What is Avellone's beef with Brian Fargo? Did something happen?
>Being upset that a worse writer not only removes 2 of your planned 4 companions, but also throws all your writing for the main content of the game out because he'd rather include his Feather Special Snowflake Turbo Niggeress that also has a Cloaka
>so what's this game they're talking about, mite be interesting?
>An episodic single-player computer RPG inspired by the classics of the late 90s, set in a world fusing dark fantasy and dieselpunk.
wake me up when all the episodes are out then
Avellone was supposed to write 4 companions for the game and chunk of main story.
Sawyer cut out 2 of Avellone's 4 companions and cut out Avellone's main story writng entirely.
He then proceeded to greatly cut the dialogue of the remaining 2 companions because Avellone's companions had so much writing they made others look like garbage in comparison.
Guess what, despite all the cuts those 2 companions STILL have the most dialogue and are the most intersting in the game.
Durance and Grieving Mother are his in the final game.
He was also making two more, a monk and a female cleric/warrior. The former got cut but added in the expansion but with completely new writing by Sawyer since Avellone's version was considered "too problematic" and the woman cleric/warriior got removed because, I shit you not, she had plate armor with boobs. SJWs bitched VERY hard about it on both the forums and kickstarter so Sawyer decided it's better to cave in to their demands and remove her from the game.
I can post how they looked if you want.
"Too problematic." I want off this wild ride. People are so fucking stupid, if its a fantasy game, what's wrong with shit being problematic? Aren't we supposed to have things that challenge us in multiple ways? Why does everything need to be within acceptable parameters? Why even play video games, just go hide in your fucking hug box safe space.
Also, if you would like to post the images, please do.
I belive this is the image he is talking about. One of the first promo arts.
I'm a creative, and I am also not an autist. If he doesn't like the company's pipeline why does it work in it? How can he feel angry towards others for something he caused?
As I said, a child. A manchild, that is.
No, Original Sin didn't have plate armor with boobs. It had plate armor bra, which also triggered SJWs (but was still left ingame and only removed from promotional artwork because the dev knows SJWs don't play games lel)
See >>324123386 for one shot of them and my pic related for another.
Honestly, I think it's the pressure of crowdfunding that got to Sawyer. He's always been an autistic faggot but at least he held his position.
>cook cook rapes left and right
>only off handedly mentioned he does that
>and otherwise part of a character's background, and treated with respect
>plus you get to shoot him in the face
Oh I agree, I'm just saying it was crowdfunding that killed old Sawyer
The new version of the monk added in White March is credited to Sawyer and Ziets and has very little dialogue, just like all the non-Avellone companions, which makes it very obvious it ain't written by him anymore.
And the new monk is not problematic in any way, he's as safe as you can get. A grumpy old man that likes drinking.
Kickstarter and PoE happened. Either SJWs finally got to him (through how much "Feedback" he got due to PoE being crowdfunded), he finally snapped and unleashed his power level or a combination of the two.
Anyhow the bottom line is that there are no talented people left in Obsidian outside of Ziets.
You know, for me mocking some of Avellone's more pretentious dialogue, I'd honestly prefer it more than some of the driver we got in POE.
At least you could tell Avellone put though into his writing, even if I personally found it obnoxious sometimes.
Avellone's goal is not to make companions that must be likeable, but rather complex personalities, which Durance and Grieving Mother both are.
Meanwhile the rest of the companions feel juvenile in comparison.
>I only read titles instead of the full article
Obsidian asked the guy who wrote the joke if he was ok with it being removed. The author of the joke to remove it so it doesn't look bad on Obsidian's part. Kill yourself double nigger.
Did anyone? There was no point to it. It had terrible execution. Just look at how everything is behind at least 4 loading screens -- fast travel to stronghold, that's one. Enter building in stronghold, that's two. Do what you're there to do, shop, sleep, whatever. Exit building, that's number three. Then leave, that's four.
Four fucking loading screens. Awful execution. And as you racked up save files, loading times skyrocketed. By I got to endgame I was having 20 second screens.
I have never seen a game do this before, but when you have enough save files and you start the game up, it has to load in all your saves. The main menu says it's loading in your saves. It's ridiculous. Icewind Dale 2 was better than that.
>what, that's considered boobplate?
It shouldn't be, but it's obviously not a realistic breastplate
>women DO have tits and need to accommodate them to an extent.
Nah mate. Nah. Armor is designed the way it is for a reason.
Ultimately, game designers shouldn't be afraid to make what they want. If you want to make boobplate, chainmail bikinis, plate bras, or whatever, it's totally fine. Just fucking do it. Don't quit because some people whine about it online.
I agree, but that chestpiece is perfectly reasonable, especially if she wears it all the time. squished up titties is uncomfortable, so I hear. the reason plate is designed the way it is, is that women were never a consideration.
Sawyer is better writer than both combined
>yfw 'tip hat' has changed from notion of respect to offensive 'lul epicz meme' b
>"we also wanted our characters to resonate with all players and made sure to include diverse, dynamic cast. Female, LGBTQ and multi ethnic characters"
Into the trash it goes.
Yeah, sure. This sounds so very legit when obisidian only has ever ASKED a guy if he wanted to change his message. You guys are your own fucking boogeymen, riling yourselves up so you can have something to be fucking mad at.
Source or get the fuck out.
> all these unsourced statements
So nothing but speculation portrayed as evidence?
Why would he wait so long if he would have finished his work on PoE ages ago?
Especially weak if you can´t provide any twitter drama involving any exchange between sawyer and avellone,
or at least something that can be misconstrued as such.
