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Will it be good?
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I think so.
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I'm buying it just for the summons.

ramuh my shit up
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I am leaning towards yes, but we haven't played the final combat system or seen it in action in a long time. Haven't quite gotten a look at the final magic system, and how larger city environments and stuff play out.
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>>323896016

>instead

Luckily I'm not retarded, and can get both.
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probably, I doubt it will be amazing or anything though
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So, what are the chances of this having a pc release?
How's FF's pc versions doing anyway? Kikes are never satisfied, but is it at least getting their money back?
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>>323896270
I'd say pretty high since they got the 13 series. Now when you'll get them is a different story.
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>>323896360
I kinda wish I waited to play 13 on the PC. Its one of the few in the series I can't bring myself to play again but it looks SO much nicer on PC.
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>>323896270
Sometime after console launch. Tabata has said multiple times they currently do not have a plan for PC. The game is super into grind time to get it out 2016, PC would have to wait till next year sometime
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I'm optimistic.
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>>323895725
I hope it will.
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>>323895725

Cautiously optimistic. I played Episode Duscae 1.0-2.0, but I deleted it because being in Archylte Steppe 2.0 got really boring after a while. I really want this game to be good, but I might cut my wrists if it doesn't.

The framerate was pretty shitty, but obviously I give that the benefit of the doubt when I play demos.

Like another anon said, we don't know what the final gameplay looks like, so there's also that.
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>>323896016
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>>323895725

No

Combat blows and the framerate is dogshit PS1 level.
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I don't know man. I love jrpgs but I absolutely hate dealing with a goddamn idiotic AI as party members. Also I'm not seeing any tactical aspects in the combat system. As it stands, since both of them apparently come out on the same day, I lean towards getting P5 first.
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>>323895725
No. Ofcourse not.
>Sub20fps
>consider squares track record for the last decade
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>>323897646

Speaks the fucking truth.
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>>323895725
Partly, maybe. As a whole? Nope.
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>>323895725
>people making opinions based on the Duscae Demo's gameplay and performance when they still have showcase the new build in March.

I think we can honestly form a more solid opinion by then.
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>>323898024
Why wait when you can shitpost right now :^)
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>>323898024
It doesn't even have to be until March, they're showing off new battle gameplay late this month, which means within the next two weeks.
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>>323898024
Because it will change nothing.
The framerate will still be shit, and it will still be made by square, who havent made a good game in 10 years.

>he thinks that the retards that are raping the FF7 remake are capable of releasing a good game.

>FF15 has been stuck in development hell for 10 years
Its gonna be duke nukem forever all over again.
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>>323897646
>>323897686
samefag lol
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>>323898245
>it will still be made by square, who havent made a good game in 10 years.
you are wrong.
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>>323898245
>he thinks that the retards that are raping the FF7 remake are capable of releasing a good game.

Holy fuck dont remind me
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>>323898245
I can bet you haven't even put 10 minutes into actually researching the people currently working at SE or the projects they've worked on.
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>>323898470
butthurt ffag detected
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>>323898835
You just gave 3 examples of why you are wrong.
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>>323898835
Thanks for proving his point.
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>>323898906
>>323898951
shut up.
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>>323899132
Assfractured FFbabby detected
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>>323898906
>>323898951
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>>323899204
>no side buttons
Ew.
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>>323899273
>Ricer mice
back to reddit with you
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>>323895725
Yeh
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>>323899359
>convenient things are reddit
Nice meme.
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>>323898245
The framerate is already 30fps at 1080p without drops ever since August 2015 and every new footage since too

The demo is from an unoptimized 2014 build which is why it had drops

Stop being retarded and do some research
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>>323895725
If they fixed the combat and it's on par with E3 2013 and TGS 2014, then there's hope
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>>323898906
>>323898951
The FFXIII series is one of the greatest RPGs ever created and you WILL respect it.
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>>323899554
>Framerate is 30 fps

You couldnt even finish your first sentence without telling a lie.

>Its a beta
>its unoptimized
>they'll fix it
>its a new engine

Keep being a sad little apologist mate. FF15 is a flop.

It cant even get 20 fps when there is jack shit on screen
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>>323899675
>Greatest RPG blunders ever created

FTFY
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>>323899765
>lying on the internet
They fixed the framerate with the demo's update already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o

Recent PS4 footage already is running smoothly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUmFz-GsvW0

How do you find fun in shitposting about things you don't even know about anyway?
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this seems like some twisted frankestein of a project. random parts that make no sense glued together in the hopes something good will be made.
it reminds me of resident evil 6
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>>323899831
>FTFY
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>>323900037
>Fixed
>even in the prerendered cutscene the FPS already drops to 20.
>framedrops everywhere, even for simply shopping
>framedrops aplenty in actual gameplay

CANT EVEN GET STABLE 30 AND THERE IS LITERALLY FUCK ALL ON SCREEN.
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>>323900258
>>323899543
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>>323900348
>moving goalposts
>ignoring the more recent build footage
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I'm playing Duscae right now.

