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to Metroidvania's. God damn, why are they so good.
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That's literally Castlevania, not a metroidvania.
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>>324189045

>he thinks castlevania isn't a metroidvania
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>>324189045
you unlock metroid in new game+
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>>324189045
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Define+Metroidvania
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>>324189045
It is a metroidvania because it's a castlevania in the style of metroid.
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>>324189045
i want iga cocksuckers to leave.
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>>324188826
>Love all Castlevanias and especially the metroidvanias
>Can't stand Metroid
Pretty weird considering I adore sci-fi
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>>324188826
its also my favorite genre. some people hate it but i generally enjoy backtracking after getting a new power up and finding what new things i can do in old areas
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>>324188826
What does /v/ Consider essential Castlevania games? There's so fucking many of them I don't know where to start.
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>>324189596

castlevania 3, rondo of blood, symphony of the night, aria of sorrow, any of the ds games
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>>324189596
Circle of the moon is one of my favs but I recognize that is slow at the beginning to pick up and get traction , one you get a few Good card combo sets then you're good to go.
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>>324189596
Portrait of Ruin, Dawn of Sorrow, Order of Ecclesia and Symphony of the Night are the best. Harmony of Despair would have been better if an actual community existed.
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action rpgs are already good on the combat department. adding platforming and exploration to the design just makes the product even better.

i've yet to play a bad metroidvania. they're pretty easy to make right so long as you consult the greats as you're making them.
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>>324189953

portrait of ruin is much better than the other two
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>>324190285
While PoR is my favourite, Order of Ecclesia was better.
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They're alright, but they need SOME way to set themselves apart.
Going through a game and seeing a bunch of purple doors then waiting for the inevitable 'purple powerup' so I can backtrack and see what's in all of them is pretty played out at this point.
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Call them for what they really are, a CASTLEVANIA, you know why? Because Metroid fucking sucks, as simple as that.
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>>324188826
What I don't get is that neither Nintendo nor Konami seem to want to capitalize on the popularity of Metroidvanias. Every third indie game today seems to call itself a Metroidvania. There's clearly demand. But Konami and Nintendo seem to hate money.
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>>324189953
Aria is great too.
OoE > AoS > DoS > PoR > SotN > CotM > HoD
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Played Guacamelee at a pal's flat the other day.
Didn't care for it at all. Not trying to shitpost,if you like it that's fine. It just didn't click for me.
Initially the combat seemed like it would get cool but its not nearly as complex as my friend built it up to be.
The most fun I had were with the little platforming puzzles.
Maybe I'll give it another shot someday.

At any rate, have any of you played Apotheon?
Is that any good?
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>people still use the term "Metroidvania" even though Metroid has been a generic FPS for the last two or three generations
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>>324188826
it has to do with how the reward system in your brain works. basically you're presented with a problem, you solve it, and are rewarded for doing so.
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>>324188826

Because they're easy as fuck and you're a casual piece of shit.

Candy Crush takes more skill than any Metroid game.
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>>324191452
Come on. Look at this trailer and tell me that you're not getting hype

>>324191538
>Nintendo out of touch with their fan base
Yep that's Nintendo, subverting our expectations, giving us what we weren't asking for. Sometimes it works like with Wind waker's style and other times it's a 'Federation Force' pile of poo.
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>>324192156
>Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hjhqwXhMBo
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>>324192156
You know how they're going to be called now? BLOODVANIA

BECAUSE BLOODSTAINED WILL BRING US BACK CASTLEVANIA GAMES
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>>324191882
It's almost as if they're referencing the 2D games.

Metroid Prime is hardly a generic FPS, may I had.
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>>324192260

Metroid is for obese neckbeards virgins living in their parent's basement.

Castlevania is for gay men and yaoi fangirls.
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>>324192553
cant i be both?
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>>324189596
If you only ever play one Castlevania game, make it Symphony of The Night.
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>>324189045
Here's your (you).
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>>324191852
Guacamelee didn't click for me either, neither did Outland come to think of it. I didn't play much of Guacamelee but from what I can tell both of those games feel a lot smaller and contained vs a real Metroidvania. Like the sense of exploration is stunted. Havn't played Apotheon yet, my backlog is too big as is.

>>324192426
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>>324192553
>posting in a Metroidvania thread
So what games do you like?
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>>324188826
>forcing a GBA game to 4:3 aspect
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>>324193105
SotN isn't even the best Metroidvania game, let alone the best Castlevania. Pls go.
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>>324192426
I really don't care for Miriam's design. Iga mentioned other playable characters and multiplayer. I really hope Somacard here has a campaign.
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>>324191882
prime are 3d metroidvania
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>>324193141
>le you meme

Fuck off, I bet you're one of those faggots who also say "underrated post" and "le kuck"
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>>324193487
Same here, all I care about is the gameplay, let the weaboos make their generals fapping to Miriam I don't even care.
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>>324193339
You're entitled to your opinion, but it is more likely than not the best entry point he could take. Stop being a contrarian faggot. Sotn is fantastic.
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>>324193581
Have another (you). (You) could've just asked for it if (you) wanted it so much, geez.
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>>324193581
(You)
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>tfw I finished high school and literally finished my college studies 4 years later
>this game is not out yet
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Castlevania is dead, Metroid is dead, Maze of Galious is dead but at least La Mulana lives on.
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>>324193673
Agreed, I just alwayshate playing the teenage girl in a miniskirt. She's supposed to be customizable though, maybe I'll throw her in the plague doctor outfit.
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>>324193783
Gentlemen, this is truly cancer manifest.
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>>324193581
Here's your (you).
(You) earned it, reddit.
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does anybody has a metroidvania-core chart?

just thinking about how everyone should play Axiom Verge and Environmental Station Alpha
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>>324193165
>So what games do you like?

Classicvania.

It's still gay as fuck, but in a different way. It's a Village People type of gay, while Metroidvania is a Clay Aiken type of gay.
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>>324193697
Fuck, I meant it is.

Start with SOTN if you're new, is my point.
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>>324193916
(you) (you) (you)

There, (you) should be satisfied for a week I reckon.
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YOU'D THINK THERE WOULD BE A MILLION GAMES FOCUSING ON EXPLORATION NOW THAT SHIT'S 3D BUT HELL NO FUCK YOU SUPER METROID IS STILL THE CLOSEST WE EVER GOT TO EXPLORING A FOREIGN PLANET
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>>324194034
It's funny how you said "everyone should play" and then didn't follow it up with "Valdis Story." That's a pretty big typo, Anon.
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>>324193783
>>324193871
>>324193953
>>324194123
Samefag
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>>324194168
This.
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best metroidvania
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>>324194168

Super Metroid feels nothing like exploring a castle, it feels like exploring a RPG dungeon.
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>>324194034
>Axiom Verge

Pointless, boring and bad. Worst locales in any Metroidvania and that's saying something.

