Don't see a thread up, and Genesis is just one day away.
What events are you watching? Who are you hoping to see perfom well? Who are you hoping to see get upset?
I joined a club at uni. Plays mostly melee. I'm trying to improve, but it's hard to learn fundamental tech when you only play against others who are more experienced and on the offensive. What's the easiest way to find a copy for myself and practice at my dorm?
>$15 usb game cube controller adaptor for pc
>dolphin emulator, free
>assume u already own a copy of melee, download an iso for the emulator
>practice on computer for almost free
>get a cheap gamecube and melee somewhere, probably not too expensive
>play top tiers too, dont bother with shit characters
I'm gonna have to disagree here actually.
Shit characters will force you into non-ideal positions and scenarios and will force you to learn at a higher rate to counter what your opponent is doing.
Low tiers aren't gonna make you worse at the game. And if you have an affinity for them? by all means practice and play them. You might catch a lot of people offguard since they're not used to the matchups at all.
>Don't see a thread up
>Genesis is just one day away
Gee I wonder if it's because Genesis is one day away.
Anyways, hopefully this thread isn't 100% e-celeb tho it can still be interesting sometimes.
Imo it's better to buy a Wii to play melee. If you have the disc you can play it normally or if not you can install homebrew and run the iso on an SD card/usb drive with nintendont
It's actually better to know at least the core of all characters, helps with matchups and the most important thing in Melee: fundamentals. Someone that has only played Fox his/her entire life will still do well with other characters if he actually know the fundamentals, you know, spacing, footsies, option select, all that stuff.
Really easy to do and many ways to do it.
With Nintendon't you can just put the iso in a SD card/Flashdrive and run it from there. Maybe you'll need a custom cMios, you can Google that out.
You can also burn the iso on a disc and launch it from any, well, launcher.
here's the download link:
basically just paste it into the sd card under apps/nintendont, rename the file to boot.dol
after that, create a folder on the root of sd called "games", create another folder (preferably the game name, but it really doesn't matter) then paste the ISO in there, but rename it to "game"
so it should be SD/games/Smash Bros Melee/game.iso (if it's already an ISO you don't need to add the .iso extension)
I might be wrong here but I'm pretty sure some monitors, including but not limited to CRT monitors, are as lagless as playing on a GameCube and CRT TV. Competitive Melee only uses CRT TVs because GameCubes/Wiis are mandatory (or else Nintendo would flip their shit over Dolphin) and they don't play nice with modern displays, no matter how lagless the display is. It creates input lag that isn't inherent to the display itself. Mango, Leffen, etc. practice and netplay on Dolphin, the onus is just on the player to have the proper hardware. Definitely don't do it if you're using some shitty Dell LCD though.
it's not really an issue using dolphin on an HDTV, the reason there's input lag if you go from a wii/GC to an hdtv the game has to upscale the resolution, which takes a few milliseconds. A computer running dolphin through HDMI is running the resolution it's natively supported by, so there's no upscaling to be done
>tfw you can't even SH with Fox
Fuck I feel so bad at this game.
Even assuming he has a good enough monitor to match crt, he's still gonna get lag from the controller converter and likely the emulator. It won't be a waste of time to practice like this, but its gonna take some time to adjust to crt everytime you switch.
He's had an interesting year
>embarasses the shit out of old smash players
>starts rolling over the other gods in tournaments
>firmly placing in the top 3
>then gets 6-0'd by M2K
>kek'd by Obama
>kek'd by the Duck
It kind of sucks that this TSM sponsorship is making Leffen miss a shitload of tourneys. I really thought they would have sorted out this visa shit by now.
But at least mango is going, I heard he almost decided not to go because his dumpster girlfriend is in jail
>mfw Mango needs to win G3 to have enough to bail her out
> Mango washed out and not mentally on point because gf on jail
> M2K still dont go to the doctor
> PPMD recovering from his sickness
> Leffen deported
I am afraid is gonna be a Hbox vs Armada grand finals once again.
Hopefully some of the gatekeepers rise up. Plup looks sharp. And axe or westballz can do it if the planets align.
