted to play those games because you were fucked if you didn't have ROB.

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I just buy them for the figures, I don't even own a wii-U or a 3DS.

>>324320531
Because people like arguing about pointless things they'll forget about before long.

>>324320727
?

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>>324320854

>>324320537
We'll see a monthly paid premium service from Valve long before we see Half Life 3.

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>glorified remake above 20 dollars

That's where I stop reading. Your game isn't worth over 20 dollars Nintendo.

>>324320809
>amiibo are one of their best sellers
>Zelda always sell
>Keep killing yourself Nintendo.
Is this Pachter?

>the content the Amiibo unlocks is free, it's a gift for buying the collectible item!

Right, and PS+ games are free, they're just gifts for buying a subscription to the service, right?

Get fucking real. You're being had and you don't even realize it. And now it's too fucking late to do anything. They've gotten the message. Amiibo are more popular than the fucking Wii U. You really think that will steer them in the right direction?

>>324313639

The only acceptable thing would have been for amiibos to not exist in the first place and the new dungeon to just be in the game locked behind nothing.

>>324320061
Nintendo's excuse is that investors want them to increase their profits by 400% in the next 3 years. They sure as hell aren't going to do that by increasing sales.

>>324320769
no it wasnt. It had like 2 games. it was to break into the western market and it worked. There were all kinds of neat robot toys being sold at that time.

>>324320697
Then you're a fucking drone.
Every service has some kind of anti-consumer feature so if you place it on a pedestal above the rest then you're a fucking retard.

>>324320543
Who's scrambling, exactly?

You sperglords still haven't provided an actual counterargument to the fact that this comes with every retail copy of the game, ultimately rendering any and all shitposts like this as nothing more than blowing hot air. You're angry at something you're 100% getting in the package.

And nice tin foil hat theory about the NX; let's assume they'll continue on with amiibos as they print money - there's still nothing indicative that amiibos will be required to play a game in full. All of these inclusions have either been additional or supplementary content or cosmetics. How you managed to leap to an extreme negative outcome is beyond me, but hey, I'm dealing with neo-/v/ after all..

>>324320973
>n-no it wasn't
Sorry it was.

>>324320537
>Valvedrones and DRM

Digital purchases are tied to the system on Nintendo, and they defend that all the time.

>You literally can't criticize Sony without a horde of them jumping on your ass

That is fucking rich coming from a Nintendo fan.

>>324313639
Yes. In fact, I think amiibos are fucking stupid and a huge scam for Nintendo to Jew out its consumers.

>>324312835
Because Nintendo is going back to what they did in the 50s and 60s and mixing it with what made them popular in the first place.

But I still don't see why Nintendo could take the time to do digital DLC instead of of figurines with exclusive shit inside.

>>324320962
Who are you quoting?

>>324318732
>You needed:
>
>2 GBAs
>a Link cable
>2 alttp Carts

All online multiplayer is physical DLC, you BOTH need computers, and you BOTH have to PAY MONEY to an ISP

>>324312835
ITS

>>324320932
>Pachter.
Nice meme.

>>324321053

Now, when did I ever do that?

>>324321159
INCLUDED

>>324320543
Shit, I'm not going to be laughing about it. I like a lot of the games Nintendo puts out. I don't want to be getting my games in pieces, and while in the past Nintendo has been reasonably good about avoiding the DLC trap that most major consoles have been pushing, Amiibo has made me worried that they're surging past them with their own turbo-jew ways. I'm actually starting to hope that somebody can figure out a way to hack Amiibos, so to speak, where you could trick the game into thinking you own whichever one you want, because while I don't advocate piracy or theft what they're doing is just downright ridiculous.

>>324313639
Yes.

I'd rather Nintendo fuck off with the day 1 DLC altogether. Nobody buys Amiibo for the in-game content, they're bought because they're official toys from Nintendo. I'm never going to buy an Amiibo when they're used for cancerous shit like this, in fact it's putting me off from buying the game from all.