My only issues so far are
>locked walking speed a la Naughty Dog
>force stops for a little dust-off animation after every battle
>Cindy (not Cidney) with a hick dialect

Pretty fun though, the combat is interesting.
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>>323900037
Did they fix the ugly as fuck textures? I never had framerate problems but it looked like a 720p game trying to pretend it wasn't.
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>>323900610
He's not moving anything, are you retarded? Do you even know what this means?
They didn't "fix" it if it still constantly drops below 30.
>recent build
Where does it say that it's running on a PS4? Where's a proof of that?
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>>323900870
>"He's"ing at (You)
>Implying increasing the average framerate isn't fixing it
>Where does it say that it's running on a PS4? Where's a proof of that?
They told that after the TGS - Chocobo footage was running on PC, while PAX is the latest PS4 build.
And they're still in the process of optimization
So eat shit.
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>>323896016
>Weebshit is never good.
>Get a shit Valkyria clone instead
Oh the irony
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>>323901312
>>"He's"ing at (You)
Not me though.
>They told
Cool.
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>>323895725
Yes.
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>>323895725
Where's the fucking ATR Tabata you faggot?
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>>323901453
What other source do you need though if the developers' words don't cut it for you? Why would they tell the TGS version is running on PC then as well?

You're shitting on it for the sake of it. Why do you even care if you're not interested in the game?
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Real talk, can we trust him?
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>>323895725
It can't possibly not be good. I mean it will probably be cringy and japanese but it'll be a fucken quality game
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>>323896270
Considering it's SE, and they keep saying they have no plans for a PC version ever, you can expect PC version by 2020-2022 depending on how long they want to drag their feet.
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>>323901736
I'm still cautious about him.
From one perspective he does talk like a passionate guy and wants to create a great game, but some of the bullshit his spout makes me hate him.
>My old hands can't handle a proper action game
>We dumbed down Noct on purpose to make the party members feel useful
>You can totally fight like in E32013 footage (fastforward 1 year)...Well, we're thinking how to implement these features but can't guarantee anything
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>>323901824
>cringy and japanese
It's a japanese game yes. You'd rather see them force the game to pander to murrican culture despite them not being part of it? That has never worked before, it just kill creativity.
Grow up and accept the fact that other cultures exist.
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>>323901736
I can't. Which sucks because I want Type-Next to be good.
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>>323895725
Hopefully.
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Demo has been good so I don't see why not.
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>>323901736
Well Nomura did the majority of the work

And I trust Nomura
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>>323899765
>You couldnt even finish your first sentence without telling a lie.
You couldn't even bother to read the fucking sentence without being retarded

Since August 2015 every new footage of XV has been 1080p and 30FPS without drops, every new footage in August, September+ has been 1080p at 30FPS

The demo was from 2014 unoptimized build using outdated everything including combat, and was released to the public March 2015

And ever since the June 2015 update the demo FPS has been 27-30FPS, most of the time 30FPS

It was never "20" FPS in combat.

You obviously have not been following the game at all so what the fuck do you know?
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>>323902346
He did for Versus. XV is like 70% a different game. They probably pushed him off the project because he didn't want to reconcile with dropping of party members switching, making the multi-part saga out of the Versus universe, etc.
It's pretty much not his game anymore, he even didn't say a word about it in his latest Famitsu interview about 2016
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>>323900348
>prerendered cutscene
Jesus fucking christ you really are retarded.

And you literally ignored the newer fucking build in the second video he linked which is constant 30FPS without drops
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>>323901736
This is a Nomura/Tabata game, not a pure Tabata game.

Nomura and Tabata were both directors since 2012, and Nomura even earlier, and then Nomura only left in late 2014 so he could get started on FF7R, and since then the development side of things was just Tabata overseeing the mass production phase and seeing it through to release, the groundwork and all that was already set before Nomura left.
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>>323902479
> XV is like 70% a different game.

No XV is literally 95% of what Versus was, barely anything was changed.
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>>323895725
No.

Somehow "action combat" that SE created is more braindead than the old turn based combat that they had.

