Leandros did nothing wrong

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The Codex Astartes is a set of rules. They guide us....shape us as Ultramarines...teach us how to hold duty and honor sacred above all. But how we live with those rules is the true test of a Space Marine.

And you have failed.

test

>>324030737
He sold his superior, his sworn battle brother, to outside forces. He's a traitor to his genes and to his Primarch. You don't go tattling to the Inquisition, you tell your Chapter Master and keep your problems in house.

>>324031263
This.

Titus had no signs of corruption and Leandros betrayed his own chapter by turning him in. Little faggot was too much of a rookie to even be on that mission - dude couldn't stop talking about the fucking Codex for five seconds.

Sidonus died instead of this cunt.

Let that sink in.

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The imperial guard does no wrong!

>>324031582
Well, they do. But then they get BLAM'd and it's all good

>>324030737
Except, you know, risking literally an entire company, if not the entire chapter of the Ultramarines by crying to the Inquisition instead of consulting a chaplain. Really though, I can't help but feel that that was more either incompetent writing or just straight up disregarding the fluff of 40K in terms of how loyalist space marines actually properly deal with the risk of potential Chaos corruption within their ranks.

>>324030737
The retard didn't even read the Codex Astartes, space marines are supposed to turn in suspected marines to their chapter chaplain

>>324031863
I think it was lazy writing because they somehow needed to get Titus into the hands of the Inquisition for their sequel hook.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VXUDlcr0qI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Nox4gwLBo

>>324031863
Well it might as well be deliberate

In DoW2 the blood ravens didn't go crying to the Inquisition because one of their battle brothers became corrupted. They also didn't go crying to them when Kyras turned out to be in the cahoots with Khorne. What did they do? They smacked traitors in the face, sent possible corrupted battle brothers in a penitence crusade and then smacked their CM in the face and prevented an Exterminatus

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>>324032096

To be fair Blood ravens are magpies and if they asked inquisition they would have to clear out rooms of borrowed relics that might raise questions.

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>>324032049
>sequel hook
>tfw there is no sequel
>tfw there will never be a sequel

The game was so good, too.

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>>324032287

>imperial guard shitting their pants struggling with Orks
>be spess mehereen coming along seeing their trouble
>yank the heavy bolter that would take 3 imperial guards to carry and hip fire that sucker until Orks turn into paste

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>>324030737
the ultramarines are most codex loving faggots out there
he just wanted to help him comrade to get him free of possible corruption and called for the highest instance instead of a chaplain
so you are correct op

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Well, I like how Leandros is there to show how stupid Space Marines can be even when pin against a rather simple problem.

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>>324032881

Orkz iz da best

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>>324030737
>Not siding with Horus
>M31

Stay pleb loyalists

>>324033096

>using a shrub
>not painting yourself violet

Stupid git.

So WHY was he so resilient towards the warp? Was he alpha legion?

>>324032514
>surfing on a fucking titan
>that one part where you push the building-sized orbital defense shell into the loader by yourself
>literally punching a daemon prince to death

God that game was so based.

>>324033304
honestly he might just be a mild blank or just have good mental health, plus the ones who were going on about how resistant to the warp he is and how super suspicious that is were not exactly trustworthy sources, a daemonhost and a chaos warlord.

>>324031863
I actually think it was Relic taking the piss at Matt Ward. Portraying a younger Ultramarine obsessed with the codex astartes as incompetent, inexperienced, naive, and over all a negative force.

Keep in mind Relic was staffed by people who really understood 40k and were also fans of the series, enough that a few of them posted on /tg/ way back in the day.

>>324032881

Did that dude die?

>>324033613
>I actually think it was Relic taking the piss at Matt Ward

It's my head canon now, Matt has done more damage to the space marines than the Horus heresy itself.

>>324033613
Most likely. The way Ward portrays the Ultramarines is fucking retarded and Leandros is pretty much exactly what a Wardian UM would be like - a rigid, naive idiot who can't change his combat strategy or think on his own.

If Leandros were in charge of the attack on Graia they would've been shot down before they even got to the surface because muh codex.

>>324030737
Even if you thought Titus was corrupted, he massively fucked up by making it an Inquisitorial matter. It should have gone to the Chapter Chaplain and Librarian first and ended there. None of the First Founding wants to bother with the Inquisition.

>>324033304
>>324033532
The chapter would definitely have noticed if he was a blank. Only 1000 soldiers per chapter means you can afford to look closely. One of the more common theories is that he is favored by Khorne, whether he knows it or not, and that's why he heals from executions (extremely bloody kills) and is able to fuck magic.

>>324034918
Or it's just a video game and you're thinking far too much into it.

>>324034918
Pretty sure that what's called a game mechanic. It didn't have an impact on the story.

>>324034918
It's possible he was favored by Khorne, but I doubt it. He never seemed to revel in carnage - he just viewed it as necessary to get the job done.

It's possible he's a blank but like you said, they'd have found out by now. 1,000 marines per chapter and the fact that he's been in active combat for over 200 years means it would have come up at some point.

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I got some questions /v/.

I just finish chaos rising and started playing retribution and why Thaddeus is the canon traitor alongside Avitus? Shouldnt be Avitus and Martellus? Or is just because they need to make space for Diomedes as the assault marine?

>>324036379

Canon is the 50% corruption ending where Avitus is traitor, but the force commander and Thaddeus get sent by Gabriel into a penitence crusade to atone for certain heretical actions

>>324036379
Thad wasn't a traitor, him and Force Commander Vanilla Ice are just off on a penance crusade, possibly out of shame of not realising their battle brother was a corrupted traitor.

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>>324030737
>misinterpreted his own Primarch's guidelines
>squealed to the inquisition rather than going to his own Chaplain/Librarian
>brought distrust on his chapter
>distracted the Black Templars, leaving the Blood Ravens alone in a fucking forge world
He did plenty wrong.

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>>324036736
>>324036826

I see and yes, is clear as fucking water that Avitus is a chaos bitch. Also where is Tarkus and Thule?

>>324037197
>leaving the Blood Ravens alone in a fucking forge world
You never actually see the Titan again after they show up do you?


>>324037357
>where is Tarkus
He's the ancient./spoiler]
As for Thule since he's a dreadnought I assume he's chilling back with the rest of the Chapter in low power mode.

