Hope

who is this semon demon?

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>realistic
Kids are shit, nobody like them. I hated the Snow shit, if he just got over it he would probably be one of my favorite characters. He knows what he's doing is wrong and stupid, but he keeps doing it anyway and enjoys it. He would be a better villain.
Damn cute, though.

>>323618005
>>323618241
Honestly I just shit on the game cause I can.

I will give the 3 games a proper playthrough one day though.

>>323618005
who cares? 13 is shit anyways

>>323618005
Because they dropped the game before finishing it, or never played it at all.

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I'll just post a little more of best girl.

>>323618737

>Get over the fact that someone is responsible for your mother dying

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>>323619320
He wasn't though. If anything Hope was more responsible than Snow.
That's where I wanted him to go, realizing he should have done something to protect her and trying to get stronger so more people don't have to die. I guess that's kind of Snows thing, but he sucked so whatever.

>Is just Ken

>>323619320
>get over the fact that Snow didn't throw her off the fucking bridge
>get over the fact that Snow not only let go of her, but he also fell
Snow did what he could.

>>323619320
>Get over the fact that he tried to save your mother when soldiers were about to gun her down

Snow didn't kill that whiny bitch's mother, he just failed to save her.

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FFXV would be better if Prompto were a shota

>>323618005
I didn't even hate Hope. Hope/Lightning/Fang was obviously the best party.

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>>323619602
FFXV would be the best game ever if it was a bunch of homoerotic shota driving around catcalling girls and killing monsters.

>>323619602
>emo protagonist with black hair
>blonde shota
>aRPG
Tales of Berseria awaits, my friend.

>>323619790
tfw we will never have this

>>323619696

That's not Sazh/Fang/Vanille

SYN/SAB/SAB > Relentless Assault

>>323618005
I don't hate Hope. I liked his development. Too bad the game is shit.

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>>323619869
I don't mind the young adult angle. They're still cute. I hope it has a bro out button like in Army of Two.

>>323618005

Helps when you get a pink haired, older waifu.

>>323619968

XIII wasn't that bad, but it could have been better. The sequels improve upon it.
XIII-2 does a few things better, but it's problem is that it's much easier due to lack of level capping that was in the first game.
Lightning Returns is superior to both games through and through, and I want to do another playthrough soon.

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>>323619868
how was Tales of Z? there's these cuties but i really know nothing about the game other than that, waiting on a pricedrop.

>>323618005
>buy FF13 for PC
>unplayable FPS

I've played Lightning Returns on the PS4. Is it worth trying 13 out?

>>323618005
I think that deep inside he thinks he is responsible for his mother's death, but accepting so would have cause him to reject all hope and eventually turn c'ieth. His anger was the only thing keeping him going. The deeper part is that he also blames his dad. When he decided to go on vacation with his mother without his father there, he sort of unconsciously stepped into the role of a father, i.e. to protect. Because he was not able to do so, he kind of shifts the blame towards his father, because he assumed that had his father been there, his father would've been able to save them, which he very well might have, seeing as how he was a fairly well off politician. That's why he was so angry at his father. Hope himself is a fairly deep character, as was most of the cast. It's good to take a thread to dissect his character and really appreciate his role.

I just want my /ss/, brah

>Moms are tough.

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>>323620589
>unplayable FPS
Stop trying to play on a Chromebook. I've got a fucking memecard and it runs fine.
I'd recommend watching a let's play while reading the wiki.

>>323618005

Cute girl! What's her name?

>>323620472
It was good. I can't comment on how good of a Tales of game it was since I only played Vesperia prior, but the game by itself wasn't too bad. I'd say a price drop is a good thing to wait for, though, since opinions are pretty divided.

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Consider the following

>>323620472
I hated the gameplay after a while but the characters and story were good. The clusterfuck with the princess and assassin whose names I can't remember was bullshit but I was playing for the cute boys anyway so I didn't care too much.

>>323618005
yea he had a great developent over the series. I used to hate him but after 13-2 he was total bro

>>323618005
>Over time he develops into one of the most well rounded characters in the group

God, you're such a massive fagot.

Hope is as forgettable as everyone else in each of the 3 shitty games.

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>>323621820

>Lightning Returns
>shitty

You probably didn't play it.

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>>323621472
>but I was playing for the cute boys anyway

Uhhh but anon that's fucking gay

>>323622075
Just how gay does it get?

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>>323622075
There a problem with that?

>>323622583
source?

>>323618005
He's a fucking pussy in a piece of shit hallway simulator. Go make a reddit thread about this stupid shit, faggot.