>Environmental Station Alpha

Hurgh
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The problem with indie Metroidvanias is that most of them feel like a Metroidvania light. Exploration rarely feels right.
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>>324194296
(You) sure showed me. Have another (You).
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>>324188826
Game?
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>>324194508
>le paint edit meme
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>>324193487
I wanna play that Jetstream Sam-lookin' motherfucker.
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>>324194526
Please be bait
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>there will never be a game with a swag as fuck bearded evil Soma with the player role filled by Yoko and Julius' offspring

goddamnit it's not fair
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>>324194221
jeez thanks anon
it looks too fucking weeb for my taste
but whatever I'll give it a try
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Wasnt lords of shadows mirrors of fate also a metroidvania game? (the 3ds one)
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>>324194324
>no level focused on Vampire Wario

Such a complex and fully realized transformation, complete with it's own tutorial, used twice for seconds at a time in the whole damn game.
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>>324194582
>le "le meme" meme
(You)
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>>324194638
It's not bait, fucking answer me already you piece of shit.
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>>324193673
Miriam being cute will just be a bonus if the gameplay is ace.
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>>324194412
You take that back anon.
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>>324194645
Aren't Yoko and Julius kind of related?
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>>324194526
looks like aria of sorrow
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>>324189045
think before posting please.
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HALF GENIE HERO WHEN
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>>324194741
>le you meme
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>that ratio
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>>324194526
Castlevania Aria of Sorrow, for GBA. One of the best, and best design for Soma Cruz. His DS anime redesign is shit, but Dawn of Sorrow is a fantastic game.
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Have you brushed up on your knowledge about Norse mythology yet?
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Is Ori any good?
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>>324194716
>used twice for seconds
It was used a lot more than twice.
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>>324194775
Didn't necessarily mean like they fucked, just like one or both of them had their own offspring. I like to think that goofball Hammer finally got lucky with Yoko.
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>>324194747
It's in the jpg file name
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>>324194412
come on man they are pretty good games, of course everything looks shit compared to super metroid, no need to shit on those, after all both games are the metroids nintendo is not making
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>>324194851
I don't know how many more (You)s I can give out tonight, Anon. I'm already over my (You) limit.
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>>324194962
It is great.
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>>324195086
So why would I be playing a game that's inferior to what I played when I was 7?
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>>324194606
Swole as fuck. I really hope these gentleman are playable in a realized campaign, not just some shallow shit like playing Richter in SOTN.
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>>324195113
>le you meme

I see some people has a whole lifestyle around it.
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>>324193165
He likes manly non-loser games, like CoD and Madden.
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>>324194962
It's good, but skill tree is pointless and no bosses

I'd say it's better at platforming rather than being a metroidvania
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>>324194645
But Yoko was into Alucard.
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>>324192156
Why would I be hype at all? Does it have new content or anything?
No reason to get excited for a game I already played anon. I don't care if it's on WiiU VC.
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Any good metroidvanias to play in a PSP (emulation included)? I already have played the castlevania and metroid games.
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>>324194704
It was shit is what it was.
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>>324193105
>Not Aria of Sorrow
Get your shit straight m8.
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>>324194751
I dislike cute in gothic adventure games. I want to be a vampire man or a Van Helsing.
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>>324195410
So sad to see CV end on such a high note as OoE. It took 6 tries but suddenly I wanted nothing but more metroidvania.
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>>324195420
Cringiest thing I've seen in a long time.
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>>324195154
whatever bud, go play super metroid again, or some intense hardcore hack of it
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the core metroidvanias, for new players that want to hit the high points:

metroid 3
symphony of the night
aria of sorrow
metroid zero mission

Hard for a beginner, but still pretty dope:
order of ecclesia
super metroid zero mission (super metroid mod)
Cave Story
untitled story

not awful and not great
all other DS and GBA castlevanias

Meme games, shit taste for shit players:
la mulana
legacy of the wizard
axiom verge
ori and the blind forest
nearly all super metroid mods
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>>324194845
soon

so like, maybe fall or winter 2016
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>>324195424
Aria of Sorrow is practically a sequel to SOTN.
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>>324195973
>SotN
>AoS
>high points
Hahahahaha. Pretty sure Portrait of Ruin is better than SotN or either of the Sorrow games.
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>>324191538
>Every third indie game today seems to call itself a Metroidvania.
Which is retarded.
I don't mind calling the post SOTN Casltevanias Metroidvanias, since it does describe them to an extent.
But they are called that because that are Castlevania games.
If another game does it, and isn't Castlevania, then it's just a Metroid clone, not a Metroidvania.
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>>324191882
Have you never actually played Prime?
It pretty much just progresses like Super, but with 3d navigation for fights. And even then it's not like a normal FPS, because it's all auto targeting and mostly about dodging and timing shots, not aiming. Not very generic at all.
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>>324196241
people saying portrait of ruin is good is like people saying bloodlines was better than CV4

the currents rise and fall but the original superior game returns to the top

portrait did one thing right, and that was an amazing final boss, the areas were boring as fuck, and the gameplay was CHARLOTTEJONATHONCHARLOTTEJONATHON
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>>324196342
Fucking this, famicoms.
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>>324195973
>I'm too incompetent to take notes

Hey man don't be so hard on yourself.
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I played symphony of the night as my first metroidvania and everything else seems boring compared to it

zero mission isn't that bad though
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I have played pretty much 75% of the games on this thread, but not this one

what's the definitive version of Symphony of the Night?
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>>324196342
Can you blame them? The Metroidvania genre is almost an automatic 10/10 in the eyes of critics.

No wonder both Metroid and Castlevania ripped it off from the true original, Maze of Galious.
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>>324193871
Can someone explain this meme to me?
Like
>Haha! I responded to you! Gotcha!
I don't get it.
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>>324196615
PSX of course. Saturn has more content but slowdown up the ass, and most of the new content is garbage.

>>324196663
He's stalling you so the rest of us don't have to put up with your idiocy.
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>IGA wants to rename it to IGAvania
fuck him
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>>324196741
You mentally retarded? PSP version (Dracula X Chronicles) kicks the fuck outta psx version, you can play as maria as well as listening to Nocture on English, it's basically an improved psx version of SoTN
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>>324196493
Nah. I've liked PoR better than SotN and the Sorrow games since it came out. I really don't see that changing anytime soon, either. Saying Bloodlines is better than IV is laughable, though, and I don't know anyone who says that.
IV is objectively the best Castlevania.

Also, if you didn't enjoy CHARLOTTEJONATHANCHARLOTTEJONATHAN, there's something wrong with you. I spent like 10 minutes straight spamming the button to switch characters when I first got the game.
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>>324196615
Original Playstation version, The XBLA version is the same, but the post boss fight slowdown is fixed, and playing with the 360 controller isn't very fun.
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>>324192426
>BLOODVANIA
He's already said he wants the genre to be called IGAvania. He didn't even know they were called Metroidvanias until recently.
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>>324197060
One does not play an artistic masterpiece like SotN on a screen so tiny that barely Gradius functioned. And the new dub detracts from the experience.
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>>324194845
Shantae games are babby's first metroidvanias.
They're too easy, too small, too short.
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>>324197410
>SotN
>artistic masterpiece
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>>324197626
>Having no aesthetic sense

Go play >>324194412 while Ayami Kojima cries over pearls before swine.
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>>324197410
I hope you know PPSSPP exists, if not, you're mentally retarded.
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What are the worst castlevania games?
If you were to not play 3 castlevania games (not counting the lords of shadows trio)
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I wish people stopped calling every sidescroller ''metroidvania''.
It's like calling every fps ''halo''.
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>>324189456
if you can't get over that metroid is a girl, just pretend it's a robot. that's what i did.
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>>324198043
SotN, Dracula X, and Castlevania II. In that order.
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>>324198227
wait, wasn't she a robot?
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>>324198043
Super Castlevania IV
Legacy of Darkness
Castlevania 64
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>>324199180
Where did this "SCV4 sucks" meme come from? I understand and agree that it's a tad overrated, but it doesn't suck at all.
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>>324199461
It doesn't suck, it's too easy
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>>324196241
I thought Portrait of ruin was the weakedt in the series.

