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>that difficulty spike at Sheer Mountain Range and Gentle Slope Cave
What the hell were they thinking?
Also PSMD thread
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>run out of apples on F13 of Sheer Mountain Range
>partner uses up all tiny reviver seeds on the Mienshaos
>run out of elixirs and oran berries
>resort to eating status berries to clutch hunger
>die in the room with the stairs because of safeguarding pecking swablus working together

J U S T
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So is it good
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>>323703434
>you can't recruit members by defeating them
Dropped the game so hard.
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>>323703434

git gud.
Which starters did you pick?
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whats the best mystery dungeon game
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>>323703880
Is it really that big of a deal? You can still recruit everyone. I'd much rather be able to do a mission and 100% get that pokemon than have to beat a ton of them to get the chance.
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>>323703880

How do you recruit pokemon?
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>>323703880
So how do I get machamp.
Also is there a gummie system like in sky.(can max any pokemon stats with 1000 gummies)
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>>323704176
>>323703880
It's not that big of a deal, but it's kind of boring. There was something cool about recruiting foes from defeating them. Made it a lot more neat. Now if you do 1 or 2 missions, you get a lvl 50 Salamance that you're a casual if you use.

I just passed OP and I have several Pokemon that out-level me I can use but don't.
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>>323704336
You realize if you do use him, he fucks off on vacation for a long while, right?
He's literally just there to help you on harder missions, you can't use him for story stuff.
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>>323704336
Can I get a level 1 machop or machamp I like grinding them up to max in mystery dungeon or do I only get level 50 ones
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>>323704270
You have to do a specific mission that'll recruit Machamp for you or possibly talk to one in town. The mission for recruiting it might involve fighting a boss version of it that's much stronger than normal mons.
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>>323704665
Nothing comes at level 1, but lots start at lower levels like 20 or so.
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>>323704336
It's neat when you're just doing stuff and it happens when you're not expecting it, but no way in hell would grinding all 779 recruits like that be any fun once you're actually aiming to do it, especially with the fact that your attacks are much more important and your Belly decays faster, so PP and hunger are much bigger issues.
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>>323704207
Do their missions, meet random wandering pokemon, or see if they have the (!) in town.
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>>323704270
Get to Bronze Rank by doing a bunch of other missions. You get him and some others as a reward.
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>>323704752
Eggs in the game full random or can I make a wonder mail for them.
Its a bit technical I know but I have done a level 100 machamp every mystery dungeon game.
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MC Squirtle and Female Chickorita partner is GOAT. Lima carried my ass through the most bullshit that game can through.
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>I'm Mew!
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>>323704270
There's no gummis, just regular stat increasers (protein, iron, etc.) and you can max out any pokemon to all 255 stats.
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>>323703434
>What the hell they were thinking?
Use items. Be aggressive with their use. This game is trying to break you into the habit that items are meant to be used, not hoarded as last resort/wait until the end of the game kind of deal.
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>>323704564
Not the Victini that can be found in the Connection Cafe almost immediately.
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>>323704995
There are no Eggs in this game.
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>>323704995
No wonder mail or eggs. The only way to get new recruits is by connection orb and you only get one of each.
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Come check out my secret hideout!
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so im in the postgame after talking to xatu, should i grind levels or just get a shit ton of revivers seeds and rush the solo dungeon. Also are there going to be more solo dungeons i have to do in order to get mewback?
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You're exploring Mystery Dungeons when this walk walks up and Unburdens your partner's ass.
What do?
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>>323705049
There was no exclamation point. Don't change the tone of her words.
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>Chlorophyll
>When the weather is sunny, attack twice in one turn

>Solar Beam
>Charges, and then fires on the next turn. Fires instantly if it's sunny.

>Growth
>raises att and sp. att. Rasies them sharply if it's sunny.


>Lilligant
>Ability: Chlorophyll
>Giga Drain
>Solar Beam
>Growth
>Sunny Day

>tfw my starter is Water type and my partner is Fire
Literally perfect.
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>>323705332
Can't do anything.

She's his now.
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>>323705261
Pure seed and rollcall orb. GG.
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>>323703991
Sorry I'm so late, but I'm Fennekin and my partner is Squirtle.
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>Everyone makes a big deal out of Yveltal
>All I do is walk up to his Oblivion Wing spam and Rage his ass
>Only had to use 1 seed to make it to him
What was the big deal again? Is there a post-game version that just wrecks your shit royally?
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>>323705701
Or anything with a move that hits the whole room like Heat Wave or Discharge.
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>>323705512
>There are people who consider Mew, Celebi and Jirachi male
>These people also draw the r34
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>>323705535
Forgot to mention

With chlorophyll, growth is used TWICE when it's sunny. ATT and SP. ATT are raised 4 fucking tiers.
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>>323705535
>>323705782
>Breaking the game

