There's a skylanders racing game with 3 different race types. Each vehicle you buy falls into one of those types so you can have an entire race type locked behind paywall since you cant use land vehicles in water
>>323687913 It would be great if you had all the characters without paying. Graphics seem outdated but who knows, it might just be my shit vision I play it with my cousin when i visit He has some mental illness
The other 2 guarantees you that your figure will give you something.
Amiibos can't even guarantee if your figure will unlock shit in any game. Game and Watch probably has 2 compatible games last I checked while Yoshi works on practically every fucking game.
And then there's the type of content they unlock is a complete variable. You don't know if it locks gameplay elements or cosmetics, and if they do, you better pray there's a decent reprint because distribution is ass.
At least I know if I buy a Vanellope, I get a fucking Vanellope and I don't have to spend an eternity tracking her down.
It's shitty, but it's pretty much the same thing as the DLC nickel-and-diming that occurs with just about every game these days. If anything, it's a slight step up, because at least these games give you physical merchandise to go with your shitty business practices.
>>323687182 They're not part of this complete neckbeards breakfast and the issue is that a lot of companies seem to think they are a final destination. "People want casual games, people want figurines, people want a pastiche of both!"
I saw the Disney Infinity 3.0 Star Wars starter whatever the fuck on sale at Best Buy for like 40 bucks and almost bought it. I'm big into Star Wars but I can't imagine buying all the figures for 13 bucks a pop.
Is the game even good? What do you actually do in it? Is it like Lego Star Wars or what?
>>323687182 None are that good, but all are fun to collect for ones you like. Disney's all have the same general artstyle and look very ugly and lose individual charms. Dunno about the...game(s?). Skylanders reinvented scalping, notoriously pulled some bad shit by making some kind of horrible light/dark content lock, and are becoming more and more of "buy more to play" instead of being ok with 1. Amiibos had a terrible first release, but are better to find now. Still, they do absolutely fucking nothing worth $12+ in many games, with many doing nothing unique outside of Smash.
>>323689249 If you're patient, Disney Infinity shit goes on sale all the time. If you wait until later this year when Disney Infinity 4.0: Whatever The Fuck It Is This Time comes out, you'll be able to get the Star Wars game and characters for less than half of what they sell for now. I don't even own the games, but I picked up the Guardians of the Galaxy characters for like $4-5 each, just because they're nice-looking figures.
>>323687182 I wonder how Skylanders and Disney Infinity would be if the people buying these figures had the same mindset as a lot of amiibo collectors, who basically hoard them to make money from fags desperate to get one of the more popular ones.
That said, it really doesn't mean jack shit if the supplies aren't fucking terrible like the amiibos.
>>323689685 >>323689456 It wasn't ever really meant to be a Spyro game. With the first game, one of the mockups the toy sculptors made was a dragon that happened to look a bit like Spyro. Activision realized, "hey, we still own the rights to this modestly-popular IP - let's turn that dragon character purple and slap the Spyro name on it and see if it gets any nostalgia sales." It took off, but not because of Spyro's involvement, so they just scaled him back to one of the many characters in future installments.
It's a buggy piece of shit that's way more Jewish than all the other TTL games and literally has pay walls. You can't get past certain barriers unless you own X Y or Z character.
The gameplay is nothing new if you played every other Lego Game and the length is short as fuck. Replaybility is nonexistent unless you keep buying more level packs for 30 bucks that only gives you an hour of content.
At least the other 2 games have some RPG elements and replaybility
Yep, but they're more expensive than the other three.
>>323690086 >I wonder how Skylanders and Disney Infinity would be if the people buying these figures had the same mindset as a lot of amiibo collectors, who basically hoard them to make money from fags desperate to get one of the more popular ones.
That kind of mindset exists in Skylanders, but only for variant figures and older, hard-to-find figures.
>>323690298 >Yep, but they're more expensive than the other three.
With what happened to amiibo they think they all can pull the same over priced shit.
> Frozen, the most popular franchise ever, had a set for 30 bucks. > After amiibo hit the market, for some reason it went up to 35 in stores. > Inside Out comes out. A set with 2 figurines costs 40 bucks.
>>323690419 I'm pretty glad that Amiibo Festival failed, because if I'm honest I'm not fond of how Nintendo is making new amiibos for new games.