Gonna call shit taste here.
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>>324199670
Portrait's probably the weakest of the DS entries, but none of the metroid styled CV's are anywhere near as bad as Harmony of Dissonance.
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>>324194845
Shantae sucks

have a (you)
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>>324199670
>>324199771

no way, dawn of sorrow suffers from poor map design and the touch screen gimmicks are stupid. portrait of ruin, has sub areas that are mostly linear but not to the same extent of ecclesia which many places are literal straight lines. tying attacking to mp is dumb. great boss fights but not as good as the game before it otherwise.

official art, not sure who drew it. better than ecclesia's moody and sophomoric style which is frankly shitty looking
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>>324194412

>Hurgh

What do you mean by this?
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>>324199771
>>324199670
PoR is easily the best of the three. I can't understand why OoE gets as much praise as it does, it was severely underwhelming and the glyph system was not done well at all.
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>>324189045
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>>324197060
Shitty new dub makes Alucaed and Maria into teenagers. No.
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>>324200460
Fuck off man, OoE's return to the portrait style castlevania art of old was glorious. The anime shit the first 2 DS titles did was hideous, especially what they did to Soma. Death and Drac looked like Scooby Doo villains in PoR.
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>>324201581
Drac doesn't look so great in OoE either.
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>>324201240
Maria technically is a teenager in it. Alucard's new voice did suck though, he was the only good one in the original voice cast.
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>>324201581
god death looked like such ass in that game. dracula looked alright imo, I like the black slick haired Bela Lugosi look, but it did kind of look goofy in that art style.
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>>324201581

doesn't resemble kojima's art that much. agree that the in game art is childish looking but it's an improvement over dawn of sorrow

would have liked if the style used in that soundtrack poster >>324200460
had been used in game
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>>324194845
Stop this bullshit.
Not all sidescrollers are fucking castlevania and metroid clones.
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memes aside, how is it?
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>Been feeling pretty lethargic, want to play vidya but don't feel like playing anything on my Wii-U or PC
>Decide I'll play an emulated game
>See this thread
I guess I'll finally get around to playing the GBA Castlevanias. Which should I start with? CotM, HoD, or AoS?
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>>324204273
I found it pretty fun with interesting challenges, also as far as I noticed the memes are mostly only in the hub city and not on the areas you go to
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>>324204531
Aria of Sorrow all the way.
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>>324204531
Aria of Sorrow is good. Try out the DS ones too.
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>>324188826
> castlevania without Kojima

Into the trash it goes
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>>324204273
Completely disregarding the memes, it's pretty mediocre. Combat is very easy and the metroidvania elements are so bare that the game might as well be linear.
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>>324189596

Castlevania IV, Rondo, Symphony, Portrait and Lament of Innocence.
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>>324204825
>>324204915
I've played all of the DS ones (DoS > OoE > PoR), and I've heard great things about AoS, are the other two good games as well or are they mediocre?
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>there hasn't been a good metroidvania since Shadow Complex
What happened to the genre
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Anyone else played Hydra Castle Labyrinth?
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>>324205342
Harmony of Dissonance is pretty damn mediocre but a lot of people call Circle of the Moon their favorite in the series
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>>324195973
>listing Metroid titles as Metroidvanias
I want this meme to die
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>>324205491
Everyone is just focusing in what gives more profits. The only metroidvanias I've seen lately are from indies
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>>324202581
Shantae is though.

Its not just a sidescroller, its a map based backtrack adventure while gaining powers and fighting bosses to get further along said map.

Definition of metroidvania bro.
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For anyone who saw Valdis Story on Steam and been thinking about getting it, don't. It is less about exploring and being a metroidvania than it is about back tracking ~10 rooms as soon you got the item at the end of the zone.

The game is ok, you can make character builds for four different characters that play differently so you can have the guy clearly made for melee to be a decent magic user and such. It just suck ass at trying to be a metroidvania. Hell you may as well buy Shovel Knight as well as it is pretty damn close, only diff is that Shovel Knight doesn't require you to back track as much while somehow have more hidden stuff in comparison.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/319480/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1

How is this as a metroidvania?
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>>324206147
its more Classicvania and dark souls then metroidvania
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>>324206147
Looks dope as fuck. I've been meaning to pick that up.
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>>324205342
I like all of them but Harmony of Dissonance was my first Castlevania. It's seen as a weaker title.
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>>324206089
>The game is ok

R I E Z E S E A T L A N
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>>324206147
I looks it uses more the classic formula. I can dig it
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>>324206617
Because its both ear and eye rape at the same time
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>>324206641
O yea, he was a backer on both Valdis Story and Shovel Knight. Funny. What other games did he back enough to get his character shoved into it?
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>>324206903
Runbow and a few others
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>>324191882
Fucking shitty anime poster doesnt know how to hold a controller let alone breath
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Best metroidvania
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>>324191882
>Prime is generic FPS meme
kill yourself
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>>324205567
oh shit i forgot about that game. yea i played it, i think. my memory isnt so good anymore
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>>324207354
Heard about this game. Also a lite pet sim as well right?
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>>324207649
Yup.

By the creators of the best puzzle platformer ever
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Aquaria is pretty good.
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>>324207354
This actually looks pretty fun, I might pick it up. Is it actually a Metroidvania; exploration, backtracking, power ups, etc?
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>>324191919
RPGs tickle my dopamine pathways like no other though.
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>>324208075
Yup.

Blaster powers like metroid/mega man, high jumping, combo beat em up combat by smacking enemies with your purse, and more.

its got great music too
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>>324206997
That image is for what game? Also has he now become infamous enough for people to try to avoid him since he does not care about the theme of the game?
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>>324208286
its a joke image from /adgd/

But people are actually serious about excluding him in some of their campaigns.

Check out his Deviantart, guy is a nightmare to work with, he's rich AND autistic when it comes to how his character is portrayed, and won't take no for an answer.
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Browsing the metroidvania tag and I found this

http://store.steampowered.com/app/332610/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_2

Anyone play this? Looks cute
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>>324208874
>knytt stories

I liked when it was a thing, but when I came back to the community a few weeks ago, I hated how most things were story-focused
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>>324208874
>Monster Tale in meh

Sir I object.
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>>324196486
>progresses like Super
No, it progresses like Return of Samus, or Fusion.
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>>324208874
>listing metroid titles as a metroidvania
Stop this. They play like Metroid or metroidlike not Metroidvania
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>>324195204
(You) want it, (You) got it.
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I've never understood why people like Metroid Fusion so much, it's my least favorite Metroid game that I've played. To me it felt way too cramped and linear, offering very little opportunity for exploration like in the other games
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>>324208874

>Dawn of sorrow
>God tier

Holy fuck no, Good tier at highest.

DoS was a boring slog, bosses were forgettable as hell, the gergoth was a bad fight and we didnt need to fight it 3 times. Dopple guy and ignis guy died with no story at all. and the villains sucked ass.

Horrible sequel to an absolute masterpiece
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>post yfw you will never get to play Castlevania 1999
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>>324194950
So, how do we tell The Father that we kinda killed mom off? Is he gonna be pissed or what?
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So what Metroidvanias are you all looking forward to this year?

Can't wait for Ghost Song myself. Chasm looks pretty good too.
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>>324195973
Hating on La-Mulana is for little dum-dums, anon.
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>>324209507
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>>324209607
I was interested in Chasm two years ago but now I don't care
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>>324208874
>An Untitled Story
>BMD/CatSD
>No CRAZ'D
Seeing those made me think of Raocow. CRAZ'D is a special kind of acid trip, but it's honestly a pretty good Metroidvania.
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>>324209607
Ghost Song and Hollow Knight for me.
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within a deep forest is pretty good if i recall, by the same guy who made knytt stories
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>>324208874
fixed your shit list senpai
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anyone played mystik belle? art style looks cute
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>>324210246
>2D Semi-Nonlinear Action/Adventure Platformer
>2D

You wanna add Dark Souls too?
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>>324208874
I agree with these so saved
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>>324210246
CAVE STORY IS NOT A FUCKING METROIDVANIA, MAN. It has elements, but it's a platformer.
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>>324210418
looks alright and has a charming artstyle yeah, haven't played it yet though
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>>324210428
what in there isnt 2D?
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>>324209607
I can't wait
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>>324210553
Soul Reaver
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>>324210656
Its 2D camera. 2.5 D counts. Same as Lords of Shadow MoF
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>>324209371
If you can name a single boss in AoS except Julius who even comes close to Gergoth, Paranoia, the Fire Devil and fucking Somacula then by all means...
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>>324210708
Been a while since you played Soul Reaver, huh?
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>>324210504
>Backtracking
>Powerups needed to progress
>revisiting areas
>Grinding (gun) levels
>Segmented arena based bosses

Metroidvania senpai
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Anyone got that comic with the messed up bellybuttons where dracula swallows simon?
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>>324206513
>>324206535
>>324206720
Well it was on sale on humble so I tok the plunge. I'll get back to you all on how it is
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>>324210837
Linear level progression. Get shrek'd
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Will it be good, /v/?
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>>324210856
We're proud you're serving your country, son
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>>324210762
>Somacula

Doesnt count. thats a julius mode boss.

