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Guys I really want to like The Division. I want to buy into the hype. But these watered down mmo-esque games never turn out like they're advertised. And it's fucking Ubisoft.. Division thread I guess
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>>323936660
At least the new Ghost Recon kind of looks like it might be interesting...

They'll fuck it up.
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>>323936660
i bought a dirt cheap beta access code on g2a. if youre genuinely interested like i am i think this is the safest bet for your wallet.
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>>323939549
>safest bet for your wallet
>not pre-order the physical copy on Amazon, get the code on the email and then cancel the pre-order.

Nigga you stupid?
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>>323936660
Yeah, after initially being hyped for watch dogs (but holding off buying it only to find it became awful), I don't openly trust anything from Ubisoft anymore.

MIGHT be neat, but there is no way in hell I'm getting it day one and before I see the release version for myself.
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>>323939749
hey man why you gotta be like that
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>>323936660
I was going to buy the humble bundle thing with all the Tom Clancy games and beta access but it just ended. I was interesting in playing it with some coworkers and seeing how it was
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>>323936660
dead game

it's gonna be shit

Don't even bother
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The graphics were already watered down, we might even see that getting worse, about the gameplay i'm afraid it'll be a destiny shithole.
It's not even a full MMO as they made you think in the beginning, it'll be single player/coop with zones for pvp, nothing special really.
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>>323940194
Sorry man but why waste money on something that could be free, lov u nigga

>>323940225
Use this method, >>323939749

It might be cool, that is why i am looking into the beta to see if its worth my time.
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>>323936660
I was so fucking hyper, then news came of the downgrade, the videos were diluted from gameplay to scenarios and smoke effects, they're marketing and that's it, the game has shown no progress in two years development except a fucking hospital ... they still showcase a grenade that rolls itself to enemies.
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>>323939549
If i do g2a do i need to get the shield thing? Or is it probably fine?
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>>323940942
Probably fine, if you don't already own the Clancy games - get the Humble Bundle, includes all Tom Clancy's with a Division beta key.
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>>323940942
God damn it you niggers, go to Amazon, pre-order the game in physical form, get the email with the code and then cancel the pre-order.

Is fucking easy and you dont waste money.
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>>323941065
The humble bundle just ended a few hours ago. Can't get it anymore
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>>323936660
For me, the only thing keeping my semi hyped for division is the fact that
>1. it cannot be worse than destiny
>2.I don't expect the goty from Ubisoft
>3.From what I've seen it'll at least be a decent time killer and may even be fun to play with some anons/friends
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Its 33 dollars on cdkeys

Pre-order off amazon, wait for them to send you the beta invite code (takes about 1-3 minuutes), and then cancel the pre-order.

Beta soon, alpha was ok but I want to see how it looks and runs on pc and know more about ohw much content the game is shipping with, might be a Destiny scenario.

I'm hopeful
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>hyped for any "AAA" ubisoft game
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>>323941412
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>>323941637
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>>323941398
I semi agree with you, but Destiny gameplay was Halo 2.0 which with me was fine because Halo gameplay is just fine.

But The Division we dont know how the gameplay is, so in fact, it can be worse than Destiny.

>>323941412
I heard they took out Brooklyn from the game and its only going to be Manhattan, if thats the case in realse date, you can expect a full-on Destiny experience.
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even that tarkov game looks more interesting
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>>323941637
thats the size of the playable area? Or can you go outside of that fenced zone as well?
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>>323941854
Nigga we have old ghost recon devs working on this game.

That Tarkov game is from the russian devs that made a very fucking shitty F2P shooter game.
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>>323936660
Division has more in common with BL2 than MMO, its not at a pseudo-MMO till it hits the PVP area. You don't see random players while patrolling the non-dark zone.
>>323937231
They'll fuck it up because its an open world Ubisoft game, looks like Far Cry with Division's third person gameplay.

>Watch Dogs, announced 2012 came out 2014
>Division, announced 2013 came out 2016
>GRW, announced 2015 coming out ???
2017 seems too soon, because the variety of environments shown is huge and they will need to design alot of shit for that world.
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>>323941832
The third person gunplay is fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH5xQ-_oBLE

>>323941954
The white borders was the area you could run around in the alpha
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>>323941832
I didn't mean in terms of gamplay,I was referencing the empty promises like exploring the entire solar system
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>>323941832
Brooklyn is still in teaser videos and shit, might not be a full thing like Manhattan but its in the game. Could be locked to the season pass aswell.

