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What is Avellone's beef with Brian Fargo? Did something happen?
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What part of that picture imply there's a beef? Or do you think "tips hat" was actually meant as an offense? Not everything in the world is revolved around 4chan memes.
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>>324122523
The only one that Avellone is mad at is Sawyer, hence why he quit Obsidian because he got pissed off people changed and cut his writing.
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>>324122654
What a child
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in reality, tipping your hat is showing respect for someone.

not like here where everything is coated in 5 layers of irony.
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>>324122675
Only other creatives can understand desu

Why are we pretending Obsidian is going places anyway
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>>324122675
His content wasn't balanced enough.
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>>324122621
>his life doesn't revolve around 4chan memes

gb2 reddit
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>>324122675
>child
>Being upset that a worse writer not only removes 2 of your planned 4 companions, but also throws all your writing for the main content of the game out because he'd rather include his Feather Special Snowflake Turbo Niggeress that also has a Cloaka

Fuck you
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>>324122523
>so what's this game they're talking about, mite be interesting?
>An episodic single-player computer RPG inspired by the classics of the late 90s, set in a world fusing dark fantasy and dieselpunk.
>episodic
wake me up when all the episodes are out then
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>>324122875

What.
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>>324122875
Don't forget that she's also a Super Duper Paladin and her name is literally Palagina
PALADIN AND VAGINA, WOW SO CLEVER, BRAVO SAWYER
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>>324122523
>a literally who tries to attention whore on /v/

I remember when this place used to have mods
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>>324122927
Avellone was supposed to write 4 companions for the game and chunk of main story.
Sawyer cut out 2 of Avellone's 4 companions and cut out Avellone's main story writng entirely.
He then proceeded to greatly cut the dialogue of the remaining 2 companions because Avellone's companions had so much writing they made others look like garbage in comparison.
Guess what, despite all the cuts those 2 companions STILL have the most dialogue and are the most intersting in the game.
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>>324122941
>not knowing who MCA is

How are you enjoying your first day on /v/?
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>>324123012
>not knowing what bait is

How are you enjoying your first day on /v/?
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>>324123009

Thanks. Care to enlighten me on which companions though? I'm not too familiar with Avellone's work.
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>>324122882
>"all episodes" packages start from $200
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>>324123009
>first thing you read once you encounter Grieving Mother is childbirth in all its details

Made me want to throw up. Otherwise, well written character.
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>>324123062
Durance and Grieving Mother are his in the final game.
He was also making two more, a monk and a female cleric/warrior. The former got cut but added in the expansion but with completely new writing by Sawyer since Avellone's version was considered "too problematic" and the woman cleric/warriior got removed because, I shit you not, she had plate armor with boobs. SJWs bitched VERY hard about it on both the forums and kickstarter so Sawyer decided it's better to cave in to their demands and remove her from the game.
I can post how they looked if you want.
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>>324123169
>first thing you read once you encounter Grieving Mother is childbirth in all its details
Pretty sure that was the point. Avellone doesn't fuck around.
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>>324123193
Please do so.
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>>324123193
Wasn't the plate armor with boobs something that happened to Divinity Original Sin though? Also yes, please post them.
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>>324123193

"Too problematic." I want off this wild ride. People are so fucking stupid, if its a fantasy game, what's wrong with shit being problematic? Aren't we supposed to have things that challenge us in multiple ways? Why does everything need to be within acceptable parameters? Why even play video games, just go hide in your fucking hug box safe space.

Also, if you would like to post the images, please do.
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>>324123338
I belive this is the image he is talking about. One of the first promo arts.
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>>324122709
I'm a creative, and I am also not an autist. If he doesn't like the company's pipeline why does it work in it? How can he feel angry towards others for something he caused?