And really?
>Leigon
>Grahm
>Chaos
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couldn't get into valdis story
had some annoying mechanics, like this ability that rockets you to the ground when used, except its bound to the down key so you hit it accidentally all the time and it fucks up your platforming. maybe that was just me though
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>>324211007
These are absolute shit, especially legion and his elusive soul bullshit.

>>324210989
How can it be bad?
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>>324210989
I really fucking hope so.
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>>324189596
Aria of Sorrow is the best one
Fight me irl
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>>324195973
Downright shit opinion. La mulana bad and cave story 'dope'? I enjoyed cave story, but it is light years inferior to the former. Its also short as fuck while la mulana is easily the most content-packed metroidvania there is.
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>>324208874
>HoD not in meh tier
u wot m8
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>>324210989
No fucking doubt. It'll be a bit easier, but not by a large margin. Also, more plot. Also, it would be hard for them to create bosses as cool as in the first one, but I think they'll manage. Dem nigoros are good game designers.
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>>324204273
One of the best platforming games out there. If you haven't already, play it.
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>>324211403
There's no way they'll top La-Mulana's bosses. Honestly half the fun was not knowing just how fucking crazy they were going to get.
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>>324210708
Are you ok?
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>>324211152
>>324211403
The dev's may be talentless hacks, they may only be in it for money, Unity may make it buggy as fuck, they may be too lenient or run out of budget, they may not pay enough attention certain puzzles. La-mulana is the kind of game that's REALLY FUCKING HARD to make and make WELL. They can easily fuck it up.

La-mulana 2 is so very, very, very, very easy to fuck up. Not to mention it's even more ambitious since the developers are aiming to reach the next evolutionary step of 2D vidya.

The chances of La-mulana 2 being good are actually extremely slim.
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>>324204273
couldn't play more than a few hours because the fighting system is a fucking chore.
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>>324211356
That's just because it takes 10 hours to solve all the puzzles in an area. La Mulana has lots of minibosses but few bosses, ideally there would be one in the front and in the back and also the infinity corridor (which arguably has one despite what the game says)
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>>324210837
this
>>324210967
backtracking doesn't mean shit when the game progresses through levels in a linear way.
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>>324211512
It'd better be fucking good.
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>>324191882

Posting a smug anime face while being full of shit is grounds for a weabo lynching.
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>>324208874
>list doesn't have Unepic, Teslagrad, Secrets of Raetikon, or motherfucking APOTHEON

Shit list desu
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>>324211512
Did you even play the demo?

>That one place with nothing but pressure-sensitive tiles, all raised to hide their presence
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>>324211598
Honestly, for a game as ambitious and the required skill to develop La-mulana 2, they have way too fucking small of a budget.
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i followed this cavestory clone project called the underside for several years, until it became obvious the dev abandoned the project
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>>324211639
Anon, there's a lot of fucking games it doesn't have.
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>>324208527
I have that game, it's more like a point and click than a metroidvania. Good though.
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>>324211639
>Unepic
Rougelike trash
>Teslagrad
Okay, but meh tier
>Secrets
Hell no
>Apotheon
Also meh
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>>324211672
The demo was on an outdated engine and only showcased one of 20+ levels, all of which, if the game is anything like the original la-mulana, will have hints and puzzles that span across eachother.
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>>324191852
I loved Guacamelee. It doesn't really need to have complex combat, complex combat would bog the game down even more. It just has a way for you to string different moves one after another which is fun, and gives you different combat options.

The platforming is great, but Guacamelee is light on exploration. If you play it long enough you will easily see once you get to the end of an area it will have a place that will quickly loop you at the start of the area so there is little back tracking. It is just easy to see where to go to progress and takes little time to get there.

I think it is the best in the genre due to having more fun combat than Metriod or the Castlevania counter parts along with much superior platforming.
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>>324211512
Shit, man, don't lose hope. Those guys made a game to glorify their MSX favorites. And La-Mulana didn't sell that much. They do not do this for money. It's gonna be at least good.
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>>324211674
The did the first and the remake for free.

Honestly, the reason for La Mulana's success is that it has no budget, so all the features and puzzles have to be as basic as possible. This gives you a fair chance at actually solving them.
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>>324194412
ESA is god
best metroidvania in years
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>>324211481
I meant more like managing to stay on the same level. But, yeah. Creamed myself basically with every boss. Viy and Tiamat reveals were fucking insane.
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>>324211805
Like I said, the way La-mulana is structured it can very easily be unplayable and broken. If they make the game really simple, then it won't live up to the legacy of the original, but it will still be good. If it's really complex, then if they mess up, the game will be objectively bad.

>>324211817
Just because they gave out the original for free didn't mean that it was free to make. They had to put forth the effort and work, that alone isn't free as it requires money to support their living finances.

And despite this, the original La-mulana has broken puzzles and is so outdated/clunky that it's virtually unplayable since the remake is out. The remake being so masterful that it fixes virtually every single problem of the original.

La-mulana 2 only has one chance, unless they decide to make an expansion pack that fixes everything.
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>>324196663
He's responding to your post as if it was bait. The point of bait is to get responses. Welcome to 4chan.
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>>324211729
>>Unepic
>Rougelike
are you making a joke or are you retarded? This is important.
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>>324212082
You greatly overestimate the impact money and time has on a game. Only one thing is necessary, and that is passion.

True, burning hot passion makes it work no matter what, it's what made SotN and Super Metroid good. Gunpei famously complained to the SM staff that they were putting too much effort into it, shouting "are you trying to make a goddamn masterpiece!?"
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>>324212385
An artist has never made three masterpieces. La-mulana's original was a rough draft, and La-mulana remake was nigoro's masterpiece and magnum opus. After such a fantastic, god-tier game got such mediocre sales, it's hard to have passion.
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>>324210989
1st ones not bad and I completed that one aside from a few optional Achievements I missed.
But nevertheless its a solid game and I am sure the devs doing the second one got it in the bag.
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>>324212710
WHAT THE SHIT? AN ARTIST HAVE NEVER MADE THREE MASTERPIECES? Wew, lad. Wew.
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>>324212710
Clearly the remake was nothing new, it's just the realized vision of the first one. I say this because I sincerely doubt equal attention was given to the original Bahamut as the rest of the bosses.

