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Frags in TF2 require infinitely more skill and a infinitely more impressive than CSGO. This isn't even debatable.
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fuck i can'tr rocket jump without moving my entire head down, like i was a litle kid playing mario kart.
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>rocket jumping is hard
This is what TF2 babbies believe. Your game is shit and the source engine is cancer for competitive multiplayer games.
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>>323905610
Nobody is saying rocket jumping is hard. But compared to CSGO, TF2 is leaps and bounds more impressive to watch.
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>>323905695
It's not.
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>baby first rocket jump
>critical melee
sure buddy
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>>323905769
Sniping in CSGO:
>Hold angle and strafe into cover when flashed
>Hit anywhere but the legs

Sniping in TF2:
>Enemies flying through the sky
>Even headshots aren't guaranteed frags
>Spies can easily sneak past you
>Enemies much much faster than CS
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>>323905472
that wasn't really the most impressive frag to show, but i still bet counter-slow players wouldn't be able to replicate such a perfect roll-out and frag anytime soon

csgo related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds
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>>323905904
Oh, wow.
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>>323905904
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>fire rockets into huge scuffle of players
>get bunch of kills

ELITE SKILLS
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>>323906207
Nerd with a lisp. 3kliksphilip is much better.
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>>323905472
This is what TF2 used to be like

This is what modern TF2 is
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>>323906207
RNG
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>>323906217
How about you go back to play valve's Call of Duty?
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>>323907106
I don't like CS:GO either.
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>playing Tf2 in the current year
>playing csgo ever
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>>323905472
>"Frags in TF2 require infinitely more skill"
>Gets a lucky crit and dies himself

I might not know shit about TF2, but I've played enough Quake to understand that if you die for a frag you're fucking retarded. You cycle through health pick ups and try to deal as much damage as you can in each cycle. Easy as that.
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Is TF2 Classic any good?
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>>323907150
So then go play whatever the fuck you like to play.
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>>323907231
What other FPS's even come close? I dare you you post something else.
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>>323907262
>lucky crit
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>>323907292
I don't feel like playing video games, I just want to make fun of casual shitters acting like their game is hard.
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>>323907412
well then you can probably tell us games worth mastering
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I'm playing tf2 again after a long hiatus, I'm having a blast.
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>>323907262
>I dont know that tf2 has classes
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>>323907329
Cs 1.6
Quake
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>>323907329
>inb4 overwatch
sad that it's already stolen so many players from tf2's already weak comp scene.
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>>323905783
his melee weapon has guaranteed criticals when he rocket jumps so it wasn't luck
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>>323907487
There is nothing with a decent sized community. Maybe SFV.
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>>323905783
>he doesn't know about the market garden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76UNcuKSVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN0rcpq-SW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6h70gDL3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPjRoYH97Fo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v3tv1PrCgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPjRoYH97Fo

>>323907262
>I might not know shit about TF2
You don't, but at least you admitted it.
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>>323907031
>used to be like
That's from like a day ago
Comp TF2 still exists, and there's nothing stopping you from playing it too.
>>323907621
>FROYO disbands because half of them are sick of b4nny's shit and half of them just want to switch to overwatch
>they can't even play Overwatch for the next month because of the downtime
>end up pugging with b4nny anyway
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>>323907816
Oops, I put the same movie twice. I meant to put in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Xn1r6CHc0
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Tf2 is pretty garbage and focuses more on hats than balancing their items.
Quake is better if you want crazy fast movement and difficult shots.
CS:GO is better for strategy
Dirty Bomb is a real man's game
Overwatch is better than all of them because its fun
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>>323905472
you haven't seen that shit where they throw guns out to deflect bullets, those fuckers are wizards or something.
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>>323907262
You don't understand how important a medic pick is.
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>>323908110
>Tf2 is pretty garbage and focuses more on hats than balancing their items.
>Overwatch is better than all of them because its fun
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>>323905472
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>>323907262
>if you die for a frag you're fucking retarded
Not in TF2, some classes(like medic and demo) are worth sacrificing for because they control so much of the pace of the game. If you're down a scout and they're down a med, you have uber advantage and can uber into them for free without worrying about them countering it. Invincible players are worth much more than one scout.
It they're down a demo and you're down a scout, you can rush and lock down the point without worrying about sticky traps or spam.
>lucky crit
It's a weapon that only crits while rocket jumping, meaning you have to reliably hit something with source's shitty melee detection while flying through the air. It's really not that great because it's inconsistent as hell.
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>>323908110
Quake and TF2 have strategy as well. And your strategies will be much more consistent and less limited without the RNG.
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>the csgo players in here who think the crit was random, and who heavily underestimate the difficulty of advanced rocket jumping and projectile aim


