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LOL
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>>323969695
WHAT
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>>323969695
Careful anon, talking about vidya is forbidden here.
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>>323969695
Cool! I like it. I don't really get the butt rage other that it being another fire type.
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>>323969695
Still better than an ice cream cone
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Literally my favorite pokemon from 5th gen. This is great
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>>323970685
They're both cool. I never understood the hatred of object based pokemon.
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Finally, something to add to decent tier and not furshit tier
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>>323969695
HOLY SHIT
I FUCKING LOVE CHANDELURE
SWAMPERTFAGS BTFO
FUCK YES
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still no Heracross or Scrafty..
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>>323969695
But it doesn't have limbs

How is it going to fight?
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>>323970797
>>323971185
>>323971323

Are you people fucking serious? You can like that pokemon all you want and I'd even agree that it has an appealing design. But this is a fighting game. How would I imagine this thing fighting a Machamp? This is like the Smash threads full of people wanting Toad in Smash4.
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>>323973274
It cant
Machamp is a fighting type and chandelure is a ghost type
Machamp would be more Machump for that matchup
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>>323973274
>Gengar
>Gardevoir
>Braixen
>Suicune

They'll find a way. Probably.
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>>323973274
>My pokemon fighting game isn't realistic
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>>323973274
I know, how dare they attempt to give the roster more variety and make it unique?
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>>323969695
FUCKING SWEET
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Will they make it in?
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>>323973707
>>323973727
I don't understand you people. For the sake of variety you're going to be excited to play as a floating chandelier.

Is this a new meme? Ironic hype?
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>>323973951
>stop liking what i don't like reee
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>still no snorlax
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>>323974006
No, you can LIKE the pokemon. Fucking whatever. No one has explained why they would want to play as this pokemon in a fighting game. I realize that I'm being autistic as fuck right now because I care enough to keep posting, but my curiosity is killing me.
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>>323973274
>Using Smash Bros as an example of non-fighting things can make it into a fighting game.

Explain Peach? Unlike Zelda and Rosalina, canonically she has no special abilities.
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>>323973951
fuck you
I actually like floating fighting game characters
I think Rosalina and mewtwo are pretty cool
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>>323973951
The Pokken roster is kinda lacking in bipedal or uniquely body structured Pokemon, so seeing Chandelure and Suicune is pretty refreshing. At least, that's what I think.
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>>323969695
he was so close...
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>>323974298
You can make a bowl of oatmeal work as a fighting game character if you're as crazy as Sakurai. That isn't the point at all. The insanity comes from actually wanting that bowl of oatmeal.
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>>323974214
Because of how different it is from the rest of the cast.

Every fighting game roster needs at least one or two entries that have an amount of "what the fuck" or it isn't interesting. Chandelure hits that niche very nicely.
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>>323974298
What is Super mario bros 2?
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>>323974602
A dream
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>there are people who wanted ugly-ass Delphox instead of qt Braixen

Delphox is shit. Shit! SHIT!!

All I wanted was for a goddamn hat and instead I get the worst case of ear hair I have ever seen.
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>Mods continue to delete Pokken threads

Must be the work of a salty Swampert lover
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Soon
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Why are Gen V pokemon so good
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>>>last thread deleted

Braixen squashed the "NO NFE POKEMON ALLOWED" meme.
Chandelure squashed both the "NO LIMBLESS POKEMON ALLOWED" and "NO BACKGROUND POKEMON ALLOWED" memes.
Swampert's exclusion squashed the "MUH STARTER TYPE PATTERNS" meme.

The ONLY limits remaining are Support Pokemon, and special cases like Magnemite, who was disqualified from entering the game after winning first place in a popularity contest in Japan because they couldn't think of a moveset for him.
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>>323974665
Both Pokemon are absolutely shit.
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>>323974665
>there are people that wanted furbait instead of a cool-ass mage

I'm not surprised, just disappointed
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>>323974602
I don't see how you can make an entire moveset out of floating, but sure.
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>>323973951
Do you just want a bunch of Fighting-type Pokemon?
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>>323974710
Gen V was a gift from God. The pokemon, the music, the girls, fuck even the story wasn't terrible.

Also, Bisharp for Pokken when.
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>B-BUT WHY CHANDELURE?!
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>A FUCKING CHANDELIER
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>>323974717
All of those patterns were shit, finally people can shut the fuck up.
Still want Swampert though, don't really care about any other starters besides it Feraligatr.
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>>323974717
What is NFE?
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>>323974814
I'm not the only one hoping for Reuniclus, right?
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>>323974853
Not fully evolved.
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>>323974682
If it wasn't for the fact this pokemon has a face for waifufags and that it appears in the high level areas in R/S/E, it would've never been acknowledged at all.
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>>323974853
Not Fully Evolved
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I simply think there were tons of better options and they went with this instead.
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we NEED Lopunny/Lil/Zoroark
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>>323974856
Not really on my priority list but I wouldn't mind at all. Would be really cool to play as.
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>>323974902
Oh right duh
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>>323974853
NEVER
FUCKING
EVER
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>>323974717

I still think Swampert is being added.
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>>323974814
>could have gotten Whimsicott

Fuck man.
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>>323974390
>I think Rosalina and mewtwo are pretty cool

The fact that they have limbs is why I can't accept the comparison.

>>323974586
Is that really it? Yeah that's sort of cool, I guess. But feels unnecessary with a small roster out of hundreds of pokemon to choose.

>Every fighting game roster needs at least one or two entries that have an amount of "what the fuck" or it isn't interesting

What the fuck are you even talking about? That's not even close to true.
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>>323974717
Also note that Swampert's exclusion also BTFO'd the "glowing letters in the hint!" meme.
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>>323973951
It's a wisp fire/ghost type that disguises itself so it can steal souls. He's a cool ghost type and some people just want to play their favorites regardless of whether they fit the fighting game model.
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>>323974825
so?
They're called Pocket Monsters, not Pocket Animals. A soul-sucking lamp definitely qualifies as a monster.
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>>323974814

>Whimsicott that popular

huh

i knew Chandelure was relatively popular and one of the more liked Gen 5s, but no idea Whimsicott was that high up
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>>323974814
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>>323969695
>Mods continually deleting threads
Faggots, we can discuss Pokemon here, it's videogames. Shit like Pokken especially since it's a Tekken/Pokemon spinoff. /vp/ is a shitpost containment board.
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>>323974943
Lopunny semes best bet with its recent mega.
But Zoroark is pretty popular.
Liligant not so much,
Hopefully we can just have all 3.
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>>323974943
Zoroark would make for a cool doppleganger type fighter sort of like Marionette from Dark Stalkers or Mokujin from Tekken

Ditto will be 2P for clone matches.
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>>323973274
>How would I imagine this thing fighting a Machamp?
By setting the motherfucker on fire.

>>323974717
>>323974673
>>323975054
The thread was deleted because it had over 500 posts, quit being so fucking paranoid.
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Beautiful
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>>323974814
So this is a vote for best gen 5 Pokemon in Japan right?
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>>323974856
my nigga
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Chandelure is fucking amazing. What's the problem?
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Cool. I had a chandelure on my team in white, pretty cool pokemon overall. I'm glad we're getting more unique pokemon as opposed to MORE HUMANOID SHIT like /v/ keeps clamoring for.
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>>323975112
y tho? Just let it archive
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>>323969695
Chandelure is cool and all but don't we have enough fucking fire types already?
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>>323969695

As a Gen V fag, I am more than ok with this.
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>>323975147
Correct, but it gives explanation as to why Chandelure may have been prioritized over other Gen V choices.

