I honestly don't understand how that is "sjw" at all
My first statement is just a fact, the second is just something you can do if you don't like what you're seeing in the game, OP didn't say anything about why the fuck someone would buy a game with stuff that they didn't like seeing in it.
>>324301757 >That random changing between red and white text is annoying and makes me distrust this image anyway. it's gamergate propaganda if you don't believe me all you have to do is reverse google search
>choosing the "bad" path means you get to have a lot less fun in the game Why do devs keep doing this? Are there any games that don't give you shit for being evil or just simply an asshole? infamous 1 and 2 come to mind, also Shadow the Hedgehog
>>324300376 >Can't skip cutscenes >Can't die 3 times on a level and choose to skip >Can't walk away while whatever you are scared of plays out Also, who the fuck skips parts of books and movies and continues to read/watch them? Sounds like a real faggot. If I skip a part of something I am not going to continue it after
>>324301983 >>324301638 >getting upset over a hashtag and morons posting anonymous shit under said hashtag *Sigh* I want to belive that those are the redditfags I hear so much about >_< but it's probably just idiots.. >:|
>>324302064 You could be an ass in mass effect. It was viable to beating lots of parts and getting everything you needed. Fallout, elder scrolls let you win by being bad many times too. I have always liked being the edge lord in role playing games.
If you fast forward through parts you dont like, or skip pages in a book, you miss content and end up being like " what the fuck, why is X dead, Why is Y alive? Why did Z happen? this makes no sense, fuck this movie/book "
The truth is, if you cant stomach content that doesn't fit your happy little world, turn off the movie, close the book, or quit the game.
>>324302870 >if you cant stomach content that doesn't fit your happy little world, turn off the movie, close the book, or quit the game More like quit being such a fucking faggot. People need to get over themselves.
>>324302870 >The truth is, if you cant stomach content that doesn't fit your happy little world, turn off the movie, close the book, or quit the game. yeah but if i did that then i couldn't whine online about how i'm being persecuted by a video game
>>324303263 Show me anyone who plays games that calls themselves a " gamergater " first. Then show me how they aren't just an SJW shill. Then show me how they are so horribly affected by a game that their mental state is compromised to the point of influence.
>>324303501 I didn't make myself really clear; yeah two of the best boss fights, but Sans pops out and says you're a shithead. I would've preffered an alternative ending, maybe I simply escape from the underground or whatever
>Tfw this is true >I've been conditioned to commit genocide on entire goomba civilations >murdered koopas in their shells >left octoroks to die in the sun, bleeding out profusely >gave dodongos lung cancer
I drop every rpg that tries to make me feel bad for asking for monetary rewards from poor little quest givers. It's a fucking game, I have absolutely no motivation to do anything that doesn't give me resources or bring me closer to the end.
>skipping pages in a book I either don't read a book at all, stop reading it REAL early, or bite through the entire thing no matter what if I went too far. The thought of skipping just a bit of it is just... really wrong.
But anyway. If you can spot "brainwashment", then you can probably just ignore it, anyway. If the book/movie/game/whatever is good in a way it should be, hell, why not ignore the shitty parts and focus on what's good? And if it doesn't, well, then just don't touch it in the first place. Easy.
>>324304379 >debate skills from 4chan Avoiding the main points, focusing on the minor details, ignoring logic and what is fair, and insulting you in the end. The "I'm-right-about-everything-I-talk-about" attitude.
>>324304973 I would say the 4chan debating skills aren't even that complicated, the vast majority will just say something like 'nice meme' in place of an actual response
I'm not sure if they think it's clever or a big putdown or something because i really don't get what it's supposed to communicate when you do that kind of repsonse, in my mind it just makes them look stupid
>>324305316 No, fucktard. The TL;DR of this post is that, because a video game can be used to influence thoughts and ideas more than any other medium, you should watch closely to who is trying to control the content they contain.
>>324305415 No it's to avoid media backlash when kids inevitably watch it because then responsibility for it can be passed to the parents if it's clearly stated what's in there and so it prevents bad PR and damaged reputation for the seller
>>324300376 >brainwashment >partecipate >some random quip about the US army that has nothing to do with video games or anything else mentioned >doesn't even source the study >suggests that political choices are the same thing as moral choices >propogandists
I feel like the person who made this wasn't very smart.
>>324300376 Sort of, but it's a good thing. Books and films can do the same thing by misleading. Just because a game chastises you for doing something doesn't mean it condones the alternative itself. It could be more effectively making a point. It serves a much greater artistic purpose than propagandist. Propaganda only works on idiots, and it either effects you or it doesn't, so it doesn't matter whether it's through a game or a movie at that point.
>>324300376 If a move contains political brainwashment, THE VIEWER FIRST HAS TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE IT in order to know to fast-forward or skip a few pages.
