This guy right here is one of the best characters I've ever met in video games, bar none.
You are seriously a complete fucking retard if you think this made in a basement by one kid on food stamps indie game is part of some sort of grand viral marketing ploy.
Toby couldn't even afford RENT, let alone hiring marketers.
toby didn't pay for shit, he just made a game that reinforces all the ideas progressives have about what games 'should be'
>There are people that seriously believe this
/v/ truly has become a place where children and retards come to hate on popular things in order to receive validation by le big epic 4chan.
>wanting shit games to get ridiculous amounts of praise for checking every single fucking box anthony burch's 'ideal game' list
>implying anyone who hates sjws and tumblrshit is /pol/
He thought everything was going to reset anyway, Sans doesn't have any real motivation to do anything at all until you try to kill every single monster and he realizes you're going to awaken the fallen child.
DONT FUCKING SPEAK BADLY OF UNDERTALE YOU FUCKING CONSOLEPLEBS
UNDERTALE IS A STORY-TELLING MASTERPIECE FULL OF CLEVERLY WRITTEN CHARACTERS THAT ONLY PEOPLE WITH SUFFICIENT EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE CAN UNDERSTAND
He knows about resets, but he doesn't remember experiencing them. He still lives in the present. He had no reason to just stand by and watch it all happen, especially considering he was going to kill you straight away if not for some flimsy promise he made to a woman he never even really met.
"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/.
"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/.
"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/.
"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/.
I'll never understand the crazy love for this game.
I played through it once, or I guess one and a half times since I got the pacifist ending on my first run but had to see the Omega Flowey ending first before it'd let me go back and do Alphys' lab. I got to it before there was any real hype for the game and played it all in one sitting as part of a 24 hour game marathon.
It was a fun game. The writing was goofy and funny at times and the bullet hell-esque parts of the combat was an enjoyable change from what I'm used to. I thought there was some real clever stuff in there; I killed Toriel the first time due to the scripted crit while trying to weaken her according to the game's suggestion and I was actually taken aback by Flowey giving me shit for it after I reloaded and beat that part again.
But the love for the game is fucking fanatical. Like OP thinking Sans is the best character he's ever met in video games. He was a goofy skeleton who had bad jokes and was actually the super secret deadly guy if you pissed him off. I guess he had knowledge about all the "timeline skipping" or whatever you want to call the fourth wall breaking acknowledgement of the player doing multiple runs of the game, but there's nothing especially interesting about him.
DUDE SPAGHETTI AND ANIME LMAO!
TRASHCAN!!!! GONNA HAVE A BAD TIIIME!
>He knows about resets, but he doesn't remember experiencing them.
No, he remembers experiencing a reset, just he doesn't rememeber everything that happened. If you talk to him in the corridor on every run except Genocide and then reset and talk to him again he'll have different dialogue and eventually he'll give you a key to his room.
FUCK OFF JUST FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SHITTY SJW PANDERING MEMEGAME
YOU DONT FUCKING BELONG HERE THIS IS FUCKING PURE UNDISTILLED TUMBLR MATERIAL
SO WHY DONT YOU FAGGOTS GO BACK TO THE SHITHOLE YOU CAME FROM AND CONTINUE TO LIVE IN YOUR DELUDED FANTASYWORLD WHERE UNDERTALE IS ANYTHING MORE THAN A SHITTY BORING RPG MAKER GAME RIDING ON FALSE NOSTALGIA WITH LE EPIC RANDOM LE REDDITFACE UNDER THE PRETENCE OF THEM 'INTERESTING' AND 'QUIRKY' BUT ITS NOTHING MORE THAN 12Y OLD 9GAG HUMOR DELUDING ITSELF TO BE DEEP AND ENLIGHTENING LIKE THOSE FUCKING FACEBOOK KIDDIES WITH THEIR PHILOSOPHICAL QUOTES FROM THE FIRST RESULT ON GOOGLE SEARCH
NONE OF THAT THAT BELONGS ON 4CHAN SO JUST FUCK OFF WITH THIS SHIT
>tfw played through undertale blind on release after thinking the demo was kinda interesting
>was blown away the likes of 999
>any anons that play past the first week will have been so far programmed to think its shit by /v/ that they won't be able to enjoy it
I just feel sorry for you poor anons
It IS a real reset, even if a handful of characters partially remember it happening or feel a sense of deja-vu.
True reset is not even a real reset by your description because there are things that are left over (Chara's possession and the Pacifist ending photo in Sans' lab).
