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So how about we talk a bit about SFV, /v/, but this time those that are bad and will drop the game after one month anyway don't actually join the discussion?

I know, I know, that doesn't leave many people on here but I think we can do it!
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The game felt really uncomfortable to play in beta on ps4. I didn't like the changes to my main (M. Bison). But there isn't a lot I can say because I only had about 2 hours to play it.

Might just wait for the game to expand a little after its release and see who comes in and how it actually plays.
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I'm excited to not have to stay in the lab for 3 hours because that one necessary link for my character won't come out.
Do we know the order of DLC releases ?
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>>324239351
No, some people just claimed it's gonna be the order the pic showed.
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>>324238428

really hyped to buy this game. fell out of sfiv after super but excited to get back in. loving the newcomers and the returning characters. everybody looks so fun to play. i think i'll try ken, birdie, and necalli, but i really want to main nash. i hope one of those characters click with me
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>>324239442
Then I'd have to wait 6 months for Balrog, that's too fucking long.
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>>324238428
Can't believe what they've done to vega, been maining him since II turbo.
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>>324238428
No Dudley or Makoto, and it's even slower than SF4. No buy.
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>>324239351
>>324239558
It looks like Balrog gonna be first http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/jan/16/i-got-hands-time-street-fighter-5-balrog-back-december-capcom-uk-mentions-first-playable-version-dlc-character/
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>>324239558
Balrog is pretty much done according to the latest WSO.
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>>324239601
>great buttons
>good walkspeed
>no more charge
>much more diverse playstyle
>top or high tier in both betas he was in
>more fabulous than ever

What is it they have done to him exactly?
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>>324239629
Nah, all he said was that he got hands on time with Balrog.
Still speculation with little basis.
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>>324239668
>>324239668
nice, the earlier the better.7
At least Bison and TWO MINUTES are here so I can wait a little longer for my charge boxer
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>>324239747
He's day 1 DLC
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>Sagat is too similar to Ryu
>But ay lets put in an only slightly changed Ken
I didn't realise making his tatsu arcs slightly different makes him not a shoto.
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>>324239923
He's more agressive/rush down
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>>324239923
>he thinks Ken and Ryu are only slightly different

???
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>>324240016
Compared to Sagat, yeah.
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>>324238428
>want to try and get into Street Fighter
>none of the characters in V seem to interest me
I was planning on playing Makoto if she got in, or Sakura which says a lot about my tastes but neither got in. Now looking through all the roster they seem pretty bland, which has always been my issue with SF.

Fang seems kinda neat though, how is he?
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I find Capcom's silence a bit worrying.

I don't think they are going to post-pone the release of the game (it would be too late to announce such a decision), but the fact they don't want to talk about single player modes makes me think modes like Story Mode aren't going to be that good.
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>>324240059
Ryu is closer to Sagat than he is to Ken considering Ryu is more fireball centric and Ken is more abot careful rushdown
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>>324238428
there is nothing to talk about, just got wait for the game to come out now.
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>>324240159
>Fang seems kinda neat though, how is he?

Certainly not like Makoto or Sakura, that much is clear. Pretty much the opposite of their playstyles.
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>>324239747
>>324239629
>>324239901
Are you really naive enough to think they're JUST developing the chracters?
The game comes out in less than a month, if anything it proves that alex and guile are pretty much done and they're working on balrog right now.

And day 1 alex would mean a shitton of sales.
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>>324240192
They already have said what they wanted to say about the story mode.
Anyway SF is not about story but gameplay, if the story is good then cool, but if it's not then whatever, we didn't have story mode in SF4 either and we still played it.
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>>324240192
No one really cares about story mode, hell I'm a huge autist for SF story and I don't expect much.
However it's probably gonna be those bengus style 90's art screens with fights in betweens, and they already explained how they're gonna do a long, lasting thing, so each new character adds to the game and story.

Also on top of story they're keeping arcade so.
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>>324240194
Not really?
Sagat's got a really shitty DP, , TK is NOTHING like Tatsu and he relies on his normals to zone instead of his specials.
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>>324240194
Which still fits in the "only slightly different" definition. They are still both shotos.
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>>324240159
I never got this shit.
How can anyone dislike most of street fighter characters?
Their design is simplistic enough to not be an eye sore, easily recognizable, blends with the style of the game in most cases, can quickly tell where they're from, can quickly tell what they do or the kind of moves they use, etc.
That's all good character design.

It's miles better than the random everyday shit like Tekken or the complete design rape they did to some characters like Vice in kof 13
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>>324240276
It doesn't matter if the characters are done or not. They already plan to release them every 2 months or so.
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>>324240539
Those people are the kind who unironically like Blazblue designs.
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>>324240539
he's a waifufag, there is nothing to understand.
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>>324240539
he's talking about how they play, not how they look, you casual
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>>324240159
If you're interested in Makoto then you want to play Necalli as he's very much based off her. For Sakura the closet you'll get is Karin; you don't have the godlike HP or st.hk button but the rest of your buttons are the same as her's and she plays a very similar neutral game. Her pressure game is a bit different due to no 0 or + on block tatsus but that's just how SFV is being designed.
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>>324238428
I am sad because my shitty prebuilt won't run the game and I have to wait for some work this summer to upgrade.
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>>324240702
Nobody actually likes how Sakura plays.
You pick Sakura if you want to fraud it up.
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If Capcom wanted a LoL-like audience, they should've had the game run on a toaster PC. It actually requires a decent computer.
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>>324240741
Necalli is more like a faster Hugo with a DP and shit grab imo
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>>324240702
Then he must be completely retarded because there's different styles in everything and every new main SF game is ALWAYS about mixing things up.

Either charge characters, zoners, combo oriented peeps, juggle niggers, etc.

And considering he was interested in both makoto and fang after saying the tastes thing on top of acting like he didn't knew jack shit about fighting games is pretty clear he meant, at least mainly, the design.
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>>324240539
I know someone that shits on SF designs for being boring but loves mortal kombat "we literally recolored sub zero 5 times" and smite "the korean mmo/league effect where everything looks shiny and every girl looks like a bimbo".
It's kinda annoying.
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>>324240821
It actually not. You can make it run on toaster if you lower all settings and resolution.
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Whens my dose of aryan yet also has a BBC?
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Who's your USF4 main and who are you maining in SFV?

