Guys I really want to like The Division. I want to buy into the hype. But these watered down mmo-esque games never turn out like they're advertised. And it's fucking Ubisoft.. Division thread I guess
Yeah, after initially being hyped for watch dogs (but holding off buying it only to find it became awful), I don't openly trust anything from Ubisoft anymore.
MIGHT be neat, but there is no way in hell I'm getting it day one and before I see the release version for myself.
I was going to buy the humble bundle thing with all the Tom Clancy games and beta access but it just ended. I was interesting in playing it with some coworkers and seeing how it was
The graphics were already watered down, we might even see that getting worse, about the gameplay i'm afraid it'll be a destiny shithole.
It's not even a full MMO as they made you think in the beginning, it'll be single player/coop with zones for pvp, nothing special really.
Sorry man but why waste money on something that could be free, lov u nigga
Use this method, >>323939749
It might be cool, that is why i am looking into the beta to see if its worth my time.
I was so fucking hyper, then news came of the downgrade, the videos were diluted from gameplay to scenarios and smoke effects, they're marketing and that's it, the game has shown no progress in two years development except a fucking hospital ... they still showcase a grenade that rolls itself to enemies.
God damn it you niggers, go to Amazon, pre-order the game in physical form, get the email with the code and then cancel the pre-order.
Is fucking easy and you dont waste money.
For me, the only thing keeping my semi hyped for division is the fact that
>1. it cannot be worse than destiny
>2.I don't expect the goty from Ubisoft
>3.From what I've seen it'll at least be a decent time killer and may even be fun to play with some anons/friends
Its 33 dollars on cdkeys
Pre-order off amazon, wait for them to send you the beta invite code (takes about 1-3 minuutes), and then cancel the pre-order.
Beta soon, alpha was ok but I want to see how it looks and runs on pc and know more about ohw much content the game is shipping with, might be a Destiny scenario.
I semi agree with you, but Destiny gameplay was Halo 2.0 which with me was fine because Halo gameplay is just fine.
But The Division we dont know how the gameplay is, so in fact, it can be worse than Destiny.
I heard they took out Brooklyn from the game and its only going to be Manhattan, if thats the case in realse date, you can expect a full-on Destiny experience.
Division has more in common with BL2 than MMO, its not at a pseudo-MMO till it hits the PVP area. You don't see random players while patrolling the non-dark zone.
They'll fuck it up because its an open world Ubisoft game, looks like Far Cry with Division's third person gameplay.
>Watch Dogs, announced 2012 came out 2014
>Division, announced 2013 came out 2016
>GRW, announced 2015 coming out ???
2017 seems too soon, because the variety of environments shown is huge and they will need to design alot of shit for that world.
The third person gunplay is fine
The white borders was the area you could run around in the alpha
Brooklyn is still in teaser videos and shit, might not be a full thing like Manhattan but its in the game. Could be locked to the season pass aswell.
It won't be FULL on Destiny without the 2 minute loading times to go turn in quests constantly, or 2 minute loading time for PVP. Destiny without the load times and the on-planet zone transitions would be so much better
Dont you have other videos anon?
I would love to see more gameplay.
Well they promised Brooklyn and now is gone from the main game page, so there you go a broken promise.
Sadly no, youtube removed all the others
The only workaround is I make a person with a youtube account a manager of my channel and they can see my 25 minute 1080p one, but obviously I don't think I can trust any anons on the board to not fuck with my account, even if its not my main account
I really liked how intense the weather gets in this game, when it rolls in during pve or dark zone its really neat
Yup all but the radical civi video above for some reason
I can't get that UI. It's like it tries to do the Dead Space simplicity thing, yet still looks pretty intrusive and annoying.
At least it doesn't look like Siege UI. I need that hardcore playlist so those stupid pop ups can finally fuck off.
Siege was shit. I played in closed beta and open beta and bought it day one. All of them were fucking catastrophes.
But they have been improving the game a lot and it is pretty fun to play with friends. Making ranked the same as casual is a shitty decision though.
looks like a third person shooter Destiny
the map is full of fast travel checkpoints and instanced content. At least the PvP has some potential.
