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WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT
IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD
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> the UN will never create a global army to free the world from middle-eastern terrorists
I don't know what to feel
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AT LEAST YOUR MOTHER TIPPED WELL!
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Guys, it's a thermonuclear bomb
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>>324281778

Clock is getting away
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>>324282326
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>>324282009
Dudes, this thing is about fighting
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>>324281097
THERE IS A VERY UNSTABLE SITUATION ON THE GROUND; THAT IS UNFOLDING VERY QUICKLY
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>tfw C&C died a horrible death
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>>324282710
MOVE TOWARDS MORE IDEAS THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP
UHHHH
BRING THIS THING TO AN END
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Tranquility through strength
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GENTLEMEN THIS

GENTLEMEN THIS

GENTLEMEN THIS

GENTLEMEN THIS

IS ABOUT COMBAT
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CC has turned into a meme game. Way to go fags.
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>>324282901
>tfw community is still alive and is making some great projects (Renegade X, Mental Omega, RA:APB pre-alpha released...)

How do we get C&C out of EA and bring life officially back into it?
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>>324283706
Is Renegade X still alive? I'll reinstall that shit right now if so.
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>>324281263
>taking the star-wars view of the world
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>>324283887
We need to protect our security and our freedom anon

The GDI would protect us
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>>324283832
>still alive
It's getting more alive every day
Usually one full server at any given time.
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>>324283832
Somewhat, at peak times, you'll get about one or two active servers. The remaining playerbase are all crazy good now, it's a little hard to get into but still fun as hell.
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Are you impressed with the modifications to my tanks, General?
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>>324281097

Is that a 10-round magazine? Lel AWB.
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>>324284028
>that's what americans actually believe

also RIP that dude holding tiberium.
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> General Carville answers the door
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>>324284069
>>324284061
Sounds like I need to git gud then, thanks.
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>>324285117
It's quite fun, just don't treat it like any other normal shooter. If you need to be that guy who has to do the boring but important job like mining shit off or repairing buildings and repelling off SBHs, do it.
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>>324285117
You can always play against bots to get the feeling of how game works. Bots aim quite well, but they lack strategy and coordination that you would see when playing with people.
sadly some people on public servers play worse than bots would
Or you can even remove bots and just explore the map to get familiar with terrain.
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>>324283706
Simple, kill EA, set the IP's free.

I'll try to be a milionare when that happens, I don't wanna see another "Interplay buys Freespace 2 IP for 5000 bucks" again.
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>>324281097
I really liked how Kane's Wrath had a remix of Act on Instinct. It brought back fond memories.
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>>324286143
How do we kill EA?
Consolefags and dudebros are keeping it alive and well.
I would say that *whole* C&C community has to get together and demand EA releases C&C IP to some trusted developer/publisher or even to public.
If that fails, we pull pic related on EA top executives.
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I'M A MECHANICAL

I'M A MECHANICAL

I'M A MECHANCIAL MAN
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It is time you saw the future, while you still have human eyes.
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>>324287351
let them make the worst decisions. Don't buy battlefield and don't buy Madden nor Fifa.

Disney alone can't keep it alive.
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>>324284320
that dude was alive on the first game.
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>>324287858
not gonna work, EA still get a lot of money from normies.
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What do you guys think of tiberium wars? and kane wrath?
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Where can i pirate all the old games in spite of EA.
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>>324288818
Not as good as Tiberian Sun but showed that if EA cared enough, they could make a decent C&C game despite killing off Westwood. Them trying to push it as esports was kinda cancerous though.
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>tfw you'll never have to submit your letter home to your folks through the GDI censor board.
>tfw they'll never be blissfully ignorant of how bad the Tiberium infestation of the world is, or the creatures that lurk in the dead places of the world.
>tfw you'll never be the only survivor in your platoon when a NOD Hunter Killer drone hits the APC while you're out taking a leak.
>tfw you'll never be captured by NOD Terrorists, and brought back to be harvested for Cyborg production.
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>>324288594
agree, EA aren't going to self-destruct themselves.
They are pushing limits about how much can they exploit normies (when did we start shortening "normalfag"), but not to the point of any serious money income decline.

I would really like to see all C&C sub-communities start coming together, making a unified vision of what to happen with C&C in the future, and then get enough vocal about it to get response out of EA.