It won't be FULL on Destiny without the 2 minute loading times to go turn in quests constantly, or 2 minute loading time for PVP. Destiny without the load times and the on-planet zone transitions would be so much better
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>>323942076
Dont you have other videos anon?

I would love to see more gameplay.

>>323942079
Well they promised Brooklyn and now is gone from the main game page, so there you go a broken promise.
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>>323941412
just tried it and got my code
where do I go to play the beta on pc?
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>>323942237
Sadly no, youtube removed all the others

The only workaround is I make a person with a youtube account a manager of my channel and they can see my 25 minute 1080p one, but obviously I don't think I can trust any anons on the board to not fuck with my account, even if its not my main account
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>>323942416
True, some faggot would fuck around with it.
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>>323942416
I really liked how intense the weather gets in this game, when it rolls in during pve or dark zone its really neat
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>>323942416
are you the anon that posted those division videos a while ago?
also did your private videos get taken down?
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>>323942582
Yup all but the radical civi video above for some reason
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>>323936660
>Guys I really want to like The Division. I want to buy into the hype.
>Ubisoft
Not even once.
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>>323942729
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>>323936660
I lost interest when I saw the downgrades. It looks fucking awful now.
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Guys I just redeemed my code, is the beta up yet?
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I can't get that UI. It's like it tries to do the Dead Space simplicity thing, yet still looks pretty intrusive and annoying. At least it doesn't look like Siege UI. I need that hardcore playlist so those stupid pop ups can finally fuck off.
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>>323942775
Siege was pretty good
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>>323942912
Probably late this month or early next
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>>323942918
Siege was shit. I played in closed beta and open beta and bought it day one. All of them were fucking catastrophes.

But they have been improving the game a lot and it is pretty fun to play with friends. Making ranked the same as casual is a shitty decision though.
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>>323942918
What was good about it? All I could get from the beta was a watered down sequel.
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>>323936660
looks like a third person shooter Destiny

the map is full of fast travel checkpoints and instanced content. At least the PvP has some potential.
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>>323942729
those weather effects are so cool.

Imagine Silent Hill with this level of fidelity.
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>>323942237
Beta starts in a week or two, its confirmed January.

Just do what the other anon said and pre-order+cancel for code. That or wait and watch streamers play it.
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I played one match on some event. It was like every other generic tps deathmatch, except with some weird objective that no one could figure out
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>>323943707
Going more into details:
>match started with you and 2 other teammates shooting some npcs in some alley
>you could sneak and stuff but there's no point in doing this
>felt like slower uncharted coop without explosions and ammo
>your team makes their way through the valley, then meet up with other 2 teams on some big arena
>objective is capture something
>when you meet new people they are listed as 'neutral' till they shoot you
>because people were retarted/couldn't fight habits from other games they shoot you on sight anyway
>due to only 3 team with 3 members it felt like tps capture point match on an empty server

I believe it will go the same way as Warframe
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>>323936660
They spend too much time creating movie sets and directing actors to make good games.
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>>323936660
it looks like a generic third person shooter I don't see why people are hyped
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>>323942830
>two different styles of taxi with different snow textures

Neat
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>>323945061
Name 3 third person shooters in the last 5 years with good budget, gameplay, and graphics.
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>>323946265
vanquish
saints row 4
splatoon
lost planet
plants vs zombies

well that was hard
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>>323946265
Shiiiet