Going more into details:
>match started with you and 2 other teammates shooting some npcs in some alley
>you could sneak and stuff but there's no point in doing this
>felt like slower uncharted coop without explosions and ammo
>your team makes their way through the valley, then meet up with other 2 teams on some big arena
>objective is capture something
>when you meet new people they are listed as 'neutral' till they shoot you
>because people were retarted/couldn't fight habits from other games they shoot you on sight anyway
>due to only 3 team with 3 members it felt like tps capture point match on an empty server
I believe it will go the same way as Warframe
Max Payne 3 would be one
Dead Space 2 would be other one i guess.
Resident Evil 6 had budget and good gameplay, graphics are kinda hard to debate.
I guess Uncharted and TLOU doesnt count since the gameplay is solid but not good.
The only thing The Division has going for it is (was) graphics.
The PVP will be boring dumbed-down garbage, the gameworld will be stale shit, NPCs will be braindead, and exploration will be limited to rehashed garbage with the same enemies but randomized loot.
People give the animation on MSG crap because of QUALITY but I think the payoff was worth it for that excellent fight choreography. There haven't really been many moments like that in the entries afterwards.
Yeah there's a lot of shit in MSg but some scenes look really good. I can't remember was it Ral part or just impaling some other Zaku, but that scene was superb.
The division is going to be great. yes it's fucking ubisoft, whose record is shit recently, but they do tend to get a decent multiplayer out of their games. I mean, Watchdogs was pretty bad but the instance invasions were fucking excellent.
I think a TPS based on Dark souls PvP, which is what the division sounds like, could be pretty excellent. The only down side will be the quests, they will be MMO teir collect/fetch quests.
I think It has promise, I'm optimistic about it.
>a TPS based on Dark souls PvP, which is what the division sounds like
Stopped reading there.
Having an area dedicated to PVP inside what is generally a PVE environment != Dark Souls.
That's called an MMO you underage.
>The graphics were already watered down, we might even see that getting worse...
about the gameplay i'm afraid it'll be a destiny shithole.
It is a possibility.
>It's not even a full MMO as they made you think in the beginning, it'll be single player/coop with zones for pvp, nothing special really.
It has random instance invasions. You and someone else will be going about your business solo and you'll spot each other. It's up to you two what to do then. Kill each other for loot or team up and go to more dangerous areas for better loot.
But it focuses on a single player with instance invasions, right? Like dark souls.
MMO's have thousands of players in a single PVE instance, not including raids, not a solo player instance which get invaded (seemingly) at random by potentially millions of other players who are also solo.
You don't see other players outside of the dark zone and the hub/social area/s. Its less of a pseudo-mmo in that sense than Destiny, even if meeting people on planets in Destiny was uncommon anyways because its stupid zone transitions.
The make or break is content for this game, I wouldn't mind rehashed missions and shit if there is enough unqiue-locations for big missions and the combat/co-op can make repeatable missions fine.
Since unlocking skills and other shit is tied to doing missions, I assume there should be a decent amount.
>You don't see other players outside of the dark zone and the hub/social area/s
Okay, fine, it's an "MMO" in the same vein as Vindictus, PSO, MHO, Dragon Nest, etc.
Regardless, it's nothing like Dark Souls.
>no reason to upgrade the pc for the foreseeable future
Not really, no. Maybe if you like running 20k unit battles in total war on max settings, unless your rig already does that shit in which case congratulations
Total war is kind of shit now though.
I'm pretty sure in the PC version they had disabled settings in the menu that could be accessed through config/ini files that made the game look like it did in the e3 trailers, I don't know if that's really a "downgrade" but it seems they basically tried to remove the capacity to make the game look better than the console versions as far as I can tell.
Reckon I would I need an i7 for that? My computer needs an upgrade to play new games at high/max settings.
>play it for 1 or 2 months
This will probably happen.
> fps with RPG elements
> realistic setting
So what, are you gonna fight lv.1 hobos before moving on to lv. 10 bums until you fights the hobo king in a raid (better get good gear or you won't penetrate his trash can armor)
How much scavengan is in the game?
How much operatan is in the game?
