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Pick betray anon.

If you pick betray, I'll do aaaaaaaaanything.
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>>324083327
i love how after the ab game she calls you pervert, like "omg what were u thinking" fuckin bitch
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>>324083327
What will be Snake's reaction after hearing her sister dressed like that?
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Hey bro, you've gonna pick ally right? You can trust me
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>>324084525
Uchikoshi wrote ZE to always make you feel like a dipshit no matter what path you go down.

>>324085621
What could go wrong?
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This whole fucking topic is triggering me.
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>>324085735
?
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>>324085685
>Hey, don't blame me, picking betray is the only real option you jerk!
>woooooooooooow why did you pick betray you asshole? I trusted you!
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>>324083327
Fuck you clover you manipulative bitch
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Zero Escape is not a VN. Discuss.
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>>324086245
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>>324086140

It's one of the only times she picks betray, and it's all because of you and your Schrodinger's Cat shenanigans.
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>>324086286
But it's both.
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I wanna fuck Caveman Clover
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>>324086498
She picks betray more than once. The other time she practically kills you if you don't pick betray making her no different than Dio.
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Best girl
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>>324086685

I said "one of". And she apologizes almost immediately after, admitting she was a shit for being so paranoid.
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>>324086140
>that route where Alice breaks down
>Sigma can't fuck her
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BOCK LIKE A CHICKEN
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>That Clover ending
literally outta fucking nowhere
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>>324086697
100% truth right here. The amount of bitchiness/sarcasm in never taken over the top, plus she's not a clueless idiot. She realizes what's going on while you are too.
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>>324086834
>That route where Sigma thinks he is a young alpha male and gets to fuck all the girls since everyone are trapped
>That feeling when Alice cock blocks him so she can commit suicide in front of everyone
Why is Alice such a bitch?
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>>324087074
Nah, that's just finger painting gone wrong anon.
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>>324086520
I agree it's some kind of hybrid between a VN and PnC/Adventure, while I say that Ace Attorney, DR or all related games aren't VNs. Some VN elitists disagree with me though.
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I fucking finally finished this game last week after meaning to for years since I refused to buy a Vita. I eventually settled and got a PSTV for $30 during christmas.

Now I can finally participate in black bar generals.
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>>324086697
Either her or Luna, but I'd have to lean more towards Phi. Nobody else in VLR comes close
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>>324087074
best clover ending
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>>324087380
>Now I can finally participate in black bar generals.
Until ZE3 is released.
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Who here /watch edition/ for Zero Time Dilemma?
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>>324087074
Reminder Luna had to find the dead people, get some blood out of the corpses, roll into it and turn herself off.
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>>324087595
>My face when people won't have all 3 from each game
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>>324087595
I watch.

>>324087727
I wish.
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>>324087621
I don't remember exactly, but did Luna know that Sigma's and Phi's consciousnesses could time travel? Maybe she did it so you wouldn't be suspicious of her when you found out that she was the only one left "alive".
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>>324086659
slat
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>>324087727
Got the watch from 999, the red watch from VLR (working on getting the rest), and already got a watch edition coming my way for ZTD
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/root-double-before-crime-after-days-xtend-edition/
I know,
>Sekai Project
but they don't get any money from the KS anyways.
Fundraising for translating the VN written by the other writer of Ever17 that apparently doesn't reuse the plot twists.
>>324087870
Yeah she knows, that's why she gives you some password when you're about to die in like 10 minutes and in her ending she says something like "Don't you mean something that happened in another history? Isn't that cheating?"
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I wanna slap Akane
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>>324087802
SO.

Is this THE Sigma? Or a clone? What do you guys think?
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>>324087870
I think Luna knows a lot more than she lets on. She didn't seem phased telling Sigma the computer password in Sigma's Ending.
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>>324083327
I'm on the fence if I should play 999. It's only $20 on amazon and the Zero Escape is $30, so I don't see why not. But they're visual novels and while I do really enjoy visual novels they aren't games I get hyped over, unless it was Phoenix Wright.
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>>324088000
Nice trips
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Jesus Christ, I'd forgotten how godawful the 3DCG looked in VLR.

Anyone else like the 2D sprites in 999 better too?
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>>324088161
Get out of this thread and play.
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>>324088000
I wanna slap Akane's perfect butt
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>>324088161
Just emulate 999 and see if you like it.
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>>324088161
Enjoy getting spoiled, faggot.
You're asking for it.
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>>324088243
I don't think anyone likes the models of VLR more.
>>324088161
AA isn't a VN. And 999 is worth it, also Zero Escape is the name of the series, the name of the second game is Virtue's Last Reward. Finally, get the fuck out of here.
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>>324088161
Emulate 999 to see if you like it, buy it if you do. Play VLR if you like 999. ezpz, close the thread so you don't get spoiled since that takes most of the fun out of the games
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>>324088243

Everybody likes the sprites better, but 3d is cheap and is part of what allowed Uchikoshi to pitch the sequels.
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>>324087580

Already pre-ordered the watch edition on amazon the day it was announced, even though I didn't have a vita at the time.
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>>324087727
>tfw too cheap to spend more than $30 on a watch,but still want the ZE watches
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>>324088027

It's ? from the super end of time ending of ends in VLR.
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>>324087989
Huh, I didn't think you could set up a KS if you were located in Japan.
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>>324088665
Is that the ending you get if you do all the puzzle rooms on Hard? I didn't get that one. Is there a link to it?
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>>324088748
Probably somewhere.
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>>324088684
Sekai Project is American
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>>324088243
I love the sprites a lot better but I think the CG works fine
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VLR's true ending was the biggest cocktease of all times. I can't fucking wait
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>>324088660
If you didn't buy the watches as preorder releases then you aren't getting them now. People on ebay want to bend you over forwards and fuck you for one.
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Are both the 3ds and Vita editions of ZTD for Europe digital only?
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>>324088748

I think so, the common theory is that? is actually the player, who has jumped into the consciousness of K/clone sigma, and Akane is talking directly to the player.
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>>324088815
All I can find is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QnI0IAFp94

But it's blurry as fuck.
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>>324089029

That's not a theory. Someone asked Uchikoshi if ? was basically just Blickwinkel, and he said yes.
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>>324088850
Then what does this mean?

I've never actually used KS before.
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>>324089097

What the fuck is Blickwinkel?
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New information when?
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>>324088908
I remember scanning the flowchart after that looking for the next node and that sudden realisation of "oh, it's sequelbait"

Thank god there is going to be a sequel
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>>324089212
Uh, I don't know. Remember to donate.
>>324089314
You.
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>>324089314

Go read Ever 17.
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>>324089589
Should I go through Never 7 first?
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>>324089314
somewhere in this pic
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>>324089589

Been meaning to go through the infinity series, what's considered essential, or which order should I go in?
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>check Uchikoshi's wikipedia page to see what else he's written

>mfw he worked on Pepsi Man
>mfw he worked on "Unknown erotic visual novel"
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>>324089783
Nah its not related but you could if your curious.
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>>324089054
I fucking hate people who put videos up like that. It's fucking disgusting. The camera isn't in focus worth a shit.