As I said, a child. A manchild, that is.
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>>324123296
No, Original Sin didn't have plate armor with boobs. It had plate armor bra, which also triggered SJWs (but was still left ingame and only removed from promotional artwork because the dev knows SJWs don't play games lel)

>>324123270
>>324123296
>>324123338
See >>324123386 for one shot of them and my pic related for another.
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>>324123193
>>324123338
Honestly, I think it's the pressure of crowdfunding that got to Sawyer. He's always been an autistic faggot but at least he held his position.
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>>324123452
>>324123386
It's also worth adding that they shortened Eder's hair and made it blonde because people bitched that he's an Aragorn ripoff.
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>>324123410
>If he doesn't like the company's pipeline why does it work in it?
>he left he company
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>>324123495
Sawyer of old is long gone. There's only the crazy old cat lady turbosjw Sawyer now.
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>>324123495
Sawyer is totally right there. If you want to portray a realistic world, you have to include rape.
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>>324123495
>cook cook rapes left and right
>only off handedly mentioned he does that
>and otherwise part of a character's background, and treated with respect
>plus you get to shoot him in the face

FUCK SJWS
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>>324123193
Do you know how different Avellone's monk character was from the one in the expansion and what exactly made Sawyer rewrite him?
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>>324123582
Oh I agree, I'm just saying it was crowdfunding that killed old Sawyer
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>>324123648
That was the old Sawyer, before PoE and Kickstarter and the whole thing.
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>>324123680
May I ask what happened between that response and now?
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>>324123662
The new version of the monk added in White March is credited to Sawyer and Ziets and has very little dialogue, just like all the non-Avellone companions, which makes it very obvious it ain't written by him anymore.
And the new monk is not problematic in any way, he's as safe as you can get. A grumpy old man that likes drinking.

>>324123741
Kickstarter and PoE happened. Either SJWs finally got to him (through how much "Feedback" he got due to PoE being crowdfunded), he finally snapped and unleashed his power level or a combination of the two.

Anyhow the bottom line is that there are no talented people left in Obsidian outside of Ziets.
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>>324123193
sjw wins again
thanks progressive liberals
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Just a bummer to see someone to cave to SJWs
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>>324123835
That's just sad. At least Fargo seems cool and respects Avellone's work. Looking forward to his contribution to Numenera and that Wasteland book.
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>>324123835
You know, for me mocking some of Avellone's more pretentious dialogue, I'd honestly prefer it more than some of the driver we got in POE.

At least you could tell Avellone put though into his writing, even if I personally found it obnoxious sometimes.
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>>324124040
Avellone's goal is not to make companions that must be likeable, but rather complex personalities, which Durance and Grieving Mother both are.
Meanwhile the rest of the companions feel juvenile in comparison.
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>>324123951
it really fucking is. goddamn this world man.
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>>324123951
>I only read titles instead of the full article

Obsidian asked the guy who wrote the joke if he was ok with it being removed. The author of the joke to remove it so it doesn't look bad on Obsidian's part. Kill yourself double nigger.
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>>324123835
Ziets is not with Obsidian, he was just a stretchgoal. He works full time for InXile now.
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>>324124321
No good people left in Obsidian then.
RIP
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>>324124293
I wasn't referring to the tombstone thing at all, really. In fact you only just not reminded me of it.

Please read the thread instead of cherrypicking posts
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>>324124293
Nobody in the thread mentioned the limerick, good job proving that you're a fucking shill.
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>>324124354
Tim Cain.
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>>324123835
>>324124321
Obsidian still has Tim Cain, right?
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>>324124293
This post is highly ironic.
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>>324124432
>>324124464
Unless they put him in charge of a project, then they're still fucked.
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>You'll never date Chris Avellone
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>>324124293
Oh the ironing
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>>324124464
Tim Cain really stopped bothering with game development outside of programming. He's a terrible fucking programmer.
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>>324124515
What, you didn't like the Stronghold in Pillars of Eternity?
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>>324124567
my heart
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>>324124580
That guy made the Fallout engine all by himself.
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>>324122654
>hence why he quit Obsidian because he got pissed off people changed and cut his writing
Is that really the reason?