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>>324319726
>twilight princess hd 79.99
>xenoblade chroniclies 74.99 (special edition 129.99)

>>324321130
And where did I ever say that was wrong? Its completely right. Every system has these rules, but keep in mind that the average person has a Pc or Mac, and both are capable of running simple online games.

A GBA at that time was a birthday gift. not an expectancy.

>>324313639
I would prefer if NoA was competent enough to keep high demand products in stock.

>>324321130
>Trying to compare essential hardware and services to gimmicks.

Bottom of the barrel/10

>>324321061
Except there are also versions without the toy.

If you took Kimishima's dick out of your mouth you would see that.

>>324321071
Yeah that's why they kept him around right? That's why there were ROB games on the SNES and N64 right? Fuck off underage.

>>324321385
>Yeah
Thanks for admitting you where wrong.

>>324312835
Doesn't the amiibo come with the game?

>>324321343
>Except there are also versions without the toy.
The Standard Edition has the toy included.

As Standard.

>>324321451
Legit fuck yourself, you shitposting child.

>>324321541
it does. people are being stupid about it because they saw a deal on amazon prime to get the game cheaper in their country.

>>324321541

It ups the price to 60 dollars.

>>324321385
Stop arguing with him. I just backread your entire conversation, and he's clearly a retard that doesn't understand what an accessory is.

Is the news even confirmed yet

>>324315649
>significant
It's an EXTRA dungeon. It's not anything substantial most likely.
It's probably a crappy new weapon that's only used a few places in game for extra rupees.
I don't see the big fuss. If you're upset by this, don't pay 12 bucks for the amiibo. It's that fucking simple.

>>324316150
>Except content locked behind the amiibos
It's in its infancy but there's also third party (hardware for the moment, unfortunately) that can hack an amiibo.

>>324321603
>crying over losing on the internet
Jesus Christ.

>>324321091
>Digital purchases are tied to the system on Nintendo, and they defend that all the time.
No one defends that, usually though it's telling people how it's tied to both the account and system so you can just phone them up and download it to another system.

>That is fucking rich coming from a Nintendo fan.
>implying I'm a Nintendofan for having a perspective on this shit
Everyone jumps on the shit of others but no other fanbase gets all up in arms as the Sony fanbase. It's getting to the point where they justify PS+ with that shitty digital rental system and mediocre security.
There have been threads where they say that Sony being hacked and revealing user information was "blown out of proportion".

They, by far, are the worst group in the video game community.

>>324321130
Don't forget you need
>A tv
>several chairs
>don't have any friends so I gues I have to pay some homeless people
>they don't have any place to stay so I guess I have to get food for them
>Oh, I also need to buy a fucking apartment to play it in
>electricity too

Gee thanks nintendo. How is the average consumer going to pay for all this?

>>324321541
Yeah, for the added price of 15 dollars - there are versions without that cost 45, and to my knowledge you can't get just the dungeon without paying for the Amiibo as well.

>>324312835
Well, it shouldn't be because let alone it's DLC on an port but is limited time DLC which is royal bullshit.

>>324319726
It's not getting more expensive. Your dollar is just worthless. It's supposed to go down another 15% this year, so expect imported goods to go up another 15% this year alone.

>>324315473
A slippery slope argument is different from a slippery slope fallacy.

>>324321616
60 dollars is a standard wii-U game

>BUT MUH BAYONETTA DEAL
>BUT MUH WINDWAKER DEAL

Not happening this time. So suck it up and pay the price if you want the game. $5 doesnt kill you unless you live in some shithole.

>>324321616
>Lying this hard
Fuck off, retard.

>>324321649
>accessory is.
Is it a physical paywall (DLC) like ROB that blocks content from two games? Is that an accessory?

It's not
But hey, at least I'll have TP

>>324321682
>Ever claiming you "won" on the internet
That anon is right, you're a child. Fuck off back to reddit.

