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Melee Thread: Genesis 3 Ultimate Collectors Edition

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Don't see a thread up, and Genesis is just one day away.

What events are you watching? Who are you hoping to see perfom well? Who are you hoping to see get upset?
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I joined a club at uni. Plays mostly melee. I'm trying to improve, but it's hard to learn fundamental tech when you only play against others who are more experienced and on the offensive. What's the easiest way to find a copy for myself and practice at my dorm?
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>>323947012

>$15 usb game cube controller adaptor for pc
>dolphin emulator, free
>assume u already own a copy of melee, download an iso for the emulator
>practice on computer for almost free
>get a cheap gamecube and melee somewhere, probably not too expensive
>practice
>play top tiers too, dont bother with shit characters
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>>323947308
I had one of those 15 dollar adaptors, but someone broke it. WiiU one works on pc tight? How much are they?
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>>323947417
*works on pc, right?
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>>323947308
I'm gonna have to disagree here actually.
Shit characters will force you into non-ideal positions and scenarios and will force you to learn at a higher rate to counter what your opponent is doing.

Low tiers aren't gonna make you worse at the game. And if you have an affinity for them? by all means practice and play them. You might catch a lot of people offguard since they're not used to the matchups at all.
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>>323946491
>Don't see a thread up
>Genesis is just one day away
Gee I wonder if it's because Genesis is one day away.

Anyways, hopefully this thread isn't 100% e-celeb tho it can still be interesting sometimes.
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>>323947308
Imo it's better to buy a Wii to play melee. If you have the disc you can play it normally or if not you can install homebrew and run the iso on an SD card/usb drive with nintendont
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>>323947903
Not trying to get spoonfed, but can you link me to somewhere That teaches me to run the iso? I already have homebrew.
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>>323947672
This.

It's actually better to know at least the core of all characters, helps with matchups and the most important thing in Melee: fundamentals. Someone that has only played Fox his/her entire life will still do well with other characters if he actually know the fundamentals, you know, spacing, footsies, option select, all that stuff.
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>>323948019
Really easy to do and many ways to do it.

With Nintendon't you can just put the iso in a SD card/Flashdrive and run it from there. Maybe you'll need a custom cMios, you can Google that out.

You can also burn the iso on a disc and launch it from any, well, launcher.
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I really hope abate can place top 8 again
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>>323948019
Open wide

here's the download link:
https://code.google.com/p/nintendon-t/
basically just paste it into the sd card under apps/nintendont, rename the file to boot.dol

after that, create a folder on the root of sd called "games", create another folder (preferably the game name, but it really doesn't matter) then paste the ISO in there, but rename it to "game"

so it should be SD/games/Smash Bros Melee/game.iso (if it's already an ISO you don't need to add the .iso extension)
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>>323947308
>>get a cheap gamecube and melee somewhere, probably not too expensive

>cheap
>probably not too expensive

huehue
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#FreeLeffen
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>>323947308
Don't do this. Practicing on Dolphin will get you used to input lag. If you're going to play in a competitive setting you would only practice on CRT.
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WHO /WOBBLE/ HERE
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>>323948492
That won't happen again
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>>323949342
Yeah I mean I know it won't. I just like to see my fellow weegee mains do well
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>>323949305
nintendude has a nice jersey

maybe someday hugs will also have one ;_;
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>>323948875
>YFW a gamecube costs half as much as a melee disc
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>>323949119
I might be wrong here but I'm pretty sure some monitors, including but not limited to CRT monitors, are as lagless as playing on a GameCube and CRT TV. Competitive Melee only uses CRT TVs because GameCubes/Wiis are mandatory (or else Nintendo would flip their shit over Dolphin) and they don't play nice with modern displays, no matter how lagless the display is. It creates input lag that isn't inherent to the display itself. Mango, Leffen, etc. practice and netplay on Dolphin, the onus is just on the player to have the proper hardware. Definitely don't do it if you're using some shitty Dell LCD though.
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>>323949119
it's not really an issue using dolphin on an HDTV, the reason there's input lag if you go from a wii/GC to an hdtv the game has to upscale the resolution, which takes a few milliseconds. A computer running dolphin through HDMI is running the resolution it's natively supported by, so there's no upscaling to be done
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>tfw you can't even SH with Fox

Fuck I feel so bad at this game.
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>>323950102
nair shining consistently with fox is probably the hardest thing to do, while staying safe
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ayyy
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>>323950031
>>323950023
Even assuming he has a good enough monitor to match crt, he's still gonna get lag from the controller converter and likely the emulator. It won't be a waste of time to practice like this, but its gonna take some time to adjust to crt everytime you switch.
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>>323950441
He's had an interesting year

>embarasses the shit out of old smash players
>starts rolling over the other gods in tournaments
>firmly placing in the top 3
>then gets 6-0'd by M2K
>kek'd by Obama
>kek'd by the Duck
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>>323950441
It kind of sucks that this TSM sponsorship is making Leffen miss a shitload of tourneys. I really thought they would have sorted out this visa shit by now.

But at least mango is going, I heard he almost decided not to go because his dumpster girlfriend is in jail
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>>323950962
>mfw Mango needs to win G3 to have enough to bail her out
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>>323950962
Lmaoo what happened to his girlfriend?
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>>323951347
aggravated assault with a knife
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> Mango washed out and not mentally on point because gf on jail
> M2K still dont go to the doctor
> PPMD recovering from his sickness
> Leffen deported

I am afraid is gonna be a Hbox vs Armada grand finals once again.