Even I have recorded better footage of VLR.
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>>324089783

There are a few nods to it in Ever 17, but they are fairly minor to the overall story and it's overall not necessary to read beforehand. It's also kind of shit, a fairly standard dating sim-esque VN.
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>>324089891
Ever17 then Remember11. honestly they'll probably not be as interesting if you've already played 999 and VLR first.
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>>324089846
I'm sick of reading about chicken sandwiches.
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>>324089891

Read Ever 17, then Remember 11. After that you can read Never 7 if you just absolutely want more Uchikoshi. 12Riven is set in the same universe but doesn't really follow the same threads as the others, and Code 18 is an abomination that should be avoided like the plague.
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>>324090079
it doesn't end pal
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>>324090142
>Code 18 is an abomination that should be avoided like the plague.
Code 18 has nothing to do with the original writers which is probably why it sucks.
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>>324090142
>So instead of having only 9 of each level you get more than double.
TELL ME MORE
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>>324090337
Shit, I meant to paste

>Code 18 is an abomination that should be avoided like the plague.
TELL ME MORE
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>>324090319
I've already finished Ever17. I'm just saying it would be hard to reread the story again in the future because there are repeated dull moments like that.
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>>324090452

It's a game made years after the fact, by none of the same people, set in a different universe, and with terrible writing (featuring a high school setting and a second year protagonist like it's a shitty by-the-numbers anime), but with the Infinity label slapped on it for a reason unknown to anybody other than the developers.
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I
Love
You!
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>>324091201
well which one?
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That Crash Keys twitter account is empty now.
Why is it empty now
Where did the artwork of Sigma go

I know that art is in this thread, but why is that account a gutted corpse now?
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>>324091201
the best one
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>decided to play through 999 and VLR since episode 3 is coming
>play through 999
>liked it, but wasn't really the seeing all the praise
>start up VLR
>right off the back, I'm loving Sigma
>roll call and the already ruin Clover
>so I decide to partner up with Alice for the first room
>at the end of the voting I went with ally, because I wanted to get into them pants
>BETRAY
>"You're stupid for trusting someone you just met"
>fuck this shitty game
>get to end "to be continue" so I went back to the point where I picked ally
>Betrayed that bitch
>ALLY
>"What the hell, Sigma. I thought I could trust you."
>wtf
>Sigma remembers that she pick betray last time and expected her to do it again.
>tfw I knew I was getting myself into a fucking great game
I never seen a game go from 1 to 100 so fucking fast.
Also Siggy>Junpei
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>>324092259
I really liked how Sigma's thoughts actually read alot differently to Junpei's.
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>>324092690
That wasn't Junpei.
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>>324092259

Oh yah, I kind of did the same thing on the alice route when you can ally or betray Phi. All the other routes I went Ally first then betray after endings or whatever, but this time I decided to go Betray. Ends up working perfectly for the story since Phi remembers that you betrayed and chooses betray herself when you jump back to ally.
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>>324087880
Needs more resolution.
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>>324092827
I know, but I didn't feel like spoilers in that post. I still think that was the smartest use of the dual screens I've ever seen
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I played this game for like 45 minutes and it's literally filled to the brim with memes.
Seriously, I only got to the treatment room and I've seen so far:
>forever alone
>you mad?
>gotta grabit jellyfish!

Is the entire game filled with this shit? Literally a meme game.
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>>324093090
*gotta grabit jellyfast

My mistake.
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I wonder how they will top this in Zero TIme Dilemma? I expect even more routes
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>>324093090
Surprisingly I didn't notice any memes, unless I am so out of touch with them, which I'm not bothered by at all if it's the case.
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>finish VLR with all the endings
>replay the first event in the flowchart just for shits and giggles
>mfw "Back off, grandpa!"

The game felt too fucking long, but it was a fun ride.
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>>324094067
That chart was genius. the fact that it ties into how the story works blew my fucking mind
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What the fuck happened to Clover between 999 and VLR?
In first game she had cute design, and actually helped with some puzzles, and wasn't total idiot.
Then in VLR she's totally shit. Why?
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>>324094435
Theres a shitload of that sort of stuff all through the game. the case for the game has sigmas hair tinted white and his eye is glowing
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>>324094515
Japan happened
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>>324094515
Maybe the trauma of failing that one mission just broke her.
Other interpretations include:
- She's acting stupid.
- Alice is a terrible influence.
- Alice is sucking Clover's intelligence out of her.
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>>324094515
trying to be like alice is what I assume. Sort of like she sees her as a role model, so she dresses skimpy and acts like a cunt sometimes
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>>324094515

Clover was always a childish idiot. The only thing people seem to remember about her was the axe ending.
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I just really like this series and I'm glad it's HOPEFULLY getting a solid ending. I'd rather they start a whole new chapter of the infinity series after Zero Time Dilemma and we get some really solid wrap up, if we don't I'll be bummed out. I think I like VLR better than 999 though, the prisoners dilemma aspect was really fun and there were far less throw away characters.
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>>324083327

Clover is really a great girl. She was way better in 999 though.
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>>324094843
You are in a very small group along with me that prefers VLR. 999 had some godlike atmosphere, and probably better characters(not by much) but VLR just has so much going for it I feel. ZTD cant come soon enough cause I think its gonna take the best of both worlds and just slam them together for a 10/10 crazy end to the series
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I've got a million subjective complaints about VLR, but can we all agree that the route locking system was complete shit?

>tension is high as fuck, plot of route is reaching its climax
>TO BE CONTINUED
>"fuck I really wanted to know what happened, oh well"
>3 playthroughs later, find the key for the route lock
>none of the tension is still there, not really interested anymore, resolution just gives me an "oh, huh" instead of being exciting

Just me? I don't think I've ever seen anyone else complain about this. I hope ZTD's writing is tighter so we don't have to deal with this.
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RETURN BEST LEGS
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>>324095160

999 had route locking as well.
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>>324095160
I mean they do the same thing in 999, albiet once with the coffin end. Whenever I knew a lock unlocked I rushed in pretty excited to see what happened. I will say I fucking binged the game so I was never waiting huge periods of time between hitting a lock and unlocking it most times
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>>324095282
>>324095349
>tfw got the Safe Ending first
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>>324095229
>Santa in the engine room
>examine stairs
>"WAIT- THOSE STAIRS! THAT ANGLE! IT'S PERFECT! SOMEONE GET CLOVER OVER HERE QUICK"

That slick son of a bitch
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>>324095282

Wasn't that only one time? I can't really defend it, but that just happened to be the last route I found, so it didn't affect my experience. I guess I got pretty lucky in that regard. But man, it felt like that shit was EVERYWHERE in VLR.
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>>324095445
>tfw got the coffin ending first
>almost broke my ds because I thought it was a short and expensive game
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>>324095621
>tfw getting the coffin ending first
Legit WHATS IN THE BOX moment of my life just sitting there in my chair for a good 10 minutes
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>>324094435
It's pretty subtle.
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>>324094515
Uchi tried to make her more appealing the Japanese audience. It backfired since Japan didn't care about ZE and everyone else seems to hate her new design.
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Years later I still never asked for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFJ1r6_4mW4
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>>324094917
Clover was adorable in 999. In VLR she was just ok. Her whore outfit didn't help.
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>>324083327
ZE3 just won't be the same without Clover.
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>>324096061
Who cares about Clover, we'll get more Phi
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>>324096061

I mean I really like her (for 999 mostly) but if they planned to make her a shit like in ZE it's better this way.

Also it wouldn't make much sense, but WHO KNOWS.
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>>324095456
999 still had route locking. There is no way to get the true ending on the first try. It requires a minimum of 2 plays to "beat".
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>>324096061
I wouldn't be surprised if she made some sort of cameo in the game. She is practically the symbol for the series now.
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I think we all know who best girl is but who is best boy?
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>>324095621
>>324095697
>go with akane first because muh childhood friend
>accept Santa's gift just because
>go with Clover second because her brother was missing, give her the 4 leaf clover
>go with her again because shit was out of control because Snake was "dead"
>Santa betrayed us, he took again Akane
>then remember the coffin
>I immediately used the ingame calculator to get digital rot of Jumpei, Clover, Seven and Snake
>the digital root is 9, IT FUCKING NINE!
>TO BE CONTINUED
I'm glad I'm not the only one who got that ending first.
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>>324095160
>>324095456
Yeah, I think it was a little bit overused.
Having to actually write down some codes to continue was neat, though.

>>324094579
>>324095818
It's the little things.
I also loved when they started talking more and more about the events in 999.

