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Double Fine is wanking that they reached their goal on twitch right now.

Psychonauts 2 is gonna be vaporware right?
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>>323702691
It has a high chance of becoming vaporware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFX0f_YUn1I
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>>323702691
exactly 0% chance
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Psychonauts 1/2
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>>323704294
The claims made in that video got destroyed during that AMA yesterday. That video is tinfoil hat tier stuff.
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>>323702691
Nah. They'll produce something, eventually. But they're absolutely going to milk it for every last desperation dollar they can.

>I know you help us raise 10 million for this one guies, but if we can get it to 12 million it'll be so much better! So much!

No matter how much gets raised, it'll still end up being 500k worth of game, tops, and it'll still be coming out at least twelve months behind schedule.
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>>323704527
post proofs, I'm legitimately interested.
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>>323704527
>Tim lied on Reddit.

You don't say.
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>>323704527

>believing 'GIMMIE DEM PROGRAMZ' Schafer

Dont be so gullible my little redditor
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>>323704527
But he didn't make any claims, just pointed out the shady shit in the fine print, what exactly was destroyed?
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Does Psychonauts emulate well?
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>Hear this thing got announced
>Go play the first game that had been sitting on my steam library for years
>It's pretty fun and a nice concept but nothing really revolutionary
What's the hype about?
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But will it become vaporwave?
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>>323704746
>believes Gamergate shill on Youtube
>calls other people gullible

No thanks. I think I'll side with the adult who has actually made good games and has delivered on the previous two Kickstarters rather than the meme parroting children. Spacebase was a failure, but that was an Early Access game hardly anyone gave a shit about and which Tim had limited involvement in, so it doesn't reflect on how Psychonauts 2 will turn out.
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>>323704937
there is a PC version
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>>323705076
Tim please go
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All games they made since going to crowd sourcing were terrible/abandoned , the only one that was average and finished was that Throne one, and schooner wasn't even involved with it.
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>>323704937
there is a pc version with controller support
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>>323705076

>constantly called out for being shit at money management
>people refuse to invest in his projects
>Open secret that he is again Fucking abysmal with money

More than that video senpai. People have being saying this shit for years its just that nobody believed them before Broken age and Spacebase
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>>323705076
>calling people shill
>As opposed to people that are actually selling games to you
Even the Original Psychonauts was forgettable. Why are you even thinking that this'll be good?
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>>323704928
Because the "shady shit" he pointed out isn't shady at all. It's standard investment fine print and boilerplate found in many different business documents. He's just counting on the fact that most gamergoobers and /v/tards are underage and/or have little knowledge of the business world, and won't know shit from shinola.
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>>323704614
>500k worth of game

wow you sound good at budgets
what's a 500k worth game usually look like? just for comparisons' sake (remember to cite actual budgets)
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>>323705002

can someone explain to me what the fuck is vaporwave? i know it's a music genre and that everyone always post the same fucking dumb album with the pink background and the greek statue for some reason

is it like a /mu/ meme or something?
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>>323705076
How does it not reflect on him when he runs the company?
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>>323702691
It's probably going to come out half finished late 2021, with the second half (being worse in every way) coming out a year later after getting a few more million bucks.
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>>323704937
There's a PC port anon.
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>>323705415
Because he is a shill
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>>323705386
It's like the musical version of some random snowboard clips DVD that gets bundled with your Compaq Windows 95 computer because it has a DVD-ROM drive.
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Thanks for supporting Psychonauts 2 part 1. Check out fig next year for the kickstarter for part 2.
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>>323705361
Broken Age is a good example.
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>>323705386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BSJAAo1uNY

I dunno it's catchy though
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>>323705361
Broken Age.
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>>323705341
get better taste.

>>323705415
the game was on Early Access and abandoned because there wasn't enough user interest to keep it financially sustainable. all those features that idiots claimed were "promised" were never ALWAYS explicitly described as tentative, not promised, so it's hard to claim that they broke their promises when they were warned in advance that those features might never appear in the final game. the problem again is that many gamers are morons who don't fucking read or understand the English language.

