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The west will get Dragon Quest Builders right /v/?
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>>324108119
Don't care. I'm getting my copy this month.
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I think the more important question is whether we'll get DQMJ3 or not.
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>>324108357
You'd better get tons of people to buy 7 and 8
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>>324108119
>>324108357

Better pray to the goddess that SquareEnix stops being stupid.
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THREADLY REMINDER:

I will literally suck any dick to get the Dragon Warrior Monsters remake translated.

It's all I have ever wanted.
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It's the one DQ game that I would bet on.
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>>324108741
Why's that?
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>>324108119
I hope so. Don't want to pay extra just to import it. But I hope it takes off in Japan.
DQVIII selling less than most DQs and DQ Heroes not selling up to par with other remakes is worrying.

>>324108526
This image makes me want to fondle her.
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People need to stop hoping for just one game and demand SquareEnix release every DQ game. That's the only way to get full support and therefore guarantee all the games you want will come to the west.

And before you claim its unreasonable or unrealistic, realize that the worst selling DQ game still sells as good or better than the best selling Atlus and Namco JRPGs. SquareEnix really has no excuse ignoring a game like Theathrythm or Rocket Slime 3. Let alone Monsters and Dragon Quest X.
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>>324108889

Minecraft audience.
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>>324108119
This is how it works.

Square will announce Builders and XI.
>Builders will get a physical
>XI will be Digital
>PS4 onry

Mark my words. We'll be getting them in like a year or 2
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>>324108987
>XI will be digital
Highly doubt it.
They want to push PS4.
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>>324108526
I want to fuck Alena so much.
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DQ heroes sold well so maybe
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>>324108357
If DQ 7 and 8 do well enough I hope Nintendo brings that and this over.
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>>324109047
>Square
>Doing anything right

Have you seen Hitman? Square is complety upside down
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>>324108898

>DQVIII selling less than most DQs and DQ Heroes not selling up to par with other remakes is worrying.
Dragon Quest VIII on 3DS has sold 850,000 copies. And it'll probably hit a million by the end of its run. Pretty typical for a DQ remake. Its also not a true remake so that could be a reason some people didn't buy it.

But all that matters really is the western sales. In terms of cementing more western releases. After games like Bravely Default and FF Type-0 sold less than a port of Chrono Trigger and DQ games with no marketing, SquareEnix really has no excuse for ignoring DQ in the west.
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>>324109131
Be glad we even got the second game
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>>324109058
Isn't Heroes 2 already confirmed to come west?
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>>324109285
I don't think so.

I would expect it though eventually since KT does their damnedest to bring it's games overseas.
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>>324108357
No, the most important questions are whether we'll get Rocket Slime 3DS and Theatrhythm DQ or not.
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>>324108526
I love Dragon Quest
But I think Toriyama and the music guy both need to take a hike. They're holding the games back.
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>>324109442

>dislikes the character and monster design
>dislikes the music
So you only play the game for the story and item collection? I feel sorry for you. I mean, Yuji Horii is amazing and those aspects are good. But you are missing so much.
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>>324109442
>>and the music guy both need to take a hike
>Talking shit about based Sugiyama
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>>324109442

>Talking shit about the OST
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>>324109442
What replacements do you have in mind anon?
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>>324109285
DQH2 isn't even out in Japan yet.
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>>324109442

>but they should really get rid of the most popular and identifiable parts of the games
Yeah. If they want to kill the series.
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>>324109442
Risk alienating fans, why? I hope you're not one of those people who wants DQ to be more like FF
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>>324109442
Shinjuku riots of 2016.
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>>324109442
>mfw
Real talk though Toriyama isn't gonna be around forever. Who even could replace him?
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>>324109658
Nobuo for music

Shindol for art
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>>324109886
One of his various understudies
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>>324109932
That's pretty disgusting, both choices.
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>>324109131

>tfw been learning moonrunes for the last 7 months
>I ended up importing Rocket Slime 3 a few weeks back and started playing
>mfw it's even better than the DS game

It's absolutely criminal that it never got localized. CRIMINAL.
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>>324109658

I don't want to think about it. But eventually, Sugiyama will have to be replaced. And I don't think anyone is going to be able to match his style. The music is going to be massively changed no matter who they pick.