>her "best friend" (amateur porn star that briefly dated PPMD apparently?) was spending the week at their house or some shit
>she and the friend go out to a bar for drinks
>at some point Mango's girlfriend flips her shit, accuses her friend of trying to fuck Mango, and tries to stab her
>in jail, bail set at fifty thousand dollarydoos
>friends with pornstair Ryan Riesley
>pornstar friendo has a gig in Norcal
>Lauren (Mang0s gf) invites her to chill at a bar
>get drunk af and lauren falsely accuses Ryan for fucking mango
>Ryan is confused and drunk and she denies it
>Lauren punches her in the face and tries to fight her
>Lauren goes to jail on aggravated assault and has a $50,000 bail
Mango has to win G3, for his son, for his gf, for himself, for America
not much to it really. At the original Genesis, Scar got 5th or 6th depending on who you ask (getting 6th is mathematically impossible in a double elimination tourney, but apparently he played an extra set with mew2king where he lost)
It's kind of interesting because he got that high up, not being a super top player, and also playing falcon. It's just a stupid overused meme really though
Sometimes a controller change can help. I had a controller that I could barely short hop half the time even when focusing on it.
I got a new one the other day and I can SHDL pretty consistently now
Is it from the new line? The ones Nintendo released for Sm4sh? Mines are getting quite old, the dead zones in my old ones are practically non existent and I only play with the black smash ball controller in the mean time.
And whoopdeeloop, I'm on South America and can only get worse controllers from a local fair or something. I wonder If replacing the parts between the new and old controllers can get me somewhere.
I got a second hand one from a friend who doesn't use it. I do have one of the new smash ball ones, it's not bad, but even the same model can have little differences, when you're trying to do short hops with 2 frame windows sometimes a button that's a little "softer" is easier to do it more consistently
It's all personal preference though, so it's really hard to say
It's not really worth diving too deep into a low tier though. If you're actually serious about playing, eventually you're going to want to switch to a top tier.
I think playing a low tier might develop some bad habits, and set you back in the learning curve for top tier characters. Nothing you learn with DK is going to help your Marth
>> M2K still dont go to the doctor
M2K said awhile ago that his hands were feeling better since he hadn't been playing that much Melee. Just watching anime and playing Smash 4 mostly.
He has a not so good bracket though. He plays Wobbles early, then PPMD and then Armada. He's going to have to be super on point.
Take some time in training and see just how little you have to tilt the stick to get a tilt going.
The GC controller has a very tight deadzone, just resting your thumb on the stick with a little bit of pressure is enough to register a direction input, even if it doesn't quite feel like it
Buy a wii at pawn shop, get a $5 CRT at good will, and get one of those new cheap controllers.
>tfw none of the pawn shops/good wills around me accept crt's anymore because "they don't sell and take up space"
>tfw my friend's mom has a literal garage full of CRTs
>tfw I can take whichever I want, whenever I want
It doesn't affect gameplay at all. I use it and it works just fine. the only difference is some elements that should be off screen are sometime shown (training mode menu is peeking out from the left always on widescreen mode) but in regular Melee VS mode it's functionally identical
Fuck is that not good?
>Using always the same option for techs, combos and edgeguards.
Luckily I play Fox so I think I have good mix ups
So who do you guys main? I play luigi but kinda want to switch. I love playing him and would still keep him as a pocket but I feel pretty limited with him. What sucks is I have about a year and half worth of experience with him and everyone else feels so unnatural to me.
shield grabbing isn't bad, it's just that people have been working on countering sheildgrabbing basically since the game came out.
There's lots of attacks that are safe on shield, and will leave the attacker too far away to get grabbed. If you try to grab someone every time your shield gets hit, you're going to get punished.
Yep, shield grabs are a horrible option, but it destroys people that aren't good.
The thing is, people should know how to space their attacks, and also most attack push your shield back enough to not get grabbed anyway, or get past you and grabbing is not good.
There are also better options OoS, like Wavedash or Nair. As Fox you sure have 100 things you could do instead of shield grab.
Who /peach/ here? Dsmash that reply button.
I recently starting using uair a lot more, and my combo game on fast fallers is mad insane.
Marthfriends know that feeling of keeping the space animal in the air until it dies. It's glorious.
I am very mad. I drove all the way to CSU to play in a tournament, get stuck in traffic and lost against this retarded ass sheik. Down threw tech chase and wouldn't stop shino stalling
I really cannot think straight right now.
