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Which one are you getting?
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neither
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>>323935718
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Conquest
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>He doesn't have both versions translated on his 3ds already
Nice job faggot
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>>323936014
>translated
lmao
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>Playing Fire Emblem games post Awakening
Fire Emblem is dead.
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>>323935718
I will pirate all 3
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>>323936014
(lol
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>>323936267
From the incomplete and untested 3rd route that was only released FOR testing, meme harder my friend. Hoshido and Nohr translations are serviceable.
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>>323936014
>Look at me I use CFW, guys I'm so cool I pirated a video game!
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I'm getting the special edition
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>>323935718
Both, I managed to get the SE.
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All three
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>>323936409
>Hoshido and Nohr translations are serviceable.
They read like they were written by an 8 year old with English as a second language. The writing is elementary school level.
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>>323936496
I wish I did. Looks like I'm going to have to pay $150-200 to get it... Or I won't
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Planning on ordering SE once it becomes orderable in Yurop.
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>waifu emblem

Only actual enjoyment I get from FE is using Roy in Smash.
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>>323935718

Waiting until I can find a used SE for a reasonable price. Knowing scalpers it probably won't be easy.
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>>323936409
"serviceable"
Do you stop and read what you type occasionally?
because if you did you'd be way ahead of the translation team you seem to like so much
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>>323936645
I managed to get mine on 11/13. That's bullshit if you ordered after that date especially since they let that since like that for a month.
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>>323936717
that's much better than treehouse fanfiction
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The one with the purple haired tittymonster assuming the game is uncensored.
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>>323935718

Both, and then Revelations.
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>Sells the storylines as separate games
>The cannon story is dlc
>Proves they could have fit all 3 on 1 cartridge the entire time
>Only makes an extremely limited amount of them
>Months later people are finding out they have to get a refund if they waited too long to pre-order the SE one

Nintendo why? At least use lube if you're going to fuck me/
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Birthright has an okay story and okay gameplay
Conquest has a fucking godawful story and good gameplay
Invisible Kingdom has an awful story and bad gameplay

Pick your poison.
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why would i get birthright
conquest has wrestlewoman and wolfboy
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>>323937505
Birthright's story was, by no means, good. Not as shit as Nohr, but still shit.
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>>323936893

lel
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>>323937525
Birthright has

I dunno, the option to grind EXP and money. All the interesting characters are locked to Nohr.
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>>323937921
>the option to grind EXP and money

but only Awakeningfags want that
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>>323935835
Me too. Buying it then downloading the third route.
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I am a bit torn on it myself. I'll probably get Conquest because of the more interesting plot choices, but Birthright lets you lesbo marry Not-Tharja, so I may go for that one instead.
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I don't know how to feel about this game. I like the series but not enough to get three fucking versions. I didn't bother with Awakening's DLC either, felt like the game was long enough.

Might purchase them if there's a bundle for the price of one, or something like that.
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Both, but I'll do Hoshitters first before Nohrmie. Keep the difficulty consistent.
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All three for free.
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>>323935718
is the gameplay any fucking different from awakening?
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>>323936717
treehouse shills are out in force
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>>323938212
See >>323936645
>>323938383
Nohr plays like older FEs.
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>>323938283
Oh boy.
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I pirated the game with the English translation. As someone who played each of the original western fire emblem games throughout my childhood, and found awakening to be mediocre, I'm having a lot of fun

I'll still be buying the special edition when it comes to America
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>>323936929
Blame nintendo. Bestbuy over sells so I could understand those getting cancelledbut GS normally leaves a good 5-20% of stock unsold for either damaged goods(UPS fucks up) or to jew out later and sell it bundled with the guide/some stupid shit.

If GS had to cancel orders you know nintendo dropped the allotment lower than originally stated
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>>323938753
>I'll still be buying the special edition when it comes to America

It's apparently been up for pre-order for a long ass time but you had to be quick about it because of this >>323936645

So unfortunately you're going to have to pay out of the ass for it by some scalper piece of shit on eBay.
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>>323938905
They're going to add more copies eventually obviously
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>>323938875
It kills me how they clearly don't give a fuck about shit like this. I mean yeah it's called Special Edition for a reason but still.
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>>323939012
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All 3. Got the SE
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>>323936410
>Look at me I'm a moralfag, guys I'm so cool I buy 3DS games!
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>>323939071
Can't I buy a digital copy too?
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>>323939302
That's now how limited/special editions of things work anon.
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Both

I'm calling my Gamestop right fucking now because I got that shit exactly at 11/18.
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>>323935718
can someone explain me the differences between the 3 of them?
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>>323935846
While I agree that the whole thing is shitty, I think using the special edition cart as evidence because all three can fit on the cart is shitty reasoning.

Storage capacity isn't an argument in the modern age. They can fit hundreds of gigabytes on an SD card the size and thickness of my fingernail, I don't think a 3DS cart would be much if any more difficult.
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>>323939707
>Birthright (Hoshido)
These are the people that are related to you by blood and are from your homeland. Easier gameplay due to being able to grind exp.

>Conquest (Nohr)
Your adopted family who took you in to raise you. More difficult gameplay due to no grinding, more of a raw FE experience.

>Revelations (Invisible Kingdom)
This is the 3rd storyline where you're neutral and is apparently cannon. This however is DLC.
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>>323939707
Story and gameplay differences.

Birthright is easier but "open-world"

Conquest is harder and more like classic FE(no money/exp grinding)

Exclusive classes
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Best Buy is going to have the special edition the day of release
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The undub
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>>323939707
Outside of story, characters, and item availablility(think pokemon)

Birthright is standard FE
Conquest is harder since most maps have very few units. You don't have free battles so every last piece of gold counts as well as your exp.
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>>323937256
>He still thinks cartridge space is an issue

It's not 1995 anymore buddy.
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>>323940234
That was my point. I wasn't arguing against it my friend.
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>>323940217
>Birthright is standard FE
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I pirated it mr shill... it is uncensored like most of the fanbase want it.
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>>323940217
Birthright is more like an "Awakening" experience.
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>>323940363
Started playing FE with sacred stones. If I was wrong shoot me
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>>323940217
>Birthright is standard FE
What? Did you start with Awakening?
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>>323939983
>>323940028
>>323940217

thx senpais. and the special edition contains both in one cartridge? (dlc too?)
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>>323938283
>fucking nigger
>thief

Kill yourselves pirates.
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>>323940621
Yes.

That's if you ordered before 11/18
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>>323940569
Funny you say that because Sacred Stones was a "Grinding" style FE game. How ironic. Essentially but a couple FE's don't have moments where you can power level your people.
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>>323940569
Out of the games and outside of the Hoshido path, Sacred Stones is the one that is most often compared to Awakening. Most of the games don't work like those 3.
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>>323935846
>a cart that contained all three
>LE has the two physical games and a code for the DLC
Was this poster retarded?
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>>323940726
>Essentially all* but a couple
woops
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>>323940726
>>323940770
So I just so happened played the wrong one from the start.

Not complaining since it was a free ambassador game
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>>323936410
>look at me, I'm a faggot and I care about what other people think in a brazilian rom pirating blogspot!
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The weird part is, regardless of which game you choose, both games are exactly the same for the first six missions, and then, even though you made your choice when you purchased it, the game still presents you with the option to go Hoshido or Nohr.