Cody/Nash for me
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>>324241082
Poison and no idea, probs Fang or Chun.
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>>324241082
>USF4
None because SF4 was a fucking abomination of a game
>SFV
Guile, Urien, Chun-li on the side
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>>324240973
I have a super toaster then, even lowering everything I can't run it without very low fps
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>>324240841
Not really; his normals are for the most part fairly stubby and only work well for whiff punishing and pressure. Your stomps are also either neutral (HK) or negative on block so you can't use them as anything other than fishing with 2 in 1s.

Basically with Necalli you want to try and whiff punish or stuff moves in neutral as you can't really play traditional footsies.You then use that frame advantage to get in close where your normals have a lot of frame advantage and can be mixed up with your (admittedly slow and low range) command grab and DP.

That said, I don't think Necalli is actually that great. His throw range is pretty garbage and he has a lot of trouble getting in or converting from neutral due to the terrible range on his stomps. The fact that his HP buttons CCH is a fairly big nerf because it means you lose damage on a counterhit due to not being able to cancel into a stomp and continue the combo.

Got the best EX DP in the game though
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>>324241082

Mained Abel in 4 and planning on Rashid/Nash in V
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>>324241082
Ryu
Ryu
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>>324241082
M. Bison/Balrog/Vega for USF IV
I don't know yet for SF V, I want to try them all beforehand even though I think I will go for M. Bison, Vega, Necalli or Karin.
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>>324240928
MK2 and 3 might as well have been named "Rainbow Ninjas vs Spandex Pants"
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>>324241082
Hugo.
Gief, maybe Alex is he's good but I'm not the kind of retard to say I'll main a character when I haven't touched them yet.

Kind of a pain, I didn't really want to play a grappler this time around but they were most fun.
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>>324241082
Juri for Ultra but 4 was a real shitty game tbqh.

Chun, Alex, Juri and Urien in V, as they come out and probably gonna main Alex in the long run.
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>>324241082
SFIV
Yun and Chun li

SFV
Karin and Chunners
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>>324240246
I more or less expected that, but I have a soft spot for dumb gimmicky characters. Nash has a bit of a cool design too now that I look at him.

>>324240539
I'm not really too sure what it is about it. I suppose when I first saw it I pretty much wrote it off as everyone being basically a variant of Ryu, but I didn't really know about how the playstyles worked. Before I decided that if I was basically gonna be Ryu I was gonna be a cute girl Ryu and laugh about it. I looked at Makoto since she was another cute girl Ryu and she kind of seemed fun when I checked her out though since I like fast characters.

I guess basically my issue with SF is that characters basically seemed like variants of Ryu or just not my thing (like Dhalsim or Zangief). I checked out a tournament and saw Balrog and Rose and decided that I was probably pretty stupid for writing it off and wanted to try it when SFV came out.

>>324240595
I think Blazblue designs are a bit too wild and overdesigned. I like the Guilty Gear designs though, besides the edgy MC character
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>>324241082
Mained Cammy and Abel and planning to use Karin and maybe Laura. Cammy in 5 is... meh. If you know how to block hooligan and spin knuckle you'd need to rely on her good normals. Her CA is a great punisher against projectiles though.
I wanted to play Karin the day she was announced anyway. I like her so far.
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>>324241082
SF4: Makoto
SFV: Nash
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>>324241082
SFIV: Sakura and Bison
SFV: Bison, Karin, and Nash
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>>324241171
I said more like.

Obviously there's core differences since he's not a grappler but I'm reminded a lot of claps with his stomps and his neutral game does play quite similar.

More than Makoto at least.
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Any suggestions for someone with parkinsons looking to become better at this game?
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>>324241445
There's about 2 real "ryu" characters which are ryu and ken.
They're basically the same but thats their thing, they trained under the same guy, but ken is the rich billionare that adds fire to his attacks and is way faster.
Ryu is the steady guy, he's much like goku, he doesn't gives a shit about saving the world but more of finding a nice fight.

Then the "somewhat ryu" chars which are akuma, gouken and dan, they have some of the same moves but even those are different and are used different.
The rest is just similar clothing, but that's because street fighter takes HEAVY influence on region AND fighting style.

This is usually what I link people
http://fsbossfight.blogspot.com/2015/03/those-tits-wont-be-necessary-pt-ii.html
It explains some designs, the reason why the staff chose some of them and what they mean, character design wise it says a lot about the game.

Gameplay wise they're called shotos because they're based off shotokan karate, and the 5ish characters that use it are usually way different, ryu is the ground character with big damage, ken is usually the flashy more combo oriented one, akuma is the high damage glass cannon, Dan is the literal joke character that pokes fun at these similarities and other games ON ALL HIS MOVES, etc.
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>>324241741
They took hands characters out, unfortunately.
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>>324241082
>USF4
Bison/Balrog
>SFV
Bison/Balrog/Necalli/FANG
There are so many characters I want to main in V
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>>324241646
You can't use the stomps like the claps at all though. The whole point of the claps is that they're plus on block so they lead to mixups. The stomps are either neutral or negative on block (LK stomp is punishable) so you give up pressure to the other guy. They're more like a shitty Sakura tatsu than anything else.
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>>324241082
cammy and cammy :^)
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does the beta 2 crack work on the third beta?
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>>324241082

E.Ryu/Karin.
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>tfw local scene for fighters is literally dead
>tfw the only two things that would make me buy SFV are if the release actually gets enuogh interest for locals to have more than me showing up consistntly or if dan is confirmed
being a didgeridooman sucks sometimes, can't fucking play anyone online without lag problems in any fighting game or children's party game
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>>324241082
SFIV: Akuma, Oni, and Guy
SFV: Necalli and eventually Alex
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>>324242278
the english-speaking world outside of aus (and NZ) is a shithole. and cold.

so be happy.
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>>324242278
>if the release actually gets enuogh interest for locals to have more than me showing up consistntly
The only way this is going to happen is if you hype it up. There's no better time to get people interested than when a new game is coming out.
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>>324241082
4: Dudley
5: Karin
We keep it refined in here.
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>>324242392
Keep telling yourselves that.
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>>324241761
Yeah this basically sums up my generalizations of SF. I basically saw Ryu, Ken, and Akuma as being basically the same thing. Then you got Sagat and Guile which I basically assumed the same when I saw they they have a slow moving projectile move that may as well be a hadouken. I guess I thought that they were all the same characters with very little differences but I kind of realize now that it's just SFs gameplay that utilizes spacing and projectiles in a more calculated way rather than spamming, with different characters using quite different means to play the same sort of game.
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>>324242407
oh believe me i've tried
0 responses all across the board, even with the assistance of my local gaming store
it happeed to tekken tag 2, it happened for smash 4 (fighting game or no i enjoy it), it's happening with SFV

>>324242392
i've heard enough bullshit about other places to be fine with my current bullshit
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>>324241445
>characters basically seemed like variants of Ryu
>Makoto
>cute girl Ryu

Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about?
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>>324240192
I'd honestly just be happy if story was done ala the Alphas. Street Fighter's story isn't a grand soap opera, I'd just like to see the characters chat with one another before the fight.

