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What does /v/ think of Thief?
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My favorite game of all time. Both of them.
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http://web.archive.org/web/19980526143212/http://www.lglass.com/p_info/dark/index.html
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>>323822014

Thats strange, I dont remember posting in this thread.
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>>323822162
>1.8 Meg: Download = 15 minutes
god damn
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>>323823320
I love old Thief media
>ADVANCED 3D SIMULATION
>A TRUE 6D ENVIRONMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIMzs5O3QWo
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Thief struck me like a well aimed punch to my nuts. All of my friends were freaking out about Half Life while I bought Thief after I had been reading about it from a game magazine. A good friend of mine came over and I let him try it. He went straight on melee with the first two guards and lost. I suggested he would try an another way in and he found the other entrance. Soon after he was seen again and lost the sword fight. "What's the point in this game if you can't fight these enemies?" he asked.

I love the first two. I like the third one. Haven't yet played Thief (2004).

Still listening OST of the first three games every now and then. It's simply brilliant. Strange how it fits the atmosphere so damn well.
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I only played deadly shadows and liked it a lot
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>>323824801
I avoided Thief for a long time because I thought the setting looked like boring generic fantasy shit. Then at some point I listened to the main theme and I think the track from Assassins when they were posted in an OST thread here. I an expectation of what the soundtrack to that kind of setting would be, and it isn't weird electronic droning and hip hop drums. That made me take a closer look at the games, and now they're my favorites.
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Fucking great.
I've been watching this 10-part podcast with the ex-employees from LGS and it's really great.
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>rope and moss arrows will never be real
>you wouldn't have a reason to use them even if they were real
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>>323827441
What kind of pleb needs to taff around with moss arrows?
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>>323827441
>not just quickly tapping W to walk across loud floors
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>>323827553
plebs that like to silently bunnyhop
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>>323827553
>>323827613
>not using tools to their fullest potential
you better not be a save scummer, taffer
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>>323827704
>implying I get caught
taffer please go
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>>323827668
> tfw bunnyhopping directly to the Talisman of Fire instead of sneaking past all the elementals
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>mfw finding out Garrett's VA was also Karrus and the guard Benny
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>>323827382
It's interesting but it's always kind of disappointing how a lot of the people there went on to do nothing very noteworthy.
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>>323828829
He also voiced Xerxes and the Protocol Droids in SS2.

Also an NPC in Skyrim and Fallout 3/4.


AND it's been confirmed he will do some voices for System Shock 3 and the new Underworld game.
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>>323828879
Are you high?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Glass_Studios
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>>323820916
GOD TIER game. Especially the fist. The second was also near perfect.


Please remake this with modern graphics and the exact same levels and missions, I would pay good money for that.
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>All these Thief threads lately

So how bad is Thi4f? I really want to play another Fantasy stealth game, but Dishonored just didn't do anything for me (I tend to go non-lethal, but just found the stealth in the game really unsatisfying and there's no tension, seeing as you can just rampage around with your super powers and arsenal of murderkill tools if you ever get caught).
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>>323829473
it;s pretty bad.
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>>323829385
You remakefags are the worst. Just up the resolution a bit and it looks just fine. Hell install one of those terrible HD texture mods if you really want.
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>>323829473
Thi4f is a mistake, I'm sorry. You can still try, but it's not Thief.
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>>323829345
After they went out of business I mean.

>>323829307
And the fucking goblins in Arx Fatalis which sound completely unlike any of those.

>>323829473
It's bad.
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>>323829613
They started working for big-name titles in all kinds of genres., including Guitar Hero, Fallout 3/4, Dishonored, DX, Oblivion, Bioshock, Half-Life 2, the list goes on. I wouldn't call that "nothing very noteworthy".
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>>323829473
It's decent
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>there will never be stealth games as good as Thief 1 and 2
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One of the best shareware games I ever played, along with Rise of the Triad. Not many great games had shareware demos
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>>323830228
Chaos Theory and the first two Thief games are the greatest stealth vidya of all time.
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>>323830392
Yeah, I forgot about Splinter Cell what with all the mark-and-execute cinematic action focus the last game I played had. Chaos Theory was definitely one of the greats.
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repostan cool shit

>Looking Glass Studios Interview Podcast series
http://gambit.mit.edu/updates/audio/looking_glass_studios_podcast/
>Making of Thief 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTwrEfES5Q4
>Last Day at Looking Glass (video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7tJpuluqQY
>Last Day at Looking Glass (photos)
http://www.digital-eel.com/mc/may252000.htm
>Looking Glass Studios - behind the scenes (partially in German)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaugYown6GA
>Deep Cover (unfinished Cold War stealth game) screenshots
http://95.31.27.16/projects/deep_cover/
>Interview with Josh Randall (Robotkid) about music and sound design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIhMlPbhqk
>Josh Randall soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/robotkid
>Developers play System Shock 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LDiTZ89j-Q
>PC classic commentary: Ultima Underworld with Paul Neurath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sh_DY28wl4
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>>323829473
It's painfully fucking slow.
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>>323827903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRYqhbTBQCs
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Biggest fear in thief?
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>>323832108
my biggest fear is that they'll make another Thief game and it'll somehow be worse than Thi4f.
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>>323829473
It's Swoop: the game, i got the 0 cent edition and still felt ripped off.
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>>323832108
Taffers.
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Join us... join us NOW!
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>>323830228
Someday Deep Cover will be made.
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PLEASE BE WARNED
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>>323829473
They blew it really, really hard. Character is wrong, personality is wrong, atmosphere is wrong, gameplay is wrong, style is wrong... like imagine every single aspect of Deadly Shadows done opposite, and then update the graphics.