That just feels bizarre to me. Why give me the choice when I've already made my choice?
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>>323940621
>and the special edition contains both in one cartridge?
No. It's similar to the Pokemon thing where the two games were in the one box.
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>>323940880
Sacred Stones isn't necessarily a wrong FE, and Awakening isn't a wrong FE either they're just more open with how grindable they can be. Most FE games go from chapter to chapter with no world map to do random skirmishes on to raise your units.
>>323941015
Pretty sure that's for if you download the other paths.
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>>323940880
It's not that you played the "wrong" one or anything. Just in your typical FE experience when you go through the game you have to be deadset on who you want to use because exp, money, and things like that are limited as there's no stopping to grind or farm items to sell. What you get through the game is all you get.
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>>323941015
You can buy the other paths as DLC from that menu
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>>323941015
That's if you downloaded the other game.
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>>323940830
I'm not sure where you got that info from seeing as the gamestop page directly says on it that all 3 games are on 1 cart.
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>Nohr is invading Hoshido, and is lead by an evil tyranical dictator
>you learn this before the games split
>If you buy Conquest, you have no idea when you first pop the game in, but you know full well by the time you actually get to the cart-exclusive content
>Nintendo traps you into aiding a known tyrannical dictator

THAT'S the real tragedy here.
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Nohr because I hear it's the harder route.
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>>323935846
>RD
>42 chapters
>$50
>$1.19 per chapter

>Fates
>93 chapters
>$80 for all three versions (SE is technically cheaper since it also comes with an art book)
>$0.86 per chapter

You're actually getting ripped off more if you only buy one version of Fates, which is ~$0.90. Though only getting two versions is ~$0.83.
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>>323942875
>50 dollars

Boy where you be buying your games from? Unless it's an atlus game it's 40 dollars starting price
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>>323942840
Playing it now, its hilarious how much harder it was than awakenings hard.
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>>323935718
Ideally waltz into local retailer on launch date at just the right time to see them finish stocking the Special Editions.

If not then Conquest.
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>>323943016
RD was 50$ at release.
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>>323939707
One has better waifus than the others
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>>323935718
filthy gaijin version
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Tell me which one to get, I don't have the time to play both.
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>>323944493
If you want a harder/older FE experience, Nohr. If you want an easier more Awakening experience, Hoshido.
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>>323935718
Red is my favorite color, so obviously I'm getting Birthright.
I also heard Birthright is the harder of the two, so bonus.
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>>323944583
>>323944901
???
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>>323944901
>Birthright is the harder of the two, so bonus.
It's the opposite. I don't know who whispered in your ear and told you these lies, but they were wrong.
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>>323945068
Birthright is easier Conquest is harder.
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I don't even remember who's who in the Hoshido side.
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>>323944901
FE difficulty rankings if you aren't a casual and are an experienced FE player:

Hardest:
Nohr, FE12

Hard:
FE5, FE6

Just right:
FE3, FE7, PoR, RD, IK

Easy:
FE1, FE2, FE4, FE11

Lol:
FE8, FE13, Hoshido
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>>323945559
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>>323945567
It's been a while since I've played 12 but I'm extremely skeptical of it being in "Hardest".
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>>323935718
I already bought Nohr in Japanese.
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>>323945834
There's no method to cheese the game unlike in FE5 where you can warp skip, and FE6 is primarily difficult because of low hit rates. FE12 doesn't give you viable units as the game goes on unlike most FE games, and even the avatar, the most powerful unit in FE12, isn't as good as people like Percival or Rutger.
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>>323935718
Both because I can't purchase them separately in my country
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>>323945567
>FE 5
>Only Hard
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>>323938905

ooooooor you can just buy it Day 1 like the rest of us they are cancelling scalperfags that tried to order 20 of them and will have a few (count less than 3) per store for nonpreorders. Some managerfag that's a waifu emblem autist told me so.
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>>323946757
You should try and post a chapter you can't warp skip if you want to make that argument again.
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>>323943262

and now it's 80 plus now what's your point?

not to mention Path of Radiance is now 150+ dollars now due to limited runs and poor sales.

Life is suffering to be an Ikefag.
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>>323946757
Scroll Abuse makes the game easy.
Warp Abuse makes it a laugh

Though I feel that there should be a distinction between "Nohr" and "Nohr with DLC"

Since while the EXP DLC is tedious, the Money DLC is easy enough to abuse to significantly suck the difficulty out since you just have to make enough money to buy a unit who can solo the Money DLC Map and then you're set
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I pre-oredered both but I will sell the shitty Nohr one when Nintendo inevitably prints 1000 copies to create artificial scarcity.
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Wait, you can't replay missions in Conquest? Like half the time I spend with these games is post-game replaying maps with different party combinations.
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bought conquest. literally 0 reason to get birthright unless you have shit taste in characters and want to make the game even easier for yourself.
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>>323947947

the individual games are in no fear of being short stocked. It's just the limited edition that people are freaking out about.
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>>323945743
God damn Nohr is full of smug bastards.
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>>323948132
That's because Conquest/Nohr is like older FE's where grinding is at a minimum.
>>323947947
>shitty Nohr
What?
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>>323947694
>and now it's 80 plus now what's your point?
You should actually look at what people are talking about before commenting on things randomly. RD being more expensive now just shows how much of a better buy all three versions of Fates are than it already was at RD's base release price of $50.
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>>323935718
>not a monster hunter
No thank you.
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>>323948361
>grinding
Wow, that's retarded.
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>>323946757
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>>323948512
In reference to what? Nohr being minimal on it or Awakening, Sacred Stones, Hoshido being able to do it?
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>>323948361

You mean, because they wanted to sell the grindable maps as extra DLC.
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>>323948684
The only DLC that allows grinding is literally the one map made for grinding, and the difficulty scales with the point you are in the game. People complain that the grinding map is too difficult, even.
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>>323948684
I mean that's technically true. But in terms of the base game, Nohr isn't meant to be grindable like Awakening/Hoshido are according to ISIS.
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>Playing censored games
>2015 + 1
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>>323948650
Nobody cares about what Sacred Stones did. If you didn't notice, these games have pretty much abandoned the design philosophy of the GBA games, especially when it comes to grinding. If the reason why they removed repeatable missions is because they want to hawk their grinding DLC then that's to be expected, except for the part where you can easily make missions repeatable without allowing them to reward EXP.

And no, this has nothing to do with difficulty. The game has a play option that makes all of your units literally invincible, there's no more usage limits on weapons, and the fog of war is gone completely. Any other erxcuse for removing it is gone.
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>>323948937
I'm going to buy censored games and give them good reviews and there's nothing you can do about it :^)
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>>323938283
lol, nigger. But that aside how do you like the sky3ds? I don't really care for pirating 3ds games, but I'd like to play emulated games. does it run homebrew emulators? What about the R4?

>inb4 CFW

Did both my o3ds and n3ds, then just reupdated them. Too much hassle, and I wanted my mh3-4U from the eshop
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>>323948937
i will support any developer who censors your waifus out of my games.
:^)
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>>323948937
If it turns out to be censored Im just going to pirate it with the fan translation.
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>>323935718

Both since the Special Edition is nowhere to be found.

Currently playing the shoddy translated version while I wait for the NA release.
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If I don't see MGSV on sale by the time FEFates releases, I'll pick it up. The weeb version.
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>>323948937
You know...

I fucking hate censoring.

But I fucking hate waifu shit.

I don't know what to do anymore.
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>>323949243
well, I'm not buying it, and I'll have fun playing something else :^)
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>>323949405
The shoddily translated version is probably going to be better than the Treehouse version.
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>>323948937
I thought Fog of War is present in IK? And I meant grindable in the way that Sacred Stones has a world map/Tower of Valni/Lagdou Ruins.
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>>323949490
Considering that:

1. Most supports aren't translated
2. There are a lot of errors in it
3. No character endings are translated
4. All the video dialogue isn't translated and likely never can be
5. The team has already said they plan on not working on it any longer

I doubt it. If they never release another translation patch, it certainly will be much worse off.
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Pre-ordered the SE in the nick of time, gonna go with Nohr though. I mean come on how could I betray the people who raised me?
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FUCK GAME STOP
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>>323935718
both routes bait you into playing the other and the third route

its 100% jew tactic so make sure to pirate it or pirate the jap version and play fan translation now
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I'm really fucking disappointed that the story is once again trash. Path of Radiance spoiled the shit out of me I guess.

>>323945743
Are the neutral characters the ones available in all 3 routes, or are they IK/Revelation only?
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>>323938283
those gross fucking nails
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>>323949571
>I thought Fog of War is present in IK?

