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Serious question, but is Rosalina an actual Mary Sue? >Godlike

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Serious question, but is Rosalina an actual Mary Sue?

>Godlike figure in the MArioverse
>Fully fleshed out, tragic back story
>Superhuman size and athleticism in Tennis and Golf, one of the fastest racers in Mario Kart
>Top tier in Smash 4 with very rare nerfs
>One of the rarest amibo despite coming from Nintendo's flagship series
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She's portrayed more as a mysterious goddess type of character than a hero, so I don't think so.
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>>324165095

>Gets toes after puberty

Feet are not sexual they said
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>>324165095
Look up what a Mary Sue is
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>>324165095
Why don't more artist draw teenage Rosalina?
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I wonder how the lumas handled her first period ha ha
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>we could have had loli Rosalina in Mario Kart
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>>324165537

I have and Rosalina looks like it
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>>324165095
Damn we need more loli Rosalina
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>>324165605
Aisle 8A in space
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>>324165751
That would have required more work than they wanted to do, plus for them to acknowledge the storybook which Miyamoto hated.
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>>324166010
I honestly can't wait for Miyamoto to die
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>>324165095
I don't see how having a tragic backstory helps make her a Mary Sue

Speaking of Mario Kart, does /v/ not do MK8 weekends anymore?
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>>324166181
>I don't see how having a tragic backstory helps make her a Mary Sue

Considering how out of character the material was for Mario

>Speaking of Mario Kart, does /v/ not do MK8 weekends anymore?

They keep doing Tr4sh for reasons I'll never understand.
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>>324165594

Because our dicks couldn't take it.
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>>324166368
>ignoring glorious racing for Smash
I don't understand why anyone would ever do this
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>>324166285

i wanna tickle them with my dick
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>>324166073

I don't wish death on him, though I do want him to lose all power within Nintendo. He did some great things back in the day, but now he's an out of touch old man with power (within Nintendo anyway), and that's just not a good thing.
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>>324166727
>though I do want him to lose all power within Nintendo.

Dying is the only way that will happen
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>>324165605
It is interesting how she handled those vulnerable and awkward teenage years alone with a bunch of child-like star people. She must be really screwed up in the head.
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>>324165950
Made me lol right before work. Thanks, I needed that.
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>>324167092

No boys or teenage drama to get worked up over, she probably had no trouble with it just like a sheltered princess.
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A Mary Sue is a perfect and flawless character who everybody adores (except the characters who are obviously evil) and never does anything wrong, and who is often a self-insert of a writer.

Ignoring the self-insert part, this applies to basically every Mario character, or none of them, since they are all so flat and character-lacking (in the mainline Mario games anyway) that they don't have flaws.

Anon, just because you dislike Rosalina doesn't mean she is a Mary Sue.
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Damn i didnt know about Rosalina's storybook.
It's the kind of shit I'd read to my kids.
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>>324167936
I'm not sure how you can play Galaxy without at least seeing the first chapter
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>>324168107
Never played Galaxy, i was thinking about grabbing a cheap wii and the game though
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>>324168219
Go for it, you won't regret it
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>>324167936
You want your kids to cry themselves to sleep?
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>>324168257
It has its sad moments but i find it pretty cute and heartwarming overall.
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>>324168429
I can't make it through with a straight face. Even the music bothers me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6bjwqAIP9w
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>>324165095
Are you really insisting on doing character analysis on a Mario character of all things? Theyre meant to merely represent different features in the gameplay or act as simple player avatars in the spin-offs. In Galaxy Rosalina acts as an expositionary device that happens to have a little bit of extra backstory because of a developer who wanted to put it in the game.
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>>324165095

That's not what a Mary Sue is.

Rosalina's just a powerful character.