The saddest thing is how they finally released the original and it went fucking unnoticed for, well, I don't know how long, and ti took some unfunny let's player in the west for it to finally be discovered. Imagine putting all that time and ingenuity into a game and nobody wants to play it.
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>>324212951
(You) forgot your meme arrow. Here, take this one instead.
>
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>>324210856
>>324211004
Just finished the first level on second. From what I have seen so far it isn't too bad. There are hidden areas you can get back too as I saw an area I couldn't reach because I didn't have the ability.
Seems like a bit of a mixture between classicvania and metroid. Closser to metroid vania however. Music is pretty nice but the game is a tad bit easy. Playing on normal tho so not sure on how hard mode is.
Also game has a very shitty crt filter as shown here but thankfully you can turn it off.
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>>324188826
dawn of sorrow > aria
OOE is the best castlevania anyway. the old games are a chore to play and control like ass.
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>>324212710
>An artist has never made three masterpieces
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>>324213029
Shove it up your asscrack, fagboi. Seriously, meme culture is too much these days.
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>>324188826
get vba-m you fuckin dork, it's way better.
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>>324213190
>the old games are a chore to play and control like ass.
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>>324208874
>zero mission
>good
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>>324189045
>people actually disagree with you
I am surprised
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>>324188826
Play some Kurovadis.
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>>324213241
>ALL CAPS
>(mis)quoting the other person
>meme finisher
the only meme culture here is (You).
>>
>get stuck
>meticulously search map for a door your haven't gone through
>find it and backtrack to it
>turns out you hadn't gone in it for a reason and you still aren't able to
>still stuck

That exact situation gets me every time and it wears me out.
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>>324213090
I just saw that pic, and Vampire Killer from CV3 sounded in my mind

Looks decent for the price, but can you backtrack? it gives the impression you can't
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>>324208874
>no cave story
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>>324213606
Because cave story isn't a metroidvania, and all of the backtracking is objectively the worst part of the game that nobody wants to remember.
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>>324213551
It's why I never beat La Mulana.
Backtracking all over the place trying to find somewhere you haven't been without a useful map system is agony.
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>>324213604
>I just saw that pic, and Vampire Killer from CV3 sounded in my mind

That world map looks exactly like the one in ghouls n ghosts you dingus.
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>>324213506
Jesus, you're that guy from earlier in the tread. Stop stalking people and think about your behaviour, you fucking (you)-spouting creep.
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>>324213702
I know, I don't control my mind, fagget
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please stop fighting i want to talk about more metroidvanias :(
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>>324211685
he posted a thing on his twitter last year about redoing the graphics, but that was pretty much it.

podunkian's a dummy, and bad at videogames.

merry gear 3 when.
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This game was pretty good though I don't know if you could even call it a metroidvania I also thinik it was released on the gba?

Unrelated but what sarted the whole (you) thing? Every thread now has someone posting it like that, is it the new cuck/bait.jpeg?
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>>324213415
>Kurovadis
What is this game?
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>>324213907
Alucard was the best protag. I always wanted another game starring him.
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>>324213604
>>324213604
You can backtrack and after you finish a stage you can revisit it at anytime to discover more secrets. Also seems to have multiple pathc in a stage since in stage two I chose the lower patch instead of the upper and I have no clue where the upper leads
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>>324191882

And Mario has been a 3d platformer. What's your point dipshit?
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>>324213907
What's your opinion on Bunny Must Die?
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>>324211685
>>324213960
I played one of these with everyone being teleported around in the first cutscene, which was that?

>>324214070
>Ooough
>What!?
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>>324214054
A metroidvania. You won't be disappointed.
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>>324213907
I've never played that many. Tomba 2 is fucking insanely good, as far as I remember.
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>>324214073
I hope you can take other paths to other stages and not some "here's gold, now fuck off"

Also, is he trying to make a meta thread in /v/? He sounds like those anons who make threads like "this semen demon is for ____"
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>>324214137
I cosplay that dude. One time at a con someone walked by and said
>what!?
as he did so. Made my afternoon.
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>>324188826
castlevania is the purest, coldest spring water, drawn by hand from a silent desert oasis. may it rest in peace
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:)
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>>324213241
says the guy spamming wew
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>>324214328
i think they lead to new stages since I see that dotted line heading underground from the first stage and I can't go there. Don't quote me on it
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>>324214624
MOOOOOODS

/vg/ IS ADVERTISING THEIR SHITTY GAME AGAIN
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>>324214501
I really love the original voice acting in that game. It had such a presence. And it wasn't hilariously bad like RE or MM8.
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>>324213970
Hey, that game was pretty good

I think (you) probably started with some memester saying how he relishes seeing (you)s and people started making (you) related OC. I'm going to blame /sp/ or /tv/
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WHAT IS... The best Castlevania item?
>Holy Water master race
>Axe bros are cool too
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>>324214918
What kind of question is that? Obviously the cross.
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>>324214918
>not rocking the paper airplane
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>>324213724
>getting offended when you get the (You)s you so desperately desire
put more effort into your shitposting, I'm bored. Pretending to be an tumblrtale faggot isn't even worth acknowledging.
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>>324215250
I find it odd that there are so many Gradius references in Castlevania, but almost no Castlevania references in Gradius.

Contra? Nothing at all. These three were sister franchises goddamn it.
>>
Huh... I actually rate dust higher than others I guess. I really had a lot of fun with it and it stuck with me!
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>>324215250
>Playing Castlevania HD
>Suddenly, everyone decides to go Jonathan
>Wrecking ball spam everywhere
>Beat Death (it was chapter 5)
>Spend the remaining time running around the level and spamming wrecking ball
Wherever you guys are, you were the greatest.
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>>324214795
Agreed. Psp version was not the same without it. And yeah, I never thought it was so bad even though it was pretty campy.
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Every time this board hypes a game it turns out to be a piece of absolute shit like
>>324207753

or a game that's alright like
>>324207354

It's never actually a GREAT game because I guess that would be too mainstream for /v/ipster to get behind.

Just use this list http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Metroidvania
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>>324214918
If you're a Belmont, Cross.

If you're an Alucard, vampiric lightning is pretty fun.
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>>324215452
Well there are both Gradius and Contra references in Rocket Knight Adventures.
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>>324215689
>Hatsworth
>Shit

Only thing shit here is your taste you uncouth lout
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>>324215098
This. Anything that is tailored for killing Medusa Heads deserves the best item status.
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>>324191882
roguelikes are games like the game Rouge. Do you know how long its been since that came out?
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>>324214624
Actually, thank you, I'm gonna use this videogame to illustrate my point further.

This is a la-mulana clone, for sure. It has very similar gameplay and even similar UI and art style. However, there's one key difference: This game plays it incredibly safe by lacking any sense of connectivity, or even complex puzzles at all for that matter. This game has the same gameplay as la-mulana, but is SUPER simple despite that.

It's in this complexity and fragile structure that make La-mulana so amazing. It requires a lot of passion and effort and attention to detail in order to pull something like it off. However, La-mulana 2 may not be able to replicate this, because it's hard to do something so complex twice, especially when you need to do it completely differently.

This is why La-mulana 2 has such a great chance to fail.
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>>324216071
>Rouge
Please be joking. Please.
>>
>>324210967

close enough. don't be a pedantic dick.

OH WAIT THIS IS /V/ NEVER MIND
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>>324216071
Metroid was not the first Metroidvania though.
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>>324216145
That's why it's guaranteed to be worth playing. Because it is unique.
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>>324189456
>like metroidvanias like metroid and have enjoyed AV
>can't stand Castlevania, especially the rpg elements
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It was pretty Castlevania all things considered.
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>>324216193
>Gee Gears of War has guns you shoot, it MUST be a First-Person Shooter!
>That's stupid, you're stupid
>OH WELL LOOK AT /V/ BEING ALL PENDANTIC HURR DE DURR WORDS MEAN WHAT I WANT THEM TO MEAN, FUCK YOU YOU TRANSSHAMING CISLORD!
good reply.
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>>324216213
>▶
the term metroidvania is idiotic.

just call it a metroidlike.

castlevania wasn't like metroid until way later, and there were other games like metroid long before it.
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>>324214114
its good i like it i need to finish it
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>>324215689
>thread about an entire genre
>couple people post niche games in it
>some retard always comes in going WOOOOOW WHY /V/ SO HIPSTER
fuck off retard those games are both good and there's plenty of people still discussing great games on your little list like Cave Story, Castlevanias, La Mulana, etc.
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>>324216425
Metroid was not the first fucking metroidvania. That's why the franchise never took off in japan, to them it was just a lazy ripoff.
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>>324189596
a lot of people give them shit, but both games on the ps2 are well worth playing, curse of darkness is better but lament of innocence is good too.
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>>324216605
what was?
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Posting favorite Metroidvania.

