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I'm about to start Bloodborne. What should I expect?

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I'm about to start Bloodborne. What should I expect?
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A video game
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>>323960565
thanks
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A good game, probably the best ps4 has to offer. Not sure if you are familiar with the Souls series, but making sense out of the story can be a bit hard.

Also, if you are having problems with bosses don't be shy and just summon people for coop. It helps a lot.
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>>323961172
Fuck off.
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Learn to visceral attack
Shoot your gun when the enemy is just about to attack. Then you get to shove your first in their face for big damage.
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>>323961237
Certainly.
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>>323960480
How about you turn the game on or watch a video on YT or maybe a review online you fucking dweeb
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A really great game.

Hope you have the DLC, it really is that good.
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expect to die a lot xDd game is so hard
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>>323961391
thank you for the advice, my friend. I'm waiting for the update file to download, and I have, I just wanted more personal opinions from people on the internet.
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>>323961945
ffs, the entire game in a nutshell
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uPP1e7hOyik" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Fun
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>>323962247
That's a cute loli
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>>323960480
expect the gayest plot twist of all time. trust me, it's pretty gay
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>>323962247
>those tags
Is that a new meme?
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/r/ing that four-panel comic of Micolash stitching the wolves together.
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>>323960480
If you haven't played From games before, know that the controls are probably the tightest in vidyaland, but they have to be because timing is everything. You cannot buttonmash your way out of much in these games, because every enemy is potentially lethal.

The first area of the game is very difficult because you have to wade through dozens of enemies in order to get to the first checkpoint, and then you have some more grinding to do before you can use your experience.

Just be patient. I'll predict you'll die 40 or so times before getting to the first boss, but you'll eventually settle in and learn via attrition.
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>>323960480
Beasts all over the shop.
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>>323960480
Learn your preferred Weapon's moveset intimately
Learn to parry
Don't stack insight
Axe is OP
Cleaver's good
Blade of mercy is shit don 't bother
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>>323963257
>Don't stack insight

With one exception.
You can now buy bood rocks for 60 insight after beating the wet nurse.
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>>323960480
What if, instead of just predicting the state of the world in MGSII, Kojima actually caused it by putting out a self-fulfilling prophesy?
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>>323963257
>Don't stack insight
Why?
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you can parry almost anything in this game
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>>323963518
Frenzy
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>>323963518

At around 15 Insight enemies start getting new attacks and getting stronger. Also there's enemies called Brainsuckers who can eat up to 2 Insight from you if they kill you.
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>>323963518
After accumulating 12 insight, some enemies gain additional powers and attacks. It's supposed to symbolize the world changing as the knowledge of the madness reks your brain and soul. The game is very Lovecraftian
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>>323963518
Lowers your frenzy resist and after 20, enemies get new moves and hit harder.
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I just bought it recently and I'm not very far. After you beat a couple bosses it becomes pretty easy to get lost and not know which direction to take next. I opened like 3 new lanterns without ever finding another boss fight and each of those has multiple directions to leave from. Finally found Vicar Amelia after just picking a path and going as far as it will take me. Turns out theres a lot of optional content.
The best way to fight things in this game is to just man up and go for it. You get rewarded for being as aggressive as possible. More strength means you hit harder and you heal more when you strike back fast enough.
Arcane and Bloodtinged seem shitty and useless now, but I'm sure there's some really good late game items that use them.
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>>323960480
A Lovecraftian take on Christian mythological themes that's not just "Jesus with tentacles".
Nice little sidequests
At least one new waifu
And a meme come true
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AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY AWAY
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The only reason to have a PS4.

Have fun OP. Don't play defensively.
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I also just started and I'm wondering where I should put my points into as I level. I had a decent amount of blood echoes leftover after I unlocking the doll by beating that Cleric monster and I'm currently 10 vitality, 10 endurance, 17 str and 16 skill. i'm not bothering with arcane or bloodtinge
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>>323963257
>Blade of mercy is shit don 't bother
Why would you lie on the internet?
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>>323963997
>frogposter
Get frenzied
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>hidden path lies ahead, but beware hunter
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>>323963997
Choose either STR or SKL to get to 50, the other one to 25.

Get about 20-30 endurance, dump the rest into vitality.

Reason why is that most weapons scale with both strenght and skill, 25 is soft cap, 50 is hard cap. You don't need too much stamina, so 20-30 is all right depending on your weapon, and you definitely need more vit because many enemies will one hit kill you otherwise.
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>>323964079
>shit damage
>shit reach
>barely stunlocks anyting
>can't backstab in transformed mode
>can't be buffed, unlike rakuyo
>need to play defensively in an offense oriented game
>shit rally
Wew
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>>323963939
THIS TOWNS FINISHED!
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PLAGUE RIDDEN RAT
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>>323963939
YA PLAGUE RIDDEN RAT
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>>323960675
>Also, if you are having problems with bosses don't be shy and just summon people for coop. It helps a lot.

