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Is this game actually hard or am I just shit?
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Is this game actually hard or am I just shit?

Admittedly, I've never played any of the DmC games or anything similar
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>>324190232
It's pretty easy outside of the hardest difficulty.
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>>324190232

its really not THAT hard. you simply must get good my friend
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>first time playing through
>after every single fucking level
>"WHAT A DAY"
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>>324190232
It's not hard outside of the bullshit instakill segments.
Don't worry if you only get stone trophies on your first playtrough, that's normal.
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>DmC
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>>324190232
It's easy compared to DMC. Learn how to dodge offset and don't be afraid to dodge a lot. Learn what the best combos to use are (YBY and YYBBB are great), but try to prioritize dodging attacks over dealing damage at first.
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>>324191895
think of this way anon: it couldn't be worse!
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>>324190232
If you're just starting out playing this type of game, then yes it will be hard. Don't worry, everyone gets decent with enough practice and then you will enjoy it.
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>>324190232
you shouldn't panic or go straight into wicked weaves all the time. Work longer combos, like PPKKK or PPPKKP, and make sure to hold the attack button every time, especially when you're dodging mid-combo, this will be really important for alfheims and some harder battles.

Replay the first few stages a lot, they've got plenty of fodder enemies for you to learn timing and combos on. Always explore the stage when you can, you'll find hidden fights and items. When you have the money, buy the moon of mahaa-kala and learn to defend against some enemies by pressing the stick in their direction while attacking, it helps tons in the jeanne fight and others. If you want to get a lot of money, while also forcing yourself to git gud, buy the gaze of despair. It also makes enemies attack much more frequently which will help you learn dodging and positioning.

Enemies won't start ranged attacks if they're off-camera, this helps a lot with kinships or enemies with beam attacks. Don't worry about healing or dying on your first run through the game, it's really more for practice.

I recently completed the game entirely and just learning to hold down the attack buttons and playing through with gaze of despair helped a lot to build knowledge of how the game worked. Stick to it and you may one day not be raped by Gracious and Glorious.
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>reading this thread

It just doesn't sound like a fun game to play.

At least DMC's inputs MEAN something, every button press.
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It definitely takes some practice, don't expect too much from yourself on your first play though, but once you git gud it will be a lot more enjoyable
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>>324194738
Oh it's one of those threads. Okay then have fun
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>mfw i finally got the platinum ticket
>mfw it automaticly changes to infinity non-stop climax
>mfw i also forgot to take the gaze of despair off
should i try to get the climax brace and angel slayer first?
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>>324190232
>DmC
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>>324195541
>WAAAAAH STOP NOT LIKING WHAT I LIKE WAAAAAH

The inputs are arbitrary, so the gameplay is crap.

Deal with it.
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[TRIGGER WARNING]
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>>324195930
she's still looks gorgous as ever, but she NEEDS the glasses
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>>324195930
p-put those back on!
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>>324195930
LEWD
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The normal difficulty is relatively hard.

Normal Difficulty Rankings:
>DMC3>>Bayo>>>>DMC1>>>>DMC4>Other Platinum Games (W101, MGR, Transformers, Bayo2)
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>>324194738
it's my favorite game, maybe look up some gameplay or play the demo if you have a U. it just isnt for some people
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>>324195930

Who is this ugly bitch?
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>>324192009
No its not you fucking degenerate,the least I got was silver.
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>>324196024
>>324196090
>>324196092
>>324196195

Heresy
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>>324194738
in bayo 2 literally every button you press matters and does something aside from "y" i think because it is the "use" button
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>>324195930
you just sent me to hell. fuck you.
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>>324196303
what part of "she needs the glasses" didn't understand?
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>>324196303
thank you
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It's pretty hard when you're first playing it unless you have experience with games like DMC/Ninja Gaiden.

Protip: Buy Bat Within ASAP, I believe it shows up in the shop after chapter 5.
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>>324191895
I'm half way through Bayonetta and I have only gotten Gold trophies so far, how can you fags be this bad, I didn't even know Stone trophies existed
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>>324196370
Y lets you shoot freely, which keeps enemies in the air and allows you to maintain combo even when far away from enemies. I don't think bayonetta has a single input that isn't considered. The analog readings can be used for parries, for double taps or back-forward taps, as well as any 360 being read at any time during any movement, including the 360 attack. Even the lock on button can soft stun enemies and be used to reset their idle animations.

why respond seriously?
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>>324196785
Sorry, are you playing on very easy or easy, scrublord?
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>>324196897
Normal, it's my first play through so I can't play hard.

