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Where the fuck is the Shin Megami Tensei in this game? I don't

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Where the fuck is the Shin Megami Tensei in this game? I don't see shit related to it.
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Where the fuck is Fire Emblem in this game? I don't see shit related to it.
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oranges + apples = ???
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>>323977597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE

right here
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It has nothing to do with SMT. It's literally made by the guys who worked on SMT tho.
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>>323977469
Because its NOT a SMT game. This game is a collaboration between Atlus and Intelligent Systems mixing elements from both SMT/Persona and Fire Emblem.
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>>323977469
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>>323977825
but why
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if the game comes over and doesn't do well because of butthurt, will I be able to buy it cheaper earlier?
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FAAAIYAAA EMBUREM
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>>323977962
You get a hug from Tiki!
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>>323977469
>it's another #FE shitposting thread
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>>323977697
Grapes, obviously.
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Gameplay, setting of modern Japan, some tiny easter eggs, and the developers.

Otherwise, nothing.
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>Tfw no one remembers the actual SMT x FE games for the NES
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>>323977469
It isnt, since the game is called Genei Ibunroku FE, im guessing in the future maybe they'll do a Genei Ibunroku SMT.
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>>323978347
How do you post about shit without shitposting?
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>>323977697
A fruit that looks like a blue apple on the outside, but looks like a lemon on the inside, but tastes like a pear.
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>>323978549
Majin Tensei was actually for the SNES.
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>>323977697
Oranges + Apples is oranges and apples, you dunce
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>>323978609
(you)
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Does anyone have the JP lyrics to the full Reincarnation? That's all I really care about.
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>>323978550
That already happened
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>>323978751
Best I could do.
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>>323978751
What you need it for? Kareoke?
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>>323978914
I guess I can try to work with that. Thanks, anon.
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>>323977874
If it's not a Megami Tensei game why are demons specific to that franchise included?

It's definitely MT related, there is no way around it.
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>>323979132
Would you mind transcribing them? I can't really make out what some of the kanji is supposed to be.
http://imgur.com/a/1KIxE
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>>323979178
>Jack Frost is on a vending machine so it's an SMT game!
That's not how company mascots work
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>>323979445
If it were ONLY that sure. The enemies in the game are MT enemies though.

You just don't want it to be for who knows what reason.

Why do severely autistic people have issues with what is SMT and what isn't?
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>>323979541
>The enemies in the game are MT enemies though.
I have literally not seen one thing with an actual SMT character
Mind posting a screenshot or something?
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>>323977825
wat
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>>323979634
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>>323977469
The SMT part died when they decided to make a FE game about idols instead of the crossover project Nintendo announced.
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>>323980150
>DLC costumes
He said enemies from MegaTen anon
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>>323977825
never gets old. I don't get why people don't like this
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>>323981620
Would you feel comfortable playing this game in front of your parents?
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>>323977469
Do you see Shin Megami Tensei ANYWHERE in that title?

It says Gennei Ibunroku #FE, redditor piece of shit
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cant wait for it to get "localized" by NoA
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>>323977469
dude you and 3 more weabos piece of shit care about this game . get over it
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>>323982101
>bad dub
>no dual audio
>they have more clothing altered

I can't wait for it to flop.
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>>323977469
Gotta remember that they changed it completely. The only reason it's still FE related is due to the use of characters as their Mirages. There's no hint of an actual, interesting crossover here any more.
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>>323981961
>implying anyone is comfortable jacking off while watching porn with their parents.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE
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I'm really excited for this game. It looks like fun.
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>>323981961
>watching porn
>Playing videogames

i hate the fact that fanservice in games make them look like pandering porn
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>>323977469
Uh, the spell names are still Agi, Dia, Mudo, etc. And, er....
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>>323977469
It has SMT combat skills and demons. Looks pretty smt to me.
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>>323984335
That makes it about as smt as persona, which is to say not at all.
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>>323980150
Is that Aegis on the right?
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>>323984335
>Demons
Show me where
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Does anyone have the full version of the duet between NanjoIno and Minase Inori?
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>>323987437
Haven't seen it in youtube, maybe I haven't looked hard enough
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>>323987676
Yeah that's why I asked, I already got BLACK RAIN and KOWASHITAI.

