Friendly reminder that this games is going to be great in the long term.
Also fun Fact: Retro Studios designed the federation marines
Also this game is apparently taking place between Metroid 1 and Return of Samus
NLG have a pretty good reputation for fun multiplayer games, although what we saw at E3 just looked bland and boring. I'm fine with a spin-off (and I don't think Samus should be shoe-horned into it like some people are suggested), I just wished that they had stuck with the old Prime artstyle.
>Also this game is apparently taking place between Metroid 1 and Return of Samus
You say that like it's going to have an actual plot.
I'm hoping they take the modern shooter approach and you get a random chance of using a really strong weapon or playing as Samus.
Like they did with Darth Vader and Luke in Battlefront.
An Amazon listing has it as Metroid Prime: Blast Ball only.
Methinks they gutted the main game of FedForce due to backlash and just made it a downloadable multiplayer game, like they should've done from the beginning.
even if it turns out decent. it's not going to matter.
It's dead on arrival
... before arrival actually
>but this does not look like a Metroid game
Geez, mayybe because this is NOT a metroid game? It's a spin-off game, you didn't know?
Also not a metroid game: Metroid Prime Pinball.
The powerups look temporary and not permanent which is half the basis for Prime games, if not all Metroid in general. I didn't hate this game for being a Prime game, though I was sad that we didnt get a Prime game, but I will dislike it a great deal if you do not get upgrades like good Metroid games.
The problem is that Metroid is fucking dead.
When they announced Prime Pinball I wasn't angry at all, because the Prime games were being released and Pinball was simply a particular spin-off.
If FF were released back then, no one would have been this mad about this game, but after all the drought you give us a fucking drop of water?
>It's a spin-off game
Yeah, It being called FINAL FANTASY with big fucking letters doesn't mean nothing.
>tfw no crystal chronicles to play multiplayer with your friend again ever
Best multiplayer game till today.
Feels bad man.
>It being called METROID PRIME with big fucking letters doesn't mean nothing.
You mean METROID prime FEDERATION FORCE.
You can barely see the prime while everything else can be seen as clear as day in the fucking thumbnail.
I know that feel man, back in the day I used to play it with my friends. Even in single player it was awesome.
Luckily my gf started playing echoes of time on Wii, so I help her with my character from the ds version and then we'll play the original CC. I couldn't be happier, I feared I would never play it again with someone.
Please don't make me dream, crystal chronicles was euthanized from its own creators. We will never see it again.
That journey was one of my favourite journeys in the whole world of videogames.
>tfw replayed singleplayer recently
>tfw remember playing this with a friend a two whole summerbreaks long
>tfw will never play this again multiplayer
Feels bad man.
please live in germany, we can play together with your gf :3
>the golden age is gone, never to return
That game was a fucking prophecy
I even bought the artbook and guide, just to read them while listening to the ost.
I played it back in 2005, and to this day it's still one of my favourite games.
sadly not, I'm in Italy, near switzerland
This, there's a reason there's so many fucking dislikes on the youtube page. Good bait though OP, you got a lot of responses.
I'd rather see Metroid canned forever than butchered with spinoffs nobody wants. Even the faggot primebabies are hating this spinoff, the intended fucking audience for it.
>memories flickering and shimmering on endlessly
Fuck man, you really want me to FEEL
I really want to play this but I'm not willing to pay more than 20 bucks. You can easily tell it's not worth more than that.
>just pirate it mang
Nah, gotta keep the franchise alive.
I shat all over this design when they first released it, looked like an abomination to the series. Shows how much worse things can indeed get. Now Nintendo has resorted to injecting their children's aesthetic into one of their only grounded(within it's own universe) series.
Same company as Federation Force too.
Fucking hercules boss designs
yeah. Even without the metroid name.
It just looks so.. lackluster
Zelda I didn't mind so much though with the change. I don't really know how t explain it correctly, but it's not really a consistent universe, as much as they'd like you to believe otherwise.
Metroid has an entirely different feel to it. They have semblance of a more realistic take, kinda gritty. Something none of the other Nintendo games have today.
Just years ago, Star Fox x Metroid was almost a thing. That's when i knew Metroid was pretty much done.
>Yeah, It being called METROID PRIME with big fucking letters
WWWROOOOONG. It's called FEDERATION FORCE in big fucking letters, with Metroid being written smaller and Prime even smaller. How can you fail so hard?
>The problem is that Metroid is fucking dead.
It's not. Any long running Metroid fan know that this is a franchise with a slow output. There was 8 years between Super and Fusion.
It's not dead, it simply takes it's time.
>8 years between Super and Fusion
Different time, my friend.
>That's no longer the case.