The tutorial intro (with young Ken and Ryu) was alright I guess, even if the artwork reminds me of Udon Crap.
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>>324242565
Well I'm speaking past tense, I didn't really understand the game. I just assumed that every character had the same sort of game plan with basically cosmetic differences with some characters having some difference in moves but ultimately being pretty much the same. Like, Ryu and Ken I thought were just palette swaps. Once I started looking at the game I realized that was a pretty dumb generalization.
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Honestly I don't feel the changes they are doing with this game since beta 2. Beta 1 was very fun and interesting, but then they started neutering the shit out of everyone and adding weird changes. Wouldn't call it bad, but it's really boring right now.
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>>324242497
enjoy your crumbling dindu-infested tumblr paradise.
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>>324242543
The thing is that you have to remember street fighter 2 is basically the grounds and starting place of all recent fighting games, say, 95 upwards.
And you're quite right with that, projectiles is the main thing new people complain about but it ALWAYS has like 5 ways to punish it, issue is most of these people are new and don't bother reading shit.
Shoto characters like ryu usually use those fireballs for a bit of spacing and in combos, then stuff like guile and sagat which are ALL about spacing and zoning, then characters like akuma which are all over the place and focus on big damage, throwing fireballs even while in the air.
SF4 was highly reliant on zoning, SFV takes more from alpha and sf3 in that it's a more footsie oriented, close combat based game.

>>324242706
Better eat your words kid, the artist for SFV is Bengus, the original SF2, alpha and darkstalkers artist.
It's the complete opposite of Udon.
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>>324242392
Fuck you it's 40 degrees and I just played a laggy, taunting Dhalsim.
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>>324242858
That Necalli looks like Deviantart garbage.
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>>324242967
Let me guess, sf4 was your first fighting game.
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>>324242858
>tfw wanted to buy this
>tfw was going to cancel pc pre-order
>tfw sold out in one day
>tfw only ebay triple the price available now
>tfw wont play brown cammy
its not fair.
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>>324243093
>pc preorder
>pc
You can literally have pink cammy if you fucking want to.
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>>324242773
Sounds like Mortal Kombat must tainted your views of fighting games all together. And hell I love MK for its cheesy presentation but it didn't become an actual full fledged fighter until the 9th game.

Street Fighter has been about having lots of varied playable characters. Understandably SFIV gets flack for having a lot of Shotos but that's the minor downside of making a game with 40 playable characters.

You'll definitely like that SFV is going to make it so no two characters play similarly. The importance of the V-System really spreads each fighter's play style apart. Ken and Ryu have never been more apart now.
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>>324243047
No, I'm one of those creepy olds who never left /v/ and posts in the middle of the night.
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>>324243047
He's not wrong, the art for SFV is pretty subpar and that Necalli in particular looks awful.
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>>324243148
only I can see it, whats the fucking point.
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>>324242858
Okay I am horribly wrong the art is good. I think I was mainly disappointed by the corny VA.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1wF8MDjO5M

Pretty cool Capcom got Bengus back, hope that means Akiman can return.
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>>324243203
That's a good point, MK was pretty much my only experience with fighting games when I played it with my friend when we were younger. Though our experience was just spamming shit until we're dead and using the fatality input we looked up on the internet
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never played SF properly before, only drunk with mates

gonna buy this cos the cover looks amazing
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>>324243216
Nah you're just not used to the shifts and usual bengus early styles.
That Lord Raptor picture you just posted is also Bengus, by the way.
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>>324240539
Vice looks like that because she's a headswap of Mature. It's also a throwback to her design in 95.
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>>324243440
It looks amateur as fuck.
I know who Bengus is and I know their work, SFV's art is just not great.
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>>324241761
>Gameplay wise they're called shotos because they're based off shotokan karate

They're called shotos because for years we were fed this lie by Capcom of America, nowadays we know it's actually Ansatsuken but calling them ansatsus doesn't have the same ring to it.
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>>324241082
>IV
Akuma Akuma Akuma

>V
I want to become king of poking, so I will try out Dhalsim first.
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>>324240192
The tutorial in the beta showed us it will suck. Nobody cares.
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>>324243646
No, that's Gen's thing.
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>>324243475
You could say mature is a headswap of vice, and considering vice is the more popular one they probably designed her first.

And the design is still complete shit compared to her original costume.
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>>324243440
No, it means Bengus got old and his skills degraded as a result.
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>>324243831
Mature was in 12, Vice wasn't, so no, they didn't design Vice first.
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>>324243784
No it's not.
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>>324243784
http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Ansatsuken

>The fighting style used by Ryu, Ken, and Gouken is listed in their Japanese Street Fighter IV: Master's Guide bios as a "martial art rooted as an art of assassination" (暗殺拳をルーツとした格闘術, ansatsuken o rūtsu toshita kakutō jutsu[1]); Capcom USA originally referred to Ryu's fighting style as "Shotokan", despite bearing little resemblance to the real-life discipline. Because of this, Ryu and other characters who use similar styles (such as Ken and Akuma) are still called "shoto-clones" or "shotos" by fans.
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Rugal in V when?
Who gives a shit about tekken people play it like 1 month after release tops.
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>>324244398
>Ken with a moustache
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>>324244496
Ken wishes he was anything like rugal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo4tasdvqM0
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Guys should I buy the Hori Rav 4 for 150 bucks or plop down 200-230 bucks for the Mad Catz stick?