P2 is not an Early Access game and won't rely on a constant stream of revenue to keep development going, plus it's a much more important title to the company and Tim in particular.
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>>323705798
>>323705907
What about $500k games that actually cost 500k?
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>>323705798
>>323705907
Sorry! Broken Age cost about 3 million dollars to make. Better luck next time!
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>>323705798
>broken age
>500k
Come on, they made Barkley shut up and jam for 0k and it has as much programming as that game.
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>>323702691
Nothing good has come out of kickstarter.
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>>323705981
>>323705997
Fuck off, Tim. A team of 3 people could make that game for 10K.
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>>323706079
Shovel Knight.
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>>323706095
Over how much time though? If you artists and programmers to work for you, they generally want to be paid.
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>>323706095
Correction: a team of 3 starving homeless people could make something a bit like that game for 10k

you seriously need to try again
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>>323706127
Only one good thing has come from kickstarter.
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>>323706304
What am i looking at here?
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The fact that no publisher will touch him with a 100ft pole is all you need to be skeptical.
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>>323706287
Not ''something like'' it. They could make the same exact thing or do even better if even one of those people can draw well.
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>>323706451
shovel knights lead developer
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>>323706597
true, but why do they need 10k? Surely they could make Broken Age for free! Why do people need to be paid? Greedy fucks amirite!
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>>323706765
Nice shitpost, retard.
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>>323706765
Dude, come on.

Posturing aside, Broken Age is a mess from a budgetary standpoint. It gets put to shame graphically by a game with a THIRD of the budget (Dragon's Crown), tons of money is wasted on hiring celebrity VAs like Elijah Wood when it's totally unwarranted and does not improve the game in any meaningful way, and, perhaps most importantly, it's a fucking point and click so it's not like you have dev time/money going into shit like game balance or a variety of playable classes.
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>>323706597
so why don't they? if it's so easy, the market should be overflowing with dozens of adventure games that have lots of art, animation, full voice acting and all of them practically free thanks to how cheap they were to make!

or you're a kid without disposable income and a craving for edge

it could be either situation, really
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>>323705924
Is a Doublefine employee actually in this thread or is this just a standard shill, because trying to defend the disaster that was DS9 is hilarious. I would love it if no one ponied up any more cash for Tim and see if they can make the game for ~3.3 mil. I'd love it if people would actually hold the child accountable and not bail him out when things go wrong.
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>>323704928
This was literally the most upboated question on the AmA.
I distinctly remember the "We can just pocket the money and leave" and "We can spend this money on anything that isn't psychonauts" was confirmed bullshit.
Conversation went way deeper in the AmA, can't remember what else was said, but there's no way Tim/Fig big wigs would spill those beans on reddit if they thought they could get away with it.
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>>323707114
Tim is a fucking moron. He goes on about how making games is expensive, then he hires several celebrities to voice act. That alone is half the budget of the game.
It's so retarded. Just look at Psychonauts. They hired actual voice actors. They hired cheap Cartoon Network people who are the best at their job.
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>>323707114
>Dragon's Crown
Just looked that up. Dunno if I would call that better looking in any way besides taste in art style. The art style of broken age was one of my favourite things about it.

>tons of money is wasted on hiring celebrity VAs like Elijah Wood
I don't know why people presume this. People seems to come up with their own theories of why Broken Age cost what it did, and then believe them as fact. All the VA was done for extremely reduced fee's. Elijah Wood was a huge adventure game fan and wanted to be part of the project. Same with other celebrity VA's.
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>>323707520
So the guy there is Blatantly lying.

Ok.
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>>323707420
Adventure games don't sell and talented artists aren't going to make fucking adventure ''games''. They make games like STALKER with a smaller budget than Broken Age.
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>>323704527
I laughed when people started claiming that Schafer was deleting his comments before it was announced that he couldn't even do that.
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>>323707718
>That alone is half the budget of the game.
[Citation needed]
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>>323707770
>The art style of broken age was one of my favourite things about it.
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>>323707934
Fuck off, retard.
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>>323707770
So... They just took the money and ran because Broken Age looks like dogshit.

>>323707718
Many voice actors actually have variable rates.

John Saint John can just ask for $50 for a few lines, and that guy is a very big profiled voice actor.

Elijah Wood too, is actually a very fucking humble actor.
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>>323707868
Or games like Mount and Blade.

Fuck I bet Shafer WISHED he made Mount and Blade or STAKLKER right now.
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>>323707770
VAs have become a scapegoat for retards to blame the inflation of vidya budgets anon.
Doesn't mean Tim isn't shit with his money though, he should have kept BA small but went full ego and fucked up the budget hard. Hard to forgive that kind of fucking stupidity.
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>>323706079
I funded the Rain of the Ghosts audiobook and got exactly what I wanted in a timely fashion.
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>>323707936
yes? That's not a screenshot from the game.