Yes and no. Rather than just being able to see your units in a set area, you clear your way through the unknown to open more of the map. This is done in 2 chapters, the latter one being extra specially obnoxious.
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>>323949490

(lol
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>>323949490
That's a good one (lol
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>>323950127
>you clear your way through the unknown
Like Thracia FoW?
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>>323949405
Both physical? I thought most people would be doing this. You'd only miss out on is that book and the pouch.
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>>323936645
>Reserved on 11/17
Holy fuck really riding the line there.
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Still no news on Europe's release. This is going to be like RD where we have to wait 13 months after the Japs, and 4 after the yanks
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>>323935718

i will try to get the special edition but if i cant i will get the 2 physical versions one of each
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>>323950790
Both physical + the third part DLC is $20 more expensive than the special edition not including Amazon/Best Buy 20% discount which you can't apply on the third part outside of the special edition.
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>>323951097
Good luck on that.
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>>323949214
Birthright and Revelation both allow you to grind freely; Conquest is the only one where you can't do that, and even then you get access to a few free battles outside of the main story (around 6 I think).

>Phoenix mode
Made for people like Hamburger Helper who hate playing video games, and it's not available for Hard or Lunatic runs

>Infinite use weapons
Most of them now have penalties associated with using them. Bronze weapons are piss-weak but make it easier to not get crit, Steels require you to have more speed to double, Silvers will reduce your stats after each battle and make it easier for you to get crit, Braves lower your defenses after a battle, etc.

>FoW
>>323950127
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>>323949285
That's not him, he stole that picture.
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>>323936645
>Called my gamestop this morning
>I'm the only one who ordered it in the city
>He assured me i'll be getting it

Went from almost shitting my pants to a sigh of relief.
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>>323951097
>if i cant i will get the 2 physical versions one of each
Please note that to unlock stuff in the game you need one physical version and then get the DLCs or the Special Edition. Having both carts makes it so you lose on the number of save slots, you don't get the bonus promotional items and your renown doesn't carry over.
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Conquest and Revelations when it comes out. I do not see a good reason to buy Birthright.
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>>323936645
WHAT THE FUCK!? I preordered on 11/19. I haven't received any calls. My preorder is still showing on my order history. I better get my special edition. I'm gonna be so fucking mad if gamestop fucks this up.
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Why would I buy a censored product?
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>>323951575
So you never bought a Nintendo game in your life?
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>>323950645
Havent played Thracia yet, backlog's a bitch. Here's the 1st of those maps which is closer to FoW than the 2nd
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>>323951886
And what it looks like by the end
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>Censored

(lol
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>>323935718
>mfw people will actually pay for the same (censored) game being sold as two different copies

Enjoy not being able to hear glorious Felicia japanese voice.
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>>323952108
>Being this deluded and ignorant
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>>323951886
>>323952042
looks to be still a big step up from Awakening gameplay wise

Awakening was a bunch of mediocre parts making up a decent game, Fates doesn't seem to be as great as say FE9 or FE4 but it's still day 1 buy material for me
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>>323951554
call 'em nigga

CALL EM
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>>323952303
>Giving (you)s to weebs.
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>>323952108

I'm a buyfag,
gotta have those physical copies...
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>>323952320
Gameplay wise, it fixes every problem Awakening had, with the only thing about it being close to game breaking is how OP Ryouma is in Hoshido. It's certainly much better than FE9 and FE4 from a gameplay perspective, especially in Nohr.
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Can you use imported copy of fates with the fan-translation?
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>>323952328
No I don't want to know my fate. They added the keychain to my preorder so maybe I can still steal some other nigga's spot on the preorder queue. We'll just see in february.
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>>323952108
Awakening had dual audio.
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>>323952640
>fate
Was this intentional?
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>>323952739

>Thinking they will include dual audio now

(lol
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>>323952741
No, didn't notice until you said it.
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>>323952320
It is in most respects. Even Hoshido which is boring as sin is at least a little better than Awakening. The issue with it and IK though is the AI is dumb as rocks and simple enough to predict and abuse, whereas with Nohr they're devious bastards. That said, part of the reason for that is the Nohr AI have a healthy amount of skills to work with in order to fuck with you. No bullshit like Counter and Luna on everything but actually decently thought out and well placed ones to make otherwise simple things require a second look.
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>>323952453
>Special edition
>Artbook and game case uses hoshido and not both/something special
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>>323953192

you can't,

NoA will always be like this.
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>>323953176
It is both anon. It's basically the big promo art without Aqua .
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>>323953176
>Artbook and game case uses hoshido and not both/something special
It's reversible with Nohr on the other side. For the artbook case, the back cover is Nohr. If you hold the book open it looks like the Special Edition casing that you see on that very pic.
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>>323952516
I hope the characters are a little better than in Awakening too, I found it very difficult to pick a spouse in Awakening because the characters were all so flat

>>323953057
I was planning on getting Conquest anyway, that's good to hear, though by Devious AI I assume it's like in Awakening Lunatic where they just dogpile on the weakest unit within range?

In older games enemies would retreat when they were hurt to use vulneraries etc, I miss that
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>Xenoblade X censored Lin outfits, a adult outfit and the artbook
>People seriously believe NoA will let this game come over censored free

Oh I'm laughing so hard at you fucking treehouse dicksuckers
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>>323953484
>I hope the characters are a little better than in Awakening too, I found it very difficult to pick a spouse in Awakening because the characters were all so flat
They kind of still one-note if they're not a royal.
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>>323953508
What was censored in the artbook?
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>>323953192
>Censored Xenoblade X outfit
>while leaving more risque outfit intact
>Fates
>Changes english name into engrish
NoA man, they just do random shit for no reason.
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>all these people bashing the fan translation

it's not amazing but it's mainly due to the fact that the source material is absolute garbage. this is easily one of the worst written FE games in the entire series (Nohr is especially flat out bad)

really bad, even for FE standards
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Aren't some of you who are just in the thread to shitpost/pick a fight tired of doing this just about every thread?
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>>323953484
The AI in Fates ignores enemies they can't hurt and will retreat to recover if the option is available, but usually they won't have to since there will be a healer around somewhere.
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>>323953903
>Changes english name into engrish

Which name? Localizers sometimes do this to make a name sound more fantasy-like and exotic, since English names are probably fairly exotic in Japan already
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>>323936645
>preordered on 11/16
Phew. I was sweating bullets for a second
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>>323954141
Most famous one is Belka into Beruka.
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>>323954093
Is Nohr worse than Awakening?

I love how in Awakening everyone ignores the literal zombie apocalypse happening within 3 chapters.
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>>323954141
Belka > Beruka
Beruka is an actual name though.
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Gimmicks you will encounter on Nohr maps

>Reach more villages than the enemy. If the enemy reaches a village, enemy units will spawn. If you reach a village, those enemy units won't spawn. If you get a majority of the villages, you get a prize.
>You have a set number of turns to clear a map. In yours and the enemy way are "Pots" that need to be broken to progress. However some pots give positive effects when broken, while others given negative
>Indoor maps now have staircases that take
you to different sections of the map
>You start the map with 10000 Gold. You must talk to 4 different NPCs on the map to find out which one is the thief. Each extra turn you take loses you a total amount of the gold you get at the end of the map
>The map is covered with traps that damage your units when crossing. Units with Locktouch take no damage from them AND can disable them on their turn so they don't damage your units
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>>323935718
All of them

But I ain't payin a penny
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>>323954508
You neglected to mention the phantoms
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>>323954508
None of these appear to be a problem for me. I like the gimmicks.
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Are the amiibo characters legit playable/recruitable units?
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>>323953484
By devious I mean they tend not to pick horribly one sided fights that will end in their deaths and nothing accomplished for them. Occasionally they will but sometimes they'll go up to a unit that will stomp them and just not attack. They abuse Attack Stance dual strikes like no tomorrow, as well as dicking you with after battle debuff skills. They tend to travel in packs, so even if one of your units is very capable they could still get fucked just from the nature of which the AI moves. Its not 100% infallible but its noticeably different from the other 2 routes.

There's one child paralogue for a Nohr kid where I wanted to aggro a few heroes in the middle of the map, but in doing so it triggered every single remaining enemy on the map to begin to converge on that location. The remaining ones alsp happened to all be mounts of some kind and there was at least 15 of them. That wasnt a fun time.
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>>323941279
wait what? i thought the LE came with both versions.
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>>323954508
You forgot some other notable chapters

>defend mission with units spawning every other turn and the layout changing midway
>an enemy defend mission where you have to snake through a path while being bombarded by ballista
>a FE9 Ike vs. Black Knight-ish map as one of the final maps but luckily can be cheesed
>escape map with infinite reinforcements that give 0 exp
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>Buying censored, full of meme references shit no thanks to Treehouse
>any year
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>>323939302
The Special Edition is $80 MSRP. Digital is $40 for one game, then $20 for each of the other paths. So it's all the same.
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>>323954461
>Is Nohr worse than Awakening?
The problem with Fates story in general is that it very clearly follows the sort of plot line you'd expect a manga to follow instead of a game. As a result, the story is more defined by individual instances than the overall experience and the plot moves very episodically over one long arc.