No preference I want something hardy since I remember I broke my POS 360 stick with pic related
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>>324241082
>USF4
Blanka
>SFV
Birdie

>>324244398
Just play Nash
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>>324244579
Madcatz are more beginner friendly, if you buy the rap 4 you usually swap the buttons for sanwa buttons.
But madcatz is kinda jewy so theres that
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>>324244496
>implying there is anything wrong with "ken with a mustache"
how shit are your tastes fàm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVp3meI7TDs
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>>324244602
He's nothing like Rugal.

Sonic scythe is just as shit an AA as GC though.
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>>324241082
USF4
Cammy
SFV
Cammy and R.Mika most likely. Dhalsim looks good too if I can learn him.
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>>324241082
Ryu/Rose for SF4
Mika/Birdie for SFV but basically everyone looks good
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Do we know yet why the 3GB update for the beta ?
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>>324239629
Most of the DLC characters are in the game in some form, since they are all part of the story.
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>>324248876
You know you can download updates right
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>>324248415
It's a mystery
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Is this worth buying a PS4 for?

From what I've heard the gameplay is good, but nothing special and the roster really doesn't appeal to me outside of Karin who I only played a little of on Alpha.
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>>324249570
If you play fighting games you should already know the answer to that.
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>>324241082
Makoto for me in 4.
5 I'll be maining Alex when he drops and having Ken/Nash as my subs. In that order of importance.
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>>324243440
Bengus really just isn't as good as he used to be.
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>>324249707

How? It's worth it if the game is going to be fun for a long time, but most fighting games aren't, especially ones with a whooping 16 characters.
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>>324241082
Adon and Akuma
I'll probably be maining Necalli, but I really want to try Vega, F.A.N.G, and when he's released, Urien.
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>>324249570
There is a bit flaw with offense being way too weak and there are concerns it's going to be a timeout game

NOt meaning in terms of set play, mainly because throws are so terrible and mixup is very rare
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>I'll be maining a character who isn't out yet
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>>324250052
Shhh, let /v/ pretend they know how fighting games work
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>>324250052
fuck off tierwhore
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>>324239601
Made him better than just a scrub killer?
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>>324249932
If you play fighting games you know how much time you invest in them already and you can make a judgement on whether or not it's worth purchasing a new platform.

In any case, a multiplat shouldn't be the deciding factor of a large purchase like this.
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>>324243440
>>324249901
Even that MvC2 Morrigan you posted isn't as good as the Darkstalkers 1 one from 6 years earlier.
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>>324250242

Why would you respond with that when you're replying to a post in which I explicitly state some fighters are worth it and others aren't?

I'm asking if SFV is one that is worth it.
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>>324250443
Well I don't know approximately how shit your taste is and this game is attracting a lot of people who have never played a fighting game properly in their life so I just assumed that you were one of them.
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>>324250175
How can you main a character if you don't know how they play?
Just because they're returning characters doesn't mean they're gonna be the same as their original incarnations.
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>>324250052
>What is character loyalty
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>>324250831
some people choose their character not because of how he plays but because they like its design or background.
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>>324250991
Those people are idiots and scrubs.
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>>324250831
Not him, but there's enough footage to know how all the cast is going to play on a more than basic level.
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>>324250831

When people say they're maining an unreleased character, the implication is that it's tentative based on the previous incarnation or a familiar playstyle. Don't take everything so literally.
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I'd be surprised if Balrog wasn't the first DLC character, simply because he is already in the background as a statue in that Shadaloo HQ level.

He'd make decent 'day 1' DLC, since it'll encourage people to start getting that fight money right out of the gate.
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>>324251118
>There's enough footage of Alex/Urien/Balrog/Juri/Ibuki/Guile
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>>324251068
There's nothing wrong with it if you can get good anyway. If you can't get good with a character yet still want to play with him, then yeah, you're a scrub.
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>>324251184
I just want the game to scream "MUH FIGHT MONEY" whenever you make a big purchase.
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>>324251184
I'd say it goes:
Alex/Guile
Balrog
Urien
Juri/Ibuki
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>>324251218
>Hurr durr
If you are going to play the retard, then fuck off. Those characters won't be in the game in February, cut the shitposting.
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>can't bet fight money against friends

Fucking ruined
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>>324251353
That was the point of the post though.

>>324250052
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>>324251297
In likeliness for day 1 release I mean.
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>>324251373
Is it confirmed there won't be bets? That would be such a cool mechanic that could work even for big events like evo.

2bh we know next to nothing about the game's content apart from the roster...
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>>324251653
It was suggested at their panel at Evo ((?) I can't remember when it was) and Ono just said it was an interesting idea that he'd bring up with the team.
So nothing confirmed.
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>>324241082
Ryu and juri in 4
Ryu, r mika and juri in 5
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>>324249993
That's a shame that on this picture, it's a leopard and not a jaguar represented
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>Be Sagat, Sakura and Mokoto main
>"O-oh w-well at least they could be DLC..."
>DLC characters announced
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>>324238428
Cant wait in 2 months when the playerbase on pc is literally <500 cause everyone is a casual shitter that gives up.
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>>324252041
crossplay

it's all one community
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>>324252041
Fuck you I'm trying my best to be a better player, you have no right to disrespect me
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>>324252032
>Mo
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>>324252041
fighting games will never be as popular as you want them to be.
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>>324239442

Wow they're ging ham as fuck on the nickle and diming jew tactic shit huh?

capcom isn't even relevent anymore senpai once it's fighters dry up it's going the way of Konami

hit. that. lever.
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>>324251947
That's clearly a jaga. Leopard spots are solid.
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>>324252330
You can earn them with ingame funbux.
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>>324252330
Maybe you should actually read up on games before you start complaining about them.
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>>324252041
Street Fighter is popular enough that it won't be a problem.
I can, at any time of the day, start up USF4 and get matches on ranked.
It's basically the only fighter on PC where I can do that.
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>>324252568

enjoy Street Fighter 6 "we need the casual audience" adition with extra DLC and Cencorship for easily offended sensibilities in a game where people beat each other to death


tldr just keep sucking Capcom's little chinkdink
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>>324241082
>USF4
Poison is my main but I dabble in Akuma, Rolento, and Sagat.
>SFV
I plan on having Vega be my main, but I also want to mess around with Nash, Dhalsim and Urien.
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>>324243047

I see this and want to draw right now.
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>>324252330
Capcom stated many times that they aren't doing a good job of monetizing their games. They are right. Compared to the competition they didn't really go for microtransactions and DLC. Playing SF4 was cheap. You had to buy a $15 update every 2 years. That was a waste of potential.