Got any source?
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>>324124602
The stronghold in PoE is so fucking shit and shallow compared to its BG2 and NWN2 incarnations. I hope you were making a joke.
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>>324124716
His facebook where he posted that he's fucking tired of people fucking with his work and changing it. He posted that like week before leaving the company.
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>>324124896
Oh I see.
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>>324124763
I know, but that's what Tim Cain primarily worked on.
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>>324124896
I thought he was talking about the release of Fallout 4.
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>>324124987
FO4 wasn't even out back then
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>>324124896
I think it was more about seeing projects being cancelled. Again. That's why he's a freelancer now, he can work on all sorts of things.
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Obsidian should give up making games and instead do the writing, quests and faction mechanics for other "RPG's" instead.
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>>324125146
>writing
>without Ziets and Avellone
Yeah good luck with that.
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>>324124602
Did anyone? There was no point to it. It had terrible execution. Just look at how everything is behind at least 4 loading screens -- fast travel to stronghold, that's one. Enter building in stronghold, that's two. Do what you're there to do, shop, sleep, whatever. Exit building, that's number three. Then leave, that's four.

Four fucking loading screens. Awful execution. And as you racked up save files, loading times skyrocketed. By I got to endgame I was having 20 second screens.
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>>324123452
what, that's considered boobplate? women DO have tits and need to accommodate them to an extent.
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>>324125258
I actually went and deleted all my saves outside of last recent few later in the game precisely due to loading times getting insufferable.

>>324125281
Tell that to SJWs.
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>>324125281
>women DO have tits
What? No.
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>>324125320
I have never seen a game do this before, but when you have enough save files and you start the game up, it has to load in all your saves. The main menu says it's loading in your saves. It's ridiculous. Icewind Dale 2 was better than that.
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>>324125587
That's the magic of Unity engine.
Wasteland 2 has the same problem as does any other Unity engine game.
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>>324125281
So only women have breasts? Check your privilege shitlord
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>>324125281
>what, that's considered boobplate?
It shouldn't be, but it's obviously not a realistic breastplate
>women DO have tits and need to accommodate them to an extent.
Nah mate. Nah. Armor is designed the way it is for a reason.

Ultimately, game designers shouldn't be afraid to make what they want. If you want to make boobplate, chainmail bikinis, plate bras, or whatever, it's totally fine. Just fucking do it. Don't quit because some people whine about it online.
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>>324124716
>>324124896
No, it's something personal. Same reason why he won't sign up for anyone full time according to one interview.
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>>324126352
>Don't quit because some people whine about it online
I agree with that but all /v/ ever does is just that
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>>324126352
I agree, but that chestpiece is perfectly reasonable, especially if she wears it all the time. squished up titties is uncomfortable, so I hear. the reason plate is designed the way it is, is that women were never a consideration.
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>>324126665
Joan of Arc didn't have problems wearing full plate fyi.
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>>324126769
She was also flat as a board and didn't do any actual fightign.
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>>324126769
maybe she was a flat bint. she posed as a boy successfully didn't she
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>>324123012
Washed up shitheel who embarrassed himself and the fallout franchise by making that trash new Vegas, then going on to make that horrible shit wl2?
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>>324125197
Sawyer is better writer than both combined
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>>324127019
bethbabby detected, this thread is for adults
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>>324125258
>>324125320
Pretty sure they patched it so that you can rest on the stronghold map screen now, getting the stat raise you want.
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>>324127019
Sawyer was the project lead on New Vegas you retard.
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>>324127230
Hi Sawyer
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XZ9ZM-2R8XH-X3LTJ
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>>324124293

Obsidiots, ladies and gentlemen,
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>>324128124
Thanks for Omikron.
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>>324122523
>yfw 'tip hat' has changed from notion of respect to offensive 'lul epicz meme' b
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>>324122523
>"we also wanted our characters to resonate with all players and made sure to include diverse, dynamic cast. Female, LGBTQ and multi ethnic characters"

Into the trash it goes.
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>>324123193
Yeah, sure. This sounds so very legit when obisidian only has ever ASKED a guy if he wanted to change his message. You guys are your own fucking boogeymen, riling yourselves up so you can have something to be fucking mad at.