The other problem is that it isn't really what was initially advertised. People expected Nohr to be about changing the country from within as what we were told it would be, but that is instead not what the story is at all. The route being called Conquest is actually a much more appropriate name.

Frankly, most of the stuff I'd heard about Nohr's plot before playing it turned out to be completely wrong and I still see people posting wrong information about it occasionally, so there's that issue as well, but Nohr's sub plots and underlying elements are definitely better than it's main story.
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>>323945743

WHY CAN YOU FUCK YOU FRIENDS' CHILDREN? This has been bothering the piss out of me, but I really don't want to spoil this game for myself
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>>323955625
Not with Amazon Prime or Best Buy GCU..
$64 vs $72 & no art book or pouch
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>>323954947
The new AI isn't perfect, but it's still much better then Awakening.

Another thing I like is how enemies have various skills that make you think about how to approach them. Archer's late game will often have counter, making melee attacks risky unless you can kill them in one hit. "Cut through" is a skill that swaps you and whoever you attack after battle, another skill certain enemies use. It's really interesting how you have to approach some groups of enemies just because of the skills they have equipped.

>>323955407
Another one

>Map has varying wind currents that will shift your units 5 spaces upwards or downwards. If a unit is pushed into a space without ground they simply move until the hit a space that does, potentially right next to a massive group of enemies.
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>>323955407
>a FE9 Ike vs. Black Knight-ish map as one of the final maps but luckily can be cheesed
You mean the final map right?
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>>323943016
Console games were not always 59.99
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>>323955948
Oh wow that's neat. Sounds like they're really bringing the challenge back.
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>>323955625
>Awakening still costs $40 MSRP
>Fates will cost $40 for 3/7 main story + $20 other 3/7 of main story + 20$ 1/7 of main story
>Fates $80 MSRP
They wonder why people pirate.
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>>323955856
Because the children are almost all adult age and free to do what they want, and it's a medieval world so it can be assumed people marry early
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>>323955710
>Most the stuff I heard about Nohr's plot turned out wrong

Does Aqua try and "expose" Garon and remain undiscovered simply because she was wearing a veil despite her long blue hair flowing freely in that scene and her power over water that is demonstrate when she sings?

Does Aqua also manage to pull out a magic crystal that shows Kamui Garon's true form and then suddenly shatters?

Does Kamui decide that rather than more of those crystals and inform his siblings who he sided with Nohr over Hoshido for, he completely keeps his mouth shut and decides to launch an invasion on Hoshido for the hope that Garon will sit on the throne and be revealed?

Does Kamui not even clue his Hoshido siblings in of his intentions despite having a literal moment of privacy with both of Ryouma's retainers in which he could have passed a note to Ryouma of the truth, followed by the chapter afterwards in which all of his Nohr family, and all of his Hoshido family are gathered in the palace of a Seer whose vision in the Invisible Kingdom is what convinces Takumi to side with him?

Does Garon not give the order to Macbeth to "hurt Kamui, make him suffer but don't kill him"

Is the existence of the Invisible Kingdom never explored or expanded on after the one chapter you go there for?

Does the fact that you and your siblings kill Garon where there are no witnesses defeat the point of the fact that you wanted to expose Garon being a slime to the Nohrian army so they don't turn on you?
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>>323955948
>Cut Through Counter Archers in ch23

The worst. Chapter 23 is honestly a work of art but god damn did I hate every enemy in it. Execution needed to be flawless at all times otherwise you'd be fucked.
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>>323950045
this. i don't even care that you're black, you're just gross for having those nails.
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>cant save before the final chapter of conquest
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All three mang
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>>323945743
>catgirls

just take my money
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>>323956568
Or they don't care because >>323942875
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>>323957160
They're a fox and a werewolf(?)
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>>323956984
At least the chapter before it is criminally easy. Fuck the endgame on lunatic though, that is some bullshit.
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>>323957160
They're fox and wolf girls.
Their personalities are terrible.

They're both idiots, one being a Nowi Style personality and one being a Dadcon who loves literal garbage and thinks of it as art.
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>waiting on australia release date
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>>323940631
>fucking nigger
>thief

The chimpout at Baltimore should tell you: Being thieves is all a dindu good at.
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>>323956607
Yes, your post does look like one of the ones that intentionally spin things to look worse than they are and ignore finer details in the story, while acting like their own hypothetical situations are even possible or would 100% work.
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>>323949405
Is Relevation only digital?
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>Paying $80 for censored content that took a year to arrive in the US
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>>323958038
Hard to say, since the Amazon description says its on the physical device but plenty of sources contradict that. Since you're suppose to have access to the DLC two-weeks early, it'll likely be on special edition, partially at very least.
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>>323957472
Flannel actually turned out to be one of my best units, I never did get his daughter, so no idea about her though. His HP, attack and defense were off the chart though, he was wrecking shit left and right.
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Wait, so if I want all three I'll have to preorder one of the games with both Conquest and Birthrate AND preorder the revelations DLC? Are all three being released on the same date? I'm a little confused about all this.

Don't really care about the artbook or pouch just kinda want the games. Even then the Special Edition is out of stock.
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>>323936645
>reserved 11/17/15
Good thing I reserved it on a whim that day.

Still not sure which one I'll do first. Nohr was my first pick and has both the gameplay and the waifus, but maybe it'll be smarter to do Awakening 2.0 first.
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Convince me to grind supports for joker and hinata to get their shitty sons. I usually try to get every unit I can but I have no motivation for them.
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>>323958328
Velour is Flannel on steroids m8. Easily one of the best main game kids, she's actually fucking insane.
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>>323958517
Special Edition comes with all 3.

If you can't get that buy Conquest OR Birthright physically, then download the other. Buying both of them physically wont let you have all the same saves on the same game.

Or you go digital for all 3.
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>>323957883

sorry anon but the story is even worse than how that anon described

every situation is so fucking contrived and hamfisted it hurts to watch. this happens a lot in hoshido as well but to a lesser degree
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>>323958786
Good to know, I'll grab her for sure when I do my IK route
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So is the story shit, mediocre, good, or great?

I guess, how does it compare to Genealogy?
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>>323958970
better
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>>323958970
Shitocre.
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>>323939983
>These are the people that are related to you by blood
Wrong, they are your actual step-family. Your mom married to that family and your step-dad died protecting you while your older step-brother escaped the ambush.

>Your adopted family who took you in to raise you.
Wrong again, after you were kidnapped and your step-dad was killed their dad threw you into a tower with servants and these new "family" were told you were one of them.
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>>323949405
is this a joke it says at the end of this year?????????
are we getting the dlc at the end of THE FUCKING YEAR
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I'd go for Nohr if any. Too bad I consider the entire full game too expensive and am not enough of an FE fan that I will probably end up buying Bravely Default with some free 1/4th price discount I got last month.
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>>323958970

people only say genealogy had a good story because the rest of the series has fucking terrible story. i think genealogy's story is alright at best

hoshido's story is fairly standard FE: underdog kingdom fighting against the evil empire, while nohr's story is outright bad
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Hope they sell Revelation as a complete game in digital. I really don't want to kill my family, senpai.
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>>323959312
Well thank you for correcting me. I'm happy to have been bestowed the truth by someone such as yourself. Thank you so much. I'll never be able to repay this debt.
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Can you afford Charlotte /v/?
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>>323952640
good luck, anon.
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>>323959774
You were never raised by the Nohr royals since they lived on a separate castle and only visited you from time to time, technically your "real" family consists of Felicia (the clumsy maid), Flora (the blue maid who betrays you in Hoshido and joins late in Nohr/Revelations), Gunter (the old Jeigan guy) and Jakob (the butler who is obsessed with you).