Now Capcom got smart and realizes that it is easier to make money by making all the unlockables be able to be purchased with real money to skip the grind. They also realize steady stream of content satisfies casuals and keeps them coming back.
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>Hotkey spammers on PC are going to ruin it for us
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>>324242858
>that bison grin
Why the fuck would you NOT main Bison ? He's smug as fuck, top tier in canon and ingame, fun to play especially in V and voiced by Wakamoto.

You have literally no reason to not main bison
except if you can't into charge characters, then you're excused.
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>>324249570
>Is this worth buying a PS4 for?
No. Get it on PC.
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Will they make the game not look like shit come launch?
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>>324253052
only guy you should worry about is toolassisted. you don't even have to fight really. just stand there.
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>>324253106
I don't like his normals too much but psycho flame and his alpha projectile coming back are fun to mess with.

I'm kind of annoyed by how unsafe EVERY ONE of his specials are and no more psycho crusher.
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>>324253320
His scissors is kinda safe right?
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>>324253262

>Unreal

No.
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>>324253052
hotkeys are the least of your worries desu

what about inf health cheats, hacked leader boards etc
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>>324253391
-4 on light.
I *think* it can be spaced to be safe but still, really annoying.
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>>324253320
Psycho Crusher is his CA but yeah I get you.
Also remember that the final build may (most likely) differ from what you've played during the different beta phases. Even if they're unsafe, they still made him top tier during the last beta, that just shows how strong he is. His normals are really good
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>>324253393
Meanwhile, Tekken on Unreal.

Though the comparison is maybe unfair since I reckon they're using fairly decent PCs to power their arcades.
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>>324253463
Because that was an issue in IV, right?
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>>324253270
Doesn't ToolAssisted play legit now?
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>>324253609

Am I supposed to be impressed?
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>>324253262
>implying SFV looks bad
Well, I agree that the stages are really bad, but the character models and animations are pretty good though.
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>>324253262
unreal engine modders can fix ugly backgrounds
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>>324253731
>that Abel infinite combo
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>tfw no blanka or honda until 2017
>tfw capcom STILL trying to force cammy down our throats
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>>324253840
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>>324253861
It's gone and now Abel links are a pain in the ass indirectly.
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>>324253731
last beta he was number 1 and 2 on the leader boards with over 200 game win streak.
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>>324253826
in comparison to SFV, that's impressive yes. But it might be unfair comparison since it's likely Jap arcades aren't as shit as PS4.

>>324253840
Yeah it's mostly the stages that's the problem. They need to fix some of the textures and remove those stupid 3D animated objects in the background. The character models (not Ken) are fine though.
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>>324251373
Capcom doesn't want a full Gold Farmer economy undercutting their Zenny funny money trade.
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>>324254027
Is this finally going to be a Tekken without man jaws and huge shoulders on females?
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>>324254153
>people dare to say the game looks like shit
These guys play on shit machines then say it looks like shit. Grafixfags are the real cancer killing video games.
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>>324254027
>The character models (not Ken) are fine though.
Even Ken looks good... his dumb face aside.
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>>324254135
>Online gambling
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>>324253609
>>324254027
It's only a GTX760, assuming the card cooler isn't retrofitted onto another card.
FR may require a board upgrade but no way to know yet.
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>>324254153
>Invisible walls
>Still
So I'm guessing they're just not gonna bother with that.

I think it would be cool if he slammed them against the ground instead.
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>>324254341
Tekken isn't mortal kombat anon.
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>>324254425
Everyone knows there'd be a Gold Farmer economy.

>Friend Chang on Steam or PSN
>"Bet 5000 in Fight Money"
>He lets you beat him after your Paypal payment has been sent
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>>324254364

why does ken look more japanese than ryu...?
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>>324254153

>Invisible walls
>The way Ryu awkwardly snaps out of the falling animation

Even with the shitty art style, they could have at least tried to make the game resemble something presentable.
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Is there like a summary on how all the characters in SF5 will play? I'm trying to decide who I want to actually play.
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>>324255120
You want to play R.Mika, you should play Ryu, but you'll play Ken.
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>>324255120
Just watch videos, if you can't figure out who you're going to want to play as just by that well then I don't know what to say.

Nash is my favorite so far, practically because he's a mix of Ryu and Guile.
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>>324255120
Haven't you played the beta?
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>>324255357
>he's a mix of Ryu and Guile.
Bu he really isn't like either of those at all.
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>>324241082
USF4: C. Viper
SFV: Rashid
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>>324239601
he's top tier
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>>324255550
He's got the defensive measures of Guile but at the same time he can be really fast like Ryu. I don't see how you can't say he's not like a hybrid of the two.

Hell his low/medium flash kick is closer to hurricane kick while the heavy is the traditional flash kick.

And no I am not saying Guile can only be played defensively (especially not in SFIV) but defensive play is what Guile has been known for.
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>>324255357
I feel like Poison players would like nash. They have similar properties on the fireballs and a somersault advancing move. Nash just doesn't have a good reversal. Not that Poisons is particularly amazing but at least it's there.
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>>324241082
Rose/Poison in USF4

Tossing up between Karin, Laura, and Vega in V until Rose reappears
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>>324256082
>He's got the defensive measures of Guile
No he doesn't. Fireball game took a massive hit, Sonic Scythe can't AA for shit outside of EX, and his buttons are all worse versions of Guile's.

>he can be really fast like Ryu
When the fuck was Ryu considered fast?

>L/M scythe is like a hurricane kick
What the fuck am I reading
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>>324256082
Did you not read the OP?
> those that are bad and will drop the game after one month anyway don't actually join the discussion

>>>/out/
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>>324256209
>Rose/Poison
I'm too will miss invincible backdashes.
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is Ryu in this game?
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>>324256951
I mained her back in alpha before broken backdashes, she was even better in that game.

As for Poison I just like instant recovery fireballs and god buttons
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>>324257012
Nah.
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I like how there is a new wave of Rose players out of nowhere now she is seeing results.
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>>324256163
Poison player here. I gave him a shot first beta but I don't think I could play Nash. He is way too slow, sure Poison wasn't the fastest character around, but she could somewhat move. His fireballs and flipkicks are nowhere near as good as Poisons. He also lacks the strong meaty fireball game, rekkas and ex rekka gimmicks, and invincible reversal.