Keep in mind he's the first and only Gen V mon in the game right now.
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>>323969695
I hope they add an Amie mode for fighters, these models are so good.
Here's hoping for Volcarona.
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>>323969695
NO ARMS NO LEGS

Holy shit I wouldn't have guess that one, very nice
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>made it to smash
>made it to pokken
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>>323975078
That is not how Zoroark works, christ what is wrong with you people? Why are Pokemon fans so thick headed?
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>>323969695
"Vidya is not allowed on /v/" -Mods 2016
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Based Crocodile when?
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>>323975154
>that tiny, happy Reuniclus at the bottom
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>>323975020
>>323974814
>Lilligant
>Joltik/Galvantula
>Volcanora

At least people voted for them I guess
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>>323975310
Well you come up with a better idea you male anime posting faggot
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>>323973274
>You HAVE to agree with my opinion

Nope. Chandelure is the best.
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>>323975246
That's depressing. Never had this pokemon on my team, so why is it so popular?
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I... well, okay, sure. Why not.
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>>323975315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGfJDMDWu5E
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That's great and all but can we break the "no assists allowed" rule?
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>>323975412
You can do almost anything with it. It works great with Specs, Scarf or under Trick Room, has sky-high SpA, interesting typing, Flash Fire which boosts its sepcial Fire moves even more etc etc.
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This is fucking awesome. Nobody saw this shit coming. Need to see some video of it in action, I imagine it's gonna be a pretty heavy zoner.
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>Gen V gets a rep
>it isn't Scrafty
>it isn't Meinshao
>it isn't Darmanitan
>it isn't Whimsicott
>it isn't Lilligant
>it isn't even one of those clown body builders
>it's a fucking chandelier
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>>323974814
>Replace Braixen with Chandelure, Dark Mewtwo with Reuniculous and Pika Lucha with Joltik
I'd be ok with this.
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>>323974987
You sound like such an insufferable faggot.

I don't particularly like chandelure, I don't hate it but I can appreciate it, and I think he's a great addition, his fight style will have to be totaly different from the rest of the cast since he has no fucking arms or legs.

It's creative, out of the ordinary and he's cute enough, it's fine, now stop being such a faggot for the love of yhvh.
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>>323975660
The most popular Pokemon of the generation gets in, yes. That's what happened.
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>>323975613
Don't assists jump in like MvC? It would be confusing to have two of the same character on the screen.
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>>323975412
statwise it's pretty fucking strong albiet slow, and slapping a choice scarf on the thing can still be pretty fucking scary

design wise it's pretty cute for a fully evolved ghost pokemon as well as an object shaped pokemon. hell, its design straight up reminds me of a Heartless from KH
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>>323975660
Fuck off retard.
I'm about to put Scraftyfags on my shitlist.
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>>323971258
>People complain about not having unique Pokemon
>Probably the most unique one in the game announced
>People complain about it
I know that whole "/v/ is not one person" thing but come on people
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>>323975613
That'd be dumb to play as dragonite and call in dragonite as an assist.
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>>323975740
>I'm about to put Scraftyfags on my shitlist.
>he didn't already have them on the list due to OCs like this
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>>323975613
Supports are the only limit I can't see being broken. They're the true never evers.
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>>323974814
This game needs more cute grass types
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>>323975759
He wouldn't be my first choice but I'm loving it. I wanted a uniquely bodied Pokemon that wasn't fur bait and I got it.
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>>323975856
Yeah like Snivy and Maractus
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>>323969695

surprising but not too much

IIRC it's the runaway most well received Gen 5 pokemon design-wise, is pretty strong and has got cool typing

the coolest "object pokemon" imo
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NFE
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>>323975394
There IS no way to make Zoroark's ability work in the context of a fighting game. Zoroark is my second favorite pokemon but if you have to do away with the main thing that makes it unique so that it can work in the game then that would defeat the purpose of including it. People that don't even understand how the pokemon works are part of why Zoroark will remain dead and buried forever.

>>323975412
Girls. I'm serious.

>>323975759
Pokemon fans are fucking stupid.
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>>323974987
>What the fuck are you even talking about? That's not even close to true.

It's certainly an opinion, if that's what you're having a problem with. But it's an opinion with a few examples to back it up.

Say what you will about genre definitions, but Smash is a game that has always had characters on its roster that are out of left field, and it's certainly better for it.

If your argument is that a pokemon fighting game should "take itself more seriously" than smash, or something, I don't really know what to tell you.
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>>323975660
>Gen V gets a rep
>it's the best Ghost-type in the series

Everything looks good here, senpai.
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>>323975856
>she will never get a good move pool

Feels bad.
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>>323975901
Quilava has a way better design than Typhlosion desu
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Do you guys think America or Europe will get a pill similar to what got Gengar in or will this be strictly catering to Japan's taste in Pokemon?
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>>323975759
Didn't mean to reply to>>323971258
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About time unova got a representative
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>>323975856
I liked her better when she was called Bellossom.
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>he doesn't use the Blood Waifu set
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>best ghost type gets in
I'm pleasantly surprised how many anons like Chandelure. You make me proud.
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>>323975912
Being able to see your opponent's entire team before the battle is what made it dead on arrival, sadly.
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>>323975970
You already know the answer, fuck off back to Brooklyn.
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>>323976084
I like Golurk better, but it doesn't mean much when they're both in my top 10.
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>>323975970
Given the director told western Tekken fans to fuck off after his cat girl character caused a stir, I doubt he cares about your favourite Pokemon.
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Chandelure is a cool ghost pokemon, though. Fun idea for a Ghost/Fire type.

I feel like this is their "unorthodox" pokemon pick. I'd much rather see Chandelure than any of the other object-based Pokemon.
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>>323975912
>Bayo's guns take that away and it ruins her
>Is in anyway

I'm sure they'll find a way man, don't be so negative
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>>323972715
Special moves anon.
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>>323975970

hopefully, but Gengar likely wouldve been top 5 or 10 in NA + EU polls as well

that thing is popular as fuck here almost 20 years later and is one of the handful that even normies can probably mention by name
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>>323974298
>no special abilities

Nigga she can fucking FLY.
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>>323976054
Really? Because Bellossom was a waste of a Pokedex slot and completely inferior to its Kanto counterpart, like virtually every gen 2 Pokemon. Lilligant actually does something unique and has a better design to boot.
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>>323976196
I hope it isn't the last.
This is Pokémon, they shouldn't be considered "unorthodox".
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>>323975921
You know, I'd have to REALLY get a good look at its moveset before really judging it. I just hope you understand where I'm coming from.

It's a floating chandelier. My imagination can't really do much with that aside from projectiles. That doesn't seem interesting at all, in my opinion. I think the roster for Pokken has been pretty fucking cool, so I hope I can be convinced otherwise.
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>>323974814
>>323975020
>Japan liked Samurott more than Dewott
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>>323974935
What's your point?
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As much as I like chandelure, how the fuck is it even going to work in a game like pokken?
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>>323975894
>Maractus

The cutest Grass-type.
I tried to look up good fanart of it, but it was mostly pregnancy, vore, or farting.
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>>323976170
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>>323975968
No
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>>323969695
>mfw literally my favorite Pokémon Besides Duskull, and Trevenant
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>>323976292
Video at the end of the month.

I'm thinking projectiles also. If you wanted to go Melee a spinning attack would work.
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Do you think Ryu will be in pokken?
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>>323969695
I'm disappoint
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>>323976336
>Torterra
>Shaymin
>Zorua
Give me your friend code
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>>323975970
Japanese devs hate Americans because every time they bring a game over they get yelled at by soccer moms and university students.
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Guess Zoroark really does live a hard life
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>>323969695
How? Is it gonna zone or what?
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>mfw this semi-realistic artstyle

it works really well for Garchomp and Chandelure, but some like Lucario look bizarre

i dont know
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>>323975020
Girls confirmed for better taste than boys.
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>>323976084
>best ghost type gets in
Golurk > Aegislash > Gengar > Chandelure
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>>323976292
>Implying it won't have a bunch of cool things going on like spinning around and using it's ghostly flames in a pyrokinesis sort of way.
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>>323974813
This. Gen V was Pokémon at its prime.
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>>323975648
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
No trailer until the 31st, so don't expect footage before then
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ESPURR WHEN?
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>>323976419
ghostfags need not apply
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>>323969695
>MY NIGGA CHANDELURE

AAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>323976528
Go away smug squad.
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>Fire Emblem type
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Cubone/Marowak WHEN?!
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>>323976571
Nice false flag
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>>323976140
That alone isn't what did it. It's more that Zoroark isn't strong enough to be worth running in the first place on a lot of high-end teams. Forcing the gimmick just makes it harder.

>>323976209
But they didn't take away her guns? Hello? Besides Bayonetta is a unique fighter even without them, and that's not really an apt comparison anyway because Zoroark's trait is a lot more abstract than simple weapons.
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>>323976531
ok
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>>323976528
this in english yet or only japanese and korean?
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>>323969695
>ANOTHER FUCKING FIRE TYPE

This is like Fire Emblem users in smash all over again.
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>>323976571
The whole point of Chandelure's line is to look friendly, familiar, and inviting. This art ruins the whole concept. Nobody would trust to follow those things.
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>This announce means there are 4 fire types
>Fire types have more representatives than needed
>Fire types are the Fire Emblem of smash
It fits so well. I'm not complaining but holy shit this is funny.
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>>323969695
They saved the best for last. Based.
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>>323976592
>like spinning around

That's top tier, m8. But in all seriousness, projectiles and traps are all I can imagine.
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>>323976682
This.