>>324036736
>>324036826
IIRC, the part about Vanilla Ice and Thaddeus was never confirmed, just assumed.
Even in the pure ending, Gabriel makes it fairly clear that Kyras will want their asses on a platter and tells you to wait until he gives the word, so they might have just been hiding.
Given that Tarkus and Cyrus were also in hiding, it's possible that Thaddeus and Vanilla Ice either didn't get the message, or didn't get to the fighting in time.

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>>324037534
You just know they lashed it to the Litany and fucked off the moment the Templars looked the other way.

>>324037620
Force Commander and Thads fate is mostly assumed from dialogue in Retribution.

>Given that Tarkus and Cyrus were also in hiding
Tarkus isn't hiding anywhere, he's just taken a vow of silence. He's the ancient in Retribution.

>>324037908
I know about the spoiler, but it can be inferred that he assumed a new identity partly to stay in hiding.
He could have just taken the vow of silence and kept the name otherwise.

>>324038090
Ancient is a title assumed by Chapter standard bearers, like Ancient Helveticus of the Smurfs. He probably didn't assume a new name.

>>324037197
>misinterpreted his own Primarch's guidelines

Well the Ultras as a whole did this by seeing the Codex as a holy tome rather than a big book o suggestions and useful tactics.

Titus saw it as the latter and was pragmatic when it was required.

>>324037764
how in the ass did they manage to get a custodes armor? The blood ravens are the gypsies of space marines

>>324038962
They've also got a Custodes heavy flamer. I can't help but feel that the two might have been "gifted" together.

>>324038962
In all seriousness, it was probably from when the Custodes fought alongside the legions in the great crusade.
The Thousand Sons could have pulled off the heist when they were loyal, given their skills in divination and the ones who did happened to be the ones who went into the corvidae cult. The bit about it being present during the showdown was probably made up.

>>324037764
I love how the Blood Ravens are implied to just nick tons of shit they couldn't possibly get otherwise.

>>324039297
That's the joke, yes.

Has Blood Ravens geneseed origin been settled yet?

>>324032585
arent the red scorpions bigger codex fags than the smurfs themselves? they treat that shit like the literal bible afaik

>>324039575
It originated from the planet Deez.

>>324038962

THEY WERE GIFTS

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Reminder that literally all of us would be purged as heretics for numerous reasons.

>>324037357
>Tarkus

He's the Ancient

>Thule

Dead, Eliphas rekt him at the start of Retribution

>>324030737
He has less knowledge about the meaning codex astartes than his dear captain, which already had no knowledge of its meaning, thus being a complete failure as a son of macragge and ultramar.

The game had shit lore implementation.

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>>324037357
Thule is only seen in the Chaos campaign and he gets killed by Eliphas

>>324036736
>>324037620
Kyras was the one who branded them renegade, pic related.

>>324039575
Thousand sons.

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>>324039575
not settled as such, but the only way it isn't the Thousand Sons is if someone pulls an incredibly retarded retcon.

As it stands, they have
1) Identical divination based battle strategy, save for less mindbullets involved
2) an abundance of psykers and identical recruitment tactics
3) a splinter faction called the corvidae (which translates to Raven) cult that went out on their own just before the heresy
4) Abbadon being particularly interested in them, implying that he's buttflustered about a traitor legion having a loyal splinter
5) Eliphas giving hints out the ass
6) A prophecy stating that the future of the Thousand Sons involves a Raven of Blood. The author who wrote it actually apologised for making it too obvious.

While it is possible that it's the most elaborate red herring ever devised, it would be Stephanie Myer tier bad writing to do so.
A red herring is supposed to be an implication, not shouting IT IS X! IT IS! then saying ACTUALLY NO, WHAT A TWEEST!

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>>324040068
godamned magpies

>>324033640
No servant of the emperor can truly die.

>>324030737
I'd like a new rip and tear WH40k game

Or Gork & Mork: Nutz & Boltz

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>>324040173
So he was probably loyal?

>>324033613
>Relic was staffed by people who really understood 40k
HAH, no.

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>>324040308

I wish there was a blood ravens edit of this.

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Uzas did nothing wrong.

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>>324040386

I am a bit surprised there hasn't been something resembling a sequel. People still play Space Marine and it's been... several years ago now. There's clearly a market for it.

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>>324040386
>Or Gork & Mork: Nutz & Boltz

If i had the money i would fund you right now.

>>324040173

>That hammer

FUCK YOU I STABBED THAT FAT NURGLE SHIT RIGHT IN THE GUT WITH MY HUGE ASS SWORD

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>>324040617

Considering how much 40k and even fantasy we get now that Games workshop have reconstructed their top people in charge we might get one.

I would love a DOW 3 but not sure which direction they would take it, back to DOW 1 style or more into less units more options?

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>>324031503

The one thing about this game that annoyed me is they kept referring to Leandros as a rookie, but the gold trim on all of their pauldrons indicates they are all 2nd Company marines, a veteran company

I'm sure he got the Full Metal Jacket soap in a sock treatment that night

>>324040712
Blade of the Unrelenting was easily the best weapon for it.
Fuck hammers and Terminator armour, even the Blessed Cage, they can go to those faggots that die when Ulkair glances briefly in their direction.

>>324040905
People think GW conspires against their fanbase, the truth is they are just idiots with no marketing or PR direction

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>>324030737

>>324040645
I don't have any ideas for the game besides the title sadly though.

The most I can think up is an orkish The Incredible Machine rip-off.

>>324040928
He also has Terminator honors (the gold marking on his kneepad) meaning he's had to have seen some intense shit and been a veteran of a lot of battles to have access to Terminator armor over vets like Sidonus and Titus.

But he still acts like a fucking rookie faggot.

He god damn better have been held down and nailed with socks filled with bolter shells for what he did to Titus.

>>324031063
This was beautiful.

Any of you heretics play last stand? Wouldn't mind a few games later on with some competent anons.

>>324040645
I would pay serious money to have orks blow shit on tv

>>324041027
This is truth. What I dont get is that they are always going on about "accesability" and how the wargame market is dying yet they could simply release a type of "quickgame" ruleset that simplifies the game for quick 15 minute matches. Put out small battle box sets with this new rule book at a reasonable price and you expand the hobby.

Id basically just copy the system that was made for that Army Men game. I cant recall the name but its for battles for the little plastic army men you can buy at the drugstore. Its very simple and can be played in 10-15 minute sets. They would also move more product by opening up a new manufacturing plant in the US. Prices of models could go down but overall profit would go up because you get around exporting from Bongistan to the American market.