And what make you think it pander solely to children? You know adult can like this kind of design too, right?
Then they shouldn't have made a spin-off when people are clearly starved for a mainline entry. This is bad business on their part.
I feel fucking sorry for the 2D-only fags. It's been over 12 years since they've recieved a new game.
>Sakamoto has one bad game
Thus far. If he was allowed to continue Metroid in his fashion, the series might as well be dead.
>Metroid was a franchise with substance
You're missing my point entirely. That I have to explain how Metroid went from pic related to what we have now is fucking silly. I like my sci-fi with fantastical elements. Now we have chibi-shit.
In comparison to anything Nintendo, why yes, yes it does.
>Then they shouldn't have made a spin-off when people are clearly starved for a mainline entry.
I really don't see why. When you have a concept, you do it, simply. You don't wait for something else to come up.
Putting an idea that you think might work in the fridge IS what is bad business.
>Thus far. If he was allowed to continue Metroid in his fashion, the series might as well be dead.
The games he has done after Other M have been good too.
I like NLG but this looks mediocre at best. Hopefully they can greatly improve the gameplay from what we saw in the Treehouse footage.
I don't mind the artstyle at all and I don't give a shit whether Samus is in it, all I want are gameplay improvements.
>When you have a concept, you do it
Unless nobody actually wants that concept and you'd upset a large and vocal group of people by doing so. All it would've taken was not branding it with Metroid. That would have avoided the backlash.
Let's just try to forget that it looks like a boring/easy game no matter what the IP attached to it is.
3d metroid had the same problems as 3d castlevania where its possible to have great level design but its combat is always lackluster that's why metroidvania is at its best in 2d because it has a nice balance between both aspects
>That I have to explain how Metroid went from pic related to what we have now is fucking silly.
Except it didn't. There is the Metroid Franchise, whose the art direction is still unknown up until the next game come up, and then there is a the Spin-off, federation force, which get a different design specifically to mark the distinction between the spin-off and the main franchise. This is actually a good thing to do.
You are literally complaining about the wrong material, there.
On a side note, chibi style doesn't prevent sci-fi with fantastical elements.
>Federation Force is going to be significantly worse and have far less features than the Metroid handheld game from 10 fucking years ago
Its like Star Wars Battlefront all over again.
>Unless nobody actually wants that concept and you'd upset a large and vocal group of people by doing so
A lot of people kind of wanted a spin-off with the FF.
And the upsetting is simply uncalled for and come from a noisy minority.
> All it would've taken was not branding it with Metroid.
Why? People wanted a spin-off with the FF.
>A lot of people kind of wanted a spin-off with the FF.
But nobody wanted a super simplistic and childish game with slow movement and gameplay and low challenge. This hypothetical FF spinoff that fans were talking about was a SERIOUS GAME with SERIOUS GRAPHICS and SERIOUS DEPTH. Not a fucking baby town frolics chibi robot adventure featuring soccer.
> People wanted a spin-off with the FF.
This is the only way they could have fucked up the idea of an FF spinoff though. I don't see how you're finding this hard to grasp. People who like Metroid don't want it. People who wanted an FF spinoff wanted something better. People who didn't want either, don't care at all.
I didn't come into a metroid thread for feels, fuck you.
>nobody actually wants that concept
People have been begging for a Federation game since Prime 2, if they had chosen a more "mature" art direction I guarantee you Metroid fans would have eaten this shit up.
Granted the gameplay looks pretty shit regardless of art direction but even then most of the sperging came before we found that out via Treehouse.
No, it helps when a franchise stays consistent within it's designs, as it has up until this point.
Do not even compare this to final fantasy for fucks sake. These are entirely different beasts, and it's fucking silly that you would. There is nothing even remotely consistent about Final Fantasy.
>But nobody wanted a super simplistic and childish game with slow movement and gameplay and low challenge.
We know almost nothing of the game. Those were entry and in-development level.
>This is the only way they could have fucked up the idea of an FF spinoff though. I don't see how you're finding this hard to grasp. People who like Metroid don't want it.
I like Metroid and I want it. I far better prefer for them to take their time to develop a GOOD, Metroid game with great gameplay and interesting idea, design and story, than for Nintendo to rush a new bad one like Other M.
i am a Metroid fan, I can be patient, I am used to it. and if in the meantime, I can get a fun Spin-off game while I am waiting, then it's all for the better.
People are literally complaining about getting appetizers. This is what is impossible to grasp and make them whining brats.
That's my point: that there is currently no games from the main franchise coming soon IS actually the BEST reason to get a spin-off.
>it helps when a franchise stays consistent within it's designs
It's a spin-off. A spin-off need to have its own identity.