I want my goddamn Pokemon Batman.
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>>323974717
>The ONLY limits remaining are Support Pokemon, and special cases like Magnemite, who was disqualified from entering the game after winning first place in a popularity contest in Japan because they couldn't think of a moveset for him

What. This actually happened? Magnemite is actually popular in Japan? Is this some foreign meme I'm not aware of?
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>>323976761
Fire types are ridiculously popular in both America and Japan.
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>>323976710
Nigga everyone was saying she's was a never ever because without her guns she was nothing, and if you said that shit people would destroy you with "delusional bayofag" since her trait IS her guns

Like i said, too negative friend.
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>not Cofagrigus
Oh well, Chandelure is cool too
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>>323976871
Apparently so. Magnemite was rallied for as a complete joke by 2ch supposedly
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>>323976871
Gengar's inclusion was a result of a popularity contest asking nippons to suggest Pokemon to get into the game, think like the Smash ballot but actually real and not rigged.

Magnemite won but the developers stated they couldn't think of a moveset, Gengar placed second so they chose him in the end.
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Honestly who cares if it's another fire type. It fucking floats off the ground and it's from a generation that doesn't have any representation.

It's a really creative choice.
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Guys there's fucking 720 Pokemon (I think)

The odds of your favorite to get in were stacked against you in the beginning.
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>>323976945
Not him but Zoroark's illusions aren't physical, they couldn't be for attacks. Maybe they'd work for maybe dodge and counter attacks, but other then that it wouldn't work. And taking away what makes it unique would suck.
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>>323976871
In BW2, they used Magnemite to mass trade on GTS to build up Join Avenue which grows the more different people you trade with. The two reasons were one, a pun on its Japanese name "Coil" in that it would be a "coil" that connected everyone, and two, because it was a fairly early encounter.

It's basically been a mememon over there since then.
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>>323976878
BUT MUH EQUALITY

MUH PADDERNS

SAKURAI DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ROCK PEOPLE OR NORMAL PEOPLE
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>>323977059
>think like the Smash ballot but actually real and not rigged.

Who did you want, Anon?
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>>323969695
Not even remotely disappointed. Chandelure a best.
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Chandelure is like the only Gen V Pokemon I care about next to Golurk, the Krookodile and Samurott lines so fuck yes
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>>323976724
Thanks
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>>323976871

magnemite is japan's own shitpost pokemon, sorta like how slowpoke/magikarp/mudkip are ours
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>your favorite will never EVER be playable

post 'em
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>it's real

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
actually really glad to see non-bipedal pokemon that aren't really easy and obvious for a fighting game make it in
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>>323976547
I think it's more because they are from a culture that really does not care at all about anything outside of their island
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>>323976871
I remember something in BW2 that involved Magnemites in the GTS.
Probably stems from that.
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>>323977190
Krystal
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>People just now waking up to the memo that Fire type pokemon are incredibly well liked all over the world and across a variety of demographics

>>323976945
Those people are also idiots. No one ever said that Smash fans were in possession of great intellect. She's not even the only character in Smash to have used fire arms, that's a stupid assumption to make. Zoroark's illusions are not physical, they aren't attributes that it mimics. It ONLY takes on the appearance of other pokemon, beyond that it's just a random hexing, fire breathing monster. They would have to get real creative to preserve that trait.
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>>323977271
Suicune, bruh
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>>323977262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YdWeAcCQCY
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>>323976292
It isn't literally a chandelier, anon. It's arms are actually flexible so it can slap a bitch with it's flaming candle fists.
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>>323977234

>Forgetting the based Lamprey
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>>323977262
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>>323976336
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>>323977262
It's possible again. He was a background Pokemon, but so was Chandelure.
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>>323977110
They don't have to be physical they can be used for other purposes, possibly making illusions of himself or some shit.

What I know is that uniqueness can still be preserved, bayonetta guys said they'd take her guns away because "M rated" and comparing her to dante

Creative liberties exist, the only thing that would hold him back is if they simply did not want to make it or the wii u for whatever reason can't handle it
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>>323977262
Maybe next time.
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>>323974814
>Reshiram
Someone post the discography.
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>>323974682

Man Mawile is fuckin rad, and its mega form is also rad. I'll never get why nobody cares about it though
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>>323977110

Actually, didn't they have some physical mass in the movie?
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>>323977262
Chandelure is an acceptable alternative, though.
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>>323977262
Both of these desu senpai
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>>323976351
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Remove T W O characters from the roster.

Add O N E.

Go.
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>>323969695
Were there seriously 31 Nips who got salty at this?

Japanese must be the kings of shit taste.
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>>323977596
I can't remember the movie exactly.
But in the anime it fuking set fire to a forest as a giant fire type, but it was all just a hologram.
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They pick one of the only pokemon no one faps to, nice choice
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>>323976336
>>323977401
Template?
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>>323977661
Pikachu Libre and Shadow Mewtwo
Hawlucha
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>>323977671
They voted it in though.
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>>323977661
>Lucha-Pika
>Braixen

>add Noivern
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>>323977190
Bayonetta, but it was rigged to shit.
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>>323977661
Remove your 2 favourites

Add mine
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>>323975912
Base it on misdirection, her night daze,flame thrower and dark pulse can all have similar start ups and different trajectories as to confuse the enemy.

She can use sucker punch/substitute by turning into a horrfying apparition, she can also leap forward suddenly this allows combos but can leave her open if she misses.


She's low defense high speed, basically sonic meets yoshimitsu
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>>323977283
Recently, it's both.
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>>323977262
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>>323976235
(in a dream)
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This pokemon feels line it's going to be what petshop was in the JJBA Capcom fighter.
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>>323977347
>>323977234

oh shit, forgot him and FREEDOM BIRD

speaking of which, we needs some fuckin' Flying types in this bitch. pic related.
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>>323977661
Garchomp and Braixen for Reuniclus, any day
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>>323977608
only mexicans like hawlucha and no one cares about mexicans
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>>323973274
>Gamefreak: doing Firefox since before Mozilla like a boss! Fuck yeah! #90'sforever
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>>323977826
Yeah but they didn't care about pig gaijins long before tumblr was a thing
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>>323974814
>waifumon of gen 5 just barely made top 10

This isn't the japan I know.
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>>323977848
>SMB3D World is a dream
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>Two of my ghost-type niggas get in
Who /maininggengar/ here?
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>>323977661
>Pika Libre
>Flip a coin between Shadow Mewtwo and Braixen
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>>323974298
Super Mario RPG doesn't exist? Super Peach doesn't exist? What?
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>>323976871
Magnemite's name is Coil, which basically means meme in Jap talk.

Imagine a pokemon named "Meme". That's essentially what Magnemite is.
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>>323977661
Remove Pika Libre and Dark Mewtwo
Add Heracross
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>>323977893
Petshop wasn't broken because it could fly. It was broken because it had bullshit damage, pressure, setups, and safety.
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I can't believe we've got almost the entire roster now. I know they're still technically testing the waters and shit but my inner pokefag just demands more and more
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>>323977896

>No Moves Murrica Bird
>Ever implying Mandibuzz isn't the better choice
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>>323977905
>removing anyone other than Lucha-Pika and Edgy Mewtwo

Why?
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>>323977262
>half of all fire starter lines see representation
>pic related's line gets nothing, not even a fucking background appearance
Best I can hope for is a Cyndaquil/Quilava assist
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>>323977661
Brixian and lucha pikachu

Add Pangoro
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>>323977583
>>323974814

got u senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPyhlybViJw
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>>323977059
>think like the Smash ballot but actually real and not rigged.
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>>323977986
A dream come true, more like it. That shit was the best Mario game in fucking years.
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>>323977262
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>>323978084
Exactly like that all projectile based moves and too much to go for it
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>>323977893
always wondered, what kind of bird is that?
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>>323977094
She is already in though
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Take this screen and add Sceptile, both Mewtwos, Garchomp, Braixen, and Chandelure.

Four slots remaining.
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>>323978139
Edgy Mewtwo is still Mewtwo nevertheless, which is expected at this point. Braixen on the other hand, who actually wanted that?
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>>323975856
This >>323977768 is the correct answer.
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>>323977262

My favorites are Mawile and Pancham.