Realizing this, my vote goes to either Joe Hisaishi or Yasunori Mitsuda. They have the best chance of coming close to Sugiyama's mixture of Baroque, Swing and Romantic styles. Yoko Shimomura is also fantastic, but somehow I don't think her style will fit with the series.

Please, for the love of god, don't pick Yoko Kanno, Uematsu and ESPECIALLY not Yuki Kajura. Oh god I threw up a little just thinking about that.
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>>324109932
I'm glad you're not in charge.
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Is it a classic RPG?
No?
Is it a clone of a popular game?
Yes?

We're getting it.
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>>324109886

Toriyama is the youngest guy on the team. Sugiyama and Yuji Horii will go before him.

And I honestly wish the series would just end when Yuji Horii passes or retires. But since Square owns it, you know that will never happen. Milk it until it dies!
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>>324110136
Why would any of those that you don't want to be picked, well, be picked?
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>>324110246
>Toriyama is the youngest guy on the team
That's true I suppose, but really I think an art shift would be the most drastic change so I think that's why I singled him out. While it's not quite universally loved, Toriyama's art is pretty iconic and recognizable.
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>>324109932
You wanna incite Jap riots anon?

>>324110136
>Yoko Shimomura is also fantastic, but somehow I don't think her style will fit with the series.
She's pretty good when she's not doing her pianos and violin shtick. Not that I don't mind it but still.
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>>324110289

All of those artists have done music for both anime and games. Just like Sugiyama has.

I don't want Yoko Kanno because she is very inconsistent in her quality. Uematsu is the most identifiable part of the Final Fantasy series (and hasn't written anything close to his past works yet). And Yuji Kajura literally writes the same five songs over and over again.
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How do you guys enjoy this weebshit?
Fuck off to /a/ and r/anime, you fucks
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>>324110490
I'm just saying, Kanno and Kajiura don't exactly do a lot of video game work, and I think as long as Yuji Horii is around he'll try to keep the similarities between FF and DQ scarce.
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>>324110416

If any of the guys leave the team (or die), it will be a massive shift. Yuji Horii leaving would be the biggest shift however. Since he is not only the head writer and designer, but controls all aspects of the game development. Including signing off on the music and monster designs. If he left, you'd notice everything change. Not just the games story.

Akira Toriyama leaving would be the second biggest change, as you said. Though one of his multiple assistants could possibly duplicate his style. It would still be different though. Akira Toriyama doesn't write the main story, but makes a lot of suggestions that Yuji Horii incorporates. I wouldn't be surprised if he suggested the Zoom skill and the common use of towers in all the games from DQII and on.
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>>324110541
Normie please leave.
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So is it literally a minecraft clone?
It doesn't look like they really changed anything up with what they have shown.
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>>324110136
>And I don't think anyone is going to be able to match his style. The music is going to be massively changed no matter who they pick.

News got out a while back that, similar to Toriyama and the people who draw for him, Sugiyama is mentoring people so they can assist him and compose for the series when he's gone.
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>>324110541

Here's your reply.
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>>324110781
It has a story and quests and shit too
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>>324110781
I think it's Dragon Quest 1 + minecraft gameplay
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>>324110781
Maybe you should read some more articles on it.
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>>324110626

Both Kajura and Kanno has done a fair share of video games. Kanno did most of the Uncharted Waters and Nobunoga's Ambition series. And Yuki Kajura does basically everything BeeTrain does. Including the ongoing .Hack series of games.
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>>324110781

>It doesn't look like they really changed anything up with what they have shown.

-Story driven content
-Fighting monsters has a purpose
-Building leads to unlocking new content/areas
-Set content outside of building like mine carts and armor

If anything, its more like Terraria with a story added.
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If this game doesn't get localized I am going to kill myself.
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>>324110781

It's Terraria 3D with bits of Pixelmon.
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>>324111183
Seems like a minor release to do that with. Save it for XI.
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>>324110742
Toriyama most likely gives more on the feeling of the game. Horii tells him the story but Toriyama draws how people see things. Plus a lot of the jokes in DQ comes from Toriyama.

I can see us getting Builders. And honestly I can see us getting more DQ for the sole reason that the CEO isn't fucking retarded. Wada was a complete mess that almost ruined SE forever. This new guy seem to really want to rebuild SE name. And DQ is a series they might feel should have a second shot. I just hope they put enough effort into 7 and 8 over here.