>Tenmyouji talks about Akane and how he has been searching her for years now
>this shit plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQfY47pFNs
>mfw
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post yfw ZTD has glorious sprites instead of shitty cheap-looking 3D models
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>>324094816
Nah the most memorable moment with Clover in 999 is the part where she hugs you in the captain's room.
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>>324096932
>shitty cheap-looking 3D models
Mmmmm. Cheap models.
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And one worry scratched off the list
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>>324097138
When that happened I was expecting a Clover romance route.
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>>324097179
>morphogenetic sorrow
>blue bird lamentation
I can't wait.
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>>324097159
Phi was the only model I enjoyed looking at.
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>>324097179
>tfw he means that they'll just be reusing his old ZE tracks for ZTD

glad he's coming back tho
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>>324097138
>>324097334
She was adorable.
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>>324096932
as much as I'd prefer sprites, the models are not that bad.

>>324097179
Now is his last chance to top this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc1xTLMXbQI&index=7&list=PLDE9265AF4D593BF8
My hopes are high
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>>324097418
I'd expect new tracks and some remixes.
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>>324097449
That's not Blue Bird Lamentation
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>>324094515
She's trying to be more like All Ice
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>>324098191
But anon, that's Alice not All Ice
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>>324098191
I seriously thought she was All Ice when I started playing, her being with Clover just made it seem obvious. Whatever happened to that frozen bitch anyways.
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>>324098191

Never gonna stop being mad about that all ice tease.
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>>324098335
>>324098340
>>324098343
She is the worst character just because of this.
What a waste of character.
Fucking cunt.
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>>324096061
she has been in THREE fucking nonary games

give her a fucking break and let her stay in the ice, christ
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>>324098412

No, she's the worst character because

>betray her
>everybody gets pissed off at you
>she betrays you
>everybody calls you a fucking idiot
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>>324098463
th-that's not what happened in the other...
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>>324098335
yet
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>>324094067
I really hope they make something in the spirit of this, but not as obvious.

I would've been totally okay with just unlocking the chart manually and having it show me when there's a branch, rather than lay out most of the paths from the beginning and pretty much spoil when Ally or Betray's going to get you a Game Over. Some kind of visual aid but one you have to unlock yourself.

Alice's second betrayal lost some impact when I realized the path ended there, but man did it still manage to make me mad. Alice was definitely the worst character in VLR. Heck, I'm willing to say she was more useless than Lotus.

Here's hoping she doesn't indirectly ruin Clover again if she does appear due to time travel shenanigans.

>>324094435
It's funny how I noticed all the old man comments, but figured that Sigma's hair had a grayish tint to it or something thanks to the box art. Then I saw K's ending and I figured it didn't make any sense, then the ending hit me.

I still don't know how to feel about 999 vs VLR. Dio was refreshing and a lot of things were convenient, but 999's sprites and atmosphere are so much better and felt a lot more grounded in reality. Had me convinced with all those morphogenetic field things and patched sock analogies, while Radical-6 and future space terrorist clones all felt odd in comparison.
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>>324098412

Yeah, because it's not like there's another game where she'll likely appear or anything.
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>>324098789

>Lotus
>useless at all

What about her leet haxors? She's also the first one to bring up the concept of morphogenetic fields.
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>>324097370
>blue bird lamentation playing while reading the letter in temyouji's ending
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>>324098789
>Heck, I'm willing to say she was more useless than Lotus.
I think they were both equally useless, only existing so they can do this one complicated thing, but Alice is somehow more of a bitch. Lotus talks about killing people, Alice actually does. I can't wait for the new slutty-looking bitch in ZTD!
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>>324098917
Alice was the first one to give you an idea about Radical-6 so she had SOME plot relevance.
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>>324098789

>patched sock

That shit was fucking bananas, I still think about that every now and then.
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either way the game comes out perfectly and meets and surpasses all your expectations
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>>324099118

[A]. I spent years thinking VLR would never get the sequel that it was created to set up, so a few more years would be nothing. ZTD doesn't even feel real to me.
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>>324098990
Confession plays during that part, not Blue Bird
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>>324099118

A is the obvious answer.
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>>324099118
A. I want to make Uchikoshi smile.
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>>324099118
None of them are a good option
Popular =/= good.
The less worse option is A
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>>324099118
B! Just let it all end please god I want off this ride
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I think VLR is the better one
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>>324099118
B.

play the game like twice and then just access the morphogenetic field and pick A

easy answer

>>324099369
>>324099298
>>324099274
>>324099201
plebs
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>>324099407
You don't need to state a fact like it's an opinion friend
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Am I the only one who thought VLR was kinda shitty compared to 999?

Specially all the lock stuff. I know it's lore related, but it really breaks the rythm of the game, trying to progress in a route and having to leave it for like another 3 or 4 routes.

Also 999 was self-contained and tight as fuck, whilst VLR goes all Earth ruined, on the moon stuff,

Although I loved the Radical-6 diaries.
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>>324099118
B, because I want to see the world burn.

And because probably some other me has chosen A
I want to be in the Bad End
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>>324099041

Lotus was there to work a computer and get kidnapped. Alice did the complicated calculation needed to crack the code, was the one who actually knew about bombs and could inform everybody about it, and took down Dio before Clover fucked up and let him kill himself.
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>>324099431
You've still created an infinite number of realities where Uchikoshi lives a short miserable live, never finds happiness and kills himself only so you can play a game a little early, you fucking monster
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>>324099541
I liked 999 better as an experience, but I still really enjoyed VLR as an extension of that
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>>324099541

Thanks. I already whined about this earlier in the thread, but man those locks are lame. Also the 3D models look awful and the characters are overdesigned/just generally look bad.
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>>324099541
I liked keeping track of a bunch of different situations going on, and learning more about that situation through the other routes. I can definitely see why people would hate that pacing though
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>>324098191

>will never titfuck Alice and cum through her stupid necklace thing.

why even live
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>>324099541
999 has a lock too. 999 also makes you replay the game from the beginning which was more or less a chore even with the fast forward.
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>>324099608
>muh motorcycles

go back to earth tenmyouji
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SIGGY
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>>324099541
I loved the locks. It made it so you were slowly figuring out the mystery, constantly thinking about a bunch of different timelines at once. Then at a certain point, you're just breaking lock after lock, and shit is getting real in half a dozen different timelines.
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>>324099801
PHIDO
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>>324099801
PHIDO
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>>324099903
>zero the third won't be in zero the third but clover probably will be

why live
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>>324099878
I agree it didn't really break up the pacing of the game because you knew about how crazy timelines were because you already beat 999. Going into VLR you were looking for the shenanigans and it totally played to its strengths.
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>>324099903
AMBIDEX GAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMEEEEEE
ROOOOOUUUUNNNDD OOOOONNNNNEEEE
TTTHHHEEEEE REESSUUUUUUUUUULLTTS!
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Lotus' daughters in ZE3 please.
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>>324099739
Hack the game anon.

>>324099996
ZT3 has more porn than any other character. Shit makes no sense.
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>>324099118
Choose B, afterwhich finishing the game I just shoot myself, come back to the intersection and choose A.

Then spoil the entire game on 4chan before it comes out
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>mfw I live in a timeline where ZE3 will actually happen

What a glorious day the announcement was
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>>324099801
>>324099903
Fuck Jr's voice, good thing you only hear that annoying cunt for like one third of the game 3 fucking times
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recently started 999 and it immediately gave me a calculator

am I REALLY going to enjoy this game?
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>>324100214
>mobile version adds flowchart
fuck ye
>removes puzzles
nevermind
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>>324100214
>ZT3 has more porn than any other character. Shit makes no sense.

Fucking furries man
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>>324100314
GET OUT
GET OUT OF THE THREAD FUCKING NOW
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>>324100314
yes now get out so you don't get spoiled

the math isn't that intense at all
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>>324100314
Nice meme. Get out of this thread.

