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> now shipping July 2016 Why didn't you order?

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> now shipping July 2016

Why didn't you order?
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>People don't care enough to even troll about the oculus

That's rough.
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FIVE
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SIX
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>>324132682
HUNDRED
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>>324132209
Because they lied about the price, I don't want facebook connected with my hardware in any way, I don't want to give money to facebook in any way, I don't give a shit about vr technology and my pc is too outdated to make use of it anyway.
Oh, and 599 us dollarydoos
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personally i'm waiting for the vive
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>EVE: valkyrie
does it come with excel too?
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>>324132209
I did, looking forward to March.
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>>324132764
NINETY
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i dont buy overpriced gimmick bullshit
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why would you buy it without trying it first?
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>>324132994
NINE
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Do you want to connect to Facebook?
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>>324133045
US
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>>324132209
They're fucking themselves over with that price.
It's never ever going mainstream at that entry price, which means no real games. Fuck 'em.
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>>324133130
DOLLAS
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This product, and the retards shilling it really need to fuck off already.
saged, hidden.
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>>324133070

yes
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>>324133070

Not sure how that is relevant, friendo.
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>>324133253

somebody is really mad
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>>324133153

Just like the PS3, right?
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>>324132209
Waiting for the waifu simulators to become more fleshed out. I will give it like 2 years.
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>>324132209
I am too poor to early adopt. Generally it's great though that the Oculus has generated this much interest. VR can only become cheaper from here on so whatever, I can wait until Christmas or maybe the Vive will actually and, I think this is a pipe-dream, be cheaper than the Oculus.
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>>324133410
the PS3 had an established fanbase
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>>324133307
>>324133342
>Anon played Waifulolisimulator for 5 minutes.
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>>324133483

Virtual reality already has an established fanbase though.
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>>324133549

>sex is bad m'kay
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i was gonna order it the second pre orders went up but i didnt have enough money because i had to pay for gyno surgery which was like $5k
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>>324133585
of who? people who played demos in some expo?
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>>324133659

You did know that the money would not be taken until your order shipped right?
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>>324133410
Did you forget how much of a massive flop the PS3 was during its early years, how Sony had to do some hardcore damage control to get the price down to a reasonable figure, only started having decent game releases several years into its lifespan, and never actually turned a profit?

"PS3 has no games" was a meme for a reason. That only changed during the second half of its lifespan.
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>>324133751

>massive flop the PS3 was during its early years
>early years

Now you're getting it.
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because a full VR system is going on preorder next month and shipping in march
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>>324133751
so, it was exactly like the bloodbornestation?
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>>324133872

>all these paid reviews and prizes
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>>324132798
>Because they lied about the price
They didn't. I mean, it's still expensive but they always told that the final commercial build would be more expensive than the DK models. They said they were aiming for $350 for the DK but that the released version would likely be "more expensive" since better component.

Granted, they didn't precise what they meant by "more expensive" and nobody could guess it would be "nearly twice as much" but still.
>I don't want facebook connected with my hardware in any way
Are you just spouting retarded shit or do you have a source?
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Because I'm not spending 599€ on a gimmick that people will get bored with within a week once the initial awe wears off and they realize it's not as fun and immersive as they thought it would be.
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>>324132209
Because VR is a gigantic waste of devs and publishers time, money, and resources. It's another stupid and pointless gimmick that will be tossed to the curb the second the proverbial udders have been milked completely dry and the VR fad dies and fades into obscurity like with 3D and motion controls before it
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>>324134079

you will feel very dumb in the future you know?
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reminder that you're a fucking moron if you think VR is just a gimmick or solely a toy for videogames at this point

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-13/goldman-sachs-has-four-charts-showing-the-huge-potential-in-virtual-and-augmented-reality

https://www.similarweb.com/blog/chief-virtual-reality-officer-whats-your-vr-strategy
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>>324134059

Spoken like someone who never tried proper VR.
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>>324134762
hurr guise, dis vee-ar is really da sheit!
its liek a ravolushun an sheit!
if ya don belief me, yo a dork!
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Even if this crop of "VR" were to be indeed successful, the technology has no future as far as videogames go.
Motion controls were a much bigger game changer and they went nowhere.
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>>324135421

are you really disagreeing with the bean counters at Goldman Sachs that have spent years researching the subject and crunching the numbers?