Fuck no, that's the worst thing you can tell someone new to Souls

Games for Windows Live, being the broken piece of shit it was, wouldn't let me sign into my account at any point, meaning I had to play Dark Souls offline. I was really pissed off because I was fucking awful at it and I couldn't summon anyone to help me. I eventually beat the game (which actually isn't very hard after that initial barrier of not being in the right mindset) and it was easily the best experience I've had playing a video game.

Then, I got my friend to play it by telling him how great it was. He finishes it, and I find out that he scummoned his way through the entire game, then told me the gameplay sucked and it was a bullshit game.

You can summon NPCs if you're having trouble (in some cases it can improve your experience, like everyone's bromance with Solaire), but summoning actual people can fuck your experience up, especially in Dark Souls II where there are enough players for you to co-op your way through the entire game effortlessly with 4 phantoms at once.
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>>323960480
Nice bait, but i will bite.

You will experience an amazing world.
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>>323960480
Expect Ayy Waifus
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As someone who sank hundreds of hours into dark souls and dark souls 2, should I get a PS4 just for Bloodborne?
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>>323960480
Although all Souls games suffer from it to a degree, this game has a serious issue of "surprise" enemies hiding behind corners that jump out to try and take you unaware. The trick only really works once, but be on guard. There are several in the early areas, and a few unexpected variations in later areas/DLC.
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>>323964649
>ring bell at beginning of every checkpoint
>literally let someone else play the entire game for me
>just do sweet taunts the whole time they bear the game

kek git gud nerds
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>>323964649
>tfw I watched my friend summon 4 people at once to fight the smelter demon in DaS 2.
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>>323964748
No, wait until the console has at least one other game. Bloodborne is great, but it's not worth $500.
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>>323964649

this desu

>banging my head against the wall trying to kill ebreitas
>give in and give summoning a try
>its some bloodtinge fag who shoots her twice and she's gone

not satisfying at all.
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>>323963939
FOUL BEAST
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>>323964865
I also did this. I thought this game was supposed to be hard lol
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Should I send the beggar to the chapel or just kill him?
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>>323965273
You'd best have poison knives.
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>>323965273
KILL HIM
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>>323965273
KILL HIM
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Lovecraft ripoff with fun gameplay
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>>323965273
Do whatever you want to to, it's your game.
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>>323963645
>>323963690
>>323963728
>>323963803
Fuck I didn't know that, currently at 60 insight.
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The first three weapons you get are all top tier. The rest of the weapons you'll find are utter shite unless you get the DLC.
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>>323965659

Where are you?
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>>323965713
>cane
>top tier
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>>323965659
Go buy a blood rock, Anon.
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>>323965112
>Old Hunter rolled around
>try to kill Ebrietas again
>summon that hunter npc into the fight
>does literally nothing, got stuck on the wall
>just L2 the bitch to death with my pizza cutter

Eazy-E
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I'm in the middle of my first playthrough, haven't purchased the DLC yet. Are the new weapons only found in the DLC areas or are they available somehow in the base game?
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>>323960480
Dodge forward never back
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>>323965659
it's really not a big deal, the only real downside to high insight is the low frenzy resist
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>>323960480
30 fps so it will not feel like DMC game, do your best with timing attack
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>>323965273
Neither you fool
Send him to Iosefka's
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sickdark content
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>>323965112
>>323964649
I don't know, friends, I'm summoning people a whole lot a the game is still very enjoyable. It's a bit too stressful otherwise, maybe I'm a casual but that's how I roll.

Also, I went Arcane all the way with my first build. Was this a poor decision?
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>>323965878
>he doesn't rock the pimp cane

pleb
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>>323965273
Send him to Iosefka's Clinic. She's bound to care for him under her Hippocratic Oath, after all.
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>>323965961
No. Get the dlc, gotta get that bloodletter and rakuyo
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>>323946832
2bh the should make summons only for the areas and not bosses on NG

Multiple people on bosses trivializes the battles and makes them Piss easy
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>>323964649
>want to test the summoning system in BB
>ring a bell near Vicar
>dude kills her with like 5 hits

well that was anticlimatic
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>>323966101
>oh, my wrists are so weak I need to swat beasts like a hypoglycemic octogenarian
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>yfw Upper Cathedral Ward
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>>323965769
The sky is purple and I'm fresh out of Cainhurst, a bit lost now.
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>>323966137
Sorry, I wasn't clear there. I know I have to buy the DLC to get the weapons, but do I have to actually go through the new areas for all them or do some get thrown into base game areas/shop?
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>>323965912
Will do, thanks!
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>>323966426

Have you killed Rom?
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tedium
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>>323966704
Yeah, rushed him with tonitrus.
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>PCkeks still thinking they will get to play Nier
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>>323966370
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>>323966904

But I will, I'll play it on my PS4.
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>>323966904

whoops, shit posting in wrong thread

vilebloods are fags
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>>323966370
>those slurping sounds
I wish the game was more like this throughout
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>>323966850

Okay. Your next stop is either Yahargul or the optional Nightmare Frontier. Yahargul's down from where you teleport after killing Rom, Frontier is gotten to by getting grabbed by the Amygdla in the same room with the Tonsil stone, which sends you to the Lecture Building where you can exist to the Frontier.