Cmon man it's obvious that his problem was with Sawyer mainly, he's the one who has the final word on cutting out content.
I remember and interview before PoE where Sawyer steals Avellones question and he looks like "fuck that guy".
What? What in that post even implies or states that Avellone is mad?
Typical /v/ making drama out of literal nothing.
Next thing you know you'll be calling him a cuckold or something stupid I suppose.
Obsidian is literally Reddit: the company
Obsidiots are redditors
man this article is pretty neat actually. really explores the design philosophy and especially in regards to budget
i only played New Vegas and thought it was great.
i think you should try at least one game from a company for quite some time before you talk shit about it as a whole.
i played vanilla Skyrim for hundreds of hours and enjoyed it almost masochistically before realizing i had delved too much time on such an empty and ultimately meaningless feeling.
MCA has a very long and wordy response on the reason why he left Obsidian. I wanted to post it in this thread, but it would've been 5 posts long, so just go and read it yourself.
>Obsidian had cool people, but there were a lot of projects that Obsidian wouldn't consider or couldn't consider – both internally and externally. There were even ones that Obsidian didn't know it couldn't do, some of which I discovered to my surprise after my departure (hypothetically, something with "Old" and "Republic" in the title). Hey – now I know, but I never would have known otherwise.
retard here, what does this mean?
Yes, really. You're being naive when you accuse others of being paranoid. A company does not just walk up to you and ask if you want to change some content you made ages ago that has already shipped with their game, expecting no reaction. They weren't just asking. Go get a job.
Chris Avellone looks like that introverted kid people bully who was always embarrassed of his awesome dad. that kid probably had a hot mom that probably babied him in public also.
guessing he discovered they were blacklisted from doing kotor 3 or working on tor but only could be told this after leaving
several examples have been posted
>dont actually play the games
>dont actually read the threads
is there anything you tumblrcunts engage in beyond the surface level?
>At this point, it's probably 1am or 2am, so I look up pictures of Felicia Day looking fancy on the internet, and whisper, "One day. One. Day." Then I go to sleep in my shrine composed of Felicia's hair and fingernails, bought off the internet for reasonable sums. It turns out Felicia sells them as a sideline business and as a way of getting the address for future stalkers for police review. Who knew?
What the fuck Chris
>unironically posting stale memes
Almost everything he says is pro-SJW, yet the Obdsidiots pounce on >>324123495 as if it somehow makes him anti-SJW.
Guess what plenty of SJW shit has rape in it, I guess Jesscia Jones is anti-SJW too.
The armor isn't realistic either. Standard armor was typically fitted to the person wearing it and the designs that they tend to use when they go "realistic" would have irreversibly damaged the torso of a female.
The Unity engine doesn't handle save files itself. You can use C# to write or read data like you would in any other application. However, there's popular plugins designed to make it very easy to save entire scenes, which may have nasty side effects like those.
No example of SJWing has been posted though. Only sawyer's "this is kinda what I think" statements, which doesn't mean he's enforcing them without any discussion. You should try to read more, so that one day you'll actually learn how.
So basically, Avellone doesn't have a problem with Fargo, but doesn't like Josh Sawyer at all?
I can see why /v/ doesn't like Sawyer already, but what's the consensus here on Avellone and Fargo?
Considering that George Lucas absolutely hated what they did in KotOR II, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had been blacklisted from future projects involving the IP.
The entire point of The Sith Lords was to question the morality of the established world. Lucas had a fairly hands-off approach to the games(in particular the KotOR games because they were so far in the past they couldn't fuck with his stories), so he didn't really know WHAT they were doing story-wise. By the time he actually found out(that they were doing grey jedis and pragmatic sith) he was furious.
Never really seen threads about PoE on /v/. But after reading this discussion I'd like to know /v/'s general opinion on the game. Is it even worth playing. A was never a fan of these types of games to begin with. I've played Fallout 2 and Planescape torment. And thought that maybe I should try PoE. Should I abandon the thought and just play BG or NWN instead?
On a related note should I plae enchanced editions of BG games or just stick to the originals? I don't mind installing patches manually, but maybe ee added something of value.
Great but unfinished.
Never finished it, great multiplayer scene though.
Main story is a bit shite, haven't played the expansions.
Really cool setting, but the combat's awful and the potentially interesting morality is let down by Bioware being Bioware.
One hell of a flawed gem, just reading the name makes me want to do another playthrough.
Really liked it, but again Bioware morality.
Still liked it, even if it completely ignored the first game's plot.
Everything about PoE is bad
like there isnt a single good thing about it.
Its beyond me what went wrong in the development., there are so many little things they could have doen to improve the game greatly developers did back in the day like coloring the fucking areas differently so that they don't look a copypaste of each other
If it had a bethesda stamp on it i would have thought they made it
I also remember people saying that stroy wasn't NWN1 biggest strength. And I personally liked story in KOTOR2 more than in KOTOR1despite the fact that 2's story wasn't even finished.
That's why I'm sceptical about Bioware's writing skills in general.
Avellone flat out said he left because Obsidian basically wouldn't give him enough power and let him boss a team around. So basically the cucks at Larian are easier to bully and have no problem letting him take a shit on the Divinity setting.
I just want a 2D Fallout / Arcanum and also a VtM:B successors.
>being so desperate to fit in on an anonymous board you beg others for their opinions so you can parrot them later and try to berate anyone that calls you out on this childish behavior
can you just lurk a little bit longer? Just until you can form your own opinion