or NASA and the military who have been using $100-200k VR headsets that are complete shit compared to the Rift or Vive for years?
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>>324135950
>goldman
do you want me to call /pol/?
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>>324136478

oh, so youre just a meming idiot nvm
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>>324136783
>buys obvious corporate shilling
>falls for the same ruse that was done 10 years ago
>calls others idiots
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>>324132209
I'm trying to minimize the money I directly give to Kike Fuckerburg.
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>>324137585

sick memes brah
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>>324137731
indeed, VR is a meme, just like motion capture was a meme
>the meme was so strong all consoles had motion capture
>almost no games of relevance made use of those controls
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>>324137716

Zuckerberg is an atheist philanthropist, not your stereotype kike
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>>324137906

sure thing dude

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/nasa-shows-the-world-its-20-year-vr-experiment-to-train-astronauts/

NASA, the militarys of the world and countless industries have been using VR just for shits and giggles
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>>324132209
I have a rich friend who pre-ordered one, and his computer can actually run it compared to mine.
He's incredibly hyped about it, and he feels there's enough games/betas and whatever to keep him interested and justify the price. From the sounds of it, I really think VR could kick off pretty well. If not, it wouldn't bother me.
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>>324138261
>created facebook
>one of the worst life sucking abominations of history
>made to suck money out of people
>phillantropist
>not stereotype kike

youre like the best goy ever
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>>324134059
>599€
More like 740€
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>>324138454
so fucking what?
VR has uses for training, but for entertainment?
Too cumbersome

The good thing is that blood sucking kike will lose money from this
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>>324138657

you'll be using VR within 5 years and i want you to remember these posts so you can realize how much of troglodyte dipshit you are
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>>324138725
>you'll be using VR
yeah sure, and I have a 3D TV as well
and a notebook with touch screen
or voice commands
or gesture commands
what other shitty gimmicks came out during the last decade?
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>>324138915
The Wii Balance Board?
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>>324138725
yeah maybe when VR is actually at a point where it actually seems like VR and not a monitor strapped to your face
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>VR all priced above 599
Baby PLEASE KILL MEEEEE
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Anyone who complains about how games these days are stale and boring and then shits all over VR tech is a fucking retard. This is the first technology in a while that will actually make games more interesting, immersive and enjoyable. It might actually prompt game devs to think about game features other than fancy graphics and generic features we're sick of seeing.
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>>324139102

that's what you get with the final rift, you don't see any screen or pixels
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>>324132209
>Xbox one controller
this is fake, right?
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>>324139224
Nah, Xbone is pretty good controller if you play Nepnep games.
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>>324139319
Yeah, it is, but it's a pretty bad deal if you already have a good controller, or even an Xbone controller.
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>>324132209
Because I'm poor.
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What hardware manufacturer did Valve promote?
I'll only get a VR to play Half Life 3 and its mods.
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>>324139184
>literally a graphics peripheral
>might actually prompt game devs to think about game features other than fancy graphics

>generic features we're sick of seeing.
you will get a hundred shooters, a thousand porn games (which will be reskins of each other), another hundred of "so original" games with really shitty concepts and even worse controls, another hundred racing games, etc
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>>324138915
>>324139102

>i have never tried VR

how are you fucking retards going to feel when 2nd gen VR systems have foveated rendering and completely shit on anything possible on a 2D screen graphically?
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>>324133549
>5 minutes
Joke is on you I can do faster than that.
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>>324139824
hey, how much do they pay you to shill?
any amount is too much because suck at shilling

just post pictures of cute loli waifus, thats what the splatoon shills did
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>Built-in headphones

This is a blatant sign of who they are marketing towards:

The Tech-illiterate.
They genuinely want the Apple audience and people who are just to stupid to swap out computer components.

This this will literally just be a Facebook-Machine.