>>323707976
Love you sweetheart : 3
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>Potential of playable Lili
My hype is real.
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>>323707826
>So the guy is giving irrefutable evidence in the class action lawsuit that can be mounted against him if he tries that shit
At least hate him for something that makes sense like his shitty budgeting skills.
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>>323708143
>he should have kept BA small
opinions.

I'm personally glad he tried to make something ambitious. I agree they fucked up the budget, but I'm glad he tried to make something risky and ambitious rather than something safe.
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>>323708246
So.... is the entire game made up of still images that take a week at the most?

Because not gonna line anon, as a concept artist, I hope that's the concept art.
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>>323708391
>Literally not reading the fucking shit at all.

Tim and Doublefine are not responsable and if you agree to the terms, you agree to the fucking terms.

You can't sue them because

A) it won't be them handling the money

B) It's all set up as a legal trap.
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>>323708408
>So.... is the entire game made up of still images that take a week at the most?
No anon. Maybe you should research the game just a little bit before discussing it.
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The only thing that prevents this from being as big of a mess as Broken Age is the fact that it isn't overbudget.
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>>323702691
unless they can get an actual accountant or jew to actually handle the budget it will be vaporware

mr. shitface couldn't handle a budget to save his life, which is why he's doing kickstarters every other year instead of you know, being a self sufficient company like most AA studios
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>>323708567
Well anon, let me explain my process further.

Is that the background image used for a scene in the game?

Or is that concept art? Is that finalised art at all?
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You know how relatively slow the campaign went in that it didn't reach goal within the first week, or even half a month and even then it's just a relative few people donating tons of money?

I think Double Fine is really going to have to sit down and make sure they make a good game because they're staring to run out of chances to appeal to people's nostalgia and they're really gaining a questionable reputation.
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>>323708751
this >>323707936 is either concept art, or a test environment made during development to test how the art style would would in the game engine they were making. None of it made it to the final game.

this >>323708246 is from the final game
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>>323708608
It is under budget. Schafer is a fucking scam artist.
The game isn't going to be nearly as expansive as the first one, and he'll still ask for more money.
This guy needed 3 million to make a shitty adventure game and you expect him to make a full 3D platformer with an open world and 50 voice acted characters?
Dude is pocketing a million while putting out products that look like they have a budget under 500K.
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>>323705386
Besides the music genre it's stuff being made but never completed. Like Earthbound 64, Sonic X-Treme and the original version of Resident Evil 2.
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>>323708518
What part of "No they must use this money towards developing the game" could they possibly take back after spelling it out.
Fuck even if they did spend the money wrong those terms you bitch about mean they have to pay it all back 10% interest.
Pocketing the money means they'd have to pay even more back to investors fucktard.
Way to selectively tinfoil an entire document
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>>323702691
Well the original writer Erik Wolpaw (who also help write Portal and Portal 2) is returning, so I might have a slight glimmer of hope if Tim doesn't blow the budget on partying again.
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>>323709082
He's also getting partly funded via a mystery benefactor (likely Notch) and Double Fine is putting some of their own money as well.
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>>323708408
Really? Despite the issues I had with the game I still thought it looked very nice.
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>>323709173
Yeah, but if they waste the money by jerking off in the office and pretending to work hard on the game the whole time while actually lazily polishing a turd using a small fraction of the time, they can pretend it's a "good faith" effort and you can't object for shit legally speaking.

Even worse, Tim is such a manchild that he probably IS actually doing it out of ignorance rather than malice. Kotick was right about him.
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>>323702691
Nope. Psychonauts 2 is the game they've wanted to make since Psychonauts 1 was released. There's no way they're going to just not do anything with this.
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>>323705857
thats futurefunk not vaporwave
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>>323707512
What did he say that was wrong? If it's Early Access and they gave you a list of features that MIGHT be in the final game, and make it very clear that their inclusion is only a possibility, you can't complain that they didn't fulfill their obligations because they warned you in advance that those features were contingent on the game being popular enough to remain financially sustainable.
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>>323707520
>the developer is in complete control.... Of how the money is spent
L2read goyim. When he says 90% will be spent on development and the rest on "associated" costs. Those are bullshit numbers that can easily, and legaly be reversed.