Source or get the fuck out.
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>>324122745
All 4chan memes are now the property of reddit inc
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>>324124567
When did Avellone turn into an old creep?
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> all these unsourced statements
thanks goobergrape
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>>324128408
Why did they ask them to change if it's not what they wanted?
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>>324124896
So nothing but speculation portrayed as evidence?

Why would he wait so long if he would have finished his work on PoE ages ago?

Especially weak if you can´t provide any twitter drama involving any exchange between sawyer and avellone, or at least something that can be misconstrued as such.
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>>324128408
>change message
Nowhere in my post did I talk about thel limerick but nice try shill.
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>>324128569
Name another "SJW" thing they have done that you have proof for. You have fucking nothing.

>>324128514
To avoid some heat since it didn't really matter?
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>>324128408
you're the second retard to bring that up when nobody was talking about it in the first place
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>>324128535
Cmon man it's obvious that his problem was with Sawyer mainly, he's the one who has the final word on cutting out content.

I remember and interview before PoE where Sawyer steals Avellones question and he looks like "fuck that guy".
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>>324128458
>unironically posting tumblr babyspeak

Into the trash you go.
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based Avellone
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>>324128507
>tries to build persona as videogame culture aficionados
>use association with videogames as an insult
every time with these fucking retards
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What? What in that post even implies or states that Avellone is mad?

Typical /v/ making drama out of literal nothing.
Next thing you know you'll be calling him a cuckold or something stupid I suppose.
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Obsidian is literally Reddit: the company

Obsidiots are redditors
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>>324128514
Asing someone IF they wanted to change something and asking someone TO change something are two different things.
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>>324122523
>beef
>4chan memes are literally your first reference point of solving problems and figuring out things

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>324128667
you're whining like a bitch m8, he complained about avellone's work getting panned, not the sjw boogeyman you seem to want to be.
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>>324128950
Speaking of cucks, wasn't Avellone divorced with 2 kids?
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>>324129035
No. If they ask it they are automatically putting pressure on him to do it.
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>>324128972
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>>324128714
They did video interviews together?
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>>324128950
"Tips hat" is being read with the tone used for "tips fedora".
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>>324128821
Goes to show that he likes narrative driven games and for a good reason. He's a writer. If you showed him Clannad he'd fall in love with it.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/two-paths-through-the-wasteland-brian-fargo-on-wasteland-2-and-fallout-4/

man this article is pretty neat actually. really explores the design philosophy and especially in regards to budget
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>>324128972
4chan is literally reddit as well. They're everywhere.

I'm trying to hide all my memes and ideas. They will never take them from me.
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>>324128572

But there's literally nothing wrong with what he said?
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>>324129189
Nah it was a panel thing.
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>>324129390
Gonna read that. I like Fargo a lot, but I really wish he didn't get involved with that Fig shit.
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Is there any reason to still be interested in Obsidian projects these days?
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>>324129806
No
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>>324129806
i only played New Vegas and thought it was great.

i think you should try at least one game from a company for quite some time before you talk shit about it as a whole.

