The Division downgrade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3T 9W2usuzc

What a surprise that Ubisoft didn't deliver.

>>324042003
>>324042003

Bullet Sponge enemies.

FUN!

MMO with guns

I thought Ubisoft learned not to do this after Watch Dogs!

>>324042003
>muh downgrade

why do you even care at this point

why are you even phased by it

get over it

reminder there are some on /v/ who were holding out for this LOL

>>324042207
good goy

>>324042003
it's a ubisoft game

it was going to be shit anyway

why do you care

>downgrade
>ahh shitty ubisoft didnt deliver again

>no downgrade
>baahh! WHY DOES THIS RUNS LIKE SHIT ONY MY CONSOLE/POORFAG PC?!!!
>FUCK UBISOFT

everytime

>>324042321

Not the man you're replying too but graphics < everything else. You should know that by now

> our enemies are different. You can't run and gun in this game. Please buy.

When has this statement ever been true in any single player shooting game?

>Ubisoft
come on man, it was obvious

>>324042003
That's on Xbox
Trailer was on PC
You really think they could mooch off of console retards if they saw how shit their games look right away?

>>324042458
People ALWAYS find something to bitch about
EVEYRTIME. No matter the topic, someone always finds something he can whine about

inb4
>hur dur shill xD

>>324042460
So it's okay to lie and falsely advertise an aspect of a product as long as you and maybe a couple of other people find this particular aspect unimportant?

>>324042458
Actually it's
>gets downgraded
>still runs like shit

Still gonna be fun with friends.....

>>324042003
Considering this is Ubisoft more than the shitty graphics people should be worrying about the game being functional.

I knew it'll be shit from first trailer.
I knew it'll be downgraded from the first trailer.
Yet now everyone will sound surprised like they expected something.

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>>324042003
>watch first gameplay video
>car and cover getting riddled with bullets
>honestly the effect is better than any other game and strikes a perfect balance between realism and 'coolness factor'
>animations look great
>enemy AI is being vaguely tactical
>mfw he shoots a guy in the head and a number pops up and detracts from his health bar

This game can go fuck itself.

>>324044091
You dare use that word around here, you heretic!

>>324042458
Games like battlefield/crysis without downgrade always used to run fine with good optimization.

>>324044091
Every game is fun with friends though.

>>324044493

>crysis ran good

kek

>>324042003
>>324042003
>Bullet Sponges: The Game
>Ned Pansy name on it, so it features evil communists at some point
>Uplay
>Game not available in English in my region
You can go fuck yourself, ubisoft.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz81EWn8I9o

TPS with bullet sponge enemies

we already have that

and it's shit

ESCAPE FROM T A R K O V
A
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>Defending Ubisoft

So everyone is actually happy with getting Siege instead of Patriots? I guess you guys really are CS:GO mongoloids.

>>324045569
inb4 scam
that initial shitstorm though

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>>324042003
>borderlands style bulletsponge enemies in a game with a realistic setting and tone

How is this acceptable?

>>324045597
>attacking valve
you don't belong here

>>324042003
Looks worse graphically. Still looks fun though.

>>324045809
Valve raped my dad.

How is this game not out yet? Surely if Ubisoft can shit out an Assassin's Creed game every year it shouldn't take them five years to make an ugly TPS game for consoles.

>>324043798
How about they have a realistic estimate of how the game is gonna look like instead of showing us bullshots to hype the game? That way no one would bitch about downgrade or the fact that it can't run on a console/low-end PC.

>>324042003
Yeah we know, there was an insider who came out and said before this preview that the game had already been significantly altered to make sure PC and consoles don't look too different visually.

>>324042205
They did it with unity, syndicate, and far cry 4 since watch dogs, you dang Dingus

>>324042460

No. The Division had great atmosphere and now it's ruined. They lost my money.

Atmosphere > everything else, in games, literature, film, music, etc.

>don't give a shit about downgrade
>actually listen to what the game is about
>bullet sponges
lol no thanks

I've heard people say that this is a destiny clone. Any truth?

>>324046232
watch the video

Graphics look pretty poo, even for current gen consoles.

Game actually looks like a good idea and a lot of fun to play with friends. Only massive downside is the massive bulletsponge enemies that they seem to have stocked the game with.

