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So, I finished this game and fucking loved it. It was my first PMD.

I want to play any other, which one should I play?
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You spoiled yourself by playing the best one in the series.
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Play explorers of sky
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>>323954597
Is this actually good? I thought the 3DS one was supposed to be shit. I liked the Regular DS one and the Chocobo one was surprisingly fun so should I give this a go?
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>>323954127
Time/Darkness/Sky
The best.
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>>323954757
Gates to Infinity was the shitty one.
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I've been playing it too. Haven't played a pmd game since the first

I'm having a lot of trouble and lost all my items and money dying to the salamence for the axew quest really early in the game

How do I git gud? I suck man
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>>323954897
This, still an ok story but the pacing of the other games were fucking great, perfect for telling a story
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>>323954597
Why do you faggots keep claiming this baby-tier difficulty, 3 hour campaign game is better than Sky?
Please stop.
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>>323954127
Explorers of Sky
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>>323954597
He didn't play EoS.

PSMD is an excelent second but it got bad the fucked up recluit system its only flaw.
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The other games are hard af, in pmd blue you need to grind forever for the legendary birds, but it's so fucking worth it.
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>>323954848
Are they all the same?
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>>323954127
Play Explorer of Sky, you won't be disappointed
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Is it me, or does anyone else's partner really struggle to keep up level-wise?
Pikachu is at least three levels behind my starter, and really behind most of my recruits.
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>>323954127

Blue Rescue Team or Explorers of Sky.
Blue Rescue Team is more viable to mess around with and level progression is painfully slow.
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>>323955067
>sky harder than super
LOL?
>>323955326
Sky is like the better version of Time/Darkness [extended story, special episodes, etc.]
Blue Rescue Team is the simplest one of the four but it's really good
Gates to Infinity is okay I fucking loved it but the text speed is unbearable and it's way too easy, the hunger mechanic is completely gone
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I've only played Blue Rescue Team and Explorers of Sky and I'd definitely recommend EoS if you liked it
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Explorers of Sky and Rescue Team are both good.

>>323954929
I got passed it by banking all of my shit then dying to salamence and continuing instead of using the last save. The next day has more missions available.
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Play Red Rescue Team. Then play Explorers of Sky.
>>323955067
>3 hour campaign game
Its 25 hours long
>baby-tier difficulty
But its the hardest game in the series. You claim Sky, but in Sky your basic attack is actually useful, you don't lose hunger as quickly, and it doesn't pit you up against overleveled Pokemon really quickly.
>better than Sky
Sky's story pacing is too fast and it doesn't spend enough time on its characters. Its also really retarded at times, because something as big as time stopping in a region should cause everyone to panic. But nope, its just "we'll investigate this. In the mean time, carry on normal operations". Like, what the fuck? Time stopping is some serious panic-level shit.
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>>323955727
How fucking bad at video games are you if you think Super is hard at ALL?
The only time I ever died is in the Poliwrath River with the Heliosk using razor wind. At least Sky had Primal Dialga.
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>>323954929
>>323955986
Salamence is the game's way of telling you to use items
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>>323956079
>Primal Dialga
>hard
LOL?

By the time I even reached Temporal Tower I had a stock of like a billion reviver seeds because I never needed them, so I beat it all in one go
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I'm still trying to get through one of the endgame dungeons with Beheeyem
Shit's rough.
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>>323956207
I don't believe you because anyone that thinks Super had an ounce of challenge is DSP-tier bad at video games
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>>323956719
this is not subtle bait at all
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>>323956079
>At least Sky had Primal Dialga.
Right, the last boss that got two shotted by an Eevee's Dig is the pinnacle of difficulty.
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>>323956079
The only time I died was when I decided to try stealing from Kekleon for fun.
Needless to say I got kek'd. Hard.