If at any point you were able to defeat an enemy without using at least one item, you ruined the game for yourself.
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>yfw the story dungeons where you have more than 4 members with you
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>>323703876
Yeah, definitely worth playing. Better than Gates but not better than R/B or T/D/S imo.
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>>323705703

>Fire/Water
You did good, anon. After Gentle Slope, you should have no trouble with the rest of the game.
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Has there literally ever been another game where your partner walks beside you instead of behind you?
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>>323705898
I was hyped for the Legendary Beasts until Entei kept wandering on his own and getting killed on every fucking floor. I guess it suits him since even during the "scripted loss" he couldn't hit me and the game had to cut it on turn 2 because Rollout nearly took all his HP
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>>323705950
I'd agree that Sky had an overall stronger package, but SPMD rips the head off R/B and shits down its neck.

How long has it been since you played it? Fucking thing barely holds up against Gates.
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>>323705898
THOSE WERE THE BEST.

My favorite parts of the game.
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>>323705898
I actually don't like those. It's cool to have so many members, but it's so much of a clusterfuck. They just wander away and get themselves killed so often.
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>Grudge
>Spite
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>The only time the totodile motion shows any emotion is heart wrenching sadness

Fuck me that ending was rough
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>>323705708
It really depends on your team set up and what items you were able to scrounge together, since Oblivion Wing hits 30 total tiles and you're up against four other Pokemon as well. Even your additional teammates get fucked over easily, especially Celebi. No shit you'd be able to shit on him with Rage with all the damage he does.
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>>323706193
Run a tighter ship, you nitwit. Don't let nobody break off.
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>>323706140
I haven't played R/B for a while, but I've played through it so many times and I just have so many fond memories. Maybe it's just nostalgia goggles. I also haven't finished Super yet so I can't really judge it yet.
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B-but the game isn't out yet here...
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>>323706428
LEAVE THE THREAD BEFORE YOU GET SPOILED.
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Literally the perfect partner.
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>>323706428
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>>323706302
even then, I'm surprised nobody just uses a pounce or summon staff. It was a pretty underwhelming fight
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>>323706502
Please have a seat
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Espurr>Goomy>Pancham>Shelmet>>>>>>alwaysdead on floor 1, Deerling

also, Archen is the best society member despite Mawile being the best to adventure with.
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Post your favorite tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjXtQ0XwlI
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>>323707367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuKnzJLoHU
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>>323707475
Mah nigga
Easily the best track in the game
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I wish Mega Fug had a bigger role in the game besides the final dungeon
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>>323707367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6jGydOWWpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoQNUP9cblc
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So did anyone else actually prefer that you recruited Pokemon via missions as opposed to it being random or am I the only one?
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I feel like the ending to super was a little weak compared to all the other ones
I mean, didn't you have a life as a human? are you just stuck forever as a pokemon?
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Similar to how Gates encourages using Orbs in bossfights which are almost all similar to the guild fight in Explorers, they teach you to actually use your fucking items like you're supposed to.
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Which Pokemon fits the partner personality the best canonically and why is it Chespin?
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>Played the tutorial
>No motivation to play anymore

I loved the original too.
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>>323708071
I like it but I don't like the wandering pokemon you encounter in dungeons
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>>323708308
Nah, Tepig fits the ADHD personality better.
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wrong sub op
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>>323708071
No, you're not the only one. I also like missions, but don't let the spergs here know.
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>>323708308
I like Chespin the best but canon is Riolu iirc
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>>323705703

I'm a Squirtle and my partner is a Fennekin
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>>323708071
I'd love it if there were also randomized missions too. I don't like that you can just run out of things to do (after many, many hours, but still).
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>>323708425
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>>323708308
Tepig
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Did anyone else get a really comfy vibe from the first half of the plot?
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>>323708308
Female Snivy
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>>323708116
What do you mean by that?
All of the main characters in the games chose to stay in the pokemon world, it's not unique.
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>Submerged cave
>Die on F7
>doing the rescue mission
>Seadra used hydro pump!
>Bisharp has fainted!
>Alakazam has fainted!
>Seadra evolved into Kingrda!
>Kingdra used hydro pump!
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>>323708875
>Mega-Evolved Salamence
>Goes berserk and kills my whole team.
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>>323708116
The worst part about it is Gates of all games actually handles the whole dilemma surrounding that very well, and I was hoping Super would manage to as well except maybe in a different way. Super just makes the same mistake Rescue Team did and puts words in your character's mouth about wanting to stay instead. And at least Explorers made it seem like you were always a part of the future world and with it "gone" you had nowhere left to be anyways but with your partner.
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>>323708875
Fuck Hydro Pump.