>calling someone a scrublord because he's that insecure
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>>324197057
>lying this hard on an anonymous board
alright, scrub
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>>324196897
Also I have beaten all the DMC games, GoW games, etc... So I am used to these types of video games.
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>>324197193
Just because you're bad at video games doesn't mean everyone is. I have no reason to lie on an anonymous image board, but believe what you'd like. Have a nice night.
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>>324196785
>only gold
>no platinum on fortitudo

step it up
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>>324197297
Have fun getting those golds on very easy, man
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>>324196897
so this guy sucks at vidya
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>>324190232
I'm loving it. Only gotten stone trophies but its a fun as fuck game and for my first playthrough I am happy. Just turn the difficulty down to normal maybe, op.
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>>324196897
>>324197412
So many shitty players. How are you fags this bad at Bayonetta? It's easy as fuck, all you do is dodge shit and combo.

And no, I'm playing on Normal, I have never played a game on easy before.
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>>324196851
damn i dont even realize am i pressing that button in combat

the ptsd of those stupid challenge rooms has caused me to forget some i guess
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>>324197583
You can't play higher than normal on your first playthrough
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>>324197406
It's my first playthrough and I haven't gone back to replay any missions so far.
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>>324195801
>The inputs are arbitrary
What does that even mean.
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OP here, I got one Pure Platinum medal in like chapter V and I thought I was hot shit. I gave up on Chapter VI because enemies kept fugging my day up.

;_;
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>>324197691

>Implying you're finding/completing a lot of hidden Alfheims on the first run.
>Implying you hit every insta-death QTE on the first try.

Anon there's no need to lie.
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>>324190232
On my first playthrough I got stones for every level except the bosses which I found a lot easier
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>>324197958
play remember me

bayonetta definetely does not suffer from this but the really bad bamham clones really boil down to mashing one or two buttons and nothing else, even most of those inputs however are really pointless and could be replaced with just holding the button down in practice

basically the opposite of bayonetta
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>>324197969
keep trying anon, once you got all moves, normal will become so easy that you will enjoy massacring the same enemies that fuck you up right now
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>>324196120
dmc3 is hard because the gameplay isn't as good.
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if you've never played any game similar to this one you will have trouble with it for a while, but you will eventually get good enough to play all the way through normal mode and even hard mode if you persist

it's normal to die a lot if this is your first time playing a game like this one, don't worry about it OP. But you have to take it upon yourself to start learning how to dodge, and memorize some combos, if you want to improve
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It is not that hard to get Silvers and Golds in Bayonetta on a first playthrough. You're guaranteed a Silver just for not taking any damage, and a Gold if you're playing in Hard mode.

If you're getting consistent Stone awards, then you just suck, period.
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>>324198207
I love the music of battles but some enemies are just stupid and I can't play video games. The "mash circle" torture attacks are the worst because it's harder to mash circle rather than square or triangle.

Also, I'm pretty drunk right now
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>stupid as fuck obvious as shit retarded bait
>someone replies to it anyway
You're the reason this site is garbage, fucking morons taking everything at face value at getting their panties twisted over some shitpost
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>>324198507
>not trying to turn the bait threads into geniune game discussion
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>>324198014
>thinks QTEs are hard
>gives up when anything is a little challenging
I can't believe people actually find this game hard, compared to DMC3 its a breeze. Fucking embarrassing. Anyway, I'm leaving this thread, it's full of plebs and shitties.
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>>324198457
This.
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>>324198014
>tower falls
>you need to jump out or you instantly die and lose a trophy rank
>in the nick of time, the game allows you to press the gunfire button to jump
>pressing it twice or too early is considered a wrong input

I love you, kamiya, but I'll kill you
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>>324198014
>not actively searching for collectibles
>not being observant
>not being good
You're just bad
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>>324199094
It's a fucking QTE, are people really this retarded? Are you all playing this game drunk or high? All you have to do is press a fucking button when you see it pop on screen. It's not like this is a new phenomenon
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>>324199147
>doing the "stay half a minute in the air" alfheim without kulshedra

I really wish I hadn't, in hindsight
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>try to memorize combos and techniques
>get raped
>stop caring a mashing buttons
>PLATINUM!