>>324042205
>>324042090
>>324042407
>>324042458
>>324043582
Everyone who keeps saying UBISOFT LOL AS EXPECTED

do you seriously think Ubisoft wants their games to look like shit? you seriously don't even consider the publishers to be at fault in any way?

time and time again it has been proven that publishers are afraid of PC versions cannibalizing console sales due to superior tech. therefore, many features are deliberately disabled so that both versions look roughly the same. if the console chugs or framerate dips on console, those elements will be removed from both versions to ensure the consumer feels like they will get the same product regardless of platform.

only spergs like /v/ notice downgrades in the final product. normies will buy them and never care that there is less fancy lighting or no dynamic shadows or whatever

they will just be happy when they push the button and he shoot the gun, that's all publishers are aiming to satisfy when it comes to ubisoft

the devs at ubi would obviously not want to strip down their own creation. they aren't given a choice in the matter, meet the deadline or you're fired

>>324044091
even the shittiest games are fun with friends

To be fair Rainbow Six Siege is an incredibly solid game.

>>324046514
Well, they fired a lot of people then

>>324046232
pretty much the same idea yeah. The only difference is that instead of the crucible you have a medium sized pvp area that acts like a mini version of day z with some extra features

>>324043798
MGS V
Looks better than this and runs on laptops.

>>324046514
Either deliver what you promised or don't promise that.
Only Hitler is allowed to do that, senpai.

Why does GTA V on PS4/Xbox One (a game built for last gen fucking hardware) look better than this? Are Ubisoft developers literally retarded?

>>324046843
rockstar has been always known to be crazy good at optimizing their own engines. It's still a mystery to me that gtav runs pretty good on the 360

>>324046373
>>324046759
fugg not this shit again

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>>324046843
Yes.
And Rockstar's pretty damn good.

>>324046843
It doesn't

>>324042003
>Enemies literally can withstand 30 bullets from close range

wow...

>>324045995
>oh my god, there's no trash moving with the wind. Immersion ruined now.

How has the atmosphere changed? Everything is the same pretty much except the graphics

>>324046842
In an ideal world that would be the law, yes.

Unfortunately the people who actually develop (as in code, render, stay up all night bugfixing, etc) AAA games are basically a step above slave labor and are at all times obligated to obey the unreasonable demands of publishers, investors, and sometimes even a project leader who brings everything to a halt because he/she is not satisfied with something and won't sign off on anymore milestones until their autism is satisfied

>>324047060

whatever you say bud
https://youtu.be/d74REG039Dk?t=599

i want urban exploration, is this urban exploration?

>>324042458
then make it look nice and run good?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rtDjZADidc

JUST

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>>324047038
>rockstar has been always known to be crazy good at optimizing their own engines
>GTA IV at PC launch

>>324047083
>it's a tactical game so it has to be realistic

It's first and foremost a RPG. You complain about how it's unrealistic for enemies to eat all those bullets yet you say nothing about how you yourself can withstand the same amount of bullets.

Get over it.

>>324047149

"Trash moving in the wind" is a bigger deal than you're making it out to be. ALL the little details are gone. Light shining through bullet holes. Haze, smoke in the air. Texture detail looks last gen. Lighting is bland. Even the animations look shit compared to the original trailers too.

If all you care about is gameplay just play Destiny I guess, it's a better version of this MMO-style garbage than The Division will ever be.

>>324042003
I know for a fact Ubisoft wants to make good games.

I mean, they made Rayman Legends, so they must be at least partially competent.

>>324047440
>literally 3 magazines of 20 to 30 bullets to kill a guy from 20feet distance

wtf man

>>324047575
You're probably one of those autistic faggots who spends 20 minutes per square foot looking at shit.

>>324047548
kinda ruins the fun, 3 bullets to the head should be sufficient for every shooter out there

seriously these guys withstand an entire magazine from close range.. Now I dont want instagib, but there is a limit man

>>324047440
>atleast 20 bullest to kill an enemy
wtf

>>324047738

I don't know why you're defending Ubisoft. Graphics matter to you too, otherwise you wouldn't even need a next-gen system. Gameplay hasn't changed dramatically since like 1995.

>>324047851
20? I counted multiple magazines

more like 100 bullets to kill an enemy from close range

so a firefight with 10 guys or so would require hundreds of bullets, this is fucking bullshit man

>>324047575
>if all you care about is gameplay

You make it sound like gameplay is bad, it isn't. Gameplay > everything else. Also you can not say Destiny is better when you clearly haven't played Division. I swear, people get the biggest hard ons from hating on a game and ironically, they haven't played it but hey welcome to /v/ I guess...

>>324047038
It's still a mystery to me that gtav runs pretty good on the 360
>5-24fps
>no shadows
>no lighting
>5 times less draw distance than next gen console, which is 5 times less than pc version
>3/4 of the static objects are removed
>no foliage
>720p
>minecraft tier textures
>npc pop in literally in front of you

GTAV runs like shit on PS4, last gen version is a disaster.