>play through undertale blind
>don't really like it but can respect it as a one man project
>automatically accused of being a contrarian that only hates it because it's popular
Played it on release before anyone knew anything about the game
It was pretty good, goty material in these shit times
But /v/'s blind hate for the game is just bafflingly absurd. So many anons won't be able to enjoy the game because of everything they've heard here about it.
A lot of it isn't blind hate. A lot of people think it's pretty good 7/10 game, but recognize that it's not even close to the greatest thing ever and get annoyed when people insistently prop it up as such. It's not the game, it's the fanbase. If you want someone to blame for turning everything to shit, blame the diehards.
I played the prerelease demo too, thinking back it was probably just Toby viraling.
Was kinda interested but its release went under my radar, once I saw Dunkey's vid about it I decided to pirate it and just thought it was pretty ok. Hardly worthy of GoTY, even though it was a really shitty year Bloodborne and MGSV were pretty good.
However Undertale is less like a full RPG than it is a narratively driven game or "walking simulator" with some token RPG elements. The game is aggressively linear, with almost no diverging paths. At its core it's purely a rail roaded tour, a straight line that you can travel as quickly or as slowly as you like, your only real reward for exploring being the dialogue and flavour text of everything around you. And herein lies the first fault of the game in my opinion. much of the game's attempts at humour are purely to take jabs at otherwise established RPG conventions and mock them from the perspective of the in world characters. You can't sell things at a store because of course you can't it isn't a pawnshop and you're selling a used band aid. The innkeeper gives you a refund because you were only asleep for two minutes, puzzles are mechanisms specifically designed and calibrated by enemies as well as referred to as such, a jeer at ancient temples in adventure games being full of inexplicable block pushing and light reflecting sections. The game has a bad habit of finding one joke it likes and running it into the ground before adopting another and doing the same. A game that is primarily a comedy that fails to make me laugh due to repetition is an obvious hurdle to trip over, but I understand that some people found the game quite funny so perhaps I just have a different taste in comedy which is totally possible as I think Home Movies is hilarious.
A number of characters clearly remember saving and loading. It doesn't wipe virtually everything and start you back at the beginning, which is what sans wanted at the end, but has no memories of ever experiencing for himself. A reset like that may as well be the same as death for the characters living in that playthrough, so I fail to see why sans doesn't do anything until the last second.
>defending obsessive tumblrinas
It's the difference between enjoying something and taking it to the extreme while shoving it down everyone's throat and shitting on everything else. People are allowed to not like the game without having people harp on them for it, claim they never played it or that they don't have a soul. People are allowed to get irked when it's repeatedly praised as the greatest game ever, beyond perfect, and a middle finger to all other video games.
Seriously speaking why do people even like this guy? I mean sure he has a really good fight but his brother has more character than him and the fish bitch and his bro made shit at least a little entertaining with the phonecalls.
Or was it muh lore
Fucking "muh bad time" is quickly reaching "cake is a lie" levels of cringy.
I feel like I'm lucky for being so unwilling to play the game before.
But now I can't help but be incredibly curious into how the game actually is, such as story, gameplay, and characters.
Is this some kind of super duper secret viral marketing scheme?
REMOVE UNDERTALE THREADS
generic power of friendship trash
90%hallways and cutscenes, no exploration, no meaningful rpg elements, fun boss fights and interesting battle syste,
lolrandumb sphaghetti anime memelord bullshit
>mfw merely mentioning Undertale throws /v/ into a fucking frenzy
>Go on /v/ for the first time since maybe October or something
>People are STILL discussing this shit
Areas: Tutorial land was underdeveloped. Snow land was actually really good, with "You're blue now" being the climax of the game. The underground area was boring and barely had anything in it, but Undyne was a decent fight. Hotland was complete shit. The Core was literally empty.
Routes: Genocide was a chore, but the Sans fight was probably one of the only fights which was actually fun. Pacifist was shit all the way through, including the final boss. Neutral was bland, and the 'epic so scary' Flowey fight was unimpressive. The reset gimmick was interesting.
Overall, 7/10. It could have been a lot better, and I thought that while it had some cool gimmicks, it was overall forgettable. I'm really surprised that people still care about this frankly average experience. Do you people even play games?
I'll mention that I completed the game a couple times on Neutral before doing it on Pacifist, then doing Genocide, then Genocide-Pacifist, then deleted the Genocide marker and did Pacifist again. I did the secret bosses and got behind that door in Snow land. I played the game all the way through, it just wasn't all that great. Don't do that stupid /v/ thing where you accuse me of not liking it because I """"probably"""" didn't play it to the end.