As for 11 it really depends on the publisher. If it's SE I can see both 3DS and PS4 coming over here (and NX if rumors are true). But if Nintendo is the publisher like with 7 and 8 we will only see 3DS and maybe NX since they would hold publishing rights on that game and all versions.
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>>324108923
SE has the excuse of being massive retards.
But yes, while it's almost miraculous that DQVII and VIII are coming, I'm still not satisfied one bit.
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>>324111258

Don't think they've announced who is publishing DQVII and VIII on 3DS. SquareEnix published DQHeroes on PS4 and PC themselves. They might publish DQVII and VIII as well.

I honestly hope they do. Because then they can no longer use Nintendo or 'localization costs' as an excuse. Its all on them.
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>>324109057
>DQ Heroes
>Always have Jessica and either Maya, Alena, or Bianca in the party
>Have to stop and fap like every other mission
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>>324111431
Thought I've read somewhere Nintendo is publishing 7 and 8 but it could be they are just assuming. With them doing it with 6 and 9 plus Bravely Default and Bravely Second.
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>>324111617
It could just be that they'll have Nintendo do Nintendo releases of course, which explains why SE does Sony releases.
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>>324111685
Nintendo would never agree to that. If Nintendo is going to have publishing rights to any of DQ11 they will demand it all.
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>>324111859
I don't think SE would want to lose out on PS4 sales in the west, we'll just have to see. There's still a shit load we don't know about the game.
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Never played a dragon quest game

Would it be a good idea to start on a 3DS one? If yes, which one? My 3DS is on 9.2 so I can get the games regardless of their region
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>>324111859

Nintendo could release the 3DS version and Sony the PS4 version. It wouldn't be the first time two different companies released one game (Resident Evil 4 ring a bell?)

But the 3DS and PS4 versions of DQXI are also completely different. And the 3DS one would sell more. If anyone would have a problem with it, it would be Sony. SquareEnix might have to release the PS4 version themselves (if not both).
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>>324112284
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>>324112138
Which is why I'm leaning more on SE publishing everything. Heard rumors a lot of Japanese developers are moving towards PS4 to get more Japanese players to move to consoles. But they are also leaning towards the west to cover some cost just in case it doesn't completely work.

Hence why you are now seeing a giant push by Japanese developers on consoles and not just mobile like the few years beforehand.
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>>324110154
>>324109996

All seriousness aside for a moment about the artist, I really do think Nobuo would be a good fit for a majestic fantasy world as evidenced by this game. It has a fantastic soundtrack that goes really well with the game. While I wouldn't call any of his work stupendous, and ESPECIALLY not outside of a game, it has a few memorable tracks. I wouldn't call him mp3 worthy, but he works really well on the games he works on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7E1zhSh-oI

One of the tracks that I stopped and listen to in a game, and I rarely do that.

Meanwhile, Sugiyama on the other hand, while his tunes are very recognizable, are very dull and are almost Lord of the Ring's levels of "generic fantasy sounds" that you can pick up at a walmart bargain bin for $6.99

>>324110435
>You wanna incite Jap riots anon?

This is one of those opinions I usually hold for unpopular opinions of "opinions that would get you flash mobbed if you said it in the right company."
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>>324112468
Uematsu is overrated garbage, and he hasn't put out music anywhere close to his best in years. Fuck you and everyone else suggesting he should compose for Dragon Quest.
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>Tfw just realised you can build a ton of dicks outside the main villain's area because you can
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>>324111546
Them DQ girls man
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>>324112458

>Hence why you are now seeing a giant push by Japanese developers on consoles and not just mobile like the few years beforehand.
You're also seeing it because mobile games didn't sell 20 million copies each like they expected. As usual, companies like SquareEnix, Capcom and Konami thought if they put a shitty game on a smartphone, it would be the next Angry Birds. And that didn't happen.

Plus, the whole smartphone fad is slowly dying down. Smartphone sales and more importantly, expensive smartphone data plans are seeing a 2-3% drop each month. At least in America. If people aren't willing to even pay Verizon for a plan, they're much less likely to waste $20 + DLC on some Final Fantasy spin off game.