i played vanilla Skyrim for hundreds of hours and enjoyed it almost masochistically before realizing i had delved too much time on such an empty and ultimately meaningless feeling.
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>>324129098
He said Avellone's work was cut because of SJW's, when there's absolutely no proof just to satisfy his rage boner.
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durance was good but grieving mother felt like typical edgy avellone
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MCA has a very long and wordy response on the reason why he left Obsidian. I wanted to post it in this thread, but it would've been 5 posts long, so just go and read it yourself.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/01/02/chris-avellone-talks-games-obsidian-and-christmas-sweater-etiquette.aspx
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>>324129156
No, not really. Maybe the guy didn't realise it could be considered "transphobic" or whatever, so they gave him a venue if he wanted to change his mind. Don't be paranoid.
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>>324130179
>Obsidian had cool people, but there were a lot of projects that Obsidian wouldn't consider or couldn't consider – both internally and externally. There were even ones that Obsidian didn't know it couldn't do, some of which I discovered to my surprise after my departure (hypothetically, something with "Old" and "Republic" in the title). Hey – now I know, but I never would have known otherwise.
retard here, what does this mean?
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>>324130136
i havent seen the forum bitching but i'd honestly be more surprised if it didnt exist, given the limerick mess came from the same place
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>all this shit about sawyer and sjws and avellone and nobody posts a source
Ayy
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>>324122882
>dieselpunk
Stop adding "-punk" to everything, you fucking idiots. Steampunk is already a shitty, worthless subgenre of fantasy, we don't need any more.
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>>324130297

So Obisidian is making a new SWTOR game with EA?And MCA only know about this after his departure?
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>>324130474
It's always a gay fan fiction written by RPGCodex fujoshi
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>>324130528
Dieselpunk has been a genre as long as Steampunk has.

It just lacks the autistic fanbase to make it retarded.
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>>324130528
>Steampunk is already a shitty, worthless subgenre of fantasy
I see someone never played Arcanum.
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>>324130286
Yes, really. You're being naive when you accuse others of being paranoid. A company does not just walk up to you and ask if you want to change some content you made ages ago that has already shipped with their game, expecting no reaction. They weren't just asking. Go get a job.
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>>324124567
Chris Avellone looks like that introverted kid people bully who was always embarrassed of his awesome dad. that kid probably had a hot mom that probably babied him in public also.
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>>324130749
They didn't expect a reaction to this piece of content and when they received it, they wanted to make sure that the guy was okay with it. That's it.
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>>324130297
guessing he discovered they were blacklisted from doing kotor 3 or working on tor but only could be told this after leaving
>>324130474
several examples have been posted
>dont actually play the games
>dont actually read the threads
is there anything you tumblrcunts engage in beyond the surface level?
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>At this point, it's probably 1am or 2am, so I look up pictures of Felicia Day looking fancy on the internet, and whisper, "One day. One. Day." Then I go to sleep in my shrine composed of Felicia's hair and fingernails, bought off the internet for reasonable sums. It turns out Felicia sells them as a sideline business and as a way of getting the address for future stalkers for police review. Who knew?

What the fuck Chris
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>>324131423
Nope
Abandon ship
He's crossed the line
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>>324128771
>unironically posting stale memes
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>>324131389
>What's his relationship with Felicia Day?
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Almost everything he says is pro-SJW, yet the Obdsidiots pounce on >>324123495 as if it somehow makes him anti-SJW.

Guess what plenty of SJW shit has rape in it, I guess Jesscia Jones is anti-SJW too.
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>>324131520
>realism in armor
>no realism in the gun
Why arbitrarily be realistic about some things and not about others? That logic fails.
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>>324131757
Let's just say she had to exchange some favours to get that role in New Vegas.
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>>324131423
>sarkpwns

literally retarded
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>>324131810
The armor isn't realistic either. Standard armor was typically fitted to the person wearing it and the designs that they tend to use when they go "realistic" would have irreversibly damaged the torso of a female.
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>>324131389
Makes you stop and think what kind of sick fetishes Chris Avellone might be into.
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>>324131423
she's one helluva con artist.
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>>324131925
He films himself sitting alone in his backyard making bubbles for the amusement of his cat, what did you expect?
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>>324132627
>he takes pictures of himself having fun with his pet

As do all normal people?
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>>324125654
The Unity engine doesn't handle save files itself. You can use C# to write or read data like you would in any other application. However, there's popular plugins designed to make it very easy to save entire scenes, which may have nasty side effects like those.
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>>324130935
No example of SJWing has been posted though. Only sawyer's "this is kinda what I think" statements, which doesn't mean he's enforcing them without any discussion. You should try to read more, so that one day you'll actually learn how.
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So basically, Avellone doesn't have a problem with Fargo, but doesn't like Josh Sawyer at all?