>whines about people still discussing this shit
>followed by an entire paragraph of discussion
While the battles aren't true bullet hells, bullet hells are focused on dodging, and you don't do any shooting so it ain't a shmup. It's the closest quick term we have, so people use it instead of saying "Dodging minigame".
It was a nice subversion of expectations. Everything up until then had been comfy, but I sort of thought I had the game 'figured out'. Getting hit by that attack and suddenly wondering what the hell was going on made me laugh, and it impressed me. If the game had kept pulling stuff like that instead of turning into Hotland, it would have been a great game. Unfortunately, it only got worse.
>Be surprised that people are still talking about a game
>Explain why I'm surprised that people are still talking about a game
Hi, I don't give a shit about Undertale, I stopped playing after the first "fight" (I came to this thread because I liked the look of the pic)
I don't see any evidence of a grand conspiracy pushing undertale, the acclaim from the game came largely from word of mouth exchanges.
However on /v/ there's a clear agenda of hatred toward the game, any attempt at discussing it (even in a nebulous context like shitting on IGN for jumping on the review bandwagon), is met with threads full of shitposts and "undermeme" replies.
The only actual negative criticism of the game itself that I've seen came from John Walker, the big old leftie who owns/runs RPS.
There's no conspiracy here dipshit and the only co-ordinated effort appears to be your own.
I don't care about the game but I do wish /v/ didn't always have about 3 threads up made of people shitposting how much they hate it
Haha, I'm glad that we are all having such a fun time, haha!
I hope you all have a pleasant day today, haha!
>I'll mention that I completed the game a couple times on Neutral before doing it on Pacifist, then doing Genocide, then Genocide-Pacifist, then deleted the Genocide marker and did Pacifist again
w-why. not even the most obnoxious assholes in their fanbase probably finished it that many times.
>/v/ has people so contrarian that they join the love bandwagon just because it's trendy to hate Undertale on /v/.
Let that sink in.
game is a solid 6/10 for me. Badlands dragged the while game down
>I stopped playing after the first "fight"
>proceeds to go on a ramble about things he doesn't know shit about
I see you're striving for a position in gaming journalism, huh?
I tend to play games thoroughly. It's ridiculously short anyway. You only really need to read most of the flavor text once, so replaying a route takes very little time, and the puzzles/methods of defeating enemies don't change between routes, so that's not too bad. Most of the items and stuff can be skipped as well if you know how to dodge.
I forgot to add that I did my last pacifist run without saving. That was to see if the ending changed from not using 'determination' and to see if not dying would affect the Sans/Flowey conversations. This was before people knew all the limits of what the game could know, so I was trying to find new content. It was also probably the fastest run, since Pacifist battles are so short.
>I'll post an Undertale thread again!
>Someone disagrees with my opinion!
>I better call them a manchild!
I thought you hugbox SJWs were supposed to inclusive and understanding? Take your gay rights mascot and please leave.
Undertale is terrible.
1) The graphics aren't on par with even the 16-bit era.
2) The gameplay isn't innovative at all. Instead of choosing the 'fight' option you choose 'not fight' if you are so inclined. The Persona and SMT games did the 'Talk to not fight' mechanic way before this tripe ever existed.
3) Mini bullet hell to avoid damage is a tacked-on mechanic.
4) The 'meta' storyline people go on about has been done before in plenty of video games - MGS series, Manhunt, Spec Ops, Eternal Darkness.
5) The soundtrack is ok.
So you see, the only thing you guys really like is the Toriel furryporn because the rest of the game is garbage!
Yeah because knowledge of the game is really necessary to see that all the "SJW conspiracy" posts are horseshit
The threads shitting on the game never actually mention problems with the game, just problems with you likes it
>tfw you love undertale and there is literally NOTHING /v/ can do to make you hate it
>here is the evidence for why my opinions are facts
>he just made a game that reinforces all the ideas progressives have about what games 'should be'
Isn't taht what you retards say people should do? Make the games they want to see?
You're a fucking dickweed.
>The Persona and SMT games did the 'Talk to not fight' mechanic way before this tripe ever existed.
You couldn't actually finish the game by just talking though could you?
Talking in SMT was really just for recruiting, even if you talked your way out of every single fight you'd still die at the first boss because you haven't levelled
>caring about graphics in a pixelated game
I don't even like undertale but JUST
>H-hey post an actual argument!