Max Payne 3 would be one
Dead Space 2 would be other one i guess.
Resident Evil 6 had budget and good gameplay, graphics are kinda hard to debate.
I guess Uncharted and TLOU doesnt count since the gameplay is solid but not good.
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>>323946265
Fuck, I should have also included multiplayer, I forgot how many decent single player tps there are
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>>323942076
I don't get the point of that video. It's just some dude who slipped on ice.
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>>323943246
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The only thing The Division has going for it is (was) graphics.
The PVP will be boring dumbed-down garbage, the gameworld will be stale shit, NPCs will be braindead, and exploration will be limited to rehashed garbage with the same enemies but randomized loot.
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>>323947190
That was a great moment, laughed my ass off the first time I saw it.
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think ill get one of those 1 euro g2a keys, what is date for beta ?
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>>323947616
Just bought one from g2a and it didn't work. I've been waiting for over 30 minutes to contact their support
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>>323947480
People give the animation on MSG crap because of QUALITY but I think the payoff was worth it for that excellent fight choreography. There haven't really been many moments like that in the entries afterwards.
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>>323942416
>>323942729
Upload the videos then, let anons view and upload too
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>>323936660
I just want Massive to make another World in conflict title after...i can dream.
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>>323947749
Yeah there's a lot of shit in MSg but some scenes look really good. I can't remember was it Ral part or just impaling some other Zaku, but that scene was superb.
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The only good game Ubisoft has made recently is Rainbow Six: Siege and even that is buggy as shit
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>>323936660

The division is going to be great. yes it's fucking ubisoft, whose record is shit recently, but they do tend to get a decent multiplayer out of their games. I mean, Watchdogs was pretty bad but the instance invasions were fucking excellent.

I think a TPS based on Dark souls PvP, which is what the division sounds like, could be pretty excellent. The only down side will be the quests, they will be MMO teir collect/fetch quests.

I think It has promise, I'm optimistic about it.
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>>323948374
>a TPS based on Dark souls PvP, which is what the division sounds like
Stopped reading there.
Having an area dedicated to PVP inside what is generally a PVE environment != Dark Souls.
That's called an MMO you underage.
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>>323940476

>The graphics were already watered down, we might even see that getting worse...
On console.

about the gameplay i'm afraid it'll be a destiny shithole.
It is a possibility.

>It's not even a full MMO as they made you think in the beginning, it'll be single player/coop with zones for pvp, nothing special really.

It has random instance invasions. You and someone else will be going about your business solo and you'll spot each other. It's up to you two what to do then. Kill each other for loot or team up and go to more dangerous areas for better loot.
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>>323948482

Isn't that what happens with the Division?
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>>323949024
Yes.
That's why I said it's more like an MMO, not Dark Souls.
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>>323949091

But it focuses on a single player with instance invasions, right? Like dark souls.

MMO's have thousands of players in a single PVE instance, not including raids, not a solo player instance which get invaded (seemingly) at random by potentially millions of other players who are also solo.
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>>323949413
>But it focuses on a single player with instance invasions, right?
No, it's a PVE always-online game with a large PVP zone (dark zone).
It's basically an MMO.
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Does anybody know when the PC beta starts?
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>>323949839
29th jan
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My new years resolution is to not pre-order games and not fall for hype to buy games on day1.
Gotta wait for dem gameplay videos.
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>>323936660
>buy into hype
There is none, mr shill.
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>>323949509
You don't see other players outside of the dark zone and the hub/social area/s. Its less of a pseudo-mmo in that sense than Destiny, even if meeting people on planets in Destiny was uncommon anyways because its stupid zone transitions.

The make or break is content for this game, I wouldn't mind rehashed missions and shit if there is enough unqiue-locations for big missions and the combat/co-op can make repeatable missions fine.

Since unlocking skills and other shit is tied to doing missions, I assume there should be a decent amount.
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>>323951363
>You don't see other players outside of the dark zone and the hub/social area/s
Okay, fine, it's an "MMO" in the same vein as Vindictus, PSO, MHO, Dragon Nest, etc.
Regardless, it's nothing like Dark Souls.
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They only did graphical downgrades on console
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>>323939549
When is the beta beginning?
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>>323951952
I think E3 2013 won't be reachable even on PC. That time of day teaser was pretty damn nice looking though.
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>>323952187
>won't be reachable

It would be reachable but often they'll downgrade a PC version of the game to hold parity with consoles so as not to upset babbies.