The only people excited for this shit are faggots.
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I haven't been following XV that closely. Is that Alan Rickman lookalike character seem to play a major role from what's known?
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>>323901353
>Valkyria clone
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>>323902706
Aside from
>KHII-like gameplay
>Party members switching
>More mature and darker themes than in all previous FFs
>Yakuza-like structur of Lucis family
>Party Members switching
>Cartwheels instead of dodge-rolls
>Double-jumps
>Riding on enemies' mechas
>the whole Versus Epic thing with it being a multi-part series as per initial Nomura's intentions
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>>323902801
He's Noctis's dad and has been featured pretty heavily in recent promotional material so yes.
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>>323898245
Sounds like there is nothing they could do to make you like the game. So why are you even in a thread about it?
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>>323902801
SPOILER

He'll also literally die of cancer. No pun.
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>>323902998
Yeah, pretty sad about that.
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>>323902921
I think this new design is pretty cool, but man, it's a tad more generic than the old one. He looked like Alan Rickman (what a fucking bummer his death, fucking 2016...)

The sword there is really cool, love the design. Hopefully we'll be able to wield it. I prefer it to the Noctis' weird one (although it's pretty iconic by now if you've followed the game these years).
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>>323902380
XV-kun pls go
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>>323903207
Fuck, didn't finish the first sentence:

and was incredibly cool, elegant and fierce, with the rich mafia guy theme more prominent than now (although still exists). I'm not too in love with the younger ones' designs, but the older characters are top fucking notch so far.
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>>323902889
>based on an incomplete demo that doesn't even have a magic system
Seriously stop
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>>323902889
>KHII-like gameplay
Exactly the same combat in XV demo as Versus 2011 had for Noctis

>Party members switching
Nomura changed this in favour of manual weapon switching

>More mature and darker themes
None of this has changed, XV still has dark traielrs and the Dawn trailer had even darker themes than the older Versus trailers did

>Yakuza-like structur of Lucis family
None of this has changed, it is still Yakuza structure

>Cartwheels instead of dodge-rolls
Cartwheels are still in, as are dodge rolls, you do know there are mutliple different actions you can set to the dodge, right? You can set warp dodges, dodge rolls, cartwheel dodges, whatever

>Double-jumps
There was never double jump, there was only platform jump that we saw in 2011, and they already said Noctis can jump bird height so jumps are upgradable, and aerial combat is still in too

>Riding on enemies' mechas
You can still do this, we even literally saw Noctis warp into the Niflheim mecha airship a few months ago

>the whole Versus Epic thing with it being a multi-part series as per initial Nomura's

XV was never "mutlipart", ever since it became XV it has been one single game, the Versus Epic was trademarked only for XV on possibily of them wanting to do other stuff with the XV world, Nomura literally said back in 2013 that they do not have sequels planned and that XV will be a single game with its own climax, and Tabata has said the same thing last year

When it was Versus it was going to be multiple games but then when they turned it into XV they condensed all those games into one single massive game


The world is still the same, the overall story is still the same, the 20 characters we've seen since day one are all still the same except for one character modified into a slightly different character, the battle system designer, animators, enemy battle designers, VAs, level designers, composer, producer, artists etc are all the same since Versus

All the changes happened by Nomura
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>>323903389
Most of these were confirmed to be absent after the demo released on numerous ATRs or whatnot, and you know that as well as I do.

Seriously, FFXV-kun, I admire your love for this game, but you should stop lying to people and yourself to make everyone love this game without any doubts or questions, this is an unhealthy attitude.
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How bad will the load times be?
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>>323903207
Both look like Alan Rickman.

His old one looked like Alan Rickman Hans Gruber, his new one looks like Alan Rickman as Rasputin.
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>>323903581
>Most of these were confirmed to be absent after the demo released on numerous ATRs or whatnot,
No they weren't, you are literally talking out of your ass

The only thing from Versus not in XV combat wise is character switching, because they replaced it with manual weapon switching which fulfills the same purpose of combat variety
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>>323903529
why do you do this?
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>>323903594
True, you can see that especially in the concept art. Still dissapointed, as his old design was one of my favourites in the entire franchise. Hopefully he still shows himself in that nice suit he had (and still has under the armour).

BTW, are there going to be extra costumes for the main characters? They said that, iirc, but I'm not too sure.

I hope it's not like Tales of and make the majority of them as something you have to pay. I don't really like the main characters' clothes (except for Ignis'. I'd like Gladio too if he had a shirt on. Noctis' could be cool if they jacket wasn't so long and had full trousers).