What I normally do is carry three revival seeds. Some Oran berries and elixirs, a saving device, escape orb, revive all orb, blast seed, some apples, a guiding wand, and some looplets. About 17 items or so, and then just use whatever I find and bank the loot.
I've struggled a couple of times due to bad typing. (I have Squirtle and Pikachu and they don't cover each other quite as well as other combos. I usually have to rely on the third Pokémon for coverage)
Blast seeds I use on the boss or for duel missions.
Game is only hard when you run out of resources. If you don't prepare, then you prepare to fail.
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Surely you have ALL of these, right anon?
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>>323956091
I think by the time I did the Salamence mission I had unlocked energetic party members and I was using Tyranitar and some randoms to kill him instead of the party members I actually used (Mudkip, Fennekin, Shelmet, Rotom, Sylveon, and Bayleef); don't think many items were required.

With that said, yeah, it's pretty necessary to use items in this game.
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>>323956775
>hurr bait
Sorry you have the gameplay skills of an infant mate
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>>323957425
Red Rescue Team>Blue Rescue Team due to the soundfont
I still need to get Gates. Last one to buy.
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>>323957560
it'd take an infant to think Sky is any harder
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>>323957597
Problem is I don't own a GBA
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>>323957057
I also don't use any buff or debuff moves, except for something like Powerup punch or ancient power.
Just pure damage and type coverage.
The only wand I actively use is the Truant wand for hard fights. (I accidentally used it on Pikachu once and I still won. But it was funny seeing everyone struggling to fight except my main)
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>>323954127
you go to /roguelike general/ and stop playing babbies first franchise whore roguelite
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>>323957801
http://youhaveautism.com/
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>>323957801
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>>323957769
For most MD dungeons I typically require a bunch of debuffs to use for bosses, but I really didn't use that many debuffs in SMD. All of the bosses recover from status conditions in like a turn, and there's typically many enemies in a given fight so reducing defense is pretty pointless. I tutored Fennekin Attract eventually because Tail Whip was useless and I thought I needed a debuff and it was stupidly broken in the first 2 games, but I never ended up actually using it.

With that said, Growl was INCREDIBLY important in many fights thanks to its AoE nature. Considering my Mudkip had basically no damage potential anyway, a lot of the time I was just standing around and hitting Growl so as to allow other people to actually take a hit or two.
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I don't want any spoilers, just want a simple yes or no. Does the game's story basically end when You get your partner back? I just wanna know if theres a point to playing this game anymore aside from just collecting stuff, getting Pokemon to join and ranking up. I'm not too fancy on the gameplay, but would love to keep playing if there's more stuff ahead.
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>>323958529
Yes, that's where the story's usually ended in every game

Blue Rescue Team & Sky had some cute side-stories in the post-game, but they didn't last more than like, 5 lines of dialog
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Ampharos > Wiggltytuff
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>>323956079
>wiping in the story
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I started playing the original, and when my starters passed by their evolving levels and didn't evolve I figured something special was needed to evolve them. Come to research and find out yo have to BEAT THE ENTIRE GAME in order to evolve your guys, in like EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE GAMES!!!

Can't do it. Can play a game that purposefully locks me out from getting that strength boost until after the fame is over, and makes me look like babies the entire game.

Call me when you can evolve normally in these games BEFORE end-game.
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>>323958651
Sky's postgame story shit was EXTENSIVE. That's half of why it's one of /v/'s favorite games.
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>>323958897
>>323957910
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>>323958897
I dont mind it, but I'd appreciate if one of these games incorporated the main characters evolving into the story anyways

some of the starters are boring as fuck to look at
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>>323958908
This.
They had a completely new arc, and even content outside of the main game. Its why I asked if Super did as well.
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>>323958897
Serious case of autism right here.
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>>323959084
someone didn't play Super
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>>323958664
The rest of the guild was completely unmemorable though.

Even before the Sagas from Sky, the Sunflora/Bidoof diaries were something sorely missing from SMD.
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>>323958664
Wigglytuff made me start really liking Wigglytuff.