>>324100341
Didn't it also add a bad ending? I still have yet to "play" it.
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>>324100287
I've played the game three times, and each time I go through the Zero Jr. shit in each route ASAP so I never have to hear him again. JP voices too, he's still so fucking annoying.
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>>324100274
WHO NEEDS ZERO ESCAPE WHEN YOU HAVE FAMILY FISHING
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>>324083327
I knew she was going to fuck off and escape if I did that but fuck me it was like the 5th route I was doing and I wanted to see if she'd actually do it.
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>>324100314
You barely have to use it. Does a little bit of possible maths turn you off of a game that badly?
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>>324100314
Yeah. You don't even need the calculator. It's there for retards who can't do basic addition.
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>>324100441
It has a syringe ending if you go through the #3 door I believe
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>>324100314
Calculator isn't used all that much, and even then it's mostly simple number stuff. Also avoid these threads and /v/ just to be safe like the plague until you're done with both games to avoid spoilers.
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>>324100450
This meme is a little too spicy for me
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>>324100520
and people who don't want to deal with that base-16 crap

i love 999 but crackers uchikoshi i'm not a fucking mathamatician, i doubt more than 1% of people who plaid the game understood that
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>>324099541
I don't know how to feel about the locks.

999 only had the one lock, which was to the true ending. VLR was all about the locks, which kind of makes sense, but I agree about the pacing. Went through the Luna route, got stopped at the password, then came back after doing every other route and completely forgot all the small things that happened, I didn't even remember that they met G-OLM in that path (also how have people not found out who voiced G-OLM yet? It drives me nuts), and trying to keep track of who's alive and who's dead was just wait until they shown a flashback of a corpse.

Yet, going through that entire route first would spoil everything, so the lock makes sense. Fastforward would be too obnoxious, but maybe some kind of better summary system when you jump. It's tricky.

So glad I chose Luna as my partner from the very beginning, it paid off more than I imagined it would.
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>>324100682
>base 16 was confusing
How even? Also,
>plaid
I think you might just be dumb.
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>>324100682
I had my brother do 3 of the 999 puzzles for me

his reaction every time was "what is this fucking anime crap" before solving them in like 5 seconds
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>>324100682
>and people who don't want to deal with that base-16 crap
but any integer base is easy.

I will say I've never even heard about digital roots until I played 999. Haven't heard of their use outside of ZE.
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>>324100682
what

Hexadecimal is easy man, I knew what it was way before I played the game
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>>324100341
Terribly optimized port as well, bought it as soon as it launched and it was 2.5 GB

>>324100441
Yeah, in the case when you fuck over Clover and go through Door 3, leaving her behind, she thinks you`re Zero and killed Snake, so she injects you with a syringe and tosses you into the flooded staircase
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>>324100562
Yeah, that's what I heard. One day I'll play the iOS version, maybe.
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>>324088161

Get both. They're great games. They are kinda like Phoenix Wright but with adventuring rooms/figuring out puzzles in the rooms
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>tfw uses the chart to choose which paths I'd do 1st
>started with shortest path and worked my way up to the longest
>tfw felt like the perfect order
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>>324098789
>>324098917

She was also the first who sat down in that creepy chair on the shark room.
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>>324100945
>Yeah
That sounds like it would play out coolly. I just haven't given enough of a damn to play the iOS version.
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>>324100864
This.
I don't know if he just made up that shit or they have any use.
To late to google the answer now that I hit the post button
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>>324087074
I dont get this ending, because it implies that they were infected with radical-6 THAT MAkes them suicidal but weren't they all already infected by radical-6 in the other timelines, in which they ended up fine?
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Wait, in 999 when you get the Submarine ending, who is the one that kills everyone including you?
Assuming everyone actually died and no one was playing dead
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>>324101039
That's because Seven wouldn't fit and Junpei is the protagonist, so he's out of the question. I really liked Lotus though. She played her part well.
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>>324099637
>3D Models

Is my memory tricking me or was this stance used in pretty non fitting moments?
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>>324100575
>tfw learning this the hard way

Well, at least the only things that got spoiled were Luna's death, the truth about Sigma's arms and the fact that you're actually on the moon. I was expecting the last one, anyway
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>>324101242
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_root

I guess it's used for checksums according to this, don't know about any other uses
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>>324094067
Some more endings that aren't just a door closing would be nice. Maybe a variation of all the times you decide to betray and screw yourself over too.
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>>324101375
>assuming everyone actually died
But that's not the case. Ace was playing dead and killed you.
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>>324101375
Ace. I can't remember exactly but you don't check if he's dead when you find his body and Lotus's body is missing her watch (which he could use to escape with the 0 watch he got from the captain's room).
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>>324101375
Ace
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>>324101375
Someone was merely pretending keep playing, it'll be obvious who was eventually
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>>324100287
What were they thinking when they created Jr.?

Was danganronpa popularity so high that they had to do a Monokuma of their own?
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>>324101375
Theories range from Ace doing it and playing dead or the Captain waking up and going on a rampage

I say it's Ace
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>>324101561
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>>324101375
It's Ace. He played dead like you suspected. He's in for a fucking surprise when he uses that submarine.
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>>324100314
Leave now if you care abour spoilers
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>>324101460
Lucky you, I got spoiled on Tenmyouji.

>>324101614
Answered your own question
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>>324101460
I can tell you that one of those spoilers is wrong if that makes you feel better.
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>>324100993
basically going from left to right I had no problems with pacing. most locks for me were unlocked relatively fast
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>>324101740
>tfw predicted Tenmyouji before the reveal
And my mind was still blown. I don't know why, but this was the biggest twist for me.
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I finally got to play VLR few weeks ago and recently finished it. The best thing about this game is writing. There are no major inconsistencies or plot holes, every little detail is important for a plot and each ending is a mindfuck leading to major mindfuck which is a true ending. But when you think about it, everything tied together and makes total sense in the game's universe, it never breaks it's own rules. I wish we had more games as well-written as Zero Escape series. Can't wait for ZTD now.
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>>324101561
>that goblin in clover's clothes
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>>324101242
Well apart from a few links like Wikipedia (>>324101506), I have never *really* seen them used. Shit, even Wikipedia doesn't talk about the history of DR.
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>>324086834
Hey man there's infinite timelines so if you think about it he's actually banged her and infUnite amount
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>>324101561
Thick Akane is kinda cute
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>>324101395
Her mouth is what really irritates me.
She's smiling no matter what, she could be saying or whatever the mood is.

>>324101567
>>324101592
>>324101594
Makes sense, I figured someone must have been actually alive, but I thought I remembered Junpei seeing Santa, Ace, and someone else on the stairs and didn't bother checking any of their bodies and just ran to the Sub room.
Was it actually revealed or explained as Ace? I don't remember reading anything about it, even with getting all the endings.
Maybe I'm just fucked in the head and my memory is shit.
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>>324101740
I guessed about Tenmyouji after he got super sad about the dead woman. Also guessed that she would be Akane, so got lucky on two fronts there
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Which ending felt the most hopeless or discouraging in your opinion?

I still vote for Submarine ending or Clover's ending in VLR.
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>>324086140
If you do them in the right order, Sigma has a reaction like you did.
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How do you feel knowing Japanese gamers don't give any fucks about Zero Escape series?

They know Uchikoshi is a one-trick pony.
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>>324083327
I still haven't finished 999 or VLR but I came here to post this.
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>>324101348
You might not like this answer but rad 6 just overtook them in that timeline. Remember, everyone was affected. Only in 2 timelines does Sigma show symptoms of Rad 6 (Clover and Luna Endings)
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>>324101909
A mixture of Lotus' bracelet missing and some other shit learned in other paths makes it clear that it's Ace.
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>>324101740
Shit. Realizing that Tenmy was Junpei when you find Akane's photo hit me like a truck

>>324101745
Which one?
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>>324101970
Why would I care about what people with shit taste think?
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>>324101561
that Akane is honestly wife material
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>>324101673
Ace pretending to be dead takes on some interesting implications.
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>>324101970
Good because Japs are renowned for having shit taste. Also they're right about Uchikoshi being a one-trick pony as I'm expecting for half the twists in ZE3 to be spoiled for me simply from having played Ever17.
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>>324101970
Jap gamers always had shit taste in vydia
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>>324101820
>that path where Sigma remembers the other route he took and Phi thinks he's fucking insane

what other game could play that into itself
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Can someone explain How akane was in the game when both Seven and Santa witnessed her die in the past. I understand that its a matter of she died because you didnt help her so here you are being led correctly to prevent her death, but I dont understand how she could be alive in this line to prevent her death if seven and santa both saw her burn to bacon crisp. Her playing in the game and creating it means this line junpie saved her and to prevent a paradox shes recreating what happened, but seven saw her die. I could see santa just lying for the sake of his sister if anyone could remotely clear that up that'd be nice
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Did anyone like/understood the color system?