Like, the point of amiibo is to unlock content across multiple games, but that novelty is kinda lost when you make new amiibo for a new game. Don't make a new Wolf Link amiibo for Twilight Princess HD and then bundle the game with it, make it so the old Zelda amiibos unlock things in it and keep it at that.
I know the old Zelda amiibos unlock things in TP, but I wish it stayed at that level.
Maybe moving forward Nintendo will start making games with older amiibos in mind instead of making new amiibos for new games. I'd kill for a Mario Party or Nintendoland styled game where I could scan in any amiibo and have that character be the one I'm playing as.
>>323690298 >That kind of mindset exists in Skylanders, but only for variant figures and older, hard-to-find figures. I believe those are the types of figures one would expect to be sought after, especially considering that they are no longer being stocked normally. Nowhere near amiibo levels, but still. Makes me wonder how long it will take for Disney Infinity figures to start going out of production and then go for like twice the original price or more on eBay.
I have the most autistic collection of all three of these fucking games, Like if i took a picture of this shit I'd be deemed with maximum autism.
But you know what? I like hunting them, i like earning money and going out and buying these hard to find figures, calling stores and building my collection. Not to mention leveling them all up and playing through the games, which are a nice respite from shooters and the censored bull shit Nintendo churns out.
The combat in 3.0 is fun as fuck and the character building in Skylanders is fucking great. Amiibos kind of fucking suck.
>>323691215 I'd say the selection of animal crossing characters was reasonable, but I see what you're saying with Ashley and Daisy.
It looked like for a little bit they were going to do a second series of super mario amiibo with Wario, Kong, Rosalina, and Daisy, but those didn't seem to take off at all? I remember Mario Party 10 had art assets that referenced amiibos of those characters but nothing happened.
As for Ashley, I think maybe Ashley will have to get her own standalone game before Nintendo decided to make an Amiibo of her. As much as people on /v/ love Ashley, she's incredibly obscure as far as Nintendo characters go. She's trapped in the Warioware games which haven't been doing well lately.
Skylanders and Infinity are side things in activision and Disney interactive plans, a combination of toys and games that are also easily available
Nintendo's main focus is now on amiibo and has artificial scarcity to make fanboys clamor for every one they can find which leads to neckbeards buying multiple and then scalping them while children who may want their favorite Nintendo character are left without an amiibo plus they hardly do anything and have much lower quality than skylander and infinity
>>323691552 Sometimes online, sometimes I pass by them in stores while looking for other things. It's not something I usually seek out, but most of the big box stores rotate sales in and out. I'm sure there are websites that track the sales or something.
>>323691742 Can you just stop shitposting? >It's bad cause that's all they care about i swear >They're SIDE THINGS for skylander and disney, but they're the MAIN FOCUS for nintendo Just say it's bad for the obvious reason: It's locking content behind toys. Dont just say straight up bullshit.
Disney 1.0 isn't on Steam, and Disney 2.0's steam version is just a digital package of the already "free if you download it from their own website" with the marvel superheroes starter kit, which is more expensive than a physical copy
All of their figures and sets and shit you buy physical copies of come with digital codes that give them to you on PC and ipad.
>>323692316 I've got amiibo in their original packs because I don't give a shit about training them in smash and they don't do anything other than look pretty. How many wii-fit trainers are doing something other than act as hot glue magnets?
>>323692092 >All the content they unlock is optional. Then why you can't unlock content without them? I wouldn't mind if it just takes longer to unlock stuff, but even if it's mostly cosmetics, there is still on-disc locked content you are paying for and unnable to acess.
>>323687182 Damn kids these days and their figurines. When I was young we had action figures, with working joints, and wed play with them instead of some fancy pixel magic on the television.
We bought our sharkhead mutants to actually play with them and not just unlock some ones and zeros in a cheap ass game or to put it in a glass cabinet along with the rest of the useless heaps of plastic some people call a collection.
>>323692536 I'm thinking that because she has a costume in Mario Maker, she'll probably get an amiibo somewhere down the line pretty soon.
Timmy and Tommy Nook were in Mario Maker months before their amiibos were announced, so I'd say it's safe to assume that Mario Maker was made with planned, but unannounced amiibos in mind. We might even see Nikki get one soon.
