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Why the fuck do people like this game

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Why the fuck do people like this game
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>>324045985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whhrh1Lgbs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjjKSJFz68s
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>>324045985
Pretty innovative at the time. Pinnacle of autistic modding communities. Lore is interesting.

It's shit by itself today, like most of Bethesda's games.
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It makes me feel hardcore.

Nowadays I play Dark Souls for that though.
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>>324046324
What if I like the vanilla games, except Morrowind?
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You feel like you're going on a big adventure in a strange world
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Big Alien World full of mysteries and story to you discover.
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>>324046553
A bullet in your brain
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YOU WILL SUFFER GREATLY
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>>324046867
What a /v/ response
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>>324046929
Hey look we're on /v/.
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>>324046905
STOOPID
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>>324045985

Shut up n'wah
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfpJxUFev8

You ready for Morrowind multiplayer?
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>>324045985
Because i was 12. I didnĀ“t understand enough english and it took me 4 hours to get from seyda neen to Balmora.

And i enjoyed every second of it
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>>324045985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l83vT2svg3g
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>>324046905
Die fetcher!
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>>324045985
Somebody just start posting ahnassi already.
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>>324047173
For the love of god please don't die. I've been waiting for this for 10+ years.
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>>324047173
>in a few weeks a morrowind mod has gotten farther than pretty much every single other project has in years

Astounding what open source can do.
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>>324045985
It's one of the few fantasy worlds in video games that doesn't feel like they just made Not LotR.
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top tier open world design
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>>324047664
special
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>>324045985
Fun things are fun
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>>324047173
is Broventure finally going to happen?
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This is my favorite game.
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>>324047173
Back in the day, i bugged my parents so much to buy me a Xbox because i tought that the Xbox version had multiplayer. Now it's finally happening and is on PC.
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>>324049076
No.
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>>324045985
It has more depth and content than Oblivion and Skyrim and the world is more intriguing.

Oblivion is still the comfiest of all of them though.
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>>324045985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLFHqmUH_4
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>>324049317
Get back to your train mods, fuckface.
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>>324049447
>more depth

miss, miss, miss, spell fizzle.
Yeah great "depth"
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>>324047173
MAH
DICK
>C++
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>>324049534
Also no.
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>>324046245
>that OST
I really regret having played Morrowing a lot, but never finished it.
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>>324049447
Honestly, I thought Oblivion was the best of the series.
I dont see any more depth in the Morrowind questlines than the Oblivion questlines. Actually Oblivion had some of the best questlines of the series.

The main complaint is that Cyrodil is boring, but If you actually explore it its fairly diverse and Shivering isles was a legitimately interesting location/expansion.

I honestly think its just elf fags who say Morrowind was better. If you don't have an elf fetish there is no way Oblivion wasn't the most complete experience.

t. unpopular opinion
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thread theme
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>>324049086
>there will never be another like it
I hope bethesda never decides to visit iliac bay again. They're just going to ruin everything.
>no nymphs
>no daedra seducers
>no prostitutes
>no temple factions to each divine
>no knightly orders
>no spell making
>no class customization
>no reputation
Imagine a TES: Highrock or Hammerfall. Shit's going to be a casual snorefest with barebones quests, factions, and practically zero character creation apart from facegen.
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>>324050008
>t.
what does this mean
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>>324050008
Cyrodil is boring yeah but let's be fair, it's the capital of the Empire. were we supposed to expect some hostile, frigid environment?
>>324050132
took me a while to find out and I'm not even a newfag. means "authored by" or "posted by"
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>>324050130
Yeah, Bethesda has demonstrated that they can try less and less each time and get away with it. TESVI is going to be a shallow game with some focus on crafting and settlement building I bet.
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>>324049629
Not our fault if you can't pay attention to number.
people with 5 in axe 30 strength and agility trynna be strong boi.
Guess dafuck happens you stupid N'wah.
go back to the boat you came from.
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>>324045985

I remember it being amazing when it came out. For me its probably at the exact limit where graphics get too bad for me. Any worse 3d graphics than Morrowind, and it doesnt look good for me.