>>324321682
He didn't cry or lose. You're fucking terrible at bait

>>324321790
They aren't going to accept it, just use the light gun and Duck Hunt.

>>324321682
You mean like what you're doing right now

>>324313883
Or, and please for a second don't act like a retard after reading this, you wouldn't get this dungeon at all. Nintendo puts the money for development of this dungeon, because the game+amiibo money will be good enough to pay it all back.

I'm actually all in for more amiibo content, bigger content. Nintendo said they'll probably release cheap amiibo cards too, so what's the problem? Or, and I'd be okay with it, let them put the dungeon (aside from amiibo) behind a paywall - nothing much, just enough for some people who don't want to get an amiibo whatever stuff is there to see.

I know this might come as a shock to a lot of you, but you idiots have no idea how game devlopment works. You have no idea what we have to deal with. And before someone calls me out on working for Nintendo - never developed a single thing for any of their consoles. But I at least know why all this DLC shit exists and how all your crying will never change anything. Why? Because development costs get higher all the time, years ago it was dirt cheap, and now we need to get more than 60$ from people - and DLC is one of the best ways, aside from all the Limited Edition shit. That figure and artbook you paid two times more for? Yeah, it costs little to nothing to make it, and it's easy money.

It's still ridiculous that Nintendo did so little with the whole amiibo thing. There's whole NES titles to give for figures, free to play amiibo games, apps, so much potential that they still didn't touch on.

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I don't get it.

Doesnt everyone already have the game for the Wii and or GC?

Whats the point in updating? As far as we know it has no new content, and i'm pretty sure all of /v/ kept their gamecubes.

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I loved OoT, Majoras Mask and Windwaker, but I've never played TP. I have a Wii U. Should I get this game?

>>324321693
The anti-Sonyggers are way louder than the Sonyggers.

>>324322043
Yes, it's pretty good.

>>324321759
>>324321770

>60 dollars is a standard wii-U game
Then that's the root of th eproblem. These games don't deserve that much for such low quality. The most they should be is about 30 dollars, 20 if it's a remake.

After all, I've already played. What can you possibly claim justifies the price? Keep in mind that sony tried claiming that "graphics" was the reason why TLOU got an expensive Ps4 port. And it was garbage.

>>324321343
How about you source that, faggot?

Please don't try and say the digital version of the game, because you don't matter as a person.

>>324321790
It doesn't block any content, aside from the content of what it physically is. Retard

>>324322127
>The anti-Sonyggers are way louder than the Sonyggers.
You're kidding right?

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>Autists will actually spend $20+ dollars on a cheaply made Nintendo branded McDonalds toy
>Autists will actually stand in front of stores for them, without a child in sight
>Autists will actually defend on-disk DLC
>Autists will actually defend McDonalds toys with "hurr im havin fun", "hurr i get a cheaply made toy and some free cotent aswell"

If you're actually retarded enough to buy an Amiibo, please kill yourself. You're buying factory made physical DLC/ Childrens toys. You're not on the same level as people who buy figmas, you're on the level of horsefuckers going to McDonalds and buying MLP toys.

Please die.

>>324322220
>It doesn't block any content
[Retard Alert]

>>324313639
how about making the amiibo a shortcut to the content, rather than making only unlockable via it?

>>324322017
>You meant I right?

Nope, notice that's he's picked up more anon's replying to him

All these physical DLC apologists are just trolling right?

>>324322296
You're awfully good at throwing the word austist around.

>comes as standard
>comes with game
>is free
>le mcdonalstoy
kek

>>324322364
Another anon has been over that, they'd rather pay for it than to have it for free.

>>324314328
>3ds has outsold Xbox one and ps4 combined
>new IP won shooter of the year
>amiibo flying off shelves
>dying
Do you always spew random garbage from your mouth, or is it only when you're feeling especially autistic?