Ampharos made me start hating Ampharos, one of my favorite Pokemon.
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>>323958897
But that's dumb. It's about you and your weak-ass partner overcoming legendary Pokemon through the power of friendship

>>323959084
Did you play super yet?
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>>323957801
>STOPPING LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
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>>323955475
The level gap between you and your partner is going to get worse.
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>>323959162
>>323959236
neat
I hope youre not lying
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>>323959326
it's not permanent
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>>323958664
Too bad Mawile > everything
>>323958897
But anon, then it wouldn't be as badass beating the crap out of everything you fight and it wouldn't be as admirable to everyone how you keep going through the ranks.
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>>323959326
>>323959374
CHESPIN WARP DIGIVOLVE TO
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>>323959326
They aren't. But its also as >>323959374 says.
Still, it does what you wanted. Multiple times in fact.
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>>323959091
It has a little bit, however to explain would spoil a major plot point.
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So are ranged attacks the absolute king in this game? It doesn't seem like 1-range attacks even come close to comparing.
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>>323959658
Multi-hit attacks are the real absolute kings. Ranged attacks are good though, but most Pokemon only get one or two
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>>323959805
>Pick Chespin
>Get Pin Missile
>Proceed to destroy everything, even that tutorial dungeon where you're supposed to use items to get through
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>>323954127
Reach for the sky!
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I really enjoyed the game but was disappointed in how the connection orb handled the troubles or quests or whatever

But everything other than that was 10/10, definitely contender for best Pokemon mystery dungeon imo
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>walk into big room
>ENEMY YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE YET USED UPROAR
>everyone in party dies
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>>323959236
>>323959385

But power of friendship is so lame. Why can't it be about these baby looking Pokemon getting all strong and epic? And like >>323959084 said, it could be cool to add it into the story, like when it's against a boss that is around those evolution levels, your dudes evolve in order to be strong enough to win. Sheer willpower evolution.

But seriously, Pokemon is kiddy enough without making you play through an entire game as baby Pokemon. They look lame.
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>>323960715
>Silver Wind
>Uproar
>Heat Wave
>Earthquake
>Hydro Pump when your party is in a line

Fuck me with a rake why don't you
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>>323960710
Personally I found the Connection Orb super annoying and aesthetically terrible.

I missed the quest board.
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>>323960965
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>>323960965
Maybe, but it also makes it look all the more insane when people treat these kids as serious threats.
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>Monster house and you're out of pp and seeds/berries

I really want to replay one of these again.
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>>323960965
I dunno, I like not evolving. I love Bulbasaur but hate Venusaur.
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I still haven't gotten this game yet, but I think I'll choose Totodile and Chikorita as my partner. How hard mode would this be?
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>>323960965

It would be pretty nice if one of the games' story revolved around the aspect of "growing up", Super even had a decent setup with the whole school thing. Main issue would be figuring out how 2 stage pokemon would work, assuming people want them to go beyond starter pokemon only. And I can't imagine they'd simply ditch both Pikachu and Riolu as player/partner choices, since popularity alone is the reason they're in there.
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fuck the only one I played was red rescue team like 10 years ago, I remember it being really dark.

do kecleons still break the game?
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>>323962392
yes
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>>323959162
>>323959236
>it only happens three times in the game, once more than halfway through the game and twice at the end in quick succession
>you don't gain any new moves that benefit from any new typings or are evolution-exclusive
>the final boss shows that you didn't need evolutions to beat it anyway

If there's anything this game taught me, it's fuck evolution. Which is funny, since the cover of the game seemed to be all about it.
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>>323961198

But imagine how much more BA a team of Charmander and Totodile would be once they turn into a dragon and mini godzilla.
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>>323962392
>Something's stirring
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Okay I'm like 2 hrs in and I'm not really sure if I want to continue. Is there no equipment? I'm used to more traditional roguelikes
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Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky is fucking greatt.