I know your partners are always made clear before you make the choice and enter through a door, but it felt fun doing your little maths in 999 to think who would you exit with or which teams could you make,
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>>324102104
>>hahahahahaㄍ

HE'S A SKIRTMASTER
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>>324102219
I liked the numbers in 999 way more, I'm retarded with colors
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>>324102053
Ah okay, pretty sure Sub was my second ending so I had no idea what was going on initially.
Knife being my first ending, it gave me chills when Junpei turns the corner and sees Lotus just lying there dead, with no music playing.
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>>324085621
I wanted to kick your ass since the 1st encounter.
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>>324102219
It's the most basic of the basic color combinations, how could you not
>>324102324
oh
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>>324101740
Was it one of those "HOW DID WE FROM THIS TO THIS?" thread?

I remember getting spoiler in one of those.

Still hit hard, though. Didn't expect the photo.
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>>324102069
Oh just checked my bad. Thought they were on the mars for some reason.
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>>324101395
Don't be jelly of models anon.

>Is my memory tricking me or was this stance used in pretty non fitting moments?
If you checked out the artbook, you would see that they tried to duplicate her 999 sprites. When the game went 3D, they tried to translate the 2D drawings into models. It didn't work all that well. The artwork would have worked well as sprites in my opinion.
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>>324086697
nochest
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>>324102337
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>>324101796
It's my own fault for picking Alice. I was all curious about her being All Ice.

She was just a bitch.
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>>324102219
I liked them both pretty equally. I tried working out possibilities for the doors early on in 999, but soon stopped because they ran through them for you.
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>>324102198

They didn't see her die and were just "playing along". She didn't die in the past, and had to recreate the events of the game just for that reason. Even on the endings where you don't save her she didn't die in the past since she still would have seen the proper "you saved her" future. One of the timelines where you didn't "save" her was even completely necessary to her being saved since she gave the "you" in another timeline the info she got from that one.
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>>324102180
>how they made Dio so obviously evil to make you think "no way would they make it so obvious" since Ace seemed to be a nice guy but turned out to be evil as fuck.
>that coupled with him saying quark pushed the betray button and there was no way to tell if he was lying or not.
There was a good amount of time where I didn't think Dio was the bad one because of this
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>>324102531
how do you greentext dicks anon
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>>324102337
>>324102531
The wonderful thing about 999 is that finding a dead body of one of the players of the nonary game meant you were already fucked.

The way the game presents the corpses to you is absolutely fucking chilling and I love how it does it. Chill and Rigor is still one of the most memorable tracks ever.
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>>324101938
I love it when you realize that submarine ending is just as discouraging for Ace.

But when you think about it, Safe ending, if seen as it's own, following time line, is grim as hell.
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>>324102219
I liked the number system a lot more.
It was fun going full autism and writing down everything, like possible combination of people can go through what door when I was given a choice and some of the puzzles.
A lot of it could have been done in my head but it wad fun documenting it all.
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>>324102691
Really disappointing that his was the only route with no locks. You are almost certainly going to find him out first and ruin the "who was the killer" mystery for every single other route.
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>>324087595
Is this the name of the new game?
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>>324102663
I understand a good heft of it, but the thing I dont is if seven was in on it with them, like I said, I could see santa being like "yes she was incinerated wah wah" but seven did not seem like he was in on it and legit just had amnesia and then remembered the events of the past. So him saying yes she was burned is the only real plot inconsistency that I don't understand. I could easily go with "akane is basically god and just implanted false memories" as an answer. what a cunt
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>>324102198

Santa was lying, and Seven was in on it, all to preserve the future that Akane saw which would lead to her living.
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>>324102219
I preferred the numbers system because I"m colorblind
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>>324102035
Which of them was the timeline with the "turn off the light" puzzle?
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>>324101970
What I feel is that that is the damn coolest title I have ever seen
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Did anyone else immediately know the guy with the number 9 bracelet was going to die after they introduced the digital root in 999?
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>>324101916
I would have guessed that. The only issue was that I could not reconcile that it was Junpei on account that VLR was "advertised" to take place 2 years after 999. But yeah, there were a lot of hints including the picture of young Akane he had.
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>>324103026
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>>324101970
Don't care. We get closure to ZE.

Then 9 years later after Uchikoshi leaves Spike-Chunsoft, they will make a sequel to the ZE franchise that will be as bad as Code18 apparently is.
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>>324103165
And now he's gone. I really liked the art, just not for ZE, since it was two games of Nishimura and a change in art direction would cause inconsistencies. Not that the new artist is much better in that regard.
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>>324103074
I did when I made the same discovery as Ace in that you could add 9 to any 2 bracelets and it wouldn't effect the digital root.
>Damn that dude's probably going to get stabbed for his bracelet
>5 door closes
I always wanted Junpei to go back and pick it up but of course he never did.

Actually through the first half of the game I didn't even know if the bracelets still worked even after they were removed, as I don't think that was explained. Only how to take them off, not if they worked afterward.
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>>324103165
It's not wrong
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https://youtu.be/pdg_jkK2Byo?t=44s

That fucking music cue made everybody flip the fuck out. God damn I cannot wait for this.
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>>324102219
Fuck the color system. The number system for the doors in 999 was better but I guess they had to change it up in some way.
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>>324103450
Back when I was 10, there was a news article about checking basic addition math by "casting out nines" which was just the same thing. So I already knew about it.
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>>324103450

They would kinda have to work, they would have been fucked otherwise playing the game.
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>>324103450
>Actually through the first half of the game I didn't even know if the bracelets still worked even after they were removed, as I don't think that was explained
It wasn't mentioned in the letter from zero, so most of the characters assumed you couldn't, like when Clover thinks she has narrowed down the combinations of bracelets to just a few. In that instance she doesn't include the number 9 at all.
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>>324102198
Either it was a play or we can use VLR explanation that desitions in the future change the past events.
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>>324103283
Thanks man
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>>324102663

Funny thing that when you go down that timeline of the bad end Akane keeps complaining about her fever, which is her dying in the past from being burnt alive, kind of giving you a hint you are going down the wrong path.
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>>324103648
Not necessarily, from what I remember no matter what ending was being followed, there was always a combination of people still alive to make it out of the 9 door.
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>>324102926
Yes, look it up. >>324087802
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>>324103796
This creeped me the fuck out when I realized it.

Like, at first I asumed she was feeling the Back to the future kind of sickess that stings you when you're being erased from existance, but then I realized she literally gets hot because she's burning alive.

These game can be really creepy when they want to.
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>>324102198
She never dies. When they were playing the game, she was saved. The whole nonary game in 999 was setting up the situation so that they could make sure it ended up happening and she would be saved. So if future you went back in time to give you a $20, at some point in your future you'd need to go back in time to give yourself that $20
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>>324103054
Don't remember
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Here is something else to consider about these games:

None of it really matters. All the bad ends fully exist and there is only one good end. Even if you do stop the disaster from happening in the next game that will just be for that timeline since to even get to that the disaster had to have happened for you to do all the time traveling stuff to be able to prevent it. Not to mention that there already exists tons of timelines where it didn't happen for some other reason. So all you are doing is tying to add one more "good" timeline to an infinite number of possible timelines that already do happen
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>>324087802
Am I the only one dissapointed that this time we know a lot of the participants?
>Sigma
>Phi
>Luna's inspiration
>Dio's brother

And I know I'm forgetting someone.
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>>324083327

What plot points will be recycled for Zero Time Dilemma?