>Posts an actual argument
>H-hey your opinions aren't facts
>I c-can't have a legitimate discussion
>Better use the 'autism' post
I never stated that these are 'facts'. You're just butthurt you're incapable of addressing my argument with actual counterpoints.
Every time, never fails. Way to defend your shitty game Underfags.
>you can't criticize the graphics in a pixel game
Yes, I can. There are good pixelated games and then there's Undertale.
Pic related. Good pixels. Way to argue fgt.
>A game can't have good pixel art or bad pixel art, if it's pixelated you should just drop all standards and accept it
I can't criticize this game anymore without being accused of disliking it because it's popular, not having feelings or some other assumption about my character that has nothing to do with my actual arguments.
I don't know if that's the fault of the trolls or the drooling fanboys. Probably a bit of both.
But it did. Even for the time. It was mostly programmer art and the Pokemon looked like monstrosities that didn't even resemble what they were supposed to. The programmers admitted it. It wasn't until G/S/C that they started having better artists.
Nope. Come up with a real argument other than a buzzword.
>bitching about graphics in a 16bit game
you are just being retarded.also the art direction is really great in my opinion.
>other games did it so this game bad
by that definition 90% of the games out there are shit.
what the fuck are you even talking about its a core gameplay element.
the soundtrack is fucking great and ties the whole game together.
So you see,you only dislike this game so much to fit in with the /v/ hive mind because you can't form your own opinions.
fucking dickweed gaylord
Pokemon at least had some semblance of detail and shading in its graphics. Undertale just picks a single color, uses the MSPaint fill tool and calls it a day.
Stop being a retard.
>calling samefag when two of the posts were created within the same minute
I can though. We're discussing our opinions, or at least attempting to do so. Fox's 'design choice' for the graphics are garbage in my opinion. They were clearly inspired by Earthbound and they failed to even match a game that was released over 20 years ago.
>But it did. Even for the time. It was mostly programmer art and the Pokemon looked like monstrosities that didn't even resemble what they were supposed to. The programmers admitted it. It wasn't until G/S/C that they started having better artists.
Maybe you should consider that the game was mostly made by one person.
You're autistic, though, and feel the need to flood the thread with the same reply over and over.
I thought they were inconsistent, like almost everything else in Earthbound.
Atmospheric and beautiful (for a lo-fi indie game, anyway) one minute and sloppy, lazy and ugly the next. The same goes for the writing and music.
>1) You can't bitch about graphics in a 16 bit game
Yes, I can. There were a variety of art styles in the SNES and Genesis era. Some were great, some were shit. Just because it's '16-bit' doesn't mean I can't criticize it. Invalid argument.
>2) By that definition 90% of the games out there are shit
This 'mechanic' is lauded by Undertale fans. I'm addressing the point that it isn't particularly innovative. I didn't say it was 'shit'. Again, invalid argument.
>3) Core gameplay element
They threw in the dodging mini game in a JRPG style game. It's not a core gameplay element of the JRPG style. It's tacked on.
>4) See 2
Again, Undertale fans drool over the 'meta' when it's been done before. I didn't say it was 'shit' specifically. Just part of the reason why the game as a whole is shit.
Shouldn't you be in school son?
it artificially extends battles and makes it a fucking bore if you ever played a shmup in your life
its to make up for the lack of actual RPG mechanics, acting and fighting are functionally the same except that fighting will actually makes the game more bearable as it ends encounters quicker
Maybe you should consider that it was a conscious decision for Toby to do all the art himself when he's a musician and not an artist.
He even made a ton of kickstarter money, hired an artist, but barely had them do anything, still stubbornly insisting to do most of it himself. Just because it ended up being mostly made by one person doesn't mean it had to be that way or that it's immune to criticism.
>dat piston action
>They threw in the dodging mini game in a JRPG style game. It's not a core gameplay element of the JRPG style. It's tacked on.
lmao this is such a bullshit argument
It's a core element of Undertale, not a core element of jrpgs you dipshit
Was ATB "tacked on" because time contrainsts weren't a fucking "core element" of the genre?
fuck off son
stop fucking making Undertale threads the game was fucking discussed from start to end about everything just fucking stop
>there are people who believe this bullshit
top kek, good that i'm not retarded
both Undertale's fanbase and hatebase are fucking retarded
it should be banned from /v/ to be in the OP
>the average mindset of an underfag is that people who hate the game hate it because its popular and not because its a boring piece of shit with DUDE QUIRKY LMAO characters
>I don't read the entire post before I reply
Your entire argument consists of a game on;y being allowed to be a pure example of the genre
Having the player be able to avoid damage isn't "artificially" doing anything, it's breaking away from the traditional genre game by adding an active element.