>>324322213
In this fucking thread, you stupid drone.
>>324319405

>>324322220
>What is Smash Bros AI programming
>What is an entire board in Mario Party
>What is an entire dungeon in Twilight Princess

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>defending on-disc DLC

Holy fuck. The physical aspect I can ignore, but this shit is obscene. You people are nauseating.

>>324322390
>Nope
That's what you meant.

>>324321790
It was touted as a second player for these games. Set aside the fact that it was just a toy to play with the games could be played with two players or even just yourself using two controllers.

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>>324322206
>The most they should be is about 30 dollars, 20 if it's a remake.

That sounds more like you pushing your views onto the market then what it should actually be.

Gamecube games were 39.99 new MSRP in 2002. Wii-U games which pushed the technology even further, + the current inflation between now and a decade ago, $60 isnt far fetched for a video game.

Just ebcause you believe there is less work, doesn't make it so. Infact, if you pay attention to credit rolls, you'd realize the teams of Wii-U games far exceed the size of the Gamecube ones, so more labor and cost production time = bigger sales and budget price.

If you're not willing to pay for that, thats fine, but don't go spouting what things are worth when you have no idea of economics. Even NES games were $80 back in the day, and that was standard fare.

>>324313092
I don't know much about LA,
Is it possible to play these dungeons if you're emulating it?

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>>324322015

>I know this might come as a shock to a lot of you, but you idiots have no idea how game devlopment works
Here's how it works for a good company.

>release game
>game sells
>release free DLC because you love video games and don't like greedy people
>release MORE DLC for free because the thought of a paywall disgusts you
>continue supporting the game years after release
>laugh at AAA companies charging 60 dollars for 40 year old games

>>324322296
>KLK
>autist autist autist autist
Way to out yourself autismo. Fuck off back to tumblr where you belong.

>>324322529
/v/ is full of literal children now.

>>324322505
Don't forget co-op mode in Shovel Knight.

>>324322585
>It was touted as a second player for these games
Right, a physical paywall.

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>>324322651

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>>324322696
what the fuck is this guy talking about?

>>324322505
>An entire dungeon in TP
Got a source that's not Amazon?

>AI Are already in Smash.

>A literal square

>>324322529
Nintendo could literally sell a box of shit and their fans would eat it up, ask for seconds, and send a goddamn thank you card for it.

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>>324322610

>Gamecube games were 39.99 new MSRP in 2002. Wii-U games which pushed the technology even further, + the current inflation between now and a decade ago, $60 isnt far fetched for a video game.
It's far too much when the PC market has games at mere pennies that will have higher quality and more content.

>Infact, if you pay attention to credit rolls, you'd realize the teams of Wii-U games far exceed the size of the Gamecube ones, so more labor and cost production time = bigger sales and budget price.
All it tells me is that Nintendo wastes money on excess garbage that the game doesn't need. Some of the best games this gen were made by one guy in his basement with the budget of an adidas jacket and a turkey sandwich.

>but don't go spouting what things are worth when you have no idea of economics
In the competitive market, you have to prove that your product is worth it. When other products come out and have nearly triple the content at a fraction of the price, then you have a problem.

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>>324322460
>Comes with game
Really? If i buy it digitally they're gonna ship me the McDonalds toy so i get the dungeon? You're fucking retarded

How about all those other games with on-disk content locked behind McDonalds toys?

Call it whatever mental disorder you want. Autism, Aspergers, the Downs. People actually buying and supporting this garbage have the mind of a 12 year old and they need to seek help.

>>324322651
Here, have this image then. Doesnt stop you from not being autistic for supporting Nintendo.

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>defending on-disc DLC
>defending on-disc DLC being blocked off by official licensed merchandise
>defending the thing killing Nintendo

Can't wait for the NX to just be a phone that's compatible with Amiibo.

>>324322529
People have been defending ROB since the NES newfag.

Nothing new.