Pretty much what happened with Thiaf.
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>>323832108
Craymen. I hate Song of the Caverns.
Also Return to the Cathedral I guess, but I haven't played that one often enough yet to remember a lot of it.
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>>323833094
WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF KARRAS
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It should so fucking simple to make a decent stealth game, so how come every company who tries fuck it up so badly?
I just want more Thief....
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I've always wanted to make a spiritual successor to Thief 1/2, but programming really good stealth AI is kinda difficult and tedious.
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>>323833730
I accepted it will probably never happen and just play fan missions.

>>323833943
I remember one of the devs actually mentioned that almost all of the AI code was re-written overnight close to release, and it transformed the game from being annoying and boring into what it is.
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>>323833943
you could always just make a fan mod
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>>323832108
Spiders. I didn't expect to run into them, or any animals really. Also, some non-guards have really irritating voices.
>He's got a sword!
>There's a guy with a bow!
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Thief II is a god-tier game.
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>>323830838
I'll have to make a note of these, thanks.
Especially interested in the Ultima one.
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>>323833730
They try to make stealth games action hybrids because they think bro dudes won't buy it plain stealth.
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>>323834049
>I remember one of the devs actually mentioned that almost all of the AI code was re-written overnight close to release, and it transformed the game from being annoying and boring into what it is.

I get the impression that's pretty common when it comes to stealth games. I think I recall the Mark of the Ninja developers saying the game was actually completely shit until everything started to come together and gel towards the end.

Mark of the Ninja was really good. Doing a non-lethal run using the outfit that took your sword away in exchange for extra tools was a blast.
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>you have to steal the Widow Moira's inheritance if you're playing on Expert
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>>323834554
>Is that a thief I see before me?
>GUARDS
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>>323822014
>>323822252
All me
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>>323829473
Fucking awful. Even people who haven't touched Thief before calls it weak as shit.
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>>323820916
<message stolen>
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>>323838860
Great stuff.
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>>323820916
I have simple job plan for this evening. Break into /v/, start another Thief thread and leave quietly. Lord Summer is out of town and the rumour has it that the mods went with him, as a bodyguard. So the time is ripe for a decent thread. The front page is always full with non vydia threads, and /vg/ is far to exposed.
But Cutty tells me there's a better way in,around to the side, more out of the
way. Only regular Taffers, and likely no shitposters to...complicate matters. The piece Cutty wants is a decent thread,good arguments, the usual adornments. It
should provide a good discussion. Lord Summer, like most of his kind, probably keeps his
best threads on the top floor of the catalog. Close to his heart, and far from his
his console peasant servants. No point in waiting... I have Cutty's old sketches of the place, and every underage
who's going to be asleep inside already is. It's time to begin.
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>>323841302
8/10
Pretty good.
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JOIN US
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>>323840462
Those fuckers almost made me have a heart attack. They don't make a sound until you run into them.
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Anyone have a link to the developer playthrough they did recently? Cant seem to find it.
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Who /trailofblood/ here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr7sW6vbfM4
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>>323827613
>Not binding ctrl to creep
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>>323844417
I didn't actually care for the level but the music is the best in Thief 2. Reminds me of Boards of Canada.
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>>323820916
>bro downloads THE4F for free on xbl
>mfw that everything
christ almighty. Le cocky female siekick, 3 second long animations for fucking EVERYTHING, emo garret and that voice.
how did the same studio that made a pretty fatihful deus ex prequel create this unholy abomination?
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>>323833094

I HAVE HEARD, BUT I DO NOT KNOW
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>>323841302
Rad. I like it.
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If you guys like the atmosphere of Thief then you should check out Spider http://www.shroudedmoon.com/

Made by a bunch of ex-LGS devs and nails that Victorian-gothic vibe.
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>>323844785
I heard about this but never looked into it because lolmobile but that actually seems interesting. Any idea it it's better on phones or PC?
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>>323836268
I thought so too, loved the CQC robe

the one that terrified guards more easily was really fun for a sneaky horror movie villain playthrough
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>>323830228
>>323830601
>leaving out based hitman
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>>323845351

Tried it on both, the swiping to jump feels natural on a touchscreen but you can see your jump arc with a KB+M. I'd recommend using a controller if you have it. It's surprisingly good for a more casual game.
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>>323841259
I hate that level on expert. all the loot is fucking hard to find.
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>>323844785
>>323846694
Is it supposed to be Deus Ex with spiders?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO8fFhEqNTU
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>>323847730