You can get a key in Yahargul that opens the upper cathedral ward too.
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>>323966850
Go to Ya'hargul now. Or grand cathedral of you've been talking to eileen.
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>>323966850
Have you gone to Iosefka'a clinic the back way? You can get a cord from her now. Arianna too I think
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>>323960480
>half of the areas in Bloodborne were as linear as Dark Souls 2's areas, except Bb had elevators which connected the beginning, middle and end of the level, which was not in any way on par with Dark Souls 1's intertwining paths and shorcuts.
>can't invade people who don't have summons with
>everyone using the Chicago Blade
>all armor set are either: a coat, a mess of plumes, or a tuxedo with a cape
>enemies don't drop any kind of armor since enemy variety is minimal to the point where you see first level enemies all the way through to the last areas
>bosses don't drop any type of "boss soul" so most of the time you get no lore for them
>no wrapping between lanterns
> have to return to Hunter's Dream everytime
>can't rest at lanter to respawn enemies, have to die or go back to Hunter's dream again
>Blood Vials don't refill evetrime you rest at a lantern, despite only being able to carry 20 (more with runes) at a time. You have to buy/farm them, so you can't endesly try to fight a boss without having to go get more vials every few attempts, which could have been fixed very easily by just always giving you 20 vials or less everytine you respawn
>NCP's more forgettable than the ones in Dark Soul 2
>game is supoosed to center around the health recovery mechanic but most bosses 1-2 shoot you to death
>can't look back at environment and say "wow, I remember I was there! And how I walked all the way to here! Oh look, a tower in the distance! I bet I'll eventually go there!" Since there are so much random pointy buildings and towers all around you don't even get to go inside of, you can't tell where you've been before.
>"Unseen village" is lower than regular Yharnam, anyone can see it from a balcony
>assets are reused AGAIN to the point where they put dog (same enemy which we have seen in literally every Souls game) heads on crows and crow heads on dogs and call it a new enemy
>story more obtuse than any other soul games, no real answers for main plot elements
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Ebby is purest waifu
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>>323966370
>aggressive werewolves crash through windows to wreck your shit
>you can stand on the other side of doors and safely attack them while they fail to fit through the door
>it's a good way to farm chucks
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>mfw I realized the majority of Souls players were only able to beat the games by finding things out from other players online
These games are good, but fuck if the community isn't absolute dogshit, and fuck if half of it isn't all about just knowing where to look and what item to use at the right time. Save for Bloodborne, which is so much more straightforward and why it's the best game in the series yet.
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>lose to the cleric beast
>everyone said he was easy as shit
>realize a suck hard and get depressed
My spirit is gone
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>tfw those voices when you consume insight
>tfw those voices from the mutated brain creatures
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>>323967162
>>323967296
The hunters in the Cathedral are wrecking my shit hard, do I have to fight them or can I just run away like a pussy?
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>>323967738
Keep trying Anon! I believe in you :3
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>>323967738
>watch friend play BB at my house
>kills cleric on his first try
>gets stuck at Papa for 2 hours

it was exact opposite for me
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>>323967738
Shoot him when he attacks, then go for visceral. Keep trying and you will get a good feel for the timing.
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I also started Bloodborne recently. I saw Ludwig's Holy Blade in the shop, but it was 20k blood echoes. Is it worth it? My strength and skill are equal right now.
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>>323968061
You mean bloody crow? Of you want to finish Eileen's quest you need to kill him, drops a very useful rune. If you mean the ones in the nightmare, yeah you can run, but I for one don't like looking over my shoulder. If you mean the trio, just run outside to separate them and take them out one at a time.
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>>323967738
You'll get better. I had to summon someone for the Cleric Beast, but I managed to beat Gasgcoine and Blood Starved Beast on my own after that.
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>>323968405
To be fair, the gun-parry system is a little obscure from the start and a lot of people are completely oblivious to it until they're told by guides/friends to utilize it against Gascoigne.
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DODGE

FORWARD
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Don't go arcane first time through, scaling works differently in BB than souls

You may want to steer clear of bloodtinge too
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>dying to cleric beast
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>>323968496
Already killed the guy for the Eileen's quest. Yeah I was talking about the trio. Thanks for the tips!
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>>323967738
The object is to dash forward and underneath it before it attacks. Rarely dash backwards in this game. Everything about the game wants you to play aggressively, so do it.
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>>323968480

It's the go-to first-timer weapon.
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A masterpiece and the best game released so far in the decade 2010 - 2020.
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>>323967738
Whenever you see someone say something is really easy they usually have tons of experience playing Souls in general and will probably not have difficulty with most of the game, period.

Go search Yharnam for blood shards to upgrade your weapon, you get enough for +2 and can grind to get to +3 if you really need that extra damage to compensate until you master the game's mechanics.