This doesn't restrict the player, it gives them more power within the game
>Was ATB "tacked on" because time contrainsts weren't a fucking "core element" of the genre?
no because it feels natural
yeah thanks to toby's ebin twitter posts no one can criticize the game anymore
>It's a core element of Undertale, not a core element of jrpgs you dipshit
That's what he's saying.
And I agree with him in that it's bad. The fact that a core element doesn't hold a candle to other examples of that kind of gameplay isn't good.
Yeah those autists discussing the game
Furry horseshit doesn't count because it's not being posted on 4chan. you don't get to claim to be reacting to that by shitting up threads that never had it
this will be my last post because you are to autistic to held a decent argument with.
fine you don't like the graphics its your opinion i really liked the art direction and for me the game is visually pleasing.
then the only other 2 arguments you have for why the game is bad is because the fans praise it for things other video games done before.
while maybe it makes the game overrated its in no way any indication to the quality of the game.
its clear that you are a retarded drone that haven't even played the game but saw sjw boogieman posts on /v/ about it and you try way to hard to hate on it to fit in.
the only child here is you with your inability to form your own opinions.
battles consist entirely of pressing one button then dodging shit, it's fucking annoying and it definitely doesn't deserve the label of RPG
ultima ONE has more variables than fucking undertale
He's talking about le fatty fedora meme guy m8
Yeah and what he's saying is irrelevant
You don't judge something by it's genre. The Merchant of Venice isn't bad because it doesn't fit with the traditional trappings of a dramatic comedy
Judging something against it's genre instead of against how good it actually is in of itself is retarded
>you have different opinions than me
>I can't counter your points legitimately
>CLEARLY YOU ARE AUTISTIC
Every. Fucking. Time
>Judging something against it's genre instead of against how good it actually is in of itself is retarded
But if the core mechanic isn't actually good in of itself, then that's a problem.
It's novel, it's original, it's interesting, but it's not well implemented and if you've ever played a half-decent shmup it will make you want to poke your eyes out.
The funny thing about /v/ is despite most anons generally despising SJW involvement in the industry, the only thing it does is discuss that. And only that. I'm not seeing a lot of discussion about Undertale as a game, only about the meta industry politics and lobbying associated with it.
>Metal Slug and SNK fighters aren't games
That's because the PC "master race" will never, ever have bloodborne and spent 5k to play indie garbage.
no it fucking not, read the thread,
the fanbase spouts autistic bullshit that is not true to rate the game 9/10
the hate base spouts autistic bullshit that is not true to rate the game 1/10
they are both as bad and Undertale is such a cancer that i can't even like the game anymore
the threads are made by the same Tumblrite trying to put Undertale everywhere
people that really like the game would like this shit to stop, i just want it to die already
I find it highly amusing that you think any of those images will convince a rational minded person to dislike Undertale. It appears you have been quite unsuccessful in your goal.
It's not Toby, it's the cultural marxists who see that this game is perfect to push forward to gain more control over games. Toby is just the useful idiot here.
Why would they do that, you ask? But you have to understand that cultural marxism relies on the idea that all culture exists to subversively guide people's thoughts to someone's interest and they want to be ones who have control over all that. So yes, because games have became a big thing, they certainly want to use them as a vessel for spreading their values.
If you have actually seen the data and believe that, you must be pretty bad at reading graphs. The only data that exists relating to countries shows the PERCENTAGE of votes for a game in a certain country. 100% of 1 is still 1. If 1 person in Iraq voted on the poll and voted for Undertale, 100% of Iraq voters voted for Undertale.
Most of the votes were from America and Europe.
yeah i'm sure he's crying into his pile of money because some retarded faggots on 4chan think his game is shit
i like to think he has deep-seated regrets about letting the butterdragon touch his game, but he's denied it
The conspiracy theory is false, but Tumblr did raid the polls with bots to make Undertale win.
They pretty much did the same thing /v/ did with Einstein and Launchpad, and what /b/ did with "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong" Mt. DEW, and pretty much every poll ever.
Only difference is 4chan did it for the luls. Tumblr did it with a social justice agenda, and cause they have shit taste.