>>324040928
Second Company isn't veteran, it's just second company, a standard battle company like 3rd, 4th and 5th. They take marines out of the reserve companies as and when they need them to fill dead mens shoes, or those who have been inducted into 1st company.

>>324030737
Gabriel would have done the exact same thing.

Just like with Cyrene.

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>Grey Knight game with Dynasty Warriors gameplay

inb4 >m-muh codex Astartes

yeah nah, fuck that nigga, Leandros sold his bro down the river

>>324041512
That would be a great way to actually create interest in the hobby too, since the average 40K game requires an entire day off to accomplish. A short, smaller-scale skirmish variant with cheaper models and a more adequate rule system would be just what GW needs to push product and get the numbers they want.

>>324042109
I bet he's now having a lengthy chat with the company Chaplain or frakking Cassius back at Ultramar.

Also Rogue Trader Ship Fleet Sim/Action RPG when?

>>324041727
Space marine with moves that clear out hordes?

>the inquisition will destroy you, Mira

*licks lips*

>>324037764
>>324038962
>Custodes
>Wearing armor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>324042252
Don't I know it. Iv got 15000 points yeah 15 thousand, of Imperial Guard. Most of them I molded myself because fuck spending that much money, but a fair chunk was from when prices were reasonable. I remember paying 20 dollars for 30 guardsmen.

Iv played a game with my 3 friends who combined their armies, chaos, orks, and tyranids. It took 2 days to finish it. Its so simple I dont see why GW doesnt do it. Small 500 point or less games with simplified rulesets, release a couple of battleboxes like SMvsCSM IGvsOrks TauvsTyranids EldarvsDeldar with a copy of the new rules.

>>324041727
I could dig it.

>>324042674
P. much.

If I had to pick the setting of it though, I'd pick Horus Heresy where you're controlling Primarchs.

>>324043168
It could be Kitten's.
Or maybe they stopped wearing armour because the Ravens kept breaking in and stealing it

TRIGGERED
>>>/tg/44791191

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>no RPG somewhat like Mass Effect based on being an Inquisitor
>no tactical shooter as an Imperial Guardsmen, basically a mix of Rainbow Six and Full Spectrum warrior
>No Space Marine 2
>No DOW 3
>No Supreme Commander scale RTS game
>No Sins of a Solar Empire clone game

Why?

>>324041727
>Play as Draigo Kaldor wrecking shit in the warp
>Turns out it was all simulation created by Tzeentch
there

>>324044137
fags gonna fag

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>>324044272
That picture is maximum comfy. More like those? I mean 40k ship interiors.

>>324040387
Holy shit.
Got any more of these? I have a few ork ones but not too many of the others.
>>324044272
>No Commissar training your troops
>No Magos or Logis to report to you about the fleet's tech

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>>324045040

Emperor is fucking retarded
Prove me wrong

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>>324044137
>read the whole article

SJW wants to shove his pronouns into an established setting and says there is no reason not to, claims that the lore that only men can be made space marines because the Emperor is male and geneseed is based on hsi genetic makeup isnt an argument because its science fiction fantasy.

Why do these people believe that? I FUCKING HATE the argument that just because something isn't real it can be anything you want. The universe has consistent rules and ideas. You cant just suddenly say Space Marines can be female. The established setting is that they cannot. Its just like the faggots wanting blacks and women to feature more heavily in medieval era games. Fuck nigger its the medieval period, it doesn't matter if its fantasy medieval or not. ITS THE FUCKING MEDIEVAL AGES. Your fight for women's rights is just going to get you burned at the fucking stake you god damn heretic.

The whole fucking point of these settings half the time is to show how utterly barbaric and inhuman it is. 40k is barbaric, its inhuman, human suffering has surpassed any possible understanding that we could have. Its a fucking setting where you as an individual hold NO VALUE. At all. Billions die across the galaxy in minutes, uncountable worlds are locked in wars that would devestate our planet ten times over. The common man is an oppressed serf who is mouth frorthingly religious, who eats soylent green while working 16 hour shifts to make the buttons for the coats of the Imperial guard.

Part of me is glad gamesworkshop never changes and doesnt listen to anyone but themselves. Because they will never kowtow to this insane bullshit.

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>>324045551

>>324045551
Without the emperor your soul would be tortured for all eternity in the open warp.

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>>324044481
Sure thing. Its the same foreground but different backgrounds iv got like 8 of them

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>>324045207

Nah, the grey knight was totally "I'm dying, I'm gifting all my belongings to you" As he was dying

>>324045551
Only if you don't ignore the HH series

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>>324045040
Some incomplete list:
http://dow.wikia.com/wiki/Dawn_of_War_II/Wargear
http://lparchive.org/Dawn-of-War-II/Update%2042/
http://lparchive.org/Dawn-of-War-II/Update%2043/

The best way to see them all is to play the game with mod that unlock everything from the start.

>>324045664
Fortunately, the one saving grace of GW is that they utterly ignore SJW shit.
They know what sells, they know their audience, and they certainly won't risk fucking up the gold mine they're sitting on for the sake of people that aren't even their demographic.

If it weren't for them being one of the biggest crowd of jews in the business world, they'd actually be pretty based.

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>>324044481

What are some good 40k novels? I'd prefer if they were about the Horus Heresy but other stuff is okay too

>>324030737
He went to the Inquisition instead of the Ultramarines Librarian.

>>324046064
>They know what sells
>they know their audience
Literally what.

The only thing protecting GW is how far up their own asses they are that there's no way they could hear anyones input.

>>324046208
I personally enjoyed the Dark Eldar Trilogy immensely. Eisenhorn and Ciaphas Cain stuff are pretty good too.

I'm looking to pick up the Ahriman trilogy and hunt for some Night Lords novels too.

>>324046180
>Just fucking viral bomb it Magos. No we aren't boarding it.

>>324046208
>>324046376
Seconding Ciaphas Cain. 40k is best with some levity.

>>324046208
Blood Raven and Fire Warrior novel is pretty good :^)

>>324046376
>>324046635
I've heard good things about Ciaphas Cain, but I wanted some good stories related to the Heresy/Chaos. Looks interesting though, I'll keep an eye on them.
>>324046873
>:^)
I have the feeling you're just shitposting

>>324044272
>No Sins of a Solar Empire clone game
There is a 40k space game in the works but I forget what it's called though nothing like sins.