The game still holds up RPG wise. Its very immersive, and modded its an almost perfect game in my opinion. It has several issues however, like Beteshda tier animations which are incredible shit. Beteshda really needs to get a grip on that. NPCs are just tour guides (this is fixed by one of my favourite mods that makes litearlly every NPC unique. They spent years making unique dialogue for every NPC), and there are no interesting random encounters without mods.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRTUReLBWHA&list=PL7En5ohTjD_X_1ry7kKoblLPDknNYlNEx&index=37
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>>324050309
Bethesda is like David Bowie in a way.
They keep adapting to the taste of the time.
That's why crafting bullshit is so prevalent in Skyrim/F4.
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>>324050008
Shivering Isles was so good.
Crazy how memorable it is I can recall alot of thing unlike skyrim for example.
Too bad we will never get something similar anymore , they raped bloodmoon so hard what a shame.
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>>324050309
>Bethesda has demonstrated that they can try less and less each time and get away with it.

I couldnt agree more with this sentiment. Its painfully obvious. They keep getting away with it though because they have no real competition in that particular genre.
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>>324050638
>didn't like Dragonborn
Dragonborn was amazing
>apocrypha and its weird space-anomaly dungeons
>that one dwemer dungeon with the giant moving gears you had to fight on
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>>324050801
Dragonborn certainly had the best levels out of any TES, expansion pack or otherwise
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>>324049810
Kill yourself namefag
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>>324050008
The world in Morrowind had so much more depth and variety. The questlines and the world is also more open ended. Hell the main questline guy even tells to go off and explore a bit before continuing.
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>>324045985
Dragon's Dogma may not be the prettiest game but it's fun OP. give it a chance you'll like it
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>>324050962
New to TES threads I take it?
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>>324050671
The problem is they refuse to hire anyone like modders, and still have their lead animator as the guy who just knew Todd in college
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>>324050638
>that long as fuck dungeon
>all those encumbrance debuffs
im never forgetting that hellhole
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>>324051254

They are really holding themselves back, but what the hell, looks like it doesnt matter. Their games still sell like hotmemes. Todd should just make his friend a "supervisor" or """"consultant"""""" with no real power, so he can keep him around to remniscence about college days while not fucking their shit up.
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>>324051254
>>324051613
I think the animations in Skyrim and F4 are significantly better than any past ones.
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>>324051613
if anything, normies will have a laugh at terrible animation and accept it
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>>324050801
>>324050947
It was cool I give you that.
But why the dwemer ship is in the middle of the map why the willage is still at the same place?
Where is Hircine daedric hunting ground? he gone.
and how can you fuck up a treasure that hard holy fuck.
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>>324050132
finnish word terveisin / "regards"
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>>324051956
Hircine's hunting grounds blew up
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>>324045985
Cons:
>walk around
>feels like i'm walking in peanut butter
>jumping, crouching and movement feels so fake and alien
>get stuck on random bits of stiff geometry
>stiff, bad animations
>shit draw distance
>PINK FOG
>shit combat (stat based CRPG's have done RPG combat much better before and since morrowind.)
>tiny world, only felt so big because you walk so slowly and the draw distance was shit (get the graphics overhaul and see just how small it actually is)
>NPC's don't have lives. They just stand around waiting for you to interact with them

Pros
>Art design of weapons and armor was pretty sweet
>Music was top notch
>Interiors were typically very nice
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>>324045985
Bethesda actually spend the effort to do the world building and lore in Morrowind.
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>>324050593
>They keep adapting

>8 way run/walk animations have been around since syphon filter
>they kept using the same garbage shadowing system since Morrowind which can only have 2-3 shadows on an object at once
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>>324051093
>giving a shitty modder/eceleb unneeded attention
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>>324054106
Like you're doing right now?
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>>324049498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lo0qD6rOz8

THE TRUE MORROWIND EXPERIENCE
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>>324054232
>didn't reply to him
>didn't even mention his name
Congrats. You're retarded.
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>>324054381
Your first post in this thread was telling him to kill himself. You are giving more attention to him.

Keep going.
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>>324050205
Cyrodil was supposed to be a jungle.
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>>324054550
>>didn't reply to him
>>didn't even mention his name
Are you mentally handicapped? It's obvious I'm not even the same guy.

But keep going. I need a good laugh.
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>>324054831
Why do you want to give Trainwiz more attention continuing this?