Dat soundtrack, too.
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>>324216425
>the term metroidvania is idiotic.
>just call it a metroidlike.

No thanks, I want to distance myself as far as possible from Roguelike autists
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>>324216750
Knightmare II, which even had the RPG elements which SotN "introduced" 10 years later.
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>>324215689
Monster Tale is actually legitimately a great game, so is Henry Hatsworth.

DS has a lot of 3rd party titles like that that were great.

It's unfortunate that due to rampant piracy (on PSP/DS) both 3DS and Vita have suffered in their title base.
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>>324216831

Too bad it's never getting the sequel that was hinted to at the end of the game.
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>>324217046
good, because the game was shit.
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>>324189456
Metroid isn't as fun as Metroidvanias.

If you backtrack and shit in Metroidvanias, you always feel it is worth it because of item drops and EXP. If you backtrack in Metroid-games, you are just doing yourself a big disfavor if there isn't anything of interest for you to find. Also, the difficulty in the games are way different, a lot of enemies in Metroidvania has the Diablo-design where you get plenty of time to be the first to attack etc. I don't care if it is more cheap, it's also more fun.
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>>324194168
My nigga
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>>324189596
Start from the beginning.

Castlevania 1. Then keep going. You don't have to beat them, but at least play them in the original order.
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>>324217126
fuck you
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>>324196663
It's just a meme-ier form of "heres your reply kiddo"
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I actually liked Axiom Verge, wasn't a 10/10 but it was fun anyway.

I'm playing through Valdis Story right now.

What are your favourites metroidvanias, guys?

To me it's Aria of Sorrow, played the shit of out it. I like some of the other Castlevanias games too, and most of Metroid games.
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>>324216956
well, doesn't matter.

just like zelda wasn't the first action adventure, but everyone pretends it is, so it might as well be.
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>>324198227
>>324198598

please tell me this is the newest dank meme hot off the presses
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>>324194168
Try Grow Home, anon

It's not a Metroidvania but it does offer a fantastic feeling of exploration if nothing else
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Are there any multiplayer metroidvanias?
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>>324217543
Except Zelda codified the genre and became so popular that everyone copied that, not Adventure or whatever atari crap came before.

Meanwhile Knightmare II was a smash hit in Japan, you know, where games are made, arguably a lot more famous than metroid.

>>324217705
HoD
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>>324217158
>worth it because of item drops and EXP
Oh you mean a item that is already outclassed by what you currently have and exp to make an easy game easier? Oh joy
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>>324194412
except ESA is god tier
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>we will never get a HoD 2 with better game design, netcode and more playable characters
It isn't fair
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>>324217476
I honestly think I enjoyed Portrait of Ruin more than any others I've played.
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>>324217728
>Meanwhile Knightmare II was a smash hit in Japan, you know, where games are made, arguably a lot more famous than metroid.
Except the other half of the world doesn't remember Maze of Gallious for shit, except for maybe as "that thing La-Mulana makes a bunch of references to".

Maybe in moon, people call them 魔城伝説IIのような.
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>>324189596
Who /bloodlines/ here
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>>324217728
I don't see how it "copied" anything really. it's not like it's exactly a groundbreaking concept, to have one giant level instead of splitting them up into self contained ones. it's like a game having jumping and everyone flying off the handle "X game did it first!"
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Metroidvania on hand held is a match made in heven.shame they dont make more.
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>>324217868
>not even HoD on Steam
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>>324193487
it's fairly obvious this fag-o is actually not a bad guy and something something did whatever to Myriam to save her life.

He'll be Myriam's Albus.
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>>324218076
It was groundbreaking, though I suppose you'd have to have lived back then to understand that.

>>324218070
10/10 game, still prefer SCV4
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Shadow Complex Remaster for PC is free if you're willing to put up with Epic Games' launcher.
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>>324194065
>Dracula X Chronicles is hard as balls
>comes with unlockable classic Rondo of Blood AND Symphony of the Night
>Kojima did some kickass redesigns for this game

how can one remake be so based? I'm particularly fond of Dracula X's Richter as his outfit is more appropriate and closely matches his SotN one. I never understood the "headband wearing guy with a ripped sleeveless shirt" thing. Really doesn't fit into the era.
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>>324218315
If you google it you can find a way to link it so it opens straight up through Steam with no bullshit. Assuming you don't mind Steam that is.
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>>324218186
Because LoS sold like shit on pc
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Undertale
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>>324218186
HoD on steam would be fun considering the original still somehow has people playing, though it's mostly Somanways grinding the final bosses on hard mode forever for some autistic reason
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>>324218467

Eh, I use the launcher to play Unreal Tournament, so it's not a huge deal.
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>>324218517
>this game sold like shit so we won't release this other game that is completly different
I fucking love Konami.
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can someone recommend me one that has a shit ton of items and magic/abilities? I always get bored around the 2/3rds mark when I have slaughter gear.
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>Download Aria of Sorrow
>Get to the point where you meet Hammer
>Have a hammer from one of the "x armor" enemies (50 damage) and an iron plate from the boss
I think I may be a bit stronger than I should be, since I'm only three bosses into the game. Oh well, I enjoy one-shotting most enemies.
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>>324218752
Unepic
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>>324218752
Unepic for sure, and Hydra Castle Labyrinth is decent at giving you lots of fun things without making you too OP.
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>>324218752
Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia.

PoR has two characters you swap between. Jonathan has a large arsenal of weapons like Soma, but instead of souls, he has subweapons, which he also has a shitload of. Charlotte on the other hand has a bunch of spells.

OoE has Shanoa who equips glyphs which serve as both weapons and spells in a way. It gets kind of complicated so here's a video of her killing a crab.
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>>324218192
I know he will be, but I'm hoping he has a deeper campaign than Albus did. You know, one with dialogue.
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>>324218971
>>324218786
>>324218873
thanks I'll check these out. Have not really played a good one since the GBA days.
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oh yeah, Strider.
almost forgot about Strider
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>>324219016
Well castlevania was never one for giving you really deep alt modes. I don't even think you could open up a status screen in them, just pause. That being said Albus mode is still probably the most fleshed out because he's not a generic Belmont mode.
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>>324219169
Well it's a pretty forgettable game.
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>>324205073
but Kojima(female) did the art for this one
Then some hack destroyed her art direction with the DS sequel
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>>324219128
all of the DS ones are really good, though Dawn of Sorrow being an early DS title incorporates touch screen gimmicks as a rule and bosses require you to draw a rune after you kill them to actually beat them. If you fail to do it, they revive with some health back and you have to try again.

Portrait of Ruin has a big castle to explore along with paintings (hence the name) that take you to other themed worlds to justify something like an egyptian motif out of nowhere. Order of Ecclesia has mostly split up areas selected via world map and a dracula's castle at the end though it's decidingly shallow compared to most that take place in the castle in the first place. Still a nice surprise though.
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>>324219392
Kojima has stated that her art isn't something the current market wants anymore. And unfortunately she's right. Last castlevania games she did art for I think were Dracula X chronicles and Harmony of Despair.

She'll always be an amazing fucking artist though.
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>>324219392
Switching to anime art was the right choice.