How many people here actually believe this is a main metroid tittle?
>These are entirely different beasts
Yes, that's the point. and this is why the comparison is apt.? FF is a different kind of game than Metroid or MP. that it is reflected with a different looking style is actually a good thing.
>Those were entry and in-development level.
There was enough footage to be damning. It's not going to pull a complete 180 and suddenly get deeper, more challenging and speedier. What we saw is basically what we're gonna get. Slow moving enemies, boring objectives with very little depth and clunky/boring shooter mechanics.
>I far better prefer for them to take their time to develop a GOOD, Metroid game with great gameplay and interesting idea, design and story, than for Nintendo to rush a new bad one like Other M.
Other M wasn't rushed and there is currently ZERO work being done on "real" Metroid. This was confirmed after E3.
> I can get a fun Spin-off game
It's not gonna be fun. It's not even a real shooter, it's just using the Prime 1/2 style of lock-on + strafe combat.
Would you prefer it if Nintendo made Samus to look more like a Teen titans kawaii anime waifu?
People said the same about Tri Force Heroes. Yet I put more than 70 hours into that (I also got it for reasonable 30€). FF will probably retail for a similar price. Let's wait and see how much cont it will have.
>There was enough footage to be damning.
Not really, two level still in development. Not to mention, the players weren't really good either.
>It's not going to pull a complete 180 and suddenly get deeper, more challenging and speedier.
Depend of the other missions.
>What we saw is basically what we're gonna get.
> boring objectives with very little depth
>nd clunky/boring shooter mechanics.
Have you hold the thing?
>and there is currently ZERO work being done on "real" Metroid. This was confirmed after E3.
Nothing for the Wii U. that's what was said.
>It's not gonna be fun. It's not even a real shooter, it's just using the Prime 1/2 style of lock-on + strafe combat.
Wait for the game to come out to judge.
>I put more than 70 hours into Tri Force Heroes
Count on it now. Metroid is a kids series now.
>Not really, two level still in development.
Which aren't going to suddenly stop being shit.
> the players weren't really good either.
They didn't have anything to show off. There's no fucking depth to it.
>Depend of the other missions.
Not really. The core mechanics and gameplay aren't good enough for there to be potential elsewhere with different scenarios.
They've shown us examples. You're desperately clinging to the fact that it's not finished yet. It's not going to change significantly.
>Have you hold the thing?
Shooters are one of the easiest genres to judge the controls of from the distance. It's slow. The gunplay is clunky and boring.
>Nothing for the Wii U.
No, nothing at all. Period.
>Wait for the game to come out to judge.
I don't need to. I've got life experience, years and years of gaming experience and a pretty heart amount of gameplay footage to apply those things to. I'm sorry you're so consistently stupid/wrong/misinformed that you feel the need to hold back judgement obsessively. I can't tell you the last time I thought a game looked bad from a distance and it actually turned out to be fun. It's not hard to judge.
The thing is, while that looks a little wonky in terms of concept art, I bet it would translate really well to the limitations of the 3DS. Players would probably not even notice how "stylized" it is.
next is lucky star Samus
I still don't get why people are so upset about this. I love Super Metroid and Metroid Prime, but I wasn't really anticipating anything good from the series considering all that they did to to Samus in Other M and ZSS in Smash 4. I'd be too scared it'd be utter shit if it featured Samus anyways.
>the game might actually end up as shit because of the people that joined Metroid with Prime
I mean I'm not one to shit on Primelings because I like both 2D and 3D Metroids, outside of Other M, but come on shooting down something someone has put work into on the spot just isn't right in any situation.
It was just the perfect storm.
The last Metroid game that was deemed good was released in 2007, the one after that was considered the worst in the franchise, then we get half a decade of nothing, and when we finally have something new, it's a weird looking spin off game that doesn't match the tone or atmosphere of any of the previous entries in the franchise.
>that doesn't match the tone or atmosphere of any of the previous entries in the franchise.
That's because it's a spin off.
I mean, shit like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon doesn't follow the same tone or atmosphere as the original Pokemon games and was originally thought of as bad by the fanbase because it was different. Look at it now.
There are some extra flaws that go beyond marketing.
Visually it's just not that good looking. Metroid Prime: Hunters was one of, if not the most technically impressive DS game around. And that was done by NST, which isn't really the biggest developer around. The fact that NLG didn't do much to top it is just a disappointment.
>“If we tried to do this last year without announcing what Bethesda Game Studios was doing [Fallout 4] and said, ‘Oh we’re doing a game and it’s on mobile and it’s called Fallout Shelter,’ we’d probably get lynched, right?’.There would be pitchforks at the gate. ‘That’s not the Fallout we asked for, you bastards!’ But doing it this way, they’re like, ‘I’m getting what I want and oh, by the way, while I wait here’s this other free thing that’s fun to play.” -Bethesda’s VP of marketing, Pete Hines
Whatever you fucking think of Bethesda, this is spot on in my book.