Your lack of familiarity with tf2 is showing. No one's mad, but if you don't know that much about the game you're better off doing some research before you try to state an opinion about it.
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>>323905472
you do realize both are full of 12 year olds right? RPGs are only genre that you cant get into immediatly rest is lolcasuals lolbuttonsmasshing xddd
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not playing tf2 again until they add a ranked mode
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>>323908110
>complain about TF2 balance and irrelevant cosmetic shit
>Dirty Bomb is a real man's game
>literally pay to win
Ok
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>>323905472
Well considering bullets actually go where you aim in TF2 yeah, its more skill based.
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>>323907329
Quake3,ut,doom2,cs1.6, painkiller,halo1
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>>323908359
It's funny because you are doing the same.
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>>323907262
Love it when dumbshits get told this hard.
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>>323908525
>halo1
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>>323908548
here's that reply you wanted
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>>323908193
not him but neither do you, the webm in the OP obviously isn't from a serious game, but on a midfight a soldier for a medic isn't a good trade.
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>>323908682
Sorry you got triggered when you talked shit about a game you didn't understand and people corrected you, fuccboi.
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>>323905472
yes, extremely skillful, he shot the ground a few times and then got a kill on a dude who barely moved.

10/10 what a great play, totally impossible to replicate. you might as well write that bf4 requires infinite skills because the dumb shit some people pull off there.

tf2 is a casual game for babbies.
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>>323908651
You either have 0 familiarity with halo 1 at a competitive level or you are just stupid
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>>323908525
>Quake 3
Alright.
>UT
Alright.
>Doom 2
We're on the topic of competitive FPS.
>CS 1.6
RNG
>Painkiller
Quake clone
>Halo 1
no
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>>323908994
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Does TF2 have matchmaking yet and the ability to turn off hats? Every public server is 30 man brony fest.
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holy shit, can you fags stop playing this ancient shit so that valve can actually start making games again
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>>323908994
>shitty netcode: the game

Halo 2 and Halo 3 are much better in regards of competitive play.
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>being so buttblasted that you suck at counter-strike that you make this thread every day

CS takes skill, deal with it
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>>323907604
>>323908525
>current year
>Quake 3: Dead
>UT: Why would you ever play UT when Quake exists?
>Doom 2: Dead
>1.6: Garbage. See: Thread
>Painkiller: Dead
>Halo 1: Dead

Again. Name another FPS other than TF2 or CSGO worth talking about.
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>>323909092
>Does TF2 have matchmaking yet
Yes. I've never used it.
>and the ability to turn off hats
You might be able to customize them into blank textures or something, I don't know.
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>>323908525
Painkiller is fucking garbage. Seeing it mentioned among classic games upsets me.
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>>323908994
The only skill in that game is compensating for the shitty netcode.
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>>323909172
>sucking at RNG
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>>323909150
The netcode is only an issue if you are playing on xbc or halo 1 pc...at an actual event the game is flawless
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>>323907671
>>323907751
He didnt say it was random you fucking retards
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halo 2 has more meta than any fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8HtTQOXKA4
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>>323909303
>Talk about Halo CE guys!!!!
>Netcode is garbage
>Yeah but its good on LAN!
All those extremely popular Halo CE LAN's :^) again, dead (casual) game

Faggot
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I do prefer the pace of games like quake 3 and tf2, but try to play counterstrike, it's not gonna be easy either. They have more precision exchange for mobility, though aiming is easier because of the lack of mobility, you"ll still get decimated if you start body shotting someone who will just drop you in one headshot.
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>>323909298

>sucking at baby's first tactical FPS and then whining about it on /v/
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>>323908521
What bullets? Every weapon is explosives.
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>>323909391
How does the criticism make sense if it wasn't in relation to an assumption that the melee critical was scored by chance rather than by design? From context it's obvious that he thought the critical melee was random.
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>>323909092
>Every public server is 30 man brony fest.
take mlp out of your search tags faggot. i havent seen a pony sprayy or avatar in months
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>>323909303
I wish I had played it more in LAN.
>start up PC Halo:CE for the first time in years
>90% BRs
>have to aim 2 feet in front of the target with hitscan weapons
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>>323908210
>>323908517
Sorry you guys were born with shit taste and only find gratification from rocket jumps and cheese spy plays.
Reminder that your professional scene is literally a joke since there is no real high level of play but is also a cluster fuck casually. It's too casual and too random for very technical play but too much bs with crits and awful hit detection to stay fun casually.
Even load out is more reliable and dirty bomb has a class rotation with classes that can be bought with in game points. It's kind of needed since garbage like tf2 has a rear naked choke hold on the market due to the massive amount of shitty clones painting the idea for the general consumer that it sadly doesn't get any better then this while valve spouts another cake reference and considers a sequel to the same old IPs.
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>>323909172
I swill admit that I'm not that great at CS, but desu it still wasn't that difficult for me to reach GE. I know it's matchmaking, but that seems to be the only thing that matters to most people in CSGO. I don't intend on playing on a team, so I don't bother playing ESEA/CEVO/FACEIT.
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CSGO is as competitive as call of duty
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>>323909092
>Every public server is 30 man brony fest.
There are maybe 1-2 bronies per server, if at all. Honestly I see a lot more people that act like someone from 4chan and/or reddit.
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>>323909615
inb4
>b-but weapun patterns!!
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>>323909092
>>323909547