Oh, man, can't wait for March. Hopefully they manage to keep my hype up.
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>>323903529
>Exactly the same combat in XV demo as Versus 2011 had for Noctis
Except it exactly isn't, and you know that. Those cherry-picked moments have been pointed out countless times - the demo still doesn't have KHII-like aerial combat system, magic cancelling, cartwheeling, double-jumping, crush moves-cancelling into each other, etc. (half of these are confirmed to be absent from the main game).
>Party members switching
Nomura changed this in favour of manual weapon switching
He didn't. Manual weapon switching was implemented based on the demo feedback, and E3 footage still had party members switching, and the decision to drop it came afterwards.
>None of this has changed, it is still Yakuza structure
To be confirmed.
>Cartwheels are still in, as are dodge rolls, you do know there are mutliple different actions you can set to the dodge, right? You can set warp dodges, dodge rolls, cartwheel dodges, whatever
Cart-wheels are now post-hit recovery move, not an actual dodging tool.
>There was never double jump, there was only platform jump that we saw in 2011, and they already said Noctis can jump bird height so jumps are upgradable, and aerial combat is still in too
Why do you outright lie? There was a clear double jump move off the ground in Versus XIII 2011 trailer
>You can still do this, we even literally saw Noctis warp into the Niflheim mecha airship a few months ago
Warping to != riding. Yet to be confirmed.
>V was never "mutlipart", ever since it became XV it has been one single game
No, Nomura specifically told, there were much more stories to be told in Versus universe which couldn't fit in one game and he planned for sequels/spin-offs, then Tabata decide to re-organize everything into one main game after Nomura left the project.

Once again >>323903581
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>no magic
>empty open world
>QTE-based 'press X to win' combat
>no female party members (RIP Stella)
>censored by SJWs
This isn't Final Fantasy imho....
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>>323904086
He was the same during the whole TGS 2014 reannouncement. He tried to spin the interview Tabata gave about not being able to control the rest of the guys as something only found in the demo and, at first, a mistranslation.
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>>323904228
>>no female party members (RIP Stella)
She was never meant to be a party member
>>censored by SJWs
Where?
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>modern FF
>good


the only real question is will people be more butthurt when this is complete shit or the FF7 remake is complete shit
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I still want to know how finalniggers can be excited for this shit when final fantasy hasn't be good since IX.

Also the demo was completely garbage. The combat had no depth to it whatsoever, the fps were terrible and the game overall felt more like a MMORPG than an actual Final Fantasy game.
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>>323902637
The battle system is a huge part of the groundwork and it's all Tabata, I really doubt it.
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>>323904228
Shit Social Justice Retards have already gotten to FFXV?
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>>323904406
>hating on FFXII

Opinion discarded right away
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>>323902887
Right, that sound too good for what it actually is, you dumb frogposter.
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>>323904251
He just seem to be really troubled when he's being proved wrong about this game. Some weeks ago he tried to convince me non-existent gameplay mechanics were present in the demo despite being proven wrong about it countless time. He just fell into the full delusion mode and engaged caps-lock shouting about everyone being BTFO'd but him
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>>323904507
Yasumi Matsuno only made two great FF related games: Vagrant Story and FFT.

FFXII isn't one of them.
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>>323902380
>cherrypicking stills when it says 30FPS

You know we can all see the bar that shows all the framedrops, right?

>it was never 20 fps
You jsut cant stop telling lies, can you.
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>>323902489
Yes, its a prerendered cutscene.
If you think that that is ingame, you're in no position to claim anyone is retarded.
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>>323904371
Both FFXV and FF7R will be complete shit.

The real question is this:

Will Final Fantasy Faggots just eat it up like they did with FFXIII, or will they finally say enough?
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>>323904994
You're baiting him, right? Please say you do.
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>>323904371
FFXV for me. Could not give less of a flying fuck about a remake as long as the original game is still a perfectly viable option.
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FFXV-kun being fucked by Tabata r34 when?
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>>323900037
Holy shit, ultimate comfy
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>>323905913
After the ones with Kagari pegging him. Fucker is obsessed with her.
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>>323900682
What do you mean locked walk? You can run. Do you just mean locked in some instances?
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>>323906984
Yes, I mean context-sensitive speed limits.

I used Naughty Dog as the analog because they do this a lot in Uncharted and The Last of Us, which Tabata recently said the game takes storytelling cues from.
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>>323896270
100%, there's no way that they'll make their money back with just the PS4 release, just like FF13
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>>323908762
Honestly that's not a bad reference point, even though the story is the only ok thing that came out from TLOU
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>>323904228
>censored by SJWs
No it hasnt, everyone was laughing their asses off when tabata's response to cidney's design was saying he didnt intend for her to be sexy and doesnt feel liike she is so no need to change it, then just started drinking beer almost immediately afterwords.

Its included in that one picure showing the contrast between western devs giving into sjws and the jap ones not giving a fuck.
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My husbando is in it, so I will gladly fork out as much money as needed.
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>>323895725
Hopefully, yes. I haven't played Duscae yet so I'm not sure but I like what I have seen in the trailers.
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>>323895725
Nah.
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