I can see why /v/ doesn't like Sawyer already, but what's the consensus here on Avellone and Fargo?
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>>324133335
They're enabling crpgs so they're good.
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>>324133205
the trnyy limeric you brought up in the first place is an example
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>>324130297
>>324130935
Considering that George Lucas absolutely hated what they did in KotOR II, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had been blacklisted from future projects involving the IP.

The entire point of The Sith Lords was to question the morality of the established world. Lucas had a fairly hands-off approach to the games(in particular the KotOR games because they were so far in the past they couldn't fuck with his stories), so he didn't really know WHAT they were doing story-wise. By the time he actually found out(that they were doing grey jedis and pragmatic sith) he was furious.
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>>324126665
Breastplate isnt tight on the chest, though. There is plenty of room for the padding you'll be wearing underneath, and in general for the shape to deflect blows away.
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does josh sawyer still post in the new vegas thread on something awful
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BEEF
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>>324122523
Never really seen threads about PoE on /v/. But after reading this discussion I'd like to know /v/'s general opinion on the game. Is it even worth playing. A was never a fan of these types of games to begin with. I've played Fallout 2 and Planescape torment. And thought that maybe I should try PoE. Should I abandon the thought and just play BG or NWN instead?
On a related note should I plae enchanced editions of BG games or just stick to the originals? I don't mind installing patches manually, but maybe ee added something of value.
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>>324133657
>noooooo, stop doing cool things with my setting in a way that makes it richer without messing with established elements!
Fucking Lucas.
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>>324130773
anon you are projecting
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>>324133657
that loser hated everything good in starwars vidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dnSORl9_oI
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>>324133657
Source? Always see people mention Lucas hated the game but never see an interview where he said that.
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>>324125587
I remember the first Witcher and Fallout 2 having the same problems.
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>>324134217
https://youtu.be/-dnSORl9_oI?t=3m39s
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>>324134217
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>324129495
>implying those things don't come at the expense of authenticity and free artistical expression
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>>324135584

Writing what you want to write impedes artistic expression? Being influenced or inspired by a current movement is inauthentic?
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>>324134217
He was right to shitcan the Darth Maul project. Who the fuck cares about prequel characters?
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>>324135921
>prequels are bad

Love this meme.
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>>324135921
But he stopped them from potentially salvaging part of it.
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>>324134217
>>324135364
I teared up a touch at Battlefront 3.
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>>324136565
he means ep 1-3, which are bad
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>>324124669
And it's buggy as fuck
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>>324134053
Just play BG1 and BG2 already. EE isn't buggy anymore but has some shitty new content. I'd recommend just modding the originals (GOG versions)
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>>324134053
It's shit
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>>324139676
How's Icewind Dale?
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>>324139676
I noticed that they were made by Bioware and not Black isle. Were they not shit back then?
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>>324135584
But he's literally talking about what he wants to write.
If anything, your attitude is the one which could stifle creativity and expression.
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>>324139761
It's a custom party dungeon crawler with no story. If you liked combat in Baldur's Gate you'll enjoy Icewind Dale.
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>>324139906
>bioware fucked up so much that young people think they were always like neobioware

BG2 is probably the best RPG ever made and nothing will ever top it.
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>>324140252
Wouldn't say no story just less, much less. Still fun if you enjoy infinity engine games.
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Opinions on the following?

Knights of the Old Republic 1
Knights of the Old Republic 2
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights 2
Jade Empire
Alpha Protocal
Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
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>>324140583
I know, that they weren't as bad before. I'm just not sure if their writing was as good as Black Isle's/Obsidian's.
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>>324140792
Decent
Decent with mods
Shit but good mods
Mediocre
Decent
Decent
Good
Decent
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>>324140792
Pretty good.
Great but unfinished.
Never finished it, great multiplayer scene though.
Main story is a bit shite, haven't played the expansions.
Really cool setting, but the combat's awful and the potentially interesting morality is let down by Bioware being Bioware.
One hell of a flawed gem, just reading the name makes me want to do another playthrough.
Really liked it, but again Bioware morality.
Still liked it, even if it completely ignored the first game's plot.
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>>324140964
BG1 has some mediocre writing from time to time but BG2 is great.
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>>324134053
Everything about PoE is bad

like there isnt a single good thing about it.