We're already at Blick Winkel, what else
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>>324104130

You think Akane would be doing all this if, in her millions of mental years experiencing timelines, she found a single one where Radical-6 didn't escape?
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>>324104082
>So if future you went back in time to give you a $20, at some point in your future you'd need to go back in time to give yourself that $20

This is an excellent way to put it. It's basically like making sure you don't cause a paradox.
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>>324104082
Best example I can think of this was in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
>Aw man the door's locked
>Wait! Just remember, when this is all over, to go back in time, take your Dad's keys and put them...uh...behind this sign!
>Okay!
>closes eyes
>they check behind the sign
>keys are right there
>Awesome! just remember to put them back or we'll be screwed

Best scene in the movie.
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>>324104130
I know somebody brought this up in VLR and got counter argumented somehow but right now I can't remember.
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>>324103796

That was kind of a dumb plot thing that made me think that the writer didn't actually fully understand how well certain things fit together. The timeline you are in at the very start of the game is one where Akane did not die because she saw you complete the game from the past, along with all the other "bad ends". She never gets any closer to dying in the past in the entire game since the fact that she is alive then and there, and set up that game means that she couldn't have died in the past of the current time you are living it.
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>>324104261
Junpei is a participant as well. I feel the same way, because at the very least we directly know three participants, which removes most of the mystery of whether they're huge dicks or not.
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>>324104130
Yeah, yeah, bikers die. Who cares?

If you are one of the people who can transfer their memories into other timelines, then you shouldn't care. You'll end up in a good timeline, eventually.
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>>324104261

We're getting a dog participant apparently.

But as for those, I don't really see a problem. Phi is a mystery, we know next to nothing about Old Sigma other than that he likes to talk about termites, who knows what the deal with Diana is, and for all we know this Left could be completely different.
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>>324104281
I'm expecting Uchi to make the 3rd game to really happen at 2 separate facilities 9 years apart. Kind of the same shit he did with Ever17
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>>324104261
Junpei was confirmed to be a participant somewhere.

I dont think I mind. even though we know its sigma, its space pirate sigmas mind so he could seemingly act a lot different. Lunas inspiration could be the complete opposite of Luna, we really don't know. I think the only person that will be exactly the same is Phi, and even then, all we know about her is that shes got mind powers and she aint superman
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>>324104429
I believe it's Tenmyouji's biker analogy you're thinking of
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>>324104356

Probably, because we wouldn't have a game without it. I mean what else would she do with her power and knowledge?
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>>324104621
But he already used that in 999 w/. akane
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>>324102887
>but it wad fun documenting it all.
This.
I do this whenever it seems applicable in a puzzle game. I know it made my experience playing Riven many times more enjoyable.
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>>324104621
There has to be some sort of outside the facility type of thing simply because its been confirmed we are getting answers on a lot of shit that really couldn't be explained or learned about from inside. like what happens to most of 999s cast afterwards and what not. whatever does happen, it will be interesting in the least
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>>324104839
Well shit, you are right. Never mind then.
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>tfw no prequel in which you take part in the original nonary game.
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>>324104598
I can't wait to see the dog being ? or something like that.
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>>324104806

The whole point of VLR and ZTD is creating that timeline, because it doesn't exist yet and takes the experience of Sigma, Phi and the player to accomplish moving on to point E instead of just moving on to point D where the world is fucked. That we can believe it into being, because as of yet it doesn't exist.
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>>324104686
She's also not a brahman
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>>324105042
whoever is the main character will be ? because ? is you
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>>324105019
Wouldn't that just be 999 with different characters
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>>324104598
I hope they go the Silent Hill 2 route and have the dog be the mastermind behind Radical 6 and current Nonary game in at least one of the routes.
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>>324105194
Pretty much, and without the murders.
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>>324104356
>>324105094

I'm just waiting for the reason behind that being that she can't find another timeline where it didn't get out because it only got out in timelines where she was alive, because it is caused by the Junpei that saved her/or the Junpei that she pulled the code from in 999.
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>>324105150
>tfw you're the dog
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>>324105194
Ya basically. Might be better to see it unfold as strictly a VN though.

I'd rather see some sort of anime adaptation of 999 though, Depending how it was done, it could be really interesting.

But I'm not going to hold my breath on that.
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>>324105351
Not this shit again.
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>>324101956
I did it the first time
I actually thought the game read the paths I already went through and changed accordingly, but apparently outside of the parts here you have to use info from other routes, it's always the same
I hope the next game will actually do that
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>>324105378
999's gimmick was that one screen was one nonary game and the other was the other
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>>324104391
fucking San Dimas Time is some of the best time travel rules in fiction
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>>324105351
>you make human puns whenever sigma makes cat ones
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>tfw Its not gonna be the same Siggy in ZE3
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>>324105429
If I recall, you have to go Ally->Betray->Ally again
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>>324105479
And your point? I think you could still make it work.
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>>324105673
Yeah you probably could.

I just really liked that twist.
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Friendly reminder than while 999 was pretty good, VLR was literally "I ran out of inspiration so I'm gonna recycle all of Ever17's twists but worse" and ZE3 looks to be more of that.
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>>324105742
No, I'm saying you could still keep the twist too.
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>>324105335

It would also explain why she feels such a need to find a way to fix it.
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>>324105775
More like "Ever17 was shit but had some good ideas and nobody played it, so I'm going to take some of those ideas and put them in a more competent story."
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>>324105429
>>324105561
Oh and if you go betray->ally->betray you get upset with Alice for choosing Ally.
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>>324105561
haha yeah I did that straight away just to see what would happen, love that his reaction changed again
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>>324099118
No. I won't be forced to choose.
I choose the future.
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>>324105916

And why she basically shuns him, which I'm sure turned him into a bitter old man who spent his entire life searching for her in like every timeline instead of at least making him a part of her organization.
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>>324106174
But if you pick nothing it's going to default to A
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>>324105552
>tfw remembering all the peverted shit Sigma said after his reveal
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>>324101319
Nice.

The absolute best is that while others found nicknames for their numbers, he basically just said "Fuck it you know what? This shit is a seven, I'm Seven"
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What code names would you have given Junpei and the ninth man?
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>>324106560
Hand for Junpei
Cat for 9th
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>>324106560
Junpei would have been "Hand"

No idea about 9th man
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i jump as high as i can and start yelling at the other participants
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>>324096932
Is this confirmed?
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>>324106631
>>324106702
Is this what Uchi said? Because hand sounds retarded.
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>>324106631
>Cat for 9th
The irony.
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>>324106784
We don't really know how the game will be in terms of 2D or 3D.

>>324106808
I think Uchi answered this on the Aksys website somewhere.
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>>324106374

How bout that elevator dialog from 999. Knowing that little Akane is viewing the events from your mind so she knows what you are thinking, which means that grown Akane also knows but can't change what she says
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>>324106912
Wasn't that in one of the routes where she dies?
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>>324106912
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>>324096061
Santa will be cosplaying her
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>>324088000

Only for running off at the end of 999 and not giving Junpei closure for like 50 years in a single timeline.
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>>324106808
Yeah, Uchi said hand, alternatively star or penta. For 9th man he said pigeon cause of some wordplay with the japanese name.
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>>324106912
Holy shit, you're right.

That makes it even better.
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>>324107054
It's in every route
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>>324107084
The real question is will K be cosplaying as Sigma?
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>>324102887
This is so damn cute.

Seriously I feel so happy reading over this and cycling through the puzzles, reliving the emotions of figuring them out in a similar fashion.

This is amazing, god bless whoever did this
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>>324107230
That shirt always makes me chuckle
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>>324107274
Me familia.
Working on VLR.
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>>324102887
>needing to write stuff down to get through the puzzles in 999
really?
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>>324107870
>Not constantly writing down or at least calculating digital roots
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>>324107315
>>324107230
Imagining Old Sigma wearing this and trying to look hip is going to break me.
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>>324107984
Digital roots are easy though. Convert them to their digital root, do the math, convert that.
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>>324107649
I want to be your friend anon.