Hollywood is notorious for this. Its a trick they use to avoid paying people because they never offically end production. Go look up the guy who played Darth Vader in the original films, he still cant get paid because 30+ years later George Lucas is billing $8 cups of coffee to the films budget.
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>>323707520
>Write legal document that explicitly states you can pass the money through your anus and the investor can't do shit
>IT'S TO AVOID OVERHEAD GUYS
>VIDEO BUSTED, TIM IS BEST
Are people really this retarded?
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>>323705747
>people still act like customers had to pay extra for Broken Age act 2
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>>323708973
There's a lot of shady shit going on. There are several things that could be going on.
They might have a publisher that wanted them to ask for more money just because. The Broken Age kickstarter might have convinced someone to invest in them. They are going to pretend a publisher approached them after they were funded by fans.
They might have an old Psychonauts 2 prototype lying around that they stopped working on due to financial issues.
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>>323709314
>Double Fine is putting some of their own money as well.

That's going to end well.
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>>323709504
>People responsible are giving their investors legal ammunition against them
>NO IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE GOYUM, THEY CAN JUST LIE AND KEEP IT ALL AGAINST THIER OWN FUCKING CONTRACT
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>>323709082
They never claimed they were making for Psychonauts 2 for 3.3 million alone. You'd know that if you even bothered to read the Fig page. Why are the anti-Tim kiddies so goddamn stupid that they can't even get basic facts straight?
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Anyone here play Massive Chalice? That game was awesome. It was kickstarted too! Why are people so sour about Pyschonauts then?
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>>323709173
If it's not written on a contract or some other legal document, it doesn't mean shit.

>b-b-but the good merchant said he wouldn't jew me!

Your money deserves to get cucked if you believe some shitty Reddit post that they can easily delete and claim any screencaps are photoshops/troll accounts.
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>>323709890
>Legal ammunition
It's not fucking legal ammunition, did you read the actual post? Do you know a single fucking thing about investing?
I know that you need to shill to catch as many suckers as possible, but at least try.
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>>323709890
>giving ammo
No. Your reading comprehension just sucks, or you are a shill.
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>>323710134
Stop pretending to be retarded, moron. Do you have nothing better to do than shitposts in these threads where people are trying to talk about video games?
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>>323706079
hand of fate and ftl. but you might not like them.
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>>323709476
It's called Hollywood accounting, and it's why only chumps negotiate for net profit.

Small time actors take lump sums, maybe with a tiny spec of gross after sufficient gross.

Big actors tend to demand either a steep fee or gross profit on a significant scale.
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>>323705997
I can take a shit and say it costed 3.3 million dollars.
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>>323710150
Massive Chalice was Xcom but not as good.
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>>323706079
I quite liked Dreamfall.
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>>323707512
Shilling knows no limits.
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>>323707520
The guy in charge cant do figures yet they're literally throwing money at him without audit?


I still dont see how this is proof that DF wont mismanage project funds again.
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>>323707520
>they MUST use the money towards developing the game

This is a completely pointless thing to say when there's no-one enforcing this rule. No-one is checking receipts and making sure they do, so they can spend whatever they want on the game and pocket the rest.

This is proof of absolutely nothing.
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>>323707520
Literally refutes nothing in the video and only confirms a ponzi scheme where the money is held by another company who does the lisencing and publishing but can give funds at any time to DF.
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>>323709356
>>323710168
>>323710189
>>323709476
Hey you dumb faggots, you ever hear about The Doom that Came to Atlantic City, or Asylum Playing cards?
Those were shitty ass fucking campaigns that tried to write off huge personal expenses like the Creator personally moving to another state, personal good, and liscenses.
The other didn't deliver the good it promised.
They both lost class action lawsuits from thier backers and were forced to pay it all back.
If you think DF can write off hookers and blow as a "dev expense" or not deliver this game and manage to walk away scott free you're fooling yourself.
This Crowdfund was Way too fucking huge for it to not go down like this if Fig even tries this bullshit. Especially when their contract has a forced payback clause.
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>>323709070
So it's still fucking concept art tier.

It has fucking shitty digital brushwork still.
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>>323704294
Thought predicting games to become vaporware was shit posting until I accidentally downloaded cube world instead of a LEGAL Torrent
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There's a reason people in the game industry won't give him Tim Schafer cent and he has to crowdfund everything now.
His games constantly have problems during development, all of them involving money. There's no way Psychonauts isn't gonna go down the same route.