See: Watchdogs.
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>>323952347
there truly is no reason to upgrade the pc for the foreseeable future. I know I felt burned and I upgraded 4 years ago.
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>>323952756
>no reason to upgrade the pc for the foreseeable future

Not really, no. Maybe if you like running 20k unit battles in total war on max settings, unless your rig already does that shit in which case congratulations

Total war is kind of shit now though.
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>>323952964
It does. Always buy heavy on the CPU.
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What is the Division suppose to be about?
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>>323952347
>downgrade the pc version

they dont, they just dont bother makng different builds, just like cdrp (a previously pc centric dev) did
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>>323953613
like I am legend, but with the plague and anti-disease "burn it all down" unit instead of zombies
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>>323953631
I'm pretty sure in the PC version they had disabled settings in the menu that could be accessed through config/ini files that made the game look like it did in the e3 trailers, I don't know if that's really a "downgrade" but it seems they basically tried to remove the capacity to make the game look better than the console versions as far as I can tell.

>>323953187
Reckon I would I need an i7 for that? My computer needs an upgrade to play new games at high/max settings.
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>>323953613
>some virus hits on black friday
>shit goes down world wide or maybe just USA
>get sent into NYC to bring order
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>buy it
>play it for 1 or 2 months
>move on

This will probably happen.
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>>323942416
upload the footage to some obscure porn site

will take them so much longer to delete it.
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>trusting Ubisoft after these last few years
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>>323953939
dont upgrade man its not worth it I'm mad I did 4 years ago.
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> fps with RPG elements
> realistic setting


So what, are you gonna fight lv.1 hobos before moving on to lv. 10 bums until you fights the hobo king in a raid (better get good gear or you won't penetrate his trash can armor)
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>>323954538
they just need to get over the rpg part and call it customization. Its not an rpg.
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>>323954538
>lfg hoboken ez run
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>>323954328
Yeah but I'm still on an i3, I barely get 120fps in source games on the lowest possible everything with only like 2xAA, I'm tired of looking at muddy textures man.
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>>323954708

I saw numbers popping up, so I assume there's some sort of progression
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>>323942038
and bam ham asylum was mde by some no name studio who made one low budget shitty ps2 title before
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How much scavengan is in the game?
How much operatan is in the game?
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>>323955231
>3rd person
>operating

No. Seeing enemy's exact positions without leaving cover because the camera does 100% of the work for you is not operating at all.
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>>323954818
just get a console, specially if you have an actual computer to do computer things.
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>>323955231
Little to none to both.
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>>323955328
>just get a console

No thanks I don't need a bloodborne box desu, mouse and keyboard are my jam.
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>>323955328
I don't think anon wants to deal with even WORSE performance than he already gets.
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>>323948808
That last line had me in tears thanks anon.
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>>323955429
Its not that bad really once you get used to it. I gave up I'm not going to spend enthusiast money to play a bunch of console ports.
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>>323955640
>Its not that bad really once you get used to it.
Yea nah, fuck that garbage.
I'm not into 30 FPS with drops family.
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>>323955775
I used to think that way but its not worth the money to play the same games that are designed for the console. What bothers me is jerkyness more than fps nowadays. Also Why pay 3 times the money to play games designed to be played with a controller on a big screen tv?
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Can you crouch down whenever you like?
Can you go prone?
How's the cover system?
How's customization?
Are the safe houses more like Dark Souls or Dead Rising?

I HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS
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>>323955409
You can still use a M&K on the PS4, dummy!
still not worth it
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>>323955964
I have never played a game that works better on a controller than it does with a KB+M senpai.
Mainly because I'm not shit with a KB+M.
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>Ubisoft
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>>323956094
I'm not either. but you either are lying or have not played many console ports.
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>>323956213
I literally just finished playing Dragon's Dogma m8.
Again, can't think of a single one.
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So wait, there won't be an open beta or what? Or trial or whatever? What kind of MMO is this gonna be
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>>323936660
>>323956204
R6S turned out to be the funnest game of the year for me. Not the best, but the funnest, and completely to my surprise. Might just be a fluke, but maybe they're turning around.
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>>323956036
Insider here just for you anon!
>Can you crouch down whenever you like?
No. You can't crouch at all.