I offered to MM him for more than $20. Nope.
I thought I would have made it out of pools if I knew how to fucking buffer roll. But they didn't even give me the frames to do it. Bullshit, just straight up bullshit.
Probably will never go to a tournament that gay ass sheiks enter ever again. This definitely ruined my day.
yeah, also the weak hit of back air is insanely useful for comboing. But the side-hit of up-air is even better.
I'm also trying to learn how to edgeguard properly against Fox. Always get hit by the Firefox even when I connect a fair or nair
Is your adapter pic related?
Here's the guide for anyone who wants to play Melee on Dolphin emulator with less lag than even the GameCube:
I always liked the idea of playing Peach, but I can't for the life of me get used to characters with DJC. I have a pretty good Falco but if you saw me play Peach you would swear I just picked up the game
The correct spacing and timing is tricky, it's what makes Fox recovery so good.
Marth's disjoint makes edge-guarding easier for him, but once you have it down the moment he's offstage he's DEAD.
I'm actually gay, but I'm a top.
Her DJC is the hardest one to use because of its weird properties like Prince pivots, and DJC No impact landing. It makes platform tech-chasing a blast though since you have +3 frames over anybody.
>DI like Melee
>Vector like Sm4sh
>When you SDI the Fox uair that would have won him the game
Basically me right now but I'm focusing on Melee
Just fuck my shit up family
Frankly DI is what fucks me up the most of switching between games.
Like I play a super neutral heavy character (Ike) so I take it slow, but my reflexes to DI are fined tuned for Melee so I can't never vector properly at all.
Thats all I got. West can still sandbag against a modest player and lose. A good fox can beat axe. Maybe shroomed, oddly enough he never performs in NW regionals as he does at nationals, so im curious to see what trend itll be this time. I know there's a bracket out, but does someone know if kels is going? It breaks my soul that he only travels around IL and to big house.
Fuck forgot silentwolf. Replace ppmd with him
>live in Europe
>want to see muh niggas Armada and Ice wreck shit
>ayy lmao west coast USA lol
>Top 8 starts at 3:30 in the middle of the night
>Top 64 on saturday starts at 3:00 as well
But at least I can watch Smash 4 at 0:00 :^)
I play Kirby with scrubs just to fuck around with them.
A lot of them don't even remember the suicide backthrows so they don't mash out.
Also copying a scrubby Falco's laser and watching him struggle with short hop triple laser is adorable.
why be a bird when you can be a warrior
funny you would say, I actually used to main Ganondorf before switching to Falcon and then to Falco/Marth
Ganondorf is still tons of funs for Project M, but I can't go back to him in Melee, not after having a good taste of Falco and Marth
>he doesn't main a floaty
what's your excuse, /v/?
>short hop flame choke
>he techs it behind
>mfw I knew he would and I reverse my uptilt
That and catching a scrubby recovery with the sword taunt, no better feeling
floaties are for sadists.
Seriously. Peach, Jiggs, ICs and Samus are all for monsters who like rape and torture before murdering and eating you.
>mfw I literally play all those characters, IC and Samus being mediocre at them
Once you learn to deal with lasers Falco is not that big of an issue.
Sheik is just braindead. If you play against a Sheik player please remember that you're up against an actual autist. Do not bully him.
sheik is the reason mid tier characters will never be viable
meanwhile falco is just so fucking annoying
if you're playing falcon, there is nothing you can do to adapt. i hate being forced to play fox
a-am I the only Doc bro here?
Seriously though, why are there no Doc mains? He is generally considered to be the best character aside from the 8 high/top-tiers, so why is he not more popular?
Even meme characters like Ganondorf and Luigi get more love.
1. NTSC Fox
2. NTSC Sheik
5. PAL Sheik
Because he's not good. Literally 1 good Doc main in the history of Melee, and he dropped him. Doc gets no results and has no players. Not even a single Doc in the top 100 players. I have no idea why people think he's good.
Sheik is a braindead character to learn. Has decent survivality, a bullshit tech-chase, the best sheild in the game, great speed, and generally succeeds tremendously at low-level play. No character i'd want out of the game, but sheik is by far the most bullshit when you're starting to get good.