How stupid can you be?
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>>324046663
Meanwhile LOTR feels like the same old shit we've seen for a decade
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUXiwNSkpYA
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>>324051093
>namefags are okay
never
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>>324045985
>that sweet ass pimp walk
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>>324055002
I'm not giving anyone attention but you. I'm playing you bro. You keep replying with the most retarded shit and giving me giggles.
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Old games have a comfiness new games simply lack tbqh me familia
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>>324055337
But you see, I'm the one playing you. You fell for it perfectly.

You will learn from this one day, sport. When you grow up you will look back on this and realize the truth of what has happened to you in your life.

Good luck and God bless.
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>>324055074
Because it's a building block that supports all of that same old shit
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>>324055635
More please.
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>>324055625
>AC
my nigga
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>>324050205
>Cyrodil is boring yeah but let's be fair, it's the capital of the Empire. were we supposed to expect some hostile, frigid environment?
It was disappointing primarily because Cyrodiil was already very fleshed out in the lore as early as 1998, and Oblivion's representation of it ignored nearly all of it and gave us LotR instead. Obviously there's some things that would have been technologically impractical such as the talking hedges with choruses of birds or the Moth Priests' explosive moth beards, but it's strange that almost none of the culture was preserved, and the differences between Colovia and the Nibenay was far too subtle.

It's a bit ironic that Cyrodiil is by far the province of Tamriel most closely associated with dragons, yet it wasn't until Skyrim, which previously had almost nothing to do with the creatures, that we got a game focused around them.

That said, I still like Oblivion despite the blandification of its environments. At the very least they did recognize that they were changing the world a lot from what we had expected. I often hear people say that it wasn't until Skyrim (Heimskr's quote) that the CHIM explanation became canon, but it's worth mentioning that even Oblivion itself had the explanation for why the game world was so different from the lore:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Mythic_Dawn_Commentaries
>CHIM. Those who know it can reshape the land. Witness the home of the Red King Once Jungled.
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>>324055074
That's so fucking dumb to say. You're talking about the Lethal Weapon of fantasy. Of course its the same old shit for a fucking decade.
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>>324055074
Words cannot express how fucking stupid this post is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lyKxKn_WsE
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>>324050205
>Cyrodil is boring yeah but let's be fair, it's the capital of the Empire. were we supposed to expect some hostile, frigid environment?

I bet you play fucking ESO you scum
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>>324050801
I never made it to the Oblivion parts, the Solstheim section was just so insultingly bad.
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>>324060537
Why? They were okay.
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>>324055074

Nice.
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>>324045985
Huge world, lots of stuff you can do, interesting quests, good visuals, lots of lore.

Shit combat that hasn't aged well whatsoever.
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>>324055074
>1954

It's not LOTR's fault that modern fantasy rips everything off it
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>>324055625
>actually using a wiki
fucking digusting
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>>324060537
The Solstheim parts were some of the better stuff though
>those netches
>hearing the silt strider call again
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>>324062785
Fortunately there's mods for the last part and now people are making strides on stuff like that in OpenMW.
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>>324065578
>OpenMW

W H E N
H
E
N
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>>324065928
Already feature complete and fully playable, and the next version (0.38) and confirmed officially faster than the original engine. Most mods work with it too.
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>>324066240
> the next version (0.38)

W H E N
H H
E E
N N
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>>324066462
According to the roadmap it's 97% done
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>>324045985
Beats me. I always enjoyed Gothic more.
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>speed in morrowind

https://youtu.be/9QBF-uqqF1M?t=2m4s
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>>324050593
Well alchemy was pretty complex having different ingredients and effects that was really the only good crafting system but got put up on the chopping block because it was abuse-able.
The smith weapon/armor crafting thing is a hold over of sandbox MMO's from like 15 years ago. You can't even change the colors on it your making the same basic thing that's totally cheap and common on every npc and most of it is shit low tier stuff that's going to disappear and be obsolete like why would you want to screw up the level scaling in the game for the trade off of being able to make iron or steel swords when they are useless common loot. Not to mention Skyrim cut down on the armor slots even like there was 4 of them it really needed an entire crafting system for 4 items?
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>>324066773
>that pic
stop living in 2002 my man
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>>324046929
You're wasting your time. Anyone who cared about the quality of this board already left.
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>>324067438
>those rocks
>that sky
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>>324067438
Mods can't change the awful combat. This is a problem with most Bethesda games, they sell like crazy and so Todd knows that as long as modding tools are out, the community will finish the product for them.