If you bought this, you are just irredeemably beyond stupid. Don't let anyone tell you different.
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>forced headphones
>forced xbox controller
>forced game
I bet the price would be under 500$ if you were to opt these out.
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>>324139824
>how are you going to feel when second gen VR is really good?
pretty good, I'll probably buy it with all the money I saved not buying 1st gen VR
>>324140072
>supposed to be the height of immersion
>have to use shitty integrated headphones instead of your own, or your surround sound speaker setup
t-thanks I guess
>>324140186
>have to get Xbone controller
>already have a good, perfectly functional controller
>prefer keyboard anyway
I can't wait to listen to my good quality speakers, muffled through muted headphones, while my new Xbone controller gathers dust, along with the shitty bundled games that I don't want to play.
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>>324140947
you dont want to play spreadsheets in space?
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>>324140947
Speakers don't work well for accurately simulating 3D audio you dolt
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>>324140072
>you are just irredeemably beyond stupid
>facebook-machine

I dunno, anon. You sound kinda stupid to me.
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I need to upgrade my PC first before I even consider it.

Still rocking the i5 3570k and a 7950
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>>324141719

just update the GPU and overclock the CPU
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A morgage payment
A better PC
Fuck, I can even get a cheap but reliable car through the auctions for that price and flip it for $1000.
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>>324133194
It's not a combo if it gets interrupted.
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>>324133946
>they're only paid if I don't agree with them
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>>324140039

who do you think "they" is?

VR and foveated rendering arent tied to any one company dumdum

and they ARE the future whether you think so or not
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>>324141831
>want VR for them drivan gaems
>but when tax and shipping comes into it I can just buy an actual fucking car instead
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>>324132209
the price is crazy
getting that though would mean finally living in anime
fuck
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>>324142494
>anime
>3d
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>he's not getting a vive
Enjoy your no controllers, shit roomscale, and wired basestations that means you have to have a usb cable trailing across the other side of your room.
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>>324138454
I guess orbiting stations and Mars rovers are the next big industries since NASA is using them.
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>>324139824
>$599 USD
>plus $1200 USD for a PC good enough to run it
>and a 6 month waiting list
The whole "you haven't tried it" is the most insipid argument yet.
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Cause I don't buy dead on arrival tech.
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>>324133981
>but still

But still what? The price is absurd and came from nowhere, they could at least have warned people shit was getting almost twice as expensive (europe) as the figures they've mentioned before.
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>>324142942

it's true though, if you havent tried a piece of technology how can you possible have an accurate opinion of it? the price is irrelevant

it comes across as pure poorfag saltiness
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>>324132209
That's a lot of money for a poorly functioning gimmick that doesn't even have much support. People keep talking about how they'll have "super epic waifu sim sex xddd", but those retards don't know a single fucking thing about h-games. H-games are niche, the audience for h-games aren't exactly the biggest spenders, the people that make h-games aren't exactly rolling in money. It's just not feasible that they'd start making a ton of great games for some overpriced American gimmick; if they're lucky they'll get one or two doujin games with shit clumsy character models, or maybe some of the more mainstream games like AA with oculus support as an afterthought, but they're not going to get anything great or fully featured. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to invest into VR right now, maybe I'll consider it in a few years when some better alternatives release and it's affordable because then, and only then, will VR start to get some games worthy of playing.
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>>324143795
Price is completely relevant. I wont throw away 1800 dollars just to see if something is good enough. Your point would have some kind of hold if they had easily accessible display demos at the very least, but the only way to ever get a shot at even trying that thing out is at closed-to-the-public trade shows. Meanwhile, for the price of the Rift, I can get an ultra high end monitor that does not require high end hardware and works with literally every single piece of software ever made. There are too many better options for that price. Also, saying that the price is nothing isn't a sign of wealth, it's a sign of a conspicuous consumer, and they are not actually very wealthy, just good at racking up credit card debt. Or that you have mommy's credit card.
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>>324144221

>Teslas are shitty gimmicks because I've never driven one because they cost too much

price is irrelevant. are you seriously arguing that someone can know whether VR is good or not because it's expensive?
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do they charge you when it ships, or do they charge you now?

