This game is pretty boring.
I've just gotten off dantooine and gone to tatooine but whats the appeal of this game?
boring combat (just spam flurry)
occasionally janky controls
lots of pointless diaglouge
also being darkside 9/10 times just means you get a few extra credits thrown your way
2nd game is way better. It's supposed to be about the story. If you don't like it don't play it. Same exact reason so many people drop baldurs gate. You just can't appreciate old games, so don't bother. No one wants you to waste your time or become one of the shit posters how shows up in threads talking about how much he hates the game.
It's the common knowledge that KOTOR 2 is a criticism for the whole Star Wars universe and KOTOR itself. Kreia as a character always criticized the whole good and bad side prominently because the universe is always based on that, and showing that the reality is that choices always a shade of gray. If KOTOR was a tribute for Star Wars movies, then KOTOR 2 is a criticism of how shallow and childish of the movies.
Depends how you see it, it could be a smart decision or a pretentious one. Smart because nobody done it before in Star Wars, pretentious because they're analyzing things too much about fucking Star Wars.
I think it was on an podcast for RPGcodex? I dunno never listen to it, just that particular one because I wanted some Pillars of Eternity news. Turns out he hates DnD and Star Wars and when he writes for them its him "fixing" them.
I used him a lot in Jedi Power Battles because I thought the yellow lightsabre looked cool
And then there he is holding a blue one in the background in the later prequels and also in the CGI show
It's on Kotaku so your mileage may vary
Also, a bonus about the development and planned KOTOR 3
Hey /v/ so I wanna give Star Wras a try, even though I can't really enjoy most old movies I recently watched Alien and really enjoyed it so maybe I'll enjoy Star Wars too.
What movies should I watch, which versions(my friend told me about some remaster? Is it good or worse than the original?) and in what order?
Also, what are the best star wars games?
I remember playing two star wars games on the ps2(loved them, one was a third person shooter I guess, and you had a jetpack and shit, it was awesome, and the other one was force unleashed or something, I think you fight obi-wan or some other guy with a green lightsaber at the end of the game)
Again, your mileage may vary depending on your point of view. Personally, it's a fine sequel if not a buggy and rushed one, while the plot isn't as hateful nor magnificence, but certainly interesting
Movies are obviously the released order. Prequels can be skipped IMO, since they're really terrible apart for some scenes.
Best games includes KOTOR 1/2, BF2, RepCom, Jedi Outcast/Academy, and for older titles you stuff like TIE Fighter
4 -> 5 -> 2 -> 3 -> 6 -> 7
Skip 1, it contributes zero to the overall story. It's best to watch 4 and 5 first, since they set the setting for the overall narrative. 2 and 3 act as a flashback to show you Darth Vader's past after the end of 5. Finish with 6 in order to see the resolution to both Vader and Luke's journey.
the blade should be longer and the hilt should be shorter
it's like a shitty version of the maul lightsaber
Release order. If you want the real good shit find the Despecialized editions of each (star wars, the Empire strikes back, and return of the Jedi) which are basically proper HD versions of the original movies. If you just don't give two shits get the Blu-ray versions which are chock full of horrible edited in special effects.
1/2/3 BRrips are just fine.
I've never played any of these games and I'm currently playing Jedi Academy for the first time would you suggest I move onto kotor after or is there any other star wars games I should play instead? I bought the steam collection so I should have most of them.
>purpose of the guard is to handle jedi affairs and guard the temple
>nobody is stupid enough to attack the temple and probably see zero combat due to this
>you nitpick about the combat effectiveness
Watch the new Rebels trailer, they're shown using actual lightsabers. They probably only use those at the temple as some tradition.
>You just can't appreciate old games, so don't bother
Come on, OP has valid points. KOTOR is enjoyable but is overrated. The writing feels pretty damn dumb often, the combat is really bad (just spam flurry like he said) and the sidequests in general could be better.