If Psychonauts end up being a good game then I'll eat crow and say I was wrong about Tim, but I'm not holding my breath
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>>323709351
Looks like it was made in flash.

There is almost no depth there at all.

Is the background beyond the tree root a cutout?
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>>323711614
Not really, in the corporate structure of a company like Doublefine it's way easier to obfuscate these expenses as project related. Hold a "meeting" and then bullshit that you talked about developing the game while writing off huge catering/restaurant expenses. Travel somewhere to "meet" someone you want to work on the game and say the hotels were an expense to develop the game. And so on.
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>>323711614
None of those are being done through Fig you fucking mongoloid.
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>>323702691
The funding has a huge amount of investors that have given $0 so far, if ever.

The rest is coming from some source

Tim can't keep to a budget

This can only go badly
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>>323711614
>Let me tell you about these completely unrelated things that nobody claimed are happening on these two extreme cases
Top fucking kek. Nobody here said the game isn't going to get made eventually even, learn to read.
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>>323711871
>>323711883
If they even tried that fucking bullshit the legal kikes would rip them to shreds. Doom from Atlantic spent the money on business liscenses and travel and still got reamed by legal kikes.You think a larger exposure project could get away with writing off fucking foos and airfare? If Tim even tries doing that shit he's fucked up his asshole
He either makes a fucking game or gets hit by america's solution to everything.
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>>323712441
So you mean Shell companies don't exist to cover Company asses?

Oh wait, they do.
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>>323712441
Such things are conventionally treated as business expenses within the industry when done within reason, even if they aren't really reasonable for a project of this length and scope.
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>>323702691
Psychonauts 2 Episode 1 will be OK
Psychonauts 2 Episode 2 will be dogshit
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>>323712392
>Two kikestarts that kept making promises they'll get made get sued off thier asses
>Lol falseflagging
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>>323712613
>Two idiots made literal scams without legal shielding and got rekt
>This is related somehow to this whole shell company investor returns fiasco and DF's usual budget misuse
Okay.
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>>323707520
>goes straight through
wording to make it sound like it doesn't really go through when it does. They can easily add but that's business time

>we must use the money towards developing the game
Basically any act can be considered that. Paying for meetings? Making the game. Socialising? It is networking. Everyone gets new chairs? Employee happiness

>more oriented
What we ant you to think it is but can be what you said
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>>323712523
>>323712561
You're still arguing that this shit is even doable.
Every legal precedent to something like you suggest would put Fig and Tim in deep shit if they tried the carrot and string ploy and spent all their fucking cash on fluff like gourmet banquets.
Tim's fucked, maybe in like the first 2 years of kickstarter he could try this shit, but crowdfunding has become so legally fucked to the Campaigner he better pray he doesn't fuck up this time.
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>>323713315
>Fig channels money to Shell company set up in Delaware.

>If the game fucks up, Fig's parent company broken tooth can just stop funding them

>Fig goes bust, has little to no assets, can't pay back funds.

>Contract FOR being an investor with Fig states you have no rights and the payment to doublefine and Broken Tooth takes priority over yours.

Literally everything there is legal, there is nothing illegal about making a contract that fucks you over.
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>>323713226
>A company took money from people and didn't give the product
>An idealist with a cool game took money and didn't give the product
>You dumb fuck this is neither of those things
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>>323712441
You realise companies do this everyday right? Well done you got one example of a smaller inexperienced company on a website that says it will mandate this stuff

Now try an expert at scaming who has been in the industry for years and running his own company for 10 years+
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>>323713591
Nobody said the game won't get released in some form you retard.
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>>323711630
>So it's still fucking concept art tier.
That's like... a high tier. The whole point was to make the game look like a painting, so if it looks like the concept art then they did pretty well.
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>>323708398
You can do ambitious projects without being a fucking idiot and going over budget.

See: Shinji Mikami, Suda51, Yoko Taro. FUCKING NINTENDO.
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>>323713525
You're forgetting
>Fig and DF get class action suits for not delivering a product
>one or both are found at fault and pay up big
Doom from Atlantic's company went belly up but that didn't stop him from getting sued and paying it back. And going under doesn't make you immune to lawsuits.
America is a country where you can win lawsuits from your fucking coffee being to hot. There isn't a shark who couldn't win this case blindfolded if it fucks up
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>>323713983
>Make the game look like a painting
>By making it look like a painting ANYONE can do.