Problem is, that only worked for Fallout: New Vegas so far. Read: a good game.
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>>324067640
>Mods can't change the awful combat
With OpenMW they can.
Theoretically.
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>>324067509
>he thinks that sky looks bad
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>>324045985

It doesn't hold your hand like most modern games, requiring you to use your brain, something I'm sure you're not used to.
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>>324067640
Current mods can alleviate it and make it tolerable, while OpenMW can easily allow for even more in-depth changes.
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>>324067689
I'm not ready to give Morrowind another try. Gave up after the fifth time, last time.
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>>324067689
If anyone even bothers. I think OpenMW is a great idea but honestly the Morrowind modding community died 10 years ago.
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>>324067696
The clouds are pretty bad mate.
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>>324045985

why the fuck does anyone like any bethesda game is what I've always wobdered
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>>324055635

>I'm only pretending to be retarded!
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>>324067829
Honestly it's the opposite. Ten years ago Morrowind's modding community was a shitheap. It's only fairly recently that truly good things have started to emerge. It's not as big as Skyrim, but it still gets several hundred mods a year.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLFHqmUH_4
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>>324067829
I think it still has a decent modding community.
Skyrim might be bigger, but most of it is ENB and waifu shit.
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>>324055074
7/10 bait

People fell for it.
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>>324067860
Those clouds exists in real life and are pretty common you know
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>>324050008
I agree. Replaying oblivion goty right now, vanilla. Loving it. Quite possibly the greatest rpg I've ever played, even with the retarded leveling / scaling
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>>324055101

that voice insults the video more than the game
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>>324068626
Real life is shit too.
Why emulate it.
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>>324068892
If it's so shit why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>324068989
Waiting for a MW VR mod so I can have sex with my argonian slave harem.
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>>324049747
>we will never get open Morrowind written in D
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>>324069268
Good riddance. It used to be written in D but changed when nobody knew D.
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>>324045985

So, it was brown and grey ugly shit, and it was completley broken on release...

Fuck sake, Morrowind ushered in the age of modern day gaming!
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>>324050008

>everyone sounds the same
>everyone talks about the same fucking things
>the loot sucks and can't be used for anything fun
>magic is shitty
>no sense of urgency to the apocalyptic main quest
>tiny as dicks, ugly, barren main city hub
>no trafic anywhere except guards, couriers and M'aiq
>people's routines consists on sitting on different places
>the flora and fauna look horridly fake, tacky and nonsensical
>the lake is smaller than the pond on a golf club
>imperial everything looks boring and uninspired
>most NPCs have zero race identity
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>>324069350
The game industry will perpetually remain beholden to C++'s clunkyness and never embrace anything that allows the full expressiveness that is possible with zero cost abstractions, simply because it's such a bitch to do anything with them in C++.

Just looking at the source code of the Source engine is painful when you see how much manual indirection is needed when you go full C++.
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>>324046324
>pinnacle
That's not Doom.
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>>324067640
But no matter how much Todd butcher his games, they still have more content than all rpg put together.
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>>324047173
I can feel it.
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>>324053995
As that anon said, they keep adapting to the industry. Most consumers don't care about the things you listed, they only bought Skyrim because DUDE EPIC DRAGONS LMAO.
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>>324050008
completely agree. Quests are what make a tes game imo, almost all of Oblivion's quests were unforgettable and the number of fetch quests could probably be counted on one hand. While Morrowind is still my second favourite game and it had a far better main story, its guild quests felt inconsequential and too similar to average side quests rather than being self contained stories as Oblivion's were
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If I want a vanilla first time experience with morrowind what do I need to install?
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>>324074852
Morrowind
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I want the Morrowind experience with less bullshit.
Thus I play Neverwinter or Fallout.
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>>324045985
It was the first ope world rpg for many nostalgiafags out there, that's why.

I find it disgusting really, specially the combat.

>inb4 don't know what stamina is for

Yeah, no, fuck off, if i'm pointing to hit something i like to actually hit where i'm pointing.
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>>324075801
Redguard did swordplay better than Morrowind and it's way older.
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>>324075648
what exactly do you mean by "bullshit"?
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>>324045985
because they haven't played gothic
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>>324055074
I'm gonna tell it to you straight.

I lol'd.
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