Beta is back up. How are you guys enjoying this shit? I like it a lot. Helps that it comes free.
Cloak and Dagger a shit
if you played mgo1 and 2 youre gonna think its shit
if you are new to mgo youre gonna love it
same shit with killzone 1/2 multi to 3. 3 was total shit
Making a server with "Serious Business" as all three host comments. Pass is Rage.
>Ready to launch in approximately: 2 hours 15 minutes
Guess it won't appear for /v/ people. Sorry.
The CQC in this game is god damn terrible, shit.
>playing very terribly
>suddenly have one really good match
>holy shit I just took out 7 guys Jesus Christ
>I'M VIRTUALLY INVINCIBLE
>"You have been disconnected from the session."
That's mostly lag. In low-ping/near LAN it's not that bad.
That said, the amount of hackers I've ran into today is pretty hilarious. That and Infiltrator is straight up trash in my hands. The stun shotgun is shit and any time I attempt to flank I'm shot by people that I have no heads up on since the scouts won't actually... spot.
Played it on PS4, had a lot of fun for a few weeks then it just got stale, I'm guessing the same is gonna happen to you guys. Here's a tip, the scout's sensor grenades can utterly destroy the opposing team if used efficiently.
Binocs. But they changed the spot speed on PC it seems. On consoles even Infiltrators seem to get spots quickly and they're the slowest to get 100%.
Basically if you're a scout you shouldn't be running around like a headless chicken like the other two classes. Your Enemy Locators will auto-spot in a certain area (so you can spam them if you want to headless chicken but don't die too much). But in general for that class, you hang back, camp somewhere (with plushies generally) and pull out the binocs and see anyone you can find and hold it for like 1.5 seconds to get the mark.
Oh, I want to be so done with leveling Infiltrator and doing it's Prestige (or whatever MGO calls it) one time for that outfit. Soooo not good with the class, but have an avatar for all the classes just to try them out.
I really can't find a groove for Infiltrator that isn't "get shot from all over the map and die when attempting to flank like everyone else".
Well that's the thing, I think I find good cover or crawl and take wide berths around people and still somehow get found before I'm behind the enemy to CQC choke and shank them. :/
>mark everyone on the enemy team in C&D in the first minute of the match
>the enemy team quickly finds and starts shooting at me with AA turrets and mortars
>wind up dying really early on
>my entire team is all grouped together doing nothing
It gives your team a heads up on enemy positions, highlights them for "ten seconds" (unless they use a box) and gives you an assist bonus if they're killed by someone that's not you.
It's basically a free +100 if you're team is killing the folks you mark while they get +100-200 based on headshots and the kill.
>MVP every match with scout
Utterly fucking retarded
Between the snipers damage, mouse controls and the auto aim this is so fucking unbalanced i dont even see why anyone bothers with any other class
Also, stop wasting everyones time and just kill the fuckers, if you can mark them could have killed them instead.
>hey this is garbage even by console shooter standards
>no one plays on a team and every mode is just deathmatch
>exp is minimal and unlocks take too long/aren't worth it most of the time
What do you think?
>guy CQC slams me to ground
>shoots me to death
>dropped grenade blows up in his face
It never gets old.
i was goddamn hyped for this at launch. but my hype dead after fucking 4 months. thanks i am going to download this 20gb piece of shit again.i hope it doesnt disappoint.
I'm not sure how interrogation works.
One time I interrogated one dude and it revealed pretty much the entire team's location and it swinged the entire game in our favor and got us the win.
But I've interrogated three people since then, and it seems they locate themselves and maybe one more person at most.
What decides this? Is it random?
It's a bit hollow having MGO3 be your first MGO. It's fun, yeah, but I feel like it's just a bit too underdeveloped and generic.
>play a round of MGO
>game gets stuck in post-game loading screen
>have to Alt-F4
>wait through TPP AND MGO startup
>10 minutes later get into another match
>match is over in 7 minutes
>game gets stuck in post-game loading screen
>have to Alt-F4
Literally Every. Single. Time.
Konami LA deserved to get fired. I've never in my life seen a more absolutely shameful display.
I don't know about the other classes so I can't say if they're better or worse, but I really enjoy playing as the Infiltrator and am easily in the Top 2 of my team.