And I say good riddance.
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>>324111546
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>>324108119
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>>324113020
What is she doing
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>>324112468

>Uematsu is good
>though I admit he only writes a few memorable songs per game
Uh...you just kind of proved why he isn't good. Since pretty much every song in the entire Dragon Quest series is memorable on its own.

>Meanwhile, Sugiyama on the other hand, while his tunes are very recognizable, are very dull and are almost Lord of the Ring's levels of "generic fantasy sounds" that you can pick up at a walmart bargain bin for $6.99
I do not agree in any way. Comparing Sugiyama to Howard Shore is dumb enough. He's more comparable to Ennio Morricone or Bernard Herrmann.
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>>324113147

She's searching for her wallet which her sister hid.
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>>324112468
I like Nobuo too anon.

But I think he's kinda lost his touch over the years I can't quite pinpoint it yet but it was somewhere down the line. He's not bad or anything just in a slump.
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>>324112468
Uematsu Problem is he loves doing different things. Some moment he does sweeping grandiose tracks and the next is a rap. It kind of works with FF since it's a series that is always changing itself. But DQ is a bedrock JRPG that needs a composer that has a consistent record.
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>>324112993
That and I feel a lot of them just don't want to just make F2P games. Since that's the only way to make any real money on smartphones. Hoping Japan leans more on consoles because where they go Japanese developers go.
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>>324113214
>Since pretty much every song in the entire Dragon Quest series is memorable on its own.
I disagree. I can recognize them upon hearing them, but I will rarely say any DQ song is actually nice, catchy, or will make me hum along with it. Nobuo is in the same boat, but his songs will make me say "Hey, this is nice" and have me humming along with the overworld, or even just stop to listen. Which is steps and bounds away from Sugiyama. I just also think he's the perfect fit for a fantasy genre like this, especially in the olden days of FF1 - 4 terms, and Last Story I think proves he still has that touch.

Anon's like >>324113367 might say he's lost his touch, but I think that's more or less saying Final Fantasy itself has lost its touch and he's composing for games that are less than spectacular.

No fantasy RPG game has a good soundtrack other than Zelda.

Maybe we should get Koji Kondo on this.
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>>324108119
Have they detailed character creation yet? They've only said something about changing your hair/skin colour.
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>>324113857
Anon I tend to be pretty understanding of others opinions.

But you're making it..hard.
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>>324113857

>Uematsu and Sakaguchi are the same
>except I like Uematsu a little more
That's called an opinion. And not really grounded in much logic. It also sounds like you've heard very little of both writers music.

Its also funny since Uematsu looks up to Sakaguchi as his insperation and mentor. And the best orchestrated versions of FF music were redone by Sakaguchi in his orchestrated concerts. Especially the 21 minute Opera from FFVI. Which a later Uematsu rendition was only 9 minutes, missing 3/4 the Opera scene and was horrible.

>No fantasy RPG game has a good soundtrack other than Zelda.
Okay, now I know you're just trolling.
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>>324109572
>The game doesn't matter, just how they look like.
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>>324113857

Uematsu is better at Synth mixing and chiptunes. Sugiyama is better at full orchestration.

Since the PS2 era and later, most high end games have been trying to turn more towards orchestrated music. Which is not Uematsu's strong suit. The irony however is, while Sugiyama is pretty much the guy who got orchestrated versions of game music popular, Japan prefers his synth versions in Dragon Quest games.

Truth really is stranger than fiction.
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>>324114871

>I don't know how to read
>here's a reaction image
Okay.
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>>324114871

Toriyama does far more than just influence how the game looks. I also talked about music and Yuji Horii's role in the series.

You're an idiot just trying to cause arguments. Please go away.
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>>324115007
>Japan prefers his synth versions in Dragon Quest games.
I remembered DQ8's 3DS version has the Orchestrated music.
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>>324114714
>And not really grounded in much logic. It also sounds like you've heard very little of both writers music.
No, you've definitely misconstrued my argument completely to straw man levels. Uematsu is in the same boat as Sugiyama of "plain, generic fantasy" sounds. But the difference is Sugiyama is someone that makes no impression in an already bland field, where as I feel Uematsu does make an impression. If I'm gonna go with a boat metaphor here, Uematsu is the right hand man on the ship, on top making commands on how to run the ship. Whereas Sugiyama is down in the bottom of the ship, stuck on a paddle rowing the boat.