That's not even mid tier. That's "Shat out as concept for a few weeks of time to plan a scene" tier.

THIS is a painting.
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>>323704527
>Believing Reddit pr

Maybe you should stay there.
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>>323714109
>Get Class action suit.
>On not delivering a product.

They do give you the product, they give you the stocks.
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>>323714059
>FUCKING NINTENDO.
LOL, what makes you think they never went over budget on anything? I'm sure there have piles of games they never released. They even pay employees when they have no projects to work on to keep moral up. They just don't publish the costs of their games very much.
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why does this sub hate double fine so much?
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>>323714109
I don't think you actually understood what he said. Watch that video at the top of the thread and try to get another example
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>>323702691
if it does come out it will be shit.

Tim SCHAFERRRR!!
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>>323704294

Okay, so I'm going to be totally serious about my position on this "should I trust Tim Schafer?" issue. I know nobody asked for it, but I feel like I kind of have to say it.

I backed Double Fine Adventure and ultimately didn't enjoy it (it's not a bad game exactly, it just didn't fit the remit of a classic adventure game), I didn't back Massive Chalice, and I think the Space Base issues were handled very badly.

I'm still going to give money to Psychonauts 2. I've never played the first one, and I probably never will.

This year I had a beloved series of mine come back on Kickstarter to triple record-breaking success, and I saw a lot of people who had never played the series pledge because they wanted to see the fans of Shenmue get what they want.

That's why I'm throwing in for Psychonauts 2 despite no connection for the series, or much love for Double Fine. I know there are lofty expectations, but in good faith at least based on the desire to do right by fans, I think if the game is funded it will turn out fine. Effectively, I want to thank any Psychonauts fans who helped make Shenmue III happen, by making Psychonauts 2 a thing.

I'm going to pledge not for Tim Schafer, but for the fans. I think they are the ones who will ultimately lose out if this doesn't happen. Tim and Double Fine will move on to another project, and that'll be that. The fans will get left in the dust thinking about what could have been, and that sucks.

So that's why I'm throwing in for Psychonauts 2.
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>>323714307
>sub
get out.
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>>323714282
Do it look like any of their games had a very large budget?

Their most expensive games were Skyward Sword and Other M, if I'm correct. Both made their money back.
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>Played Extreme G the other day
>Special Thanks to Tim Schafer in the credits just because he wasn't involved
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>>323714498
>Do it look like any of their games had a very large budget?
Nintendo games? uh.. yes?

>Both made their money back.
All Double Fine's games made their money back.
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>>323706637
I want to play her game.
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>>323714429
If it fucks up, be sure to take >>323714109 advise and sue the ever loving shit out of schafer. Make him burn if he tries to kike you. I can't because I didn't put a dime on this shit.
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>>323714429
>I'm still going to give money to Psychonauts 2. I've never played the first one, and I probably never will.

Why don't you just play it you faggot?
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>>323714498
>Do it look like any of their games had a very large budget?
Are you retarded? Do you think how a game looks means how much was spent on it?
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>>323711760
That's a shitty gif. It really does look nice.
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>>323714429
This is like the 4th time that I've seen this post.
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>>323714670
Yes, I'm so sure that Brutal Legends and Psychonauts made all of their money back. That's why Double Fine had to fucking purchase their IPs back.

And considering that Double Fine needs to resort to crowdfunding to fund their games, it would make it look like neither Psychonauts, nor Brutal Legend had very much worth.
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>Defending Schafer
>This is literally what his prospectus says
>$400,000 operating loss last period
>$120,000 in assets
>He deliberately tried to hide this information from investors and it's only available on the SEC
>No dividends, no voting rights, priority for assets on insolvency below everyone else
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Did Double Fine lose a lot of credibility from Broken Age and their support of Anita and friends? I'd have expected Psychonauts 2 to get more fan support than Shenmue 3 tbqh.
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>>323714931
>needs to resort to crowdfunding
You know it is just an easy way to get money with no strings right? That's why people jumped on it as they had less strings attached. Also there are many other reasons than profit for not working with someone again

You seem to not know anything
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>>323715189
Yes, because no publisher wants to give them money. Activision keeps giving Platinum money, but they stay FAR THE FUCK AWAY from Double Fine.