There are some videos of it on youtube.

>>324047350
HH novels tend to be shit, there's like one good one out of the dozens they shit out.
The Heresy should've stayed mysterious instead of being meticulously depicted anyway.

>>324047350
I think I heard some of the Iron Warriors books to be decent. I misread your original post so why don't you start with the Horus Heresy series?

>>324047539
Because of this >>324047470. I like that setting but I don't want to read a lot of novels only to end up disappointed.

/v/ has better 40k discussion than /questboard/

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>>324046208
Granted I read it in high school so my memory of it is fuzzy but I was never an avid reader and I read the whole thing.

>>324047675
The first two books are pretty good. There's definitely a list of which ones to skip though.

It's safe to skip the Dark Angels stuff in the HH series, Nemesis, Battle for the Abyss, and a few others.

>>324046064

The only thing that keeps GW alive is the fact that 3D printers are still expensive, you just wait some years.

>>324047889
Thanks. What about the Ahriman trilogy >>324046376 mentioned? Are they any good? Any novels about Necrons/The war in heaven?

>>324048239
Haven't heard much of Ahriman's trilogy since I recently discovered that it existed. I'm out of the loop but I could guess that not too many involve the Necrons with their new lore and all.

This is fantasy related but has anyone read the Endtimes with Archaon?

>>324030737
>Going directly with the inquisition instead of the ultrasmurf librarian

seems pretty wrong to me familia

So why is Gabriel so based? He wacked his heretical father without a doubt, fucked some Eldar pussy, slapped some Necron bitches, did some house cleaning and now rule the most merchant chapter.

>>324045664
They are getting basher on twitter: https://twitter.com/TheMarySue/status/688005337266294784

>>324048948
He simply is.

He's not some big name dude like Logan Grimnar or Marneus Calgar.

He doesn't have some OP as fuck plot armor aside of sheer combat skills and durability.

He is something like Titus in this case and a awesome cool old dude to boot.

Hoping that DoW3 will have him back.

>>324044137
That comment section might be the worst part.
How is nobody calling that faggot out on his bullshit arguements?

>>324047357
Battlefleet Gothic?

>>324050291
Because sane people don't go on the mary sue and can't be bothered to register an account that would get banned for going against the groupthink.
And you don't want to give them click.

>>324047804
Nah, the discussion is about equal, and each board excels in certian areas of discussion.
And /v/ has the benefit of not having people like Carnac, ND, tau posters to shit up threads.
But /v/ certainly does have quite good discussion, I'll give you that

>>324048948
His warcry was also badass.
I FEAR NO EVIL FOR I AM FEAR INCARNATE

>>324050714
just to clarify, I mean quite good discussion in regards to 40k, nost of the time /v/ is shit
Just want to prevent getting tons of
>/v/
>good discussion
Responses

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>>324045551

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>>324050043
and this is why you go for the betas; you don't target the spergers because they know their shit inside out, and have no problems with telling you about it.

>>324048239
Unless you're a huge fan of Ahriman or the Thousand Sons i'd ignore it
It's an average series

The Gods of Mars Trilogy is really good - but then again i'm a huge Admech fan
I've got like 200+ 40k books dude - where do you want to start?

>>324050850
all you need to read is the god emperor of dune to imagine what a god emperor feels

>>324050714
>>324050820
It's also good because /v/ 40k threads are only up every so often, so we're not burned out on it, and it's niche enough, despite being fairly popular, that it's populated by people who actually played the games, not shitposters.
/tg/ would roll their eyes at used up jokes/discussions, but /v/ can have a fresh take on it while still have a laugh and, like you said, avoid the unholy trinity of /tg/ shitposters.
I've lost count of the number of times I've banged my head against Carnac's mental brick wall regarding the Ravens

>>324051103
What exactly does the God of Mars series entail? I'm not the biggest fan of the Admechs but I still find the Imperium and its allies as the more interesting faction.

>>324050850
Didn't the Emperor trick chaos into giving him his powers on Molech?

>>324051103
>where do you want to start?
Like I said some chaos-related stuff would be nice, doesn't have to be Heresy-related but it would be nice. If you think there's a story that's particularly good I'd like to check it out too

>>324052042
>Rogue trader finds part of a missing fleet so the Admech cum their pants at the wonders that an Old Explorator group had that were lost and fund a fleet. Black Templars accompany it because they are exploring "new" areas. This don't go to plan.

>>324052332
For Chaos? Night Lords Trilogy by ADB will start you off really well.
There's also Iron Warriors Omnibus and the Word Bearers Omnibus too.

>>324052091
+++ Records Unknown +++
GW hasn't clarified yet

>>324053157
>admechs
>BLACK TEMPLARS
Guess I found something good to read. I'll go pick up the Night Lords trilogy too.

>>324031863
It does set up Titus and Leandros reuniting in a Deathwatch sequel after Leandros gets drummed out of the smurfs.

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>>324030737
>you will never defect to the Tau Empire as a Gue'vesa
>you will never fight with your fellow alien comrades in the name of a noble cause
>you will never return home from war to your pregnant Tau wife who is lovingly awaiting a new bond between your two peoples

WHY
EVEN
LIVE?

>>324040928
Dude's like 80. By spess muhreen standards he should still be a devastator, how he got so many honors is beyond me

>>324053705
Have fun getting screwed over by kroots

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>>324053412
Have fun anon

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>>324053705
yessss, good Goy'Vesa

>>324051490
>I've lost count of the number of times I've banged my head against Carnac's mental brick wall regarding the Ravens
Just post the proofs rooster and he'll go away.
It's what I did when he went on about tau ships being better than imperium ones, tau are the best, ect. around the release of either mon'tka or kauyon, and look what that did.
The rooster is still holding the "no proofs" sign in the 40k general pic to this day because of me.

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>>324054542
nowadays I just post this one, then lizards until he goes away.

>>324054163
Are the actual 2 books of the Admech series any good also?

>>324054785
That pic does the trick, but ever since he moved onto/ back to tau, lizards don't have as much of an effect.

>>324054813
You mean Skiitari and Tech Priest?
Skitarii is slow as fuck but gets interesting mid way onwards

Only pick it up if you like the Admech, or interested in them, otherwise don't bother

>>324053157
>>324052332
I also forgot - Talon of Horus for all you Chaos fags, it has a lot of references though so maybe leave that until you know more of the lore

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>>324046208
this and 15 hours

>>324053705
And completely have no free will?