>>323621996
>any other game in the series

You probably didn't play them. Nigger.

>>323622075
Please tell me the person on the right is a girl.

>>323622583
Yes. Wrong board faggot, go back to your shithole.

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>>323622751
thatpervert dot com slash post/2135847
Not hard to reverse search.

>>323623124

You probably haven't graduated from high school. Underaged.

>>323623460
it's not hard, i know. i reverse google'd it and i got a bunch of tumblrs instead. regardless, i appreciate you spoonfeeding.

thanks.

>>323623249

Of course he's a girl, anon. 100%.

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Hope x Snow is best FF couple, and it's especially hot when Hope tops Snow.

>>323619320

His own mother was responsible for her own fucking actions.

Hope's mother was a complete fucking moron. Snow's only mistake was accepting her help in which he was already reluctant.

>>323623869
>victim blaming
Barthandelus was responsible, anon

>>323618737
>Kids are shit

I hate when kids are shoehorned into movies. Like why the fuck is this kid tagging along? Why don't they drop him off at the nearest day care. Is it really a great idea to bring him into these fights against the government?

>>323621472

boys can't be cute, definitively

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>>323618005
Maybe I don't remember but, aside from the obvious L'cie branding, isn't his story done by the time you get to Gran Pulse? Lightning already taught him to be a man, he resolves his issue with Snow, and he already met with his dad.
Everyone else still has muh Serah and muh Dahj to worry about except Hope.

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>>323624634
In XIII he gets super magic, and Lightning is going through a shit trip cause her sister died so she wants to play mommy with the kid.
Yeah, most times it's awful.

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How could Hope stay mad at such a gorgeous hunk of beefcake?

>>323618005
He was the best character in FF13, which isn't saying much I know, but at least he was relate-able.

>gotta kill this guy because of muh revenge
Okay that makes sense.

>everyone else
CIE'TH L'CIE FAL'CIE FOCUS CIE'TH SISTER FOCUS FAL'CIE

Once he got over his misplaced anger at Snow he was honestly less interesting than everyone else though.

Also Hope had based voice acting.

>>323625065

Snow totally wanted to ride that horse all night long
he's just tsundere

>>323624765

>Serah's face

Why is she always so ugly in CGI? It's like they went out of their way to make sure Lightning was the more attractive sister.

>>323625065
He'd look a lot better if he had shorter hair.

>>323625065
His beard looks like shit and his stupid fucking bandana. If he didn't have that one tuft of hair he would be the second best design in the game, but that tuft just ruins it.

>>323625242
>It's like they went out of their way to make sure Lightning was the more attractive sister
Ding ding ding!

>>323621996

>defending shit games

For what purpose, nerd? Lightning isnt real. Shes not going to suck your dick for white knighting a pos.

>>323625457
Toriyama might.

>>323618005
He sucks early game but by the end he was better than the rest.

>>323625219
>>323624765

Yeah, when I got to Gran Pulse I realized that I didn't really care about any of the rest of the story, because I realized Hope's thing was my main hook, somehow.

Gran Pulse was so fucking weird, like a plateau of storytelling.

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>>323625365
Which of Snow's designs do you think was best?

>>323619476
That's one sexy bastard. Did he get into Lightning's panties? Definitely should have tried if not. Even better that she knew him since childhood.

>>323619476
>FF13
>Snow realizes that he's being foolish and he should stop playing hero

>FF13-2
>Snow gets a huge ego trip and tries playing hero

>FF13-LR
>Snow becomes emo because he never amounted to anything

Was Snow literally retarded or something? He keeps making the same mistake over and over.

Objective Party Composition Ranking
>Lightning/Hope/Fang
>Lightning/Vanille/Fang
>Lightning/Sazh/Vanille
>Every other combination of Light, Hope, Vanille, Fang, and/or Sazh
>Shit
>Anything with Snow

>>323625828
Middle>left>right.

>>323625962
>Was Snow literally retarded
You played the game right? That's like the first thing that popped into my head. He flew his fiance through a firework show and was surprised he got hit.

>>323625828
Does any SFM of Hope exist?

>>323625828
He looks like a hobo in all of them, who probably only lifts to keep his fuccboi status.
left>right>middle which slightly resembles a pine tree head

>>323625962
>>Snow realizes that he's being foolish and he should stop playing hero
It's been a while since i played 13 but when does this happen? Snow is the only character who didn't change at all the entire game

>Was Snow literally retarded
Yes. This is the only constant in the Fabula Nova Crystallis saga

Is the FFXIII trilogy any good?

>>323626474
No.