Now why is that?
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>>323714931
>Yes, I'm so sure that Brutal Legends and Psychonauts made all of their money back.
yes, they both did. At least a million dollars of the profits from Brutal Legend funded Broken Age.
>That's why Double Fine *could afford to buy* their IPs back.
I presume this is what you meant to say, because the other thing doesn't make sense. If both games lost money, why would the *have* to buy them back? They wouldn't have money to be able to.

>And considering that Double Fine needs to resort to crowdfunding to fund their games
Double fine have made 26 games, including ones in production. 3 have been crowd funded. The others were funded by publishers or themselves. The only titles they crowdfunded were ones that publishers were not interested in funding. If not for crowd funding, they simply would not have made those games and carried on with the other kinds of titles they make.

>it would make it look like neither Psychonauts, nor Brutal Legend had very much worth.
I guess it would to someone unwilling to think about it very much
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>>323715165
>his prospectus
>Confusing the Fig's shell comanpy with Schafer's Double Fine
Sure he is part of the mess but he isn't the mastermind.
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>>323715374
>Yes, because no publisher wants to give them money
Headhunter is being funded by a publisher, just so you know.
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>>323706079
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>>323705027
I'm so happy James gets to be a toilet.
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>>323715621
I thought he was going to cry on the livestream.
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>>323706079
Darkest Dungeon
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>>323706079
Shovel Knight
Skullgirls
Freedom Planet
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>>323715374
So you don't know anything. Someone who is bad to work with can still turn a profit. Tim was very annoying to deal with for activation and we all know the story, what we don't have is anything saying the game made no money and for the longest time him getting deals with publishers (and still is even with this project which is only part funded by crowd sourcing) who kept giving him money. this only changed when he found another avenue

You don't know what you are talking about and can't back it up. You want to be angry about how he is a hack but don't really understand
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>>323715619
>Trigger
>making anything good
kek
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>>323706079
>no one said undertale yet
Undertale
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>>323715185
Broken Age was a big part of it, also Spacebase DF-9 getting cancelled due to lack of funds.
Plus there's the whole thing with Brutal Legend going over budget and Bobby Kotick being right
Basically Double Fine has shown they're incompetent when it comes to money management and I'm a little surprised Psychonauts 2 got fully funded
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>>323715715
People like James Willems and Michael Huber, with their indomitable spirit and absolute joy they're able to bring to the video games they love, are just a few of the things out there in the current game's industry landscape that lets me step back from cynicism and just enjoy our hobby and the games contained within them.

I stopped shitposting after the GameTrailers reaction footage.
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>>323715818
ok so shovel knight
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>>323715969
>Little Witch Academy
>Shit
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>>323706079
Oh hey, another salty Inafune backer, nice meme.
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>>323716304
>Implying the kickstarted sequel wasn't completely subpar compared to the first episode
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>>323716251
>>323715818
>>323706079
Wasn't Pillars of Eternity kickstarter funded?
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>>323716497
It was shit
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It's going to come out and be bad/middling

I'm going through old interviews and Tim has always been a huge bullshiter. He bragged about how tricked a publisher by faking a printer error on the final puzzle in grim fandango since he didn't have it written at that time
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>>323715619
That got funded by the goverment.

The LWA2 kickstarter was to extend it by 15 minutes.
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Of course it did considering Tim kept extending the deadline by 10 days.
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>>323716725
>He bragged about how tricked a publisher by faking a printer error on the final puzzle in grim fandango since he didn't have it written at that time
Didn't Lucasarts publish their own games?
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>>323716668
Mmm, not in your taste, maybe, but I don't think anyone can sit there, look at the full and total catalog of top-down tactical isometric RPGs like Fallout and Planescape: Torment, and say that PoE is objective shit.

Game's a goddamn landmark title for writing and narrative.
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>>323716668
Also, have you played it?
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>>323714059
>nintendo games never get delayed or go overbudget

I laughed.

So when's Zelda Wii U coming out? you do realize that when projects get delayed that much, the budget likewise increases, because you have to pay your team for those extra work hours.
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>>323715619
back ally tech dealing witch/mechromancer best girl
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>>323715512
Mastermind or not, he's deeply involved. He makes his game, his friends run off with the money from their cute little Ponzi scheme. He's not a martyr. He's not innocent. The people who built the Death Star knew what they were doing and who they were helping.
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>>323716930
I'll take "Shit That Didn't Happen for 500" Alex.

5 days isn't 10 days you gimp, and they were already fully funded before the original deadline in any case.
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