You are an amazing person, do not stop enjoying these things. If you don't mind, I'm gonna save your images though to showcase the kind of experience you should be having with these games.

Careful of spoils though if you're just going through VLR now though man
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>>324107870
>not reading the post
really nigger?

I already explained I was having fun documenting everything even though most of it wasn't necessary (i.e. door combinations, ship travel map, morse code etc.).
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>>324087802

Why does sigma look like a fucking yuppie?
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>yfw this music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68gTs_OE-oY
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>>324108149
gaaaaaaaaaaaaa I kinda agree with you, making notes on paper for VLR was something I haven't had to do for ages, and it felt good aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>324108149
Thanks anon, feel free to save them, I'll be making more throughout VLR and I'll take a picture of that too and share it in another 999/VLR thread in the future.
Like you said it's all about having fun and it really is cool looking back at the notes I've taken throughout the game.
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>>324108440
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>>324105335

After rethinking it, this really seems like the only satisfactory outcome that fits well with the world.

And then the game ends with you going back as Akane and burning alive in the "first" nonary game. No good ending.
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>>324108602
FUCK THIS MIGHT HAPPEN

But what would be a cause for radical six to come about from her just being alive? She wasn't the voice saying that she'd killed 6 billion people
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>>324108440
Ssnake's literally blind he's probably lost like a dummy
>"Y-you better take a look behind Door 3..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuCXb_AVoh4
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>>324108602
Oh my God, I'd sink into a deep, deep depression if that were true.
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>>324108839
999's soundtrack is a masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N32svv9-dH8
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>>324108760

Junpei causes it. More specifically, one of the Junpei's from a timeline that was essential to Akane living. Like the safe ending Junpei. It has to be something like that since it is something that she couldn't change outright or see another timeline where it didn't exist.
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>>324105335
Holy god this is the best and most plausible theory I've ever read. Screencapping. I wish I'd thought of it myself.

It actually makes so much sense. Ties everything into a neat little package, and gives plenty of opportunity to jump back and explain everything around the first nonary games, 999 events, etc. Hell, even the previous two games could have their canon secretly fucked with by time travel shenanigans.

I'm so down for this.
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>>324105479
Wait, what? Seriously??? How did I not realise this. When does it tell you that? I only ever played maybe 35% of that game- one or two endings. What the fuck. Wasn't the bottom screen just puzzle interactions and dialogue? I guess if you're solving the puzzles in the bottom screen, you're controlling June in the past... Holy crap. I'm so ashamed I didn't fully play the first one. That's a fucking brilliant twist and the best way to use the DS I've ever heard of.
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>>324110825
Remember how during the sudoku puzzle you turn your ds upside down? it's because now junpei is on the bottom cause he's solving the puzzle and sending the answer to akane like she was doing for him the whole game.
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>>324110825
In the true ending's sudoku puzzle.

Also, what the fuck are you doing in these threads without completing both 999 and VLR?
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>>324085621
Trusting a guy called Dio & it's not the rockstar
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>>324111132
I just said I didn't play the full game and full routes.

Also I had no idea it was supposed to be Akane solving the puzzles for Junpei. I thought it was the other way around- with the answers you do on the bottom screen being sent through to Akane to help her survive.

So... The bottom screen is Akane solving, which sends the info to Junpei via the morphogenetic field. Then, in the sudoku puzzle in the incinerator... You have to turn your 3ds upside down, so the touch screen solving the puzzle is the top screen, representing Junpei, who sends it back to Akane to save her.

The internal dialogue on the bottom screen is Akane receiving Junpei's train of thought.

Have I got it all right now?
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>>324083327
>tfw almost cried during luna's ending
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>>324111206
:( Because I finished VLR and loved it. I gimped my experience of 999 because I didn't know what Uchikoshi was like. I played through the game, got the Axe ending (fuck you too clover), then was like 'Well THIS was a short ass fucking game' and decided not to play any more. I later heard it had multiple routes, so I did it again and got the sub ending.

From then on, I literally thought "Right, so it's just a bunch of murders and if you make the right random decisions you escape in one of the routes. Snore"

I had no idea it was a cohesive whole. I had no idea it wasn't just typical VL bullshit. I just closed the emulator, then jumped on the wiki to see how it ended, and proceeded to have my brain blown open. I thought I would just get something like "yeah if you pick these doors then the puzzles are slightly different and you go out door 9 the end bye". I didn't know.

I DIDN'T KNOW


I'M SO SORRY
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Rad 6 is the emergence of the morphogenic field at the nevada test site. It's probably like the singularity in the last episode of Star Trek TNG that is formed by time shenanigans where effect is preceding cause. You need the virus to actually interface w/ it and causes the information problems and existenstial breakdown (like what happens in Xenosaga w/ the Zohar emulators) Akane can only move forward so she doesn't know this but Sigma/Blick will find out.
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>>324111469
Pretty much. The reason you didn't see that is because you didn't finish the game. It's cleverly disguised as a traditional third person narrative on the bottom screen. Why are you even in this thread if you didn't finish the game anyway?
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>>324111750
wow you're so basic
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>>324111750
>decided not to play anymore.

I feel so sorry for you, anon. 999 was a wild ride and ya blew it.
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>>324111858
Because I bought, played and loved VLR. Although the atmosphere and storyline of 999 was far superior and had less reliance on gross anime/sci-fi ridiculousness. Shame I didn't do 999 in its native form. :(
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>>324112150
I know :(

I want to go back and replay it, if only for the puzzles I missed, but I know it won't be the same without the mystery and plot driving me forward.
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>>324111846
This doesn't make sense to me. How can radical-6 be the emergence of the morphogenetic field and be a requirement for interfacing with it when the virus isn't released until 2028, which takes place after the events of ZE1?

How would 12 year old Akane have been exposed to radical-6 and be able to interface with future Junpei if it's not released until 2028, after the events of ZE1?

Just genuinely confused here.

Different subject though about Akane and the incinerator..
So it's an effect preceding cause kind of thing, right? Akane doesn't actually die in the incinerator but that's only because she has to set up the events that lead to her being saved in the past? If the future events don't occur as planned she definitely dies and thus those timelines must cease to exist because how can they when Akane exists?

Is Akane a schrodinger's cat deal?
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>>324096061
God dammit I hope Clover isn't in ZE3. Give someone else a chance
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>>324112614
I think the whole radical 6 thing that anon posted is just their fan theory, not canon. It doesn't make any sense.

Everything in the series has Schroedinger's cat shit (even though that whole concept is so thoroughly stupid and debunked and shit- tier, but I won't get on my hobby horse about it here)

Don't burn your brain out trying to resolve timelines. What matters is the Bill And Ted interpretation mentioned earlier- having the keys already be there because they'll remember to put them there when they return to the past.

You've gotta remember that this is all psuedoscientific handwaving to begin with. Timelines splitting and recombining and causality being broken is all bs- what matters is that it SEEMS convincing and produces a powerful story. It's never going to hold up when viewed from every angle- it only needs to hold up when viewed from the perspective of the narrative being told.

If these kinds of stupid paradoxes didn't exist and the timeline garbage DID make sense, then it would by default be possible in real life. It isn't possible or real, ipso facto if you look closely enough you'll see it doesn't make sense.
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>>324092259
Man, I am not sure if this happens just when you pick both options on with Alice, but I went Alice last and I really loved the part where he starts explaining, or rather reasoning the mechanics as to why Tenmyouji and Alice both picked opposite chooses to him and then immediately afterwards he became distraught at his own thoughts about time travel.
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>>324112614
I figure the virus is a way to create espers but its flawed. I'm assuming that the nevada test site is experimenting w/ the morphogenic field in some way since it involves Junpei and Sigma, both users of it.