I dislike it but it put the franchise on lifesupport in Japan, giving us three more games before its inevitable demise.
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>>324219175
No, most fleshed out goes to Dawn of Sorrow's Julius mode. Castlevania 3 style character swapping, unique abilities between Julius, Alucard, and Yoko, dialogue as you encounter them in the castle differing vased in who is currently in play, and a special final boss alternate ending battle against Soma Dracula. Truly the most based unlock of any bad ending in anything I've played.
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>>324219175
>no Eric, skeleton and Merman mode in PoR
>Sisters mode was touchscreen shit
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>>324214054
a decent metroidvania masquerading as an H-game, and doing a pretty damned good job of being both.
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>>324219526
AAAAAHHHHHHH I WANT ANOTHER CASTLEVANIA GODDAMN IT

FUCKING MERCURY SHIT RUINED EVERYTHING
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>>324219639

Hmm, i fine with the anime style, but i like Kojima's bishies better
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>>324219639
The third game was Kojima style. God Infucking hate nips' obsession with cute and animu. This is so much shittier than pimp Soma.
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>>324219740
Lets by honest even if LoS2 was good konami would have still pulled the plug like everything else. Konami hates videogames now
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>>324219740
YOU WANT 'NOTHER CASTURRVANIA?

FUK U, HERE PACHINKO
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>>324219526
her art is too good for Konami
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>>324219526
So has Kojima ever used digital mediums? I'm pretty sure everything she does is on physical medium, and mostly oil paintings.
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Post yfw this nigga made a sequel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZm5oF-N9fY
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>>324196615
The version included in Dracula x chronicles on psp
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>>324219740
It's not like Castlevania was selling that great before LoS. If anything Judgement killed the series.
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>>324219858
Third game uses a different artist though, not Kojima.

it's the same artist from Suikoden Teirkreis, Masaki Hirooka. Still very capable artist though.
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>>324219920
>konami is holding her art for ransom because of an existing contract
She can't make any profit on her work for another five years or face a lawsuit. All her current shit is done for free because of it
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>>324195973

>legacy of the wizard
>meme game

I have literally never heard anybody hype that game for any reason, unless the falcomfags are off doing it in every tails thread. Even for the time it was confusing shit.

Did it just make your ass sore as a kid or something?
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>>324220114

Jesus Christ, why would you subject yourself to those terms?

These Japs don't fuck around in the board room, do they?
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>>324220140
>I have literally never heard anybody hype that game for any reason, unless the falcomfags are off doing it in every tails thread. Even for the time it was confusing shit.

I didn't even know other people knew about that game. I loved it as a kid and when I've tried to make threads about it a few years ago they went unnoticed.
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>>324220114
I remember when Konami was my favorite game maker. God, why are they doing this to their employees?
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AH, TIS THE MORNING OF MY REBUFF IN THE RESURRECTION OF CASTLEVANIA
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>>324220114
>>324219920
That's fucking tragic, not even character design for an anime studio or something? Or manga of her own?
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>>324220348
it was another time, when we were happy with Castlevania, Contra, Gradius, Mystical Ninja, Metal Gear. Their games could sell 100k copies and still have god tier sequels

If only we knew
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>>324220310

I think as a little kid, it was mainly because I didn't know anything else like it. Looking back, the only thing I still dig about it is the music. The first bgm especially is pretty catchy.

It's one of falcom's franchises though, so I thought maybe the trailsfaggots were yammering about it or something. Never seen anyone else do it, yeah.
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>>324220348
Capcom was always better. Though Konami was always nr. 2. I guess there's just no room in the industry for hardcore series like CV, Gradius and Contra.

>>324220618
MN was always hit and miss.
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>>324220379
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>>324220348
>>324220241
japan is one of the most capitalist countries on the planet. They always been cut throat as fuck just they can't hide it well now. You're talking about a nation where amusement parks can spring up in a summer then the investors jump ship after they make their profit littering japan with abandoned amusement parks and tourist attractions.
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>>324220451
She can make it for an anime or manga but it has to be pro bono like with bloodstained she can not get paid for the art she supplies to it because of her contract. She is still getting a salary from konami but it's really tragic she can't do anything while they make pachinko machines
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>>324220740
The PS1 game and the PS2 are bad, I know. But the Snes and N64 games are fun. Pretty hyped for the translation patch for the second game in the Snes
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>>324220742
MAG-NIFICENT!

BUT NOW, FELL MY UNBRIDLED WRATH!

HYRDAL STAR
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>>324220891
I got the gist of it. It's pretty fucked up, Ebisumaru is a girl. Like holy shit this almost explains things.
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>>324220086
also I think the way he colors and shades stand out the most. He does a lot of anime shit but was clearly able to pull this back for Order of Ecclesia
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>>324220379
D-D-D-DRACULA, THERE'S A BELMONT IN THE CASTLE
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>>324215452
You could fight a robotic Simon Belmont in Contra: Hard Corps.
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>>324209607
iconoclasts looks pretty great
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>>324221041
wait, what? did the localization team fucked us all this time?
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>>324221249
I think they retconned it so Omitsu could be Goemon's love interest. Maybe people took issue with him fucking his fat sumo-wrestling roommate.
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>>324221394
but Ebisu is too "bro" for Goemon. It wouldn't matter if is a girl or not and it wouldn't work anyway
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>>324188826
Have you tried atypical Metroidvania games like System Shock 1?
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>>324220140
>>324220310
>>324220641
Legacy of the Wizard doesn't get much attention due to Faxanadu being regarded as the better game.
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CHARLOTTE
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>>324219939
I love the barbarian look of the older Belmonts
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What are some good Metroidvanias on PC.
Ive emulated everything that can be emulated.
Played through Guacamelee and Axiom Verge, cant think of anything else to play.
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>>324222383

Environmental station alpha is good if you can handle the eyestrain graphics
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>Outland never gets any love

It's okay. I'm okay.
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I think Metroidvania is the stupid genre name
It's just a sidescroller. OH BUT YOU CAN EXPLORE SO IT'S A METROIDVANIA. Still looks and play like a sidescroller. We don't make the distinction between linear 3D platformers with stages or 3D platformers with an overworld, we just call them 3D platformer.
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>>324222383

Ori and the Blind Forest, if you haven't played it.
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>>324222632

I prefer the term Platform/Adventure though it's not like the community will come up with an actually good name for them.
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>>324222632

It's a side scrolling ARPG/platformer with specific level design elements and hallmarks, like the unpassable wall o doom that only the Holy Chain of Jesus Stuff can break, etc.

Callin them " sidescrolling platformers " is reductive as fuck.
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>>324222353
Y'know, I've always wondered, are the Belmonts German? Because there were no barbarians in romania.
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>>324209607
I really hope Bloodstained comes out this year, im cautiously optimistic.
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>>324222939
I wouldn't count on it.
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>>324210246
good_taste.jpg
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>>324209607
This year? Son, I still haven't been through Ori or Axiom verge.
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>>324221212

I'm really looking forward to this, but the creator said it wasn't going to have Metroid elements. It's going to be mostly linear.
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>>324188826
>tfw no castlevania
>tfw no metroid
What are some good metroidvanias made recently? I liked Axiom Verge.
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>>324210246

I never thought of Soul Reaver as a metroidvania before, but it's basically a 2D version of one.

Good taste, my nigga.
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>>324223118
You can skip AV, trust me on that one. Ori is worth giving a shot but bail after 20 minutes if you're not digging it.
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>>324222632
They have a specific set of level design attributes and gameplay facets that are unique to their genre enough to differentiate themselves from others in the larger, more general genre of platformers.

Comparing Mario and Metroid is like comparing Call of Duty and Deus Ex (on a purely gameplay basis, regardless of quality). Both are shooters, but I'd sooner call Deus Ex an RPG than an FPS (even though its both), even though shooting is the majority of the gameplay.
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>>324209607
There was some 2D sidescroller one that also might've been a roguelike? I saw it a couple years ago what happened to it? Had good spritework.
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>>324223163
People seemed to like Ori and The Blind Forest, havent played it myself though.

Personally I enjoyed Guacamelee and Dust: An Elysian Tale, even though they receive mixed criticism on this board.
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>>324223458
Dust has Deviant Art graphics and Guacamelee has a meme or two I think. I don't think anyone shits on their gameplay.
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>>324223141
So like Shantae? Please no. What about Owlboy?
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What are some metroidvanias I can emulate?