>>324048028

I can get good gameplay from the N64 bruv. I want good gameplay + good atmosphere. Ubisoft games don't offer that apparently. Kill you're self.

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I like the idea of "The Dark Zone" though: a PvP concentrated area that hosts some of the best loot in the game versus the risk of getting ganked hard and losing it all.

Might b cool.

>>324042003

>implying anyone's surprised

>>324047548
Tactical Shooters and RPG's do not mix well, either it stops being a tactical shooter or the RPG part is largely ignored.

So congratulations, in this bastard child we got a shitty tactical shooter and a mediocre RPG. Hope you preordered.

https://youtu.be/6wlvYh0h63k?t=18

how did we go from this...

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that gameplay looks like absolute dogshit.

i assumed it was gonna be a kind of multiplayer survival thing and now it's a third person shooter mmorpg

Into the trash it goes, to be expected of ubisoft

>>324047865
Graphics do matter to a certain point I guess, but the game honestly doesn't look bad to me. I'm not defending Ubisoft, I'm just baffled on how you think the atmosphere has drastically changed.

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>>324048280
to this

>>324048186
>i like the idea of basically every free pvp zone ever
plenty of survival multiplayer games out there that aren't worthless 'rpg's

>>324048396

I can't put it down to minute graphical details, I can't tell you exactly why it looks bad, it just does imo. The original reveal had a true NYC vibe, a really good sense of place, this just looks like a cartoon to me. Looks like a last gen title.

Don't act like I'm the only one, there wouldn't be this much of an outrage if people didn't think there was a big difference

>>324042321
Only way to show them that it's Bullshit and stop them from doing it, is to not buy it. But you and everyone else will at some point so they have 0 reason to stop until they see that sweet bank account empty.

>>324045597
Patriots is basically a mix of both, isn't? Siege was made after their original plan for the hostage situations and other in-door sections of the game, perhaps even Multiplayer. The Division seems to have borrowed some story elements from the rough draft of patriots and taken them in a different direction.

We'll never know, though, because now that Tom has died we won't even get his idea in a book. Fuck, man, patriots was gonna have an original story by him and shit and now it ain't happening.

>>324048245
I didn't pre order but I'll buy it. I like wall cover games and RPGs, especially if its third person. That's why I played Gears of War professionally and I still play TLoU online pretty much everyday.

Also why isn't it tactical, because bullet sponges? If anything, it makes it more tactical because you need to use other means of getting damage done or even combine attacks with your buddies.

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>>324048280
Post yfw Havoc joins your game

>>324046514
>only spergs like /v/ notice downgrades in the final product.
Only people who don't have sight problem would notice the downgrade. Just look at it, faggot.

>>324042003
How could it not be downgraded? This gen consoles are practically mid end PC's from 2013. Not like the gameplay will be any good anyways.

>>324044091
Isn't it online only and only one player? How are your friends supposed to play if they come over?

>>324049004

You realize power is relative right? PCs have ALWAYS been more powerful. The jump from PS3 to PS4 is still huge. It doesn't make sense, the consoles should be able to handle the original graphics of The Division. Ubisoft is just absolute garbage at optimization.

>>324042207
>"oh, cool. A new game, wait. That looks too for current tech... it's fake. fuck that game"


Makes it easier to spot a shit development team.

>>324049265
>the consoles should be able to handle the original graphics of The Division

spotted the retard

a console is about 10 times weaker than the average PC

Graphics be damned, that gameplay looks fucking pathetic.

>>324049606
reported

>>324045219
This is amazingly, spectacularly bad. Obvious graphical downgrade and animation issues aside, even, the game just seems terrible. The AI is awful, enemies just kind of run to their target and sometimes take cover (in illogical places too), instead of, like, using guns to shoot. The guns don't seem to do much damage against mobs, which is fine if you shoot aliens or robots or demons, but against dudes in hoodies it just feels weird. The guns don't seem to have much weight or recoil to them either. Who are they targeting? Borderlands (shut up, I like it) has flashy art style and setting and crazy explosive and elemental weapons and huge monster enemies. Destiny has... uh, really cool weapon designs. This game was supposed to have amazing graphics and vaguely tactical gameplay, but it's obvious now it lacks either.

>>324048245
I think they could work together, but honestly a boring ass setting like the Division's doesn't really work. It would be a lot cooler in a high tech setting with cyborgs, aliens, mechs, mutants, etc. Common human enemies only work for fantasy rpgs.

>>324049743
First off you cant say "reported" as its against the rules and second what the fuck are you even on about?