wanted to wait and see how the htc one compares in price.
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>>324144407

when it ships
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>>324144367
>are you seriously arguing that someone can know whether VR is good or not because it's expensive?
You completely missed the point. My point is that it's an idiotic gamble to wait 6 months, pay 600 dollars, or more if your PC can't run it, just to see if it's good.
Also, Teslas and Oculus don't compare. Tesla offered the first mass scale electric car that actually looked good, had a good range, and offsetted the high fuel prices of the time. A Model S is actually useful. So what does the Oculus offer?
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>>324132209

Waiting on the vive, nigger of mine.
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>>324145086
>So what does the Oculus offer?
porn
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>>324139549
>What hardware manufacturer did Valve promote?


This, someone answer? What is the official Valve approved VR manufacturer?
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I hate to say it, but they've been trying to make VR succeed since the early 90s. Many people over the age of 18 should be able to remember the setups they had in malls where you would pay $5 to play a few minutes of what was essentially like a Wii controller with a trigger to shoot a gun and a button at your thumb to walk forward. You would look around with the goggles... Never went anywhere.

In the mid-90s, they tried VR headsets for PCs that let you look around while playing FPSes... Never went anywhere.

The 2000s went by without a mention of VR, probably to make people forget it's been tried before. Judging by how people are treating the OR and AR as something new that we'll all be using in the next few years, I'm probably correct in saying this.

I say, the smart thing to do is wait. More than likely, the hype'll die down, and early adopters will be stuck with $700 glasses anyone else would find at Goodwill for $20. If it does go anywhere this time, then there will be plenty companies who'll make their own glasses, and this'll drive the price down.
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>>324139549
>>324146717

gee i wonder how hard it would be to find that information?
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>>324147004
>portal listed before half life
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>>324146821

your view is still too simplistic
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>>324146821

>pretending like new technology hasnt been invented or old technology hasn't been improved in 20 years
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>>324146821
>the automobile will never replace the horse, they are too noisy and expensive
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>>324146821
There is a fair bit of difference between a piece of hardware which used either extremely simplistic, low resolution LCDs or CRT display versus a relatively high resolution, high framerate, low latency OLED. You can't really compare it to the older iterations on the basis that the technology back then was too primitive to manage a sense of presence.
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>>324147456
And in what way would the technology be improved, besides better graphics? Unless you were in a large field, you couldn't physically walk around the simulation, meaning you would have to sit or stand still while pressing buttons to move. Unless you had electrodes covering your body, you couldn't feel anything from the simulation. The immersive quality is lacking, and the experience won't be any different than it was back in the 90s, save for prettier graphic models.
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>>324148680

you're clueless
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>>324148680
>Save for prettier models
That has nothing to do with VR, that's based around the games themselves. The VR technology is very different now to what it used to be - even if you play an ancient PS1 era VR demo on newer kit, it's going to look and play substantially better than using the old kit.
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>>324132209
because it's five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.
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>>324148680
The main things are latency, field of view and ergonomics. Low tracking latency and monitors with high refresh rates and low persistence mean that you can actually do head tracking right, without tracking latency or judder. High field of view because of small, high-resolution screens should be obvious. The fact that all these components are a lot smaller and lighter than the shitty parts they had back then also mean that your headset is a lot more comfortable to actually wear.
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Vendors were quick to write off 3D when they finally realized that consumers weren't willing to pay a premium for a lackluster experience.

The Occulus looks like VFX-1: Electric Boogaloo with nicer screens and setup, but with a lot of the issues that plagued the last attempt:
-Requires special support from vidya
-Requires upper end hardware
-Controls still leave much to be desired
-High cost of entry
Head tracking and a bunch of the other secondary technologies were already mature in the 90's.

I'm going to give it at least a year after release before dropping any dosh.

AR actually looks promising, but hardware isn't ready for consumers yet.
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>>324140947
>I can't wait to listen to my good quality speakers
>speakers
>for VR
You're a fucking moron and part of the reason they bundled the headphones in the first place: to make people not use their goddamn speakers.
Also, you can remove the headphones if you're gonna insist on using your own.
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>>324150695

>The Occulus

If you can't even get this right your opinion goes straight into the trash.
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