Black Rain is too good.
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>>323987787
I like Beastie Game and Dream Catcher most, the other tracks that I've heard aren't as catchy to me.
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>>323977874
>Because its NOT a SMT game

then why was it marketed as one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA

and still called SMT x FE on other sites:
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/01/05/last-week-in-sales-shin-megami-tensei-x-fire-emblem-makes-its-debut/
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>>323987437
>>323987787
The only tracks that have full versions so far are Reincarnation, Feel, Black Rain, Dream Catcher, Beastie Game, and Dia Witch. The rest will be on an album releasing the tenth of next month
http://avex.jp/sharpfe/#
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>>323990091
nice
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>>323977874
>can't even romance best girl

fucking DROPPED
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>>323990723
It's the Japanese Entertainment Industry, anon. Romancing is literally not allowed.
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>>323977469
Obligatory
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>>323990936

so you expected DnD?
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>>323977469
>bombed harder than the enola gay
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>>323978609
By removing the shit.

So leave.
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>>323985989
But Persona is very SMT
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do i live in a different universe or something? since when was fire emblem and smt not full of weeaboo games?
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>>323977469
i just started playing this game. this is more SMT than FE just like PQ was more EO than persona.
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>>323979118
Yep.

That said, I believe I've got it written out in runes from that scan.

壊したい 大事そうに抱えた私を全部
キミがこの孤独を痛みを癒すの
Reincarnation
Realization
Reincarnation 消えてしまいたい

眠らない街のざわめき
愛想笑いの憂鬱
本音なんて いつかどこか
見えないふり

誰だって不安なんてそんな
言われなくてもわ かってる

壊したい大事そうに抱えた強がりなんて
でも素直になれない
迷っても悩んでもキミが求めるなら
せめてこの孤独を痛みを壊して
Reincarnation
Realization
Reincarnation 生まれ変わりたい

青い空は窮屈に
上辺だけを映し出す
この未来を ずっとずっと
ぼやかしてる

曖昧に繋がる世界は
深い傷さえあざ笑う

どれくらい 苦しめばいいの?
もがけばいいの?
まだ答えが見えない
教えて!真実をキミが知ってるなら
ガラスみたいな心 欠片を探すの
キミが・・・

どんなに暗闇でも キミが 照らそうとするから
蜃気楼みたいな希(のぞ)みを 信じてしまう

壊したい大事そうに抱えた強がりなんて
でも素直になれない
迷っても悩んでもキミが求めるなら
せめてこの孤独を痛みを

どれくらい 苦しめばいいの?
もがけばいいの?
まだ答えが見えない
教えて!真実をキミが知ってるなら
ガラスみたいな心 欠片を探すの
Reincarnation
Realization
Reincarnation 孤独を壊して
Reincarnation
Realization
Reincarnation 生まれ変わりたい
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>>323992891
Do you have the song to compare it to to verify it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iON8LyXYmBc
Think you could do the other ones? Their also on that guys channel.
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>>323992686
What do you mean by weeaboo? Do you even know?
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>>323977469
>I don't see shit related to it
The weeb gameplay design doesn't ring a bell?