>>324316206
Okay. You're right. Let's put it your way, since you want me to:

You make a game yourself. You create all the assets. Spent all that time. It takes you years, because you have a job to pay your bills. Or you don't and have to get the cash from somewhere, so you can work on the game full time.

You still with me?

You release your game. It's not a hit, but it has a small community that likes it. But uh-oh, your sales are slowing down, and it seems like you won't make it even OR barely make it even, and where's the money you thought you'd get to work full time on the next title?

And the community asks for more. They want more, and they say paying a few additional bucks isn't bad for them, since they love the title and if it helps make a sequel - why not.

Now, you have all the assets for the game created. It takes you little to no time to create an additional level or two, even fucking 100 levels if they're simple (MGS VR missions), and you can spend that time, and release these levels as additional DLC that'll give you the cash you needed and additional new customers if you pack it up etc.

Do you understand how this works? There's a whole system, and don't even get me started on how this works in big dev teams, where we have different groups working on different shit. You have some people you can either kick off from company, or make them stay as group B to work on DLC for the game, while group A works on that last part to polish it all up. That way you get group B to stay with you until group A is done and you can develop new shit, AND you get additional money, while people who actually want DLC - get it.

>>324322505
Back read, kay. The argument is "is rob the robot on the NES "DLC" for 2 NES games"

>>324322764
Atleast it actually applies here.

>>324322627
>I don't know much about LA,
>Is it possible to play these dungeons if you're emulating it?

Yes, you can also play them on an original monochrome GB but you couldn't really solve it because it had color based puzzles.

>>324322887
>AI Are already in Smash
Really? Want to show me where i can make my own AI that i can train?

>A literal square
>Still locked behind McDonalds toys

How about the Amiibo exclusive Mario Maker skins?

>>324322852
How Gyromite and Stack-up weren't really playable without a friend or ROB

>>324322924
>comes with game
Yep, it's included with all standard edition copies.

Enjoy anon and have fun.

>Call it whatever mental disorder you want. Autism, Aspergers, the Downs
You have these? That's a lot of disorders.

>>324313639
It's fucking on disc DLC, so yes.

>>324322948

>And the community asks for more. They want more, and they say paying a few additional bucks isn't bad for them, since they love the title and if it helps make a sequel - why not.
Here's what you do in that situation: you release the content for free anyway and let your customers know that you don't want to nickel and dime them. IF they want to spend money so badly, have them donate it to your patreon, or fund a new game.

>>324322963
>rob the robot on the NES "DLC" for 2 NES games
Oh, that is.

>>324322505
>smash ai
You literally have no argument here. You're just saying words and hoping to not sound retarded
>an entire board in Mario party
A board that literally adds nothing to your game but a fun quirk that isn't even that fun
>an entire dungeon
A dungeon that was never in the original game to begin with, so it still doesn't effect the game in any way.

>>324322641
Don't act like the updates are DLC. Online games have had frequent post-release updates ever since Runescape. It's one of the advantages of the PC platform.

Re-logic doesn't have any other games they need to sell/make, so they can continue developing for Terraria and continuing to add new content. Their devs aren't paid $60,000 yearly salaries, where it would be shooting yourself in the foot to have them continue to make free content continuously. Nintendo already offered said free updates for Splatoon, and it helped them continue selling it, but that's because the R&D3 team had nothing better to do. The Zelda team, under Aonuma, would be better off spending their time working on Zelda Wii U, so it's understandable if they want to earn a little extra cash by adding in extra content post release. Same with Sakurai's team.

>>324322963
Gyroid can be played with 2 people you stupid cunt, you cant not play Gyroid if you dont have a ROB.

>>324323069
>Yep, it's included with all standard edition copies.
Really? So how am i going to get the Amiibo when i buy Digitally? Got a source?

>You have these? That's a lot of disorders.
Im not the one defending Nintendo senpai whats it like in the mind of a child? How are those disability checks?