Also keep in mind that BB has a Monster Hunter esque limb damage system where you can damage most beast bosses limbs. Try hitting the Cleric Beast's arms with your heavier attacks, and hit its head when possible, good luck!
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>>323968836
Go-to first-timer weapon like the Drake sword in Dark Souls? Is it a noob trap or is it actually good in the long run?
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>>323968480
Ludwig's is the official Bloodborne meme weapon. It's a quality weapon (B STR, B SKL, A ARC at +10) with good stagger potential. It's the ultimate crutch weapon.

It does kind of limit you after you've really mastered the controls/pace/gameplay, so consider switching it up if you plan on multiple playthroughs.
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>>323969045
Noobtrap
Kirkhammer is a much better weapon
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>>323969045
It's just a really, really good weapon that trivializes the game with its ridiculous stagger and damage.

I find its moveset to be boring, I don't see how anyone uses it.
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>>323960480

>BLOOD
>BEASTS
>PREY SLAUGHTERED

there you go op you're all set
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I hate the second half of the Forbidden forest so goddamn much
Fucking snakes
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>>323969302
>not mentioning the Lovecraftian horrors
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>>323969163
>>323969239
Alright, cool. I'm using the saw spear and the kirkhammer right now, and it seemed conceptually similar to the kirkhammer with the whole "straight sword becomes huge weapon" thing. I was planning on sticking with the threaded cane for some Castlevania goodness, but its damage isn't holding up with my other weapons and hitting walls all the time is getting annoying.
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why is there an npc summon before almost every boss? was this added in a patch?
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>>323969302
>forgetting the sweetest of all
NIGHTMARE SLAIN
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>>323969421
The Forbidden Forest was honestly a mistake, not enough enemy variety in that second half, fighting sneks non stop wasn't too interesting, especially when they die in one hit and can't really hit you.
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>>323967565
I see you added more shit to the copypasta. Do you plan to continue?
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>>323969473
Don't listen to that guy, kirkhammer is shit.
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>>323969668
The Kekhammer is alright, it just suffers from a lack of horizontal attacks. For a pure strength build it's slightly better than Ludwig's.
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When should I start the DLC? NG or NG+?

I heard that chalice dungeons are not effected by NG+, is this true?
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>>323969501
It was added with the DLC patch, I believe.
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>>323969668
What's wrong with it? So far it's been doing a ton of damage and staggers everything without being too slow. My only issue with it right now is that the sword mode is so weak I never use it over hammer mode.
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>>323969421
Nightmare of Mensis.
FUCKHUGE SPIDERS
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>>323969668
>>323969809
Charged R2 then R2 again is the shit
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>>323969668
FUCK YOU KIRK A BEST
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>>323969473
If you like the threaded cane, don't give up on it early on, it is heavily dependent on upgrading and scaling to get decent damage.

Consider keeping it as a side-arm for later when you can pull its real potential out.
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>>323969887
The sword part becomes more reliable after you get to +2 or 3
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>>323969859
Start in NG because you Will get destroyed in NG+. MINIMUM level for dlc is 80.

No chalice dungeons aren't affected by NG+ cycles.
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>>323960480
If you've played other Souls series before, don't expect it to play like them.

Some concepts are the same, but the combat is much more fast paced. I love the dodge system. There is less space for error during invincibility with dodging, but the side steps are way more precise compared to the clumsy rolling from souls games.

It pays to know when to be aggressive too. Sometimes its worth it to get hit and push on to get that health back, and sometimes its better to dodge back and heal instead. Knowing the difference will save you a lot of headache.

Check every little corner in the game too, things are well hidden.

Paying attention to enemies will do a lot for you. At first they seem unpredictable but once you look for tell-tale signs of wind-up for attacks, you can kill most things without getting touched.

Also a note about insight: You get insight for discovering things like Kin, boss battles and some significant things. It's fairly easy to come by, but don't waste it on summoning people unless you really can't beat a boss solo. The more insight you have, the more things change in the game. Whether it's seeing items that weren't there before, or areas, new enemies, and old enemies that get new attacks.

And above all: stay on your toes at all times. Things pursue you in this game way more than souls games. Many times I thought running a few rooms away was safe to bring up the item menu, only to get backstabbed by an enemy I didn't even notice, that followed me all the way there.
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>>323969859
The DLC bosses will give you trouble in NG+ if you don't have prior experience with them (especially the last one), definitely do the DLC in NG for your first time.

Chalice Dungeons do not scale with your NG status, they have a flat difficulty regardless of how many times you've beaten the game. Low-level chalices will always be easy, and endgame chalices will always be "lol my basic attack does 90% of your hp".
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>>323969893
>tfw I killed Patches because I freaked out and saw a spider on the door
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>>323969163
No the meme weapons of BB are the wheel, the kirkhammer, and the cane because they are shit but people defend them

Ludwigs is actually good
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>>323969930
NO. FUCK YOU. IT'S SLOW AS SHIT AND THE STAMINA CONSUMPTION IS NOT WORTH THE DAMAGE AND LUDWIG'S CAN STAGGER JUST AS HARD
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>>323969930
why does that gif look better than the actual game?
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>>323964649
Very much the truth.

