Why play a half-elf? Is there any advantage over playing

The advantage is that instead of only certain races hating you, everyone hates you for being a filthy halfbreed mutt.

>>324009074
sluttier than a human but not quite so slutty as a full blooded elf

>>324009074
What's this from?

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>>324009687
Eye of the Beholder II

>>324009687
coldair glen

>>324009687
Icewind Dale 1 and 2. Everyone keeps saying the story sucks. But the gameplay is fucking top notch.

>>324009074
Cleric/ranger exploit

>>324009074
Why is she wearing no armor?
Is there any advantage in wearing no armor while carrying an anti armor weapon?

>>324009916
Titty cleric's cleavage is equivalent to chain mail +1, she'll be fine

>>324009074
Half elf is basically a bit weaker human who can multiclass.

>>324009916
She may be a cleric in which case she has an ironskin and blade barrier ready to cast.

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>>324009687

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>>324009074
Bonus to pickpocet

>>324009916
That's not specifically an anti-armor weapon.
It's a club. It kills people dead or fucks them up better than a sword probably would.

>>324011609
nope, a sword is far superiour against unarmored opponents

>>324011764
Hardly.

>>324012032
no it is significantly better
longer reach combined with lower weight make it flat out superior in every circumstance against unarmored opponents

>>324012032
it absolutely is, a sword is much faster since the more of the weight is in the grip as opposed to the end and a piercing wound is a certain death

>>324009074
In icewind dale half elves are better than humans unless you're going to dual class since they have identical stats and some resistances on top of that.

So if you want to go bard you're better off as a half-elf.

When it comes to health I'm not so sure though.
Even if you're a melee fighter, the Elf gets a +1 to longswords and I think that is better than the 1 con.

If you're not a "warrior"(fighter, paladin, ranger) you only need 16 con, so being an elf is not a downside.

I think half-elf might have access to a dual class the elf doesn't, otherwise elf is probably better.

>>324011764

this just isn't true desu.

a sword cuts (or at worst tears) in the same direction as a blade. a flanged mace gets in there and just fucks shit up, grabbing flesh and ripping it off someone, breaking bones, and causing huge bruises and jagged lacerations that aren't easy to fix.

both of them are gonna seriously fuck up unarmored opponents but a mace is gonna commonly do things that a sword wouldn't usually do.

>>324009687
Skyrim Prequel

>>324012163
>>324012229
Not all blades are longer or lighter. Also, it's not as easy to piece as it is to bludgeon.

>>324009869
>Cleric/ranger exploit
Heh.
I used ops pic for my human Ranger>Cleric dual class.
18/00 strength, 2 pips in slings and maces, dual classed asap and got access to all priest spells.

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>>324012245
>Being an elf
>Ever
Can't fool me Elf scum

>>324012260
sword has longer reach and better handling
both of the weapons are capable of killing or incapacitating an unarmored opponent with a single well placed strike
the fact that the fanged mace does some fucked up shit literally doesn't matter what so ever, back when that thing was used a sword wound was just as much a death sentence, especially if someone smeared some dung over it or so

who /alwayshuman/ here?

>>324012372
I went with 5 humans and 1 half-elf when I last played icewind dale.

There are reasons to be an elf though.

>>324012325
sword can slash you know, unarmored opponent
and vast majority of blades would be longer and most certainly have vastly superior handling due to not needing to rely on sheer force to deal its damage

bludgeoning instruments are easier to fabricate than bladed instruments, if swords held no advantage they would have never been used

>>324012260
sword pentertates far deeper because of the way smaller surface area.
Also, it is way better balanced than a mace, with having the mass centre at the hilt, as another anon pointed out already

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>he doesn' play the most mundane and boring sword&board guy to prove everyone that he isn't a special snowflake

>>324009074
maybe you are rping as a character whose mom was human that was raped by an elf and just left without taking care of you so now you hate elves and in turn dwarves are your best friends because human kids made fun of you growing up

>>324012591
>rping
>>>/lgbt/

>>324011609
The big advantage of a mace that it dents plate pretty good, shaking up the guy inside it really well. Sure, you can also kill unarmoured foes to death with it, but there's certainly better tools for that job, like the good old spear.

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>>324009074
not really

>>324009852
I loved playing the demo of Icewind Dale 1 I got with PC gamer as a kid, never took it up again.

Is it worth it or should I look into Pillars of Eternity? I enjoyed Baldurs Gate 2 but never beat it I think.

>>324012725
>implying I speak nazi

>>324012163
>>324012229

Ok but the original debate was...