A Mary Sue is a character who is Right by virtue of the author saying so, and who cannot lose because the author decides so. A Mary Sue in a Mario game would be able to have both Mario and Bowser forget about Peach, effortlessly beat the game in an instant, and make everyone recognise her as the legitimate Best Person In the World... unless the ones who commit the hateful crime of not agreeing with her, without any character flaws.
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I always wanted a series of storybooks for the other Mario characters, possibly with their own printed hardback versions. I think this would be profitable enough to do, plus serve as marketing for the games.
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>>324168497
Yeah i get what you are saying, its kinda sad in some parts but the end left me pretty satisfied
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How do you think Rosalina reacted when see saw Peach for the first time, and noticed she looks like a younger version of her mother?
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>>324170013
>tfw we'll never have this
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She's not a Mary Sue.

She's just a canon goddess figure yes but a god character =/= a Mary Sue
The superhuman size and such is just traits of her, not traits that are portrayed in a away that she's better than everyone (otherwise, she can't lose even in 3D world by a Goomba or just lose in general) Plus doesn't in kart 8, she shares like the same stats with a few heavyweights now?

Also top tier in Smash was more of an unforeseen consequence. They made her with having a unique gimmick in mind but didn't actually had the full logistics of a puppet character and her properties would have in the tourney scene (hell Sakurai still hates tourney shits anyway, of course he wouldn't give a shit to care about how things work competiviely) And it seems like they're not fixing her because in order to fix the roots of most of her issues, especially with luma, she would need a lot more rework to her system than just changing some values here and there, so I guess they couldn't be bothered to without running her into the ground.

Also the amiibo thing is just coincidental as hell. They only had like one small restock of her and before that Nintendo was still stupid with their Amiibo stocks of anyone that wasn't the commons. She just haven't had a proper restock, just like Palutena, Pit, Robin, Lucina, Meta Knight, etc. They still need to remove her exclusive status like they did with Shulk and Lucario for her to finally be more readily availible
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>>324165095

God she is so pretty. I want a Rosalina game.
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>>324171202
What would happen in a Rosalina game?
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>>324171073
>Also the amiibo thing is just coincidental as hell. They only had like one small restock of her and before that Nintendo was still stupid with their Amiibo stocks of anyone that wasn't the commons. She just haven't had a proper restock, just like Palutena, Pit, Robin, Lucina, Meta Knight, etc. They still need to remove her exclusive status like they did with Shulk and Lucario for her to finally be more readily availible

How is it coincidental? They deliberately underproduced her compared to every other Mario amiibo
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>>324171780
She raise lumas.
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>>324171780
Chao Garden ripoff with Lumas
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>>324171880

look at every pokemon that wasn't Pikachu. They were rare as hell, even Charizard and Lucario for being as popular as they were supposed to be.

it seems like she was underproduced because she's just not at a high priority compared to Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, who are the staples of the series. Bowser Jr. and Dr. Mario didn't have this much of an issue because they finally fixed their shit with handing out stock by then.
She's just due for a proper restock is all nowadays
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>>324172334
>look at every pokemon that wasn't Pikachu. They were rare as hell, even Charizard and Lucario for being as popular as they were supposed to be.

Pokemon isn't the mainstream force it used to be.
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>>324172457

It's still considered one of the staples of Nintendo, just below Mario and Zelda tho. And Pikachu's the face of pokemon to the point even normies can point him out, even more so than Charizard.
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I want another Mario Galaxy game where Rosalina is corrupted and is the final boss.
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>>324173126
Do we get to kill her?
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>>324165095
I want to fuck the Rosalina on the right
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>>324173408
no we corrupt her thru love and dump peach
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>>324173479
Don't you mean the left? The one on the right is loli Rosalina.
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>>324173759
I know what I said anon
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>>324168003
Miss Rosalina is lewd not wearing panties.
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>>324175059
They only get in the way
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>>324168003
I demand more Rosalina upskirts.
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>Compile massive Rosalina folder on laptop
>Laptop in shitty condition
>Try to create backup on flash drive
>USB ports won't respond
>Will probably lose everything when this piece of shit finally dies

FUCK
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>>324175995
I want to help her stretch!
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>>324170727
I care more about having another good Paper Mario game at all, rather than having a paper Rosalina.

Which is also never going to happen
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>>324165816
She doesn't at all.