I go fully non-lethal too, which is completely optional. You can go full lethal and use the camouflage to fuck shit up, which is probably more effective, but I enjoy getting next to people, cqcing them, possibly interrogating them, and then fultoning them away. There's no better feeling.
I hate these fucking retards
>infil dives in front of me but not close enough to melee me
>somehow his reach is far enough to knock me down
>get tranq'd and fultoned
>they get 8 tickets
>played for about 5 hours so far
>haven't been Ocelot or Snek once
>create kinda cutie on left
>"Do you want to create this avatar?"
>Suddenly looks like on the right
Cool, guess I'll be wearing a ski mask.
Before I dive in and play. Are headshots 1 hit kill disregarding the weapon you use (be it a pistol) and range? I've been playing rainbow six siege and 9mm killing a guy with a big fucking helmet at 30 meters is just a fucking joke.
Played all four MGO games before this to varying excess. 3, 4, PO and PW.
That there is no post-damage invulnerability after every shot that lands (as it was in MGS3, MGS4 and Portable Ops) alone is enough to make this the best by far.
All of the available maps in this beta have varying uneven terrain almost everywhere rather than the mostly flat levels of the previous games, and gun handling is a lot more nuanced with slight sway when sighted and inaccuracy when moving, eliminating the strafing-headshot gameplay of the previous MGOs.
Hearing all the console players complaints and now getting to play it, it makes sense that CQC and shotguns would rule the skies. But with the absolute camera movement of a mouse, automatics have been dealing with shotgunners quite effectively and snipers can land long range headshots without having to fight any twitchy acceleration.
This feels great on PC, like it was made to be a PC game. The not-flat maps, the minute degrees of inaccuracy that are not likely to be managed manually with a thumbstick, and the very swift mobility that characters have and that aiming, movement and actions can be bound in a way that everything is in reach without removing your fingertips from anything critical (compared to a console controller where you'd have to do a clumsy Claw or take your thumb off of a stick to press face buttons) were probably a nightmare for console players.
The only annoyance is how sloppy CQC is. But it's always been bad in every MGO.
how can i join the beta ?
i got the game on steam since day 1.
Jap games are notorious for being retarded, then again Kane and Lynch online play also had this with everybody's mic constantly on on shitty auto-detect.
Which ofcourse means several Brazilians screaming constantly and all manner of pet birds and children in the background yelling and yelping.
Protip if you're attached to thin cover such as the metal railings in the africa map, and you turn from left to right with the sniper rifle on your back, the rifle will clip through the cover briefly revealing your position to observers.
Pretty fucking shitty, dude. Same with all those ridiculous hats.
You need to make sure your guy has the right clothes on. You scroll down the menu to fast and he will be stuck with enforcer clothing. Go slowly and make sure he's wearing black.
What is there to miss from MGO2?
Dealing with KONAMI ID on top of PSN?
That horrible lag and performance?
The hilarious death screens?
Having to go through that horrible site for customization options?
Handguns being the best sniper rifles in the game?
Can't say i miss MGO2 maybe my nostalgia goggles are broken.
They should just bring back the old tsne style. There is literally no point if both teams have stealth, it makes it unbalanced. They need to add Sne and res aswell as some old maps UU and GG would be a great start they seem to be improving it little by little at least on consoles.
Does MGO have some sort of anticheat on PC?
I expect a lot of cheat engine users.
Where are the fucking hair options, girls only get dyke cuts? Come on man. And the customization, god it's fucking barebones. 3 jackets, 80% the hats are the lolsorandumb as possible.
And....I mean the game's pretty fun actually but it could be so much more.
But the BB corp has nice long hair. Most of them anyway.
Raging Raven best girl btw
All this lag from P2P bullshit is making me want to straight up hack so I at least have some kind of advantage over this shit.
>getting shot around walls constantly
>dying in 1-2 shots anywhere on my body
>CQC someone and they immediately teleport out of my arms and shoot me from behind
>people constantly running in place then teleporting
>finally find a round that doesn't lag at all and it disconnects 2 minutes in
>they hit the ground
>die a full three seconds after from their shots which just now registered
P2P multiplayer has always been a cancer. It's obvious they're just trying to kill the game faster so they don't have to pay for servers.