Blue Rescue team is good too.

I just started Gates to Infinity today so I have no opinion on it yet.
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>>323962870
no equipment
>>323963094
you're in for better characters, unbearably slow text speed [it's okay on your first time seeing the story], and easier gameplay because hunger was removed
Super is the hardest
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>>323962870
There are looplets and emeras but those are pretty obtuse and getting the right boosts you want is RNG reliant.
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>>323963220
>unbearably slow text speed

I fucking hate this.

>easier because hunger was removed
I liked hunger, but I also don;t mind games being easier. I usually play them to relax and avoid getting mad.
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>>323958664
>Chatot shows up in Super and wants to rescue Wigglytuff from a dungeon
>refers to Wigglytuff as a girl

Treehouse fucking phoning it in
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>>323962870
>>323963295
Some looplets have effects and stat boosts from simply holding them, too. But all the good ones are obtained mostly from legendaries.
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>enemy comes out of nowhere and piledrives dipshit you're escorting
>he dies and warps to somewhere else on the floor
>when you find him you realize you have no revive stuff left
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/v/ is weird.

This is like babies first Dungeon Crawler with shitty story and dialogue.

I think it's a 3DS thing when it comes to shit taste.
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Just got to the point where you name your Guide. This game's partner probably has my favorite personality thus far.
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>>323964357
go jerk off to Stone Soup somewhere else
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>>323954127
Is there any benefit to going to more floors after reaching your objective? Like is there a boss or special loot waiting for you at the highest / lowest floor?
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>>323964603
Who? I have a 3DS and all its games, again, you guys are fucking stupid when it comes to 3DS games to the point you have such abysmal taste because you love being treated like 8 year olds.
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>>323954127
Why does this game have poor reviews on sites like Metacritic and IGN. I thought it was fantastic. Were people expecting more from PSMD?
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>>323959278
It's a good thing I gave Pikachu an exp looplet then.
(And have a Sp.atk looplet as a backup plan. Since I can at least use Pikachu as a glass cannon, electric balling everything in sight)
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>>323964790
lol
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>>323964790
>doesn't know what Stone Soup is
>trying to lecture others on their taste in dungeon crawlers
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>>323959658
I dont know, some single tile attacks are pretty strong. Though i'm barely getting into the game.
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>>323964796
site reviewers have always hated this series, even Sky has a shit metacritic score
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>>323961198
This. It's part of the reason i went with Bulbasaur as my starter. Once i found out i could play as him through most of the game.
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>>323964357
>shitty story
Its better than most high class JRPGs story wise and actually tries with its characters, which is more than most games do. Even the music tells a story. YOu know how most final boss music in games is supposed to be epic and hype up the fight? Well in this and other PMD games, its not like that. Its more of a song for your characters.
>>323964796
News sites never like Mystery Dungeon. Ignore them. They're retarded
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Who Chespin/Cyndaquil here?
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>>323954757
Gates is the super-shitty one, general consensus on PMD is that it's either a little better than or a little worse than Sky, which beforehand was considered the pinnacle of the series.
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>>323954127
Do these Mystery Dungeons have replay value?
I'm skeptical to buy this one because I'm not sure if spending 40 dollars is good on something that might give me only one experience/playthrough
It sounds like it's fun though
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This game really made me warm up to Nuzleaf, he's pretty cute.
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>>323966384
Mystery Dungeon games always make me like guys I've never liked before.

Like Grovyle.
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Explorers of Sky's huge amount of content was a really great and memorable experience. Kind of like getting to the postgame in GSC.
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>>323966321
I'm only a few hours in and i can tell i'm loving this more than OR. I just got back into pokemon after stopping at Gen ll and that game didnt interest me much at all. This game though i'm having lots of fun with. Not sure about the replay value yet but i definitely dont regret this purchase unlike i did with OR.
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>>323967569
OR just wasn't very good. Though it was incredible compared to the straight-up-garbage XY.