Never thought of the Deus Ex connection but yeah.
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>>323847247

>going for 100% loot run
>get to the end of the level
>missing some
>look all around
>finally give up and consult a loot map

It's always the fucking lucky coins and rings, or alternatively, it was something stupid like a purse or some other thing that was underwater in some spot that wasn't significant at all.
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>>323848027

Well Thief is considered one of the most well designed games ever, of the golden age along with SS and DX.
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>>323848497
If that trinity is supposed to be for best game design why is SS2 there instead of SS1?
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Thief > STALKER > System Shock > Deus Ex > Metroid Prime > Underworld
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>>323848609
he was probably too pleb to handle ss1's "flight sim" controls
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>>323848632
Thief trilogy > UW1 > MP > DE > SS1 > SS2 > STALKER > UW2 > Thi4f
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>>323848931
>implying Thi4f even belongs on that list
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I hope you taffers found the secret Bankmap in the files of thief 2
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best level right here
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>>323849034

What was this going to be? A fake tip or just something fun?
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>>323829307
>AND it's been confirmed he will do some voices for System Shock 3 and the new Underworld game.
I want so much for those games to be good but I can't trust that they will be. If nothing else maybe Russell's lines can be chopped up for use in FMs.
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never played any thief games b4

tips?
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>>323849205
play thief games but not 4
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>>323849167
The Placeholder for the "First City Bank of Trust"-Map
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>>323849205
To play Thief on modern computers
use TFix for Thief The Dark Project/Thief Gold: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134733
use tafferpatcher for Thief 2: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131106
Graphical mods not recommended.
Be ready for zombies in Thief 1.
You can probably ignore the rest of this for now but keep it in mind:

Fan Mission forums:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=100
http://forums.thedarkmod.com/

Fan Mission listing by type:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144797

A few worthwhile Fan Missions for Thief Gold or Thief 2:
(Do your research, some of these are parts of series that should be played in order)
T2X: Shadows of the Metal Age (it's an entire game)
The Inverted Manse
Disorientation
Rocksbourg series
Conspiracies in the Dark
Trail of Blood 2
The 7 Shades of Mercury
Calendra's Cistern (consider the recent updated version)
Calendra's Legacy
Between These Dark Walls
Shadow Politics
Endless Rain
The Ashen Age
Rose Cottage
The Unseen
Bad Debts
The Hand of Glory
Mystic Gems: Heart of Bohn
The Power of Suggestion
The Order of the Vine
A Better Tomorrow
Unbidden Guest
The 7th Crystal
Augustine's Revenge
Heist Society
The Seven Sisters
Broken Triad
Bones Ep1: The Old Quarter
Returning a Favor
The Black Frog
Sepulcher of Sinistral
COSAS: Mission X
Greyfeather Gems (Part 1: The Shipment, and Part 2: Rodamill)
Shadow of Doubt
Third Time's the Charm
Relic - Left for Dead
Saints and Thieves
Stone and Glass House
The Tower
The Saint of Redmound
Hidden Agenda
L'Arsene series
Amoral Dilemma
Ominous Bequest Gold
Death's Turbid Veil
Breaking the Stone
Exile
Kingsbridge
Gems of Provenance
Lorgan's Web
Lady Whitman's Disease
Chalice of Souls
Of Thieves and Rubies
Whispers in the Desert
From Beneath the Sands
Pirates Ahoy!
Sturmdrang Peak
Rowena's Curse
Evil Thievery
The Widow's Ire
Into the Maelstrom
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>>323849205
don't bother buying, pirate the GOG version and play on expert. Eidos can eat a dick.
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>>323848735
I don't get the complaints for the SS1 controls. Sure they're a bit dated and clunky, but give it like 30 minutes and it's just fine.
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>>323849113
I like the ambiant music in the caverns
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>he didn't find the secret level
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B U M B L E S O N S
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crw7LEnweaM
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>>323850853
>faggot wasn't invited

lmao
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>>323832108
the asthmatic wheezing of zombies

especially when I don't exactly know where they are

their low poly models make them just even more terrifying
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How do I play Thief Gold on steam ?

I have multiple keyboard issues (keys not working, menus fucking up)

Is there a patch ? I haven't found anything and stopped playing
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>>323852127
see >>323849318
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Nevermind >>323852127, I've read the thread now


>>323849318
Capped, you better be right
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>>323850550
Course I did, what do you take me for a casual?
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>>323852349
implying casuals would play this "ugly ass boring game"

sad face
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>>323830228
Chaos Theory is marred by forced combat sections. Thief II is not only the single best stealth game, it's probably as close as we'll get to a perfect game.
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>>323829473
It's legit terrible. Like a fake chinese DVD ripoff version of a Thief game.
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>>323851185
>Later you find out he was actually invited but the mail was misplaced
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>>323849171
The new Underworld looks really, but I think SS3 will at the very least will be okay.
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