But you're right on the first part, w/ the "emergence", it's contradictory if you think it through. I'm sleep posting. I was grasping for how the events of ZE2 would affect the past other than sending Sigma back
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>>324094816
I liked being with her during this part.
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>>324104130
Akane is doing this because she is selfish and wants to live in a world where she and Junpei are happy. Perfectly reasonable motivation and it matters cause she can transfer her consciousness across timelines anyway
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>>324095968
>She was created so Kyle would have a woman to love
>Kyle hated her because he thought it was some of his father's experiments
>Luna loved Sigma, but he treated her like a literal object
>All Luna ever wanted was to be loved, and she dies without it
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>>324113354
Fuck I hated the library.
>find a pop up book
>mfw realizing I had to examine every god damn shelf of the whole fucking library
Thank God some of the dialogue was interesting
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>>324112614
>Different subject though about Akane and the incinerator..

Those future events defiantly happen and always have happened in some timeline because she does survive. If they didn't, she wouldn't have had a future point to look at that saved her. The cat is always alive. You getting "bad ends" in 999 didn't cause her to die in the past since the her in the past even used those results to help you save her in the timeline where you did succeed.
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>>324094067
Left route is the best first route. Don't even try to peddle some inferior route.
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>>324113108
>if you look closely enough you'll see it doesn't make sense.
Yeah, fair enough. I'm just the kind of person who likes to examine stories like these from all possible angles so this was something that stumped me but it works in terms of the narrative even if it's not bulletproof.

>>324113193
It might be since it helps with training Sigma and Phi in ZE2. We'll see once the game gets out.

>>324113478
When only 999 was out I thought that Akane simply wanted to save herself and live. Not a bad reason to me since I think anyone else in her situation would do the same thing.

Then after VLR it makes me think that Akane needs to be saved because she serves a greater purpose for the world. She is a key factor in developing the timeline that will prevent the spread of Rad-6 and the annihilation of the world.

The idea that she's just doing it for a happy ending with Junpei seems cheesy to me so I prefer the idea that Akane does it altruistically for the sake of the world.

>>324113652
Oh you're right, I haven't played in a while so I just totally forgot. So it's more like Akane gets to watch all the possible futures without having to actually suffer consequences, she uses it to find the correct one.
Gotcha.
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>>324114171
In 999 I got the sub ending first and in VLR I got Clover's ending first. I'm hoping that in ZE3 I get another mass death ending to start.
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>>324114261
Luna's route gets you mass death. Everyone keeps dying in sequence then K and Dio die together and you don't know what's going on plus you have the bomb revelation dropped on you with no context so you have NO clue what the fuck is going on before ending at a password screen you can't get passed without supplementary info. It's the absolute perfect setup for backtracking the other routes.
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I love You
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>>324107168
Isn't pigeon 'Hato'?
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>>324104496
She got the fever only after the 9th man died though, which could be interpreted as his death not being part of the original plan.
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>>324114507
I don't think the far left line has the bombs mentioned before you hit the password, I played the game left to right and as far as I remember the first mention of bombs was in Dio's ending
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>>324085621
of course I trust you, Dio. We have to stand together against that Quark kid, he seems suspicious!
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>>324111750
This is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Thank you for this experience anon.
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>>324088908
All right niggas help me remember this shit.

So our boy gets flung into the future from point A to point B and in his place comes old Sigma who fucks up at the Nevada Test Site and lives his life up to point D where our boy having lived from B to C during VLR gets sent to D (which is after the failure of old Sigma) where he no has to spend the time from D to B putting together the Rhizome 9 with Akane until he can finally get his time travelling ass sent back to point A where he can tackle the Nevada Test Site with his new powers and hopefully create a new route at E

Is that correct or did I miss something?
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>>324114252
>So it's more like

Exactly. That isn't to say that there aren't timelines where Akane died, but none of them lead to anything we ever see, since 999 is set up in the future of one where she survived. The timeline we play the first game in is one that comes directly from Akane surviving, and then splits into different paths for the game. Much like the timeline for the second game comes directly from the path in the first where Junpei fully succeeded, and then spent 50 (?) years becoming a bitter old man searching for Akane after thinking he would find her right away after the first game.

>>324114782

The fever is one thing that really doesn't make sense, unless it was just Akane faking it to signify something going wrong since nothing you do in 999 makes it so the Akane that is there with you would have died in the past. She lives in the past no mater what ending you get because she is there with you now and set up the game. Endings where you don't save her don't mean she died in the past, in fact they are necessary since she pulls info from one of those endings to give to you in the ending where you were able to complete the game.
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I love the fact I created this thread 7 hours ago and it's still going. Most ZE threads drop out rather quickly so it's nice that it is still hovering around and anons are having fun chatter about ZE.
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>>324087989
>Nakazawa
He's so fucking insane he doesn't need any old twists. I truly believe it was Uchikoshi who managed to keep him in check during Infinity series. Just look at IO for his craziness.
Shame about A', B' and E'. These last three routes left a really bad aftertaste. The game would've been better without them.
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>>324115080
Since it's been a while the intricacies have been lost in my mind but yeah, I think that sums it up.

One thing I do NOT understand is Phi's path through the timeline. Is it failure Phi who talks to Blick Winkel at the end?
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>>324115657
Does anyone have a screenshot of Phi in this pose saying "what the hell are you talking about?"
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>>324116026
>this pose
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>>324098789
Speaking of box art
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>>324116026
>what the hell are you talking about?
About the other writer of Infinity series, Takumi Nakazawa. I was replying to a post about a kickstarer of one of his games. I thought it was obvious from the context.
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>>324116180
I'm tired, I didn't mean to reply to you.
Sorry.
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>>324116137
Speaking of box art, that's... pretty garbage, desu [email protected]

Maybe it would've sold slightly better if the packaging wasn't complete ass
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REAL HUMAN BEAN
AND A REAL HERO
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>>324117072
SCIENCE BOY!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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That feeling when Dio was originally supposed to have raped Clover but it was cut.

;_;
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>>324111750
>played VLR
>didn't understand the routes thing in 999

What the fuck yo.
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>>324116989
How is it bad? I thought it looks quite nice and simple
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>>324117374
>ZE3 is going to be without company meddling and has a proper budget
If we can't have both of those, at least give us the first.
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>>324116098
I love that pose

I love you, Phi
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What did she mean by this?
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>just beat the game and ended up making a thread
>somehow missed this despite checking periodically
Holy fuck that ending. If I'm not completely retarded, my -the player's- consciousness just slipped into K's body, correct?

And fuck everyone for betraying you every goddamn time sans Luna and the times after I went back to choose betray.
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>>324117761
That she's not a man.
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>>324111750
How did you play all of VLR and arrived at 999 thinking it would be basic and straightforward?
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>>324098191
So is Alice really a mummy?
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>>324098662
>choose Cyan door first, like in demo
>ally with her, she betrays me
>go back
>this happens
>YOOOOOOOO
This really set the tone for the rest of the game.
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>>324117761
Phi a cute
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>>324117820
She has the chest of a man.
>>324117853
Word of God is maybe
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>>324117853
shes an ice cube anon
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>>324117689
Well he already said it's going to be closer to 999 in tone so they're at least letting him do more than they did for VLR.
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When are they showing more of Zero Time Dilemma? Do you think they will even show all of the participants before the release this time?
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I got the true ending, but I just didn't feel like going back and reading the thing afterwards that unlocks

Is there any point in it? It's just a bit of a snooze fest after that long ass ending.
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>>324118067
why would you go looking at spoilers for a mystery game?
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So did anyone else really like the English voice acting, Zero Jr aside? Quark sounds a little slow and Phi's voice was a little grating at first, but other than that I thought everyone put on a really good performance.

Fuck the voice acting for Zero Jr so much, I thank the Holy Father that he wasn't relevant after the first AB game.
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>>324117936
That is literally the perfect breastsize.
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>>324118130
Your loss.
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>>324118204
Alice was a bit inconsistent at times
>WHAT THE HELL, This is important stuff, why didn't you tell us this earlier

could have used another take
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>>324118204
Zero Jr was great because that VA fucking nailed the annoying mascot character.
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>>324118204
SIGGY
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