There were abundant in 2013, but I've barely seen anime dunkeys since 2014 in tf2. Furfags have been spraying their gay shit since 2008 and even more after it went f2p though
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>>323909586
Halo ce doesnt have brs and is not hitscan
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>>323909596
>but too much bs with crits
Thanks for proving you know fuck all about TF2 m8 :^)
Dirty Bomb is a garbage version of ET and a garbage versionof CS. It's the worst of both worlds and has nothing going for it.
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>>323909786
>and is not hitscan
What are
-AR
-Magnum
-Shotgun
-Sniper rifle
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>>323909647
What he means is there are people with characters that have lots of painted accessories on and that bothers him.
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>TF2 is a serious and competitive game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cmasMp7Nx0
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>>323909786
>and is not hitscan
Then what about the assault rifle? The sniper rifle? The shotgun?

Those are hitscan weapons.
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>>323909903
Netcode is so shit he thinks there's bullet travel
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>>323909960
am i getting memed on or do you not know what hitscan means
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>>323909903
None of those use hitscan shot detection..halo ce on pc is very very different from the xbox version..the game engines are very different
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>>323910017
I think he meant to reply to >>323909786

That's the only way his post would make sense.
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>>323909960
Replying to the guy you're replying to
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>>323910089
>being this retarded
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They aren't really comparable games. Tf2 has classes, and each class has it's own set of weapons, and those weapons all have variants of their own. CS has a variety of different weapons available to everyone, some take skill, some don't. You can't tell me that running Phlog pyro or spawncamping as a Demo is more skillful than hitting a nice Juan Deag or HE kill, and you can't tell me spraying everyone down with a P90 takes more skill than headshotting a running scout. There's too many variables in each game to be able to compare which is more skillful.
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>>323909150
>shitty netcode
>Halo 3 is much better in regards of comp
At least try
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>>323910089
>the game engines are very different
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>>323909960
Have you actually played the game...literally go into campaign for 5 seconds and shoot at a moving enemy...you very clearly have to lead your shot
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>>323909586
Get good.

"Don't shoot where the target is. Shoot where the target will be."
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>>323905904
Sniping in the two games aren't even the same type of playstyle. Honestly, I would say that Heavy is more comparable to AWPing than Sniper is.
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>>323905472
More impressive to watch? Definitely, I think tf2 is much more exciting than csgo.

But more skill required? Nope, its really just point and click. Rocket jumping and other tricks aren't any more difficult than, say, quickscoping in csgo. You might even say it takes a lot less skill, since most classes have weapons that require hardly any precision.
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>>323905472
>1 kill then got dominated
Wow that is so much skill
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>>323905472
>TF2
>skill
What is Pyro?
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>>323910548
lol
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>>323907031
funny. i rarely see that when i play.
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>>323910626
He's shat on in Highlander where he's run most of the time, and only run in 6's to juggle their uber on last.
>b-but pubs
Irrelevant
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>>323910626
low skill-floor, moderate skill ceiling class that isn't standard for competitive matches.
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>>323910814
The trick is not to play on fucking 2fort of all places.
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>Thinking TF2 requires skill
>Playing CS:GO matchmaking and using it for comparison
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>>323910548
>But more skill required? Nope, its really just point and click.