Yeah, life in the Imperium may not be roses, but at least on a crushing majority of them I can choose with whom I can go and have sex with or at least have the Inquisitor to listen to my suggestions.

>>324031263
ACTHUALLY you tell the Chaplain or the Librarians.

>>324055598
And then Tony Montana was a Dark Angel.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWteWul9cBE

Please be good

>mfw Nova Cannon

>>324045551
I blame magnus, of all of them he should have known better

>>324032287
The original game was supposed to be even bigger. You were supposed to have 4 different space marines to play (devastator, tactical, assault and idk chaplain or something).

It was supposed to have dow2 style leveling and equipment customization options.

Each marine had their own campaign / parts to the whole campaign.

It was still a good game, but it could have been so much more.

>>324056130
He literally didn't know.
If he knew about Chaos he would probably still be a loyalist.

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WE'RE RAIDING THIS THREAD FOR THE DARK ELDAR.

>>324050870
>>324050043
But the article wasn't really about that, it was about no models. Which is just as stupid. But they're linking FFG pictures as claim for that shit.

>>324056507
he was literally the only person outside malcador, the custodes, and the sisters of silence that the emperor told about chaos and what's really in the warp

he was even given a second chance to stop after the council of nikea

he has no excuse and he's the reason why the emperor could do fuck all about horus or any of the other primarchs during the heresy and had to plant his ass on that chair 24/7

>>324056301
Yeah. And the game wasn't supposed to be simply a TPS, but a action RPG.

Also heard that BioWare got the rights to Space Marine.

The implications makes my spine shiver in fear.

On the other hand if SM2 will be an action RPG like ME, but much more dynamic, then the only thing I'd fear about would be the story.

>>324056598
Dark Eldar exist to be purged by my SD AP1 Power Lance.

>>324054542
>ect

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>>324056598
QUICK BROTHERS, FIRE YOUR BOLTERS AT THEM AND THEY SHALL FLEE THANKS TO THEIR UNDERPOWERED CODEX.
KEEP THIS THREAD IN THE HANDS OF THE IMPERIUM

>>324056598
>No game set in Commorragh
>You will never start off as either a noble trueborn or a lowly test tube DE
>You will never devote your life to either partake in the arena, be a realspace raider, or to an Incubi shrine
>You will never start off doing small errands and then lead your own Cabal where you manage troops, bodyguards, and realspace raids.

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>>324056903
Filthy savage.

>>324057049
Craftworld and Exodite Eldar in turn exist to have their ears fondled.

>>324057049
That's rich comeing from the species that commited enough acts of BDSM to create a chaos god

>>324057049

Eldar are not that cute

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>>324057375
You don't mean that, do you anon? Sure you wouldn't like to, tehehe, 'worship' with us?

>>324056130
Didn't Konrad Curze have a vision of the heresy when he was recovered from his homeworld?

>>324050594
and the comments must be moderated so they keep the impression of a hugbox

Leandros shouldn't have turned Titus over to the =I=, he should've told the Chapter Librarian instead. That's his main crime.

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>>324057474
The artist makes my dick hard. Shame he hasn't done more Eldar.

>>324057645
>implying

He was literally taught not to follow the Codex to the letter. So he didn't. That's the whole point of that scene.

>>324057526
I would worship with you so much that The Emperor would hear us perfectly even if we were beyond the range of the Astronomicon.

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>>324030737
Fucking snitch.

>>324057526
>SoBs going teehee
>ever
Also that symbol/scar on the left most sisters face looks suspiciously like a mark of Tzeentch

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>>324040556
Uzas died like a bitch

>>324057795
The codex has nothing to do with that, the position of Librarian goes back way beyond that to the time of Legions, they were always in charge of handling those matters for the chapter

>>324057039
Would be fun as long as backstabbing is a game mechanic.

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>>324057914
You worry too much, anon. I would never hurt you.

>>324057797
Oh, anon~~~!

>>324058082
That's the only way to ascend the ranks, so that goes without saying.

Is Dark Crusade just GOTY DoW with more content? Or do they have different units?

>>324046208
Night lords triology

Shira Calpurnia omnibus. Even though it's mostly just politicking within the imperium the second novel is fucking awesome. Shira Calpurnia an arbites officer with some distant tie to a space marine in her family is told that she gets to preside over the transfer of an ancient rogue trader charter... that was signed by the emperor himself, and dotted with his blood. Her lieutenant fucking hyperventilates himself to unconciousness when he hears about this, the local ecclesiarchy tries to confiscate the charter because it's y'know a holy relic of the emperors life. The mechanicus gets involved and I believe even the inquisition shows up too. It's entertaining as fuck to see a planet basically rip itself apart over a 10 000 year old paper with the signature and a drop of blood from the emperor on it.

it's even more interesting when you see what this paper can do to daemons

Avoid anything by c.s.goto, he's a hack.

>>324058042
Yes, but the Librarian had nothing to do with corruption. Chaplains did. Chaplains were created DUE to Niketa.

The Codex says to go to your Librarian or Chaplin. But he didn't do either. Regardless.

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>>324058180
>>324057703
>>324057526
I want those smiles to protect me

>>324058416
I don't think Irish Midgets who ride Motorcycles can count as hacks. They're barely people.

Also, is Goto really the pseudonym of Ward? I miss Ward.

>>324056810
True but he was shitting on the universe while describing it.
He went from:
"Oh look at this universe, I fucking love 40k but there's clearly not enough female representation so it's putting me off a little"
to:
"the actual reason I wrote this was because no models/codex and SoB are overpriced."
While he's not wrong about SoB being forgotten by GW, he's just bitching like a child.

>>324058180
Oh Mon Cheri, if only those fools at GW gave you an update worthy of you and your sisters instead investing in Space Marines...

Then again, I'd play you no matter what.

>>324058210
DEAL!

>>324058386
Dude. For real? It adds two new factions and an additional unit for existing ones.

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>>324058524
We want to protect you too, anon!

>>324040556
Fuck Cyrion.

I miss Xarl. Also Talos' reaction despite *HATING* Xarl.

>>324058828
What I should have asked is: does Dark Crusade include GoTY's content and campaign? Is there a point in buying GoTY instead?