They're dumb though, cause everyone noticed the poll was rigged and it beat out far better games, causing large swathes of the gaming community to loathe Undertale fans.
no, both Undertalefags and anti-Undertalefags are the cancer that generates when the OP that is probably the same tumblrite that creates ever undertale thread that is killing /v/, just to make an Undertal thread be filled by shitposting, maybe the same that posts>>324013928
to trigger anti-undertale fags
i just can't like the game anymore
i want it to be banned from all OPs eternally
Judging by the amount of false-flagging for Undertale there is on 4chan, I wouldn't be surprised if people from 4chan did most of the botting just to have fuel to throw on this shitty fire.
>BAAAAAWWWWWWWW IM SUCH A NEWFAG I CAN'T EVEN FILTER THREADS
He made a hack you dumb tumblrite
So yes he did know exactly what was going to happen to this game too but instead of owning up to it, he's acting like he never knew it was going to happen
>making an irrelevant hack that never got attention and was abandoned means anything
it doesn't matter if what he made was successful or not, he knew the type of audience those things attract and modeled undertale to attract those same people but now he's on twitter acting like he doesn't know what the fuck is going on
I'm still pretty surprised that admin's post wasn't screencapped though. I though people would be all over it. Now it seems like all the discussion about the poll is gone and I can't find it again.
>play it on release
>like it a lot
>secretly hope noone else finds out how good it was
>everyone finds out
>everyone ruins it
>People talk about Flowey and post Toriel porn, good threads last for about a month and then die down just like every other decent indie game
>People talk about SJWs and internet polls, meta-culture bullshit, autism-posting
I want neo-/v/ to leave.
both Undertalefags and antiUndertalfags are being cancer
if the same Tumblrite OP who makes 3 threads per day would fucking stop this shit /v/ would be fucking better about Undertale
>not recognizing donut-man
when did i say it was the second coming of christ
all i said is that undertale is false-flagged constantly on /v/ to start shit-posting wars, as evidenced by this very thread we are posting in at this very second
Tumblr did not bot the poll. It was simply a LOT of votes from tumblr, reddit, and twitter. GameFAQs isn't a particularly big gaming site anymore. It's not a stretch to believe that the Undertale fanbase is significantly bigger.
Fuck off. OP literally just said "I like this character" and then people go full autism. We get it, you get very, very upset when people talk about games you don't like. We understand that, while being new to 4chan, you don't quite understand what that - icon in the corner is for, so you tend to avoid it. But we'd appreciate it if you didn't come into threads about games you've never played and don't enjoy just to talk about the fucking fanbase of all things.
Quick where's that tweet about not wanting discussion to turn into a cesspool
>discussing a video game
OP is a fucking Tumblrite, and wants to put Undertale everywhere, he is probably the one that makes 3 UT threads per day, just go look at the catalog,he is probably the one that post the conspiracy ones, to trigger anti undertale fags, and so they start fighting the Undertalefags, both sides are wrong, but can't stop fighting, it's all in OP's secret master plan
yes, clearly they are pushing an agenda against the supreme master race with an ulterior motive of shilling instead of trying (with you not filtering threads, successfully) to trigger /v/.
aand the first post is right again
>Tumblr does the exact same shit 4chan does
>B-but we're cool when we did it!
Admit it, kiddo, they're the same as you. Once you step out of your comfy little "us vs them" bubble you'll realize that you're the exact same kind of shithead that hangs out on tumblr.
...And nobody does? Only place I've seen any real complaining is on GameFAQs proper, because "Oh no our site has been defiled."
Undertale winning the IGN poll was a much bigger deal. Not sure why the haters aren't bitching about that one instead. Perhaps because they realize what shaky ground they're arguing on already.
>it was a good year for games
nice joke, 2015 was fucking shit.
the fact that UT is a serious contender for GOTY is saying a lot.
It wouldn't be even close to GOTY material in literally any other year
>implying a one man indiedevs first game is EA tier markeded and promoted
if its good it will promote itself,
It's been reported on by several other major sites and is often used as evidence of the game's popularity and to prove how good it is. People gave more fucks about that poll than they did IGN awarding it a 10/10.
>calling someone retarded and using an UT reaction pick
Go fuck yourself underage I'm not going to do your homework for you there are hundreds of games with better characters than this meme game that's shelled by children and faggots that don't know any better.
I can see it making top 100 lists and then slowly falling dropping each year until it is forgotten. It's Portal all over again.
And we already have a "Citizen Kane of gaming", it's LoZ: Ocarine of Time. High rated game that came out just before internet gaming sites became big so it will always be at the top.
too bad you didn't show effort yourself in the first place
i wrote it in a pretty stupid way but how else could you explain one Undertale thread every hour, plus that in every thread the guy that posts the conspiracy things is always the 3rd post? how is it that when he post that he is alway the one to start the heavy shit?
my theory is not perfect but makes lots of sense
I'm with you it has some good writing and okay music and combat but it's nothing special the background graphics could of done with a complete overhaul as it looks like shit.