The good ones that you need to play:
>KOTOR 1 and 2
>Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Academy
Games you might want to play if you don't mind really old games:
>Dark forces / DF2
>Mysteries of the Sith
Games to play if you decide you want more star wars
>Force Unleashed 1+2
>Empire At War
>The rest of them
That being said, Republic Commando is the safest game. You can't NOT like it really. KOTOR are the best games easily but only if you go in expecting bad combat and the first 3 hours to be mediocre. 2nd game suffers from the same problems but is overall much better. If you don't know any KOTOR spoilers go away and don't come back to KOTOR threads because people WILL spoil them
>You can't NOT like it really.
RC is pretty mediocre and boring. Battlefront 2 is easily the best SW game with KOTOR 2 right after.
Also you didn't even mention Rogue Squadron.
from the trailer, it looks more like krells lightsaber which would mean a closer combat
So if they're guards for the temple, how did they survive when Anakin and an entire battalion of troops stormed the temple. I guess it's possible they snuck out since there was that scene of a padawan making it to the landing bay when Organa shows up. This seems contradictory though for them to sneak off when they're guardians for the temple.
I don't see Rebels even coming up with a good reason for this. It defies logic these guys survived unless they're OP as shit.
>stopping a shot mid-air
Vader stopped Han's shots with his hands, not hard to imagine Kylo's technique is just an extension of that. Kylo's clearly strong with force powers instead of combat, as shown when he pulls information out of people easily.
>blaster not getting cut in half
What? If you're talking about TR-8R's riot stick, that's made of something meant to absorb Lightsaber hits. This is nothing new (see: Grievous's bodyguards).
Im up to collecting the star maps from all the planets.
If I skip all the side quests how many hours do ibhave left?
Also is HK 47 worth getting? Where do I find them
What's the deal with mission having more dex but than strength but has a named vibroblade. Whilst the wookie has the bow caster but is better built for a melee character.
What's with NPC having more str but being ranged and more dex but being melee.
Kotor 1 is alright.
I played through the whole thing and the worlds keep it interesting.
Like that world that's on top of water, and that elevator you have to take down to that underwater lab. It's one of those video game locations you can never truly forget and every time you think back on it, it just feels epic.
And that wookie homeworld on top of tall trees, with the bottom of the forest being a dense jungle. And also that expansive desert world.
I can see how it hasn't really aged too well, especially the cumbersome RPG elements, but the worldbuilding is near perfect. Better than Mass Effect's take on alien worlds that's for sure.
The new movie is basically the first act of this game.
Character who clearly has a backstory we don't know yet. Finn has clearly don't some fucked up shit he doesn't remember and thinks he's fresh.
Follow a robot with a map.
A stupidly powerful weapon.
Need to see out old masters to become a Jedi.
>fight Bastila 1v1
>she says she loves me
>tell her I love her too
>my character doesn't force strip her and bang her ontop of the giant hologram
I thought this was a bioware game
Hey, remember when the Sith used lightsabers that weren't red and Jedi actually wore their own clothes rather than followed some kind of uniform style of dress?
Tales of the Jedi was a good friend.
I think it's fair to say that he used the Force to absorb the blows.
I almost finished Kotor 2, female exile DS wearing the dancer outfit, and despite missing on a lot of stuff like the romance with Atton/Disciple I don't feel like replaying the game at all.
You fags will never understand. If any of you have played all the way through before and try to tell me that this game's plot is not 10x better and more adaptable for the big screen than this utter pile of shit called "Star Wars" that just came out, you're fucking lying. A move into the old republic universe would be fresh for both adult and young fans, the stories are absolutely amazing, you could definitely stretch the two games and the lore surrounding them into a sequel if you're hellbent on milking that money cow.
This is true, its been a couple hours and Im still stuck on the mining station listening to holocron log files about droid repairs. I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE BEING REVAN FUCKING SHIT UP WITH MY SITH ARMADA!!!
Oh baby, this game was before the SJW phase that was going on now. Developers didn't give a shit and based female characters on the tomb raider model because those games sold because of tits.
I just want my boobslider back
No, in terms of game mechanics it was a lot more fleshed out. Obviously the ideas were already there but nobody had implemented that style of gameplay as well as Bioware until KotOR came out.
For its time it was innovative and groundbreaking and that is why games still derive from the Bioware model today
Rebels does have a smaller budget than Clone Wars.