>>324059134

No

Each game has its own individual campaign

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>>324058639
The problem was, the article can be summed up as

>Businesses, especially publically traded businesses, shouldn't care about making profit, but about pandering to minorities
>How dare they try and make as much money as possible! WAAAH THEY GOT RID OF WHFB AND IM SO UPSET! MAKE MORE WOMEN DESPITE THE REASON SOB NOT GETTING UPDATED IS DOWN TO SALES AND THUS PROVES THERE IS NO MARKET!
>I'm going to ignore the half a dozen model companies which run on smaller numbers and margins than GW and thus can afford to make lower quality cheesecake/proxy models!

>>324058828
If only they did anon.

>>324034918
>>324036375
>He never seemed to revel in carnage - he just viewed it as necessary to get the job done.

Every time he goes into super-mode he yells something about serving the Emperor or whatever. What if he's favored by the Emperor? That would explain why he's resistant to the warp, and why everyone would accuse him of being tainted by the warp. Everyone forgets that the Emperor can use warp powers too, and no one accuses him of heresy.

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>>324059285
Jill?

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WE CAN'T ALLOW THE TITAN CANNON TO FALL INTO THEIR HANDS! OVERLOAD THE CORE!

>>324059203
Fuck. Are they good?

>>324059134
Dawn of War and winter assault have actual campaigns.

Dow is space marine centric
Winter assault has guardsmen, eldar, chaos and ork campaigns.

Dark crusade shifts to a province control type game with much less story, but 7 playable races (it adds necrons and tau, which are pretty bland due to the ruleset of 40k when the game was made). It's fun, but it's also painfully simple.

Soulstorm adds two more races (albiet fucking awfully balanced ones), keeps the dark crusade formula, has some quality of life improvements for some races, but also makes other things like province defense more tedious.

Throughout the whole dawn of war 1 series, eldar are unbelievably fucking overpowered and succeeded in a forum campaign on relic to get other races nerfed and their own race buffed.

>>324059412
WHAT IS THIS?

>>324059515
Fooor the empraaa

>>324059515
FER DER EMPERAH

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>>324059667
>>324059678

>>324059540
Campaign wise?
Vanilla is super easy.
WA is by far the hardest.
DC is fun except for when you're fighting a high level Eldar base who are fucking OP.
SS is DC except longuer, less fun and more tedious, Eldar have been balanced but DE and Necrons are super weak.

>>324034918
>>324035329
>>324036097
>>324036375
>>324059401
The game is an alternate universe. The fluff doesn't match up and there are weapons in the game not supported by GW (I think the example is the Nade Launcher which Relic had to beg GW to let them use, even in an alt universe). GW seems to let people do Alt Universes a lot more. Age of Reckoning was alt universe, for example. Warhammer Total War isn't alt universe, it's just between 2502 and 2515.

>>324059609
Thanks.

>>324059285
Indeed.

I'd love to see the Sisters to have stuff like:
-Combat and Storm Shields
-Expanded Acts of Faith with extra miracles
-Completely new units
-Better Relics from their Reliquary for their HQs
-Giving them back Land Raiders or have them have an equivalent of theirs to said Land Raiders

>>324059540
The DoW and WA are more traditional campaigns.

The DC and SS are Risk-like ones.

>>324059835
Sisters are also unbelievably weak in SS.

>>324059836
Warhammer tabletop has no grenade launchers?

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>>324059412
I can be whomever you want me to be anon~~~!

>>324046208

Anything by Aaron Demski-Bowden or Dan Abnett

Ravenor, Eisenhorn, Night lords series are good examples

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>>324059892
RagingHeroes is doing Proxy SoB (which are insane) as well as Proxy Sisters of Sigmar.

There is a unit in these called Knights of the Chalice. They're essentially Terminator Armoured SoB with Sword + Shield. They look amazing in art, but they don't have the money to make them look good in models...

I've bought about $130 worth thou. Well, I have $130 to spend on them when they're fully done.

>>324059515
ONCE
THERE WAS A SIMPUL SOLDJAAAA

>>324059540

The DoW campaign is about the spehhs mahreens. It's its own little thing and even when some things don't make sense fluff-wise, it's still fun to play through. WA is a hit or miss. Some people love it, some hate it. It's IG simulator, take that as you will

Dark Crusade and Soulstorm are risk-like campaigns, basically you just play skirmishes in all of them with the exception of some areas that have specific objectives and the stronghold missions which are really fun. The best part about DC is the banter you get from all the commanders

Soulstorm is the same campaign format from DC but it's shit, don't play it.

A lot of people hate DoW2 for no reason, but the campaigns in it are really fun. Chaos Rising is the best. I think I actually like the DoW2 campaigns more than the DoW1 campaigns

>>324059951
It does, just not for Marines standard weapons. Imperial Guard do. Some Space Marine Bikes do. There is no handheld one for SM's.

>>324059836
>(I think the example is the Nade Launcher which Relic had to beg GW to let them use, even in an alt universe)
Third parties come up with new weapons for 40k is nothing new. They probably showed it to their GW relations guy, explained about where it came from and what it does and then put it in after he said 'yeah, ok then'.

>>324030737
he's guilty of being an ultrasmurf

>>324060240
Chaos Rising was pretty baller.
Tarkus ;_;
What power could be worth betraying us all?
The power to save you

>>324060270
What used the SM grenade launchers? Scouts in 2 right?

>>324060374

I finished my first playthrough of it yesterday and Avitus turned out to be the traitor. Figures I suppose

doing Retribution right now, but I'm doing the campaign with the Orks since they're just so much fucking fun

>>324060240
The thing I hate about DoW2 Chaos Rising, is it's very hard to make a single unit get high corruption and nobody else. It's either everybody or nobody. The only way to reduce it is with reducation gear, which outright nerfs you. Since corruption gear needs specific levels of corruption to be equipable.

However, I enjoyed them more than DoW1, despite DoW1's amazing VA. Retribution is the best for me though. Plenty of factions, playing as Nids was cool as fuck, the loot is fun and getting units and their upgrades instead of loot was also fun in it's own right. Ork Campaign and IG campaign were the best.

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>>324030737
>Leandros is a Red Scorpions-tier codex basher
>but reports Titus to the Inquisition because he suspects taint
>even though the proper procedure IN THE CODEX is to report him to the head Chaplain/Chapter Master
Leandros was wrong by the standards of his own goddamn book.