If she was a Mary Sue she would solve all the problems and be better than anyone at doing it instead of asking help for Mario.

That's what a Mary sue is.
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>>324176745
>If she was a Mary Sue she would solve all the problems and be better than anyone at doing it instead of asking help for Mario.

She does that at the end of Galaxy
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>>324176863
You mean all the lumas that sacrificed themselves saved everyone, including Rosalina. All she did that game was stand on her observatory, and waited for Mario to do all the work.
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>>324176417
You're going to get Paper Rosalina before you get a good Paper Mario.
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>>324176361
Upload it to google drive or drop box or some shit.
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>>324175812
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>>324176863
Helping the heroes after he has defeated the big bad is hardly the same as "solving all the problem".

She is at best like the Metroid at the end of Super Metroid.
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>>324165095

I want to copulate with Miss Rosalina!
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>>324179994
>Patreon
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>>324171976
I'd buy a wii u for that
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>>324165605
Underrated post
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>>324184293
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Her breasts are TOO BIG please reduce them.
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>>324184434

>breasts
>too big
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Honestly you could accuse Princess Peach of being a Mary Sue instead. Rosalina is just a mysterious and quiet character whose ambiguously powerful
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in a game with a story like mario's I couldn't even begin to imagine why anyone would care
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>>324185389
I'm seriously thinking on buying the Mario & Sonic @ Rio 2016 just for the fap material of Peach, Rosalina and Amy.
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>>324165095
Why does nobody understand that Mary Sues have to be the main character? That's the most important characteristic.
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>>324181569
I want Rosalina to sit on my face and step on me.
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>>324186239
Wii U footage when?

>>324186553
Not really. Itachi Uchiha in Naruto comes to mind
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>>324185389
Shouldn't floating be considered cheating in Tennis?
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What's Rosinas footpussy feel like?
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>>324189681
Like velt. Her feet are incredibly soft since she never walks
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>>324188209
>Itachi
But is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
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>>324189975
Itachi was much more sue-ish. Madara had to work for a lot of his shit, but Itachi was just born into enlightenment
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>>324176417
Why do they do this? Do they play spin the bottle and on which former high quaility franchise it lands, will only get mediocre cash grab sequels from now on? They did the same with Yoshi too.
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>>324191160
I thought Wooly World was alright
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>>324165095
just came here to say that the reason she is so huge is because she grew up in a low-g environment so she has lower bone density and elongated limbs
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>>324191881
She shouldn't be as strong or fast as she is though
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>>324192006
thats true, but magic and shit
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>>324192302
That's weird to me. Usually magic users pioritize defense and technique over raw power.
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>>324192420
I meant more like
> its_magic_I_dont_gotta_explain_shit.jpeg
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>>324192754
I know that, but I'm more curious about Camelot's decision
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>>324192302
>>324192754
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Rosalina is sobbing uncontrollably after telling you that her mother asleep under the tree on the hill. How do you comfort her?
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>>324193795
with my peenus weanus, of course
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>>324165095

God is a mary sue.
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>>324191160
Beats me. It seems like it would be obvious that just making another game like Paper Mario or TTYD would make money while also pleasing fans, I even thought Super Paper Mario was alright. But now we just get stuff like Sticker Star and Mario & Luigi featuring paper Mario, with none of the charm that the original games had.

To be a fan of Nintendo is to see your favorite series slowly fade into obsolescence.
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>>324194069
God isn't fictional though.
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>>324185171
In fact, thanks to the Star Children moniker, the main cast are all textbook Mary Sues and Gary Stus.

Rosalina's power source comes from the Lumas, and the Observatory's is the Grand Stars, so her power can be removed from her or denied her. That makes her not a Mary Sue.

>but she's pretty much the best at all of the spinoffs
Which may have more to do with her being a new character in retreads of older games. May. It could be intentional, but it just doesn't seem likely.
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>>324194127
I seriously blame Miyamoto. Ever since he flipped out over Rosalina's storybook something has been off with the entire franchise
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>>324165095
is that you, mariotehplumber?
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>>324194779
And gimmicking up games, or making games practically no one wanted (Wii Music, to an extent Pikmin, certainly the mini movies).

