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>I've been refunding a lot of games because I thought they'd be good but they were shit
>Steam sends me this passive aggressive message reminding me to check out user reviews

I like that I can try new games without worrying that I might waste my money on something I don't like, but does anybody know if at some point Steam decides that you've had enough refunds and stops giving them?
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Considering all the stupid shit reviews that everyone thumbs up, steam should be ashamed for even mentioning them.
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how many refunds did u ask?

you can still open another account and buy games on that one until the same message appears
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>people still buy shitty games somehow

Kill yourself OP
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Oh yeah, let me filter through the first 30 fucking meme reviews to try and find something that resembles conscious thought.

Steam is near chaos in some situations.
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>>323656713
>I like that I can try new games without worrying
Steam refunds are not a way for you to demo a game, they are there so you can get money back on a broken buggy game
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>>323656713
Of course it's passive aggressive. I don't know if you've worked in a job sector that provides refunding of products, but usually it's an absolute pain in the arse on their end, even worse when done electronically. Half of the time, refunds are the result of you being a stupid, ignorant and uninformed consumer that doesn't do their research before purchasing, therefore buying shit willy nilly before throwing a massive temper tantrum when you realize you bought a load of shit.
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>>323656976
Cant you just... check on Youtube for some review or just gameplay from the game and see if it's your style?
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>>323657013
>>you realize you bought a load of shit.

Well the company wouldn't have this problem if you didn't sell loads of shit by the bucket load.
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>>323657062
>Thinking you can tell exactly how a game plays based on footage or some third party's own version of his subjective truth

Which never takes into account things like controls, feel, etc
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>>323657075
Thanks PC gaming!
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>>323656713
>passive aggressive
Go back to /pol/, fucktard.
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>>323657075
Then why do you buy the bucket loads of shit?
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>>323657134
It can give you a pretty good idea.
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You can't try new games without worrying that you might waste money. It's not what this system is for.
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>>323657134
>using lame ass excusses
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>>323657139
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>>323657164
Nah, he's right. Technical reviewers for videogames are very, very rare. And for the most part they don't even touch modern stuff.
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>>323657227
Reading the helpful reviews of Steam can give you a good idea. Also the number of curators suggesting it to you is also a good indicator.
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>>323657214
Calm your butthurt valvedrone
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>>323656713
>being that faggot that makes everyones job that much shittier

wew lad I bet you go and get refunds/exchanges on your books and movies after you're done with them
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>>323657271
Call me a hipster if you want, but having too many people backing up a game is usually a bad sign.
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>>323656713
Why the hell would you not just pirate everything on PC? Why would you ever go through a 3rd party?
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>>323657271
>Reading the helpful reviews of Steam can give you a good idea.

"I do dis in game and then dis happen. 10/10"

9,999 out of 10,000 people found this review helpful

>Also the number of curators suggesting it to you is also a good indicator.

You mean tards like Totalbiscuit, Sterling or joke curators like Anime Waifu Hunter?
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>>323657369
you're retarded
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>>323657415
No, but the Steam community is.
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>SRIV was advertised with the promise of official modding support
>Buy game
>Devs cancel modding support after release
>Steam wont refund it
>Meanwhile everyone else can get refunds because "I don't like it"
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>>323657272
How am I butthurt? You said "Thanks PC Gaming", I showed you an example of a game on PS4 that was widely disappointing, short and costed 60$.
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>>323657452
Valve defense force please go
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>that guy who asks for a refund for his food at a restaurant because he doesn't like it
Deal with your shitty choices you faggot
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>>323657509
>Another terrible food comparison

Video games aren't food
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>>323656713
The only passive aggressiveness here is yours, coming here to bitch about it impotently.
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>>323657390
They do a good job at suggesting good games.

They are tools, make your own choice.
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>>323657369
Yeah, you're a hipster.
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I have refunded over 10 games over the winter sales period and haven't seen this message. How many fucking games did you refund?
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>>323657452
no he's "epic trolling" you just don't get it.
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>>323657575
>They do a good job at suggesting good games.