I would rather play a completely different style of character than play Nash because on the surface he looks like Poison.
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>>324257296
The Rose bandwagon reach peak capacity after EVO 2014. I'm pretty sure Elena is the current flavor.
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>>324240192
when has the story mode in SF ever been anything more than animated 30 sec cutscenes?
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>>324257398
Most people don't know how to judge who others would enjoy playing.

You seem to want good movement, shenanigans and long buttons.

I'd suggest Karin or, now this is a little out there, Birdie. I see a lot of Rose, Poison and Makoto players going to Birdie.
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>>324240276
>And day 1 alex would mean a shitton of sales.
lmao all 1000 of you hardcore keyboard warriror vocal fans
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>>324241082
makoto/laura
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>>324257768
it's more like 20 guys in a small room jerking each other off really
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>tfw broke and will have to pirate this
>tfw didn't play the beta so I don't know what to expect

Cautiously optimistic.
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>>324257756
I might try out Birdie.

Too bad there is no true rekka character in SFV.
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>haven't touched any of the bets
>will be picking up a ps4 for this and a couple other games
I'd get it for pc but I always liked fighting games better on consoles.

Any tips for a transitioning zangief player?
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>>324258297
My friend is a Rose main in IV and Birdie just seems to speak to him, you get some really great setups with that V-skill and his normals are all fantastic.

V-trigger movement is crazy good.
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>>324240276
Alex is not nearly as popular as you think he is. He's best known as the butt of jokes about failing to become the "new main character" of Street Fighter.
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>>324258292
>will have to pirate this
what's the point if you can't fight other people? you're just getting it for story mode? seriously?
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It feels extremely basic, even more so than SF4 initially felt. Combos are heavily restricted to certain buttons and many of them overlap between characters.

I feel like, just with SFxT and how it removed absolute guard, people are overhyping the idea that footsies and spacing are going to be the main elements of play when they still were during SF4 even with the stupid amount of 50/50 bullshit in the game. SFV still has its fair share of this with Mika, Karin & Laura being the easiest and safest to do it with currently.

I'll still be picking it up to play with friends but once the hype dies down I think this will end up being received worse than SF4 in the end. Of course you won't hear any of this until Capcom announce their next game, where the cycle begins again.
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>>324258579
He's very popular in America but far from the most popular.

The outcry over him being a background character at NYCC was pretty big though.
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>>324258786
It's interesting he's a background character yet also a planned DLC character before the game is even out.

What happens when you play Alex on the NY stage?
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>>324241082
Abel in USF4

Going to try Necalli, Laura, and Nash until Alex is released
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>>324258938
What happens when you play Hugo on Skyscraper Under Construction?
Or Balrog/Vega on Africa?
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>>324241082
>sf4
Abel
>sfV
Rainbow Mika!!

Seems like a natural progression + i'm looking forword to having a fighting games waifu
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>>324258938
He probably gets replaced with someone else.

Just like with the Africa stage in SF4 switching between Bison, Vega & Balrog
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>>324258693

I play at locals, online doesn't bother me.
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>>324258426
if you're gonna play gief again note that his spds are slower and you can't really get a mix up off them on knock down.

he has even less combos now than before besides counter hit combos. lariat isn't as good of an anti air as it use to be, so you use cr fierce now.

tick throwing with him is pretty strong right now. he's more sf2 gief now.
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>>324254027
the stages aren't the main thing you should be looking at anyway. After a while the stages will get old and in a tournament distracting yourself with dancing bears in the background will get you bodied
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SF noob here. I just wanted to ask if all characters of IV will appear in V, too?

And I was reading lots of "V will be shit compared to IV" - why?
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>>324258938
he gets replaced with guile
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>>324259101
ah, well then carry on.
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I heard something about pirating the beta. How does that work?
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>>324259134
>all characters of IV will appear in V, too?
Hell no, there's like 50 fucking characters in that game.

>"V will be shit compared to IV" - why?
Lots of reasons that you really need to be familiar with the game to understand but it's mostly subjective.
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>>324259134
No, not everyone is returning, not even everyone from SFII is returning.

SFV is built on hard reads and fundamentals, which 09ers think makes the game less skilled since players don't have to plink or spends hours in practice to get that one frame combo into ultra just right
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>>324259107
>he has even less combos now than before besides counter hit combos

Acceptable, one of the reasons I mained gief was because I was always below average at executing combos.

> lariat isn't as good of an anti air as it use to be, so you use cr fierce now.

Shit, I used lariat a shit ton, from AA to dodging fireballs to messing with people's wake up.

>tick throwing with him is pretty strong right now. he's more sf2 gief now.

This is excellent, how good is kara throwing on him?
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>>324242097
>that sakura
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>>324259107
Basically, Gief is a real grappler again.
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>>324241082

Makoto/Poison. Looking to scum Karin and pocket-scum Vega in 5. Hopefully Makoto will come back in the next character wave.
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>>324259492
he can still kara spd. i caught many people misjudging the range on lp spd.
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>>324259338
>>324259441
>not everyone is returning

That's a bit sad, from my noob point of view. I liked Oni, for example. But he was basically a clone, right?

>which 09ers think makes the game less skilled since players don't have to plink or spends hours in practice to get that one frame combo into ultra just right

That sounds actually great. It opens the field for new players.

My brother will have birthday on the upcoming days and I've got so far an arcade stick from mayflash for around 70 bucks. SF was never my thing, but he wanted to get into, and I want to throw in SFIV of SFV. The price difference is not important, I just want to get him the better game.
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>>324259492
kara spding is still good.
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>>324259750

Oni wasn't a clone.
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>>324259492
Lariat is still a good anti fireball and now can actually function as a combo ender in some cases.

No kara throws and while L SPD is longer than most grabs and some normals it's not as ludicrous as IV.

Oh, and don't forget, no green hand.

He has more in common with Hugo than IV Gief I'd say, what with the armoured normals and lack of green hand.
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>>324241082
T. Hawk/Dhalsim or Birdie.
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>>324241082
Rose/Birdie or Laura or Necalli or Ken

I'm not 100% sure who I'm going to choose until I play the release day versions, but my interest is in that order.
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anyone got a link to a playable crack?
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>>324259750
Because of the way V's input system works there's a lot less freedom in combos.