I expect nothing but anything would be nice
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>>323978092
The game is going to be continually updated. There reallly isn't a limit on the roster
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>>323978195
Alright but Suicune and Gardevoir are already in the game and Gardevoir is one of the worst characters right now.
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>>323977905
>for Reuniclus
BRO
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>>323978262
Waifufags
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>>323975020
>>323974814

>Braviary nowhere on the list

dem japs can't appreciate FREEDOM
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>>323978237
Isn't it unfair to put a magical fox in a fighting game?
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>>323978020
>Gengar, Lucario, and Gardevoir are three of my favorites
>They'll always get special treatment
There is no better feeling
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>>323978258

-Swampert
-Heracross
-Another Starter, probably gen 5 or 2
-another surprise Pokemon
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>>323978258
HAWLUCHA
A
W
L
U
C
H
A
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>>323974814
japan has pretty good poke taste
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>>323974814
>whimsicott

for what fucking purpose?
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>>323977893
>when the squad is talking shit bout u across the room
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>>323977817
>Her
>She
Furfag detected.
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>>323977661

black mewtwo and normal pikachu (keep pika libre)

klefki
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>>323978437
Cute, unique typing, and prankster ability.
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>>323969695
So we can get anyone huh?
Id like Victreebel tbqh
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>>323969695
>Pokemon Fighter has gone complete Smash Bros with its character selection process
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>>323978514
>cute
>being a good reason for anything

I want moefags to die
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>>323978451

>Forgetting the movie

>>323977661

>Drop Standard Pikachu and Gardevoir

>Add Drapion for body shenanigan fighting
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>>323978451
What are you stupid?
Someone trying to defend Zoroark that hard clearly has them as their waifu or something. Your not that great of a detective. Probably the same guy that comes in these threads and posts Zoroark lewds
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>>323978514
>unique typing
When the pole was made it was still mono Grass so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
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>We could have gotten whimsicott
TWO NUKES WASN'T ENOUGH
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>>323977661
Pika Libre and Shadow Mewtwo

add Darkrai
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>>323978258
>Greninja
>a Normal type
>a Rock type
>a Flying type

I think that would cover everything.
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>>323975246
>>323975412
Looks pretty cool to me. Then again I prefer ghost types anyway.
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>>323978172
thanks
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>>323978398
>>323978020
>mfw maining Blaziken/Farfetch'd bro team till the end of days
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>>323978258
Lopunny
Heracross
A rock type of some kind.
A mystery mon out of no where.
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>>323978258
Id hoped there would be be more
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>>323976585
As a ghost type fan, Golurk is shit. Your opinion is shit

:^)
>>
Pretty cool pick honestly. I'm assuming it's gonna be a very special attack heavy pokemon.

Has any water types gotten in yet? We need Based Ferlgator , stat.
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>>323978752
Bug, not flying.
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>>323978883
They expanded the roster screen once to cater more Pokemon.
They can easily do it again if they need too.
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>>323969695
The crystal ball looks cool as heck
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>>323978172
This the guy who made stuck in Lugia's stomach?
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>>323978896
Suicune
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>>323977262
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>>323978446
>the squad
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So we all agree he's in right?

Now that Background Pokes can be added
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>>323977262
Wailord
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>>323978895
As a ghost, your taste is shit.
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>>323979086
Oh yeah. For some reason I keep thinking it's an ice type.

>>323979087
FUCKIN THIS. Would love it.
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Best ghost
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>>323979157
I'd think so.
Coolest bug with cool mega.
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>>323979157
Heracross a shit

I got 3 fucking Mega Heracross EX cards from a single booster box, with no other EX cards.

FUCK. HERACROSS.
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>>323978258
- Hitmonchan/lee
- more furfag shit
- Onyx/Steelix or Golem/Graveler
- Flying Type
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>>323969695
>chandelier ghost
>not robot ghost
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>>323979157
I hope so. He makes too much sense. Then again so does Snorlax or any of the old school fighting Pokemon like the Hitmons.
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Does this mean Crobat has a chance?
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>>323979157
Oh shit, Chandelure was a background mon? The dream lives on.

Not mad, though. This is probably my favorite addition to the roster in a while.
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I'm not lying when I say that this makes me way more excited for Pokken. Favorite fuckin' mon of Gen V right here
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>>323979087
>>323979193
>you will never get to literally trash your opponents in Pokken
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>>323969695
When will any other fighting game man up and put in their own chandelier fighter?
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>>323977817
>Feminine pronouns
Man I'm all for that kind of thing sure, but be more subtle about it please. I don't even know of Zoroark is capable of creating illusions beyond altering its appearance.

Also nothing about that sounds like Yoshimitsu at all.

t.Someone that actually plays Tekken and Soulcalibur.
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>>323975856
I wish more grass pokemon would go back to being tentacle rape monsters, getting tired of cute flowers and spores.
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>>323979501
I honestly can't say I had a main set for Pokken until Chandelure.

Being GENUINELY honest here.
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>>323979360
If he does it's very slim seeing as how he didn't score too high on the poll
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>>323978258
Greninja
Heracross
Normal type, Lopunny, Kangaskhan, or Audino maybe since megas
Rock type, probably a fossil

Would be my guess.
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Does this mean best mon has a chance now?
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>>323977810
How was it rigged when it was stated from the beginning that the poll is to gauge popularity, not to decide the winner? He could have said Bayonetta only got 3 votes worldwide and it wouldn't matter, it's who they chose.
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>>323975112
>By setting the motherfucker on fire.
>what is guts
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>>323977262
It'll never happen, I accepted it.
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>>323979874
But she's already in, anon.
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>>323979834
Well then, I've got no choice.
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You know what im most sad about

This game will probably sell more then Tekken 7
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>>323979087
Garbage taste.
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>>323979087
I unironically love garbodor and vanilluxe.
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>>323980106
Tekken hasn't been good since 5DR so I don't mind.
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>>323979181
Pretty salty for a ghost.
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>>323978258
>The dream
Heracross, Hawlucha, Greninja, Primeape
>Would also accept
Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Greninja, and some other random 4th one
>Probably gonna get
Greninja, and three Pokemon I don't give a shit about

Chandelure is sweet, though
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>>323977262
We don't really need more Fire-types, but it's nice to imagine
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>>323979994
Why are gardefags always pandered to?

>one of the initial megas in which it literally becomes your waifu
>got in this game before a water starter
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That's hilarious.
They weren't kidding when they said it was out of left field.
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>>323977262
He has a chance right? Even if poliwrath got in I would think it was cool but poliwhirl is better.
>>
SUDOWOODO
WHEN
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>>323979943
You are an idiot

>>323980239
That's straight up false, not to mention that 7 is doing away with bounds (which was the main thing I hated in 6 onward).
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>>323980413
>not in Smash
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>>323980501

She is
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>>323976817
You overestimate how much edgy fan artists actually care about or respect source material.
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>>323980557
So is K. Rool.
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>>323979519
Feels bad man.
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>>323980664
That's also correct
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>>323980501
Mewtwo has ensured that Smash will forever remain pokewaifu free. Of course with all the swordsmen showing up maybe variety isn't an obstacle.
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One of my top 3 made it.

I was hoping for

Poliwrath
Chandelure
Magmar

in that order
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remember that "staff polling" in Bamco?

I wonder if the one who got it was a qt grill.
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>>323977262
>tfw no tongue grappler
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Rate me pham.
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Here's to hoping he gets in
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>>323978592
>he didn't know this when Suicune was one of the first 4 revealed
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>>323980796
>pokewaifu free
Nonsense!
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where the fuck are the bug types

no bug types no buy
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>>323980997
>volcarona
you already have good taste/10
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>>323980997
>pham
>hating on the best type
Do you have water on the brain?
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>>323980997
>Good
Bug
Grass
Psychic
>Bad
Rest
>Too Godly to rate
Ground.
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What types haven't been represented yet again?
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>>323981121

Heracross is basically 100% in
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>>323981282

bug, rock, normal
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>>323981165
I DO have water on my brain anon.
It would be weird if I didn't.
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>>323981307
>INB4 Pinsir

Personally I want Scyther, but Heracross would be sweet.
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Heracrossfags are more in denial than Swampertfags.