I tend to be pretty good at games overall, and never really had any difficulties in the souls series at all. Until the frozen wastes.

I had lost internet due to a snowstorm at the time and had to do the place solo, and I tackled it a little too early, and I also specialized in melee/faith build, which wasn't helping my case with this area. It's the only area in a souls game where I was actually stuck and died more than a handful of times. It's also the only time I put the game down and decided to come back to it later.

I got internet back later that night and decided to summon a generic NPC and an actual player. The player was absolutely one-shotting just about everything and pretty much rolled his way to the boss room. I had trouble with those fucking cats alone, but his damage was out of this world and he had almost killed the first cat before the second jumped down.

I thought to myself: No this is too cheap, I don't even feel good about this win. So I dropped connection and hard reset the game.

Went back and tried a few more times and was finally able to solo the whole area. The sense of accomplishment and relief was unrivaled from anything else I've played in games to date, and I've been playing games since the early 80s.

Summoning people to do the work for you is really the shittiest way to ruin things for yourself.
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>>323970537
>Cane
>Shit

It's great though, it keeps up with other skill weapons in damage and has great range and can be used in Arcane builds too! It's nice to have for crowd control needs, and it has versatility in its moveset with the ability to do holy and serrated damage. pls no bully cane
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>>323970568
>This nicely-balanced weapon is dumb. Just use a meme weapon!
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>>323969917
Axe R2 beats hammer's.
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>>323970537
I didn't mean "meme weapon" as a bad thing, Ludwig's is arguably the best weapon for super-high-level builds because of its EZ-mode quality scaling. I used the phrase "meme weapon" because it's a well-known weapon that a TON of people use to carry them through the game.
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>>323970573
It's at an angle no one plays at
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>>323965460
Why? He's not really hard or anything. You just need to get a feel for the range of his attacks. his punches blow air at you so they reach farther than you think.

Other than that, its a simple dodge and light attack fight. It takes a while, but he completely telegraphs everything he does.
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>>323970734
Similar deal for me. Bloodborne was my first souls game and I summoned on most bosses (except Amelia which I miraculously first tried). But my internet was out when I reached Shadows of Yharnam. It took me 20-something attempts to finally kill them (zero blood vials left) and it was the greatest feeling in the world because *I* did it. From then on I always beat a boss myself before summoning in subsequent playthroughs.
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>>323965576
>Lovecraft ripoff

You mean lovecraft homeage and inspired game? faggot.
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>>323970573
It's from a promotional video.
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>>323970754
>meme weapon
Come back when you can think for yourself.
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>>323971354
I am thinking for myself. Thinking Kirkhammer a best.
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>use 2 handed axe
>just spam L2 and maybe R2 one in a while
>slaughter everything in my path

It can literally clear like 15 enemies in 5 seconds. Nice "game" FROM.
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>>323971024
You have to keep in mind that most people who naturally encounter him are low-leveled and don't have a well-upgraded weapon. Also consider that they've never seen his enemy type or his moveset before. To them, he's a huge issue and they would have a hard time taking him on.
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>>323970463
I will never feel bad about killing that faggot. Better than sex.
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>>323971406
Don't you mean the Tentacle Hammer?
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>>323969549
Of course, it's gotten to the point where it all doesn't fit in one post tho, so rather that posting all in two posts one after the other I choose the best points and only post the rest if peole call it a pasta.

D-do youwanna see the rest?
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>>323971159
No, we don't use meme words like "inspired" or "influenced" here. If it's not completely original in every way, it's a ripoff.
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>>323965912
He can't do that until after he kills Mergo's Wet Nurse.
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>>323971406
Do you use ludwig's? Or chikage?
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>>323971508
>startle him, causing him to teach me the best gesture
>tell him that I'm not mad
>get an amazing rune
>betray his trust and brutally murder him
>Get a Great One's Wisdom
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>>323970573
pre-downgrade version
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>>323971865
They should let you murder him more often.
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>>323971995
they downgraded the graphics?
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>>323972127
It's was the only way to get the game to run at 25fps.
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BB>DeS>DaS1>>>>DaS2
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>>323972232
Are you serious? so BB was supposed to look alot better but the lazy fucking devs just downgraded instead of optimizing?
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goddamn /v/...
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>>323972495
He's lying.
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> tfw i will never get a co-op Van Helsing survival horror because Bloodborne exists

It hurts to live.
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>>323972538
Is Gilbert's beast model unique with those cloths over the eyes?
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>>323972495
BB never looked good
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>>323972538
Everyone succumbs to the curse eventually
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>>323972538
It's okay, he died with his dignity. All that remains is a hollow shell; lay it to rest and allow him to be at peace.
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>>323964381
>That sick speed
>Those sick sidestep stabs
>That sick R2/L2 combo