>"It kills people dead or fucks them up better than a sword probably would."
>nope, a sword is far superiour against unarmored opponents

Nobody is debating that a sword isn't the more balanced and handier weapon in a fight. However a mace will inflict worse wounds on an unarmored opponent. Not only does it cause bigger wounds and more trauma, the wounds it leaves would generally be harder to treat as well, leaving more permanent damage. A mace also doesn't require as much training to use and things such as edge allignment and angle don't really matter with a mace as long as it's moving fast enough when it impacts it's target.

In the end though you wouldn't really want to be hit by either obviously, especially without armor.

>>324012725
Nobody on /v/ plays DSA.

>>324012795
Never played the first one, but the second is really great. Lame story, pure dungeon crawling for loot and exp. Can get pretty hard at times.

>>324012476
I always have one subhuman like a faggot gnome bard or something in my party to do all the things that the humans wouldn't want to do.

>>324012816
the difference between Human and Half Elf is that half elves are better at fending of magic by 1 point and are worse at fending of physical attacks by 1 point.

While full Elves are always magicians and have Intuition and Dexterity +1 and either Intelligence or Strength -2

Dwarves are the best that's why they cost 61 points instead of 0 or 18

>>324012591
Nah brah, if I'm half elf its because my mom was the elf.
I'm getting those sexy androgyny genes from her.

>>324012928
since I posted that screenshot and you recognized it at least two people do.

>>324013068
>and either Intelligence or Strength -2
>either
interesting system

>>324012889
Nope
Getting hit anywhere but the head with a mace is very much survivable
Gettting hit anywhere with a sword is gonna make you bleed to death

>>324012941
The challenge is what sets it apart from other D&D games. Character customization is wasted on piss easy games where the absolute trashiest of builds are viable.

>>324013215
>Getting hit anywhere but the head with a mace is very much survivable
>Implying Internal bleeding and crushed bones is survivable while in a fight.

what D&D ruletset does Icewind Dale use?

>>324013225
Though it isn't really fun to realize that that one character build is absolute shit when you are already several hours in.

>>324013260
Imagine you get hit in the arm with a mace. It will probably break your bone, but the adrenaline wont even let you feel the pain and you will be still able to fight with your other arm.
If you get hit in the arm with a sword, however, without medical attention, you will bleed to death in minutes

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also humans are allowed to pick from these cultures while half elves aren't allowed to pick any cultures.

>>324013389
iwd1 is based on 2nd edition
iwd2 is based on 3rd

>>324013483
getting your arm shattered (maces do not cause clean fractures) back in the days when they were actually used was in a lot of cases also a death sentence, just a slower one

that said thanks to hollywood, people severely underestimate just how lethal stabbing or slashing wounds are

>>324013215
This is the post of an autistic 14 year old know-it-all. Those katanas don't make you look cool. kek

>>324013537
How old is IWD1 to use 2nd edition?

>>324013910
16 years old

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because this tends to happen when you mix elves and humans together

>>324013260
>>324013215

you guys are completely misunderstanding how a mace works. the average mace is not round or flat, but generally has spikes or is flanged. you guys are thinking of it as a blunt weapon like a club or hammer when it's more of a unique hybrid weapon.

a mace is not designed soley to break bones cause blunt trauma. the spikes or flanges exist to bite into or shred the flesh when the mace head impacts the skin, transferring all of the kinetic energy of the mace into those points . the types of wounds this cause can vary greatly, but at worst it can grip into the flesh and tear it off a person in chunks, leaving gaping uneven wounds that are practically impossible for a doctor to treat.

imagine an animal biting into your leg and ripping the flesh off. it's not entirely unsimilar to that.

>>324014210
You know you have to provide a source

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Elves are for_____?

>>324014262
sword wounds, in the appropriate time period, were just as lethal though
maces are dangerous, but they do have downsides
short range and significantly worse handling being the primary ones. It doesn't matter how fucked up someone would be if you got to them, when you never get to them: its why the mongols conquered everything.

>>324014721
Painfully biting their own tongues, apparently.

>>324014721

Ranged classes.

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>>324009074
>Threadly reminder that elves are an abomination and that the only good use we can do from them is to kill the males on the spot and make whores of their women, while making sure that all of the half breeds monsters are given to the dogs as they are born

>>324009852
Icewind Dale wasn't meant to be as in-depth storywise as the BG series. It was touted as a hack n slash style AD&D game when it came out.

So, yes the story did suck. But killing shit was fun.

>>324014721
Bows and magic, sometimes good magic-fighters.

But D&D elves are also good sword-fighters.

>>324014721
>>324014846
>>324012372
Do you retards have to show your autism everytime?

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>>324011609
>mace
>not specifically anti armor

Are you b8n m80?

>>324014941
they make great 2 weapon fighters\rangers

Everything that doesn't require pure STR or CON build.