Recommend trying out White and White 2 at some point if you want to try a standard Pokemon game again. Those games were incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6JV-M8oxE
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>>323968584
Why White over Black? Is there some reason why it's a better pick?
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explorers of time/darkness/sky

try to get sky though
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>>323968584
>recommending worst gen to someone trying to get back into Pokemon
Go away /vp/
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Play all the others, even Gates, which while gameplay is shit the plot's alright. Just don't pay for that one.
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>>323960715
>tfw doing submerged Cave as a Fire starter
Boy I sure do love every pokemon sniping my whole team with all their different ranged water attacks
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>>323961276
Depends what moves they learn. Type isn't super important since you're going to get a story dungeon that fucks your team no matter what.
Some starters have great movesets learning different coverage moves and even some awesome utility like agility. Others get jack all but normal attacks and STAB attacks.
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>>323954127
This one is very childsh
Gates to infinity is far better.
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>>323970548
>can't enjoy stories about children
LOL
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>>323970726
> SCHOOL SCHOOL SCHOOL SCHOOL SCHOOL SCHOOL
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Shit desu
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>>323970726
I mostly just hate how they always tell me to take a break. Like i've literally only been playing for like 5 or 10 mins and the games like "Holy shit you've been playing so fucking long, take a break already god damn"
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>>323971874
http://youhaveautism.com/
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>>323970548
If all you care about is the story.

>>323970726
The funny thing is the story was more enjoyable when it was about the children than when it was about the adults.
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>ended up with cyndaquil
>shit moves
>only ember do demage
>totodile as partner
>ice fang metal claw water gun
>awesome coverage
>AI is fucking retarded

I lost for every fucking enemy due the lack çf moves.
Fuck this shit. Just passed poliwrath river. Things get better? When ill be able to recruot other member??
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>>323970548
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkgaIrPEyPk
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>>323972224
Pretty soon, basically right after your first dungeon finding Ampharos.
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>>323972330
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>>323968898
Not in particular, just the ones I played.

>>323969812
Gen5 is my favorite overall.
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>>323972831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unYfhvvjWF8
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>>323972771
The same mechanics from the older pmd games?
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>Started with Treecko and Pikachu
>Life was hell
I mean I already cleared the first 4 story dungeons but fuck, that was kinda hard
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>>323973215
I need to remix a sad piece one of these days
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>>323973339
Not sure, i havent played any of the older ones.
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About to fight Salamence. My team is Bulbasaur, Chimchar, and Azuril.

Should i bringer a higher leveled fairly type for back up or should this be alright? Azuril doesnt know any fairy type moves yet.
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>>323973815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAEVaAuuoE
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I couldn't feel for the ending because I was still wrapping my head around the stupid twists that tried to one-up Nuzleaf's ultimate keikaku while only providing half-baked explanations.
>btw I'm actually the reincarnation of a legendary, even though reincarnation was never bought up or mentioned as a possibility
>yeah you fought in a war an indeterminately long time ago but here you are again without aging, unless you're a really fucking old guy in a starter's body
>we agreed to have your memory erased when you arrived, so you basically attacked Nuzleaf because he was looking at you funny
>because I accepted that Dark Matter would come back, Dark Matter isn't coming back ever again
>and now I must go so that Dark Matter doesn't come back again