No they don't.

>They are tools

You got that right
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>logged into server
>saw a piece of toast
>i kicked it
>got kidnapped by germans
>they forced me to listen to christmas carols
>11/10 would play again

>Was this review helpful?
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>>323657501
Lead the way.
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>>323657549
>go to theater and ask for refund of movie you didn't like
is that better? still a faggot.
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>>323657584
10 years ago I would have been. Now I just know better than to trust the industry's target audience.
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>>323656713
This is why I still do the whole pirate before you try thing. This way I can check to see if the game isn't shit without having to request refunds all the time plus it works on nonsteam games
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>>323657648
I wasnt aware that not being okay with the shovelware flooding steam was trolling someone.
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>>323657687
Well it definitely got my attention by sheer nonsense, so, kinda...
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How the fuck can you fall for shit games in 2016? You're always one youtube search away from literally hundreds of gameplay vids

>>323656976
like /v/?
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>>323657075
either you don't have any idea what you like, or you don't know how to find out about what a game is about before you buy. either way the "passive aggressive" reminder is an attempt to better yourself
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>>323657448
People upvoting every lulzy review are not the majority of the steam community.
They are just the most obnoxious ones.

like these/is guy(s).
>>323657272
>>323657139
>>323657501
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>>323657960
90 are done by people who are painful to watch and listen to, and of those 10, 7 are also crap just not revolting.
finding the good 3 is a matter of overdedication or luck.
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>>323657575
>They do a good job at suggesting good games
No they don't.
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>>323658181
>and listen to
I said gameplay vids, not shitty "Let's Plays" or attentionwhoring "reviews"
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>>323658065
Piss off valvedrone
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>>323658196
hey idiot, you're supposed to find somebody who shares similar values/principles as you do and see how they like something. just because you're a lazy asshole who doesn't know how to use the internet, that doesn't mean people are wrong for listening to people who share the same tastes
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>>323658928
>you're supposed to find somebody who shares similar values/principles as you do and see how they like something

Except that's literally impossible.

Even Roger Ebert liked the Star Wars Prequels and didn't like A Clockwork Orange because "muh violence against women!"
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>>323659032
Roger Ebert is literally the worst person in existence
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>>323659032
>Except that's literally impossible.
>Roger Ebert
you're just a lazy faggot who doesn't know how to use the internet or to think for yourself. insufferable even to automated services. if you can't find someone you mostly agree with, find parts of criticism/praise from people you trust know what they're talking. do you know how to think independently? if yes, do that. if no, kill yourself.
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>>323656713
>>Why should I waste my time being an informed consumer and making responsible decisions in an age where I can see literally everything about a game in 2 minutes of googling
>>F-Fuckin nazis am I r-rite guiz?
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>>323656713
>customer reviews
>can _current meme_ would _current meme_ again _meme_/10

Every time.
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>>323657184
>>323657164
>babbies being mad that their shitty favorite games don't get supported with money
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>>323656713
i really wish the refund was 2 weeks OR less then 2 hrs, god i wish i could refund planetary annihilation
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>>323659401
>BOUGHT GAME
>STARTED GAME
>MOM TOLD ME TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH
>I TOLD HER MY KNEE HURTS
>SHE BITCHED AT ME FOR 30 MINUTES BUT FINALLY TOOK THE GARBAGE OUT HERSELF
>EBIN SIMPLY EBIN
>100/10 WOULD PLAY AGAIN
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>these people are posting on /v/ right now
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How every thread about refunds devolve to
>"Hey /v/ I'm fucking retarded and literally can't stop spending money, Valve is jewing me by not letting me own every game in Steam's library for 2 hours"
>"Refunds aren't a demo system retard"
>"WELL MUH EU LAW SAYS I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A REFUND FOR ANY REASON FUCK AMERICA THEY'RE BREAKING EU LAW EU HASN'T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT YET BECAUSE NO ONE HAS EVER MADE THIS COMPLAINT PEPPER YOUR ANGUS VALVE"
>"Wow enjoy that ass fucking, not allowing any retard to take whatever he wants for free is anti consumer companies aren't allowed to make money"
>"Wow what a bunch of fucking jews wanting money for what they made! I also want to keep my money but this is different, so if you point out this double think you're a shill!"
80% of people here are retarded children screaming for free shit and doesn't know how businesses work.
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>>323660882
>>"Wow what a bunch of fucking jews wanting money for what they made! I also want to keep my money but this is different, so if you point out this double think you're a shill!"
Deal with it. If a game doesn't have a demo I don't see why OP shouldn't be able to try out a game first (especially when it comes to PC games and their optimization), either through piracy or the refund system, though I have no idea why he would choose the latter.