>Can you go prone?
We've been working on a dynamic prone positions where you can prone pretty much anywhere, this is great for some planking screenshots.
>How's the cover system?
Like Battlefield, you can prone behind paper boxes for protection against RPG missiles.
>How's customization?
PS4 theme for $2, PC users get FREE wallpaper if they sign up for our monthly newsletter.
>Are the safe houses more like Dark Souls or Dead Rising?
We promote logging out if you find yourself under stressful fire and log back in for 5 seconds of invulnerability.
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>>323954984
Since leveling up doesn't unlock abilities, I assume levels are just there to gate weapons/equipment drops.
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>>323956279
>>323956094
0/10
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>>323956469
>I don't agree with it, so it's bait!
Sounds about right.
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>>323956279
you dont play that many ports then. For one thing the games are a joke in terms of difficulty even on the highest setting as its meant to be a challenge using the gamepad.
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>>323956395
Thank you, based division man
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>>323956516
What games are you thinking of in particular?
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>>323956809
any fps from the past 10 years for the difficulty problem. Witcher III is played better on the gamepad for both difficulty and control feel. many many more.
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>>323956809
>>323957209
I honestly can't tell if you are the same person trying to look retarded or you are actually both retarded.
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>>323956809
shit when they ported gears of war it didnt even have keyboard/mouse support correctly implemented stating they didnt have time for the pc.
>>323957403
A little overzealous on the timeline lets just say since the ps3.
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>>323957209
First of all, TW3 isn't a console port.
Most multiplats are actually ported from PC to console in fact.
And for FPS difficulty, that's irrelevant, it's like saying fighting games are too easy because they're easier to play with a controller than they are with a dance pad.
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This game is America's Final Fantasy 16.
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>>323957571
you actually believe this dont you. Thats sad. They design games to work around really underwhelming hardware. There is no way around this. Games that use any gpu at all do it becasue of graphic bloat thats tacked on. I'm looking at anything gameworks with that last statement.
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>>323957768
I'm sorry, do you actually think that most games are designed on consoles and ported to PC?
If so, you might be a bit slow in the head.
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>>323957571
how is it irrelevant? The games difficulty settings are blatantly set around the limitations of the controller.
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>>323942918
>>323943246
I play it a lot and I have a lot of fun with it. There can be a lot of variety in what can happen in a match and its glorious when you communicate perfectly with your team. Ranked is where the real game is at in my opinion. Casual is too short and lame.
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>>323957886
designed for consoles not on them. Optimized for consoles not PC.
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>>323944608
>because people were retarted/couldn't fight habits from other games they shoot you on sight anyway

This is why I cannot play any of these survival post apocalyptic games. I wish there was some sort of fix for people's assholery, sometimes I just want to run into randoms and have a chat about the state of the game world, but no, everyone just instantly starts shooting at you. It's so incredibly boring
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>>323942729
>>323942830
I don't know if this will stay the same at the release, but these screenshots look pretty good t bh. Seems like there's a nice cosy winter feeling to it.
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>>323957889
No, not really, otherwise older games with console versions would be just as braindead and easy as modern games.
The real truth is that modern games are aimed at literal retards.
>>323958007
>Optimized for consoles
Kek
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>>323958195
You dont know what optimization is I guess. It means it has to run on console hardware they fix the problem on pc by throwing inordinant ammounts of processing power at it.
>>323958195
the porting to console shit was in the past its now the other way around. And they only ported a few games to console and they were always gimped in a big way just to get them to work. Like Doom 64. Youre all ass backwards on this one anon. I know they tricked you just like they tricked me into upgrading my pc 4 years ago when they still designed games to work on computers. Theres only a couple left making games specifically for the power of the pc. Xcom 2 but only becasue it doesnt play well with a controller. and Star Citizen but thats crowdfunded so it doesn't count. Theres even cases of a Alpha game getting gutted just so it would work on console. Project Cars I'm looking at your shit.
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>>323956280
A pseudo-MMO. MMO elements without the constant MMO part.