You were fed scraps and shit until Gunter took pity on you and gave you his share of food until Flora, Felicia and Jakob arrived later.
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>>323950045
>>323956848
Spotted the closet fags
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>>323959740
Well they do. If you can't get the limited edition then the only way to get Revelation is digital.
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>>323960183
thanks for spoiling the game
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>>323957883
I wasn't asking your fucking opinion.

I was asking you if those events happened or not. Can you say with 100% honesty that none of those events occur?
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>>323960763
Well, you did ask about Fates' family dynamics.

Your real biological little sister is a fish who dies in all routes and your real father is the final boss in Revelations.

He's a good guy whose evil dragon form took over similar to how Earth dragons go mad and evil in older Fire Emblem games, gone mad and split into two separate entities where his good side died earlier before the actual game begins and after sending the Awakening children over to Nohr to follow Corrin in whatever decision he upholds (they forget about it anyway and don't join you in Hoshido and arrives late in Revelations) and after purging the evil within your sister and sent her to your way.
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>>323942448
Haven't looked into the story too much, but apparently it was supposed to be Nohr invading Hoshido for resources because they're having a famine. Then they decided their new awakening audience can't handle a morally grey story and butchered it.
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>>323938283
>Nigger
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>>323959406
No. Websites use december 31st as a placeholder if they dont know the actual day. are you seriously this new to the internet?
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>>323959406
Please go, retard.
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>>323935718
neither.

won't pirate either.
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>>323948937
and somehow the curtain makes it look more lewd
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>>323948937
That's what you people are getting so worked up about?
Damn, am I glad I don't give a fuck about waifushit.
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>version with all 3 routes is limited and sold out everywhere

Why the fuck are they making it so hard for the consumer to literally buy everything? Why do I absolutely have to choose between one of the two shit versions? Whose bright fucking idea was it to make the best version unobtainable to 99% of the user base
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>>323965270
Welcome to Nintendo of America, where everything is completely illogical and we have no faith in anything that isn't Mario or Zelda.
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>>323965270
>best version unobtainable to 99% of the user base
Nohr is available to everyone from the start anon, I don't get what you mean
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>>323965270
I really don't understand why they didn't do the special edition with the artbook and pouch as limited stock and then just the 3-in-one cart as FE Fates: Complete or whatever as less limited stock.
I don't give a fuck about the extra goodies, but my autism really wants all 3 on a physical cart together, and I imagine it's the same for many other people too.
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Player who has played literally ALL FE games here. Already played all 3 routes.
Save yourself the trouble and don't buy Hoshido, it's even easier than sacred stones. And the story is garbage.
Play Nohr, and if you still want to get IK.
Or you can buy Nohr, and pirate the other two when the game comes out.
Or pirate all 3 together, it doesn't really matter.

Also those whinning about the fan-translation are just bitter antipiratefags memeing you. The only translation with issues is IK because a secondary team made it. No idea why the team at Serenes would give the job of the "true ending" to more unseasoned translators.

It's alright if you want to "support" a franchise that doesn't need it anymore, but you should probably get the undub version (with the official translation if it bothers you that much) because the JAP VA cast is goddamn stellar.
I usually play ENG DUB games so I have no bias here, but the ENG cast for fates is downright garbage. Only Ryouma has a decent VA.

So in the end, you should just pirate it. Whatever version, just pirate it. You can play online, streetpass, plus get the mountains of DLC for free too.
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>>323966156
Forgot to add that the story is the worst in the entire series so far. So a translation outside of gameplay features shouldn't even be needed here.

Yes, it outshits Awakening.
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>>323966156
>>323966587
K.
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>>323966054
[ ] Kiss Reggie
[ ] Be bros with Reggie
[X] Hang Reggie

>>323966156
>>323966587

I don't know why are you shilling piracy here. We want to BUY the game, not pirate it.
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>>323966587
>>323966156
Eh, I found Hoshido story alright. Nothing special for FE, while Nohr was absolutely garbage in every way story-wise. Awakening was better story wise.
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>>323966156
>you should probably get the undub version
I am 99% sure its dual audio.
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>>323966795
>shilling piracy
>shilling for something that is literally free
/v/ gets more retarded each day.
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>>323966856
I liked Nohr's more varied gameplay.
Hoshido being almost all rout was literal shit for me. The story from the very beginning was just plain terrible.
I hate having avatars in FE, they neuter the storytelling potential too hard. But now they're going to be a staple. It sucks hard.

>>323966886
Hopefully, but it's modern NoA so we never now. They have a pretty shit track record.
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>>323967230
I don't think the avatars neuter the experience, considering they are actual characters in themselves as opposed to simply being a blank avatar.
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>>323967230
>modern NoA
Its the same team as awakening, Im not defending them in the slightest but being that awakening had dual audio its fair to assume IF will too
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>>323935718
None. Waste of a series
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>>323942875
You do know maps are re-used in most of the routes. Only like 5 maps unique on every chapter.

It's not exactly new content as much as clever re-using of the same assets.
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The one with lesbian tharja
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>>323967402
>Its the same team as awakening
So? That's modern NoA.
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>>323966156
I'll probably end up pirating now, since I have CFW installed.

The thing is I was totally ready to shell out $80 for a simple no bullshit version with all 3 routes and I totally would have, if it weren't for Nintendo's retardation by making this so hard to get.

>>323967230
The avatars are ok, but they need to play down their roles in the story. Just make him a simple character who joins a merry band of fighters as crazy shit happens around him, not have the story literally be all about him.
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>>323967402
It's not the same team as Awakening.
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>>323938283
Whats up senpai
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>>323935718
I was boutta preorder the birthright today but I wasn't sure who was that, is the birthright the one with the purple haired milk monster?, cuz she damn fine but I'd preffer the one with the red heads, ya know, the staff staff! and the flat tomboy.


Man I do sure love tomboys.
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>>323956141
Avatar vs. Marx/Ryoma fight. You have to defeat their retainers in order to open the door to the arena.
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>>323967840
That's pretty much what they did in FE7 and the avatar I liked the best.
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Wait, I have Green Saizou at rank S with Rinka but I dont have Midoriko's paralogue yet.
What's happening?
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>>323946757
You can cheese stuff, hard. I warped Olwen to reindheart, then rescued her back. I also used Tina with a pure water and stole his Dime Thunder. It was a fun map.
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Nohr has the better siblings
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>>323968119
Are you past Chapter 15?
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>>323948898
it isn't You can still grind for supports online, which in turn gives you paralogues for children characters, which in turn give you more experience and a few really good units (they get auto-leveled up as chapters pass on, but so do the enemies).
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>>323968394
Oh, that explains it then.
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>>323935718
dld the fan translation which has both
and that creepy touching minigame which is being removed in the us version i've heard
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>>323948937
I bought the game anyway. And is that from Awakening's DLC? Never bought the game's DLC: I didn't find it necessary.
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So I installed all of the DLC but some of the DLC icons appear as the "IF" symbol and are unplayable.
I have EmuNAND 10.3, everything else has worked fine including the IK route.
Any ideas why they won't load?

That said the DLC maps for this game are better than the game itself. That's such a middle finger to paying costumers.
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>>323968881
>which is being removed in the us version i've heard
Did you get that from /v/? Nothing has been said about removed features or censorship.
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>>323968909
>DLC icons appear as the "IF" symbol and are unplayable.

Sorry man. You have to restore your emuNAND and re-intsall shit again to remove those cia.
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I feel like I'm getting close to the end of Hoshido. I just beat the map where Camilla spams fireballs at one third of the map and damages all your troops for ten health per turn.

It's a good thing vulneraries are so cheap in this game because good lord
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>>323969935
Really that sucks.
Do you know where the saves are located? I'd do that but my MHX save data is too important to me.
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>>323968909
There are only ~10 dlc maps.
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>>323938618
Who's the qt?
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>>323971173
Really? I wonder what's all that unreadable data then.
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>>323935718
Nohr and the DLC.