I'm a huge fan of enemy evolution, though.
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>>323708875
>hit by a room AOE just by stepping into it
>half of party wiped
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>>323708959
I was fine with it because I would have said everything my character said if I were in his position. "You're the reason I want to stay." hit me especially hard.
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>>323708875
Submerged Cave was the only other place besides Sheer Mountain Range and Revelation Mountain that gave me trouble
Fuck Seedras, it's fucking impossible to Recover if they snipe someone with Hydro Pump and evolve into Kingdras. More obnoxious than fucking Uproar Noctowls
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>>323708959
The only thing gates did right was the story
your partner being mew is a little weird, like I should have expected it, but it took me by suprise
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>>323708875
>>323709029
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>go to that fire mountain of whatever the fuck entei lives on
>1st and 2nd floor go pretty good, no issues with my team
>suddenly a goddamn fire monkey thing comes up and spams incinerate at me destroying all my Apples as my attacks repeatedly miss
>had to make a mad dash through the entire dungeon with no food
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>Those credits
>yfw you realized the scene wasn't going to change

I DON'T FEEL LIKE A WINNER ANYMORE
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>>323709525
You know if you change the leader, your hunger doesn't go down except on the leader, right?
If you wait until literally 1 hunger, then switch you can last a good while.
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>>323708071
Fuck no. It works better for legendaries(screw going through a 20+ floor dungeon for a sub 5% chance to recruit them) but the old mission/recruitment thing was better for everything else. It just felt more personal having certain pokemon that you can name and have multiple of and they join out of respect/admiration of the exploration/rescue group. Now it's you go in a dungeon, hand the fucker an apple that's next to him and then you're suddenly BFF's with like 5 pokemon. Worse yet is even the low level first form pokemon randomly disappear meaning you can't even have a complete team that you like. I just want a team composed entirely of whoopers.
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>>323709737
It's a story quest so you can't change leaders.
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>>323709525
>can't switch leader during story missons
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>>323708592
The first half was the only part I seriously enjoyed the story in. The second half's pacing was kind of a mess and I was really miffed that almost none of the characters I was already attached to were relevant at all for the rest of the game.

Of the Society I only really ended up liking Ampharos and Jirachi, and kinda Swirlix but I have a weird sort of I don't even know for their sort of character at times.
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>>323703434

Let's talk about the difficulty spike after the ending instead bro
It's a fucking effective motivator. Nothing so wrong has ever been in a video game
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>>323709853
Not being able to name them is kinda shitty and the closed systems is just bullshit (it'd be alright if it went away entirely once you outlevel that pokemon).
Maybe have a hybrid system?
Once you complete the connection orb mission, you automatically recruit one of that pokemon and you can recruit extras of that species in the dungeons from then on.
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>>323710104
Oh, I thought he meant the post-game dungeon where you get Entei. Oops.
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When can I recruit a Sableye
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>>323708308
see >>323706484
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>>323709853
>low level first form pokemon randomly disappear

What?
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>>323708308
Fennekin.

>>323711005
Occasionally, Pokemon you recruit will not be available to join you on adventures because they're busy with personal things. While this is more common with Pokemon leveled higher than your MC, it's completely random and can happen with any Pokemon.
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>>323710982
That's not Snivy
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>>323711272
Ok, that's kinda stupid, I still like this system more overall though.
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>>323708308
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>>323711389
>>323710982
>>323706484

wrong
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>>323711389
You're right.
It's not Snivy.
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>>323711389
This anon gets it
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>>323703991
Friggin Chimchar and Snivy. Shit sucked.
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>>323708308
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>>323708308
>>323711272
>>323713504

this desu senpai.
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>>323703991
Did the personality test and stuck with the results
Turtwig and Totodile
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>>323706408
Super definitely gets off to a slow start, but it's much better than R/B. I just replayed Red a year ago and while it was and still is a good game, it aged like shit.
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>>323714684
Fuck this game's personality test, it's my least favorite.

Exhibit A. How many people got this answer combination?
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>>323715004
Some years ago Nintendo stopped translating "anime" as "cartoons" which is the context used in the Japanese versions, yet they still translate "manga" as "comics".

But honestly the personality test this time was probably only put in because people bitched Gates didn't have it.
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>>323703991
Squirtle and Pikachu
(Squirtle kind of sucks. He doesn't learn any good moves for a long time)
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>>323703991
Best pair along with Shinx and Skitty in Sky.
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Does answering cool or cute make a difference at all for your partner?
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>>323716676
I picked Fennekin as a partner as well but I went with Pipulup as my starter instead because Empoleon is a cooler evolution.
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>>323716918
Cool makes them a boy, cute a girl.
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>>323705781
I'll give you Mew and Celebi, but I consider Jirachi male.