Hopefully some of the gatekeepers rise up. Plup looks sharp. And axe or westballz can do it if the planets align.
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>>323951347
>her "best friend" (amateur porn star that briefly dated PPMD apparently?) was spending the week at their house or some shit
>she and the friend go out to a bar for drinks
>at some point Mango's girlfriend flips her shit, accuses her friend of trying to fuck Mango, and tries to stab her
>in jail, bail set at fifty thousand dollarydoos
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mango plzzzzzzz
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>>323951430
Hahaha like actually?
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>>323951347
>friends with pornstair Ryan Riesley
>pornstar friendo has a gig in Norcal
>Lauren (Mang0s gf) invites her to chill at a bar
>get drunk af and lauren falsely accuses Ryan for fucking mango
>Ryan is confused and drunk and she denies it
>Lauren punches her in the face and tries to fight her
>Lauren goes to jail on aggravated assault and has a $50,000 bail
Mango has to win G3, for his son, for his gf, for himself, for America
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>>323951842
holy shit
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>>323951842
>Mango has to win G3, for his son, for his gf, for himself, for America
plot for a rocky movie, right there
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Any bets on who's going to win the prestigious "BobbyScar 5th/6th at genesis award"?
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>>323953254
I hear about it a lot and don't understand this joke, please spoonfeed me
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>>323953621
Bobby scar the commentator peak of his smash career was getting 5th at genesis so he made it a meme to always spout that shit. no matter the occasion. so it's a meme
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>>323953621
not much to it really. At the original Genesis, Scar got 5th or 6th depending on who you ask (getting 6th is mathematically impossible in a double elimination tourney, but apparently he played an extra set with mew2king where he lost)

It's kind of interesting because he got that high up, not being a super top player, and also playing falcon. It's just a stupid overused meme really though
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>>323954021
not he isnt sneak his ass in like we sneak in the mexicans
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>>323954287
my bad it was something i saw in twitch chat, im an idiot for believing it
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>>323954517
1.Armada
2.Westballz
3.Mango
4.Hbox
5.Bobby Scar
6.Bobby Scar
7.PPMD
8.Plup
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>>323954792
1. Armada
2. The Swedish Sniper
3. Adam Lindgren
4. Aniolas's brother
5. The BOAT
6. The Only Non-Gay Peach
7. Leffen's Arch Nemesis
8. The real father of Joseph Marquez Jr.
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>>323946491
Here's hoping Hungrybox doesn't make it out of pools
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>>323950102
Sometimes a controller change can help. I had a controller that I could barely short hop half the time even when focusing on it.

I got a new one the other day and I can SHDL pretty consistently now
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>>323950102
It's only a two frame window so don't get too discouraged.

I mean, yes. you're bad.

But so is everyone else.
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>>323955751
Is it from the new line? The ones Nintendo released for Sm4sh? Mines are getting quite old, the dead zones in my old ones are practically non existent and I only play with the black smash ball controller in the mean time.

And whoopdeeloop, I'm on South America and can only get worse controllers from a local fair or something. I wonder If replacing the parts between the new and old controllers can get me somewhere.
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>>323952868
Mang0 IS rocky
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>>323956159
I got a second hand one from a friend who doesn't use it. I do have one of the new smash ball ones, it's not bad, but even the same model can have little differences, when you're trying to do short hops with 2 frame windows sometimes a button that's a little "softer" is easier to do it more consistently

It's all personal preference though, so it's really hard to say
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>>323947672
It's not really worth diving too deep into a low tier though. If you're actually serious about playing, eventually you're going to want to switch to a top tier.

I think playing a low tier might develop some bad habits, and set you back in the learning curve for top tier characters. Nothing you learn with DK is going to help your Marth
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>>323950731
I'm not sure about mayflash, but the official GC adapter has no input lag if I remember correctly since Dolphin natively supports it. Hbox himself said this awhile ago too.
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Any tips for doing tilts efficiently? I got most thing right, but I still struggle with things like f-tilt with Fox to set up gimps and such.
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>>323951443
>> M2K still dont go to the doctor
M2K said awhile ago that his hands were feeling better since he hadn't been playing that much Melee. Just watching anime and playing Smash 4 mostly.

He has a not so good bracket though. He plays Wobbles early, then PPMD and then Armada. He's going to have to be super on point.
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>>323958369
Take some time in training and see just how little you have to tilt the stick to get a tilt going.

The GC controller has a very tight deadzone, just resting your thumb on the stick with a little bit of pressure is enough to register a direction input, even if it doesn't quite feel like it
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>>323947308
Buy a wii at pawn shop, get a $5 CRT at good will, and get one of those new cheap controllers.
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lets get a tournament going right after Genesis.
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>>323958369
practice practice practice!

focus on what it feels like in your fingers when you get it right, then chase that feeling.
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>>323959516
>tfw none of the pawn shops/good wills around me accept crt's anymore because "they don't sell and take up space"
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>>323960607
my whole family did a big CRT purge not 2 months before I got into playing Melee heavily, I was so chapped
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>>323960607
>tfw my friend's mom has a literal garage full of CRTs
>tfw I can take whichever I want, whenever I want
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>>323961385
Send one over here mate
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>>323947417
Get a Mayflash adapter. They are cheaper, but still well made and have a pc mode.
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Team oxy posted bizz vs Mike haze The mans insane to say the least.