>>324060240
Dark Crusade and Soulstorm are more multiplayer-oriented, right? I'm not that experienced in the RTS genre so for now I'd settle for a fun campaign. Looks like I'll buy DoW GOTY and see if I like it, I appreciate the info man

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>>324053412

Good choice

>>324059921
You must remembering things wrong because they were at least mid-tier.
Celestian were the 2nd best AV infantry right behind Fire Dragon.
Seraphim were amazing harrasser.
Penitent Engine was straight up the best walker of the game.
Battle Sisters squad are SM squad with less HP and option.
Repentia were also one of the best melee units.

>>324060535
Dude what

It's super easy to get 0% corruption for all your squads. You just need to do the optional purity objectives in missions if any of your squads has corruption you don't want

Also, to corrupt a specific squad just give them some corrupted piece of gear and take them on missions. It's that simple

>>324060532
Canonically, Avitus was considered the traitor I think.
>>324060535
Retribution was fun in its own way, making your squad the most overpowered thing was always fun to see
>Plague Champion infects a squad, infection spreads, you can manually detonate infected squads, that cause zombies, rinse repeat
>Commissar Lord execute can make your squad invulnerable and deal more damage, beat the entire game with an army of guardsmen

>>324060401
Cyrus can equip one in Chaos Rising.

>>324060374
I hate trying to make Avitus the guy. I just can't bring myself to get corruption and it sucks there is no easy way to tip him over the edge while leaving everybody else normal. Also, at Lv.24 you can easily get 3000+ Range DPS with him, making him insane against everything bar vehicles.

>Jonah dies no matter what.

>>324060532
Avitus is the canon traitor, but the game always picks the person with the highest corruption (who isn't Hairgel). If everybody has 0 corruption, then it's Martellus.

>>324060706
That's exactly what I said. Re-read what I said again. I said it's very hard to make a single unit get high corruption and nobody else. It's either everybody or nobody.

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>>324060148
>Terminator Sisters

I once thought about these as something like very bulky Power Armors with tiny shrines on their back.

Then again there is pic related. Everything is fine...except for the chest.

>>324060824
I hate it when anyone on your team goes traitor, even Martellus.

I just...it's like a Khorne Berserker tearing into you. Only instead of spilled blood, your soul is torn apart by sadness.

>>324060535
DoW series is the benchmark for vidya VA work. Outside SS, there's not a single one with multiple outstanding performances.
I've no idea why portal gets jacked off constantly for VA work despite being outclassed so readily

>>324031263
this

leandros is a retarded faggot

on the other hand, the whole game is a kick in the nuts for what concerns lore

>>324060983
wut

no dude that's what I was trying to explain to you. If you want to corrupt a single unit you can give them corrupted gear and take them on missions. It's a no brainer. You can only use purity wargear if you're at 0% corruption, not the other way around. Using corrupted gear doesn't require any level of corruption beforehand

>>324061138
Grey Knights and the Chaplain are probably the best voiced units in the entire series.

The Chaos Announcer in DOWII is probably my favorite though.

The eldar announcer has a sick line when you upgrade a tier
>We must arm for even crueler warfare

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>>324061138
Legacy of Kain exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SQ2Wu6PvI

>>324061375
The voice acting in DoW games is in general, fucking suberb.

>>324061280
>Using corrupted gear doesn't require any level of corruption beforehand.

Not that anon, but some more powerful Chaotic Wargear require a certain level of corruption.

How powerful are the Custodes?

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>>324060696
>Penitent Engine

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>>324055598
mein neger

>>324057039
>No game set in Commorragh

There is one. It's a moba or some shite like that.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/408330/

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>>324030737

>just spent 6 hours playing the Dawn of War 1 campaign

Man I love this game. Fucking Isador you traitorous cunt.

>no limits on Terminators
>no limits on Land Raiders
>no limits on Whirlwinds

OH BABY. WE PURGE NOW. CHAOS OUT. REEEE.

>>324057526
>you will never be selected by the Ecclesiarchy to fuck a Sister of Battle

>>324061020
>dat pic
Literally a normal terminator with boobs.

>I hate it when anyone on your team goes traitor, even Martellus.

I just...it's like a Khorne Berserker tearing into you. Only instead of spilled blood, your soul is torn apart by sadness.
That's why Jonas is the best traitor because he didn't really betray you and show ghis loyalty beyond death.

>>324061280
Corrupted gear needs certain levels and those that don't are awful you end up nerfing yourself. Furthermore, not taking them on the mission is kinda moot point as you need to take 4 dudes. Some gear reduces your corruption when equipped. It doesn't have any set level required.

>>324053705
Tau women are fucking hideous

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>>324061970
Commander Shadowsun a qt.

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>>324040645

>we will never get an Ork Kommando game about orky shenanigans with the Blood Axes

>>324061715

>DoW1
>psyker gains Khorne's favor and ascends to Daemon Prince
>DoW2
>psyker gains Khorne's favor and ascends to Daemon Prince

I think I'm starting to see a pattern here

IT WAS ALL PLANNED BY TZEENCH TO FUCK OVER THE MALEDICTUM DAEMON

fuckin bolter bitches

>>324061020
Isn't that just fan art? I like the Knights of the Chalice because they're not fat looking, but are bulky. Also, can't dislike sexy latex nuns.

>>324061480
We don't really know and it doesn't help that whenever they are appearing their power level change to fit the plot.

>>324061483
I think the reason why people says "X race is over/under-powered" is because they only played the campaign.
Playing the campaign on normal doubled the HP of your units so everything you faced seems squishy in comparison.

>>324061917
>That's why Jonas is the best traitor

It's hard to call him traitor if his flesh is puppeteered by a daemon while fighting from the inside.

>>324033304
>So WHY was he so resilient towards the warp?
The Emperor protects us all, always, no matter how far away.
(That's my head-canon and I'm sticking with it)

>>324062198
No, no, these are Terminator Sisters done right.

The pic there is something...I swear the boobplate is the only thing that bugs me.

>>324061138
>single one with
Without*
One bitch of a typo there

>>324062338
Yeah that's what I meant, sorry if that was unclear.

>>324061020
SNU SNU THE HERETIC

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>>324061754
Well, if the only mention of SoB and sex life is to be believed, they choose you.

Also, I'm so mad that artist hasn't done more art ;_; His stuff is so good. Yeah it's 'flashy' and 'bloom xD' and other meme words, but I like it. Dick goes doki doki.