Nothing wrong with cute males though.
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>>323716254
No seriously.
Once you get Pancham and Espurr they far outclass him since their moves do 40+ damage. (Whereas I'm only doing 30 at most)
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>>323705781
To be fair, Jirachi IS male in this game.
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The balance is a fucking clusterfuck so far. You get Level 50 Pokemon joining you early on and as soon as all the continents open up you can go to really hard dungeons using them. I did a trip through one high-difficulty cave on the Mist Continent where I did six requests using Salamence and my two Level ~18 guys, it was hard as hell but doable.
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>>323705882
just do sacred ruins dungeon
if it's not gamebreaking you cant even reach half of it
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>>323716987
But they go so perfectly together. Both use tools, one is a close-up swordsman while one is far-off magician, Oshawott starts on two legs and ends on four, while Fennekin is the other way around. I think their middle stages looks great together, too.

Though while I like Oshawott's evolutions I understand why people may not.
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>>323706037
i've been to kitsune village
what a glorious place
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>>323718056
Wouldn't mind it if you could immediately switch to their second evolutions.
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>>323708308
I picked Treecko. It really worked for that "slightly older neighbor girl who drags you on adventures but is secretly sad and lonely" vibe.
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>>323705781
>Jirachi
>not a cute boy
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>>323703991
Froakie and Tepig
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>>323718269
A female Pikachu is perfect partner material.
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If I evolve a pokemon I met through the connection orb I can never get that pokemon again right?

I really want Gliscor but I haven't had a mission for him yet, I have a Gligar however which I could evolve if I wanted to.

So if I were to evolve Gligar into Gliscor I would potentially have 2 Gliscors later but never have a Gligar again? I sort of wanted to have one of each pokemon and evolve nobody except me and my partner.
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>>323719094
>So if I were to evolve Gligar into Gliscor I would potentially have 2 Gliscors later but never have a Gligar again?

Exactly. Evolve no one but you and your partner.
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>>323717068
I don't recall anyone referring to my partner as either gender in my playthrough
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>>323719486
They don't in the script. But so say the game files.
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>>323719486
With some Pokémon its obvious.
Pikachu for instance has a heart shaped tail when it's female.
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Am I just having nostalgia or does anyone else think Sky is the better game?

I love SMD, but I miss a lot of the things from Sky like enemy recruitment, gummies and held items.

Looplets and other features were great additions, and alliance moves pretty much replaced linked moves. One problem I have with looplets is that they should have been a different held item slot so you could always have one as they are essential, but also letting you give geopebbles, berries or sticks to your party for them to use when they can.
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>>323716254
>(Squirtle kind of sucks. He doesn't learn any good moves for a long time)

Same for Froakie. I was stuck with Water Pulse for nearly the entire game.

Water Shuriken is godlike though.
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>>323705703
>>323708504

You anons have good taste.
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>>323710173
This, I preferred the first half much more to the second half. It would have been cool to if they just stuck with school kids and had them work together to save the world instead of the whole expedition society thing.
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>>323720105

Sky is better, no doubt in my mind.
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>>323720360
My current moveset for squirtle (just before leaving village):
Power up punch
Water Gun
Bite
Tackle
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>>323720105
You're not the only one, anon. I'm still working my way through the postgame, but I think Sky is far better in terms of overall design and fun than SMD. Still, at least it's better than Gates.
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>>323720535
Should've just brought the kids into the Junior Society thing and stuck with that, helping out Pokemon in that rural area the Society clearly doesn't get out to much, with the Junior Society getting mixed up with the proper one later when the plot started to get real.
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>>323703434
>Sheer Mountain Range
Call me when you reach the Tree of life and then tell me about hard.
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>>323720105
I don't know, I think I like this game more than Sky. I'm replaying Sky so I can be sure, though
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>>323721183

Tree of Life is extremely easy, mainly because it's so short.
Try even one of the postgame dungeons and you'll be btfo
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>>323720105
Sky is better in most departments, I think.

Super's got the better core gameplay but there's lots of poor design decisions otherwise and the plot's kind of weak.
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>>323720739

That's actually pretty good. IIRC, I had bubble, quick attack, aerial ace and growl.
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>>323721682
>mfw all the maingame dungeons were like ten floors long tops
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So I beat the game but I still don't have access to the Serene's Village folks you connect with after the "Giratina" dungeon. Do you have to beat the epilogue as well? Shelmet was my favorite third man back in Serene's, and I'm sure he's still second to only Rotom.
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>>323722030
Wasn't Sheer Mountain Range 23F?
I can't remember, it's been a bit of time since I beat the main story
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>>323722029
Yeah. I guess its useable, but most of those moves are what he started with.
Plus he has 30 odd in every stat and average health (54) so he doesn't excel in anything.
You look at Pancham at the same level and see he has that, superior attack and health, AND arm thrust.
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>>323722885
Nope. 13f.
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