I just dont understand why people say ganons a worse falcon. I liken him to a slower sheik without needles
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What are some bad habits a new player should get rid of?
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So, does 20XX and 20XXTE Widescreen option affects gameplay in any way? My friends always say it feels fucking weird.
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>>323962002
>Rolls
>Shield grabbing
>Spamming jump after getting hit
>Using always the same option for techs, combos and edgeguards.
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>>323946491
hungrybox said he changed the meta yet he was playing on the pal version which is better for puff. Is this the only reason he won, or did he actually figure something out
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>>323961692
I don't know about this one, I was watching Ken stream and he was complaining about his and switched to the wiiu one and said it actually like felt like melee on the gamecube
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>>323962009
It doesn't affect gameplay at all. I use it and it works just fine. the only difference is some elements that should be off screen are sometime shown (training mode menu is peeking out from the left always on widescreen mode) but in regular Melee VS mode it's functionally identical
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Can't wait till my fantasy team wins me a sick controller.
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>>323962198
>Shield grabbing
Fuck is that not good?
>Using always the same option for techs, combos and edgeguards.
Luckily I play Fox so I think I have good mix ups
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So who do you guys main? I play luigi but kinda want to switch. I love playing him and would still keep him as a pocket but I feel pretty limited with him. What sucks is I have about a year and half worth of experience with him and everyone else feels so unnatural to me.
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>>323962410
shield grabbing isn't bad, it's just that people have been working on countering sheildgrabbing basically since the game came out.

There's lots of attacks that are safe on shield, and will leave the attacker too far away to get grabbed. If you try to grab someone every time your shield gets hit, you're going to get punished.
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>>323962410
Shieldgrabbing is bad, you play fucking Fox so you have like 20000000 options out of shield.
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>>323961692
You actually want it always in Wii U mode for lagless play

>>323962264
Did he have it in Wii U mode?
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>>323962410
Yep, shield grabs are a horrible option, but it destroys people that aren't good.

The thing is, people should know how to space their attacks, and also most attack push your shield back enough to not get grabbed anyway, or get past you and grabbing is not good.

There are also better options OoS, like Wavedash or Nair. As Fox you sure have 100 things you could do instead of shield grab.
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>>323963126
how do I set up the mayflash with Wii U setting? Everytime I tried it never worked, only with PC.
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Who /peach/ here? Dsmash that reply button.
I recently starting using uair a lot more, and my combo game on fast fallers is mad insane.
Marthfriends know that feeling of keeping the space animal in the air until it dies. It's glorious.
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I am very mad. I drove all the way to CSU to play in a tournament, get stuck in traffic and lost against this retarded ass sheik. Down threw tech chase and wouldn't stop shino stalling
I really cannot think straight right now.
I offered to MM him for more than $20. Nope.
I thought I would have made it out of pools if I knew how to fucking buffer roll. But they didn't even give me the frames to do it. Bullshit, just straight up bullshit.
Probably will never go to a tournament that gay ass sheiks enter ever again. This definitely ruined my day.
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>>323963385
yeah, also the weak hit of back air is insanely useful for comboing. But the side-hit of up-air is even better.

I'm also trying to learn how to edgeguard properly against Fox. Always get hit by the Firefox even when I connect a fair or nair
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>>323963385
How does it to suck literal dicks?
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>>323963327
Is your adapter pic related?

Here's the guide for anyone who wants to play Melee on Dolphin emulator with less lag than even the GameCube:
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2v55u8/melee_hd_important_new_update_272014/
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>>323963385
I always liked the idea of playing Peach, but I can't for the life of me get used to characters with DJC. I have a pretty good Falco but if you saw me play Peach you would swear I just picked up the game
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>>323963646
Aerial down throw turnip into fc aerial is amazing. Super satisfying and optimal. If you can't make that just do the standard dair nair.
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>>323963646
The correct spacing and timing is tricky, it's what makes Fox recovery so good.
Marth's disjoint makes edge-guarding easier for him, but once you have it down the moment he's offstage he's DEAD.

>>323963778
I'm actually gay, but I'm a top.

>>323963798
Her DJC is the hardest one to use because of its weird properties like Prince pivots, and DJC No impact landing. It makes platform tech-chasing a blast though since you have +3 frames over anybody.
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>>323963778
how does it feel*
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>>323963781
Shit, I forgot the pic.
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>>323964006
>I'm actually gay
Everytime
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>>323963549
This pasta is stiff, microwave it a little so it's not that CHAINGRABBED
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>Play Sm4sh
>DI like Melee
>Play Melee
>Vector like Sm4sh
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>When you SDI the Fox uair that would have won him the game
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>>323964489
Basically me right now but I'm focusing on Melee
Just fuck my shit up family
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>>323964489
Frankly DI is what fucks me up the most of switching between games.
Like I play a super neutral heavy character (Ike) so I take it slow, but my reflexes to DI are fined tuned for Melee so I can't never vector properly at all.
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>>323963778
MAC D PLEASE
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1. Armada
2. Hbox/plup
3. Hbox/plup/ppmd
4.plup/ppmd