Did anyone give a shit about Metroid Prime Pinball, other than it being a weird novelty? No, because there were like, a ton of Metroid games coming out around the time.
Jesus fucking christ. Metroid is unlike any of Nintendo's other properties, that is the problem here.
These games do not warrant a cutesy spin-off that is clearly aimed toward the younger crowd.
Metroid is not Mario, Zelda, or Pokemans. These are all games aimed exclusively for children. One could maybe argue zelda, but even still.
Metroid had it's own distinct aesthetic and tone. Now it's fucked up.
Nope, you mouth-breathing mongolian. I didn't have to pay shit for it, it was a throwaway extra and hoped it was there to show Metroid was still a thing for Nintendo and work on one was in the tubes.
Not that I even played the shit.
>Metroid had it's own distinct aesthetic and tone. Now it's fucked up.
It's a spin off anon, that's like saying every Metroid game after Pinball is now a pinball game.
That said it would be interesting to see in a Prime game as a trap set up by the Space Pirates because they realized she trawls through the tubes.
1. Prime was graphically great for its time, so right off the bat, it had a "wow" factor.
2. Even beyond that, Prime attempted its best to translate the Metroid formula from 2D to a first-person 3D experience, and considering its popularity, I'd say they didn't do badly. Federation Force isn't trying to play like a standard game in the series, which leads to
3. Retro didn't trumpet around a weird soccer minigame before showing off the meat of Prime
4. Beyond any of this though, the gameplay we've seen of Federation Force just doesn't look that impressive.
Very true, especially in this case. They don't know how to handle a series with a consistent universe to it. Metroid being pretty much their only series like that.
Metroid Fusion successor never. We will forever be trapped between Super Metroid and Metroid 2 or some shit.
She's now hunted by the GFeds for one. This could mean the possibility of them hiring more Bounty Hunters to take her on. Could also be on the side of Sylux if they ever bring him back.
>Enemy of the series is dead
>the pirates that had metroids are dead and so is the entire planet where they were being cloned
>the thing Metroids were created to kill are dead due to the destruction of the planet
>any hope of recreating the Metroids was lost with SR388's destruction
It can't be called Metroid without Metroids. Unless of course you pull some bullshit about Samus being ambushed by the secret faction federation that were cloning for her blood then the whole story just looks retarded because they have to have a way for Samus to escape.
That said wasn't there something about the SA-X resetting her genetic structure when she absorbed it?
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>but wasn't it the space station full of Metroids and shit that she dropped to the planet that pissed them off?
Yeah but it wasn't all of the Federation as much as it was a corrupt side of it.
I'd say it could still be called Metroid with no metroids around because samus is now a hybrid of them. Just name it Metroid Legacy or something and done!
Metroids will more than likely always be around though, one way or another.
>point of Metroid is to be an isolationist platformer
>force mandatory multiplayer elements and remove all semblance of platforming
wut are you doin Nintendo?
>That said wasn't there something about the SA-X resetting her genetic structure when she absorbed it?
>That said wasn't there something about the SA-X resetting her genetic structure when she absorbed it?
If I remember right it was in a Sakamoto interview, so unless they remove him then I doubt it can happen.
new bounty hunter, new galaxy, metroid and x aren't the only spooky thing in space
a spin off that's not OP's but still super metroid style with a new start that's not tied down to story that wrote itself into a corner, which is what ultimately what ruined metroid.
you don't need chozo statues to get upgrades but you also don't need Adam to let you use them, just have it like shadow complex, you find the equipment you need to move forward without it being a big issues story wise and more gameplay wise
On the contrary I think the idea of a federation trooper game is a fucking neat concept.
Think about ODST, or Republic Commando, or anything like that. Having you play as a grunt instead of the invincible character from the main-line games is something that's worked before for spin offs, you just have to do it right. I don't think they're doing it right though.
I did not know that actually, thank you for informing me then. I doubt it'll be anything as diverse or play as well as Hunters did judging by what we've see, but eh.
>I don't think they're doing it right though.
They're not and that's why there's so much backlash. Can you imagine ODST or Republic Commando taking their respective universes and making them cute to play for the kids?
It's acceptable because it's a spin-off though! Some of you guys are fucking deluded.
>I doubt it'll be anything as diverse or play as well as Hunters did judging by what we've see, but eh.
Given what we've seen of the controls it'll probably be something like the Prime 2 multiplayer but slightly slower.