I give it 4/10 good not great.
They could name literally anyone. It doesn't matter. It's all opinions. I could name Link, Mario, and Sonic and you wouldn't be able to prove me wrong, just like I can't prove OP wrong.
Can all of this shit just end already?
At least you'd give your own opinion instead of just saying "NUH UH IT'S NOT TRUE."
That's what this thread should have been. People discussing their favorite video game characters. But because someone dared to like Undertale, shitposters galore.
Here's a better theory:
People create Undertale threads because it's a popular game.
The conspiracy idiot lives on /v/ and keeps an eye out for new Undertale threads to shitpost in.
The real agenda people need to be worried about Undertale pushing is the pro-spear, anti-sword agenda. Think about it, the only character who uses swords is made out to be a bumbling fool, while every spear wielder is shown to be powerful, strong, competent. OPEN YOUR EYES, SHEEPLE.
>People create Undertale threads because it's a popular game.
>the game has been discussed from start to end various times, it's not a very big game
>we still have 5 UT threads per day
>Conspiracy idiot ALWAYS post close to the OP in every thread
your theory a shit
>Who's your favorite video game character and why?
It's not that hard. Anyone with a few brain cells should know that their thread is already going to get shit if they post someone from undertale, so to go a step further and assert that they are one of the best, if not the best, bar none, is just a blatant attempt to stir shit up.
i have played it, i have been in every thread before critical cancer levels like this
and it hasn't too much to discuss for whole months, literally everything should have been discussed at this point
by the way >>324019135 it's not me
>two months after game released
>people slowly catching to it because no marketing and unappealing visuals
>even the press starts writing articles
>autistic purists and /pol/tards flip their shit
>go on endless tirades about how shit it is
>people recognize a trigger point and start abusing it for the (you)s
a mute have more character the characters from a dialog driven game?
hes as good as mute, if you exclude Mama mia etc, agian, not much of character to be honest
he have way more character and charisma in the old TV series
fair enough, tho they dont as strong personalities as the ones in undertale in
When I put all those annotations on that video I didn't expect the memes to become this activate
I never understood the "unappealing visuals" thing, even though a ton of reviewers complain about that. Looks pretty good to me; I think 2D graphics age quite well. Is it really just because it's not some AAA 3D game like Assassin's Creed or something?
Gamers are ready for well-rounded characters and storylines that don't push ideologies
Ya blew it
Whether they're mute or not doesn't mean anything, they're defined by their actions. Even if they were literal potatoes in a coma people could still assert that they're their favorite video game characters and they wouldn't be wrong.
Everyone's just getting upset over worthless opinions from people they neither know, nor care about.
The art is good in a way. It's very expressive where it needs to be. But seeing just couple screenshots from the ruins and Papyrus, and it really shouldn't make anyone go "wow, this looks like the hottest shit ever"
I can't really tell, but I'm just going to assume this is bait. It doesn't matter how many secrets their are, and there really aren't that many compared to a lot of games, undertale is still incredibly short, simplistic and small in scale.
>implying i don't
all the Fun value and Gaster and Sans & Papyrus origin leads to nothing, and nothing makes me angrier than a secret to the lore that is not well explained and leads to nothing, it's just a lazy way to say "you though this leaded to something? well it doesn't, you overthought it"
Muramasa? Really? Undertale is somewhere in between NES and SNES tier, with SNES games looking vastly better. I understand undertale has a style to it and is somewhat expressive, but the art quality is not good.
Think this was the one screenshot I saw first of Undertale. I know that it didn't look this broken in the actual game when I played it, I guess it isn't necessarily ugly, but it could be quite crude still.
then let me redifine
link has less character then the shopkeepers in undertale
he doesnt state his opinions, he rarly shows his emotions, exept a glare now and then when the big badguy shows up. to put it in terms that many of you can relate to, thats about as much character as the silent guy sitting by himself in the school cafeteria. lackluster
that's because all UT threads are made by the same Tumblrite that makes 1 thrad/hour that is the same one that post the conspiracy shit 3 posts away from the OP to trigger Undertalefags and start the fucking wars in which Undertale fags spout bullshit saying the game is 10/10 and anti-Undertalefags pout bullshit saying it's a 0/10 game
it's all part of his plan
>There are people seriously arguing that Undertale isn't ugly as hell
It's fine that it's ugly. It's like those shitty eroge games from a decade ago with lousy soundtracks, graphics, and gameplay but which you can tell were made by a couple guys in a garage who wanted to make something cool. Undertale is not in any way polished or aesthetically impressive, but that gives it a nostalgic feel which is nice in its own way and it makes the moments of gud grapics feel much cooler.