>Great connection game
>Finally get a fair and fun game
>Totally wreck enemy left right and centre
>MVP by miles
>Game about to end
>Host gets mad and leaves
>Lose all my XP and the game might as well never happened
Fucking of Call of Duty had host migration and saving score after leaving 8 years ago this is ridiculous.
>mic is always on
>configured my mic to pick up the audio i hear instead of my mic
>spend the 30 first minutes of the game making scrubs listen to a mangled monsoon theme
i disabled it all now though
>because of the shitter p2p encode you can barely hear what people are saying
>can't micspam because people can't tell if it's music or if you're talking
>shoot guy in the head twice with sniper rifle
>he spins around and kills me in one shot with assault rifle
>it hit my arm
>he's at 85% HP
>playing bounty hunter
>radical larrys all over
>every time I knock out a high ticket enemy team mates shoot him before I can fulton
>team mates constantly run up to steal my fultons
>they consistently do this until we finally lose
C&D would be fun if my team wasn't a liability that cost matches.
There's also a good amount of people running one shot kill hacks; faggots with their shitty ar's are one shotting my robots left and right.
>Defenders can use stealth in C&D
Yeah this is pretty fucking stupid
>Entire attacking team can fuck up from one faggots mistake
That's kind of the point of the mode
>Can buddy teleport with the Data Disk
Eh, it's a cheese strat I guess and kind of humorous. Games don't last long enough for me to care about this one, but I can acknowledge it's bullshit
I'm out of webms and redownload ends in 5 minutes, later nerds
The game is fun but they tried their hardest to make it not.
Really bad p2p connections, no host migration and lack of customization are dreadful. They're not going to fix any of these issues either.
Oh you mean your default avatar. I am not quite sure how that worked. I believe there is something in the single player menus that allows you to change yourself I think. Not quite certain though.
This is on PC now dummy. It is just the beta though.
>>team mates constantly run up to steal my fultons
If I don't see anyone right next to a knocked out person, I'll fulton them myself, and I'd rather people do the same for my knockouts. It's way more safe than taking a second to look around for the guy who knocked him out, and figuring out if he died, knocked him out at range, or is just right off screen.
I hope the characters are stored client-side, so it'll be possible to get them back into the editor with CE or something. At the very least, I hope it'll be possible to change their voice.
Speaking of voices, they really need to bring back rookie soldier Freeman CODEC.
>PC users have no games to play that they actually think MGO3 is good
>create new character
>play a few games and level up
>go level resets to 1 every time after a mission
>restart game hoping it's a visual bug
>character is gone
THIS IS SO FUCKING EPIC
>guy knocks me out
>3 enemies swarm around and one of them fultons me
>another shoots the balloon
>kill all of them while they're running around trying to figure out where they're getting shot from
What the fuck.
I love it when retards collide in this game.
>there are people who don't use the cardboard box
>have a great couple rounds
>then after loading into a match the screen goes black but I still hear sounds
yay for toaster gaming, even though the main game had always been fine
maybe it's just the game being beta
>there are people who use bgm in cloak and dagger
>Handguns being the best sniper rifles in the game?
Did handguns have one shot capabilities even with chest hits? Even the M14BR was miles above any handgun. Don't talk shit. Even if that were true I'd rather have handguns be better sniper rifles than the fucking LASERBEAM that is the basic assault rifle and Enforcer Machine Gun.
And if CQC ex actually gave you trouble then clearly you were retarded.
Hope you didn't want clans, TSNE that worked, customization options, codec options, text chat or a good economy system that wasn't just ripped from CoD and rewarded skill over time spent.
Enjoy your auto-aim.
>Delayed for half a year
>Released as a 'beta' despite that
>P2P hosting without host migration
>Can't disable your mic
>Have to manually disable each player's mic sound, no general mute button
>No custom music
>Have to grind for even basic colors
>Day1 MB Coin integration, despite the game being released in 'beta' and with half a year of delay between the console version, with no compensation whatsoever for the PC player
>Only 1/3rd of classes and modes focus on stealthy gameplay
>Small maps that heavily encourage and favour CoD-style run-and-gun gameplay instead of a tactical approach
>Buddy system further breaks the already small maps by players teleporting in all over the place, even directly onto objectives
>Invulnerability immediately after spawning means that you're as good as dead when someone teleports in right next to you, which happens all the time
>No text chat integration
>QCQ feels clunky and is incredibly inconsistent concerning the distance it takes to grapple someone
>6 minute timer further encourages just shooting everyone in the face as quickly as possible
>no real bonus for players who completed 100% in GZ/TPP
>no TPP sale on Steam to increase the already small playerbase
>support for this game will likely drop within the next few months
>if you join a game with friends in your party, they may end up in opposing teams or even worse, you will occasionally join games which are then full and your friends can't even connect
This shit has "JUST" written all over it to be honest my dear families
shield and heavy armor too op. single-handedly can take 3 opponents without sweat.
