>>323942950 I like Overwatch, but even I think your being a tosser. >>323942268 >Game can't do anything new. >Casual games can't be E-sports. You don't need to be a football player to enjoy watching a match of football, you just need to enjoy watching it. Same thing with vidya. For example, I hate playing Dota 2 but I love watching the matches, because most Dota 2 players have a signpost in their head that makes them more or less retarded.
This game offers absolutely nothing the FPS community wants and is shallow as a kiddie pool. It'll be dropped like Battlefront because there's no skill involved and multiplayer games shouldn't cost money.
So no, it's not going to be competitive because it's going to be dead on arrival. Just like HotS.
>>323946518 >This game offers absolutely nothing the FPS community wants How does the game lack in variety tho? > is shallow as a kiddie pool How so? >multiplayer games shouldn't cost money. Ah yes, because 40$ is allot of tacos.
>>323945530 >>To low. >The game is about countering heroes, and each hero as their own playstyle. >>Longevity. >New heroes are being released. So its an ASSFAG? Because those are things that define ASSFAGs. Lower mechanical skill needed compared to knowledge of the game/game sense.
>>323946657 >No skill at all >Dedicated win button >20 ticks >No single player or bots >Two game modes only >Microtransactions in a game that already costs money >No custom servers >No mod support Fuck Blizzard.
>>323946853 >No skill at all. >Dedicated win button. 76's aimbot can be countered by moving behind a wall, MCrees can be countered by moving behind a wall, Hanzos can be countered by moving away from the obvious dragon DOT. >20 ticks. Easily fixable, it's beta. >No single player. How is this a bad thing? >No bots. So just because bots where not mentioned yet means they don't have them? >Two game modes only. In beta. >Microtransactions in a game that already cost money. It's skins tho, who gives a shit? Besides, it has to make post launch money somehow. >No custom servers. It's in a beta with 10 players, why would their be? >No mod support. Fuck off with your pony and porn mods.
>>323947205 >it's just a beta The game is shit just accept it. They fucked up. They had more than a year to make it not be garbage and they decided to have a console release instead of making the game worthwhile.
>>323948335 >You are playing the final version of the game. They would not let people stream if it wasn't the final product. The most you're going to get is a few balance changes. >This is a Blizzard game. You are delusional if you think they're going to add an entire game mode and add matchmaking between now and release. I didn't know the game was released. Or maybe your just baiting.
>>323948712 >they said The progression system is just going to be a grind based lockout that prevents you from playing the full game JUST like it is in Heroes of the Storm.
Any game mode they add from this point forward will be garbage and won't be relevant.
Do you honestly think they're going to add seven maps? And even if they do, how will that make the game not be hot garbage? The game is already dead. It will never be an esport and Blizzard will abandon it once they've gotten their money.
>>323949127 >The progression system is just going to be a grind based lockout that prevents you from playing the full game JUST like it is in Heroes of the Storm. Sauce on this, or is it your ass? HoTS was a flat out flop, no buts and or ifs, so I don't think their making the same mistake twice. >Any game mode they add from this point forward will be garbage and won't be relevant. Hot opinion. >Do you honestly think they're going to add seven maps? And even if they do, how will that make the game not be hot garbage? I do think they will add more maps, because it isn't made by the same studio has Heroes of The Toilet anon. You can stop comparing them now.
>>323949381 >I don't think their making the same mistake twice They are already making it. The marketing strategy is exactly the same and the game is just not fun to play. It handles like shit. Major features that any competitive FPS should have are missing. There is no hope.
>it isn't made by the same studio has Heroes of The Toilet You are too blinded by hype to see the clear similarities in how Blizzard is handling Overwatch. You're going to be disappointed. Don't waste your money.
>>323949409 A new game mode will not fix bad gameplay. The game itself is broken. Maybe it could have been good, but the focus on the console release fucked it up. There is no custom matchmaking. There is a built-in hardware mouse and the game is still janky even if you fuck with your settings to get it working the way it should. The FoV is locked at such a small range that no one is going to consider making a career out of playing this game. They have already showed all this to the public during the first big marketing beta. Blizzard is not stupid. They clearly have no plans of fixing any of this.
>>323949127 >Kikeplan explicitly talked about progression >stated their earlier tests (two confirmed systems) on progression just didn't work >one was a heroes of the storm/WoW talent-like system where skills are unlocked by playing, like building your character >scrapped >other was a purely cosmetic-reward based system, heroes had up to 20 levels, and certain points rewards a certain cosmetic >scrapped, but they're still keeping cosmetics like sprays in-game >explicitly desire a light progression system because other blizz execs have expressed views that Overwatch is fun on its own, doesn't need levels
Why do you spend so much time hating on a game you know absolutely nothing about?
>>323949992 >The marketing strategy is exactly the same How is it the same when they just sell skins and all the heroes are free? >The game isn't fun. Buzzword. >Major features that any competitive FPS should have are missing. Which ones? >The game itself is broken I didn't know it was glitched out to oblivion. >There is no custom matchmaking. There are about 10 streamers in the beta ya git, why would their be? >There is a built-in hardware mouse How the fuck can a digitally downloaded game have that? >The FoV is locked at such a small range Stopped reading there. They added in a FoV slider.
>>323950351 >>323950491 Guaranteed neither of these people played in the beta. Once again, don't waste your money. I give the game a six month lifespan at best before the hype dies and everyone realizes it's shit. I feel bad for all the teams and organizers getting ready to waste money on a DoA product.
>>323951386 >I'm not going to argue with you because nothing I say would convince you otherwise So you admit you can't argue for shit? >I wish video games weren't shit. I wish you weren't so damn salty.
>>323951386 >You believe the game is going to be successful because you want it to be successful. You do realize you're only stating opposite because you want the opposite to be true. This is called a shit argument.
>>323943594 A game doesn't necessarily have to have two sides actively playing against each other to be competitive. I know you don't think before you post but that's exactly what sports like golf and bowling are. So no, fps are not competitive by nature
>>323953039 Which weren't really designed under the premise of "Two players will play on TV's side by side in goals we didn't even put in the game" Golf and Bowling are designed to play with friends. Loosely comparing them makes you look like a fucking retard, not even defending that blunder Overwatch.
>>323953531 They can be, not in the sense multiplayer games are though. Bowling and Golf are consistently multiplayer in the fact that you have the ability to play with friends, unlike single player games. Speedrunning and shit is a bunch of people competing with the guy at the very top, which isn't really possible in bowling since the perfect game has already been recorded.
>>323953783 Fair enough, the only sport I can think of that has anything like single player competitive is running. Competing for distance or time, but usually any kind of competitive running is done at a race. The only other competitive way I could see running go were if people ran and posted their times. So I guess you're right.
All the little shit in the game adds up to make it bad. Like who the fuck thought it was okay to have the fucking arm constantly bouncing up and down in your view as the ape. How the fuck did they think that a gorilla would swing their entire fucking arm in front of their face in the first place?
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