Go ahead and tell me - if Undertale doesn't look shitty, then what does? It's literally MS Paint: The Game almost the whole way through. I challenge you to find a pixel game which is even less aesthetic.
Character is defined as so much more than just dialogue. You can glean quite a bit about Link's personality through his actions.
Going by your logic, Frisk would be even more lackluster since you hardly see them interact with anything in any meaningful way due to the simplicity of the game and art.
>she will never pin you down and force herself between your legs while smiling that crooked smile of hers
Why even live?
>like those shitty eroge games from a decade ago with lousy soundtracks, graphics, and gameplay
>Character is defined as so much more than just dialogue
but, what are Links actions? goes to dungeons and beat shit up. all that can be said is that hes brave, scared of flirting with fish girl, and through that players hand being a dick and breaking all the vases in the kingdom.
Frisk through the players hand can be a silent ruthless killer or a chatfull friendly character
The best part about all this shit is it's just shitposters shitposting shitposters
Literally every Undertale thread made in the last month was made with the sole purpose of shitposting and baiting.
Then you get people who either don't get this and think the thread was made by someone who likes the game or dont care come in to shitpost the shitpost thread.
This is /v/ now. Get used to it because we will see Undertale shit threads for a long time
I've seen you in every undertale thread on /v/ recently. You are starting to approach Barneyfag levels of autism.
Listen, compared to Undertale most games that are called RPGs barely are roleplaying games anymore.
Hear me out on this.
Skyrim has no roles to play in anymore. You can join the Dark Brotherhood, Thieves Guild without repercussions. Your reputation doesn't suffer at all except for maybe the odd, non-sequiteur comment from a guard. You can be a badass magician, sword-,axe-, bow-, daggerfighter, you can make godtier armour etc. You can realisticly get all your skills to 100. You essentially have no role to play in, neither morally nor mechanics wise.
Fallout 4 has the same problem. It's a first person shooter with mild rpg elements: Finding the same armour or weapon with "magically" different stats. You are always either the mother or father of the villain and you are stuck in those roles. There's hardly any role to define or play in.
Undertale at least gives you 2-3 different playstyles that change the game radically. It's a relatively short and linear game, but at least it doesn't throw you into a big, basically empty world with nothing do besides fetch quests. It judges you on your actions. When you kill monsters, the others become afraid of you and will judge you accordingly. You actually have a reputation that changes.
If you spare every one, people will change their opinions on humans.
Both these routes lead to different games in terms of mood, setting, gameplay and outcome. It's a lot better than most every so-called rpg out there today.
Yeah, at this point just completely banning Undertale threads from this sub would be the sensible thing to do. I mean, it's not like this tornado of shitposting is going to get better through repetition.
> this sub
Why don't ban video game discussion on /v/ VIDEO GAMES in general? It always leads to shitposting of some kind.
I suggest that people that don't like the game for superficial or sophisticated reasons either hide the thread or don't descent into shit posting. Why?
Sometimes you can have a decent Undertale thread. People discuss secrets in the game, how they played it, what they liked best, themes and motifs etc. Enter shitposters who just call everyone who likes the game a tumblrfag (which as we know, there can be no third position between two extremes) and that annoys people in the thread who actually played the game.
I initially avoided the game because of the articles and accusations of SJW pandering. Turns out the game wasn't like that at all. "90% of the cast is gay" Well Alphys and Undyne are. They aren't 90% though. Toriel and Asgore had/have a heterosexual marriage and they had children. Metaton EX might look a little feminine with the long legs and the outfit, but that just reminds me of shitty anime melodrama outfits. By the way, not everything that has to do with crossdressing is SJW pandering. I don't think anyone would accuse Twisted Sister of that despite having a cross-dressing frontman.
While I'm against pushing SJW propaganda into everything, I'm also against hunting witches and seeing the SJW boogeyman behind every corner.
Mettaton just wants to be fabulous. Who are we to judge him for it?
Good post overall. At least some people are smart enough to recognize that the internet often blatantly misrepresents things.
There are days in which there are no Undertale threads at all. Fuck off. Not every game that gets a series of threads equals out to League of Legends General #245395238580421029.