Thats all I got. West can still sandbag against a modest player and lose. A good fox can beat axe. Maybe shroomed, oddly enough he never performs in NW regionals as he does at nationals, so im curious to see what trend itll be this time. I know there's a bracket out, but does someone know if kels is going? It breaks my soul that he only travels around IL and to big house.
Fuck forgot silentwolf. Replace ppmd with him
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>Melee threads everyday again
Feels good man
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CSGO takes more skill than this console shit
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>>323965230
Only because Genesis is this weekend.
Off-season melee threads get flooded by shitposters, so it's nice to space them out.
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>>323965238
Don't you have bail to make?
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>>323965238
nice bait
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>>323965238
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>>323965238
>hurr durr grabs sniper
>camps, waits to see if a player remotely gets close
>so much skill
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>>323965312
Still, it's incredible that people are actually talking about Melee instead of people that play Melee or how this game is shit or that game is shit.
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Who /purpledorf/ here?
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>>323965546
Yeah it's refreshing to see a Melee thread like this. People recommending best ways to play, character tips, placing predictions. And not a single tr4shpost to be found
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>>323965685
captain ganon reporting in
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>>323965685
i've been trying greenandorf recently
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kirby mains reporting in
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>>323966135
people really play kurby????
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>>323966312
people with no respect for themselves
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>>323966135
LOL
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>>323966312
Kirby was my favorite character in 2002
Also Roy
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>live in Europe
>want to see muh niggas Armada and Ice wreck shit
>check schedule
>ayy lmao west coast USA lol
>Top 8 starts at 3:30 in the middle of the night
>Top 64 on saturday starts at 3:00 as well

Simply amazing.

But at least I can watch Smash 4 at 0:00 :^)
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Holy shit
www.facebook/DJNintendo/videos/10153522990903894/
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>>323966135
>>323966312
I play Kirby with scrubs just to fuck around with them.
A lot of them don't even remember the suicide backthrows so they don't mash out.
Also copying a scrubby Falco's laser and watching him struggle with short hop triple laser is adorable.
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where are my falcbros at
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>>323967768
you know it
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>>323967768
fuck your giant hit-boxes and bullshit lasers
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>>323962473
You could go for someone immediately familiar like Doc, or another floaty like Peach/Puff.
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>>323967856
why be a bird when you can be a warrior
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>>323968096
funny you would say, I actually used to main Ganondorf before switching to Falcon and then to Falco/Marth

Ganondorf is still tons of funs for Project M, but I can't go back to him in Melee, not after having a good taste of Falco and Marth
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>>323967768
I'm a bird's man myself.
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>>323968286
>that PM ganon float
>usable uptilt

God damn, Project M Ganon gets me rock hard
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>he doesn't main a floaty

what's your excuse, /v/?
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>>323968451
wait a second
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>>323968637
I main Peach and Puff, get on my fucking level.
I'm trying to pick up samus for friendlies just so people hate me even more.
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>>323968637
They're cancer. Even your pic says so.
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>>323968531
>short hop flame choke
>he techs it behind
>mfw I knew he would and I reverse my uptilt
That and catching a scrubby recovery with the sword taunt, no better feeling
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>>323965685
all dorfs look the same
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>>323968637
floaties are for sadists.

Seriously. Peach, Jiggs, ICs and Samus are all for monsters who like rape and torture before murdering and eating you.
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>>323968892
>mfw I literally play all those characters, IC and Samus being mediocre at them
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Falco and sheik mains are the cancer of the smash community
I don't even care about jigglypuff or ICs. niggerbird and transvestite ninja are complete and total fucking aids
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>>323966773
oh shit drunk smashers
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>>323969218
>he can't adapt

lol get fucking good scrub
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>>323969218
Falco is the fucking least cancerous character you faggot

>loses to marth and fox
>fun to watch at any level
>creative combos
>no bulshit except maybe down-air
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>>323969218
Once you learn to deal with lasers Falco is not that big of an issue.
Sheik is just braindead. If you play against a Sheik player please remember that you're up against an actual autist. Do not bully him.
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>>323969490
sheik is the reason mid tier characters will never be viable
meanwhile falco is just so fucking annoying
>>323969490
if you're playing falcon, there is nothing you can do to adapt. i hate being forced to play fox
>>323969560
>autocancel bair
>lasers
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>>323969218
>hating on the most honest character in Melee
only scrubs think Falco is cheap
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>>323969218
>power shield run up grab
>throw him offstage and gimp
wow so gard
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>>323970271
this is a Melee thread
>>
TOP 5 MOST CANCEROUS CHARACTERS

1. SHEIK
2. PUFF
3. ICs
4. MARTH
5. PIKACHU
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>>323970586
Do you
a. main a space animal?
or
b. main a space animal?
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>>323970740
fox/falco dual main, master-race desu
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>>323970586
Hi, Fox main
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a-am I the only Doc bro here?

Seriously though, why are there no Doc mains? He is generally considered to be the best character aside from the 8 high/top-tiers, so why is he not more popular?

Even meme characters like Ganondorf and Luigi get more love.

>>323970586

Most cancerous:

1. NTSC Fox
2. NTSC Sheik
3. Jiggs
4. IC
5. PAL Sheik
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>>323970586
There is literally nothing wrong with Marth
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>>323970586
why sheik desu
so easy to kill so dont really think they re cancerous
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>>323970586
1. Falco
2. Shiek
3. Peach
4. Falco again
5. Marth
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>>323970926
Because he's not good. Literally 1 good Doc main in the history of Melee, and he dropped him. Doc gets no results and has no players. Not even a single Doc in the top 100 players. I have no idea why people think he's good.
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>>323971003
Sheik is a braindead character to learn. Has decent survivality, a bullshit tech-chase, the best sheild in the game, great speed, and generally succeeds tremendously at low-level play. No character i'd want out of the game, but sheik is by far the most bullshit when you're starting to get good.
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armadaugs
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>>323970926
>Seriously though, why are there no Doc mains?

Why don't swimmers wear hiking boots?
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>>323971372
yeah i've been enjoying watching shroomed's marth take some games off of armada.
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>>323951652
proof?
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>>323970926
>Seriously though, why are there no Doc mains?
Why would you main an unviable character?
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>>323971231
>>323971385
>>323971545

- High damage output
- Good combo game
- Chaingrab on fast-fallers
- Kills early/has plethora of killmoves
- Many mixups
- Strong crouch-cancel game
- Has a cape to gimp people and reflect

In addition he is not light, and also has a decent speed.