Oni was a clone in that he was a shoto like Akuma/Ken/Ryu but really, none of them end up playing alike.


The core cast in this game was chosen because they all play very differently from each other.

>>324260073
Boku no google
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>>324240539
too 80's inspired plus every male looks like an ape, not enough body variant, everybody looks boring

i like cammy though, design and gamleplay wise
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>>324241082
>USF4
Dudley
>SFV
Probably not going to have a main until Urien. Going to bounce around and play everyone.
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>>324260073

there is no point even playing the crack now anon, the game is out in a few weeks and it will be different, again, with even more nerfed frames and combos.
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>>324259956
>Oh, and don't forget, no green hand.
God damn it, I don't know how many wins I've gotten from abusing ex green hands retardedly fast speeds.

Not to mention its ground covering abilities.
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>>324260240
I can only find the crack fr the second beta. Not the last one.
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>>324260479
you have meaty punches with super armor and vacuum lariats now, you'll be fine
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>>324260479
As a Hugo player the gimmick Gief tears please me to no end.
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Someone fucking explain to me why I can play tekken but I'm disgustingly bad at street fighter? Something feel reallydifferent but I just don't get why I can play tekken at a decent level.

Also, do you have to have a stick for SF?
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>>324260849
Because 2d and 3d games are vastly different?

Or, maybe you're actually really shit at Tekken and you don't realise.

No you don't.
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>>324249570
I bought a PS4 for it but I also knew I was going to get other games for it and not just SF. Lots of people are going to be playing on the system used for tournaments which is the PS4 but if you don't care about all that and don't have a PS4 then just get it for PC.
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>>>324260479
don't worry, gief has other bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZiyzl4NK2s
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>>324260849
Nobody can explain that to you.....you have to figure it out yourself.

No.
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>>324261257
That will be patched.
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>>324260849
I won't say tekkens easier, but tekkens one of the few fighting games I know that button mashing will actually come out on top of mid lvl play or lower.

So do you resort to button mashing?
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>>324261339
yeah, probably. but who knows what tech will see once the game is out.
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>>324261257
That really should be removed.
It's clearly a bug and as much as I want him to have retarded tech that's really ridiculous.

Really hoping EX Air SPD still beats DPs though, it's a hard read and easy to punish so it seems like a fair tradeoff.
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so is the game still slow and boring as fuck to watch, with people going back and forth back and forth, without never going in?
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>>324253840
>They still haven't gone back and fixed standard Ryu's gelled tips
Why? Hobo Ryu's hair looks so much better
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I CAN FEEL IT COMIN OVER ME
I FEEL IT ALL AROUND ME
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>>324261516
Ultra was hype as fuck. SFV so far looks boring. I imagine it will be more fun to play than to watch, unlike SFIV which was more fun to watch than to play.
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>>324261685
I'VE BEEN WAITING ALL MY LIFE
ITS MY DESTINY
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>>324261342
No, at least, not anymore I think. There's just something different. I find it hard to pull off a string of moves in street fighter whereas I can easily pull off a chain and a juggle in tekken. Something is definitely different in terms of combos.

Of course I have very limited knowledge on this topic so I need someone to clarify this for me.
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>>324261645
wish they had made this his default appearance. Standard ryu is so fucking boring
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>>324253826
LOOK AT THOSE THIGHS YOU RAGING HOMOSEXUAL
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>>324262086
Those have nothing on chun's. Specially in that preorder bonus dress.
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>>324260663
Hugo has a lot more low level gimmicks though and that's the problem. Random EX Greenhand is a huge risk against anyone who knows what they're doing the same as going for YOLO Meat Squasher so you can oki.
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>>324262418
Whiff green hand EX SPD is a pain in the ass to deal with, way more so than any Hugo gimmicks.
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>>324254935
I'm kinda new to fighting games and SF, but I thought the snapping was intentionally put in to help with frame recognition.
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>>324261257
Wow, is that really still a thing? You could do that with Mika's anti-air grab way back Beta 2.
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>month away to play with laura again
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>>324263276

are they going to fix this shitty clipping affecting most of the characters?
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>>324263276
>month away to nothin personnel kid
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>>324263630
Hyped for Guile vs Charlie, but afraid Guile is going to be shit.
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>>324263630
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>>324241082
Chun/Chun
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQpGzYMVos
>These are the fuckers making the new "Indestructible"
Cheesy J-rock ain't as great as the beauty of Indestructible but it'll be fun I think.
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>>324263793
Why did you post a screenshot of Edgelord Kombat?
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SF4 is, was, and will always be shit and SF5 will follow in its footsteps.

I'll stick with actually playing an good sf game.
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>>324263950
>Air parry fighter 3
>Good
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>>324241082
Dan/Birdie
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>>324264112
spotted the 16er.
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>>324263950
I will always stand by my belief that perfect parrying was a mistake.
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>>324262519
R.Mika basically has that now with whiff cr.hp EX Typhoon.
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>>324264349
Classic 3shitter response.

Why don't you play a real game like OS Fighter 2?
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>we're nearing launch date
>I still don't have a way to play
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>>324254153
>>324253949

Necalli really looks great and easily the best model compared to the rest of the cast. The texture on the skin looks great. nobody else has that

>>324254027
I think Mika's model is easily the worst
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>>324264697
It's simple just play the way mike ross play street fighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbomcBefis
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>>324264697
Oh fuck do you have the other ones of these?
I remember they were comedy gold.
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>>324262269
>Those have nothing on chun's

Can anything even BE compared to Chun Li's thighs? That's literally unfair, since her thighs are a miracle.
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>>324241082

Chun and I'm not sure who to main in SFV since I heard Chun is garbage.

Who's the top tier right now?
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>>324264837
dunno all characters on beta III had good textures on 1440p
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>>324264876
I meant my laptop can't run it and I don't own a bloodborne machine
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>>324264996
Chun
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>>324265001
Nobody has those textured pores like Necalli.

I'm assuming it's because he's basically naked so it's a good place to put all the resources. whereas everyone else has various little doohickeys and accessories that need texture work. It also makes him looking more serious than the other characters. Necalli looks downright GORGEOUS compared to everyone else in the game.