Its beyond me what went wrong in the development., there are so many little things they could have doen to improve the game greatly developers did back in the day like coloring the fucking areas differently so that they don't look a copypaste of each other

If it had a bethesda stamp on it i would have thought they made it
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>>324140252
>>324140964
I also remember people saying that stroy wasn't NWN1 biggest strength. And I personally liked story in KOTOR2 more than in KOTOR1despite the fact that 2's story wasn't even finished.
That's why I'm sceptical about Bioware's writing skills in general.
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Avellone flat out said he left because Obsidian basically wouldn't give him enough power and let him boss a team around. So basically the cucks at Larian are easier to bully and have no problem letting him take a shit on the Divinity setting.
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>>324141247
Was meant towards >>324140583 and not >>324140252 sorry.
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>>324141403
>this is what Sawyerfags actually believe
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>>324141536
He said this shit in an interview dumb ass. Also he's having family problems or something
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>>324141403
Considering what nonsensical and basic everything was in PoE i think he was right
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Josh Sawyer is the cancer killing Obsidian.

They need to give Tim Cain control over a game. He's far more talented, and being gay makes him more SJW friendly than Cucksawyer anyway.
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What is Obsidian even working on now?
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>>324142045
That mmo World of Tanks clone which is destined to fail.
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>>324142204
Well at least they made some worthwhile titles
RIP Obsidian
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why is everyone shitting on josh sawyer when he's responsible for the best game of the last generation?
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>>324141872
Too bad he doesn't really have any interest in anything other than programming at this point.
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What the fuck happened to him?
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>>324142961
He lost weight.
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>>324143243
>>324142961
How can he look in the mirror and think vegan diet is healthy?
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>>324143415
>most SJWs are vegan spooky skeletons
>Sawyer became a spooky skeleton SJW

Someone needs to force feed him some meat.
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>>324142725
Fuck off Sawyer
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>>324140792
>pretty good
>great but unfinished
>weak
>good
>okay
>great but heavily flawed
>great but flawed
>okay
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>>324142961
The SJW transformation really is an interesting sight to behold.
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>>324133609
see
>>324129035
and
>>324130749
>>324130850
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what the fuck is diesel punk? Our reality?
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Does /v/ like Brian Fargo?
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>>324147279
do you have a brain? can you form your own opinion?
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>>324147482
>being interested in other peoples opinions means someone can't form their own opinion
It's sad /v/ is now infested with idiots like yourself.
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>>324142943
I just want a 2D Fallout / Arcanum and also a VtM:B successors.
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Not videogames

Not videogames

Not videogames
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>>324134217
>that Darth Maul game

fuck, that would have been cool
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>>324148208
>being so desperate to fit in on an anonymous board you beg others for their opinions so you can parrot them later and try to berate anyone that calls you out on this childish behavior

can you just lurk a little bit longer? Just until you can form your own opinion
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>>324124110
You do know that grieving mother and durance were severely cut and scaled down. Barely any of Avellone's work made it to the final script.
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fuck this sawyer guy

glad I bought my pillars key off a russian key site
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>>324148340
>tfw Arcanum 2 was in development when Troika went under

It was going to use the Source engine apparently.
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>>324128408
That's wrong
They were going to change it no matter what
They just asked him if he wanted to write a new one first
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>>324133335
Avellone works magic on shit
Fargo is alright
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>>324131423
Why Sawyer, WHY!? I RESPECTED YOU.

God dammit, fuck everything.
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>>324131520
If he insists on omitting "wtf armor" in favour of "realistic" armor for the sake of logical consistancy, why not remove female warriors all together?
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