I used to think that way but its not worth the money to play the same games that are designed for the console. What bothers me is jerkyness more than fps nowadays. Also Why pay 3 times the money to play games designed to be played with a controller on a big screen tv?
R6S turned out to be the funnest game of the year for me. Not the best, but the funnest, and completely to my surprise. Might just be a fluke, but maybe they're turning around.
Insider here just for you anon!
>Can you crouch down whenever you like?
No. You can't crouch at all.
>Can you go prone?
We've been working on a dynamic prone positions where you can prone pretty much anywhere, this is great for some planking screenshots.
>How's the cover system?
Like Battlefield, you can prone behind paper boxes for protection against RPG missiles.
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>Are the safe houses more like Dark Souls or Dead Rising?
We promote logging out if you find yourself under stressful fire and log back in for 5 seconds of invulnerability.
shit when they ported gears of war it didnt even have keyboard/mouse support correctly implemented stating they didnt have time for the pc.
A little overzealous on the timeline lets just say since the ps3.
First of all, TW3 isn't a console port.
Most multiplats are actually ported from PC to console in fact.
And for FPS difficulty, that's irrelevant, it's like saying fighting games are too easy because they're easier to play with a controller than they are with a dance pad.
you actually believe this dont you. Thats sad. They design games to work around really underwhelming hardware. There is no way around this. Games that use any gpu at all do it becasue of graphic bloat thats tacked on. I'm looking at anything gameworks with that last statement.
I play it a lot and I have a lot of fun with it. There can be a lot of variety in what can happen in a match and its glorious when you communicate perfectly with your team. Ranked is where the real game is at in my opinion. Casual is too short and lame.
>because people were retarted/couldn't fight habits from other games they shoot you on sight anyway
This is why I cannot play any of these survival post apocalyptic games. I wish there was some sort of fix for people's assholery, sometimes I just want to run into randoms and have a chat about the state of the game world, but no, everyone just instantly starts shooting at you. It's so incredibly boring
No, not really, otherwise older games with console versions would be just as braindead and easy as modern games.
The real truth is that modern games are aimed at literal retards.
>Optimized for consoles
You dont know what optimization is I guess. It means it has to run on console hardware they fix the problem on pc by throwing inordinant ammounts of processing power at it.
the porting to console shit was in the past its now the other way around. And they only ported a few games to console and they were always gimped in a big way just to get them to work. Like Doom 64. Youre all ass backwards on this one anon. I know they tricked you just like they tricked me into upgrading my pc 4 years ago when they still designed games to work on computers. Theres only a couple left making games specifically for the power of the pc. Xcom 2 but only becasue it doesnt play well with a controller. and Star Citizen but thats crowdfunded so it doesn't count. Theres even cases of a Alpha game getting gutted just so it would work on console. Project Cars I'm looking at your shit.
A pseudo-MMO. MMO elements without the constant MMO part.
If you pre-order you get into the beta, so you can cancel your pre-order and get into the beta anyways. The beta will decide whether the game is worth getting anyways.
>It means it has to run on console hardware they fix the problem on pc by throwing inordinant ammounts of processing power at it.
And apparently you're blind and stupid considering a GTX 560 is outperforming both consoles in that image despite being on very high settings, and anyone with a brain knows that the 560 is objectively weaker than the PS4.
Ergo, the game is poorly-optimized on consoles.
>the porting to console shit was in the past its now the other way around.
Nope, quite a few games are still ported to consoles.
Examples: Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Battlefront, Battlefield 4/Hardline, Sniper Elite 3, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Dying Light, and quite a few more.
Sorry anon, but consoles are weaker than they've ever been, and the experience just isn't up to par.
Nevermind the fact that your entire argument is kind of a moot point since you can use just about any controller you like on PC.
theres alot wrong with your post but Assasins creed is a console game. Its ban ham combat for fucks sake designed to be played with a controller. It doesnt matter what I say, I can tell your just going to bullshit for the remainder of the argument.
>decdied to get season pass for blackflag because fuck it why not?
>i got a retail copy of BF so i had to use uplay no matter what
>get a free beta code for The Division
>"Sorry, the beta isn't available for your country."