Workin' my way through Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission, then Super.
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>>324223557

Some Shantae games are more Metroid than others, I think as a series it counts.

I haven't heart anything about Owlboy in over a year.
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>>324223690

Why would you play Fusion first?
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>>324205951
not really
shantae is a linear game (unlike metroidvanias) that just makes you backtrack half of the game to seem longer
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>>324223794
He's asking for recommendations when ITT there was a tier list posted filling his request. The answer why he would play Fusion first is because he's a retard as evident by his terrible post.
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>>324223794
I have no idea.

I just had a craving to play it.
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>>324195154
Because otherwise you're not going to be playing many games at all. And how else are you filling the void in your empty meaningless life, if not with games?
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>>324223794
why play fusion at all?
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>>324224019
Did Adam tell you to? Have some dignity, woman.
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>>324223864
Yeah after playing Pirate's Curse I'm pretty much done with the series, because forced to do confusing puzzle fetchquests between shitty, short dungeons is lame.
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>>324209607
La Mulana 2
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>>324224070
I play an awful lot of games that are better than anything I've played before. It's all about branching out into new genres.
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>>324224206
Sounds like work. I prefer letting my nostalgia cover up the flaws new games have in genres I love.
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>>324224097
There are so many games I can play but I'm not authorized to play any!

Help! I'm such and incompetent killing machine!
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Was the first Mega Man Zero a metroidvania? What about ZX and ZXA?
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what are your ideas if you were making a metroidvania game?
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>>324224595
Make enemies that do different things.
Think of fun ways to combine them. Make physical damage not a win everything element for once.
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I'LL GET LAID WITH ANYONE IN SIGHT IF THAT MAKES YOU RECOGNIZE ME AS A GOOD METROIDVANIA
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>>324224595
you get stalked by a nemesis-like OP enemy the whole game, sort of like sa-x but with no terrible AI and not just in two or three SCRIPTED areas
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>>324224861
Sounds good to me. I like Shantae games quite a bit anyway.
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I love Castlemanias
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>>324224595
Focus on making the areas strictly different instead of just cave rock or tiling, so every area feels like the first time you enter Maridia.
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>>324216956
>Maze of Galious
Never played it but I heard good things about that game. The closest I've been to it was La-Mulana, and I didn't even play the original one, just the remake.

Amazing game, by the way.
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>>324223794
>>324224076
>Tfw I really like Fusion despite it being shit on so much
It's not my favorite, but I enjoyed it for what it was. It's a good Metroid game despite being linear, r-right guys?
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>>324225259
No. And by "no", I mean Hell No. It feels more like a fangame than metroid.
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>>324225259
I thought it was okay. I used to play it every other week before Zero Mission came out. I'd still rate it as one of the weaker Metroids but I thought it was okay.
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>>324225259
I enjoyed it a lot. Don't even care /v/ has to say about it.
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OP here. Can't believe this thread is still going! I didn't realize Metroidvania's were a big thing on /v/. Pic related just happened now on the Symphony of the Night!
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>>324224595
do more shit like axiom verge's weapons, where they alter the environment or do cool stuff

maybe not to a huge degree, but something other than straight upgrades to existing weapons, like metroid
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>>324225747
good luck anon

SOTN is one of those cases where a game is vastly overrated, but at the same time deserves a lot of the praise it gets, so i think youre in for a treat
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I dunno why, but Strider works well as a metroidvania. Fuck you, I liked it.
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Has anyone tried it?
How is it?
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>>324208874
>Shaman King: Master of Spirits 2
My fuckin' nigga.
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>>324226346
You think it's good until you discover you're only halfway through the game
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>>324220379
FUCKIN USELESS ASS WEREWOLF
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>>324214624
what the game?
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and why are they so few
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>>324227262
Anubis and the Buried Bone. It's a furry porn game that only has a demo and two sex scenes. The second boss is borderline impossible to beat. It's counter-intuitive to the control and physics scheme and requires such precision that no man who wants to fap can overcome.
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why does the word Metroidvania trigger /v/ so much?

Why is it always an instant derail every time it is used?
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>>324227593
because the /v/ wants to be triggered that's why
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>>324227593
Derail?
This thread's been mostly on topic.
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>>324226832
SHUT THE FUCK UP WEREWOLF, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU
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>>324226482
hard, I played a few hours but it was mostly linear, not sure if it opens up eventually
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>>324210837
Wow I guess all Zeldas are metroidvanias now.
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>>324227593
Back in the day we used to call them side scrollers, i don't know what the fuck this "metroidvania" is
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The Batman Arkham sorta got a sorta-metroidvania that was an epilogue to Arkham Origins. If you must play any version, play the HD version.
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>>324228125
Contra is a side scroller, but not like Metroid or Igavanias. Same with Megaman. Same with Zelda II. Same with Battletoads. Same with Mario. Squares, rectangles, etc.

Don't be dumb.
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>>324194412
hang yourself
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>>324228283
What the fuck is the difference?
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>>324228419
Hellooooo, stupid.
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>>324225259
Fusion being outright shit on is a recent phenomenon by memesters, ignore it. It's a fine game, even if it's weaker than some
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Is there a castlevania with random loot (better version of (your favorie weapon) ) and random levels? I need something I can get gud in with longlivety
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>>324229009
le rogue legacy
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>>324229009
Well, Rouge Legacy is kinda like that.
I found it got pretty dull before the ending though.
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>>324228419
>what's the difference between Battletoads and Castlevania: Portrait of ruin i mean they're basically the same game.
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>>324229041
>>324229052

Its only swords, I want axe
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>>324228156
I played it on PC and it was pretty good. Supposedly some of the devs of Metroid Prime worked on it.

Would recommend.
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>>324197060

No one will ever recommend the PSP version because "MUH DIE MONSTER"
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>>324188826
Go download Another Metroid 2 Remake (aka AM2R). Its a fan remake of Metroid 2 to mimic Zero Mission. Its a short, unfinished game around 3 hours tops
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>>324189596
release order you fucking casuals.
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>>324222383
Aquaria, Valdis Story, Ori and the Blind Forest, Unepic, Dust (if you're okay with mildly DA-tier content).

Not strictly Metroidvanias, but similar games
Darksiders II
VVVVVV
Wings of Vi
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>>324219316
>>324219169
>>324226354

Well it is taking inspiration from the NES game.

>>324219316

My fucking ass it is. Strider 2014 doesn't get enough credit.
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>>324191852
Guacamelee is fucking great.

Also it's threads like these that make me think that we really need a Metroidvania General on /vg/ already.
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>>324229872
>Enjoyed what I played of Guacamelee
>Can't reach the first boss

What am I doing wrong?
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I just want one with music as good as SoTN. I don't pretend SoTN was the be all end all game but that music is top notch.
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The 4 Metroidvania games that are rarely mentioned

Strider NES
Strider 2014
Spider-Man: Web of Shadows
Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions
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>>324230036
>Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions
I heard the DS version was pretty badass.
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>>324208874
>demons crest
this game doesn't get the amount of love it deserve.
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>>324230017
Portrait of Ruin
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>>324230102

Yeah, that list is strictly referring to the DS versions.

Nobody talks about them. Hell, most people aren't even aware they're Metroidvanias. They're actually pretty fucking fun.
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>>324225747
>Metroidvania in /v/
Only those that has the same style as SotN I think.
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>>324230036
Make it five.
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>>324229956
Wow, I did the same, lel.

Do the rising uppercut move on the red block in the long hallway in the first temple iirc
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>>324231030
I've always wanted to play this, b/c it's literally EXACTLY the game that I asked for. Feel bad that I didn't buy it at release and still haven't played it yet actually. Wayforward doesn't deserve my bullshit man.
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