>spawn into match
>me vs 6
>enemy controls all 3 comms, can only spawn at hq
>proceed to get raped for 5 minutes as they all wait at my hq
It's shit compared to MGO1 and 2, PClards are just so excited to actually play something that's been console exclusive for 4 months that they aren't realizing it'll be plagued with hackers
>they instantly hop back onto their feet and grab you
Anyone know if it's possible to make the game pick up the other buttons on my mouse? I just want to rebind my items to it.
>tfw i keep getting killed while pausing to oggle qt operator ass n titties
Feels pretty accurate. I was having fun with it, but I feel like just after a few hours like i've seen it all, and it's kind of boring. Level 19 Enforcer, and i'm just not really diggin' it.
Only enjoyable mode for me as well is Cloak and Dagger. The other two kind of feel like CoD modes rather than what I would expect from Metal Gear.
Where's Team Sneak?
The team death match seems really shit. It's a rush for the walker gear and it's not fun.
C&D has been very enjoyable for me so far because of the stealth aspect. I haven't been able to play the third mode yet.
>stuck using shitty ass player avatar from singleplayer in one of the slots for literally no fucking reason
>only get 3 slots
>can't have female character across the board for each class
>Sneak up on someone perfectly
>Here we go, easy interrogation incoming
>Instead, my character hits him with a thunderous right hook and the guy just shotguns me once he drops to the floor
Why? I held the fucking button.
Seems a bit retarded to not be able to grab on the move. I understand if you're sprinting but it's fucking retarded if you had to sneak all the way up behind someone in third person view and then stand there for a second before doing anything. Also, the regular CQC is absolutely worthless if you don't have a shotgun to finish the job with.
you have to go into custom games to play as Snake or Ocelot so you can't just auto matchmaking into a game with them
as for additional ones I don't know. maybe they'll put more.
Be funny if they had Skullface, but it seems like he would suck eggs compared to the existing ones.
"Oh, he has a fucking lever action carbine, wow.".
Miller might also potentially be a "shit custom character". Like one you had to defend or escort or something, ala VIP in CS or TF2 Classic.
He'd be kind of slow, and have like, a pistol.
The Macht if you're an Infiltrator so you can move faster or if you're using a shield as an Enforcer.
Enforcers get grenade and rocket launchers at higher levels.
And Scout gets the Serval as their last unlock, a sniper rifle that's a 1 hit kill on Infiltrators and 2 hit kill on everyone else, assuming you don't go for headshots.
>the scout's sensor grenades can utterly destroy the opposing team if used efficiently.
I'm glad they patched it. When mgo3 first came out, every class had access to the sensor grenade, at the start of a match you always see a shit load of them flying around
What's with the ugly ass font in the pc release? Everyone's names looks like its in comic sans or some retarded shit. Also this update isnt even the most up to date one so whats even the point of playing on pc right now unless your "le master race XD"
you can 2-3 shot people with the revolver anon.
Oh wait nevermind pc got the previous patch.
Remember, you can do this if you don't want to wait for an eternity
Stop playing shitters in bounty hunter.
Even then Infiltrator is the best class and turning invisible, chocking and cqcing mofos and fultoning is just as viable as enforcers running around with knockout grenades.
I'm not playing bounty hunter. Infiltrator is weak as fuck. It's main draw is something that puts you in the most vulnerable position possible and isn't even guaranteed to work because the game has a habit of swinging right hooks instead of choking.
Some hosts lag like fucking hell which is barely noticeable at first and makes some of the shit people do feel like cheating
I've been killed while killing someone (as in, him, me, 1v1, no outside influences, we both die at the same time from each other) 2-3 times already which is weird
Open Mic for everyone is one of the worst design decisions in the history of mankind
That's my point. It doesn't matter how long you hold it, if you're not at a complete stop and leaving yourself completely vulnerable to anyone around plus the guy you're standing behind because he has third person view and can see you, then you throw a punch and then the guy just shoots you from the ground. Don't pretend you haven't went for a grab, done some CQC instead and been forced to improvise your kill.