The response to this game is still hilarious to me. It's like people forgot that SMT was always weebshit. Change it from grimdark to colorful and all of a sudden memory loss occurs.
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>>323977825
So it's a fire emblem opera?
that's not as bad as people here are making it seem. it's got songs and tits
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>>323993118
Not him but Japanese games (what I assume he means by weebshit) have a distinct way about them, especially their presentation. The shit this game is doing is completely in line with that but because it's not exactly what they expected from a crossover title they're choosing to forget that.
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>>323992879
Story themes and characters are FE, gameplay is SMT.
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>>323981961
>playing vidya in front of your parents
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>>323993441
I don't see any similarity in the presentation style of #FE and SMT.
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>>323993301
>SMT
>Weebshit

Maybe Persona 3 and 4, but fuck off if you think the rest of the series is weeb bait.
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>>323977874
But where is all that mixing of the elements? Show me please, can you fuse demons? Perhaps is there tactical grid based combat? How many characters are there because I assume they represented all the traditional FE classes right?
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>>323993548
Design wise they're similar.
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>>323993803
What are you even talking about?
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>>323993743
>can you fuse demons
You can fuse demons with spirit energy to craft weapons and each weapon has skills you can learn. And if you learn the same skill from two weapons you can upgrade it(if you learn Zan from one weapon and then learn it again you get Zan+1). No tactical grid combat, 7 characters representing Lord, Peg Knight, Cavalier, (Dark) Mage, Archer, Knight, and Myrmidon.
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>>323993838
Just looking at it mechanically, it looks like an Atlus game in every way. Everything about how it plays is all shit I could see being in SMT or Persona.

People are choosing to ignore that and harp on the colorful anime shit even though SMT was just dark anime shit.
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>>323994105
You say that the game's presentation resembles SMT. I state that I see no similarity in presentation. You respond by saying that the mechanics are similar and thus the presentation is similar.

I do not comprehend.
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So is like SMT but with rhythm games mechanics?
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>>323994307
>but with rhythm games mechanics
There's not rhythm mechanics in it. Just regular JRPG stuff.
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>>323993963
>Zan+1
>not Zanma
IT'S SHIT
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>>323994278
Both make me think of anime.
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>>323994514
I think he means the way it worked in SMT IV where you can "learn" the same spell multiple times resulting in a slightly superior version with cheaper MP cost.
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>>323994514
You can get Zanma and all the other variants too, and likewise get things like Zanma+1 and so on. Here's what the lord character can get
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Itsuki_Aoi#In_Game
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>>323994573
I hope you're not insinuating that liking one type of anime means one must like another.
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>>323994627
>>323994612
Holy shit that sounds fucking terrible.
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>>323991563
>SMT has the dungeons
>FE has the dragons

Makes sense to me desu.
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>>323994820
How so?
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>tfw the kowashitai song has started to grow on you

I've watched that performance more times than I'd admit. It's just so catchy.
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>>323993013
Yeah, I've been listening to it, I'm not fluent in Japanese or anything, so I always try to listen to the music when I do things like this. I just enjoy trying to decipher this stuff sometimes. But everything sounds right and looks right comparing the kanji I looked up to the lyric sheet.