>Its also funny since Uematsu looks up to Sakaguchi as his inspiration and mentor
Completely irrelevant. I love Shigesato Itoi's works, but that man takes inspiration from Peanuts and loves playing competitive Monopoly, both of which I hate. You can be inspired by someone terrible and make far superior outstanding work.

>>324115007
Not surprising. Doesn't Sugiyama come from an orchestra background that had nothing to do with games?
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>>324113367

Uematsu himself said he basically had a mental breakdown after writing the music for FFVI. Which is why he didn't head the music for Chrono Trigger. Then in the PS1 era, he had multiple family members die and what he called a 'mid life crisis'.

After FFIX, his music seemed to lose its creative spark. A lot of people obsess over the music in FFX, but Uematsu didn't write a lot of it. And the few things he did write just got remixed over and over. There's like fucking 10 versions of the Zanarkand theme in just that one game. Then later works like Blue Dragon felt as uninspired as the soundtracks for the Star Wars prequels. And the Smash Bros Brawl theme (which he wrote) was annoying the first time. Let alone on every menu screen and Battlefield.

In my view, he seems to have gotten tired. Or gave up.
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>>324115345

>Doesn't Sugiyama come from an orchestra background that had nothing to do with games?
He was a music major at Tokyo University and has been writing music for TV and Film since the 1950s. He was a giant in his field even before Dragon Quest.

And it gets even more strange when you learn how he got attached to Dragon Quest. It had nothing to do with his previous works. He just sent a feedback card to Enix for a Shogi game and someone recognized his name.

All the crazy stuff that led to Dragon Quest actually getting made is almost making me a believer in fate.
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>>324115402
And I thought I was the only one who disliked the theme to Brawl.

that fucking choir got so old fast
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>>324115345

>You can be inspired by someone terrible and make far superior outstanding work.
But its only terrible to you. You sound like those types of people who say Cowboy Bebop is amazing while ignoring the Noir movies it took inspiration from for being 'old'.
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>>324115672

>John Williams writes a pompous choir piece for Star Wars Episode I
>gets old real fast
>Uematsu writes a pompous choir piece for Smash Bros Brawl
>gets old real fast
>both of them wrote much better choir pieces in their younger days

I am continually amazed by the similarities.
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>>324115672
>>324116043
I can't even recall it anymore.

Nothing special.
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>>324115672
I love Brawl's theme, but hate its overuse in all the menus and shit

Even then I mostly love it for the lyrics
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>>324116321

AREDAWAAAAAAAAAAA!
HOOOOREDIYUUUUUUUU!

And that's about when I quickly select a fighter to make it stop.
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I really just want to try DQX... All the other MMOs out right now are god-awful
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>>324109057
is the PC version good?
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>>324117251
yes
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>>324108357
Uh yeah get in line pal.
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>>324117251
It hasn't got support for anything >1080p, but it's fine other than that
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>>324115672
>tfw I replaced Brawl's theme on the menu with Tekken Tag 2's customization theme in PM
No one I know likes Brawl's shitty theme.
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>>324113857
>I can recognize them upon hearing them, but I will rarely say any DQ song is actually nice, catchy, or will make me hum along with it.

Funny, I started to think this but in DQ case in my lastest years as a FFfag. I literally think that FF4 has the most memorable ost in the series (following by 3 and 6) the rest are just "yeah, that one theme was great" or overrated shit because "epin latin HUUA lyrics in muh villain theme"

Now this reminds me some days ago, I was playing Theatrhythm Dragon Quest and my sister said me "I don't know what the fuck are you playing but that music is so catchy". Funny enough, my sis doesn't like DQ games so I didn't tell her what game was

btw the theme was Overworld 2 from DQ2
https://youtu.be/qpkdrtlC9w0
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>>324117787
>Heroes has Terry
>We still haven't gotten the remake of his younger adventure
Fucking bullshit.
>>324119348
I actually like FF8 music. Maybe its that he just gotten his synthesizer and felt inspired to have fun. Honestly the only track I don't like is "Eyes on Me".

Also the overworld in Dragon Quest 3 will always be my favorite overworld theme of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb4DV62j5hA
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