BoM is the PvP weapon of the thinking man.
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>>323972495
Optimization is not a magic spell that you cast and everything just works suddenly, there are limits to what certain hardware can do. It's true that promotional videos look better than the final product, that's a common practice among publishers, including Sony. After some patches BB is running at stable 30 fps which is pretty good for a From game.
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>>323972495
>Instead of optimising
Anon, there's a limit to what you can do with shit hardware. Add to that the fact that Souls games have never had awesome graphics, just "good enough". BB is carried by its art direction.
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>>323973003
>>323972974
That and FROM are dog shit at coding
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>>323969930
that FPS? Am I dreaming?
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>>323972746
>drink a lead elixir and/or equip the wooden shield
>BoM fags instantly btfo

The BoM is a neat weapon, but it has so many hard counters and its repeated nerfs have only made it lag behind in comparison to other weapons. I much rather have a harder-hitting weapon with more reach, preferably one that I can buff.
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>>323972974
>stable 30 FPS
Not with me. Not even talking about coop, I still get drops, and on certain places / situations the game just shits itself.

It's definitely playable though, far from being Dragon's Dogma level of FPS.
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>>323960480
"Ambush Ahead"
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>>323973245
"Nothing but beasts here
therefore time for hunting"

Nickel for every time I've seen that message in Central Yharnam.
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I beat bloodborne today after playing it for 3 weeks. It was a good game. Nice level design. But I dunno if I'll play it again. The weapons feel too similar to me. I want more long range weapons. The spear is ass and it's more mid range than long range.
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>>323972746
That all you could come up with?
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>>323973226
There was one time when the game slowed down to a crawl for me, a literal slide show. A lot of people have experienced that too, I think it's completely random. Scared the shit out of me though, I thought the ps4 was as good as dead.

As for the fps, It's been awhile since I launched the game and I've been under the impression that they have actually made it stable with the latest patches. Shame if this is not the case.
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>>323973463
>spear is ads
You won't be saying that when you have to fight Nito-in-a-box in NG+++
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>>323973543
BoM users are typically folk of minimal intellect. R1 spam is usually all that their tiny brains can comprehend.
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>>323973463
Have you done the dlc?
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>>323960480
You can expect to be a squid and a kid now
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>tfw I'm stuck on the first boss

I've already died five times. I never had this much trouble with the early bosses in the other Souls games. It's embarassing.
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>>323973648
Yes, I can confirm.

The randomness too. Literally NOTHING was happening, no fights, no fire, no sparkly shit. The game just became a powerpoint presentation.

I never played the pre-patched game though, so I don't know how worse the framerate was, nor the ridiculous 40-60 seconds loading times. I still can't believe it takes 5-20 seconds to load, can't imagine more.
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>>323973924
I grinded like crazy to get through this game. By the time I fought Gehrman I was level 99.
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>>323966370
>Be fighting werewolves
>Brainsucker uses this as an opportunity to run up and grab me
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>>323974001
It's really annoying right now since he always gets a cheap shot off with his gun as soon as I go through the fog. I pretty much have to heal as I soon as i begin.
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>>323973463
The DLC has plenty of longer-reaching weapons (Magic tentacles, Pick, Beast-Cutter, Saw-on-a-stick, literal bow, GIANT BLOOD MACE). The Beast Cutter's R2 is particularly long-range, it has INSANE reach.
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>>323963518
fun fact: at 40 insight you can see amygdalas regardless of game progress
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>>323964748
if you are planning to jump to next gen then yes, but its not worth it if you just want to play bloodborne.
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>>323974173
Yeah, I noticed that, pretty cool. I didn't know it enemies became stronger too though.
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>>323974170
I'll probably get the dlc so I can play the Beast Cutter. That thing looks badass.
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>>323974092
Don't be scaeeaared
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>>323972538
oh shit I just figured out whats going on here. poor bastard
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>>323964381
>has the sickest dash attacks
>has the highest sustained dps against bosses

Nice try chief
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Is there any real reward from Chalice dungeons other than shit to make more Chalice dungeons with?
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>>323974679
Just keep in mind that it feels a little unwieldy when you first get it. You need to learn to naturally incorporate the longer-reaching attacks into your close-range strategy. Don't let the long-reaching R2 become a crutch, because it alone simply won't get the job done.
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>>323973724
Doesn't help that it works. I remember playing with my skill character on Mensis, and once the invader fucked up I started the combo and nigga was stunlocked.

I had the church pick too, but didn't need to use it.
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>>323975265
>"highest sustained dps against bosses"
>he doesn't know about the Whirlgig Saw or the Beast Claws, both of which can be buffed
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>>323960480
Don't play the bait attack style. You can do it, but you'll hate the game. Also make use of the Parry mechanic and learn to play unlocked.
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>>323975369
Copies of weapons you own that have different gem slots (Lost and Uncanny weapons), Bosses not found in main story, best gems to grind for, also theyre required to platinum the game (Queen boss at the end of last depth premade dungeon).