I do however fear that EA will start to think "O shit, even though we completely fucked up C&C there is still fanbase that we can exploit further"
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>>324289648
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>>324289335
CNCNet has a few links on there for singleplayer and configured to work mostly with modern systems. RA2 isn't there simply because EA didn't release it as freeware but you could just torrent that shit anyway.
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I want to go to Las Vegas, watch Joe Kucan do theatre then shake his hand and give him a hug

Then I'd go do the same with Frank Klepacki
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>>324289968
we CAN'T do anything against EA with C&C because of exactly your post
>o no the fanbase is still alive, guess we can still leech from them some more years.
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>>324290974
If you ever do that, tell him /v/ says "h-h-hi"
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>>324290509
what is CNCNet? sorry but im new on the whole CNC Tib wars was my first.
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>>324291885
It should be illegal to have so small playerbase for so great game.
Why isn't this shit more popular?
Is it too complex for normies to comprehend?
mfw I would apply whole new layer of complexity onto existing one by adding base-building mechanics similar to Savage / Savage 2
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>>324292112
It's basically a client that allows people to play the older games online. Community there also has people that did some things to make the older games playable on newer systems.

Even if it's just for singleplayer, I'd recommend going there for their files since installing the older games otherwise and getting them to work is a hassle.

http://cncnet.org/
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>tfw there wouldn't ever be a game with badass industrial\techo soundtrack
Why even going for the crystals?
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>>324292552
Keep in mind how tough it is to attract new players to a game where their first match could:
A) Last 230 minutes in an endless stalemate
B) Last 10 minutes before getting crushed by the other team.

It also doesn't have the tactical gun mechanics everybody expects from shooters nowadays. It's an arcade shooter inside an RTS.
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>>324281097
The global defense initiative
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>>324287351
EA is untouchable while they have FIFA, NBA, and NFL licenses. They can p2w and shit the bed everywhere else and they will still make a profit.
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>>324287686
TIME IS RUNNING OUT
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>>324293338
tthe only reason im not playing this is because im on a toaster.
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>>324292552
The initial publicity when it went public didn't help. It ran like shit and there were some serious bugs.

The aesthetic didn't appeal to people either, Tiberian Dawn and Renegade by extension, made it look like a generic shooter with its modern weaponry when it's really anything but that.

On top of that, how the game works is too abstract for many to comprehend. Things like mining buildings or keeping buildings up or repairing other player's vehicles or APC rushes didn't sit well with a lot of people.

Then you had people complain about "balance issues" like how they thought GDI was overpowered simply because they had stronger vehicles like mammoth tanks.

What >>324293338 said and lots of lots of shitposting and misinformation.
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>>324293338
>It also doesn't have the tactical gun mechanics everybody expects from shooters nowadays. It's an arcade shooter inside an RTS.
Dunno, I consider the gun mechanics quite enjoyable, just like good old fps.
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Daily reminder that C&C General correctly predicted the future. Our timeline is the Generals timeline.
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>>324294481
but the middle east is a very small place, also are we going to turn into robots?
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>>324294054
Yeah, plus the DDOS frenzy that took down 3/4 of the servers (that was to be expected though. This game was easy prey). The community really has been fighting an uphill battle just to keep the game existing, nevermind populated.

But hell it is so worth it. I just had a match where I single-handedly C4d two enemy buildings to death after getting knocked down to one last structure and still lost the match when the enemy did a mass APC rush. You just never know what to expect in this game.
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>>324294820
>MRLS
It's MLRS you Tiberium-huffing yellow zoner
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>>324294379
I mean things like aim bobbing for snipers, the fact that you can turn and strafe on a dime, and the fact that units can survive multiple headshots from most weapons. It is very enjoyable, especially in a classic fps sense, but a lot of people get put off by the thought of headshots being anything less than instant kills.
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you can usually always blow up a church for some quick cash
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JUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfAalQu9hvY
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>>324289335
I think most of the early pre-RA3 games have open source ports now.
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>>324294820
It pisses me off on how many things were against it up to now. It really deserved better and I hope somewhere down the line, they try to promote the game again.
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>>324295347
>headshots not being instant kills
Well, headshots are still very important in Renegade X, especially with stuff like the pistol and rifle.
But yeah Renegade X is fun as fuck, I remember the good times of turtling as nod and then sending out three infiltrators with nuke beacons
>NUCLEAR STR-
>NUCLEAR STR-
>NUCLEAR STRIKE IMMINENT
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>The gratification/terror of managing to sneak into the enemy watchtower and planting your c4 while hopping noone finds you as an engineer
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M-M-M-MAYDAY
MAYDAY
M-M-M-MAYDAY
MAYDAY
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>>324299893
>The immense satisfaction when you actually pull it off and see the chat fill with "STUPID FUCKING TEAM!"
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>Nobody ever discusses renegade

SBH sniper master race
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>>324301345
You mean the original Renegade as opposed to RenX?
As far as I'm concerned Renegade died when the guys behind RenGuard gave all units infinite ammo. Though the singleplayer campaign still has some great moments.
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Chose only one.
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>>324301812
yeah renguard was bs, i got !forcerg'd off a server once despite not hacking, pure bullshit.

it was my first online game ever, so fucking innovative combining FPS and RTS elements.