It's time for him to retire.
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>>324194931
No, I'm an actual Rosalina fan, but the thought slipped in to my head when I considered the things mentioned above. It's completely baffling to me how fucking rare her amiibo is even with the Target exclusive shit.
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>>324165095
>amibo
>rare

How the fuck are these things rare beyond possibly an artificial rarity made by Nintendo. Is Nintendo treating Amibo like DeBeer's treats diamonds?
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>>324195174
A lot of the rarer amiibos are starting to show up, but Rosie is still AWOL
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>>324195417

>he didn't get Rosa and Jiggly when they were on Target.com for a whole day
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>OP claims of Rosalina being a mary sue
>People btfo him out
>No responses

So.. Rosalina thread?
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>>324195108
mariotehplumber did buy a lot of them so nobody else could get the "hentai characters". But that isn't enough to explain the shortage. I think Miyamoto hates her.
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>>324195747
No, I got mine from Amazon France at launch

>>324195885
see
>>324195108
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>>324196285
I feel the opposite. I think somebody at Nintendo holds her in such high esteem they don't want to see her amiibo become run of the mill
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>>324195747
>no sauce

fix this
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>>324196735

&safe=off
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>>324196965
What site? Any direct link? Perhaps an artist?
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>>324197258
>>324196965

Add it to the end of your google search link.
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The fuck? Mario characters don't get writing. they just are, all of them are fucking mary sue
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>>324196285
He's actually claiming it was all an act now
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Bumping
Dont want this to die like Rosalina's mom
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>>324196965
Nigga i know thats X-teal2 but i can't find that image anywhere be a bro, and give me a link pls
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>>324165328
That's actually how it was in the storybook's illustrations, but for Rosalina's teenage years the artist had complete freedom.

>>324165751
The last installment had an infant version of Rosalina instead, and they didn't even bother to give her the correct hair color.
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>>324200240
I'd dump but as OP I can't bump the thread.
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>>324185389
>>324184820
Shame Ultra Smash was shit because damn it has some of the best Mario models ever. Really hope someone eventually rips them.
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>>324201158
Same
Too bad im on vacation with no access to my Rosalina folder
I just want to play some games ;_;
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>>324201224
The tennis itself is better than ever. It just lacks content
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>>324196285
He bought up like 100 of canadian stock. Literally no dent. She's available on amiami for retail.
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>>324201224
If there's one really good thing that came out of Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, it's that it showed Camelot prefers quality over quantity. They would rather have a polished, working game at launch than one that has more content but is messy and perhaps even broken. I really hope they're not rushed like they were last time with their next game. They aren't the main ones to blame for Ultra Smash being as mediocre as it is.
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>>324202403
>They aren't the main ones to blame for Ultra Smash being as mediocre as it is.
then who is? they didn't fuck up mario golf nearly this badly.
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>>324201224
I think these >>324184403
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>>324178668
were ripped from that game.
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>>324202874
Nintendo rushed it out because of Zelda and Star Fox being delayed
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>>324165095
You're abusing Marysue
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>>324177627

Only thing that needs to happen so that Paper Mario can get good again is for the FIre Emblem series to get unpopular and fail. Intelligent Systems can only make a good Paper Mario if they aren't tied up with making the next FE game all the time.
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>>324165594
Because as a teenager she was as tall as Peach.
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>>324181569
Daisy confirmed for midget.
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>>324203770
This, and in addition they had to work on hardware that they weren't used to (they hadn't made a new console game since 2004 if I'm correct).
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>>324165095
I hate to quote tvtropes but the term they use is "Creator's Pet"
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>>324204187
Is Koizumi that influential?
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>>324204294
well, for 3d world they asked him if rosie could be in it and he said yes.
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>>324165095
I don't think Mario is the kind of series that you can apply typical literary criticisms to. None of the characters are made to fill any deep or storytelling-impacting role.

Now post more cute or sexy Rosetta.
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>>324205568
Okay
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