I might try some of the other songs we have the lyrics sheets and full versions of later, but if I do, it probably won't pop up in this thread. I'd already been earing Reincarnation for a while trying to pick out the lyrics, but the sheet cleared up a lot.
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>>323994969
Me too and I didn't have WiiU .....fuck
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>>323977469
It was in your heart all along, anon, you just need to believe in it for it to become real.
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>>323995198
Got a place you might post them if you do?
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>>323995280
Nah, I'd probably just wait for an #FE thread and dump them there. Or I could throw it in a pastebin and drop that in /feg/ or something.
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>>323989509
Shilling of course.
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>>323995525
Cool, hope you can get around to it anon. I tried doing it by ear myself for Black Rain but damn is it hard.
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>>323994717
Of course not, but to be so up in arms as if this type of shit is beyond Atlus is just funny to me.
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>>323995627
It's not unreasonable. This is the most "weebshit" game Atlus has ever made by a wide margin. Persona 4 Dancing All Night has more edge and artistic integrity.
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>>323995627
hm thats true but I think one thing is for atlus to make generic animu cringy games and another to get the cringe all over your SMT
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>>323982331
Again?
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>>323990897
Persona 4 allowed it.
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OST WHERE?
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>>323995928
Rise was not an idol anymore during the events of Persona 4.
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>>323995928
Rise wasn't working as an idol at that point
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Is this game coming to the west?
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>>323995970
February 10th for the vocal tracks. Standard fight themes and dungeons themes and such is unknown. There's some tracks I'd love to hear the full clean versions of though.
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>>323996075
It may be coming, wait for Nintendo or Atlus to say an official statement about it
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>>323977469
SMT was removed from the japanese title and replaced with a title signifying it as a spin-off MT (like persona, devil summoner, etc)
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>>323996075
No apparently there was a petition by fans of SMT and FE, it wasn't too many signatures but it was kinda a slap on the face
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>>323996179
I don't think this shit deserves to stand shoulder to shoulder with even Persona 4 and its spinoffs.
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>>323978126
Expect devil's turd treatment at best.
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>>323996261
Too bad...
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>>323977469
The gameplay. That's where.
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>>323977874
>Because its NOT a SMT game
It's a MegaTensei game, many confuse the two.
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Aside from the glorious salt coming off from most of the SMT fags, does anyone know if the game is actually good? From what I hear, the game is pretty good.
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>>323996268
>deserves to stand shoulder to shoulder with even Persona 4 and its spinoffs
Why? Mechanically it's a really solid MegaTensei game, that will be enjoyed by MegaTensei fans like Devil Summoner or Devil Survivor.
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>>323997481
>does anyone know if the game is actually good
We've had nothing but good reports from streamers and critics.
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>>323997481
It's a solid RPG, go watch some streams or go read a review
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>>323997481
It's ok
It's stupidly easy, loading into battles takes forever, and the fights are slow
Story is trash
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>>323997703
>It's stupidly easy, loading into battles takes forever, and the fights are slow
>fights are slow
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>>323997703
This right here, just watch the streams if you're curious.
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>>323997796
>fights are slow
You're a moron.
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>>323997794
Nigga even the regular attacks take like 5 seconds
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>>323997908
>Nigga even the regular attacks take like 5 seconds
Are you pretending to be a retard or ?
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>>323996179
>>323997528

You mean Ubunroku? That just means another and if paired with FE it just means "another FE" so no its not a MT spinoff but rather a FE spinoff thus the internal name of ATLUSxFE.
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>>323998060
>so no its not a MT spinoff
It's mechanically a MegaTen by Atlus, with MegaTen staff. So, yes. It's a MegaTen
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>>323997481
Yes, it's pretty good and can get a bit dickish in some fights.
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>>323997863
>I'll call him a name
>That'll show him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r88-VezXOfM#t=16574
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>>323998154
So you're admitting you're a retard? You've done ZERO research?
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>>323998132
Except its not.

Thats like saying Catherine is Persona or Advance Wars is Fire Emblem.

Fuck off.
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>>323997481
It's a standard Atlus JRPG that does very little to differentiate itself from other Atlus JRPGs when it comes to gameplay.
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Can you skip or speed up animations?
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>>323998219
>Except its not.
It is.

>Thats like saying Catherine is Persona
Catherine is nothing like Persona.

#FE is a MegaTen mechanically.

#FE is a MegaTen.
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>>323998217
You're right anon, I did not provide a youtube link to prove my point nor told the anon to judge the game based on the actual gameplay from the streams... oh wait.

Huh, guess you're just a fucking retard anon. Here's your (you).
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>>323998345
yes you can skip them
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>>323998345
Yes.

Retards like >>323998360 this moron are just shitposting. Ignore them.
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>>323998357
Except it isnt which is why ATLUS renamed the project.
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>>323998417
If you have to skip all the animations to make the game playable, it's poorly designed.
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So if you were in charge of an SMT x FE game, what would you have done?
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>>323998345
You can skip the big ff7 summon attacks
Not sure if you can skip regular animations or session attacks, which are also pretty fucking long
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>>323998439
>Except it isnt
It is.