Looks fuckin weird compared to everyone else though.
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>>324265306
Your laptop could run it but you would have to make a good number of graphical sacrifices to get a decent framerate.
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>>324265456
Because Necalli is the flagship character of SFV, that's why he's so detailed
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should I main Laura or Rashid? I really liked both of them
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>>324265465
But unlike a lot of video games, graphics are a crucial part of fighting games
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>>324265571
0-4 Laura
5-9 Rashid
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>>324265456
Ryu looks insanely detailed as well.

I mean, look carefully at his model and then look at someone like Ken. You can actually notice the difference between the two models, ugly face and hair aside.
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>>324265571
rashid will be more annoying to many people so go with him.
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>>324264996
Chun is top tier as fuck in this game
It looks like this

>God Tier
Nash
Chun-Li
Vega

>Top Tier
Zangief
Rashid
Cammy
Karin
Bison
Birdie

>Mid Tier
Mika
Ryu
Ken
Dhalsim
Laura
Necalli

>Unknown Tier but probably mid
F.A.N.G.

I think we can all agree that no one in this game is really a low tier as of yet
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>>324265456
I honestly think he was one of the first one to be modeled and it just took to long to get that level of detail for the rest of the cast so they had to reduce the time on characters creation
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>>324265706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>324265753
I disagree with your list vehemently.
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>>324265753
how cna you have a mid with no low
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>>324265753
Vega was only god tier in beta 2 after which he has been nerfed immensely.
Since your list isn't alphabetical I'm assuming it's in order of best to worse, so I'm assuming you think Necalli is the worst. This only proves your list is shit
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>>324241082
Ken Masters and KEN MASTERS

With some Cammy, and probably pocket Karin.
Mika and Chun also look kind of fun who knows.
Also im really fucking excited for Alex so if he's good im gonna be putting in major time with him.
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>>324263878
Digg the song, but why are they furries?
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>>324266248
Japan.
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>>324265909
make one of your own then
this is a discussion after all
>>324266024
putting a character in low tier at this point doesn't do them justice
That being said the mid tier could just be the low tier but i decided to put god tier to better separate the better characters
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>>324241082
Guile/Nash(/Guile when he comes out)
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bet people play only character that has good v-reversals. vega reversal is shit for instance he just backflips while other characters can do damage and push opponent away
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>>324266382
i never saw anyone using v reversals during the betas
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>>324266382
Vega is top tier.
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>>324266302
>do it yourself then
Is there a more meme argument than this ?

food analogy incoming
I have the right to say that what the chef cooked is shit even if I don't cook myself
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>>324266382
I doubt it; V-Reversals are pretty bad and the pressure game isn't that strong especially because it generally resets to neutral after each combo.


Right now the only character who doesn't feel that good is Necalli. Maybe Laura as well as she has trouble converting hits to damage safely.
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>>324266382
When will the vega v-reversal is shit meme end? His is the only v-reversal that can punish safe on block strings.
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>>324266487
i used them often. vega vskill barely hit anyone so it was better to spend them to get stun meter away if opponent got good offense.
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>>324265753
>tiers are mid, good and better

For their to be something "better" than average something has to be "bad" by comparison.
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>>324266487

The two betas I participated in, I think I played against one person who used a v-reversal. It's something I have to get used to using myself.
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>>324241082
Makoto
Karin
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>>324266647
counter food analogy
if you're at a chef summit where people are submitting dishes for testing, while you are welcome to call a dish shit, you will be expected to put forward one of your own
because we're chefs
at the summit
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>>324266487
It's not an easy thing to use.
Not obvious when they should be used or how, plus they don't do real damage and use up a valuable resource.

Personally I like Ryu's the most, even if it is hard as dicks to build.
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>>324266382
Doesn't he have two V-Reversals? Or was that Rashid?


I hardly see V-Reversals being utilized right now though.
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>>324264349
So many people quit SF because of SF3. Even Daigo went MIA for a while. Shit wasn't even a real tournament game in the west until 2003.
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>>324267331
>west

LMAO
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>>324267383
>evo
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>>324267273
never touched rashid during betas
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>>324241082
Cammy/Cammy because I'm a huge waifufag
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>>324267167
counter counter
This is /v/ so there is no way this could be a summit of something, if maybe a retards summit.
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>>324267709
they should had atleast change her in some way. everyone just waits to get that preorder outfit.
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>>324265753
its pointless to be talking about tier lists right now. Also, I don't think there are going to be any characters that are absolutely garbage. I think they all will be competitive. Rashid was probably the worst in the last beta. But still good enough to be competitive.
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>>324265753
That tier list is retarded, Actually, talking about tiers at all right now is retarded.
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>balrog is the first dlc character
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>>324267709
Jesus christ what is that
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>>324266302
Alright fine.

>Broken, will be nerfed to shit, 70% CC combos ain't staying tier
Gief

>High-ish tier
Claw
Karin
Mika
Cammy

>Pretty decent tier
Ken
Dictator
Nash
Rashid
Mika
Ken
Sim
Necalli

>Kinda shit but not *really* bad tier
Ryu
Chun
Laura

Did I miss anyone?

Also these tiers are super close and just based off my subjective experiences.
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>mfw no fight money
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>>324266382
>while other characters can do damage
Its white damage
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>>324267383
>mention a Jap
>lol who cares it's just stupid westerners where I live and grew up, I totally played with Nuki all day every day
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I played the beta
It feels like SFxT

Did not like it much
Still excited for release for some reason
Might get a new stick
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>>324268908
well getting space is the most important part. if vega is against wall and he uses vreversal situation dont change and lost two bars
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>>324268523
It was just a quick pick from my Cammy folder.
I have better.
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>>324268721
You put mika twice and missed Birdie, who is high-ish tier.
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>>324269191
>Skullshitter being retarded as usual
No surprise. I bet you browse /sgg/ and /fgg/ as well.
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>>324269327
Cheers mate, knew I'd fucking screw something up.

>High-ish
Birdie

>Decent
Mika
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>>324269403
i dropped skrullgrills when they delayed the 360 patch for over a year
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>>324269242
vrevs are only one bar
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>>324252106
Everyone is going to disable crossplay because of the lag.
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>>324269914
>We could have had the top right as Juri

FUCK
EVERYTHING
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>>324270256
>not wanting the faith from mirror's edge nike™ edition.
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