I've never played a From Software game but I want to start because they look fuggin dank. should I start with Bloodborne or Dark Souls 2?
You really should start with Dark Souls 1 just so you get an idea of how DaS2 and BB diverge from one another.
Dark Souls 2 is of significantly lesser quality than Dark Souls 1, and is easily the worst Souls game. Definitely start with Dark Souls 1.
Just because it came out later does not mean its better.
Play dark souls two last, first DS1, then bloodborne and DeS if you have a ps3
ds2 is the most mediocre and the longest game BY FAR, which causes most players to get burned out on the series.
It depends on your taste, but generally BB = DS1 > DS2 = DeS.
DeS has a GOAT story and setting, but the mechanics have aged poorly.
DS2 is mediocre in a lot of areas.
DS1 and BB are both equally great for different reasons.
Start with Demon's Souls and make your way through the series in release order. For the best experience never consult a guide or map.
Also play Shadow Tower Abyss at some point because that shit's great.
Don't be a faggot, start with Armored Core.
Demons Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne are all perfectly good games to play without any knowledge of the others.
I played BB>DaS1>DeS, and they are all great and each have strengths and weaknesses.
Pick whichever looked the most appealing to you and play it.
If you are looking for physical copies of the games, then just get Bloodborne. DaS1 is fucking rare even in GameStop pre-owned bargain bins, and I've never seen a copy of DeS. But both are easy to get off Amazon or other online shops (or digital if that floats your boat).
The online community for Demons is basically dead except for the yearly "Return to Demons souls" thing where it spikes. Dark Souls is surprisingly active, on PS3 at least, and Bloodborne is obviously quite active because it's new, recent expansion and there's nothing else to play on ps4.
Don't listen to these Demon Souls babbies, start with King's Field.
On a slightly unrelated note, are any of FromSoft's more traditional RPGs any good? I was thinking of picking up Enchanted Arms.
Demon's is still my favorite Souls thanks to its 10/10 story and atmosphere as well me just preferring a hub world that lets me go in pretty much any order I want compared to a more Metroidvania-esque open world, though I think Dark is probably a slightly better game overall.
implying Dark Souls 2 isn't the inferior Souls game
>Scholar of the first sin
>Above fucking Demon's Souls
How to spot the guy that's never played Demon's Souls
>Lovecraftian environment with unique-to-souls lore and interesting enemies/varying bosses
>Dull environment with typical guy-with-sword boring as shit enemies, no lore aside from reusing the superior predecessor, boring repetitive 'big guy with sword' boss
Dark 2 is not actually a bad place to start because it's worse than Dark 1, so when you play Dark 1 after it it'll feel like an improvement. Doing them in the chronological order would just make you feel disappointed, even though in a vacuum Dark 2 is a good game in its own right.
Bloodborne is kind of its own thing, and it's best for people who want faster combat, more character-actiony.
It's really not as bad as people make it out to be but it's easily the worst game in the series.
Nearly everything was a step down from previous entries.
>Lore was a mess
>Enemy design was dumb
>Level design was nothing special with enemy placement seeming almost random
>Bosses were for the most part weak and very samey
>Soul memory made PVP harder to find
>Roll invincibility was tied to a stat which basically forced you to invest in said stat if you wanted to roll through ANYTHING.
The list goes on but those were the worst things.
Scholar of the first sin was a little better but not much honestly.
Had to uninstall DS2 because I was spending hours alternating an NG+ dex build and an NG Str. build all fucking day through DLC and PVP, and then getting just unreasonably mad when I fucked up
Just started playing SotFS after playing Bloodborne for a while, and has it always been this bad? Was it really this ugly with clunky movement and shit? I feel like I barely have control of my character.
>It's a good game but it's completely separate from Dark Souls and inferior in every way.
How to spot a Dark Souls babby. Dark Souls was just a poor man's Demon's Souls from the get go.
Don't listen to these hipsters OP, DS2 had a few flaws, but scholar of the first sin (the ps4 version) turned ds2 into a truly enjoyable experience.
Bloodborne is also fantastic, but different. More about super fast offense.
Demon's souls was great, but not only is the online virtually dead on ps3 now, but people have forgotten the flaws.
For instance, PVP doesn't control health items in demon's souls, so you'll end up fighting twinks with 99 full heal grass they can use instantly so the fight never ends until someone runs out of items. And twinks are sadly all that remains now.
Dark souls 1 has hit similar territory.
Ps4 dark souls 2 and bloodborne for sure. Try both.
It's not an never was. It's the cherry on the top of an ice cream sundae.
The most prominent instance of PvP in the entire series exists only within the very first game, Demon's Souls. And that's the Old Monk fight.