Does his shit recovery really fuck thát much up?
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>>323971727
That's good and all but a high/top tier would be better.
There's a reason why the best Doc in the world switched.
Doc is a nice secondary tho.
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>>323948224
>>323948531
Thanks guys!
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>>323971727
His neutral pretty much sucks in addition to that. He can pill and hope the opponent fucks up. Also his combo game isn't very impressive, most of it can be DI'd out of very easily, it's hard to get 2 hits unless the opponent is a nice guy and DI's in at all times or gets fucked by a raw fair. His kill power is alright, it's just harder to land anything except fair.
What mixups are you talking about though?
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>>323971727
He just has shit mobility, that's why Shroomed dropped him. Just watch a Mario move around platforme vs. a Doc and its night and day.

That's why Luigi is so good, he can be anywhere at any time.
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I main Pika, secondary Shiek. I need work on my Pika though, I struggle with getting hits off on foxes and Marths. Also thinking of picking up Mario, seems really fun.
Was advised to pick up Fox, but idk if I wanna
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Oh boy I sure can't wait for the hype matches of Fox vs Fox, Fox vs falco, Fox vs Marth, Fox vs jigglypuff and Fox vs sheik. I only saw it 800 times last year, I'm getting withdrawl symptoms from not seeing shine into upsmash every day
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>>323972157
you dont like luigis, ganons falcons, pikachus, ice climbers, ??????????
>>
Who /wizzrobe/ aka /bestfalcon/ here?
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>>323972090
Oh almost forgot, Ganon/Falcon also caught my eye.
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>>323972157
>>323972273
waiting on eddie mexico, viva la mexico
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>>323972157
>look I posted it again!
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>>323954140
I heard it was a triple elimination tournament which is why he had to play an extra set
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>>323972157
>I don't actually watch tournaments: the post
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>>323972157

I kind of tend to agree.

NTSC Fox is pretty much just broken tier, I wish the more balanced PAL version was tournament standard.
>>
Does Shiek really have the same wavedash timing as Fox? Also what's the best Shiek combo to use at med percent?
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>>323972157
>implying fox v falco and fox v marth arent generally hype af
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>>323972776
Fox vs. Falco is by far my favorite matchup. Both characters can go off so hard on each other, and there's not much cancerous chaingrabbing to deal with
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>>323973083
Fox can chaingrab the fuck out of falco
>>
Who is your least favorite character to fight?

Luigi for me. I fucking hate Luigi and he makes me just want to get mad.
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>>323972668
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Jump#Super_Smash_Bros._Melee

Same jump squat frames = same wavedash timing, so yes.
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>>323973083
oh boy can't wait to see laser spam
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>>323973782
have you even seen a fox v falco match? laser spam is not going to get you very far there.

You post like the only thing you've heard about Melee is the stupid "fox only no items final destination" meme
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>>323973596
>Giga Bowser has fewer jump frames than Bowser
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I want to see Tekk vs Hungrybox at some point. Let's settle once and for all who the best puff is..
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>>323974286
They don't even need to play to know how the best Puff is
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>>323974286
Are you Tekk's friend or something?
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>>323974286
>player who's placed 1st or 2nd in every recent tourney
>player nobody's ever heard of

hmm I wonder
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>>323970586
Puff and climbers. Everyone else is cool with me.
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Since we alreasy know Armada has this in the bag what else are you looking foward too?
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>>323974507
>>323974473
they've never played in bracket broski. if tekk won the ditto, things would be shaken up to say the least
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Mangos girfriend deleted her twitter account.
@lunark1tten
Anyone know what happend?

She might be a stupid fat feminist bitch but that didn't stop me from fantasizing perverted things.
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>>323974836
Axe's crew looks really good
>Pika
>ICs
>Fox
>Sheik
>Falco

nice variety, Wobbles could run train in crews if he takes some wobble stocks
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>>323975000
jailbird

nice trips>>323974910
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>>323975023
Yeah I'm thinking Hbox, Sfat, or Axe's team is gonna win, but Axe and Sfat are gonna have mondo trouble playing Peach
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>>323974910
Tekk won't make it out of pools, therefore he won't play Hbox
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>>323975000
>He doesn't know
Someone tell him
Nice trips
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>>323975000
fuggen gross
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>>323975225
your an idiot.
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>>323975000
dem fucking hips

high test girls are the best
>>
>that last donation on Armada's practice stream
My fucking sides.
>>
Who do you think is the best player in these threads? I bet it's me.
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>>323975462
that was great

we better get some boots and cats
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>>323975000
D W A R F
W
A
R
F
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>>323975231
>LMAO PIZZA!!!!
i don't understand this gif

>>323975536
it's probably me
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>>323975536
Me.
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>>323975547
Fucking wizard.
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>>323975450

>high test

Stop using terms you don't understand.

High test does not mean chubby, heavy, fat, or pear-shaped.
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>>323975536
me. I'm a peach main and i get top 8 at locals.

would d-smash all you faggots
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>>323975339
just watched a set where Leffen sandbagged against Tekk (multishining, unnecessary lasers, charging smash attacks) and 3-0'd him

dudes a fucking dustpan, get over it
>>
who /tablecloth/ here
>>
>>323975703
It's not hard to get top 8 at your locals if there's only 8 people there.
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>>323975782
when was this? tekk has improved a lot since HEIR, i think you're sleeping on him.

he has a great chance to make top 8, just like s0ft did at Apex 2014. People are sleeping (no pun-intended) on the power of puff
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>>323975943
>he has a great chance to make top 8
Not this year.