All at the cost of doing aome pretty boring dungeons and some extremely irritating enemies at times (bell spider swarms).
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>>323975369

>echoes out the asshole
>unique bosses
>true final boss of vanilla, yharnam herself
>merchants that sell lost/uncanny versions of weapons
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>>323975985

also far better blood gems
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>I'm about to start Bloodborne. What should I expect?
You're playing a non-GOTY gaem
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>>323975983
>bell spider swarms
>tomb madmen
>backstabbing ghost bitches
>one shotting fireball spamming backhopping shamans
>demonic hounds
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>>323976454
>wow it's fucking nothing
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>>323960480
best lore, atmosphere, and music let down by mandatory dodge spam and low weapon/armor variety

chalice dungeons are boring

the weapon variety is mostly fixed by the DLC but the armor isnt.
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>>323972538

Fuck Gilbert. Did nobody read the Clawmark rune? Does nobody else realize that you don't just find Flamesprayers? He was a fucking HUNTER.

A Hunter who signed a contract just like your character and he goes and bars himself indoors on the night of the hunt. He lies to himself and says that he won't be of any use in the hunt when in reality he's just a coward. He claims that he takes solace in being able to die human and yet you find him cursing the heavens. Then you find him as a Beast from which you pick up a Clawmark rune which implies he willingly turned as a means of saving his pathetic life.

Fuck Gilbert. Piece of shit.
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>>323967565
>>enemies don't drop any kind of armor since enemy variety is minimal to the point where you see first level enemies all the way through to the last areas
>>bosses don't drop any type of "boss soul" so most of the time you get no lore for them
Those two are honestly just saying its not like the old games so I hate it. Nothing wrong with either.
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>>323977113
>cursing the heavens
He begs the gods to help him
>Hunter
So are the mobs you find in the first area, they don't have a contract, just random yharnamites brought into the hunt by tbe church
>flamesprayer
Claimed to never have used it
Every was ill, be came to yharnam looking for a cure, same as you, it was just too late for him.

Now Djura...FUCK DJURA
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>>323977113
Gilbert participated in the burning of Old Yarnham. He contracted his Ashen Blood disease there and eventually turned into one of the same beasts you find in that area.
>>
Did any of the patches up the number of knives, molotovs and other thowing weapons you can carry? Can I be Judeau finally?
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>>323977113
Cant expect an edgelord to understand a decent character going through stages of death/depression.
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>>323977632
Did Gascgoine contract that disease too?
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>>323977520
*Gilbert was ill
*he
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>>323977113
He locked himself up so he would not rape the town like gascoigne did. It didn't work but he tired.
>>323977520
>So are the mobs you find in the first area, they don't have a contract, just random yharnamites brought into the hunt by tbe church
They are not true hunters though they are like vigilantes who are not properly equipped
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>>323977760
Gascoigne just went mad from bloodlust and eventually succumbed to the scourge of beasts. It took the Red Moon to turn Gilbert. He would have died human otherwise.
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>>323977760
He just became a beast. He no longer dreamed right? Of he had, he probably just become blood addled instead.
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>>323977520

Gilbert is a foreigner just like your character. He has received blood, just like your character. He somehow has access to a hunter weapon from the Healing Church workshop while the native hunters are swinging around axes, torches, cleavers and pitchforks.

He's a Hunter just like the player character. The presence of Clawmark implies that he was willingly seduced by beasthood. He's a goddamn shit.
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>>323977739
>being sad magically prevents him from being a piece of shit
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>>323965090
what about mgsv? assuming you skip the bullshit, like cutscenes and missions (which aren't bad on first play through anyway) it's a really fun game to fuck around in, seriously, put over 200 hours in free roam alone
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>>323963939
ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
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>>323977921
>Townspeople going after me
>When the lanky beasts are right fucking next to them
These guys are fags.
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>>323967074
say that after you get raped in the ass by a bloodtinge build using chikage and evelyn
>executioners are pussies
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>Fight between Eileen and Henryk
>Helping out where I can, trying not to hit her
>They trade hits on the last attack and both die at the same time
t-thanks game
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>>323963939
I'LL MASH UP YOUR BRAIN
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>>323964649
the worst is when you get beckoned and the beckoner walks into the boss arena and the intro cutscene for the boss queues up
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>>323978441
should have been less of a useless shitbag t b h
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>>323969548
that's really more a leveling thing than actual game design, by the time i got there i could barely do any damage and i was only ten levels from what i fought mergo at
>grinded like a faggot for the last hunter tho
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>>323960480
Souls.
If you like those, you'll like this
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>>323978441
When does she disappear from outside oden chapel? Im in the forbidden forest and she isn't there so I think I missed the henryk fight
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>>323978746
When you enter the forest, I think.