Or, since they recognize it and know it's bullshit, they can just keep reading/washing and give themselves an awareness of it, laugh at it, or whatever else a rational human being does. "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" is not an appropriate action to take for anyone over the age of 12.
The same can be done with video games. If you really didn't like it, you would make yourself aware of it and make an effort to reduce that kind of shit in the media you enjoy, or at the very least point it out to others so they can see it for themselves. Ignoring it just shows indifference, and if you were indifferent you wouldn't be making this post here. Your argument makes absolutely zero sense, OP.
>>324305605 >media backlash when kids inevitably watch it but kids watch this stuff daily, where's the backlash?
>it prevents bad PR and damaged reputation for the seller except that's wrong since literally nobody cares about age ratings on games in the first place
Age ratings/restrictions give political figures like Tipper Gore leverage to help advance their own biases, regardless of whether or not their justified. Example: Her work with the PMRC enabled Tipper to become the Mental Health Policy adviser to the President.
It's all bullshit to fund someone's political aspirations, not to have any real impact on viewing behavior or help people in any way.
>>324306150 So what you're saying is that you purposefully go out of your way to see things that you already know you don't like, and then complain about it like it isn't totally your fault that you saw it in the first place?
>>324300376 >you must comply with this ideology False, I don't want to be one of those pretentious faggots but Aristotle once said It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
If you fall for propaganda simply because it is there in a game you are a complete idiot and would likely fall for it in any other form.
>Every thread about the industry >I THINK THIS IS MADE BY GOOFERBABBER guys! >Really? Delete this thread! Stop harassing women! "It's about ethics" lmfao >No I don't read that hate propaganda Why are people so afraid of GG, and/or do so much falseflagging? It's always the same pattern as well, the attempt to discredit followed by delusion and ignorance. I'm not even interested in the GG vs SJW war, but it intrigues me to know what people are so afraid of that they are triggered this easily.
>>324300376 That's stupid pseudo-pseudo-pseudo-''''''science'''''' that only sounds legit if you're a complete moron. >if a movie contains propaganda you can just fast forward Movies are watched in the theatres, with friends and on the TV. You don't just skip forward. When I watched Hateful 8 I could not skip the part about the black guy talking about his black dingus. It was also not effective as propoganda. I was simply disgusted in Quentin Tarantino. He's a cuck. >If a game does this you can't skip it Examples? If I am shooting nazis I am well aware that I am playing a propoganda game, it doesn't change my opinions. If there's choices I will pick what I think is right without giving a shit about the game punishing me, like in Mass Effect where you can basically commit a genocide against an entire race. I did it because they're warmongering assholes. I still got the best ending.
>>324307541 I don't think you understand the absolute basic idea of what is being said. The image in the OP isn't arguing for censorship. It's not arguing for moderation. It's doing the OPPOSITE of those two things.
It's saying that, if we assume the claim about video games being more influential than other media, whoever controls the content in video games will control the popular opinion--and that's BAD.
You're arguing against a statement that is AGREEING WITH YOU.
You'd have to be a literal retard to be brainwashed by a video game. Also this example is shit, because you can just stop playing the game. >watching movie >get triggered by a part >fast forward past the whole thing >confused as fuck as to what's happening since you just skipped through a massive plot point
>>324307009 Yep, exactly. Like how some people think protagonists must always very directly reflect the author's beliefs, and that those beliefs better be kosher, for some reason. I can't understand why people would detest or be afraid of experiencing that sort of thing, as if they're afraid experiencing something like that will successfully challenge their views and turn them into what they think is a "bad person". It's just close-minded.
>>324308286 I think also if they think a disagreeable protagonist in any form of media might be able to sway someone's core beliefs they mustn't have a lot of faith in their intelligence or the intelligence of others. I'm pretty cynical but even I don't think people are that stupid. For example how many mass murderers has GTA turned out?
>>324307974 The picture implies whoever made it is fighting back with his own propaganda or would like suitable propaganda to replace problematic ideology in games just because whoever made it is afraid.
I, for one, don't want anyone doing anything remotely close to that. I want a free vidya market.
>>324308467 >they mustn't have a lot of faith in their intelligence or the intelligence of others Yeah. I've observed that a bit in various forms, it seems to be a problem which causes people to try to overcompensate morally. If they were less overly-defensive of their ideological identity maybe they'd see these things aren't so bad.
Make a game. Your personal beliefs will make their way into your work. Now what if most of the other people that make video games share your beliefs? What becomes of the industry? More or less the same as before, but a few things that were not normal in the past might be considered normal now. One more aspect of daily life that has quite a bit of something a group of people believe in. It's not brainwashing, it is what it is.
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