>>323998449
Clinically retarded.
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>>323998452

Not idolshit.
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>>323998334
Ding ding ding.

It has shitty combat that would be unacceptable by the standards of any other developer, a trademark of virtually all SMT games. Whether it's demons, personas, or literal edge lords, SMT combat will always be shit and unfortunately that's what FE took from it.
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>>323998417
>I find the game slow and bad, but judge for yourself from the streams
>here's a youtube link to prove my point
Yes anon, that's shitposting. Have a (you).
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>>323998496
>>323998496
>It is.
It isnt as stated by ATLUS itself.
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>>323998449
Sure it is
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>>323998484
>Not sure if you can skip regular animations or session attacks
You can.
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>>323998374
I'd rather have a speed up, but I can live with that.
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>>323998572
[Citation Needed]
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>>323998536
>SMT combat will always be shit and unfortunately that's what FE took from it.
But FE has even shittier gameplay by srpg standards, by RPG standards SMT has great gameplay.
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>>323978609
I like what I've seen of #fe but I still think this is a clever post
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>>323998673
>by RPG standards SMT has great gameplay
(you)
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>>323998673
You're talking to someone who couldn't beat Matador.
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>>323998650
Read the Q&A were its specifically stated that this gajme is meant to be a modern take on FE but done by the ATLUS staff.
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>>323998707
I have seen better desu
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>>323998745
It's still a MegaTen.
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>>323998730
In that anon's defense: SMT/MT games always try something new with their gameplay while Fire Emblem sticks with a true and tried formula. Some SMT/MT games have pretty good gameplay, others are really lacking in gameplay department. Kinda reminds me of the whole FF vs DQ situation.
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>>323998804
Except not, again ATLUSxFE is the project name. They removed the Megaten part.
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>>323998851
>Except not
Sorry. It is.
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>>323977469

>tfw bought a WiiU for this steaming heap of shit

I literally have no use for this machine now, I should probably just sell it.
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>this thread
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>>323998886
Kill yourself faggot.
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>>323998886
Sorry it isnt. Megaten games have always a connection between them by characters of the main series appearing on the spinoffs in order to be considered Megaten. And i dont mean references but actual character appereances.

This game doesnt has anyone.
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>>323998929
>he bought a home console for a shitty teaser with png character images
Worse than those who bought a PS3 for Last Guardian or FF7 remake.
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What a fucking riveting conversation we have here
>uh huh it is so a megaten game
>nuh uh, no its not
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>>323998968
He's not wrong.

>>323999005
>Sorry it isnt
Incorrect.

>>323999029
Apparently Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor, Last Bible are all also not MegaTens.
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>>323999029
the only people on /v/ i've found worse than shitposters are the people who sit there and cry about what people are discussing
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>>323999029

Welcome to #FE threads. Literally the worst threads on /v/ at any given time.
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>>323999090

But DemiKids is lmao
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>>323999126
>before launch
>speculation of dungeons, abilities, monsters
>fresh webms from every trailer

>after launch
>salty SMTfags claiming idols and Fire Emblem are cancer
>salty FEfags claiming idols and SMT are cancer
>salesfags
It's the nature of the world.
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Can I get demons like Jack Frost? Can party members get Promoted into Advance Classes?
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>>323999083
>>323999083
>Incorrect.
>Megaten games have always a connection between them by characters of the main series appearing on the spinoffs in order to be considered Megaten. And i dont mean references but actual character appereances.
>Apparently Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor, Last Bible are all also not MegaTens.

They all have recurring SMT characters with a role.
Thus #FE isnt.
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>>323999083
#FE is merely MegaTen related but it is NOT a real MegaTen game just like its NOT a real Fire Emblem game either. Get that through your thick fucking skull.
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>>323999263
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/asej/
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>>323999245
You're wrong as fuck, there was plenty of disgust prelaunch man
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>>323999269
>They all have recurring SMT characters with a role.
#FE as a MegaTen confirmed.
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>>323999183
>But DemiKids
Something that doesn't exist and I refuse to believe in existing.
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>>323999331
Again no references and thats one.