Gonna borrow the Hoshido version from my bro.
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>>323935718
both
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>>323967402
>>323967741

8-4 did the localization for Awakening you tards
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>>323972498
And NoA added baka-tier black twitter memes to XcX.
They're still worse.
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I heard parallel seals work a bit different in this game skillwise. Can I use a unit in one class, use a parallel seal to turn into the other branch, get the skills from that branch, then immediately switch back to my original with no penalty?
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>>323972595
Yes. This time around the your unit's level is retained and to get the skills you have raise the level once you've reclassed, meaning if you do it at level 18 and you need three levels to get the skill you wanted you're fucked unless you use an expensive item to raise a units level cap by 5
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>>323972581
I do not recall a single meme during my 100 hr playthrough of X.
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Was Kinu designed to be retarded? Every time I've tried her paralogue she runs straight into the range of two promoted mages and a berserker and dies on turn three.

She could very easily run to a good number of spots where she wouldn't get rekt but I swear she's fucking suicidal
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>>323972764
Wait, so raising the lvl nets you one skill, as long as you are above the lvl it is normally learned at, right? Wouldn't your example be fine since each class only has two skills?
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>>323973223
A lot of kids are suicidal morons. Just use a Vanished Disaster staff on her and talk to her on turn 1.
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>>323973352
You also learn the skills from the not promoted class. So say you reclass to a Hero but the unit doesn't have the Mercenary skills. You have to get two levels to get the two Merc skills and then two more to get the Hero ones, assuming you're already past level 15
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>>323973223
She's an animal.
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>>323973580
Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.
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Okay so

Do the save files connect? So if I purchase both versions physical am I actually missing out?
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I downloaded the DLC Cia, but for whatever reason even though I install it, it won't show up. Help?
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>>323974169
They might actually. I'm can't confirm one way or the other for both physical but once 3DS piracy happened I was able to very easily transfer my save data from my Nohr cart to the special edition cia version of the game

>>323974449
The dlc won't run because it's out of region. Look up and install BootNTR and run that before opening your game next time
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I got both with the third dlc
for free
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>>323942875
>Seisen no kofu
>12 chapters
>probably around the equivalent of $70 u.s at the time
>$5.83333333 per chapter

Yet all the casuals love it
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>>323974831
Those levels took hours to complete though
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>>323975386
longest for me was the desert chapter my first time, each level takes no more than an hour now.

Game is really easy after the first playthrough since the enemy AI is predictable as fuck
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Got plenty of games to play in the meantime, I'll probably get it when they release a fully digital edition.
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>>323935718
Nohr. Hoshido did not give a fuck about you until the war started. Nohr raised you. Bloodline is something that only convinces nips.
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>>323975706
>since the enemy AI is predictable as fuck
When hasnt it been?
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>>323977728
>Nohr raised you
Yeah, "raised" you. >>323960183
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>>323977728
Nigger Hinoka literally went into training and cut herself off from other siblings literally so she could save (You).
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>Like Hoshido characters more than Nohr
>Like Nohr gameplay more than Hoshido
Why couldn't they just be the same damn game but with different characters like in fucking Pokemon?
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>>323977990
After reading that, I really hoped it was fake. But chances are it's not. Story sounds overly convoluted and basically makes Nohr generic bad guys.
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>>323936645
>Pre-ordered on 11/16
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>>323977854
It was more-so in Seisen.

Its probably one of the easiest games in the series aside from awakening, non-Nohr Fates, and Sacred stones
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>>323935718
Both because I got my pre-order in for the special edition
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>>323960183
Except they did play a big role in Corrin's life. All of the royals spent a lot of time with them. I think it was outright stated that Elise came to play with them pretty much every day.
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>>323936645
holy shit I'm glad I got it in on the 17th
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>>323974169
You'd miss out on a few extra items for owning multiple routes, like Dark Flier and Dread Fighter scrolls.
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>>323936645
I'm glad I'm not buying this game
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Can someone post that young Gunter?
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>>323935718
Neither because I refuse to play Nintendo's jew game.
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>>323936645
lol got it on the 14th suck my dick
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>>323981438
Here you go.
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Will I be fucked if I never played FE before but get Conquest out of the two?
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>>323938753
Wait is the English translation out? I wanted to buy the special edition when it came out but because of shit like >>323936645 can't now.
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>>323982046
You'll be fine on normal difficulty.

>>323982295
The fan translation is out.
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>>323982590
You got a link? If you don't I'll look on gbatemp then.
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>>323982643
https://mega.nz/#!FNFWGIhJ!bVtsfFyxLPLTp_pE9dfKJvbx-KgWuvrBMyWdo8AHnwU
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>>323982875
Thanks bro.
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>>323939052
When does Nintendo give a fuck about anything Limited/in demand?
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>>323982875
does the fan tran do the supports too or just the menu and main story
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>tfw no fe4/5 remake
Those game could really use it. the english patches are shit too
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>>323935718
hm I don't know yet
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>>323983239
Most of the supports aren't done.
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>>323983239
I've only seen a few of the supports translated. Most of them involve the royals.
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I don't really care if it's like Pokemon and it isn't story related, but isn't this kind of retarded when it effects the game so much? Your pretty much making any sane person who wants a complete narrative buy the game twice.
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>>323983443
>>323983458

Wasn't there a pastebin that had the translated supports in it?
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>>323935718

Both. Gonna do easier version first, then the harder one.
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>>323983587
That's the point goyim
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just Nohr and maybe Invisible Kingdom
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>>323983748
muh nigga
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Did I get lucky or is Nolan easily the best unit in the Dawn Brigade? This man is fucking cleaving his way through every enemy in Chapter 3. Those sub-humans have NOTHING on this glorious man.
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>>323981851
Thank you, anon.
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>>323983918
Literally the only unit in a FE game that I've ever gotten killed and left dead. Got squashed by an unlikely crit and I just couldn't give enough fucks to reset.

In other playthroughs, I don't think I ever had him turn out especially well.
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>>323983325
>wanting modern ISIS to ruin those games with My Unit and shit
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>>323984832
Hey fuck you, I liked FE12.
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>>323983860
>hated the way Azura's white dress looked
>figured by picking Nohr I'd be getting the better sexier looking Azura
>it was just for one fucking scene and you get the dumb looking white Azura instead
Way to make me dislike your predestined waifu more than I already needed to, IS.
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>>323985148
>Azura
Who?
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>>323985286
Sorry, Akuwa.
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>hating on FE11 while thinking FE12 was any better
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>>323985089
FE12 was still pretty great. Doesn't mean a lot of the changes weren't shit.
>Forgettable units constantly thrown at you, only good for the weapons they bring
>Unnecessary changes to the story just to add more characters, Wolfguard and Michalis in particular
>My Unit being involved in a story that he doesn't belong in and being best buds with Marth
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>>323985410
FE12 was better, FE11 was mediocre as fuck and FE12 improved on it in every way.
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>>323985528
Don't forget on how shit the whole Anri's Way arc was without elemental magic dealing effective damage on dragons like in FE3.
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>>323985528
>Forgettable units constantly thrown at you, only good for the weapons they bring
You can blame that on FE12 being a modern remake of an old FE game.
>Unnecessary changes to the story just to add more characters, Wolfguard and Michalis in particular
Eh, it's more characters. Aint complaining about it.
>My Unit being involved in a story that he doesn't belong in and being best buds with Marth
I guess, but it worked for me. Awakening and Fates further improved My Unit as a character with each release, regardless of what you think about the games themselves.
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>>323985410
FE11 is bad because it's easy thanks to warp skipping, has no supports, forces you to kill units to reach gaidens, and doesn't make any attempts to correct issues like there being no axe users past chapter 3.

FE12 doesn't have these problems.
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I chose to join the battle in Smash!
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>>323985795
>Awakening and Fates further improved My Unit as a character with each release
>further improved
That's arguable. For me the more important they get in the plot, the shitter it is. I liked Chris being just a bodyguard with no sense of direction that was strong for no reason other than being really diligent at his training. Now they're all OC material that are the center of story and going towards the Mary Sue territory.

And more characters would have been good if they weren't all shit for the most part, Michalis and Nagi were the only semi competent ones, character balance was the shit that plagued FE12. Even more so that they didn't adjust character stats according with difficulty, not even given them hard mode bonuses like FE6 and FE7. Seeing Astram with like 15 stats less than his generic army of heroes is sad.
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>>323943126
This, holy fuck. Conquest hard feels like Awakening Lunatic at times.
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>>323967576
I've heard differently. Every map is (supposedly) different, with the sole exception of child recruitment maps being the same in Nohr/Hoshido versions as they are in third path, since you're recruiting the same children.
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>>323985836
>easy thanks to Warp skipping
SD isn't the only game you can trivialize with this.