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>>324014962
Found the race traitor

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>>324013225
>character customization is wasted on piss easy games where the absolute trashiest of builds are viable
Pillars of Eternity, anyone?

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>>324014962
Don't you want to fit in with your epic memes?

>>324014210

>elven ear-armor

I wish to be an elf or atleast a halfbreed

>>324012795
Both Icewind Dales are great. You can get them for cheap as a bundle on GOG pretty often. The enhanced editions are not too bad either but you can just get resolution mods and comfort of life improvement mods on the originals too. Like stacking potions and arrows and such.

Great games, great art, fun fights, great music, great voice acting.

>>324015296
The kit of the EE are too Op for Icewind Dale

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>>324015228
No you don't

>>324009852
Yeah, and those that want talking NPCs and shit can just install NPC mods.

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Why not play a Beholder?
It's almost as if you don't want at will Petrify, Wound, Instanst Death, Paralyze, Telekinesis, Dominate, Disintegrate

>>324015385

still do

Maybe the elven whore in the passiflora my Geralt keeps dicking.

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>mfw 5e d&d half-elf is the most broken shit imaginable

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>>324016454
orcs just want to feed elves

>>324016734
Too bad those are ogres.

>>324014262
I fucking hate when Elves like you try explaining things to me. You're always about this science and noise about physicality.

Why don't you go suck a dick.

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mage

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>>324016870
t-they're somewhat related? besides an elf can't resist getting fed by large stinky subhumans

>>324017158
>t-they're somewhat related?
No, they aren't.

>>324017248
Right?

The only thing they have in common is that they banged your mother.

>>324009074
there are not that many advantages to either of them.
Races/species really are more a matter of taste, unless you go into "races of renown" territory, with its +12 lvl half titan racial templates.

You can play a halfling raging berserker and perform only slightly below a half-orc.

>>324017303
Please, she has a sexual life of over ten thousand years. Those are just a marginalia.

>>324012928
speak for yourself, and only for yourself.

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>>324017408
Me and your mother had sex.

>>324012690
This one's a flanged mace, those were more commonly used to say "fuck you" to chainmail.

>>324017824
I find nothing in the annals about a faggy anon from a mongolian throat singing board that posts other peoples pictures.

FUCK ELVES
HUMAN MASTER RACE

>>324017431
Post moar

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>>324018003
>FUCK ELVES
That seems to be the plan, yes

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>>324018003
>FUCK ELVES

Well that's the idea anon

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>>324018003
>FUCK ELVES
dont mind if i do

>>324018003
>humans
>not dorfs

>>324018669
Houtengeki draws bad elves, the ears are way too short.

>>324018669
Why are elves such whores?

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>>324018819
Try not consuming japanese pornography.

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>>324018818
i agree the ears are a bit small, but everything else is tip top tier

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>>324012725
>halbelf :DD

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>>324020890
forgot this one

>>324018672
>manlet

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>>324018818
What's the official length of elven ears?

>>324009074
You want an Elves stat bonuses for your dex based character, but you don't want your Dwarf obsessed friends calling you a faggot.

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>/v/ likes filthy knife-ears now

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>>324021420
They are qt.

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>part of me wants to love elves
>part of me knows they'll backstab me the moment they get the chance

It just wasn't meant to be bros. I guess i'll join the crusaders.

>>324012372
>not being an immortal superhuman being

why do meme posting tg autists feel the need to ruin every thread?

>playing as male elves
Literally worse than hitler. Narcissist, edgy hitler.

>>324021648
>my meems are fine
>your meems are not
Elflovers a shit

>>324021664
>Dimension Doors behind you
>Unsheathes Elven Longsword
>+1 racial bonus on my roll and slices you in half
heh, nothing personnel, kid

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>>324021624

>>324021902
>it was a conjured self

>>324021802
>my meems are fine
/v/ is actually a meme free zone fa/tg/uy where we think elf rape is a silly obsession

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I thought this was a portrait thread

>>324011462
That's a werewolf m8.

>>324021802
look we could have had a thread about icewind dale and other d&d games, instead we have a meme thread, good job faggot

>>324022193
>implying this thread was ever going to be anything but a 'I want to fuck brown humans with pointy ears'-one

>>324014721
Rape

>>324021902
>>324021962
kek

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Breeding elves all day every day baby.

>>324009074
if we're talking D&D I guess you could go arcane archer without taking penalty to con

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>>324021625
Being addicted to orc cum is a huge penalty though.

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>>324024672
>an hour later

>>324024672
>>324025731
Epic.

>>324009074
Immunity to charm spells. Who cares if you don't get the extra feat.

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>>324024672
>>324025731
every hentai ever

>>324026198
Yeah, it's shit.

>>324025731
Woah, looks like someone went crazy with the whipped cream can.

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>>324026198
And it will never get old.