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>>323626474
Not unless you're NEET enough to through away 180 hours on Auto-Battle.

>>323626474
Not the greatest story ever told.
Not the greatest gameplay ever made.
Often regarded as one of the worst in the series, but there are people who enjoy it which leads to believe it could be good to you.
Short answer: no, don't gamble with maybe's unless you have the extra disposable time

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The lack of love for Gadot makes me sad.

>>323626270
He stopped as soon as Hope's mom died. He really made it obvious when he talked with Hope, and then traces of it lingered when he was Lightning on Pulse.

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hope a cute!

a cute!

Realistic doesn't mean likable. He's an annoying piece of shit like every other character except the black dude and his qt chocobo

>>323627102
Oh is he one of those guys that had a lot of effort put into their designs and then had less screen time than jihl nabaat?

>>323618005
I thought the development was kinda nice in XIII until it started repeating itself halfway through the game ( Ark / Gran Pulse and later ) and he started crying and bitching again for no reason, also the thing about his dad was weak as fuck

Then in XIII-2 it's purely time travel bullshit and he elects to build a new fucking cocoon for no fucking reason, like what's the practical point of that when you could just build on the surface much more easily (which I guess happens in LR)

Then in LR again it's not even hope until the end of the game and it's mythical bullshit

Basically if you haven't gotten it by now, maybe half of FF XIII is decent but then it descents into pure bullshit territory with it's ending and the other 2 games on this so called "epic" triology only push the bullshit train even further

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>>323627306
Yeah, unfortunately, he's one of Snow's team members.

>>323626716
She's hot

>>323627376
Dude how can you play three story heave games and yet get absolutely nothing about the goddamn story? Almost everything in your post is wrong, so much that it would take a wall of text to correct it all.

You did that on purpose didn't you?

Why did they age Hope up?

>>323627238

BOYS

CANT

BE

CUTE!!!

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>>323627824
Is that a challenge?

>>323627804
>Almost everything in your post is wrong
Not him, but what he said about XIII-2 and LR is right. Not sure about XIII because I honestly can't be fucked to remember very much about it's plot.

>>323627285
All you have to do is play through motherfucking cocoon and BAM he develops as soon as he meets his dad and BAM, even more when he gets his eidolon.

He grows a huge as fuck backbone as a fucking kid, and grows into a competent leader that becomes the president of the motherfucking human race in X-2 and then was on his way to do it again in X-3 before god himself seized his body as his own vessel because Hope was amazing like that.

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>>323623249

>>323627804
Oh humour me, don't need to explain it all if you don't want, explain to me why they had to build a second cocon for instance and why that isn't fucking stupid

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>see this little girl/boy
>s/he's actually 600 years old

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>>323628294
>See little girl/boy
>It's just a little girl/boy
Best.

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>>323627991

No. Just accept it. Boys can't be cute.

>>323618005
He doesn't have a shit dad, he's just a shit son.

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>>323628580
I have plenty evidence to the contrary.

>>323628735
Oh Vaan, I love you so much.

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>>323628930
If someone doesn't, they are lying.

>>323628125
>guy comes back in time to tell you that the surface is inhospitable in a thousand years
>"lol let's build on the surface instead of a New Coccoon, complete with our very own man-made fal'cie."
So do people here just post shut about games they haven't played/don't understand?

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>>323628735

Holy fuck can you faggots stop flooding /v/ with gayshit for two fucking seconds?

>>323628125
You're him do not lie, they never built cocoon on LR what were you talking about? And humans are too weak to live in Gran Pulse, don't forget that they all fucking die out in Noel's timeline because of the old cocoon falling down and constant monster attacks.

I'm not gonna start an argument with you, but the part of Hope not being really Hope was also wrong, Bhunivelze made a perfect clone of Hope, down to his personality and motivations, it was essentially Hope himself.

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>>323629086
>So do people here just post shut about games they haven't played/don't understand?

despite being garbage, he's the only one to get character development in 13 so I guess that puts him above the rest?

>>323620442
XIII-2 is actually worse than XIII in a lot of ways.

>>323624634
he's 18

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>>323629152
One... Two...
I need to go to bed in a little bit.

>>323629152
Oh god, haven't seen that pic before, he's so hot. I want to feel those pecs while milking him with my pussy.

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>>323629086
Eh, fair enough.

>>323629153
>You're him do not lie

>>323618005
Don't forget he became Science King of humanity and made a planet using science and time travel. Truly the best character out of the FXIII team.

Also got to /ss/ with Lightning, really the kid won at life.