>I don't like that game, so it's a bad example
Sounds about right.
>Assasins creed is a console game.
Nope, it's a PC game ported to consoles.
>designed to be played with a controller
Uhh no, it's designed to be played on whatever you want to play it on, and on PC that means everything from KB+M to DS3 to DS4 to a 360 controller to an Xbone controller to a WiiU Pro Controller.
AAA games never go under 30 on sales until like a year later, especially AAA games that don't flop.
Always buy from a key reseller. Its like 50% off constantly even near release
Since this could be considered a Tom Clancy thread, could any of you faggots recommend Ghost Recon Future Soldier? I hear the multiplayer has gone to shit bc of hackers, so is it worth it for the single player? Is the hardest difficulty actually hard?
and the bullshit keeps going. Whatever kid I know you want to justify your brand new Gaming computer but its just not justifiable anymore. I havent owned a console since Nes becasue pc gaming was objectively better in every respect. Now its shit like Nvidia gimpqworks thats supposed to justify the cost of the hardware. Its physx all over again and the devs are sick of looking like shit because of that hardware manufactureres shenanigans. Making games run like shit. adding tessellation under the water and pretending it was for a reason other than graphical bloat. Nvidia destroyed the industry now devs have fucked off to develop for consoles and let nvidia shit all over the pc version.
Also assasins creed has and always will be a console port to pc.
gimpworks is the definition of graphical bloat you faggot. God rays is just a layer of high contrast that they take slices out of in the shade to simulate sun shafts. Hairworks? fucking gay shit that ruins the games performance even when turned off. please anon stop being so stupid. Its worse for nvidia owners that own older cards but it still affects the overall optimization of the game just having a shit hardware developer try to implement experimental graphical bloat into your game. They are literally trying to make some console ports exclusive to nvidia owners alone. They have been cought red handed many times. I'm not just making shit up. It all started when physx was proprietary. gimpworks is the next iteration.
>T-THEY'RE RUINING PC GAMING, CAN'T YOU SEE
4/10, you're losing me anon.
You need to craft your bait to be more believable than this, no one that would defend console gaming would have the balls to shit on Nvidia when consoles are full of corruption, shitty business practices, and moneyhatting.
As a PC game dev, he's right. Nvidia is the fucking devil when it comes to PC gaming.
AMD supports open technologies while Nvidia is trying to close it off to push their own proprietary bullshit
They have been doing it since physx. I bought a shiny new gtx260 back in the day you know how many games that had physx in it back then? none. one special map for nvidia users on UTIII. Then it started showing up in a few games like borderlands 2. But my one year old card didnt have the power to use it and they already had a new card that could run it. Then portal two. that new card couldnt run it and I was supposed to upgrade once again jsut 2 years later to use the physx in that game. You too will learn. The next console that comes out will completely destroy the pc market becasue people will be fed up by then. Just like I am. I was happy just buying amd and disabling the features but they are now forced into all the new titles so fuck them. You see that pixelization arouhnd the tip of the gun thats gimpworks on high. Real nice tech, totally not a scam.
it was only one year since I bought it.
>doesnt look at the problem and spouts a meme.
Well you have to hand it to them they do know their audience. They want the console crowd.
>it was only one year since I bought it.
>Bought a 3 year old mid-ranged GPU in 2011
>Surprised when it can't run new games well with PhysX enabled
Serious question, are you retarded?
it was $300 dollars back then. and that was crazy expensive for the time faggot. You are only justifying $600 dollar cards because you are the one who is in fact pants on head retarded.
>it was $300 dollars back then.
Make up your mind nigger, did you buy it one year before BL2 came out or did you buy it in 2008 when it first released?
Because right now it sounds like you're just spouting a bunch of bullshit.
Also, I've never once purchased a GPU that was over $300, even back when I bought my 8600 GT.
Nope, this probably my 3rd personal PC and my 6th overall (including 2 that I shared with my brother and 1 family PC), and even this PC has been upgraded a bit.