We may be under estimating him, but you are way over estimating him.
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>>323975903
I'm in a stacked region, it's called NEW FUCKING YORK if you haven't heard of it

new york state
buffalofags where u at ;___;
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>>323975450

Those aren't hips my friend, but love handles.

She literally is fat american dwarf, and even with all that fat she still has no boobs. Add in the fake blonde hair and the picture is complete.
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>>323976078
we don't know, Tekk has cleanly beaten great players like Duck and Overtriforce, and if his bracket tips in his favor he can sneak in.
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>>323976251
Tekk has to prove he can consistently beat players who make top 8 regularily (not duck and overtriforce). Just saying "i'm sure he can do it" doesn't mean anything, results are all that matters
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>>323976249
she has huge tits, that's a bad photo. she's a fat slob and would probably be a great lay.
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>>323976458
she looks like she has an extra chromosome too
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>>323966773
>when you shine someone in the few vulnerable frames at the end of their firefox
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>This Armada stream
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>>323976856
lol adam looks adorable here :3
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>>323976856
>adam will never dance for you
just let me die in my sleep already
>>
>>323976856
>when you nut and she still sucking
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who team /adderballz/
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>>323977146
Weston is the beston
>>
Why are ganon players the absolute worst melee players? I've met some cool ones but most honestly are annoying assholes who play for "hype" or "disrespect". Some are cool guys but seeing cringy shit like bizarro is embarrassing.
>>
>>323977326
Eikelmann is bro-tier, watch some of his vids sometime
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>>323976856
Someone speed this up and add a changing color effect
>>
This stream reminds me of Bro Teams streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI-uxmSeCo0&index=11&list=UUkop4F44-FV6N92-PNAYzxA
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>>323970926
Doc is garbage and you need to pick a top tier, I say this as a luigi playier. Unless doc is your character who feels perfect to you consider switching.
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someone donate to in /v/'s name and think of something funny to say
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>>323977641
I did the tit's one
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>>323977641
Of course, a nigger donation.
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>>323977641
EBIN Xdddd
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>>323977904
kek
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>>323977641
Literally don't do this
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>>323963778
>>323964838
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>>323977935
Fuck.

Off.
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>>323977146
Ice is a pretty fragile guy. I got to know him at my friend's house when he was here for BH5. I don't think he takes losses well.
>>
>>323978029
>hating fun

how does it feel to be a crusty old cunt.
>>
>>323978056
Jesus he's all out
>>
>>323978171
Great
>>
>>323978074
>>323978171
you faggots must honestly be 12 if you think paying money for robot noises is funny
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>>323978202
MacD is the most flamboyant gay out there, even more so than DoH or Reno.
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>>323975231
>>323975000
Someone fill me in on this
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It hasn't been a day and theres already an article on ESPN about Melee
http://espn.go.com/esports/story/_/id/14572208/smash-genesis-preview
Written by Prog no less
>>
>>323978405
Why don't you read the fucking thread or the one yesterday or the day before that?
>>
we need an /esports/ board

HIRO, it's time.
>>
>>323978238
ayyy
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>>323978589
this desu
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>>323978589
We really really don't
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>>323978589
It's called /vg/ you fucking MONG
>>
>>323978718
MOOOOOOOOOOOT
>>
>>323978706
>>323978718
either way, there's gonna be another video game board since he crated the video game sub section on the main page

my guess is its either e-sports or 'anime games' (?)

i don't mind posting here, but it would be cool being in the same space as DOTA and CSGO affairs
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>>323978727
isn't the smash general literally just sm4sh players?
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>>323978718
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

;_;
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>there are people that think ganon is viable
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>>323978727
/vg/ is awful son, if anyone posts there you deserve to burn in hell.

/e-sports/ would be slow like /asp/ or something. just be a good place for resources and twitch streams would be more legitimized.
>>
>>323979006
Literally no one does though
>>
>>323978935
not only that but egocentric faggots that jerk each other too.
>>
>>323979006
He's officially a low-tier as of the 2015 tier list.
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>>323979141
that's every general
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>>323958457
Wobbles isn't a problem if he studies up on the matchup. He only loses when ICs get him by surprise. PP is a 75% chance to lose to, Armada is about 95%
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>>323979570
I don't know, man, Wobbles beat M2K the last time they played
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>>323979051
there's literally nothing wrong with /vg/
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>>323979570
I still believe.
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>>323979729
Get

Out
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>>323979917
tell me what's wrong with it or how is it any worse than /v/
>>
>>323966974
Kirby can only SHDL with falco faggot
>>
>>323980059
just read 5 posts upthread, it's nothing but tripfag circlejerks. You have 10% of the thread(s) dedicated to the game, 90% to unrelated waifu jerks, memes, namefag callouts, etc. The only useful thing is the information in the OP.
>>
>>323980238
So just like /v/ then
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>>323980238
there's literally not a single trip in the general i browse
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>>323979715
No, the day after LTC m2k beat him at the dfw local.
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>>323980336
well you're lucky. didn't address the other things though.
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>>323980238
sounds like you only browse lolg son
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has anyone been able to find a mugshot of Lauren?
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>>323980451
everyone seems to be discussing the game too, obviously there's memes though
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>>323980516
Can we not, that could get really ugly really fast. Mango doesn't need that shit going around.
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>>323980504
i browse /utg/, /ssb/, /nintyg/, and /secondlife/
>>
this is the first time I've visited one of these threads