It's always hilarious how immensely asshurt people get from refunds. If your game is good, bug free and has good amount of content for the cost people won't refund it, it's simple as that. I don't see any reason why the "poor developers who need to feed their family" argument should hold if they're knowingly supplying people with lackluster or outright broken products.
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JUST WANNA PLAY VIDEOGAMES!
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>>323661468
Refunds aren't demos you brain dead hick.
Never were.
If you're too fucking stupid to research something before you buy it than fuck off.
>See one game
>3% approval rating
>See another
>99%
>"Well better buy both even though I can't afford them"
Nah, buying with the intention of refunding is fucking retarded, you're retarded.
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>>323656713
no they're just reminding you that you can actually be more discerning in your purchases instead of relying on meme reviews
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>>323656713

>Year 2016 after our lord Jesus Christ was born
>He somehow need to play games to see if they are shit or not
>In the day and age where every new released game gets atleast 100 Lets Play videos at Day 1 to check if the game is bugged or the game mechanics pleasure you

I dont like Valve but even i can understand why they send you this message
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>Refund Amazon products too much
>Get banned
>Refund Gamestop purchases too often
>Banned
>Refund Steam purchases too much
>Warned
>300 post threads about anti consumer practices and how cancerous the video game industry is
>Use the word entitled
>"STOP USING BUZZWORDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>>323661607
The only reason retail stores disallow giving videogame refunds outside the plastic wrapping is because of piracy, otherwise they would allow refunds. Why are you against someone buying a game, not enjoying it, and getting a return? You can literally go anywhere, to any place, that sells any thing; and almost 100% of the time get a refund.

So why are you against people getting refunds through steam?
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>>323661763
These faggots don't remember the good old days where looking at the back of the fucking case was all you had to go on when you got a game.
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>>323656976
its called metacritic you dipshit its what every gamedev has feared for the past 8 years
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>>323662120
I'm not against it.
Not at all.
I'm against children who think it's a method of trying out 3000 games because they buy with the intention of not being a customer, but a window shopper, and they have the balls to get mad when the company protects itself by telling them to fuck off, which every single industry does.
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>>323661607
Talking in extremes and repeating what you said in ebin greentext isn't really going to help you make your point. And what if the refund system is not officially meant for demos? Are you saying forcing people to buy pigs in a poke is good, especially considering the possible optimization problems when it comes to PC games? Do you actually think developers and publishers should be compensated for putting out shitty products?

Like I said, the only ones getting hurt by refunds are short, overpriced 2deep4u walking sims, AAA games with shitty PC ports and a bunch of triggered crazies who think they're "standing up for the little man" by speaking against a practice that has been the accepted norm in pretty much every other type of industry for years.
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>>323657735
If the movie lasts 2 and a half hours and I only stay for 1 hour because the movie is shit my theater gives me a refund.
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>>323660882
>>"WELL MUH EU LAW SAYS I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A REFUND FOR ANY REASON
It doesn't, for digital stuff
Maybe people should actually read the laws
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>>323656812
>did thing
>did another thing
>10/10 would thing again
>1,552 of 2,316 people (67%) found this review helpful
>132 people found this review funny
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>>323656812
>>323662267
>comment on the review saying 'this isn't funny or helpful stop saying it is'
>comment gets removed
>other comments are 'LOL' 'best review ever!!' 'xD'
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>>323662234
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE REFUND SYSTEM
I'M TIRED OF RETARDS ABUSING THE SYSTEM AND GOING ON RAMPAGES WHEN THEY GET WHAT THEY DESERVE.
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>>323662267
>game did a randumb XD prescripted thing
>10/10