If you pre-order you get into the beta, so you can cancel your pre-order and get into the beta anyways. The beta will decide whether the game is worth getting anyways.
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>>323958712
>It means it has to run on console hardware they fix the problem on pc by throwing inordinant ammounts of processing power at it.
And apparently you're blind and stupid considering a GTX 560 is outperforming both consoles in that image despite being on very high settings, and anyone with a brain knows that the 560 is objectively weaker than the PS4.
Ergo, the game is poorly-optimized on consoles.
>the porting to console shit was in the past its now the other way around.
Nope, quite a few games are still ported to consoles.
Examples: Assassin's Creed Black Flag, Battlefront, Battlefield 4/Hardline, Sniper Elite 3, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Dying Light, and quite a few more.
Sorry anon, but consoles are weaker than they've ever been, and the experience just isn't up to par.
Nevermind the fact that your entire argument is kind of a moot point since you can use just about any controller you like on PC.
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>>323959179
thats a bad example that game is a piece of garbage that doesnt play well on either pc or console.
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>>323959179
theres alot wrong with your post but Assasins creed is a console game. Its ban ham combat for fucks sake designed to be played with a controller. It doesnt matter what I say, I can tell your just going to bullshit for the remainder of the argument.
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>>323942917
You can turn them off any time in the options menu. No need to play on any given rank or list.
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>sale time
>decdied to get season pass for blackflag because fuck it why not?
>i got a retail copy of BF so i had to use uplay no matter what
>get a free beta code for The Division
>enter it
>"Sorry, the beta isn't available for your country."

T-thanks Ubisoft.
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>>323959425
>I don't like that game, so it's a bad example
Sounds about right.
>>323959582
>Assasins creed is a console game.
Nope, it's a PC game ported to consoles.
>designed to be played with a controller
Uhh no, it's designed to be played on whatever you want to play it on, and on PC that means everything from KB+M to DS3 to DS4 to a 360 controller to an Xbone controller to a WiiU Pro Controller.
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>>323954195
why its best to be patient and wait for sales.
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>>323960341
>sales
AAA games never go under 30 on sales until like a year later, especially AAA games that don't flop.

Always buy from a key reseller. Its like 50% off constantly even near release
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>>323936660
Since this could be considered a Tom Clancy thread, could any of you faggots recommend Ghost Recon Future Soldier? I hear the multiplayer has gone to shit bc of hackers, so is it worth it for the single player? Is the hardest difficulty actually hard?
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>>323960237
and the bullshit keeps going. Whatever kid I know you want to justify your brand new Gaming computer but its just not justifiable anymore. I havent owned a console since Nes becasue pc gaming was objectively better in every respect. Now its shit like Nvidia gimpqworks thats supposed to justify the cost of the hardware. Its physx all over again and the devs are sick of looking like shit because of that hardware manufactureres shenanigans. Making games run like shit. adding tessellation under the water and pretending it was for a reason other than graphical bloat. Nvidia destroyed the industry now devs have fucked off to develop for consoles and let nvidia shit all over the pc version.

Also assasins creed has and always will be a console port to pc.
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>>323960748
>could any of you faggots recommend Ghost Recon Future Soldier?
No.
Wasted Potential: The Game
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>>323960832
>M-MUH EVIL NVIDIA BOOGEYMAN IS RUINING PC!
Ahh, this is bait.
Well, 7/10, you do a great job of imitating an idiot.
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>>323960952
gimpworks is the definition of graphical bloat you faggot. God rays is just a layer of high contrast that they take slices out of in the shade to simulate sun shafts. Hairworks? fucking gay shit that ruins the games performance even when turned off. please anon stop being so stupid. Its worse for nvidia owners that own older cards but it still affects the overall optimization of the game just having a shit hardware developer try to implement experimental graphical bloat into your game. They are literally trying to make some console ports exclusive to nvidia owners alone. They have been cought red handed many times. I'm not just making shit up. It all started when physx was proprietary. gimpworks is the next iteration.
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>>323961489
>T-THEY'RE RUINING PC GAMING, CAN'T YOU SEE
4/10, you're losing me anon.
You need to craft your bait to be more believable than this, no one that would defend console gaming would have the balls to shit on Nvidia when consoles are full of corruption, shitty business practices, and moneyhatting.
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>>323961728
why must we fight?
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>>323960952
As a PC game dev, he's right. Nvidia is the fucking devil when it comes to PC gaming.