The first half of second season started off so well but amounted to whole load of things we knew were coming or just ended up being sort of dull (Ahsoka and Captain Rex being boss as fuck were the highlights). Second looks fucking hyped, even if I'm off-put by creepy ass Rebels Yoda.
>The game's like 12 hours
do you faggots just rush through every game without doing any side quests or dialogue at all? I'm at 30 hours, and I think I have a few planets left - and I'm pretty sure I haven't been overly slow.
It's funny to think of all these fat neckbeards irl who go bananas for light sabers and would kill for a real one, but would probably cut off their own leg in the first minute.
Also kotor 1 > 2
>"The idea was that even before the 'modern day' Sith came into being in The Old Republic ... there were even more distant Sith Lords that were considered the true Sith, and the idea that they were still lurking out there in the galaxy waiting for a chance to strike, kind of like the Shadows in Babylon 5, I thought would be a cool finale for that Old Republic trilogy.
>"Part of the fun with designing them," he adds, "was if you have these incredibly powerful Force users and they have their whole hidden domain out in the distant reaches of the galaxy, what would that Sith empire really look like at the hands of these things?
But sadly LucasArts didn't want a KotOR3
>a KOTOR game with Babylon 5 narrative, world-building and overall far-reaching plot through everything
>never going to be made because EA holds the contract for SW games until 2024 and Avellone has left Obsidian
Kill me now.
That's what you get for being a guardian. Sentinel and Consular is where the real fun is at. Force wave, force storm, destroy droid, master valor, master speed combined with flurry only on tough guys, or power hit on trash mobs is where the real fun is. Also, make sure you pick up the first tier of throw lightsaber when you hit level 20 (max level), you need it to not make the final fight tedious.
KOTOR 1 works better if you treat it like a 7 or 8 chapter story instead of one single one. Each planet has its own main goal and storyline aside from "find the Star Map", so it's best to just get yourself into those instead of thinking they're sidequests.
Anyone got a link to a mod that adds the actual robes that Revan wore, rather than just the Starforge robes, with a cape that's not rigid?
First season of Rebels established there are a few smaller Jedi temples around the galaxy. Ezra got his lightsaber crystal from one on Lothal, those could be guards stationed at another instead of survivors from Coruscant.
1. The whole game is 50 hours if you're slow and do 100% of everything. Gauge your progress from that.
2. ABSOLUTELY get HK. He's the funniest character, and is the best ranged character if you upgrade him. You can give him bonus abilities through dialogue if you have a high repair skill, but the player has to have it, not your companions.
3. The deal with Mission and Zaalbar is that you're supposed to swap their weapons. It's important that you spec Zaalbar for swords, he gets the best one in the game from his companion quest. For mission, spec her for sniper shot, since her intellect is so high. You might also consider speccing her for dueling, and giving her 1 blaster pistol. She is a scoundrel after all, and it'll make her more like Han.
Dex doesn't add damage to blasters and you need to be close to the npc for the damage bonus. I think you can also get better blades than blasters for damage by the end of the game.
In other words, stun opponents with sniper shot, then follow up with any other kind of ranged attack to utilize sneak attack (it works with rapid shot and power blast). That way, you don't have to worry about positioning, you just blast and watch HP bars melt away.
>best ranged character if you upgrade him. You can give him bonus abilities through dialogue if you have a high repair skill
so you can upgrade him without having a high repair skill? He's been in my party some time now, but I haven't gotten any upgrade dialogue except the repair shit
Looking at the stats, you're right about the damage. Dex adds hit rating, not damage. But sneak attack does not have a range requirement. I'd still advise making her ranged over melee. Her strength sucks, and you could add the points to other attributes like dex and con to make her less squishy and supremely accurate.
I'm sorry if I worded that strangely. The repair dialogue is how you upgrade him. You can go through that dialogue 4 times, each time requires a higher repair skill to pass. Each time you succeed, he gains a passive bonus that makes him a better combatant. He's still good without it, being a droid gives him different skills from the soldier classed Carth and Canderous, as well as immunities that meatbags don't have. He's just not AS impressive. He becomes more accurate, more resilient, and can regenerate health without the need of repair kits with the upgrades in effect.