what the fuck? instead of discussing the game all you guys are talking about is your favorite players and the matchups you want to see like it's fucking anime or pro wrestling. you've literally found something more autistic than youtuber cocksucking

at least sm4sh threads people discussing the game and playing each other
>>
>>323980516
what's her full name, this shit is public domain in amerifat land isn't it? aren't there mugshots on police websites? shouldn't be hard to find.
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>>323953621
Post PeoplesChamp in any twitch chat until you summon Toph, he will explain perfectly.
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>playing in tourney
>1-1 last stock situation with me as falco and my opponent as fox on fod
>knock him offstage
>he's down below the stage and i decide to dair him for the kill
>accidentally fast fall and lose my stock before he dies
>tfw
>>
Holy fuck Armada, everytime there's a Firefox startup he just shines that shit out perfectly. I can never do that shit.
>>
>>323980654
>instead of talking about the game you're talking about the game on a level I'm unfamiliar with

Its ok dude, I'm not mad at you.
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>>323980652
m8, you browse the worst of the worst.

Try /ddg/.
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>>323980652
/utg/ is just "sex with waifu"
/nintyg/ is shillers on /v/
and if you don't think /ssb/ loves the smell of their own farts and gobble the cum of anyone in there then it's probably because you do too.
>>
>>323980654
Yesterday's thread wasn't that bad, it's mostly because Genesis 3 is tomorrow and the hype is at boiling point

This is nothing compared to half the shit threads on /v/ anyway
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>>323980586
I'll be sure to tell mang0 you found it and spread it
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>>323980654
Thanks for letting us know you didn't read the thread, there's plenty of discussion about characters and gameplay, but Esports is a big part of the community and with Esports comes top players. Tr4sh players are usually divided by For Glory shitposters/Tr4sh /v/eekend fags and Esports as well.
>>
>>323980654
>I never read threads

Also this >>323980654

>why you talk about thing pertinent to your hobbies REEEE

Go back to your "check my 11 mains" and For Glory shithole threads.
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>>323950731
no and no
this has been disproved many times already. Dolphin in full screen mode/official nintendo adapter/mayflash 4 ports adapter have absolutely zero lag (the old 2 ports has some). Stop spewing false informations
>>
>>323981325
idiot
>>
>>323981325
No
>>
>>323962473
Yo man I'm in the same boat. Stick with Luigi, don't get a new main. Luigi is one of a kind, he has to be played very optimally. Keep your pride stick with Luigi.
>>
Am i crazy for playing with a wii u pro controller? I only play on netplay cause no scene in my entire country and i prefer using one controller for everything. I'm doing fine with it and if i ever will attend to a tourney (unlikely) i can simply buy a gcn and get used to it a couple weeks before.
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>>323984010
All characters with long wavedashes are cool in my opinion, Luigi and Marth are fun as fuck
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>>323984752
Fact. Mobility is my favorite aspect of Melee. It's like an anti-stress thing for me to just chill out and wavedash for hours.
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>>323980654
This, instead of discussing the game its all eceleb bullshit
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>>323985590
It's because 99% of the people on here don't actually play. It's always been this way.
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>>323961385
how small is the smallest crt? hmu
>>
>>323985779

Fuck I hate puff and the matchup, but I love it so much.

I'm a falco main and she teaches me patience whenever I fucking play against a puff player.

At my local, two puff players had a 1 penny money match, Bo5. It took 30 minutes over a penny.
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where are the fox players?
My new favorite thing is to try a shine turnaround backair edgeguard, it looks so sick.
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>>323987731
Also, this fucking video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDfOFyXGgJU

>STYLE ON HIM
best thing ever.
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>>323987731

>He doesn't moonwalk backair
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>>323987731
shine to bair on falling opponets is always fun to land, multishine to grab also is both optimal and nets you some style points
>>
>>323957659
>What is spacing
>>
>>323955181

Hungrybox and 63 other top melee players don't have to do pools
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>>323965685

My nigga. The most lordly of Ganondorfs
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Is Salty Suite tomorrow or Saturday?

Also,

>tfw no Leffu at Genesis
>>
>>323988381
They have to do r2 pools still
>>
>>323988625
i think its saturday

tomorrow is men's crew/ladies' crew
>>
>>323989024
Are we finally having two different Melee leagues? Mens and Women's?
>>
>>323989154
hopefully not
>>
in what timezone is genesis?
>>
>>323989217
Why not? Every other sport does, why not esports? Girls suck at video games, so it's not fair they have to compete with the men.
>>
>>323989305
cali. starts at 10am pct/1pm est/6-7pm yuro
>>
>>323965685
Do Ganon's cock n balls really hang that low? Damn daddy
>>
one thing i'm excited about is there's a good chance an ICs makes the top 8 this year.

Wobbles is looking very solid and Nintendude always has a fringe shot dude to his wobble-heavy approach.
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>>323989396
thanks nigga i'm ready now
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>>323977480
EVISCERATION
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>not a smashfag
>dont follow the scene or play the games
>only care if leffen is playing in top 8 and about to win because he talks shit about the other players
>he's not even attending whatever the fuck genesis is

what the fuck man
>>
>>323992096
HE DOESN'T EVEN GO HERE
>>
I want my qt autistic husbando M2K to win. I want my favorite BBC The Moon to get far since his Marth is just so aesthetically pleasing to watch.