These are PvE games at heart and always have been. The PvP is there to add more to the replayability and longevity of the game.
not OP but i also just started playing DaS1
should i have played demon souls before because i have no idea what any of this Lore is or what is even happening
also why cant i reverse hollow even though i have humanity? or is it some other kind of humanity?
and what does becoming human even do?
Do what I did.
Play Demon's first. Sink a ton of hours into it.
Take a break. Then play Dark Souls 2 — the first game isn't needed. 2 improves on it too much. Dump a ton of hours into it, near 100% it.
Take another break. Then jump into Bloodborne. Now you're a vet at this series, but Bloodborne throws all the right shit at you to make it amazing again.
The story of demons souls isn't related to dark souls, and dark souls 2 isn't really related to dark souls, but there are repeating themes and questionable lore.
Don't worry, you'd be just as confused playing demons souls. But you'd also be playing an inferior game.
You can start on any of the Souls games + Bloodborne except 2, because it's a sequel.
Did you consume the humanity, or does the little gauge next your HP bar still say "00"?
Becoming human allows you to summon others for help by interacting with their summon sign. However, it also opens you up to invasions.
Hey /v/ I just started the game a couple of days ago, last thing I did is beat Vicar Amelia. Tried to kill Paarl and got rekt. Tried to go to the dlc area and made it to the executioner but the hunters keep rekting me too.
Anyway can anyone explain to me how chalice dungeons work? Does it matter which headstone I use? And what does the type of chalice used do?
ive only consumed the humanity maybe twice, do i need to consume humanity before doing reverse hollow?
i have like 8 humanities and a few twin humanities
and now that you mentioned it what does the 00 mean? when im hollow its grayed out but when im human it lights up and also the counter goes up but im not really sure why or how
00 means you have no humanity on you, to lose.
01 means you have one on you.
the items give +1 to what is on you
if you have 01 you can use it to become human, OR you can use it to kindle a bonfire (but you need to be human)
if you die you lose the entire counter, you can get it back or lose it just like your souls
in other words save your humanity items for when you need them
also kill the merchant for a katana
>the first game isn't needed.
>2 improves on it too much.
CDs are optional content but the lowest levels give you great rewards (high damage gems, weapon variants). I suggest you finish the game first so you have an endgame character so you can start the CDs at NG+ because the ritual materials will be available at the insight shop. Don't worry the difficulty of the CDs don't scale with NGs and with this way you can breeze through the first levels with ease before entering the absolute hell that is depth 4 defiled.
>But you'd also be playing an inferior game.
Only Dark Souls babbies think this.
Dark Souls is objectively inferior to Demon's Souls. It's not a bad game. It's a nice alternative for people who refused to buy a PS3, but it's inferior to Demon's Souls.
And before you point your finger and call me a Sony fanboy like an idiot, no it doesn't have anything to do with the exclusivity and everything to do with how it pioneered the Souls games and was mechanically superior to Dark Souls in just about every aspect including being an all around faster game.
Bloodborne is the peak of the series because it takes the formula introduced in Demon's Souls and actually evolves it, whereas both Dark Souls games were rehashed Demon's Souls with worse mechanics and less atmosphere.
I can't stand it when Dark Souls babbies disrespect Demon's Souls because they started with Dark Souls or either just plain never played Demon's Souls.
Also Dark Souls 1 fans are the most cancerous out of the entire Souls fanbase. They shit on every game that isn't the first Dark Souls while completely disregarding that Dark Souls 1 in itself is inferior to all the others.
OP Either go back to the start with Demon's or just jump into bloodborne. The series literally gets better with every rendition, but only slightly so. The fags who want you to start at Dark Souls just want to believe that they aren't bandwaggoners.
I have over 500 hours played across these games. I started with Dark Souls and it was an amazing game, a beautiful experience. I played Dark Souls II on PS3 a ton, then the DLC. I've played through Bloodborne and the DLC once and it is also great. Now I'm playing through the PS4 version of Dark Souls II with friends.
You really can't go wrong. People calling Dark Souls II 'worst' are technically correct, but it's still a great game. That there are people who say they didn't play it because of things like soul memory is laughable and sad. They are the special kind of shit-spouting children 4chan is legendary for. If they tell you you can skip Dark Souls II, disregard their opinion immediately as they are just butthurt and want you to be like them. Have fun!
so i do have to consume the humanity in order for the counter to go up? because i have 8 humanity but the counter is at 0
thanks for the tip on the merchant. you're talking about the one early on in undeadburg, right?
>so i do have to consume the humanity in order for the counter to go up?
Yes, but there's no reason to sit on large sums of humanity unless you already have a lot and are familiar enough with the game to not die and lose it all.
For now you're better off just keeping them in the form of an item and using those when you need humanity.
>never played Tenchu
Still their best game.