Or

>i died like a bitch, this game is for hardcore gamers only
>10/10

>both reviewers have less than an hour game time
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>>323656713
Nothing passive agressive about that.
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>>323662228
Fair enough, but every store, including steam, has rules and regulations for returns. And everybody takes advantage of loopholes to save a buck given the chance.

Indie devs have always had a silver spoon in their mouths when it comes to their games and their customers. If the market doesn't suit your needs, find another one; which they won't, because Steam, regardless how "shitty" indies claim it to be, boost the fuck out of their sales.
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>>323657148
>filename's third letter is missing
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>>323656713
If games aren't going to let customers try before they buy then they should expect a lot of refunds for the buggy messes that get shat all over steam
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>>323662570
meta-level shitposting
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>>323662548
Hey man, indies can fuck right off for all I care, that's the nature of indies anyway, there's literally thousands of these faggots, so if you want to stand out make something I want to play.
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>>323656713
Steam should introduce "demo" mode. you can play a game only once for one hour. Then the game shuts down and you either buy or uninstall it.
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>>323662668
This, fuck indies.

90% of them are shite. They're awful.
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>>323657369
What
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>>323662719
>one hour
imagine all those indie games you could finish without even buying them
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>>323657369
That makes you a super special snowflake
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>>323663034
Then perhaps indie devs should fucking make some effort in their games or ask less money from the shit. There is no justification to pay 5$/5€ from hour long game. It's not even worth of 1.
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>>323663034
All of those newgrounds tier games ready to played....
You could find 3 diamonds in a 100 ton mountain of shit.
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>>323662136
Seriously. And it was chaos. I remember trying to find out if a game was coop or not was the worst thing ever.
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>>323663219
>(Insert genre here)... with a friend
>Said friend is AI companion.
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>>323662136
>cases
Only console disc games came in boxes. If you had disc games, you had demo discs. No excuse.
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>>323663337
Why in the world would you actively go out and collect a demo disc?
My dad got some from a magazine when I was young but it's not like he could pick which games he got.
If something without any exposure looked interesting it was literally a crapshoot.
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Damn the simply ebin indie devs are out in full force.
If your mad because your shitty game got refunded, stop making shitty games that can be beat in 15 minutes.
If steam is mad about the situation, maybe they should require demos, or just shut the fuck up and keep refunding.
I've never gotten a steam refund, but I don't buy shitty indie games either. 90% of my games come from gray market sites with PayPal.
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>>323657380
Multiplayer.
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>>323663575
Whoa whoa whoa.
I dislike retards who think Valve is being jews by not letting you refund 2 grand in game purchases because you're a shitty consumer.
Indies are a doggy dog world and only the top 1% deserve any money because almost all indies suck shit.
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>>323663479
I fucking loved demo discs when I was a kid. I didn't have the money to buy a lot of games, I could only afford buying something like 1 or 2 games at most every 6-7 months and that's all I had, so I ended up subscribing to gaming magazines. They came with free demo discs with all the new amazing games and sometimes they even had free games in them.

It was the shit, I spent so many hours playing the same segment of some games in the demos over and over and over again.
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>>323656713

Shit, if you refund as often as you post this thread I can see where they might have a problem with it.
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>>323656713
It's Steam's fault you have poor judgement and internet skills?
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>>323660784
>toxic consumer-first ideology

Nope. I'm still not okay with this line of thought existing in my universe.
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