You literally have to turn your brain off to enjoy these types of games
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>>324199313
>Doing this
on the PS3 version
It was torture but I did it.
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I can't get pure platinum on any level, not even the tutorial, but I've beat it on hard mode and really enjoy the game anyway

I do try to get pure platinum but I'm not good enough
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>>324199313
I retried is about 15 times but I still did it, people give up way too easily these days. No wonder barely anybody beats the Souls games
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>>324199342
In reality
>Mashing buttons
>WHAT A DAY
>remember to chain with the gun and get stylish
>PURE PLATINUM
You need to git gud my friend.
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>>324199303
the player has no reason to assume that he'll have to press that particular button. In fact, the exact same situation occurs later in the same level, with a falling bridge, and you press the jump button to survive it.

It's sloppy design, not challenging or particularly beneficent to the game.
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>>324199313
I found the "stay one minute in the air" alfheim and I gave up near instantly. Literally how the fuck is such a thing even possible? How HIGH do you even have to be to DO such a thing?
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>>324199342
>PLATINUM!
>not "I should've been a pole dancer!" or even "you've been naughty!"

alrighty, then
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>>324199313
I missed the Kulshedra LP on the first playthrough, but I still did that Alfheim because I figured out that you can bounce-kick off of airborne enemies, and foot Durgas do 0 damage as opposed to shots from the guns. It went from a show of skill to a trampoline simulator, it was so easy.

Now the same Alfheim with the fire dog, that's where it got its payback.
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>>324199313
I can do that one easily with the kulshedra? How does that work?
What I did was abused the red-hot kick on the angel babies to get extra jumps and air-combo'd the big guys.
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>>324200119
holding the attack button pulls enemies to you, or you to them, depending on if you're on the ground or in the air, I think. You could then hop on their heads and cause minimal damage, made the whole thing extremely easy as long as you managed to dodge the energy balls the dears would shoot at you from time to time.
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>>324200698
attack+ stick (to the direction where the enemy is)= you get closer
attack+ stick (to the oposite direction)=you pull them to you
attack+ stick (left or right)=pull them to you and swing them around
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>>324199785
Use the whip to pull an enemy towards you, jump off their head, pull enemy in, jump on head, repeat for 1 min
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>Durga into Killgore
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>>324201362
there it is, then. Been a long time since I played and I never got the hang of weapons you couldn't also wear on your feet. Thanks anon
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So I've been playing W101 and why he fuck does every boss in this game have a vehicle section?
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>>324202084
the second one doesn't
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>Get Platinum and Golds for Combos and Time, but get hit a couple of times so usually get around Silver for time
>Game discourages using items to heal, but also discourages Game Overs for dying

Like, I can understand Game Overs taking away letter grades, but it'd avail a LOT of frustration if they just removed the items from the shop and let you craft them in the menu. If you didn't want me to use items why let me combine shit to make items that will lower my letter grade? It makes no goddamn sense.

Bayo 1's a great game, but I'm hoping that by the time they released Bayo 2 they fixed some of these problems. Oh yeah, and giving me a fucking "Retry Encounter" would work wonders.
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>>324202725
>If you didn't want me to use items why let me combine shit to make items that will lower my letter grade?
For those that can't cut it obviously.
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>>324202725
>No "Retry Encounter" button
For a guy who started with Viewtiful Joe 1+2 and only got back on with Revengeance, not having a Retry Encounter button was a fucking nightmare when I was playing Bayo 1.
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>>324202725
the only time that I used items was the space harrier stage. Fuck that shit.
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>>324201542
How do you whip? Is it a technique you have to buy?
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>>324202725
In Bayo2 using items does not diminish your score, this opens up a whole other can of worms because you can then spam invincibility lolipops and demolish bosses without even trying

An no even in Bayo2 if you get hit you got to quit out of the game

W101 has a retry button........but the loading times are 20sec+ each time you retry an encounter

Platinum still has a long way to go
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>>324190232
>Is this game actually hard or am I just shit?
It's challenging.

>Admittedly, I've never played any of the DmC games
>DmC
stop it

i said stop it
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>>324203595
it's a weapon, so go try to find one of those angelic records, i don't remember which one though, it should be pink i guess
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>>324203271
it was fine.

fuck you people are impatient. you can literally just close your eyes for 5 minutes.
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>>324203271
it becomes a bit more manageable if you equip the eternal testimony, hold the rockets for bosses, and just tap the fire button like a retard. Most enemies can't get an attack on you. It's still mostly a terrible stage, considering it's just two verses of bayo's fantasy zone followed by a longass jeanne fight. Doing it without witch time is a pain in the ass.