It's nice that backgrounds are now on the table but that still doesnt confirm him.
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>>323977234
you forgot Scolipede you fuck
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>>323972715
Like suicune, it'll probably be a ranged fighter.
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>>323981453
>it's weird to not have hydrocephalus
Must be fun to live in waterbaby world.
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I get that they're aiming for variety here, but there are so many more unique choices available that also manage to fit in in a fighting game. Golem, Mr Mime, Magmortar, Bisharp are just few of those I can think of off the top of my head.
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>>323981671
My Jynx
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>>323973274
>How would I imagine this thing fighting a Machamp?
I dunno. I sure someone who has played the games with them would know. They could simulate that battle right now, just turn based instead of real time action.
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>>323972715

>doesn't have limbs

it clearly has tentacle arms
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>>323977234
>forgetting Miensha, Scolipede, and Galvantula, among others
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>>323973274
Dude, all Pokemon can fight. Thats sort of what Pokemon is about.
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>>323978258
Scizor
Lopunny
Meloetta
Breloom or Bisharp or Greninja
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daily reminder that Chandelure can make a ^_^ face
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>>323981694
>you either have no water in your brain or have too much.
Anon, you can speak in as many big words as you like but brains need water.

Admit your insult sucked and call it a night.
>>
gameplay when?
I want to see how lolifox and landsnecht play
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>>323980997
>fighting
>Lucario

All of it goes in the trash now
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>>323977262
But Anon, he already IS playable.
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>>323982027
Water on the brain is a common term for hydrocephalus. I'm sorry you are too much of a invalid to know that.
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>>323981847
Oh fuck how did I forget Galvantula? That nigga was a cornerstone on my team.

Scolipede's cool too
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>>323975970
>Tekken dev gets constantly bombarded by Americans because of the characters that are in the Tekken games
Yeah he's not gonna let us get in on this
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>>323982015
O++O
^++^
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>>323975962
Le mega pixilate hyper voice earth power faec

Dont lose hope
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But do we really NEED all types to be represented in the game?

It could just be like >>323974717 said, a silly meme/pattern that the devs don't give a shit about.
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>>323982243
*an invalid
I made a mistake in my post. I apologize deeply for my disgrace.
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>Not naming your Chandelure Lumiere
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>>323976528
Fuck man why this guy draw so many smugs? And why does this please my dick?
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>>323982517
damn, that's an awesome nickname for it
kudos to you for that
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>>323982243
Well, seems I AM retarded.
I've never once heard it called that, so when you said "water on the brain" I assumed you meant "water on your brain" and not a stupid ass nickname.

My mistake.
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>>323981717
None of those are more unique than Chandelure.

>b-but they're my favorite :(

That's nice, but it doesn't make them unique snowflakes.
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>>323977262
Stay mad you guys
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>>323977262
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>>323978258
Roserade
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>>323982882
My brother
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>>323982271
>tfw wnded up as a badass bug catcher at B/W end game
>Scolipede, Galvantula, Escavalier, Volcarona

>>323978258
I want to say that Tyrantrum will get in but idk
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>>323977661
>remove normal Pikachu and shadow Mewtwo
>add Heracross
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>>323975020
Why do girls have better taste in Pokemon than boys?
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>>323974717
>they couldn't think of a moveset for Magnemite
>but they could for Chadelure

What a load of bullshit
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>>323983334
Nah, they just know Magnemite came from a 2ch poll ruckus, like those GameFAQs poll shenanigans
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>>323973891
Final boss after mewtwo
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>>323983438
How is a rally considered unfair/cheating though?
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>>323983554
It's not, but at the same time they know it's a "meme" thing.
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>>323977262
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>>323983554
Because gen 1 is cancer and should be retconned already. Every single gen 1 mon has a better equivalent in a later one.
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>>323978258
9000 houry doos in paint
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Emboar is next right?
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>>323983693
>yfw they actually expanded the roster size again
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>>323983075
>liking the one pokemon that is somehow more bland looking than its real life counterpart
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will there be shadow version of every character?
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>>323973586
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>>323977593
Well they're cared about it until Smogon banned it.
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>>323971185
> I never understood the hatred of object based pokemon.
Has little to do with the fact that they're based on an object and everything to do with how that concept is executed.

The Vanillish line just looks fucking stupid and uninspired regardless of what it's based on.
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>>323983693
wait, wasn't this originally just a 12-pokemon roster?
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>>323977059
>think like the Smash ballot but actually real and not rigged.
>it didn't follow my fan poll based on 1000 votes and who's vocal in my community so it must be rigged!
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>>323977262
I fucking love Typhlosion.
I'm not even sure what made me like him so much to consider him my favorite.
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>>323974814
>>323975020
>all the gen 5 dragons
>except Druddigon

Plebeian taste.
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>>323978258
Here you go
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>>323983801
No, Shadow Mewtwo is just a stupid variant like Space Godzilla. You don't have Space Mothra, Space Gigan or Space King Ghidora
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>>323973586
You glorious bastard
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>>323983910
I "love" Typhlosion.
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>>323983075
>>323983794
Eh, Relicanth isn't so bad. You could do a lot worse considering how bloated the Water type is.
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>>323983801
>wanting literal reskins
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>>323977671
Don't generalize all of Japan based on what only 50 staff members said.
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>>323983867
>Vanilluxe
>uninspired

you may hate its design but it's far from uninspired
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>>323984078
I LOVE
RESHIRAM
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>>323983867
>The Vanillish line just looks fucking stupid and uninspired regardless of what it's based on.
I think they're cute.
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>>323984014
Enough slot to fit the rest
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>>323984174
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE
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>>323973586
Machamp can learn Knock Off, and dark type > ghost type so he would be ok.
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>>323973586
>>323983814
>Stone Edge

You do not want to switch Chandelure into Machamp unless you're 100% positive it's locked into a fighting-type move. Stone Edge is a OHKO on the most common Chandelure sets and I'm not sure if Chandelure gets a guaranteed OHKO on Machamp without choice specs or being passed boosts. If Machamp has Guts a burn won't do shit either, and you can often switch Machamo into Chandelure when you predict Will-o-wisp to get a free attack boost and scare it off.
>>
SWAMPERTFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>323983693
>Mewtwo and Shadow Mewtwo not in the same row

muh autism
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>>323979885
Actually, they literally stated that Bayonetta was the overall #1 choice worldwide among realizable characters. So you're misinformed. We just don't specifically know what "realizable" means.
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>>323984298
And a Machamp with No Guard would hit Chandelure with Stone Edge without problems.
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>>323984165
>An ice cream cone
>An ice cream cone with two heads
>An ice cream cone with two heads AND A STRAW!

The straw fucking kills it for me. Come on, GF, you did the
>One head, two heads, three heads, four!
shit in Gen. I to death already.

A lot of other Pokemon based on objects look like they could be existing, believable animals within the context of the game, even if they do not have natural origins, like Grimer or Trubbish. Vanillux just looks like an actual ice cream cone with a face and a fucking straw stuck in it.
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>>323983693
>TWO mewtwos

>TWO pikachus
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>>323983880
>he actually thinks Bayonetta legitimately got more votes than Dante

It was rigged bullshit and there's no denying itt. But I'm perfectly okay with that.
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>>323983794
nigga I will fight you
makes me think of a delightful grandpa fish as it's supposed to be for a fossil fish
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In case anyone was wondering why Chandelure got in
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>>323984667
Looks like you missed the idea then.

It's not uninspired because there's more to it than just that. But I'm not sure if I should explain why since you're already dead-set on turning down on the Pokemon.
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>>323984785
translation?
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B
T
F
O
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>>323979943
>guts over no guard
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>>323984834
Gen 5 popularity poll from Nintendo Dream
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>>323984564
We can assume it means characters they could actually put in the game without shelling out to license the character. Even though Snake was in Brawl, that was likely a one-time deal, they'd have to pay to license the character again. Stupid shit like Goku and Shrek that likely topped the polls are obviously not feasible either for the same reasons.
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>>323984834
Japan survey of top Gen 5 pokemon.
>>
I literally give zero fucks about a Pokemon button masher, but I think Chandelure is a pretty awesome design and concept.
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>>323979157
If Heracross, Scizor, and Bisharp made the roster I would preorder ten copies.
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>>323984902
>>323984942
It's funny because gen 5 was awful
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>>323983693
>>323983693
SUDOWOODO
SAWK
GOLURK
HAWLUCHA
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Ahahahaha
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>>323984914
>We can assume it means characters they could actually put in the game without shelling out to license the character
I'm not saying that that's what they wanted you to think.