I don't play any CoD, I've been playing FPS since Duke 3D, this shit hasn't happened in any game before this in the way it happens in this game
The netcode being shit has been proven with MGS V TPP FOBs already, don't go full retard by pretending the netcode is good.
Stealth camo is pretty powerful. There's a surprising amount of people who don't notice me when they should.
In BH, if I fulton one 6-7 ticket dude I usually jump straight to the top of the leaderboard. It's much harder than just straight up killing, but it's totally possible.
Camo is kind of useless in C&D defending, I'll give you that. I don't know how well it works in Comm because I usually just go loud in that mode anyway.
there u go
Your one argument was "Some people don't see me"? Really? Some people don't see me when I casually jog up on them without stealth, that's not a testament to the Infiltrator, it's a testament to how shit other players are.
Well there's also the cqc perk, but it's not in my loadout so I always forget about it.
And yeah, the camo relies on how shit other players are. As long as people are shit, infiltrator will be viable.
What the hell? they nerfed the bullhorn so hard. God, i miss the weapon variety of MGO2.
I use controller (the 360 one) and it plays perfectly fine.
*unzips katana and teleports behind you, out of your grip*
PSSH, NOTHIN PERSON-EL KIDDO, ITS COCK A DUTY RUN AND GUN. STEALTH A SHIT
*Cuts you in half*
HEH, LOOKS LIKE MORE...CUT CONTENT.
plays well for me, but the always on mic and no text chat is pretty no-go.
While i don't really care about enemies text-chat, not everyone will have a working microphone or even want to use theirs.
How shit is shit? Is this like It's CoD/BF so it's shit or multiplayer found tacked on some already shit game shit?
Is the game enjoyable if you dislike Team Sneak? I really don't find searching for invisible players via a floating gun fun. It just makes me wish people played Spy vs Merc more.
Is Infiltrator the only fun class?
How similar is it to MGO2?
The worst part is, it's fun.
You can see and feel the potential.
And holy shit can we please get some actual customization. Why the FUCK do we have to play base bux for colors? COLORS. Gold and platinum I can understand, but normal colors? Piss off.
Don't bother. By the time you attempt to, they'll have you in the air or slit your throat. Just accept the darkness and cry.
I have to give the people that stun efficiently props: I can't do that shit and fulton. I shoot lethally first and let god sort the ticket count out.
PC gamers will probably attempt to fix it. Worst case scenario: They can't, but they can put private servers up for people to manage/host for their friends and the like a la that Russian F2P Halo game.
If you honestly want to paint yourself gold or platinum, you should.
basically no assets from TPP should be left out really.
Regardless this reminds me a lot of Spess Mahrens multiplayer. Pretty fun, could have lasted longer but ruined by hosting issues and lack of dedicated servers.
my experience so far:
>you have been disconnected from this session
>return to freeplay for some reason (instead of just finding another session or even having an option)
>you have been disconnected from this session
>return to freeplay
>you have been disconnected from this session
All my friends and I made girls to play as and it's great. Free yuri teasing with every match.
>pick one of three classes that you have never experienced before in single player that is locked to your singleplayer avatar.
This is so stupid. Kojima LA dont know that MGS players are weebs and want to design qt players.
You can guess the plot twist from ground zeroes when the camera is in the third bed and kaz says "what about him".
And the fact that the medic and snake are both voiced by Kieffer Sutherland in GZ.
I just choose to ignore PW, GZ and TPP. the series is better that way (Portable Ops is pretty dope though, especially the MGO)
And you can't design a raiden male qt.
Kojima fucked up TPP on purpose so he could stop developing them and leave Konami. A perfect ruse.
>play whatever class I want
>usually whichever one my idiot teamates are refusing to take so we don't have all the same classes
I cannot imagine how much of a boring person you have to be to play this game as an Infiltrator the entire time.
Also your class is shit, cloaking is shit, your speed doesn't matter, enjoy dying in a quarter second.
>This is too fast
As someone who plays FAST shit occasionally, I'm going to have to agree. The ability to dodge constantly, sprint almost constantly, and freedom of movement all make the game too fast and there's zero teamwork. There may have not been a lot of it in MGO2, but the general speed of the game made it more tactical.