>figurines are physical DLC >for worse, but also for the better >you can lend, borrow, give or resale your physical DLC like you would do with a physical game >while you can't share at all most digital DLCs
>>323693261 You forgot: >Online services will shut down one day. With your figure, you can still have accees to that dlc unlike someone who bought it digitally. >Most of these figures work across multiple titles, meaning you get more dlc for the price of one
>>323693754 >But knowing Nintendo they probably won't. It's not Nintendo, it's the Pokemon Company. They're stupidly protective of the Pokemon IP.
Fun fact that a lot of people don't know: Nintendo doesn't actually own Pokemon. They have a bizarre exclusivity agreement that technically the Pokemon company could pull out of at any point if they felt like it.
That's why the Pokemon amiibos don't do anything. The president of the Pokemon Company has autism and if Nintendo makes the wrong move they could go NUHHH UR STEALIN MUH POKEMANS and yank away Nintendo's biggest cash cow.
>>323693981 >Traditional DLC is easily and widely available with no stock shortage until said service is shut down for some reason >DLC locked behind physical goods >If production stop or poor distribution then DLC may never be obtained in the first place or in the future without
They both have their pros and cons, don't pretend that this shit is the only way
>>323694253 It's more of a weird stalemate, really, where TPC owns the Pokemon IP and brand name, but Nintendo owns a bunch of major Pokemon assets (a number of game mechanics, some character designs, etc.). So while both of them could pull out at any time, neither could make Pokemon games as we know them without the involvement of both companies. So they're stuck in this weird limbo of trying to appease each other to keep their cash cow afloat. Incidentally, that's probably why Nintendo has been working so hard with Level-5 to try and replicate Yokai Watch's Japanese success worldwide - having another exclusive cash-cow IP whose owners are easier to work with than TPC is in their best interests.
Seems to depend on the game. I have only 2 amiibos I got purely just to sit on my shelf and whenever I decided to try them out on a respective game I usually get something really uninteresting (the fucking 'we didn't make a costume for this amiibo' wooly yoshi costume) or some ai thing to fuck around with in smash that I don't think ANYONE is missing out on. But I don't think Nintendo wants amiibo to be collectors items and they're failing pretty hard at that.
Then you get that animal crossing game that I can't believe exists and is retailing full price. It's literally a low budget luck based board game with an expensive character select screen. I don't understand how this could turn into a solid business model from anyone involved in greenlighting the project. It would have made sense to have the AC amiibo compatible with the actual game people care about (new leaf).
>>323698121 >It would have made sense to have the AC amiibo compatible with the actual game people care about (new leaf). New Leaf predated amiibo by nearly two years, you couldn't really patch amiibo support in to a game that old and established. They'd have to make a brand new Animal Crossing game built from the ground up with amiibo in mind.
>mfw i just imagined an animal crossing game where you could get villagers inspired by nintendo characters from like every amiibo
People are more negative toward these things that they need to be because in their mind they still frame it as "they locked away part of the game that would be available to me for free otherwise", but in reality companies have their whole business model contructed around this, with the budget and expected revenue of the DLC content accounted for.
>>323689940 what do you mean that's besides the point? THAT IS THE POINT YOU DUMB FUCK
They're good because they don't lock levels and characters behind a pay wall. When you buy smash, you get all of smash (- dlc characters) and amiibo just add little things as they should. You don't need to pay $13 to play like you do with they other ones. You are actually retarded.
>>323702920 I know people might hate the idea, but if Nintendo tried to do something akin to Infinity and Skylanders, they might have something that could potentially be worth getting a piece of plastic.
But when Nintendo rolls it out (and they will) this baord will say how innovative it is and claim how it's GOTY.
Amiibo Festival got trashed because the game itself had absolutely nothing to offer and the only Amiibos that worked are the ones from the AC line. Not to mention the maximum jewing they did for Isabelle and Tom Nook ones.
I love the idea of scanning a little toy and having the character pop up in the game, but the costs are a huge turn off to me. Nintendo's the only one of the three with characters I really care about too, but there's not many games with a strong enough use for them, let alone that are good.
I'm still hoping for an original game like Skylanders but with overtly cute jap designs.
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