And any interesting scenario for a postgame story was thrown out for 3 dungeons of more Mew. Thank fuck that 100% completion is fun to play.
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>>323975032
They didn't even say that for the last one from what I recall, they just say I have to go there's no other way and leave it at that
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>>323975032
Yeah the game definitely has the weakest story desu.
It retreads parts of previous games in the worst ways while having bad pacing and dumb twists thrown in just for the sake of a twist.
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>>323975032
idk I liked it

but at-least i have a dumb excuse to ship two mons now
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>>323974451
Just spam blast seeds, with 4 it should be enough.
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>>323971874
>he never left school, ran away from home, and went out on an adventure through extremely fucked up non-childish things
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>>323975641
As someone who really didn't like Super's plot by the end, at least those two lines are absolutely perfect together.
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>>323975757
Well i dont want to cheese him unless it's actually so bad i'd be better off. If it's decently challenging i'd like to fight him straight up.
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>>323975910
Yep.
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>>323975346
I actually liked the Voidlands even if it was Future Hidden Land 2.0 because I didn't see it coming at all and was a great jab at death in Pokemon because fainting is really the worst that happens.
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>>323975032
You misunderstood. There was no agreement. You were supposed to have your memories when you arrived, its just that Nuzleaf took them away.
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>>323975930
>cheese him
the game encourages you to use items
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>>323975930
Well, I was lvl 15 when I faced him, and he'd killed me in one strike. It's the game's way of telling you to use items, just use a slumber orb -or a slumber wand- and spam blast seeds, then he joins you, and you can take him on adventures.
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>>323976092
No, there was an agreement. That way you wouldn't somehow remind Mew of it being Mew or some shit.
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>>323976168
Yeah but i've mostly only been using wands and orbs. Blast seeds take out just about everything in one hit.

>>323976279
He's definitely a handful. Even with confusion and sleep he's scary. One shotting everything.
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>>323975930
It's really not cheesing in this game. That's what he's there for, to teach you that you will need to use items and that's it is okay to do so.
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>>323976067
You're the Phox drawfriend, right?
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>>323976465
Yep, he is, on the other hand, when you beat him you get a lvl 50 salamance, so... yeah... that's quite a reward
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>>323976879
mm
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>My dad makes the best food
>It's all fruits and shit you can pick right from a tree
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>>323977050
I was gonna say you should draw Dewott cheering on Braixen in Pokken but that's just an idea
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>>323977387
that's a fruit salad boy
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I liked Sky more.
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>>323977631
im lazy
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What is your favorite emera? Personally I like Intimidator.
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>>323977387
Dude fuck you. At least u have a dad. Be fuckng greatful he cares about u. I hate people like you.
>> hur dur my dad doesnt know how to cook

>> hur dur my dad didnt give me all his money #fuck him
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>>323977770
Well I can't push you.

>>323977898
The one that automatically revives your teammates for free making it so only the leader needs to worry about Reviver Seeds. Or Barrage.
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>>323977898
For utility i like the item detection one, makes navigating and getting loot so much easier without having to go through my apple supply.

For combat i like barrage, especially with multi-hitting moves. I really wish we got to keep the emeras we find. I hate relying on luck when mine's so terrible.
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>>323977898
Barrage, Effect Boost, Comeback, and Better Odds attached to a multi-hit or room-clearing move is absolutely broken. I should know, Frost Rotom is an absolute nightmare with Blizzard and Discharge.

Wand Expert is also very useful since I rely on wands all the time.
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>>323978203
The fuck?

I just looked them up. Is that rare? I legitimately never got that one.
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>>323978420
Only starts to really show up in post-game.
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>>323977967
You must be lost, this isnt facebook.
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>>323977898
Type Bulldozer.
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>>323978504
Yeah, there's a bunch of emeras that only start showing up post-game.
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>>323965550
>>323965313
which is weird since everyone is about roguelikes and shit
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I barely managed to beat the Poliwrath bosses. Items saved my life in that fight. How do I git gud? Fennekin and Snivy combo
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>>323981076
items are how you git gud
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>>323981076
Using items for bosses is absolutely acceptable.
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>>323978891
This. Being a grass starter during the first half of the game where everything's Bug or Flying type was hell, and this thing helped even the odds.
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>>323981183
>>323981208

I'm never going to get used to this. I always powered through the older games with mostly movesets and a few seeds here and there.
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>>323981076
Items are your friend, wands and orbs are super helpful but dont make it easy mode.
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