But that's what they wanted you to think. It doesn't just mean Goku and Shrek, it means anyone popular that they didn't feel like doing.
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>>323984564
What am I misinformed about? I'm well aware of what was said, I'm telling you it doesn't matter. Bayonetta was chosen regardless.

Realizable is pretty simple in what it means. Getting the rights to use the character and having them fit.

The poll was never the deciding factor, whether she was number 1 or 1 million doesn't matter. Everyone who wasn't a moron already knew this was the case. So you getting butthurt over him saying she was number 1 makes no difference, that wasn't even the point of the poll. Top votes did not equal getting in, either way. There was nothing to rig.
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>>323984785
Grass snake could've gotten in, we could've had an actually snake fighter.
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>>323977661
Lucha Pika and Shadow Mewtwo

Raichu
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>>323985151
nice conspiracy anon
>>
>>323985062

ebin
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>>323985062
BW2 and Platinum are the best games as far as content and features go.
>>
>>323984787
>I won't bother to elaborate on my point because you wouldn't GET IT anyway!
Yup, acting like a completely condescending douchnozzle sure makes you look like you're credible and should be listened to. Why are you being so antagonistic? I explained that I didn't like them and detailed why, I didn't call you any names or imply that you're an asshole for liking this Pokemon.

They're also based on stalagmite/stalagtites. I like plenty of new Pokemon, just not these. And funfact, the Vanillux line was designed by some white dude and not the usual crew at Creatures. Same guy also designed Golurk and his pre-evo and I thought they were okay.
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>>323985324
I didn't say that, I said you wouldn't like it anyway.

And anon I said it's fine not to like them. What I disagree is them being uninspired when they in fact are. If they are uninspired, then they are generic ice cream. But there's layers to their design, so they are inspired after all.

You want uninspired? Snorlax or Charizard.
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>>323984667
>Grimer
>a literal blob that turns into a bigger angrier blob
>this is somehow acceptable while Vanilluxe is not
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>>323985062
Gen 5 was like the best one. Though Gen 6 was shit.
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>>323984743
the ballot wasn't popularity contest to begin with anyways.

if it was, the true winner would be an unfiltered botted vote or Goku.

it was always a suggestion box.
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>>323969695
>This thing is in a fighting game
>Nobody is actually voting for any fighting types anymore
>Not even sawk, Throh.

There's no fucking way this bitch is getting in then.

FUCK
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>>323985197
Except they picked her because she was number 1. Meaning everyone who said that placement didn't matter was full of shit.
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>>323984708
>only one Charizard

IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>323985645
BUT FIGHTING TYPES ARE SHIT!!!
>>
>>323984901
No Guard is generally better in more situations but Guts is nothing to sneeze at and No Guard can potentially help your opponent. Guts allows you to switch into Pokemon that would normally not only wall but cripple Machamp entirely with a burn. It also boosts attack while paralyzed or poisoned and Machamp doesn't care about being slow and generally doesn't stick around long anyway.

I loved switching Conkeldurr into burns in Gen.V and watching as my opponent takes a good 2+ minutes for their next turn, scrambling to respond, after I OHKO whatever just burned me with Drain Punch, healing Conkeldurr in the process.
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>>323985667
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I hoped it was mudkip to resurrect an old meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP5i5-G2f3c
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>>323974814
>Reunicles and Whimsicott
I never realized how badly i wanted them added until now.
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>>323975020
>Stunfisk

How? Why?
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I prefer Croagunk's design over Toxicroak but either would be amazing
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>>323976817
it also doesn't look a fucking thing like a chandelier.
>>
>>323985465

Admittedly they might have been a little more creative, but slime monsters are one of the most established monster design tropes in the jrpg genre. Not having a pile of slime with a face would have been weird.

That being said I don't really mind vanilluxe either, because it's not literally ice cream, but it's a stalactite with snow on it to look like ice cream. It creatively brings an artificial spin on nature. Unlike fucking klefki, the most offensive pokemon design in the series, it's literally just a keychain with a face
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>>323985773
Mudkip wasn't really a meme for nips

Marshtomp however was

>>323985841
Nigga Stunfisk is the perfect merchandise pokemon
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>>323985465
>Vanilluxe
>acceptable

It looks even more ridiculous from the back
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>>323985304
>BW2
Same obnoxious hand-holding BW, XY and ORAS had and it lost all the charm and sense of a fresh adventure BW captured so well with having nothing but new Pokemon. I do not understand why it gets so much praise, I saw zero reason to buy it after BW. Even the new egg moves and move tutors were moot if you had an AR.

Endgame for me was breeding and then battling other people, not battling more AI trainers in the tower/frontier for points to buy TMs/items I could get instantly with an AR.
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POST CHANDELURE
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>>323985667
Or they happened to like the number 1 choice and went with it. Being number 1 didn't mean a character would be picked, but it didn't mean they wouldn't either. From the very beginning the poll was not intended to choose the character by total votes. If it worked out that way then it did, either way you got Bayonetta.
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>>323985927
It works with Klefki though. It fools people into thinking it's a keychain so that it can steal keys.

I also love that fucker.
>>
Do you think there will ever be a Pokken 2 so we can have a roster that's even remotely decently sized? It's not like I dislike any choices really (except Pikachu Libre please fuck off) but when there's so many possibilities having a small roster burns.
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>>323985726
NO FUCK YOU
>>
>no bug pokemon
feels bad desu
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>>323986051
Well the game will most likely be continuly updated.
But if it sells well I don't see why a Pokken 2 wouldn't be possible.
>>
how would you clowns feel if this thing was in Smash 5?

a lot of people want a "rep" from each Gen and this thing is looking like one of the more popular if not most of gen 5
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>>323985945
you'll never unsee it
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>>323985927
Klefki is a fairy who allegedly collects keys because they look like him

I get your point but if you are going to make the "artificial spin on nature" point for Vanilluxe the same can be said for Klefki
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>>323986051
Depends how well it's doing in arcades and how well it will sell on wii u. They have to hire the Tekken team again for it
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>>323986051
No, it'll be dead on arrival.

FGC as a whole don't give a shit about Nintendo anything.
Smash aspies are faggots who are allergic to actually good gameplay.
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>WAHHHHHH ALL CHARACTERS IN A FIGHTING GAME HAVE TO BE BIPEDAL HUMANOIDS

What the fuck is wrong with people? Have you people never played a fighting game with character variety or have you just tunnel visioned Tekken and Street Fighter your whole life like an autist?
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>>323985465
Grimer's design was simple and effective. It's just a pile of shit. I find a pile of shit that mutated into a living organism due to radiation/pollution more believable than a stalagmite/stalagtite that became an ice cream cone because. And why would it have a fucking pinstripe straw? Where did that come from?

The problem I have with Vanillux, and other newer Pokemon in general, is that the designs are both too busy and/or are based on too specific a manmade item. And before you scream GENWUNNER I feel the same about Pokemon like Magnemite too.
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>>323986174
Well, as much as I love Chandy, it'd be retarded to have a "rep" of gen 5 in Smash. People make up these retarded ass rules like "oh, you have to have proper type representation!", which no one developing these games gives a dick about.

But just for what-if?-sake, as far as "reps" for Gen 5, though, they would be a bit tough. Zoroark likely would be if GF didn't handle that pokemon so shittily when trying to push it as the mascot.