Let me put that into better context:

CS is a good game...
But more skill required? Nope, its really just point and click.
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>>323910626
>complaining about pyro
>thinking TF2 takes no skill
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>>323910874
Exactly.
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>>323910932
>Spray Pattern

>Movement Inaccuracy
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>>323905472
The problem is that no one gives a shit about skill anymore. Why do you think LoL and Hearthstone are so huge? Everyone just wants to be competitive without actually being good at all.
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>>323907816
Ace, go to sleep.
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>>323910843
>competitive TF2
Is this even a thing? How? Last time i check competitive scene had like 10 people
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>>323906207
Literally for the "luck is also a skill" crowd
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>>323910932
>Spray Pattern

>Movement Inaccuracy

No, not really. TF2 isn't either, to be fair. But in general, I would say CS gunplay is a bit tougher than TF2.
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>>323911090
The word you're looking for is RNG
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>>323911140
It used to be. I don't know I haven't followed the competitive scene in like 6 years. I seriously doubt teams have changed from the 2-2-1-1 standard though.
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>>323911209
>Minimal RNG when standing still

>Basically useless to shoot while moving

Your point?
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>>323905472
Frags in q3 require infinitely more skill and a infinitely more impressive than TF2. This isn't even debatable.
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>>323911209
>2016
>Not being able to put an entire M4 mag in a 4 inch grouping at 100 units every time
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>competitive tf2
>join as heavy
>maul and rape everything in sight
>anon you aren't supposed to use heavy in competitive tf2
>get kicked
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>>323905472
as cool as that was, he got killed immediately afterwards. not exactly the best way of doing things
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>>323911338
Are you trying to say that TF2 is to CS:GO as Q3 is to TF2? Just curious what your point is, because I don't think many people will try and debate your statement, whereas many people in this thread have tried to "debate" OP's statement.
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>>323911429
>heavy
>outside of pubs
prove it fag
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>>323911429
I question the veracity of your post.
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>>323911451
>not knowing how incredibly helpful medic picks are in competitive
Nice try
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>>323911542
Pretty sure he's just making a pointless statement like the OP (even though he's right about Q3 compared to TF2) in jest. Also, many people in the thread don't need to debate the OP because his statement is mentally retarded and the burden of proof is on him.
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>>323911451
Medic kills are worth sacrificing a Soldier over.
You take out the only class on their team that can heal and you reset their ubercharge. Competitive matches are basically defined by proper uber usage.
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>>323910814
I got kicked for killing a group of them on pl_upward. They're rare, but they're there
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>>323911338
Your statement is still true, but it's worth mentioning that your webm is q3 cpma gameplay.
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>>323908730
>obviously isn't from a serious game
Highlander shitter detected
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>>323911429
anyone can play heavy, his skill ceiling is lower than pyro
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>>323909823
>random crits don't make the game unfair
>you know nothing :^)

And at least dirty bomb does a good job of keeping the "lel zanny" while still being fun and fair. But keep thinking your good for having airstrike crits on kill. Yea if you get a lucky crit, you should be rewarded by being a one shoting monster.

It's funny. Tf2 literally has RNG built in the game as an attribute but that's OK. It's just dumb in CS
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>>323911338
>a flick kill is impressive
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>used to tryhard scout
>would always fucking suck and switch back to engineer/sniper
>one day decide to play scout with the sole purpose of being an annoying fuck instead of kill people
>shoot, retreat, go different route, shoot, repeat
>end up dominating half the enemy team with 64 kills and 5 deaths
>whatthefuck.jpg
>suddenly realize that to play scout effectively you need to not try at all and instead fuck around as much as you can and have fun

Welp.
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>>323912579
You know that there's no such thing as a random critical conpetitively, right? In fact, there's a lot of tf2 pubs that also turn off the random spread on shotgun weapons, too.
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>>323913228
the scout is like a spy without the disguise and cloaking
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>>323913605
I suck at spy, and most people who i've seen go spy suck as well.

At least I have enough sense to change up the disguise and never go scout as spy because of the movement issues.
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>>323913893
>Back in the day Dead Ringer was basically a shield that blocked anything
>Snipers spawncamping me
>Go out with the DR disguised as a friendly Heavy
>They try to headshot me and miss
>They rage about the server being laggy
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>>323913893
Scout is a suprisingly useful disguise, actually. If you backpedal a lot/bunny hop
It makes it difficult to distinguish you from a spy, and with the tiny model the scout has you can hide very easily while decloaked.
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>>323914816
Scouts still move at 120% base speed when backpedaling, so spies are easy to spot.

Maybe I've just never seen a good spy, and trying to youtube spy gameplay is always just a bunch of gay compilation videos of trickstabs.
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>>323915075
you should use scout disguise when playing vs better players because the scout disguise has fucked up hitboxes and youre not supposed to rely on your disguise. instead you should stay out of los and if they see you they might just think that "oh that is a scout thats why he is in a fucked up place"

in pubs almost always use sniper because theres so many of them..
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>>323911140
Nigger, UGC has been having 50+ teams each season for years on Iron/Open HL divisions alone.
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