This is the best hack n slash game ever made.
Prove me wrong.
Pro tip: You can't.
I prefer Bayonetta 2, and equally like Ninja Gaiden
DMC4's combat is better, graphics, more characters and more options for combat.
DMC3's structure, level design, story..basically everything else is better.
The only thing that is on par is music.
I still play DMC4 more though, what is wrong with me.
Definitely not Hack and slash. Hack and slash is for GoW and the like, not games focused on style and complex combos. Though I would say character action/spectacle fighter/Cuhrazy, is a subset of hack and slash (with the exception of Godhand)
>Bayo2 + 1
>Wind Waker HD
>All Metroid games ever
>most Zelda games that matter
>great virtual console stuff
>Mario Kart 8 (the best mario kart IMO)
i like this console a lot.
You wanna know something hilarious?
I found this Capcom book the other day in Barnes & Nobles that was like a character encyclopedia.
On Dante's page, the author or whoever wrote it credited DMC as the founder of the "character action" genre
It was kinda bizarre because I've been calling DMC hack n' slash for as long as I can remember
But it also has Wonderful 101, which helps. Then if you're interested in Smash/Kart/Musou you can probably justify making the leap. But for Bayo 2 alone? No. It's a fantastic game but not worth an entire console on it's own.
I just call them action games. That's kind of a vague way to put it, but most other action-oriented games have some other qualifiers I can refer to them with, whereas DMC, Bayonetta, etc., feel more like purely action games.
I REALLY like how W101 has no combo strings and instead is about chaining together moves which can all be done raw. Just a shame about the lack of moves. Seriously only three per weapon? You can't use stick inputs to do all four moves with your assist morphs? It's such great combat fundamentals let down by a lack of variety and depth.
A wonderful 101 sequel would probably be the best thing ever but >5000 copies sold
If the game had been designed with assist morphs in mind from the beginning, you'd probably be able to do more with them. But they just came up with the idea a few months before the game released.
Literally all they'd have had to do to make assist morphs useful and fun is allow stick inputs when pressing X to create them just like the main morphs. As it is now they're hard locked into one move. Assist gun always does cyclone for instance.
Also the game desperately needs a style system beyond the basic combo system. I've seen people do absolutely crazy shit but there's no reason to because you can get high combo without huge variety.
>DmC's special edition actually managed to fix a significant amount of its problems and while it still doesn't measure up to its predecessors it's easily the best character action game from a western developer
Can we agree on this?
Bayonetta 1 was designed with the intention of you not relying on Witch Time the better you got at the game. Gracious and Glorious is supposed to be your first taste of that on a normal playthrough, and the highest difficulty disables Witch Time entirely, except for special circumstances.
shit sorry I misread your post
really fucking tired right now
Hell they both seem like what would be considered hacknslash and all those other names, just a bit shittier looking
The original game suffered from a huge amount of flaws.
>no manual lock on, bad auto lock on
>bad style system determined purely by damage
>weapon locked enemies is the complete antithesis of what DMC's gameplay is about
The rerelease fixed a ton of problems, gave us must-style, and turbo mode is a welcome addition. It's still nowhere near DMC3/4 tier and it has like no good memorable boss fights but it's actually surprisingly good now.
>want to play W101 for the combat
>only like 8-10 fights per level
>only like 18 levels
>long tedious connecting segments between each fight
>shitty alternate gameplay section in EVERY level
>hack and slash
SHIT LIKE DIABLO IS HACK AND SLASH
I like DMC3 but honestly I didn't care for most of the bosses. There's Vergil, Agni and Rudra, and that's it, the rest are mediocre or shit. DMC4 recycled its bosses way too often but at least I didn't hate fighting them (except Sanctus).
Also DMC4 has style switching which is amazing. If only the game was actually fucking finished.