>has no supports
Still has at least one or two Talk conversations almost every chapter.

>forces you to kill units to reach gaidens
Those gaidens are a precursor to Casual Mode, they were tackled in to give free shit for struggling players, so much that they break the difficulty curve of the game if you play them. I don't get why people complain about this, if they didn't put any gaidens at all people would complain less.

>no axe users past chapter 3
>who is Minerva
Granted, a valid complaint, but FE12 is just as bad at that given that the original game didn't even feature any axe users. At least Minerva is still great in both now that Dracoknights wield axes.
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>>323935718
Neither. I've purchased every fire emblem on release day starting with a preorder for FE7 as a kid. Awakening just turned me off from the franchise. I just don't care anymore. If the reception is positive, I'll buy the collection.
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>>323985836
>didn't address the numerous issues with book 2 (bad, lazy level design among them)
>still kept FE11 artstyle
>kept most FE11 mechanics, but leaving gaiden requirements behind was great
>most characters are useless
>reclass system
>poorly done hard modes, especially Lunatic
>poor normal mode balance since this was originally balanced around 20 stat caps and was unchanged for the re release.

Biggest problem is that it doesn't really fix the problems with the original SNES games. FE11 is equally as guilty. I get its a remake but they made only half hearted attempts to modernize them.
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>>323986472
There are maybe five shared maps between Hoshido and Nohr that aren't child maps, and they're widely different in how they play. You probably won't even recognize the Nohr version of one of them.
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>>323935718
they're gonna censor it, so I'm not buying it.
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>>323986657
>still kept FE11 artstyle
At least they fixed the worst portraits, it looks fine now.

>reclass system
It was good in FE12 given that it's now an strategical tool to be used instead of just breaking the game by changing Sedgar and Wolf in Generals.

>most characters are useless
Useless is an understatement. This one I give you.

And the Hard Modes aren't poorly done, they are actually really fun to play. Only reason they're shit is due to said haracter balance.
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>>323986554
>SD isn't the only game you can trivialize with this.
We aren't talking about other games, and to be honest I don't consider FE5 to be a very good game either.

>Still has at least one or two Talk conversations almost every chapter.
What FE12 gives you is leagues better than FE11, which is nothing.

>I don't get why people complain about this
Because people don't want to be forced to kill units to get to gaiden chapters in a game that gives you ~51 characters.

>who is Minerva
I was referring to enemy axe users, but I failed to mention that in my post. This is a problem because it makes one third of the weapon triangle pointless for the player.
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Who are the better "siblings"? Make sure you tell the class why in your answer.
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>>323987007
>Because people don't want to be forced to kill units to get to gaiden chapters in a game that gives you ~51 characters.
But you aren't forced to kill them because those chapters aren't for you if the units didn't die naturally. They are for struggling players who get their numbers that down, those maps are full of weak and incompetent enemies, give you free money, overpowered weapons and stuff like that.
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>>323987154
It doesn't matter who they're for, if I want to use those characters or access those chapters, I shouldn't be forced to punish myself to access them if I'm not a casual, especially since Frey and Norn can't even be use in hard mode+. I should be free to play the whole game in any matter I wish.
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>>323947694
Absolute retard.
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>>323936645
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck I ordered the week after it was announced. I gotta get home and check my receipt for the date.
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>>323987426
You're literally ignoring the point of why they made them by going "it doesn't matter I want it LALALALA". Come on, at least try to understand why they did what they did.

Those chapters are shit and made for nothing other than give you free spoils.
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>tfw no radiant dawn/path of radiance on the eshop
why nintendo
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>>323987069
Nohr.
Has Camila.
Yandere, big anime tiddies, awesome VA.
Class dismissed.
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>>323983615
Yes. I'm not sure why they weren't in the translation.
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>>323987069

Ryouma, Marx, and Camilla are the best in terms of utility. They're the best you'll get on any route.

All your other siblings are good, but not as good as those three. There's no reason not to use all 4 on the exclusive routes, and all 8 on IK


Ryouma is the probably the best of them all.
If you hook him up with Camilla you can produce a god child from a loveless marriage devoid of any happiness.
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>>323987069

they are all good

god tier:
Ryouma, arguably the best unit in the game due to godlike stats

top tier:
marx, amazing stats but not as good as ryouma

great tier:
takumi, really good weapon and hits like a truck (archers in general are really good in fates)
camilla
hinoka

the other three aren't amazing but still fairly decent. magic in general is kinda shit in fates and went through a lot of nerfs. honestly you can use any of the royals and you can't go wrong
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>>323986436
The dragon chapter, 5 I think it was caused me to have more resets single handedly then I did in most HHM runs god damn.
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>>323987606
I'm sorry, but that's essentially all the argument will come down to. I don't care why they did it, the majority of people who were around when SD came out and complained about it for that reason didn't care why they did it, they wanted to be able to play the whole game at their leisure.

It's just bad game design.
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>>323987752
I read their support it wasn't that bad. Joker/Camilla is WAY worse.
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>>323987769
Elise is one of the best staffbots you get due to her growth and a horse in IK and Nohr, Sakura is the only truly useless one since she offers nothing but good growths.

Takumi also eventually falls of utility in higher difficulties in IK and never gets a chance to shine in Hoshido because you don't need anything besides Ryoma and Crimson.

Hinoka is only really great for flying utility, they should have made her a prepromote too.

>>323987960
Then go and play the patch that allows you to access those chapters without anyone dying. I was on your train before but after I played them I say from experience they're shit and break the difficulty curve of the game. Athena was the only really cool thing out of it.

Those maps would be like if you failed to get stars to open a new stage in a Mario game, you'd be thrown into a closed area with three stars, 10 one ups, 500 coins and one of each power up for you to choose.

They're shit, the closest to being cool to play is Etzel's.
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>>323987769
Their personal weapons are such bullshit. In a game where any weapn stronger than iron has some downside, theirs have none and better than silver tier stats to complement them. most of my units were still using iron and bronze weapons when takumi comes in with his 14 mt bow that ignores terrain penalties.
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>>323988405
I hate this new weapon system.
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>>323958252
Apparently it's physical only on the Special Edition, and only digital for everyone else.
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>>323983918
You got lucky but he's also the only non-shit unit in the original DB.
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>Two versions of the game
>Unlike Pokemon where it doesn't really matter what version you get you need both plus DLC to get the whole story

Yeah i'm not buying shit
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>>323989060
You didn't play Oracle of Ages and Seasons too?
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>>323983918
>Earth affinity
>only unit in DB that can take a hit
>nice gains
>bitching personal axe that's endgame material

He's always been my favourite. He sometimes gets strength screwed, but the BEXP system takes care of most of those types of problems.
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>>323989060
see >>323942875
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>>323989384
People wouldn't derail a thread over this again, would they?
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>>323989165
Oracles is something people would be fucking pissed about if it came out in this day and age, and rightly so. Nobody complains about it now because it came out fucking 15 years ago.
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>>323989384
Gimme mai waifu.
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>can have oni savage as a subclass
>can't have fox spirit or garou

?
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i agree with the op!
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>>323989384
rollaaaaaan
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>>323989384
rolling because why the fuck not
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>>323989565
>Oracles is something people would be fucking pissed about if it came out in this day and age, and rightly so
Why would people complain about two unique games that share nothing but generic enemies and a few art assets?
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>>323989576
Grats, homo.
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>>323989384
Aw why the hell not? Better give me someone cute from Nohr.
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>>323989619
You can't change your race.
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>>323936645
>tfw I ordered on 16th
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>>323989759
Success!
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>>323989619
Because you're already a dragon
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>>323989669
Story wise. Like how everyone threw a fit over Asura's Wrath having a true ending DLC.
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>>323989384
waifu rolling is always worth crashing a thread over. unless i roll a shit waifu
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>>323989892
Does your kid actually take on the appearance of their mom/dad if their a beastrace this time?
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>>323989892
>>323989950