Outside of that, Hydreigon, Bisharp, Stunfisk and Genesect are all really the only popular and/or iconic choices. Hydreigon would be based as fuck, but I could only really imagine Genesect.
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>>323986213

Iciciles exist in nature, and look like ice cream cones kind of. Keychains don't exist in nature. Fuck the fairy type in general, it's basically just an excuse to say "LOL JUST GIVE THAT RANDOM OBJECT EYES, AND MAKE IT CUTE, NOW ITS A FAIRY!" Slurpuff can suck a big fat one as well
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A FUCKING GHOST POKEMON IN A FIGHTING GAME?!
IT'S LIKE THEY HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED A FUCKING POKEMON GAME!
THE ABSOLUTE DUMB-ASSES!
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>>323985472
Gen 1: Great
Gen 2: Great
Gen 3: Good
Gen 4: Bad
Gen 5: Awful
Gen 6: Awful
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>>323986251
It might not be competitive. But it doesn't mean it won't sell a fair amount.
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>>323986251
the time when Sm4sh get modded and played on PC is the time when Sm4sh can truly die and the meme push by NoA can fuck off and drown the melee fans from streams
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>>323986478
>forgetting Scrafty
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>>323984564
In terms of popularity, Bayonetta only placed first in Europe with no restrictions. In the US, she was 5th after excluding unrealizable and non-negotiable....which literally could be applied to anyone, not just Shrek or Goku. Ridley could be too big, so hes not realizable. Ubisoft could have not offered enough money, so Rayman wasn't recognizable. The list goes on and on. So at the end of the day, Bayonetta was not a winner by any means, only who Nintendo wanted to be playable, and could get the best deal out of.
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>>323986251
>FGC as a whole don't give a shit about Nintendo anything.
>Smash aspies are faggots who are allergic to actually good gameplay.
You're so hilariously butthurt over Smash being a more popular fighting game than 95% of the games played competitively by FGC.
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>>323986442
>believable

also it never became an ice cream come, you only perceive it as an ice cream cone, it literally is an icicle with cold winds coming out of its chute to create snow

it's called twisting the imagination gears
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>>323978258
One of the pixie/event legends like Celebi or Keldeo is very likely

A bug type, maybe Scizor, which would also be their gen 2 rep

Greninja because Greninja

A Normal type, I could see Cinccino, Lopunny, Kangaskhan and/or Tauros getting in, maybe even a flying type like Staraptor

Too lazy to check if any of these are support/background mons but I think they're plausible regardless
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>>323986519
where were you when gengar was announced?
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>>323986490
lots of pokemon themes don't exist in nature too, as most are abstract

>shitting on slurpuff
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>>323986132
I fully expect a Bug Pokemon to join the roster before launch
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>>323986519
>Implying there's not a multitude of elements being used by standard attacks
>Only 3 Fighting types, rest are multi-elemental

No anon. It looks like you're the one who hasn't played a pokemon game. What, do you think just because a pokemon is a Fighting type, it suddenly can't attack a Ghost pokemon no matter what?

Also
>Implying types matter in this game
>Implying there's already not a fucking Ghost you ingrate jesus christ do your research before shit posting
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>>323986621
Backgrounds are now fair game (though I can't see more coming beyond maybe Heracross), Chandelure was background.

Supports are still off the table.
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>>323969695
This is actually kind of cool, roster was looking kind of shit but this could be interesting.
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>>323986490
It's not really a keychain. It's a sprite that steals keys for purpose of being a dick. I didn't like the design but the Pokemon as a concept grew on me.
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>>323986251
Nigger this isn't for FGC, this is for the actual pokemon events
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>>323985645
>Wanting to clutter the game with fighting types
>Not even interesting ones like Breloom or Meloetta
>Just boring, literally who shit like Hitmonchan
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>>323986538
Gen 1: Okay
Gen 2: Great
Gen 3: Good
Gen 4: Awesome
Gen 5: Great
Gen 6: Good
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>>323986478
>People make up these retarded ass rules like "oh, you have to have proper type representation!", which no one developing these games gives a dick about.
Welcome to the Pokemon fandom.
>MUH PATTERNZ
>MUST COMPLETE STARTER SET SCEPTILE CONFIRMED
And then you have the retards who postulate endlessly over how each and every character choice is a carefully-considered marketing ploy to promote a years-old Nintendo game.

Yup, they put Bayonetta in Smash to sell another 200K copies of Bayo 2 a year and ahalf later! Yup, that's why, not because the fans asked for the character in the poll and the dev team thought thy could do some fun stuff with the character.
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>>323986595
>if more people like it that means it's better ^^

Why even bother playing anything besides LoL then?
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>>323976267
>Lilligant
>better design
Nah. Bellossom has a god tier design. Lilligant is pretty bland desu.
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Im gonna fap to Pokemon porn and /v/ cant stop me.
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>>323986831
>Gen 4: Awesome
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MOAR INFO

>Some modes have been announced for the Wii U version of Pokkén Tournament. First is the standard Single Battle, which has three different difficulty levels. Next is the previously announced local battle where one player plays on the GamePad and another with a standard controller. During this mode, the game will run at 30fps rather than the standard 60fps. Finally is the online mode which has rankings and competitions. It also states that you can use a LAN Cable to link two Wii Us
>Edit @ 05:17: Two new sets of Support Pokémon have also been revealed. The first set includes Pachirisu and Magikarp while the second set includes Sylveon and Croagunk. In addition to this, 12 new Wii U screenshots have been added to our pre-release screenshot page. Click the image to go to the page
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>>323985151
No, it means what they said it means, stop reading more into it than is there and making up your own version of reality.
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>>323986920
Oh yeah?
Well I can still join you
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>>323986442
Well you don't have to like every design, no one does. But as far as object poke go just get over it? Pokemon are not animals of our world, they are mysterious creatures no one knows shit about. Some of them mimic objects for various reasons.

Don't get me wrong I don't like the vanil line myself, but I don't see a reason to get mad. It wears snow, and can create it. Underneath is a solid ice pokemon. The straw is to expel winds and shit, though of course the placing is to make it look like a straw in ice cream.
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>>323986940
>Next is the previously announced local battle where one player plays on the GamePad and another with a standard controller. During this mode, the game will run at 30fps rather than the standard 60fps
...
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>>323986940
AWWWW SHIT

>>323985852
>>323985852
>>323985852


B T F O !!!
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>>323977159
Huh. That's actually pretty fascinating. It's interesting learning about memes from other countries.
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>>323987067
It's expected. I honestly think they wouldn't do local because of how taxing ti would be.
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>>323986940
CROGUNK AND SYLVEION FAGS BTFO
But shit yeah I am gonna love Pachirisu assist
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>>323986940
>It also states that you can use a LAN Cable to link two Wii Us
neat, if that retains the 60 fps then it'll be the way to play locally
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>>323986874
>N-n-no one in FCG gives a SHIT about anything Nintendo!
>B-b-but Smash doesn't count because I don't like it even though it's more popular among FGC than everything but fucking Street Fighter!
So very, very salty. A Nintendo game is literally the second most-played and popular game in FGC.
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>>323986940
>It also states that you can use a LAN Cable to link two Wii Us
I KNEW IT, I FUCKING KNEW IT. THERE WAS NO WAY BAMCO WAS THIS DUMB NOT TO DO THIS.
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>>323986940
>During this mode, the game will run at 30fps rather than the standard 60fps
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Shit she fucking rides broom.
Thats pretty cool.
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>>323986595
no, people are just sick of smelly kids who mess around with glitches or bitch about "roster reps" in a party game swamping up FG tourneys with nintendo sliding a quick buck to the admins to keep everything intact
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>>323987035
>But as far as object poke go just get over it?

>Has little to do with the fact that they're based on an object and everything to do with how that concept is executed.
>A lot of other Pokemon based on objects look like they could be existing, believable animals within the context of the game, even if they do not have natural origins

Try reading next time.
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>>323987274
Again >>323987130

If anything, the lan between two wii us is the closest arcade experience
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>>323986842
>Welcome to the Pokemon fandom.

Yeah, trust me I know, I dick around the shithole that is /vp/ enough to see that endless faggotry. What blows my mind is how persistant it is, despite constantly and consistently being proven wrong, people still find patterns in shit and think theyre written in stone.

>Yup, they put Bayonetta in Smash to sell another 200K copies of Bayo 2 a year and ahalf later!

Right. If they really were going to use that strategy, why the fuck would they do it with a non-Nintendo character and an old game?

I just have to say, thank you for this post anon. It's a breath of fresh air to see logic on this side of the internet.

>>323986940
>30 FPS

Okay, this is pretty shitty. This may just straight up kill the chance of it being playable on a large scale competitive level.

I'm sure it was for hardware related issues, but damn. Kind of dissapointing. We'll see though.
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>>323987307
Sure thing, I'll see you at EVO next year when Melee breaks more attendance records and other "real" fighting games are phased out due to lack of entrants/interest.
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>>323987305
Witch's Leyline?
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>>323987219
I don't think smashfags forcing their way into shit really counts.

I mean if I were to take a couple hundred million people and move to the US, we could probably work together to get it changed to an Absolute Dictatorship. That doesn't mean that a majority of Americans support an Absolute Dictatorship.
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>>323987450

>>323987450

>>323987450

Continue
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>>323987313
That was more meant towards people that are anti object pokemon in general, I will try harder I promise.
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>>323979874
He's gotta be in. Gamefreak loves him.

And so do I.
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>>323987219
>still trying to force the "it's better because it's more popular"!