Thanks for proving my point.
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>>323999314
Is that a polite way of saying no?
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>>323999329
>there was plenty of disgust prelaunch
You mean during the first SMTxFE trailer
>FIRE EMBLEM SUCKS, SMT V WHEN?
>SMT SUCKS, REAL HOME CONSOLE FE WHEN?
Ah, yes. I remember that. They thankfully fucked off to their generals shortly afterwards.
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Marth is probably rolling in his grave
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>>323999329
It's always the same IP saying the same thing and they circlejerk giving replies to themselves, it's so obvious it's hilarious
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>>323991563

I expected a tactical RPG with demons and fusing. Fire Emblem's gameplay with characters from SMT.
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>>323999384
>T-thanks for, uh, proving *sweats profusely* my point
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>>323999424
If you want an answer you can promote your classes
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>>323999476
lol nah man idols, you like idols no?
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>>323999476
>Fire Emblem's gameplay with characters from SMT.
It already exists, go play Devil Survivor.
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>>323999428
Nigga I literally fucking posted the first SMTxFE thread; I screencapped the Direct stream for the OP, for god's sake

The thread was fucking nothing like that
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>>323977469

>This game takes place in the distant future of FE where everything is modern
>Hundreds of lines of lords and kings gave their lives so that their ancestors might become pop stars
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>>323999496
>A Jack Frost image is the closest he can come to argue that this game is MT.

btfo.
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>>323999562
>The thread was fucking nothing like that
Huh, I was here during the first direct too and I've been following this game on /v/ and /wug/, /smtg/ and other places and that was 90% of the response. Maybe you where dreaming?
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>>323977469
Isn't it fucking obvious?
Personas?
Hello?
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So one year ago do you think anyone would be able to recognize who this is?
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>>323999653
>the mechanics of the game is the closest he can come to argue that this game is MT.
FTFY
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>>323986012
I think it's just an EO character
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>>323999758
Doga will choke this point.
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>>323999767
>>323999767
>Games with diferent mechanics being an stronger point of reference to MT spinoffs than recurring story characters from the mother series.
>Animepic
btfo
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>>323999245

Timeline of SMTxFE/#FE threads

-Initial teaser trailer: Large amount of interest, but lack of info causes threads to be short and empty.
-All but forgotten, occasionally threads would pop up asking where the fuck info on it was, or declaring it vaporware
-Second trailer: Threads filled with immense confusion
-Later, threads filled with immense disgust by pretty much everybody who was even remotely interested. Universally dismissed as a mistake that should be forgotten
-Inevitably, a combination of shitposters who claim to love it just be contrary, and cuteposting idolshits start being excited/claiming to be excited about it. The vast majority dismiss them as shitposters an retards. Threads filled with rampant shitposting and falseflagging. Interest wanes by the minute in anybody who was even remotely interested in the original product.
-Having lost interest, people interested in the original product stop paying attention to the threads, allowing the threads to reach an ironic kind of stasis, where it was filled with a few idolfags, and shitposters who claim to like it just to piss off people who were interested in the original product. Post counts are high, poster counts are low.
-Sales were released. Feeling vindicated, non-shitposters/idolfags return to the threads to gloat over it. Rampant shitposting as the shitposters retaliate.
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>>324000079
False, over all that time after the second trailer some people were still interested. I know because I was the only one talking about the game talking with this image
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>>324000079
Thats pretty spot on, this game was too weeb even for the Japanesse
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>>323977469
all they had to do was give Ike Izanagi and people would have eaten this shit up. instead they decide to shit the bed with Idols and all this other faggot weeaboo shit that even the most faggot weeaboo is ashamed of.
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>>324000460
What are we going to do in bed Ike-kun?
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