AMD supports open technologies while Nvidia is trying to close it off to push their own proprietary bullshit
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>>323963013
The true devil is Valve.
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>>323961728
They have been doing it since physx. I bought a shiny new gtx260 back in the day you know how many games that had physx in it back then? none. one special map for nvidia users on UTIII. Then it started showing up in a few games like borderlands 2. But my one year old card didnt have the power to use it and they already had a new card that could run it. Then portal two. that new card couldnt run it and I was supposed to upgrade once again jsut 2 years later to use the physx in that game. You too will learn. The next console that comes out will completely destroy the pc market becasue people will be fed up by then. Just like I am. I was happy just buying amd and disabling the features but they are now forced into all the new titles so fuck them. You see that pixelization arouhnd the tip of the gun thats gimpworks on high. Real nice tech, totally not a scam.
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>>323963764
>GTX 260
>One year old at the release of Borderlands 2
Come on anon, at least try.
2/10
Also
>1366x768
Kek
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>>323963897
it was only one year since I bought it.
>doesnt look at the problem and spouts a meme.
Well you have to hand it to them they do know their audience. They want the console crowd.
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>>323964041
>it was only one year since I bought it.

>Bought a 3 year old mid-ranged GPU in 2011
>Surprised when it can't run new games well with PhysX enabled
Serious question, are you retarded?
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>>323964210
it was $300 dollars back then. and that was crazy expensive for the time faggot. You are only justifying $600 dollar cards because you are the one who is in fact pants on head retarded.
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>drm uplay required
hahahaha
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>>323964210
Its a safe bet that this computer you are using now is in fact your first computer.
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>>323964332
>it was $300 dollars back then.
In 2011?
Make up your mind nigger, did you buy it one year before BL2 came out or did you buy it in 2008 when it first released?
Because right now it sounds like you're just spouting a bunch of bullshit.

Also, I've never once purchased a GPU that was over $300, even back when I bought my 8600 GT.
>>323964595
Nope, this probably my 3rd personal PC and my 6th overall (including 2 that I shared with my brother and 1 family PC), and even this PC has been upgraded a bit.
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>>323964697
It was a couple years after the card came out. I'm going from memory not googling everything and trying to point out small discrepancies in the argument while completely ignoring the argument being presented. I'm not going to engage in this argument anymore I can obviously tell I'm talking to a child. Enjoy your $1400 console game player though.
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>>323965020
>Get wrekt when it's obvious that you just made up a bunch of shit about a PC that you clearly never owned
>"E-ENJOY YOUR PORTS!"
Spoken like a true retard.
It's been fun m8, your b8 kept me entertained while I alt-tabbed in and out of BF4.
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>>323965020
now with more hair!
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>>323965165
because he cant remember exact timeframes? Seems more legit than someone that pretends he's memorized the release dates of every card and every game and has it ready to go off the top of his head.
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>gameplay is literally GRFS
>not a fucking peep of gameplay except some heavily scripted and controlled instances
>at the conventions where they have shown off the Division they have had to have a Ubisoft member at every single console/PC to make sure people didnt click the wrong things breaking the game

There is absolutely no doubt that this game is going to release a totally unfinished mess. Im betting on this being worse than the Unity release.
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>>323965367
>because he cant remember exact timeframes?
It's one thing to not remember the exact time.
To say that your 4-year old GPU was actually 1-year old tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about and you're either an idiot that bought a GPU that you knew nothing about or you're an idiot that just made some shit up and didn't actually know anything about the GPU you chose to falsify shit about.
Either way, he's an idiot.
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>>323965545
Says the Nvidiot.
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>>323965747
And now comes the kicker.
I own an AMD GPU.
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>>323965418
>peep
If you pre-ordered on the Xbone you got into the alpha last month, and this month has a basically-open beta.

The combat is GRFS though, plus skills.
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>>323965957
well then what the fuck were you arguing about. he's right about the proprietary addons they try to put into every release that will let them. They use shady tactics to try and create a monopoly at the expense of the devs and the consumers.
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>>323966374
>well then what the fuck were you arguing about.
I see you're lost, the argument wasn't originally about Nvidia being shit.
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>>323966429
It was about devs jumping ship to consoles. His point is Nvidia pushed them there.
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>>323966246
In regards of actual gameplay footage released by them in comparison to other Ubisoft games there has been hardly anything.