>Only if you're cynical about things and hate Star Wars
Heh, that's actually a pretty good description.
But honestly, most Star Wars stories pretty much feature a saturday morning cartoon plot, so I wish more games did something like that.
I enjoy the sentinel because I like tanks. He is basically immune to snares and stuns, so he can keep defending himself. When making a lightside character, he's proficient in melee combat and can buff himself with many of the defense oriented light side abilities. Plus, he has the most skills, which means you can vary which companions you bring along more often.
Light side sentinel or dark side consular is the way to go, my person of blood relation.
>It's not like you're handsome or something...baka!
Only advantage guardian has is a little more vit and force jump. More HP is hallmark of tanks, true, but you'll need it for when you're stunlocked for many of the harder fights. Sentinel never gets stunlocked. Force jump is nice, but it's really only good for initiating. After that, all you do is flurry spam.
Sentinel has more effective force powers, CC immunity, and tons of skills, which is not tank related, but as I mentioned, gives you more companion options.
It is EXTREMELY boring. That's why i only consider games true masterpieces of the medium if they have replay value. Great for 1-2 playthroughs games can only be that good. That's why games like Half-life, Deus Ex, System Shock etc are in my mind the greatest examples of what videogames can achieve.
>90% of enemies die in one hit
KOTOR 1's party members are kinda shit desu
It sucks that if you go Darkside you have to murder half your party, leaving you pretty much with only a poorly specced Bastila, Mandalore, and HK, meaning you pretty much have to do most of the heavy lifting on the Star Forge yourself
He's also far more of a showoff.
Vader disappated the blasts on his hand, using minimal energy.
Kylo stops and maintains it.
Shows he likes style over function even at the risk of more energy consumption.
And also why he got cut by finn because he was so focussed on looking like a badass twirling his saber around.
I'm really enjoying KoToR 1. The combat is the only thing I dislike, but it's just very easy. I'm playing through by following the light side. It seems to be one of those games where choosing the dark or evil options comes across as being super edgy. Overall it's pretty fun, plenty of ways to go about doing things.
>tfw you're female Jedi will never
i would buy this.
Bosses could be mechs like an at-st etc and big ass space creatures.
Dexterity weapons would be shit like blaster rifles, lazer pistols,Wookiee bowcaster, etc
Strength would be gaffi sticks, vibro swords/ axes
Force would be a stat that governs force powers
lightsabers would scale with force dex and strength.
Make your guy a jedi, or just a regular soldier or a bounty hunter whatever.
I like his saber :(, but it seems they introduce the design in rebels as well; so its a functional design its just kylo probably made his without snoke's assistance as such its made of parts from the bargain bin.
It seems like a weapon that would suit a much heavier fighter like Vader; since its larger and benefits more from strength than speed.
And kylo's kind of a lanky bitch
>but it seems they introduce the design in rebels as well; so its a functional design
Rebels is a dumb show made for babies, even though it's "canon" for marketing purposes you should just forget about it
Dave Filoni's series suck ass, he made the Force literal Christianity in Clone Wars
I've been trying to play this game for years but the tutorial area is so shit and boring that I can never get past it. So does Anyone have a kotor 2 save right after you leave said area?
>boring combat (just spam flurry)
Well, you're making it boring for yourself.
>occasionally janky controls
It's an RPG.
>lots of pointless diaglouge
It's a fucking RPG, you retarded cunt.
Finally got around to doing a solid play through of kotor after a fucking decade+.
What are the cons of going dark side?
Can I fuck bastila?
Can I get the Darth revan outfit?
Any major decisions where I can cause someone to get fucked up?
>What are the cons of going dark side?
KOTOR 1's dark side writing tends to be of the Saturday morning cartoon villain that kicks puppies and steals candy from a baby (which is fine by be) variety.
>Can I fuck bastila?
You can kiss her in the crew quarters, which isn't even shown. That's about it.
>Can I get the Darth revan outfit?
Yup, you need to be sufficiently dark side while on the Star Forge.
>Any major decisions where I can cause someone to get fucked up?
Plenty, depending on your definition of getting fucked up. For instance, forcing Zalbaar to kill Mission.