Oh that and CQC in 4 was rad as fuck.
>Have a blast last night.
>Come back this morning to find no severs
>automatch to find just 2 people against each other
Diamond Dog fem NPCs in singleplayer have sick ponytails idk why they didnt allow your character to use them in MGO. DD NPCs are just practically presets of your avatar creator.
Fucking this, ponytail hairstyles are already in the game files and you'd figure a multiplayer subsection with customization would have more than the default, it's idiotic I can run around with a fish on my head but not slightly longer more feminine hair or a ponytail
Does the Cheat Engine shit still work like on FOBs?
>singleplayer has crazy gun customization
>multiplayer has basically fucking nothing
>lets me put a big scope on my sniper so I can walk even fucking slower
Also, why are the pistols so fucking awful ? The damage stat says they do as much as an msr4 but it takes 7 rounds from 10 feet away to kill someone, which is the entire magazine, it feels AWFUL. Especially since the first thing someone does when they get hurt is dive 14 times.
I guess I will make another one, I have the slot now. I hope it doesn't happen again, I just want to be infiltrator.
>scrolling between the classes to quickly
I might have done this, not sure. I'll have to be more careful I suppose.
Games fun, but needs more maps, more outfits, and more modes.
>I just want to be infiltrator
I don't really know why.
If you can't sneak around without a cloak you're probably going to use it wrong like everyone else. You have the smallest HP pool out of everyone, getting shot de-cloaks you, and it basically gets the same guns. Also the last patch made taking camo weigh a lot more, so you'll probably have no rifle if you want to go fast.
I at least want to try it, being a regular shooty guy is something offered in every shooter so that's my biggest reason. If I don't like it I'll play something else. I was actually sneaking around as the enforcer because I foolishly thought I was an infiltrator and thought I just hadn't unlocked the stealth camo.
>you're punished for joining games you want to play rather than completely random ones
Well if you're going to get an infiltrator don't play it like you play Enforcer.
Don't sprint everywhere, save your cloak for hiding or while you attack. Wasting it while you run around is pointless and you won't have it ready when you need it. Turning the cloak on also slows you down I think, so even more of a reason to leave it off.
Honestly, I think one of my better Infiltrator loadouts doesn't even have a cloak. I think it's just a naked MSR for shooting if I have to, but speed is key in catching someone of guard.
Also hide in foliage, even without a cloak I can almost guarantee you won't get spotted if you lay completely still. With the cloak, forget about it, that's what it was made for.
You get less points for joining custom games, which is obviously to balance out the fact custom games can go on for 99 minutes and have 99 point score limits.
You should be happy you get anything at all.
>boot up beta
>play a few matches
How the fuck are you people enjoying this, this game is mindblowingly bad.
I'd honestly like it if it wasn't for the incredibly frustrating P2P delay which is experienced like 95% of the time for me.
>shoot guy allotted 9 times with rifle
>wait a second for kill
>throw guy on ground
>oh wait no he threw me
>oh wait no we threw eachother
>oh wait no he's shooting me now
>infiltrator sprinting at me going around mach 1.2
>shoot him 4 times
>from 3 player lengths away his feet slide across the ground while he plays the throw animation
>then dies from me shooting him
Sometimes it's "OK" but generally the above is what I've felt online. I think that's if you're connected with people on your side of the country, who ALSO have good internet, otherwise fucking forget it.
It's so bad that i'm actually at a loss of coherent words. Mainly though,
>dat twitchy ass CoD ADD gameplay
>cqc in general
>those snoozefest gametypes
>everyone's MICS ARE OPEN AUTOMATICALLY so i have to mute everyone at the start of each match or i have to hear someone eating/loud reverb the whole time
>time to find new host, enjoy this load screen, whoops that host left too, enjoy this load screen
Also I'm mad that i have to use kb+m instead of controller for online, especially since kb+m controls are so garbage, but i was expecting that one so it doesn't really count. Also this >>323953945
I'm convinced no one that enjoys this game actually played MGO2.
The FoB invasion system wasnt very good but it felt a lot like MGO2 in ways whenever someone would come to defend/invade and you'd find yourself in a standoff. I assumed MGO3 would be like that but better.