Last one, but obviously not SoB ;_;

>>324033304

He was chosen by the Emprah

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>>324062014
Ayy
Lmao

>>324062540
Wait, you referring to the picture I asked if it was fan art or the proxy models art? If the former, then yeah, boobplate is off putting for that kind of armour, as for the proxies, I like them due to not being terminator armour with boobs slapped on them.

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>>324062705
>he wouldn't go for a Tau girl pile

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>>324055604
>or at least have the Inquisitor to listen to my suggestions.
>suggestions
>in the motherfucking imperium
>addressed to an inquisitor of all people


have fun getting purged the second you open your mouth loyalist

>>324062014
>>324062705
>>324062803
Vigilo Confido you fucks.

>>324062652
Link of the artist page?

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>>324063084
Wrong franchise, Bradford, get out.

>>324056005
>had no idea about this until now
It's beautiful

>>324063126
I've posted all his 40k work, but here:

http://yangzheyy.deviantart.com/

Witcher 3 one is pretty cool.

>>324056005
Well, seeing as the other game published by Focus Home Interactive, Deathwing, seems to be dead. Then it needs to be.

>>324063259
Thanks.

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>>324063196
No, fuck off Ayy.

>>324063361
Several people of the team left so they "just" need to replace them.

>>324062565
Even Imperials get unclear, so no problems with that.

>>324062620
Dunno if the Heretic would be extremely lucky, or extremely screwed (Slaaneshi don't care).

>>324062796
The proxies are the ones that I'd consider Termie Sisters done right. The fan-pic is downright stupid.

>>324062652
Sister of Silence were actually allowed to marry high-ranking Imperial Officers as I remember.

>>324062803
Important Xeno-Biologis material.

>>324063067
And what if it is about efficient purging?

>>324063361
What happened to Deathwing?

>>324062108

I think you mean.

>DoW1
>IT WAS CHAOS ALL ALONG!
>DoW2
>IT WAS CHAO... oh fuck Tyranids!
>Retribution
>MORE CHAOS
>Space Marine
>IT WAS CHAOS ALL ALONG!

Relic please.

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>>324063503
>implying I'm not a Gue'vesa

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>>324061375
>God Tier
Gabriel
Sindri
Kyras
Merrick
Gorgutz
Original Eliphas
All DoW 1 Orks and Guardsmen
Chaplain
Grey Knights

>Outstanding Tier
DoW 2 Orks, Guardsmen and their Heroes
Araghast
Captain Thule
Taldeer
Isador
General Stuurn
Neroth
Jonah
DoW 1 Commissar

>Great tier
Everyone else outside SS

>Scott McNeil 'avin a giggle and not realising he was being recorded tier
Boreale
Carron

>>324063562
http://sidearc.com/death-of-deathwing/
http://www.streumon-studio.com/index.php?page=jobs

>>324063765
Can't argue with this.

>>324059836

>alternate universe

I doubt that. Only things that don't match up is Black Templar marines with the Inquisition and Blood Ravens being there.

Assuming the game takes place post-DoW2 where the BR are literally dead.

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>>324063678
I'd joke about a certain Tau related defence force, but that might summon the autist in chief himself.

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>>324063765
YOU HAV CHAPTEN DIOMEDES

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>>324063678
Holy fucking shit, a rookie serving the Ayys, that's somehow even fucking worse.

Enjoy the castration and mind control "Gue'vassa", hope you like getting probbed in the brain.

>>324064019
BRUVA I AM HIT

>>324063532
you imply the current purging methods are inefficient ? HERESY

>>324063829
I hope the game's not dead. E.Y.E was great and they have lots of potential
I want to believe

>>324064335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFs4_8sJTT0


YOU MUST BE MED TO CHOM FO ME!
THINK YOU AR MY MATCH!?

>>324064335

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeCfod1XT7E

>>324063920
I also think Space Marine takes place into the future (somewhere into the later 42nd M).

Which would explain why there is no annoying Captain Sicarius.

>>324064384
They need to be...CONCENTRATED. AND WITH PINPOINT ACCURACY.

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>>324064494

IT IS THE BAAAAAANEBLAAAAAADE

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>>324064494
THAT VEHICLE IS..... HALTED...

>>324063765
>DoW 1 Orks and IG over DoW 2 Orks and IG
Nope, not gonna agree on this, DoW 2 orks are meaner, greener and orkier, nevermind more attention in regards to their other designs and for the love of god that fucking vox sound effect on all IG vehicles in DoW 1 is pure cancer, although the LET ME PREACH HIS NAME preacher was godlike.

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>>324064494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK5-uE5JFg

>>324040387
Yes. Its confirmed that Aramus got sent on a penitence crusade and that Thaddeus likely went with him.

>>324064919
DOWI Orks are comical, DOWII definitely sound meaner.

As for IG, Commissary Lord and Freddie Mercury are great. No problem with the tank vox voices though

>>324065220

>DoW2 orks
>not comical

Dis grot 'ere neva played as Kaptin Bluddflagg

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>>324065220

>DoW2 orks not comical

u wot?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtlkiucBCGU

>>324065220
>DOWI Orks are comical, DOWII definitely sound meaner.
DoW 2 ones also have some of this, like Warboss saying "Dis gonna be a long trip, so pee before we leave" everytime you order a group of units to travel with him on a big distance.

>>324064494
His lines sound awesome over all until the ham goes up too high.

>YOU HAVE MISPENT YOUR LIFE
The most savage bantz

>>324065596
>>324065872
>>324066031
I never said they weren't , the hell you guys on about. I only said the DOWII Orks sound generally meaner. Not once did I say they weren't comical

>all these 40k fans
>it's more than likely that only a few of them have even touched wh fantasy
truly suffering

>>324033304
Not sure, but according to the devs, the third game was supposed to have him become chapter master of his own chapter of warp-resistant astartes.

>>324066419
You're setting up shitposting, aren't you?

>>324063678
Fucking Advent assholes.
>>324063503
Lets be honest, if Bradford was in 40k he'd get a goddamn aneurysm at all the CLOSE RANGE!? within.

>>324033349
He was in the process of becoming one. Wasn't a full daemon prince yet

>>324066551
yes

>>324066419
Archaon > Abby

>>324066419

Please don't bait Anon. That's not nice, and probably heresy too. *BLAM*.

>>324061020
needs to be a fat nun. just tumblr huge, nun. Ruler weapon as well.

>>324066775
So a female Ogryn?