>taking the tunnels with infantry
>taking the field with vehicles
>defending the base as a hotwire
>repairing vehicles in the field as a hotwire

so many roles to play. Is RenX popular?
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>>324301859
MOO, i mean HIROO
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>>324302150
Fuck, original Renegade was something unique and fun even back then. It's too bad it died, along with any Renegade mods like A Path Beyond and whatever they called that Tiberian Sun mod. RenX is the only thing that's alive and even that's struggling very hard.
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>>324302150
>it was my first online game ever,
Mine too! Weird. Probably because it was one of the first online games that didn't make you go through a lot of BS setting up ports and stuff to play online.

RenX has about 100 regular players, about 40 playing on a full server most of the day. Only one or two servers are left but at least they're populated enough to give you a decent game.
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>>324303382
>>324302884

>nuclear strike beacon deployed
>XxX : WHERE!?
>YyY : WF WF WF
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>>324301859
Has to be Tanya.
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If another CnC game came out, which universe should it continue?

Hard mode: Not Tiberium universe
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>>324305996
Generals would be pretty f'ing topical.
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>>324304720
>everyone panics and tries to find the nuke beacon
>meanwhile your team flamerushes
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>>324306407
was always more of a stank rush guy myself, the element of surprise always wins.

except when there's that one guy who couldn't drive a tank for shit and always got seen
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>game start
>loading a bunch of APCs with engineers and driving into the enemy power plant/watch tower
ALLAHU ACKBAR
I need to reinstall renegade X
Such a good game that really focuses on team work where you really need to play the objective instead of just get kills.
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>>324306226
Generals would literally be what's happening right now.

How long before the Chinese create Overlords?
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>>324305996
Generals.
Suicide trucks, scud missiles, suicide bombers, hijackers were all great

I want more insurgent factions in games.
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FOUR ON THE FLOOR
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>>324306947
>finally get 1000 credits for a havoc/sakura
>Walk out of the building
>get headshot

REEEEEEEEEE

also being able to change havocs outfit was the shit
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IF YOU FAIL, DO NOT RETURN.
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Why cannot we live in peace?
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How much backlash would Generals get if it was released today?
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>>324305996
Generals would be the only good option there, unless you can also have it so they just forget C&C4 ever happened and continued on from Kane's Wrath.

I don't even know where you could take the Red Alert universe without fucking it up.Unless maybe they did what that Paradox mod for RA3 tried to do.
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>>324304720
>>324306407
>Back when Renegade just launched and servers still enabled friendly fire.
>"NUCLEAR STRIKE BEACON DEPLOYED"
>OH FUCK WHERE WHERE WHERE
>Scour base, can't find a thing.
>"NOD AIRSTRIP DESTROYED BY DUMBASS"
>"Dumbass: You can nuke your own buildings?"
>"Dumbass: gay gay gay gay gay"
>"Dumbass has left the game"
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I always have a lot more fun playing as NOD doing sneaky bullshit stuff
GDI is kind of fun if you get a big tank battle going but it's a bit lackluster in my opinion.
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I wish Renegade X had larger maps and more tech buildings to fight over. Maybe a communications center or one of those lab buildings with the three big golf balls on top.
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>>324283290

DUN DUN DUN DOO DOO
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>>324309553
Both teams can be sneaky. NOD just has units specially designed for it.
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Is it so much to ask for have the original C&C in a format that works well on modern PCs?

No matter what I do it scrolls across the map at the speed of light.
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>>324310232
Did you try arrow keys?
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>>324310232
Someone remade the first game in 3's engine, like how SC1 was made in 2's engine for Mass Recall
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>ftw RTS is a dead genre
an hero time
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>>324310527

It's not dead, it's just that very few companies still make any. And the fans for once are in fact to blame, because it just stopped being popular as a genre. Same thing happened to point-n-click adventure games
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>tfw shit at RTS even when it was more popular

I tried to play games like Command & Conquer and Total Annihilation with my brother who was a lot more into it, but I've just always sucked and it kind of saps most of the enjoyment out of it.
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>>324309553
What's the point of snipers? Free character eliminators? Cause even bots are fast as quake players.
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as much as people hate on the deathball of SC2, the fact is that was the norm of a lot of rts even in the old days.