- High damage output
- Good combo game
- Chaingrab on fast-fallers
- Kills early/has plethora of killmoves
- Many mixups
- Strong crouch-cancel game
- Has a cape to gimp people and reflect
In addition he is not light, and also has a decent speed.
Does his shit recovery really fuck thát much up?
His neutral pretty much sucks in addition to that. He can pill and hope the opponent fucks up. Also his combo game isn't very impressive, most of it can be DI'd out of very easily, it's hard to get 2 hits unless the opponent is a nice guy and DI's in at all times or gets fucked by a raw fair. His kill power is alright, it's just harder to land anything except fair.
What mixups are you talking about though?
He just has shit mobility, that's why Shroomed dropped him. Just watch a Mario move around platforme vs. a Doc and its night and day.
That's why Luigi is so good, he can be anywhere at any time.
I main Pika, secondary Shiek. I need work on my Pika though, I struggle with getting hits off on foxes and Marths. Also thinking of picking up Mario, seems really fun.
Was advised to pick up Fox, but idk if I wanna
Oh boy I sure can't wait for the hype matches of Fox vs Fox, Fox vs falco, Fox vs Marth, Fox vs jigglypuff and Fox vs sheik. I only saw it 800 times last year, I'm getting withdrawl symptoms from not seeing shine into upsmash every day
>implying fox v falco and fox v marth arent generally hype af
have you even seen a fox v falco match? laser spam is not going to get you very far there.
You post like the only thing you've heard about Melee is the stupid "fox only no items final destination" meme
Mangos girfriend deleted her twitter account.
Anyone know what happend?
She might be a stupid fat feminist bitch but that didn't stop me from fantasizing perverted things.
>He doesn't know
Someone tell him
when was this? tekk has improved a lot since HEIR, i think you're sleeping on him.
he has a great chance to make top 8, just like s0ft did at Apex 2014. People are sleeping (no pun-intended) on the power of puff
Those aren't hips my friend, but love handles.
She literally is fat american dwarf, and even with all that fat she still has no boobs. Add in the fake blonde hair and the picture is complete.
Tekk has to prove he can consistently beat players who make top 8 regularily (not duck and overtriforce). Just saying "i'm sure he can do it" doesn't mean anything, results are all that matters
>when you shine someone in the few vulnerable frames at the end of their firefox
Why are ganon players the absolute worst melee players? I've met some cool ones but most honestly are annoying assholes who play for "hype" or "disrespect". Some are cool guys but seeing cringy shit like bizarro is embarrassing.
It hasn't been a day and theres already an article on ESPN about Melee
Written by Prog no less
either way, there's gonna be another video game board since he crated the video game sub section on the main page
my guess is its either e-sports or 'anime games' (?)
i don't mind posting here, but it would be cool being in the same space as DOTA and CSGO affairs
/vg/ is awful son, if anyone posts there you deserve to burn in hell.
/e-sports/ would be slow like /asp/ or something. just be a good place for resources and twitch streams would be more legitimized.
just read 5 posts upthread, it's nothing but tripfag circlejerks. You have 10% of the thread(s) dedicated to the game, 90% to unrelated waifu jerks, memes, namefag callouts, etc. The only useful thing is the information in the OP.
has anyone been able to find a mugshot of Lauren?
this is the first time I've visited one of these threads
what the fuck? instead of discussing the game all you guys are talking about is your favorite players and the matchups you want to see like it's fucking anime or pro wrestling. you've literally found something more autistic than youtuber cocksucking
at least sm4sh threads people discussing the game and playing each other
>playing in tourney
>1-1 last stock situation with me as falco and my opponent as fox on fod
>knock him offstage
>he's down below the stage and i decide to dair him for the kill
>accidentally fast fall and lose my stock before he dies
/utg/ is just "sex with waifu"
/nintyg/ is shillers on /v/
and if you don't think /ssb/ loves the smell of their own farts and gobble the cum of anyone in there then it's probably because you do too.
Thanks for letting us know you didn't read the thread, there's plenty of discussion about characters and gameplay, but Esports is a big part of the community and with Esports comes top players. Tr4sh players are usually divided by For Glory shitposters/Tr4sh /v/eekend fags and Esports as well.
no and no
this has been disproved many times already. Dolphin in full screen mode/official nintendo adapter/mayflash 4 ports adapter have absolutely zero lag (the old 2 ports has some). Stop spewing false informations
Am i crazy for playing with a wii u pro controller? I only play on netplay cause no scene in my entire country and i prefer using one controller for everything. I'm doing fine with it and if i ever will attend to a tourney (unlikely) i can simply buy a gcn and get used to it a couple weeks before.