Still miles better than the motorcycle chapter, though
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>>324203271
the space harrier part is easy as hell what the fuck. and route 666 is only bullshit if you switch roads with those 1 hit kill trucks
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>>324203596
does bayo2 have any rewards for all chapters platinum? I can't remember.
1 gave you jeanne, but playing with other characters was kinda frustrating because you had to start a new file.
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>>324204673
>does bayo2 have any rewards for all chapters platinum?

I think that's how you unlock Bayo's mom, I'm not to sure about it
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>>324204610
I don't find either stage particularly hard, just kind of boring because it feels like an unneeded change of pace which comes across as filler keeping me from getting to the next great fight.

It was my biggest problem with W101, too. Absolutely amazing combat system, but the game loved to make you chase your tail every so often before it would let you fight again
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>>324190232
>DmC games
Triggered
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>>324204673

Climax Brace for all chapter plat.
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>>324204993
It's just Kamiya's autistic obsesion with Gradius
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>>324205142
No that's all Umbrean Tears of Blood
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>>324205330

Swore that was for Climax Brace 2?
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>beat normal
>didn't get any trophy better than stone after stage 6
>played hard until ch 7
>farmed ch7 boss until I could afford pillow talk & climax brace through telephone codes
>cruise through the rest of hard & NSC with that combination because I only wanted the platinum trophy
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>>324205431

Oh I had them reversed. Climax Brace 2 for all chapters plat, Climax Brace 1 for all 50 tears. Darn. So close.
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>start Bayonetta 2
>see horse asses
>get 3rd climax
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Bayonetta is absolutely not a suitable game for a beginner to the genre to play. It is not forgiving in any way. Play DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Shinobi/Nightshade, whatever the fuck else first. It will be a much easier start and it will properly prepare you to play Bayonetta. Seriously if you can beat DMC1 on DMD without using items then you won't find Bayonetta to be that much harder, but it definitely is harder. Even after you're that good you can expect stones left and right.
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>>324204904
Nah, I got Rosa after beating the game on 3rd Climax.
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Still feel they fucked infinite climax up in both Bayos

In Bayo 1 they remove witch time... ok sure hard... but that is the main defining characteristic of the fucking game.

Then Bayo 2 they leave it in and ramp up enemy... everything... great! And then add random arbitrary enemy blocking out of the blue.

Just felt like a missed opportunity
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>>324206173
Yeah this guy has it right >>324205596

Climax Brace 1 for all Umbran Tears
Climax Brace 2 for all Platinum
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>Get Bayo 2 when it came out a year and a half ago
>Play through tutorial and part of the first level of Bayo 1
>Think it was pretty okay I guess
>Put it down and never feel the urge to pick it up again

It sucks because I loved other Platinum games like Vanquish and Revengeance. But whenever I pass by and see this game case on my shelf I just feel like meh and gloss over it for something else.
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>>324203595
It's a weapon. You can look up the LP locations, you get the whip early on. Once you get it hold the Y/triangle button to pull an enemy towards you. Hold y+forward to zip to an enemy and Y+back will pull them to you then swing them overhead.
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>>324206205
>Then Bayo 2 they leave it in and ramp up enemy... everything... great! And then add random arbitrary enemy blocking out of the blue.
Honestly, Infinite Climax in Bayo 2 is more of a chore than challenging. In the first stage on the stage you're fighting giant mecha angels. And it isn't even hard, it just takes longer.
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>>324207389

To be fair Bayo 1 starts off reallllly slow. Oh a fight in a square graveyard. Then you jump off a cliff into a smaller square area with more angels

Meanwile Bayo 2 starts with a massive midair battle atop a fighter jet pursued by flying angels culminating with a massive brawl up the side of a skyscraper and off the very top of it

Although once Bayo 1 gets its feet under it it does go pretty huge up there in spectacle and scale.
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>>324207902

True, but what takes the cake for me was the first battle in Infinite Climax Bayo 1 after the Graveyard where you have to do three torture attacks on the cargo plane's wing to proceed against non-stop fucking glorious and gracious is up there on my list on most mind breaking annoying fucking things ever put in a game
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>>324207902
>And it isn't even hard, it just takes longer.
Just Salamandra everything to death
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