Why are smashfags so cancerous
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>>323987417
Its clearly set to 30 fps so that the gamepad can handle it and it is fair between the two screens.
Most competitive will use a link cable instead.
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>>323980440
He used to be an A minus rank mascot for the series back when the first games launched, he might be in.
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>>323987417
did you even read anon

Wii U LAN
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>>323987305
Reminds me of Roll in Tatsunoko vs Capcom
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>>323987417
>Okay, this is pretty shitty. This may just straight up kill the chance of it being playable on a large scale competitive level.
It just cuts the number of concurrent matches in half, since you need 2 systems and TVs for full 60 FPS local.
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>>323987130
>>323987384
Why is it taxing at all in the first place though? That's the part I'm not getting, there's not much going on. Tone down the visuals, it's a fucking Wii U game people aren't expecting it to look spectacular in the first place. Fighting game players want better performance, not better visuals.

30fps multiplayer basically means it's a 30fps game for all intensive porpoises.
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>>323987546
it's not the gamepad/2 screens so much as it is the fact that it's rendering the game twice
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>>323987653
The Wii U renders two different things at the same time. It doesn't have the man power to do it.

In the arcades those are two separate machines rendering it.
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>>323987552
Yeah, you're right, I missed that. Worries are gone now, that's much better.

It'll still be a bit awkward as number of consoles/TVs is a very real issue to deal with when it comes to setting up large scale tourneys, but the game's no longer restricting the possibility.
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>>323987535
they were cancerous enough to push three competitive mod and two fangames to tourneys

no surprise
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>>323987467
>I don't think smashfags forcing their way into shit really counts.
>forcing their way in

>It's -MY- FGC, not theirs!
kek

Majority of the community likes Smash, it gets more players than everything but street Fighter. It's a staple, get fucking used to it, crybaby.
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>>323987653
Because they know that the only people who will be buying are
>Pokemon fans that are used to shit framerates by now
>Smash players that are only in it for the funny maymays
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>>323987770
>The Wii U renders two different things at the same time
So don't do that for this game? Why cant it just work like every other fighting game ever?
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>>323987794
The point is that you faggots are new, and being new, you should be polite and respectful of everyone else. Instead you behave like literal children (which I assume you are, since you play a fucking party game competitively) and demand everyone else respect you.
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>>323986538
Gen 1: Didn't play
Gen 2: Played a bit but the battery tanked on the cartridge, good for what I played
Gen 3: Good
Gen 4: D/P were garbage, HGSS redeemed it
Gen 5: I like it because the gameplay is at its most refined and the game had the setup of a genuine reboot. Graphics are probably my favorite point about Gen 5
Gen 6: Horrible visuals with low framerate and colors too bright, new Pokemon roster was weak, the new focus on mega evolution is tiresome
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>>323987919
have you seen footage of this game? the perspective doesn't work for both players
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>>323987919
Because that's how the game works you nignog. Why change it? That's how the arcade machines work.
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>>323987974
>The point is that you faggots are new, and being new, you should be polite and respectful of everyone else
Oh, like you?

>FUCKING SMASHFAGS RUINGING MY FGC BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW
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>>323984051
>yfw Shadow Tyranitar
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>>323987992
>Platinum redeemed it. HGSS was a bonus
ftfy
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>>323988046
cute
>>
>OH FUCK THIS GHOST TYPES SHOULDNT BE IN IT SHOULD BE ALL FIGHTING SHIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYNDNk9ZGj4

If you don't want to play Gengar get off my planet.
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>>323988019
>Why change it?
Because it severely hampers the multiplayer experience, which is kind of the most important part of a fighting game?

I understand it was this way by design, but designing it that way when the console just can't handle it is a fucking stupid decision because it really hurts the MP experience and functionality.
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>>323984051
Battra

Final Wars Gigan

Desighidorah, Grand King Ghidorah, Keizer Ghidorah
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>>323987992
> Graphics are probably my favorite point about Gen 5
Is this a joke, the fucking graphics were awful because they were constantly animated pixel art.

>>323988105
>platinumfags

take your awful taste and don't let the door drill you in the ass on the way out
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>>323988142
This is what of someone with no argument remaining looks like.

Face it, nerd, he's right. Most people either like Smash or don't care. This isn't 2007 anymore, people are okay with it being in the FGC.
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>>323988253
And that's why they made it an option to actually work like the arcade machine, i.e. two wii u with lan
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>>323988165
Gengar will always be my favorite Pokemon. It's e-line are professional trolls and he's badass.
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>>323988105
Platinum didn't fix the bland, forgettable region, the crappy new Pokemon that were 30% ugly evolutions of existing Pokemon and I'm fairly certain it didn't even fix the slow-as-fucking-molasses UI and movement.
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>>323988312
>hurr durr I win

Okay, I'm not going to sit here arguing with literal children who throw a tantrum the moment anyone questions their illegitimate claim to thet hrone.
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>>323986538
>any gen before the physical-special split
>good

4 and 5 were the only good gens, and I say this as a guy who started playing in gen 3
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>>323988281
>anti-platinumfag
Lead by example, fuccboi.
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>>323988105
This. Platinum was, at the time, the best fucking Pokemon in terms of content. Only Emerald came close in terms of sheer shit to do. When HG/SS followed it up, we thought we would be onto a glorious age of postgame content.

Sadly things kinda peaked there and only BW2 reached that level again.
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>>323988408
Literal drooling retard alert
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>>323988390
>Sinnoh
>bland, forgettable region
The garbage taste I expected from /v/.
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>>323988390
>the crappy new Pokemon
Staraptor > all Normal/Flying birds before him, fuck you.

>that were 30% ugly evolutions of existing Pokemon
Sounds like you're angry that they dared to make your favorite Pokemon better by giving them evolutions.
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>>323988408
>Hoennbabbies actually think their opinion is worth anything at all
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>>323988390
pretty sure HG/SS is Platinum still

BW is the one that improved speed
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>>323988338
Again, that would not be necessary at all if not for these weird design decisions. Performance is the most important part of a fighting game.

I don't care why it is the way it is, MP not being 60fps unless you have two consoles is a negative and is detrimental to the game and experience. That doesn't help anyone who wants to bring the console and play with friends who don't have Wii Us and/or the game and makes tourney setup more of a hassle. And you need two LAN adapters on top of that, that's yet another accessory I'll use for all of one game like the GC adapter for Smash.
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>>323988439
nah, I'm one of the sane few left who don't fuck around with the idiocy of the sinnoh generation and the people who like it, like >>323988576
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>>323988576
sinnoh is easily the worst of the first 4 but the first 4 were all better than 5 and 6
pokemon used to have actual wilderness, you know places you'd expect to run into animals/monsters. now it's cities and streets
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>>323988390
Speed was fine in Platinum. Pretty comparable to Emerald right?
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>>323988665
Sure, sport. Whatever you say.
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>>323988656
nigga fighting game is about mimicking the arcade performance as much as possible, it's the reason why you don't see PS2 people playing MvC2, but rather DC

it's the same idea here
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>>323988702
Here, have another (you), you fucking pleb.
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>>323978258
>2 pikachus
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>>323988829
that was my first post in the discussion you spaz
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>>323988392
>Smash is still the second most popular game behind SF
>Smash still has more entrants than any game aside from SF

>You're still sperging out over how -YOUR- FGC is being ruined by Smash faggots who need to be "polite and respectful"

kek
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>>323988829
how about you stop being retarded and defending game freak for being shit and refusing to get better after the awful Generation 4.
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>>323988952
You're working for these responses.
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>>323989025
>unironically defending anything gamefreak has produced since Diamond and Pearl
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>>323989073
>still working like a filthy slut
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>>323989161
Pull down your pants and I'll show you how much of a slut I can be. This is nothing.
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>>323988614
HGSS did not suffer from the slow-ass UI and movement, thankfully. Compare DPPt and HGSS side-by-side and you'll see what I mean.

It takes me almost a full minute to scroll to the bottom of my bag in Pearl, and since there's no PC storage I can't lighten the bag to make that quicker. Surfing is where the slow movement is very apparent. Everything was slow, more time looking at a black screen between battles/zoning, longer animations, longer startup for animations, longer delay between animations/effects ending and you being able to act/input again etc. Simply starting a battle, throwing out your Pokemon and picking your first move is slow as shit compared to pretty much any other game in the series.

It's hard to explain, you need to see it in motion.
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>>323989274
Uh HGSS uses Platinum's engine

You're assuming Platinum is DP when it's not
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>>323989252
You know I only do that behind the building, hun.
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>>323989362
But then everyone can't watch.
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