Which is just a sure fire sign something is wrong
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>>323966714
Right, but that's false.
There are arguably more devs on PC nowadays than there have ever been.
He might have had a point if it was 2007, but it's 2016.
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>>323941165
FUCK
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So when's the beta?
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>>323966828
I guess if you include indie crap but there is a huge lack of actual Pc developers. Developers that make games that cant run on consoles.
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>>323967112
rumor is, around the end of january
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>>323966786
You are comparing it to Ubisoft games that have become super formulaic, like Far Cry and AC.

I remember 1 trailer from 2013 which was the announcement, another from 2014, and several from 2015 aka closer to release. Obviously a game that was super far from release till 2015 which it was delayed from to 2016 wouldn't have as much footage as easy to put out FC or AC games.

>>323967112
Sometime this month, supposedly the 29th according to some leaked shit.
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>>323967149
>but there is a huge lack of actual Pc developers.
First of all, define "actual."
Secondly, there's a huge lack of non-indie developers on every platform.
And frankly, there's no such thing as a game that "can't run on consoles."
Every game can run on every platform with enough tweaking and player input (mainly in changing control input methods).
If devs wanted to, the could easily put RTS games on consoles, just look at Tropico 5.
Thing is, they don't, because people don't want to play RTS games on consoles, not because consoles can't run them.
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>>323966828
Hey, curious, how would we check that? I mean, it's gotta be true, but, do we even have good records of old devs? We still can't find some old games, lost forever since no one really keeps old tapes, like VCR. Always makes me wonder what's forever gone, ya know?
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>>323942831

What are the downgrades?

Sorry, but I haven't been following this game.
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>>323967725
A lot of people really only focus on the big-name devs.
For instance, when people think about PC devs, they'll think of devs like Paradox, Westwood, and Creative Assembly, not the huge group of people who sat in their basements and worked on open-source games like the vast majority of MUDs.
For instance, HellMOO.
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>>323967418
well the design them to run on consoles first even when the ps3 was out there were computer games that wouldn't run on consoles this is a new phenomenon with the new consoles and not everyone is buying it. considering consoles are toasters compared to enthusiast pc's.
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>>323967953
Tl;dr the usual, graphics, animation. The trailer looks like a movie it's that good, right? Because it is. Some dude leaked some beta footage on v a while ago and it was not nearly as impressive looking and very much more by the numbers third person shooter.
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>>323942076
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>>323968147
>well the design them to run on consoles first
No, not really, they design them to run on all kinds of hardware.
This is like saying that Crysis was designed to run on an Intel GMA 4500 just because it CAN run Crysis.
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>>323968403
Steam machines are kicking consoles butt right now. the days of high-end gaming are over.
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>>323943246
>>323947190
Which epsiode was this?
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>>323968180
The 2013 original gameplay is the exact same as the new gameplay, it was always a by the numbers TPS cover game. I think textures were a noticeable downgrade, but some of the new teasers look way better than the alpha footage from last month.

I didn't see anyone test the shooting through shit or the close-door-while-on-car thing from the 2013 footage. That'll be something to do in the beta
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>>323967347
The game is one month from release and we have fucking nothing to look at

Thats a sign its shit, end of discussion.
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>>323936660
They released a new trailer 3 days ago so I'm 90% sure Beta starts next week.
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>>323969574
They just released a new 3-4 minute video and were posting small ~30 second clips for the past month.
You are forgetting there is going to be a non-NDA beta in that month, which everyone can look at finally and decide.

The gameplay hasn't changed in the past year from the first time I played it to all the leaked videos to the newest stuff
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Anybody know if the Tablet stuff is still in the game? probably won't bother with it but I'd still like to know
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>>323970920
Nope, they cut that like a year ago.
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>>323970962
I can actually appreciate that. Instead of releasing a half baked or shit idea they cut it out.
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>>323972259
Actually what happened was the team with the tablet always won PvP situations so the cut it. Of course there could've been other reasons behind the scenes but that's the main reason for it.
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>>323937231
>Any ghost recon after future soldier
>interesting
>ubisoft open world game
>interesting
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>>323972869
Well done, friend. Truly the pinnacle of memes.
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