Yeah but I figured Oni would be classified as a different race as well, locking you out of it.
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>>323989384
>Those designs
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>>323989384
Rollin for Nohr
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>>323989991
That would require them to change every single kid in the game because Kamui is a manakete so no. They didn't even bother to change eyebrows and the fact that all kids have gray pupils indicate that originally they'd also inherit eye color but it was scrapped.
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>>323937256
>Proves they could have fit all 3 on 1 cartridge the entire time

The 3rd chapter is still DLC, I think the SE comes with a voucher for it.
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>>323972782
literally first 15 mins had one from the guy at bottom of elevator when you first enter new la
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>>323989986
>unless i roll a shit waifu
>86
>Velour
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>>323990028
No, Oni is a class.
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>>323990229
No it comes on the cart. That's the really fun part right there, if you get the special edition, you get to play Revelation early. If not, wait three weeks because fuck it, fuck you.
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>>323990028
I think Oni is meant as a representation of an Oni as opposed to the actual race, as fighters and berserkers strive to be like them.
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Are there any legitimately interesting characters this time around? I'm talking at least Maribelle or Gregor levels of not conforming to a single character trait and flanderizing the shit out of it like Gaius and muh candy.
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>>323989384
Rolling for Nohr
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>intelligent systems responsible for redeeming the shitty metroid name with super metroid
>run metroid into the ground
>intelligent systems responsible for creating a great strategy series with fire emblem
>shit on fire emblem by turning it into a garbage pile ala pokemon
It's a matter of time before people start abandoning ship at IS and moving on to a company that isn't pulling a call of duty on their IPs
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>>323989384
Here we go
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>>323989384
why not
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>>323989384

okay
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>>323989384
Pls
Touch fluffy tail is fine too.
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>>323990212
I think only Kamui can get a beast kid that wouldn't be a beast kid by default, so they would only need a total of four different kid models.
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>>323990562
Play the game yourself and come to your own conclusion. You're asking the same idiots who will try and defend characters like Wil or Noah if it means saying that any post Awakening character is shit.
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>>323989714
>>323989576
I'm sure we'll both be really happy on our bench.
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>>323989384
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>>323990763
So close.
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>>323990565
Pretty sure this will be the first and last series to feature a game split.

Even as two (three) games it only sold a little bit more than Awakening.
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>>323989384

>Shara

Is that a copy and pasted Tharja?
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>>323991078
Yes.
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>>323989384
Camilla pls
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>>323989384
>Anna

What a fucking slut.
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>>323989384
plz give me Felicia or not severa
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>>323936645
>there will not be enough product of an item that isn't even out yet
THIS IRRITATES THE SHIT OUT OF ME.
Not just Fire Emblem, but any preorders that go out of stock.
Preorders are meant to give an estimate on how much to make for them and for extras that a store can sell. How in the flying FUCK can a place be OUT OF STOCK of an item that isn't even RELEASED YET?
And because the items are in "limited supply" the people who actually snagged a copy of whatever the item is will sell said item for double, sometimes triple the price the MSRP is. The people making this shit are losing money and they're too stupid to realize it. We wonder how scalpers are able to exist, but the answer is right fucking there.

Oh my god this pisses me the fuck off.
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>>323991078
"Reincarnated" Tharja

Apparently someone at IS figured that making clones of Awakening first gens would be a good idea instead of just adding more Awakening second-gens if they're doing it for Awakening pandering
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>>323991326
reroll
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>>323989384
pls
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>>323991078

Yeah, Tharja was pretty damn popular so I guess pandering was in order.

Expect another figure to be released for the hot glue enthusiasts
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>>323936645
11/13 here. Everyone else can fuck off. It sucks about the canceled preorders, but if they were truly fans of the game, they should have preordered ASAP.
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>>323991815
Shara is the most popular among the clones but clones aren't popular and are bottom feeders in the popularity poll
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>>323991815
God, I hope so.
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>>323992015
Man, fuck you. I tried to order off of Amazon the minute I heard about the SE, which was less than a day after it was announced, and they were sold out. The only reason I dragged my heals on ordering at GameStop is because Gamestop is terrible, and I was praying Amazon would get them back in stock.
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>>323936645
This makes me worried. I made my pre-order on the 14th, but now I'm convinced some crazed vidya deprived maniac is going to mug me for my special edition.
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>>323992553
>heals
Should have just went to Gamestop first.
I get all my games at Gamestop.
Because I work there.

And to everyone else that's worried about their preorders, if you preordered before the 18th, then you are fine. My store had 9 preorders for the SE and only one was after the date. The 8 left are still getting theirs, and you are, too.
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>>323935718
I'll hopefully be getting all free when the game actually fucking releases in Australia.
>tfw not even a release date given yet
>already preordered like a fucking idiot.
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Who is the undisputed Anal Queen of FE?
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>>323938283
fuck you aaron
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Which has the better story? That's all I care about.
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>>323991352
Shit makes me mad too. Nintendo knew that everyone wanted to buy it in a single cartridge, but they decided, once again, to save money by making people use the eshop. I haven't been able to buy a physical 3DS game for years since I move around too much to preorder.
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>>323935718
Will i be able to get both games on the e shop at release?
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>>323996442
They're all shit.
Hoshido bland and forced drama because "people are only allowed to be reasonable on the DLC route"
Nohr's is not good either but the gameplay is solid. You have to be willing to swallow the fact that IS is going to hammer home the fact that you picked to work for a cartoon villain and everybody is too scared of the cartoon villain to fight him until the end game.
Invisible Kingdom is the only route that gives you all the plot answer and resolves the story but as some retarded as fuck contrivances
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>>323989384
Ro~ll!
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>>323989384
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>>323989384
Lol
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>>323989384
Rolling
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>>323989384
15-21 or 50-56 come on get gods.
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>>323989384
ZERO!
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>>323935846
They always lie to you, i remember when the first Final Fantasy theatrhythm was launched they justified the DLC because they couldn't fit all the songs in the cart, then they go and make a sequel with triple the songs and many more characters.
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>>323989384
I still don't get why they didn't just put in potential children.
Like why did they put in a "reincarnated" Tharja instead of what her kid is in Awakening, if she has one?
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>>323996927
>Invisible Kingdom is the only route that gives you all the plot answer and resolves the story

I honestly can't believe nintendo went this low. They've made some retarded mistakes but usually stay away from the terrible business practices that the game industry is succumbing to.

"Each part is a full game" my ass. Fuck anyone that supports this crap.
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>Nohr Chapter 13

This game makes me feel like a fucking casual.
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Birthright: semi-decent story and easy gameplay.
Conquest: terrible story and traditional FE gameplay

Is this correct?
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>shit story
>gameplay is copy&pasted from awakening with slight adjustments
>twice the price of a normal game if you want the full story

Why are people supporting this crap?
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>>323957737
If its anything like awakening, We will be waiting for fucking months
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>>323999668
Just get Nohr and call it a day.
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>>323957737
>murica gets it in a little over a month
>ausfags don't even know when or if
I'm sorry Aussies. Why does Nintendo hate you?
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>>323957737
>tfw imported my 3DS
Dodged a bullet
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>>323998992
I believe this though. The sound quality on Curtain Call is absolute garbage compared to the original. They fit the extra songs by compressing the motherfuck out of them, which they probably decided they could do because msot people listen out of their 3DS speakers anyway.
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>>323989384
Roll
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>Hoshido chapter 15
>All this forced drama
>This is supposed to be the route with the best story
I can only fear how bad the story gets in the other routes.
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>>324001521
Got the tittymonster. I suppose that's alright.
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>>323989384
Praise Anna
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>>323989384
Effie pl0x. Otherwise Azura, Sakura, Luna, Elise or Anna.
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>>323935718
i am tired of this shit. people are saying nohr is shit and Hoshido is ok in story. then they say both are shit and then hoshido is shit and nohr is shit.
Ok so i get there both shit but let me say this. If you have not played the game stop reading this your words mean nothing right now to me


people who played the game please tell me which game is best to spend my money on.
>inb4 buy both
>inb4 you mad
>inb4 nigga nigga nigga mellow

is nohr story really that bad and is hoshido story bad.
lets say i like nohr a little more because of the cast. What as a person who has played this can you say to make me not buy it and this also goes for hoshitdo
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>>323936014
>he doesn't play it in superior japanese on a non-jp region 3ds
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>>323989384
Rolling for maids
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