>>324049004
>This gen consoles are practically mid end PC's from 2013
You are overestimating consoles. They are like a low end pc from 2011 actually. The components are like toaster laptop tier.

>>324049951
reported for misinformation

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"Bullet Sponges" >>>>> AWP one-hit-kill garbage

low-ttk only rewards the shittiest types of players, this is why Halo is more enjoyable than CoD

>>324045219
Wait, am I seeing this right? The looters don't try to loot your supplies, they just shoot them? Fucking why?

>>324050068
first off you cant say "reported" as its against the rules and second its not misinformation PC's are known to be stronger than a console

>>324050164

first off you're gay, second off you're wrong

>>324050228
You actually think consoles are stronger than a pc?

lmao

ok dude yeah sure you are 100% right whatever you say how stupid of me lol

goodbye

>>324050146
you do realize it's PvE right

>>324050162
Haha, oh god, I didn't even realise it. Maybe it's something about how they gotta keep the chaos high to loot or whatever nonsense they'll come up with to explain hordes of looters running around like it's a bad Borderlands knock-off which is kind of is.

Wait... THAT'S what The Division is? I just figured it was basically just another military shooter, but in a post-apocalyptic setting.

That actually looks and sounds fun.

ty consoles

>>324050326
welcome to 3 years ago

And? Nearly all games get downgraded. Why does this game getting downgraded surprise you?

>>324050314
Both of you faggots are clearly new, but you are getting played like a fiddle anon. Stop replying to obvious bait.

>>324048280
I bet they could do this with 4 Titan Z in sli, damn that illumination was great.

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you're telling ME the division looks THIS good?

>>324047440
>+46 xp
What the fuck. It's a shitty third person shooter. You don't need fucking experience points and levels in an online shooter. The only reason devs shoe-horn this bullshit into online shooters is so they can sell pay 2 win bullshit in their in-game shops.
This game is shit.

>>324049265
>PCs have ALWAYS been more powerful.
That's wrong, you underage faggot.

Even if it had great visuals the gameplay itself looks like the most blandest available.
Bullet sponge, numbers flying everywhere, cover shooter, fucking hell man.

the currymonkeys cant make things look good, all they can do is code code code

>>324054739

>>324042003

Wow I thought they would tone down the lies after the Watch Dogs shitstorm but they went even further.

>>324042003
>even animations are shit

how is this even possible

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>>324042003
>Bullet sponge enemies
>Hit points
>It's ok cuz RPG

I'm out.

why did they decide to go with the depressing winter snowy theme? I'm guessing the seasons won't be changing either.

>>324048280
IT'S HAVOC
everytime

>>324047548
>30 7.62 rounds to drop someone down
>realistic
>Get over it

fuck kid

>>324045809
Back to reddit, kiddo

>>324042003

I'll never under stand why people got so hyped for this.

Everything about it looked incredibly generic and repetitive. Not even mentioning how it was over promising on the online connectivity.

>>324049265
>PCs have ALWAYS been more powerful.
Compare the N64 version of Rogue Squadron with the expansion pack to the PC version. Not to mention I'm not even sure how much said computer would cost.

PC gaming being so powerful and better in every way to Consoles is more of a recent development.

It looked shit in E3. It's a generic game piggybacking off of The DayZ survival MMO craze, minus base building.

The only thing it had marginally going for it was the graphics, which you should have KNOWN were going to get downgraded.

The setting is bland and uninspired, the gunplay looks like shit, the enemies are all bullet sponges and it's yet more PvP "emergent" gameplay bullshit that gets boring after 5 mintues because you realize "emergent" means they did fuck all to program cool environmental mechanics in the hopes that the people playing it make it interesting.

It's unadulterated shit and it will flop and flop hard.

The only decent looking game coming out from Ubisoft is Ghost Recon, and I fully expect that we'll see lots of LOD drawbacks the next time it gets shown. Hopefully it manages to actually innovate in the open world sector of video games, something like Dwarf Fortress with an actual persistent population.

>>324058119
wew

I guess because there's nothing on the PC that looks as good as the Order 1886 that PCs aren't really as powerful as the PS4 after all! woah!

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>>324046514
>publishers
Ubisoft publishes their own games, you drooling imbecile.
All their fuckups are entirely their own fault.

>>324046514

>only spergs like /v/ notice downgrades in the final product

You fucked up. The differences are fucking massive, don't kid yourself.

>>324059441
their company has divisions idiot, the coders and people who add all those nice visual effects have no say in whether those get to stay, if it can't work on console they are told specifically to downgrade until the game looks generally the same on both platforms at a stable framerate