But it doesn't matter what I want, because the tournament will basically be Armada beating everyone in a Fox ditto and it'll be boring to watch.
>>
>>323989359
Women's leagues are just where the trannies go to win money. It still wouldn't be fair for grills.
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>>323986867
>tfw shine into shine at like 40 and kill off the top
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>>323972445
It was a double elimination bracket until top 8 iirc where it suddenly became a triple elimination. This should never happen ever. It's mostly a meme at this point though.
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>>323989792
>mfw Nintendudes set with Mango at The Bighouse
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>>323963252
>>323962802
No option in the game is "bad". It depends on your opponent. Doing a move that would fuck up one opponent mentally will not happen against another for example.
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How do you guys feel about a furry convention being at the exact same timeslot and place as this Smash event. I'm pretty sure if you were to go to that convention center now there would be nothing but degenerates in fursuits. Then I'm sure it'll smell like unhygenic autists AND sweaty fursuits when the Smash stuff starts tomorrow.
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>>323962473
Play Luigi. Unless you're trying to win majors, your character isn't going to be your bottle neck. Luigi is fun as fuck, who doesn't like Yoshi's story sized wavedashes?
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Redpill me on Fox's nair.
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>>323994552
Not much to say. If shine didn't exist, it would be his best move. Safe on shield, combos into everything including itself multiple times. Can even kill at like 160.
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>>323994918
Shine's knockback properties are too perfect. I mean Fox has a follow-up for fucking everything. On every character
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>top shit at a high school level
>me and my 3 best friends could win any bracket tournament
>played with my universitys local scene and didnt win a SINGLE match in my entire time there
>so bad that people ask if I'm a Smash 4 player I've never touched it

This is pure suffering.
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>>323989359
They have no physical disadvantage that prevents them from competing with men. If less than 1% of your playerbase is female, then of course you won't have any good female players because they're a tiny sliver on the amazing player roulette. Having separate male and female leagues wouldn't do anything other than make the latter look bad, especially in something like Melee since Admiral would just fuck everyone up for free, including the trannies because Melee doesn't have a Ricki Ortiz.
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>>323962264
Might have been using the notoriously shitty old Mayflash one
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>>323978056
>that ending
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>>323970926
>He is generally considered to be the best character aside from the 8 high/top-tiers
Except for Pikachu and Samus
The Doc is shit tier meme needs to die though, Ive seen an alarming amount of retards put him below Yoshi and Ganon
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>>323971727
His bair is also good for gimping and upB cancel OoS is a great tool to immedietally get out of pressure
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>>323971836
Yeah noone is saying he's much competition for top tiers, but he's still the mid tier champ
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>>323950731
no lag with direct connect on dolphin, if you have good enough monitor you get like 2ms less lag overall than crt and gamecube
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>>324000227
2 WHOLE fucking frames? Youre fucking stupid to assume that wouldnt throw my game off.

Fuck off scrub.
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Hey guys make sure to tune in and watch the scar and toph show whenever you can. These guys are hilarious and give great incite into melee, they're gems that should be admired for talking over the game about old stories they think are funny.

WATCH THE SCAR AND TOPH SHOW
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>>323981325
>absolutely zero lag

not true, but with right setup you can get less than gamecube and crt, but it's miniscule
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>>323948492
I don't, it was lucky
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>>324000436
>1 frame = 1ms
lol
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>>324000436
you know what ms is right?
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>>324000436
>2 WHOLE fucking frames? Youre fucking stupid to assume that wouldnt throw my game off.

Maybe you should know how much 2 milliseconds (it's in the word) actually is before spouting shit?
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>>324000484
gtfo toph
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>>324000436
>2ms = 2 frames

Melee doesn't run at 1000 FPS
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>>324000436
60/1000=0.06 frames

i'd say that is negligible you fucking monkey
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>>324001095

>scar and toph show
>implying that's Toph

Hi PeoplesChamp
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>Melee was my favorite game when I was younger
>About three years ago, start watching tournaments
>Eventually start following the scene pretty heavily
>get a new copy of Melee about six months ago
> still can't even reliably wavedash

How the fuck do I do it, /v/? My hands feel like they're about to fall off after practicing any kind of tech skill for more than ten minutes.
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I mean you can get into one of the other games if you can't get into Melee. Try 64.
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>>323969602
this is true
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>>324002832
Gettin gud doesn't happen over night esp if your hands are not used to working like that best advice is to practice/play at least 1 hour every day if you really want to get better. You WILL notice improvement after a month or two or you're just ass.
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>>324003173
meant for >>324002832
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>>324002832
2 buttons and a direction
it's not rocket science
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how do I drop through platforms consistently

how do I keep myself from being panicked, because my hands get twitchy and it feels like there's a disconnect between what I want to do and what I end up doing
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GUYS M2K LOST HIS BAG

I REPEAT

M2K LOST HIS BAG WITH ALL HIS STUFF IN IT LIKE PASSPORT AND CONTROLLER.

IT'S FUCKING OVER!!!!!!!!
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>>323947672
Being a low tier hero sucks. Your option selects are complete ass and med tiers have painful neutral games to navigate even at med level play. You basically have to pray some scrubby ass fox doesn't know the matchup because if they do they make your life a living hell unless you outplay the fuck outta them.
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>>324002832
Don't worry about learning to wavedash until you know how useful it is. But really it's not hard at all to learn. Just practice jumping and then airdodging down and to the side right after. Then do it faster.
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>>324004126
option selects are different from options
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>>324003557
Why would he take his passport when he isn't leaving the country?
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Has VI developed into anything useful? Or will it remain a random running joke in the TBH5 VOD's forever?
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>>324008068
What's VI? V-cancelling?
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>>324009573
>VI
ffs, yeah V-cancelling
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>>324003557
m2k pls ; - ;
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