Red Alert 2 multiplayer was nothing but deathballs of tanks.
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>>324310818
Get a couple snipers on a ledge overlooking an ion cannon beacon and watch engineer heads pop off left and right. Snipers are plain even during a beacon plant.
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>>324310796
Honestly this is probably the biggest reason the genre died
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>>324282901

EA is known to do that.
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>>324311097
>the fact is that was the norm of a lot of rts even in the old days.
Because it WORKS. How the fuck do you counter a giant mass of death without using one of your own?
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>>324311472
EA at least TRIED with Red Alert 3 having actors in cheesy cutscenes and goofy shit in the mechanics. But it wasn't a very good C&C game.

One of those "your heart was in the right place, but your mind was somewhere cold and dark and covered with spiders"
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>>324311627
EA also tried on tiberium wars.
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>>324311487
The same way things like Company of Heroes do it (or try to). Hard counters, etc.

If someone builds a huge blob of tanks you should just call in an artillery/air strike that wipes the whole thing. A more diverse and spread out mass of units would take much less damage for game reasons.
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>>324311715

But the difference is even with its flaws, C&C3 was a good game.

That's what happens with every franchise EA buys. They make an actually good game and you think "oh hey maybe they'll treat it right".

Then they kick you in the nuts with the very next game.

>>324311718

Nothing in RA2 really could counter lots of tanks. Not to mention there's lots of games where the deathball is a lot of different units, just all clustered together.
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>>324312117
>They make an actually good game and you think "oh hey maybe they'll treat it right".
C&C3
Mass Effect 2
Dead Space 2
System Shock 2
I liked all of those games and they're all EA. Then they betray me for trusting them.
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GENTLEMEN IT'S A NUCLEAR DEVICE
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>>324311718
RA3 tried to do that, not well though.
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TIME TIME TIME IS RUNNING OUT
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>>324312117
You forgot Generals, which was just basically a no-name RTS that EA slapped the C&C name on for marketing purposes. It doesn't change that it was a really good game and got even better with the expansion.
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>>324310050
I don't think the maps can get much bigger. As far as Unreal 3 maps go, they're massive. Plus when you lose all vehicles and have to make it to the enemy base on foot, you're pretty thankful it's a short hike.
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>>324289335
You dont need to, EA intentionally let the rights on Tiberium Dawn, RA, Tiberium Sun, and RA2 fall off years ago.
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>>324292924
Literally everything Klepacki does has that kinda sound. That's his thing.
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>>324311487
Because units should be balanced, they should countered by other units. Hard counters in C&C were not that hard.
To be fair it is still much better than blizzard games which are the worst when it comes to this, you literally always build a giant blob of zealots or huntresses or whatever and just throw them at the enemy and micro them.
Not all old rts did this, for example aoe2 is a game that is unbalanced when it comes to civilization choice but when it comes to units it is fair. You will never get away with a deathball of cavalry for free against a competent player because halberdier destroy them.
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>>324313664
>Hard counters in C&C were not that hard.

In the first game you could win like 80% of GDI missions by just building like 50 grenadiers and throwing it at their base.
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>>324301859
But those aren't Volkov and Chitzkoi.
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YOUR FEELING OF HELPLESSNESS IS YOUR BEST FRIEND, SAVAGE!
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>wanna play RA3 co-op because it's own of the ew RTS games with co-op
>sound track is bollocks
Mods when
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>>324314121
>Turn off music in audio menu
>Open up media player of choice
>Play Frank Klepacki soundtrack of your choosing
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>>324314121
>playing Co-Op mode in SC2
>have fun
>but all the really fun stuff for commanders only comes from playing enough times

At least Swann actually starts with the laser drill
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>>324313861
>replaying Tiberian Dawn
>absolutely suck at it
>somehow was able to roll through Tiberian Sun and Firestorm with ease
I don't remember it being this hard.
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What's everyone opinion on some of the newer RTS games?
I absolutly loved planetary annihilation
Play and beat gray goo, had loads of fun but the units felt way too same-y between factions
I have next to no idea what I'm doing in act of agression
Only played a tiny bit of etherium on a shitty laptop at sub 30FPS
Having loads of fun with ashes of the singularity
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