>>323628253
Not him but the old cocoon was going to fall down and kill pretty much everyone, there was no way to prevent it so they had to fly up.

Plus people needed to be safe from monsters since not everyone is like the player who can brush monsters aside like they are nothing.

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Damn it /v/ stop being gay

>>323625921
The novels hint that he gets into Lightning's panties, and really after 1000 years I hope it was worth it.

>>323629332

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=39967687

>>323626716
she got a bit lazy with the skirt/skorts.

>>323629590
That picture is one of the best Hope and tentacle pictures ever. My only complaint is that there isn't a tentacle around his torso.

>>323627809
Dude time travel lol.

>>323629695
>she

>>323628735
That's not really "cute" so much as pretty.

>>323629231
I think XIII-2 was more refined in combat and didn't waste a huge chunk of the game on tutorials. I didn't like the monster component, would've preferred a third party member. The story was worse but Serah and Noel are better protagonists and Caius and Yeul are better secondary characters than those in XIII. The maps, exploration, and noncombat gameplay aspects were vastly superior compared to XIII

>>323628253
Whenever I go through all the trouble of explaining everything about the plot and showing that the "plot holes" didn't exist after all, the other party will usually go.

>Who cares LOL the game is shit anyway fuck the story

And then the feeling that I wasted my time for fucking nothing settles in and I feel like shit.

>>323625065
Hope was aiming for the Lightning route.

>>323630032
>I think XIII-2 was more refined in combat
Then you're probably a casual who didn't notice that a vast majority of the skills from XIII were missing (not that XIII is a particularly hardcore game)

It also looked worse, (which is understandable) had less actual areas, reused a lot of its' own assets (again, understandable), and had those shitty puzzles.

And the levels felt empty since there were random encounters for some reason rather than having the monsters on the field.

>>323629153
First of all that guy wasn't me, second of all you do realize I said they built a cocoon in XIII-2 right? I'm starting to think you haven't played the other games

Also the cocoon isn't that big but let's assume it destroys the entire surface, wouldn't building underground be an option then? Or whatever the fuck else that isn't a giant floating thing? Considering all the tech they have there are a million different options to avert a calamity, or hey here's an idea why not go bakc and try to reinforce the original cocoon's pilalr or destroy it by parts so if the fall would destroy everything now it doesn't, but obviously no one thinks of that huh, also the world design in that game is shit considering you go like 500 years into the future and everyone looks relatively the same, wtf were these people doing all this time?

Also I don't get this shit about people being too weak for monsters, again just look at all the tech and shit they had in FF XIII and consider the myriad of possibilities they have to solve those issues

Finally Bhunivelze can't see into human hearts so no matter what his clones are faulty, I know there's the thing with the Serah clone but that's "you just gotta believe" bullshit anyways, the whole game was like that, any rules that were stablished and then broken in XIII and XIII-2 were compeltely fucking pumeled by LR, that game is complete and utter bullshit, I'll only give it that it has the best gameplay out of the 3 but that's not relevant to our discussion

>>323629487
This. He's the perfect shota. It's too bad god killed him and hijacked his body before Lightning Returns, but at least he and Lightning are presumably reunited afterwards.

>>323630054
There were plenty of legitimate plotholes throughout the XIII trilogy.

Obviously because the second one involved time travel

If you claim you can explain away all of those, you're just full of shit.

>>323630032
>clunky crystarium
>limited synth abilities
>severely nerfed character attacks
>improvement
Bruh, the only thing it did better was add the single/wide attacks to commandos. People have this idea that "linear=bad" so they instantly think 13-2 was better when it was a step down in every way except for the main villain.

>>323627809
To set him up with Lightning, and to sell the time travel aspect, since Hope was a kid, making him suddenly grow up in the next area was a no brainer.

>>323630397
What plot holes?

>openly obsessed with boys and men and not just traps

/v/ got a lot gayer over the years

>>323630417
And the Serah tits.

But holy fuck did XIII-2 have too much paid dlc fuck that.

>>323618005
that stupid fucking hair, that stupid fucking name, that stupid fucking everything, geez what a faggot.

>>323618739
Don't play LR. I absolutely loved XIII-1 and 2, but LR is garbage.

>>323630763
I love how you people think there's different levels of gayness depending on how much of a girl a guy resembles. Protip: if you're a guy who likes penis, you're gay. Not partially gay, not mostly gay, you're gay.

>>323618005
He is pretty much a completely different character in each game he appears in.

Also he is a whiny bitch the first half of the first game and the scene where he gets his summon is the second worst in the whole game, the worst one being the scene where Vanille gets her summon.