It was a couple years after the card came out. I'm going from memory not googling everything and trying to point out small discrepancies in the argument while completely ignoring the argument being presented. I'm not going to engage in this argument anymore I can obviously tell I'm talking to a child. Enjoy your $1400 console game player though.
>Get wrekt when it's obvious that you just made up a bunch of shit about a PC that you clearly never owned
>"E-ENJOY YOUR PORTS!"
Spoken like a true retard.
It's been fun m8, your b8 kept me entertained while I alt-tabbed in and out of BF4.
because he cant remember exact timeframes? Seems more legit than someone that pretends he's memorized the release dates of every card and every game and has it ready to go off the top of his head.
>gameplay is literally GRFS
>not a fucking peep of gameplay except some heavily scripted and controlled instances
>at the conventions where they have shown off the Division they have had to have a Ubisoft member at every single console/PC to make sure people didnt click the wrong things breaking the game
There is absolutely no doubt that this game is going to release a totally unfinished mess. Im betting on this being worse than the Unity release.
>because he cant remember exact timeframes?
It's one thing to not remember the exact time.
To say that your 4-year old GPU was actually 1-year old tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about and you're either an idiot that bought a GPU that you knew nothing about or you're an idiot that just made some shit up and didn't actually know anything about the GPU you chose to falsify shit about.
Either way, he's an idiot.
well then what the fuck were you arguing about. he's right about the proprietary addons they try to put into every release that will let them. They use shady tactics to try and create a monopoly at the expense of the devs and the consumers.
You are comparing it to Ubisoft games that have become super formulaic, like Far Cry and AC.
I remember 1 trailer from 2013 which was the announcement, another from 2014, and several from 2015 aka closer to release. Obviously a game that was super far from release till 2015 which it was delayed from to 2016 wouldn't have as much footage as easy to put out FC or AC games.
Sometime this month, supposedly the 29th according to some leaked shit.
>but there is a huge lack of actual Pc developers.
First of all, define "actual."
Secondly, there's a huge lack of non-indie developers on every platform.
And frankly, there's no such thing as a game that "can't run on consoles."
Every game can run on every platform with enough tweaking and player input (mainly in changing control input methods).
If devs wanted to, the could easily put RTS games on consoles, just look at Tropico 5.
Thing is, they don't, because people don't want to play RTS games on consoles, not because consoles can't run them.
Hey, curious, how would we check that? I mean, it's gotta be true, but, do we even have good records of old devs? We still can't find some old games, lost forever since no one really keeps old tapes, like VCR. Always makes me wonder what's forever gone, ya know?
A lot of people really only focus on the big-name devs.
For instance, when people think about PC devs, they'll think of devs like Paradox, Westwood, and Creative Assembly, not the huge group of people who sat in their basements and worked on open-source games like the vast majority of MUDs.
For instance, HellMOO.
well the design them to run on consoles first even when the ps3 was out there were computer games that wouldn't run on consoles this is a new phenomenon with the new consoles and not everyone is buying it. considering consoles are toasters compared to enthusiast pc's.
Tl;dr the usual, graphics, animation. The trailer looks like a movie it's that good, right? Because it is. Some dude leaked some beta footage on v a while ago and it was not nearly as impressive looking and very much more by the numbers third person shooter.
>well the design them to run on consoles first
No, not really, they design them to run on all kinds of hardware.
This is like saying that Crysis was designed to run on an Intel GMA 4500 just because it CAN run Crysis.
The 2013 original gameplay is the exact same as the new gameplay, it was always a by the numbers TPS cover game. I think textures were a noticeable downgrade, but some of the new teasers look way better than the alpha footage from last month.
I didn't see anyone test the shooting through shit or the close-door-while-on-car thing from the 2013 footage. That'll be something to do in the beta
They just released a new 3-4 minute video and were posting small ~30 second clips for the past month.
You are forgetting there is going to be a non-NDA beta in that month, which everyone can look at finally and decide.
The gameplay hasn't changed in the past year from the first time I played it to all the leaked videos to the newest stuff
Actually what happened was the team with the tablet always won PvP situations so the cut it. Of course there could've been other reasons behind the scenes but that's the main reason for it.
>Any ghost recon after future soldier
>ubisoft open world game