You'll be fighting her in the Grand Cathedral.
>>
>TFW Bloodborne 2
>TFW it explains Eileens background story
>TFW it is in a foreign country
>TFW you can start with BoM

Who /HYPE/
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>>323978576
She kept walking into all of my axe swings when I hit Henryk, so I tried sticking back.
Shows how well that worked.
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>>323978051
I dont know how you come to the conclusion that hes a shit when he is the first NPC that aids you on more than one occasion. The guy didnt even know you and theres nothing saying he did so as a plot against you.

Sounds like ur a shit m80.
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>>323969809
ludwig's is fucking beast, you can set it up for only thrust's and it works perfect for the rest of the game, only thing is can't really use it on gerhman because you pretty much need visceral attacks if you don't want to just bet him at level cap
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>>323978853
>Spoiler

I wonder if that's better than the alternative...
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>>323978046
And? The men in wheelchairs have flamesprayers, bell faggots too. He claimed never to have used his flamesprayer, and the church doesn't do sick days, that is, if he is cooped up inside it must means he really is no use.
>seduced by beasthood
How?
>>
>>323965090
500 what the fuck no
its closer to 350, my bro got one today
>>
>>323969421
I loved the dramatic change in scenery honestly

it went from a careless stroll in the forest to a maze of snakes
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>>323970130
>80

git gud senpai
>>
>>323967738
just gotta keep going, it gets easier
some advice, dodge through attacks, not away from them
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>>323979036

Go read the Clawmark rune man.

>>Runesmith Caryll describes the "Beast" as a horrific and unwelcome instinct deep within the hearts of men, while "Clawmark" is an alluring invitation to accept this very nature.

We last see him begging the gods for help from his debilitating sickness. We take the Clawmark from him when he's dead. The Great Ones are sympathetic in spirit as we know from the Moon rune. He willingly became a beast.
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>>323972538
let us cleanse these foul streets :'(
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>>323978979
hurray for Crowbro.
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>It plays one of Daddy's favourite songs
>And when Daddy forgets us we play it for him so he remembers
;-;
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>>323980182
>it's also the song they play for Mergo the Great One
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>>323979376
It's $350-$400 (plus tax) depending on what one you get, then Bloodborne at $40. $500 was a bit much, but it's still way too just for this game.
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>>323978979
"From my point of view, the Executioners are evil!"
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>>323980514
>Using the music box during the Mergo's Wet Nurse fight makes baby Mergo laugh
>>
>>323980517
Dont forget the PSN sub to play online! Ten more buckaroos.
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>>323978979
vilebloods did literally nothing wrong
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>>323980769
YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY EVELYN
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>>323981935
It's over vileblood, I have the meme sword
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How do I Beat the dog boss in the chalice dungeon
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>>323982450
>"Gods Laewrence, fear it"
Best scene of the game
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>>323982794
pellets+bolt paper break legs to stagger break face to do damage repeat when he re-armors
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>>323982794
His head is big and unprotected
>>
>>323982951
Thank you senpai
>>
>>323982794
The same way you beat every shitty big monster boss:

1. Never lock on, it sucks.
2. Dodge into and through its attacks. It swings from the direction it moves its head.
3. Always hit ths same leg.
4. Don't get greedy, one or two hits, then roll away like a coward.

Hot dog has his vomit attack which takes forever and lets you get a bunch of free hits. People are going to recommend breaking his face, but I'm guessing you're talking about Defiled hot dog where he'll one shot you if he breathes the wrong way, so I think the leg is safer.
>>
Is the keeper of the old lords canon female?

It has a wtch hat and a dress.
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Worst chalice dungeon?
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>>323983392
Nah, hotdog isn't really all it's cracked up to be and Amygdala is fucking easy. The worst dungeon is whichever one has the Pthumerian Descendant in the room with all the pillars.

Fucking boomerang through the wall faggot.
>>
>>323980769
The Executioners are evil.
>>
>>323983094
Its the normal one, I just suck ;_;

But thanks for a thorough explanation I appreciate it. I'm going to try it right now
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>>323969473

>but its damage isn't holding up with my other weapons and hitting walls all the time is getting annoying.

Don't be using it in whip mode all the goddamn time, nignog.

You obviously use it in cane mode when you either:

1. Are hampered by obstacles.
2. Are dealing with a single easily staggered enemy.
3. Need big damage during an opening in a boss' pattern.
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>>323965273
YO

S
E
F
K
A
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Why can't I beat Orphan? I've been trying for so long now. I can parry his first form easily but I just can't keep up with his second form.
>>
chuch pick is best weapon

fight me vileblood scum
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>>323983094
I backed off and roll away like coward and I killed him first attempt thank you anon ily
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>>323975369
Boredom. Lots of it.

Gems, 1 weapon, and the the best spot to farm gems.

Fuck farming gems.
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>Only thing I felt the game really needed was a chainsaw weapon
>Kept in the dark about the expansion
>mfw I got the whirligig saw in old hunters
>>
>>323984442
Do you have enough arcane to use the Augur of Ebrietas?

Hit Oprhan Kos in the back with it.
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