Fact. Mobility is my favorite aspect of Melee. It's like an anti-stress thing for me to just chill out and wavedash for hours.
It's because 99% of the people on here don't actually play. It's always been this way.
Fuck I hate puff and the matchup, but I love it so much.
I'm a falco main and she teaches me patience whenever I fucking play against a puff player.
At my local, two puff players had a 1 penny money match, Bo5. It took 30 minutes over a penny.
where are the fox players?
My new favorite thing is to try a shine turnaround backair edgeguard, it looks so sick.
Is Salty Suite tomorrow or Saturday?
>tfw no Leffu at Genesis
one thing i'm excited about is there's a good chance an ICs makes the top 8 this year.
Wobbles is looking very solid and Nintendude always has a fringe shot dude to his wobble-heavy approach.
>not a smashfag
>dont follow the scene or play the games
>only care if leffen is playing in top 8 and about to win because he talks shit about the other players
>he's not even attending whatever the fuck genesis is
what the fuck man
I want my qt autistic husbando M2K to win. I want my favorite BBC The Moon to get far since his Marth is just so aesthetically pleasing to watch.
But it doesn't matter what I want, because the tournament will basically be Armada beating everyone in a Fox ditto and it'll be boring to watch.
>tfw shine into shine at like 40 and kill off the top
>mfw Nintendudes set with Mango at The Bighouse
How do you guys feel about a furry convention being at the exact same timeslot and place as this Smash event. I'm pretty sure if you were to go to that convention center now there would be nothing but degenerates in fursuits. Then I'm sure it'll smell like unhygenic autists AND sweaty fursuits when the Smash stuff starts tomorrow.
>top shit at a high school level
>me and my 3 best friends could win any bracket tournament
>played with my universitys local scene and didnt win a SINGLE match in my entire time there
>so bad that people ask if I'm a Smash 4 player
I've never touched it
This is pure suffering.
They have no physical disadvantage that prevents them from competing with men. If less than 1% of your playerbase is female, then of course you won't have any good female players because they're a tiny sliver on the amazing player roulette. Having separate male and female leagues wouldn't do anything other than make the latter look bad, especially in something like Melee since Admiral would just fuck everyone up for free, including the trannies because Melee doesn't have a Ricki Ortiz.
>He is generally considered to be the best character aside from the 8 high/top-tiers
Except for Pikachu and Samus
The Doc is shit tier meme needs to die though, Ive seen an alarming amount of retards put him below Yoshi and Ganon
Hey guys make sure to tune in and watch the scar and toph show whenever you can. These guys are hilarious and give great incite into melee, they're gems that should be admired for talking over the game about old stories they think are funny.
WATCH THE SCAR AND TOPH SHOW
>2 WHOLE fucking frames? Youre fucking stupid to assume that wouldnt throw my game off.
Maybe you should know how much 2 milliseconds (it's in the word) actually is before spouting shit?
>Melee was my favorite game when I was younger
>About three years ago, start watching tournaments
>Eventually start following the scene pretty heavily
>get a new copy of Melee about six months ago
> still can't even reliably wavedash
How the fuck do I do it, /v/? My hands feel like they're about to fall off after practicing any kind of tech skill for more than ten minutes.
Gettin gud doesn't happen over night esp if your hands are not used to working like that best advice is to practice/play at least 1 hour every day if you really want to get better. You WILL notice improvement after a month or two or you're just ass.
how do I drop through platforms consistently
how do I keep myself from being panicked, because my hands get twitchy and it feels like there's a disconnect between what I want to do and what I end up doing
Being a low tier hero sucks. Your option selects are complete ass and med tiers have painful neutral games to navigate even at med level play. You basically have to pray some scrubby ass fox doesn't know the matchup because if they do they make your life a living hell unless you outplay the fuck outta them.
Don't worry about learning to wavedash until you know how useful it is. But really it's not hard at all to learn. Just practice jumping and then airdodging down and to the side right after. Then do it faster.